| ochosi | hi everyone | 08:45 |
|---|---|---|
| micahg | hi ochosi | 08:46 |
| ochosi | micahg: do you have an opinion on theming? | 08:47 |
| micahg | ochosi: usually not unless it's atrocious | 08:48 |
| ochosi | ok :) | 08:48 |
| ochosi | well, i'm considering to give the menus a dark background | 08:48 |
| ochosi | but keep a bright menubar | 08:48 |
| micahg | that sounds like it'll contrast poorly | 08:48 |
| ochosi | dunno whether you've tested/seen greybird so far | 08:48 |
| micahg | ochosi: upgrading to natty now | 08:49 |
| ochosi | how do you mean it'll contrast poorly? | 08:49 |
| micahg | dark vs light | 08:49 |
| ochosi | yeah, but the font-color will be bright | 08:49 |
| micahg | oh, well, actually looking at the theme in maverick, it's dark and light, so I guess it wouldn't be that bad | 08:49 |
| micahg | you have a sample to lookat? | 08:49 |
| ochosi | well, it would be something like this: http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/TXKh77ChufI/AAAAAAAADTg/sEwh7Wpy9Go/elementary-gtk-theme-2.1.png | 08:50 |
| ochosi | but the menus/panels not as dark as here | 08:50 |
| * micahg fires up midori ;) | 08:50 | |
| ochosi | i just realised that the dark panel-bg kind of makes you wish for dark indicator menus | 08:50 |
| ochosi | i achieved that yesterday and made them dark, then i realised that the app-menu should probably also be dark for consistency | 08:51 |
| ochosi | and since i'm not sure it's possible to theme that independently of other menus i think it's either all or nothing | 08:51 |
| micahg | hmm, looks monochrome | 08:51 |
| micahg | except for the highlight | 08:52 |
| ochosi | well, the shot isn't really representative as there aren't even icons in the menus (xubuntu has those activated) | 08:52 |
| ochosi | i mean there are two options imo, either make the menus brighter than atm or darker | 08:53 |
| ochosi | (both would mean better contrast/readability i think) | 08:53 |
| ochosi | micahg: hm, so what do you think, is it worth a try? | 08:57 |
| ochosi | (it's not like we can't change it back later) | 08:57 |
| micahg | ochosi: idk, might be worth asking others, seems ok to me, but style isn't my strong point | 08:58 |
| ochosi | right | 08:58 |
| ochosi | yeah, i'll maybe give it a shot so i can at least present screenshots | 08:58 |
| ochosi | otherwise people won't really know what it looks like | 08:58 |
| ochosi | micahg: you still around? | 09:55 |
| micahg | ochosi: yep | 09:55 |
| ochosi | if you're still interested in a screenshot i can now provide one | 09:55 |
| ochosi | micahg: http://imagebin.org/141414 | 09:57 |
| micahg | ochosi: crashes midori :P, will check in firefox after reboot | 09:59 |
| ochosi | micahg: right :) | 09:59 |
| micahg | brb, hopefully :) | 09:59 |
| micahg | ochosi: any idea where the network manager went? | 10:22 |
| ochosi | micahg: what do you mean? | 11:19 |
| ochosi | micahg: is it not in the panel? | 11:19 |
| ochosi | micahg: (if xfce4-indicator is in the panel, nm-applet should be displayed as an indicator, otherwise it should be in the systray) | 11:20 |
| micahg | no, it's not | 11:20 |
| ochosi | are you using the default panel layout? | 11:20 |
| * micahg has no idea, my panel settings were lost on upgrade | 11:21 | |
| * micahg does not like some of the new panel applets | 11:22 | |
| ochosi | right, does it look like this: http://wiki.knome.fi/_detail/shimmer:panel_it4.png?id=xubuntu%3Anatty_panel | 11:22 |
| micahg | I don't have the wireless | 11:22 |
| micahg | or the name thingy | 11:23 |
| ochosi | micahg: and the rest is there? (the lower panel is on autohide by default) | 11:31 |
| ochosi | check in the panel preferences whether the systray and the indicator plugin are there, if not, add them | 11:31 |
| * micahg doesn't see a systray option | 11:36 | |
| micahg | but all the other old icons are there | 11:36 |
| ochosi | no, i mean check in the panel preferences (there's an item-list) whether the indicator plugin is there and if not add it and restart the panel | 11:37 |
| micahg | indicator-plugin is there, but I don't have the network indicator, I just want nm-applet | 11:38 |
| ochosi | nm-applet can be either displayed as indicator or as systray-icon | 11:39 |
| ochosi | that depends on what you have in your panel | 11:39 |
| micahg | ugh, I have both | 11:39 |
| ochosi | if indicator-plugin is there, nm-applet will behave like an indicator | 11:39 |
| ochosi | if both are there, it's also an indicator | 11:39 |
| micahg | ok, so indicators were messed up, removed indicator plugin and got my session menu back | 11:41 |
| ochosi | right | 11:42 |
| * micahg gives up on nm-applet until monday | 11:47 | |
| ochosi | right | 11:49 |
| ochosi | well, dunno, for me it works either way | 11:49 |
| * micahg will just blame cyphermox :) | 11:49 | |
| ochosi | is that an indicator-dev? | 11:50 |
| micahg | no, he's the network manager dev | 11:50 |
| ochosi | right :) | 11:50 |
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