=== m_conley is now known as m_conley_away === kklimonda1 is now known as kklimonda === Pici` is now known as Pici === Omega is now known as troletariat === troletariat is now known as Omega === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero [06:57] morning [08:05] morning folks [08:06] Howdie MacSlow [08:06] hey RAOF [08:07] * RAOF wonders how long gltext has had a per-frame memory leak without anyone noticing. [08:09] Have a good weekend, MacSlow ? [08:11] good morning [08:23] RAOF: I did notice the leak but didn't know the culprit :) [08:24] Well, rejoice! For I'm pretty sure I've just fixed it :) [08:25] RAOF: nice! [08:26] Turns out that if you calloc a vertex, normal, and texture array once per frame you should also be freeing it :) [08:31] RAOF: hehe, no wonder my laptop with 4 GB of ram was on it nees after few hours :) [08:32] A few hours? I think it was leaking ~20MB/sec on mine :) [08:33] never measured it [08:37] kamstrup: hey, please do not set design tasks as invalid as the workflow set all unity tasks as invalid as well: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-place-applications/+bug/726711 [08:37] didrocks: doh, sorry :-) just fixreleased then? [08:37] kamstrup: for the design tasks? as you wish, New/Fix committed/Fix Released :) [08:37] what makes the most sense [08:38] all invalid/won't fix/opinion in the design task have an impact on the other tasks :) [08:39] (also first time you fix committed/fix released a design tasks and you still have your unity bugs in incomplete -> they become triaged) [08:40] didrocks: ah, right, always remember, never forget, always remember, never forget [08:40] kamstrup: :) === API is now known as Guest5456 [08:43] argh, njpatel did the same :/ [08:43] hum… maybe we should just ignore the "invalid" state in ayatana-design === Guest5456 is now known as apinheiro [08:49] kamstrup: invalid status in ayatana-design not synced anymore, have fun :) [09:02] didrocks: thanks man === klattimer1 is now known as klattimer [09:38] Hi, I have been unable to compile unity with utouch. Is it safe to remove the source for them to compile? [09:38] As it seems they are only for multitouch [09:51] njpatel, didrocks: why has bug #706247 become invalid? [09:51] Launchpad bug 706247 in unity-2d "[dash] Search in dash provokes a crash of the applications place daemon" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/706247 [09:51] (trying to understand if it should be marked invalid in unity-2d too) [09:53] oSoMoN: njpatel changed to invalid, the rest is my script doing its sync work (or not in that case :)) [09:54] didrocks: ah ok, I was puzzled by your last comments :) [09:54] oSoMoN: it's related to our bug sync process :) [09:55] njpatel: was the crash in the applications place daemon fixed, or does it just cope well with the crash and relaunches the daemon when requested? [10:24] oSoMoN, copes well with the crash [10:25] njpatel: ok, thanks, let’s see how well unity-2d copes with the same situation… [10:26] uh, not so well [10:50] hello! [10:51] can i ask here why i have some problems in compiling unity on natty? === andrea_ is now known as AndreaAzzarone [10:59] hi [10:59] can someone help me? [11:23] Hi! this open team https://launchpad.net/~unity-bugs seems to give access to anyone to change unity bug importance, dont't its intended? [11:26] it's opened? [11:26] om26er: please tell that to oubiwann when he's there [11:27] sure === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:11] morning didrocks [13:12] ronoc: you got a new mp from trevino over the weekend if I am guessing right? [13:16] ronoc: nevermind I saw you merged it, thanks! [13:19] hey jcastro [13:19] howdy [13:20] didrocks: there are some pending review branches, whom do I poke? [13:21] jcastro: some are related to keybinding, MacSlow should be on it [13:21] jcastro: I think there is one I'll take [13:21] cool [13:21] already poked people btw :p [13:21] oh awesome, thanks! [13:22] didrocks: do sometimes reviews show up as something on +activereviews for you but then when you click on them they show a different state on the mp page itself? [13:22] didrocks, atm I'm on different bugs... what in particular? [13:23] jcastro: oh never noticed that [13:23] MacSlow: there is a one line for keynav [13:23] like with s/final index/final index -1 [13:46] hi! [13:46] someone can help me? [13:47] hi arlecchino92, what do you need? [13:47] hi jcastro [13:47] i have builded unity from sources [13:48] but the application places [13:48] and the file places [13:48] doesn't work [13:48] why? [13:49] hmm not sure [13:49] how long has it been broken? [13:49] njpatel: around? [13:49] when i compile from sources it never works [13:50] hmm, maybe a step is missing [13:50] what instructions are you following it to build it? [13:50] http://askubuntu.com/questions/28470/how-do-i-build-unity-from-source/28472#28472 [13:51] hmm, those are up to date [13:51] hang tight, maybe njpatel can help [13:52] arlecchino92: thanks for submitting unity fixes so far! [13:53] arlecchino92, copy /usr/share/unity/places/* to $prefix_you_installed_unity/share/unity/places/* [13:53] and restart unity [13:53] jcastro, please add that to the instructions, sorry I missed it ^ [13:54] jcastro thanks you [13:54] njpatel, thanks === robtaylo1 is now known as robtaylor [13:55] what about this: https://code.launchpad.net/~arlecchino92/unity/fix-715711/+merge/52344 [13:55] ? [13:55] we just repinged people to start reviewing branches now [13:55] someone should get to it soon [13:56] arlecchino92, did you forget to bzr add DevicesSettings? [13:56] i have done: bzr add DevicesSettings.cpp [13:57] and bzr add DevicesSettings.h [13:57] weird, it's not in the diff, right? [13:57] how can i resolve? [13:58] arlecchino92, just run `bzr add src/DevicesSettings.*" [13:58] and see what bzr says [13:58] also, make sure you remembered to bzr commit and bzr push [14:01] ok njpatel [14:01] now it is uploading [14:04] njpatel thanks a lot :) [14:05] arlecchino92: hey so where in the instructions can I put that? [14:06] jcastro: i don't understand the last sentence. I am not english sorry! [14:06] it's ok I'll sort it [14:09] jcastro, yup all good, saw the post on omg, lovely! [14:09] :D [14:17] I have prepared an mp, which fixes bug 730638 (built and tested), anybody willing to take a look? [14:17] Launchpad bug 730638 in Unity "No feedback when unmounting busy device in Unity" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730638 [14:31] jcastro: maybe "sudo cp /usr/share/unity/places/* /opt/unity/share/unity/places/" [14:31] and not [14:31] cp /usr/share/unity/places/* /opt/unity/share/unity/places/ [14:31] right? [14:31] ah, yep [14:37] is ubuntu unity a joke? i installed ubuntu netbook edition 10.10 and the performance is just poor.. how can this be published as a stable release? [14:37] or is there some trick to improve the performance of unity? [14:41] pirast, well in unity 11.04 compiz will take the place of mutter which is most likely on your 10.10 installation [14:41] pirast, mutter is a hog last time I tried it so performance is bad [14:41] coz_ isn't there any way to make 10.10 usable for me? [14:42] pirast, not sure,, I have never used the 10.10 netbook edition [14:42] coz_ cause i actually dont want to use beta software on my netbook [14:42] pirast, understood [14:42] pirast, well...11.04 will be out near the end of April of this year [14:43] pirast, if you want to talk about or just listen in on what is happening with it go to #ubuntu+1 channel [14:46] jcastro e njpatel: now worsk fine!! :) [14:46] *works [14:47] woo hoo! [14:53] sweet [14:54] hello everyone! using 'bzr pull' for nux and unity returns a "not a branch" error, but i can 'bzr branch lp:nux/lp:unity' without a problem - what's wrong? [15:20] hello all [15:20] hey pitti! [15:20] Hey! [15:20] tedg: design team asked us to add a link to gnome-control-center to the session menu; can I do this in g-c-c itself via installing/changing .desktop files, or is that only hardcoded? [15:21] pitti, What do you mean? Where does the link go? [15:22] tedg: it should launch /usr/bin/gnome-control-center [15:22] and be called dgettext("gnome-control-center-2.0", "Control Center") [15:23] tedg: I tried adding a shortcut group to /usr/share/applications/gnomecc.desktop, but that doesn't work [15:23] pitti, I mean, where in the menu should it go? [15:24] pitti, Yeah, session menu isn't very intelligent. Most of the work that was supposed to go on in it this cycle got bumped :-( [15:24] see bug 727823 [15:24] Launchpad bug 727823 in gnome-menus (Ubuntu Natty) "Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add "System Settings" link to the session indicator menu" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727823 [15:24] tedg: John says "to the end, after a separator" [15:24] so before the logout? [15:24] he says after [15:24] pitti, i can do that if you like [15:24] pitti, Ah, okay. That can actually be done with a desktop file :) [15:25] Though, it is a bit of an odd place to put it. [15:25] hey ayatana, what's the status on this? https://answers.launchpad.net/unity/+question/147623 I too have this question, workspace handling in unity is a total mess right now [15:26] tedg, oh, so it isn't all hard coded like indicator-me? [15:26] cool :) [15:29] tedg: is there an existing example for this? [15:29] pitti, Ubuntu Light ;) [15:29] pitti, Just a sec, let me find the name. [15:32] pitti, The desktop file: /usr/share/applications/indicator-session-extra.desktop will be tacked on the end of the session menu. [15:32] pitti, Probably not ideal for what you want, but it'll work. [15:35] tedg: ah, is that somewhere in bzr or on the web? [15:36] pitti, In bazaar [15:37] pitti, I'd like to make the feature more complete instead of being a "one magic desktop file" but haven't had time. So I didn't want to advertise too much :) [15:38] tedg, did you see my IM about bug 725603 [15:38] Launchpad bug 725603 in libdbusmenu (Ubuntu) "cannot change IM status from the MeMenu" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/725603 [15:38] tedg, it wouldn't be monday morning if i didn't have something to harass you about [15:39] tedg, i would be pretty surprised if indicator-me was the only thing affected [15:39] kenvandine, I did, but I dont' think you replied which branch so the revision number isn't that useful. I see the comments is in the bug so I can find that :) [15:40] tedg, fresh checkout of trunk with bzr log -n2 [15:40] hello [15:40] although there is a branch nick in the comment i made [15:40] branch nick: proxy-test-fix [15:40] hello mainerror [15:40] tedg: sorry for my ignorance, but searching for "ubuntu light" doesn't reveal anything in Launchpad [15:41] pitti, tedg: it seems like you should use that trick but let it available for whoever needed it and just add the .desktop to the session indicator source [15:41] pitti, Oh, I thought you did that work with OEM? That's the respin for quick start. Not sure if it still exists. [15:42] is Jason in here? [15:42] DBO, ^ [15:42] yes [15:42] Unity should stop stealing focus, it gets in my way a lot. :< [15:42] yes I am [15:42] tedg: I was only involved for some days for boot speed improvements, but I didn't really get any special credentials for that [15:42] Omega, I am getting annoyed with that too [15:43] Everytime I tile I have to keep clicking on the window because if I move from the left to right unity steals focus. [15:43] Also, I love the tiling <3 [15:43] (except for the minor bugs) [15:43] oh hey there. Regarding this bitesize bug, the expo hide/unhide, you didn't mix that up right? [15:44] mainerror, no [15:44] that means the launcher should be visible in expo mode and disregard windows which may trigger autohide? [15:44] mainerror, the launcher should be out when expo is active [15:44] Oh no, I just crashed compiz. [15:44] ok cool [15:45] * mainerror reboots into Natty === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [15:45] pitti, Ah, I don't know if it exists somewhere in LP or not. I'm just saying you'd know more about where to find it than I would ;) [15:46] tedg, maybe you have an example elsewhere? [15:46] tedg: ah, just looking at the code now; so it's just that one .desktop file, not a dir? [15:47] Alright, I've got a consistent way of crashing compiz, let me report it. [15:47] i. e. if we own that for Ubuntu then, it's not going to work for OEM any more [15:47] kenvandine, Nope :) [15:47] tedg: so perhaps I should instead patch the code to add control-center; then I can also use dgettext, etc. [15:48] pitti, Yes, that is true. I'm not sure you'd want both though... [15:48] pitti, I'd rather we just patched it to use a directory of desktop files then, no? [15:48] tedg: sounds good [15:48] Where is the tiling code, I'd like to take a whack at it? [15:49] tedg: ok, I'll look into that and propose a branch then [15:51] seb128: I could just hardcode it in, but it doesn't seem much more difficult to add support for reading a directory? [15:52] pitti, right, out of the fact that we might not want to enable the indicator to turn in a stack of .desktop or allowing abuses to the items [15:53] well, I'll do whatever tedg likes more [15:53] pitti, handling a known .desktop is also different from handling random files users might put into the dir and might break your code [15:53] but i've no strong opinion either way, whatever is easier [15:54] pitti, In general, I prefer the directory approach. But I'm worried about placement in that I don't think you'd want all the entries tacted on the end. For instance, system settings at the bottom of that menu doesn't make sense. It makes more sense to be above logout. [15:54] 'lo jono. [15:55] hey Omega [15:55] I remember, I had something I wanted to show you! [15:55] Let me go find it. [15:55] tedg: mpt just added a comment as well; I guess I'll let the design guys fight this out first [15:57] pitti, Okay [15:59] pitti: tedg not that my opinion is of value, but I think system settings should stay in the Me Menu, right next to "About Me...". gnome-shell does this, and it makes sense: system settings is mainly about how my computer works, the way I want it to work, so it should stay on the personal scope: the me menu. [15:59] danyR_: that's what I originally assumed as well indeed [16:00] but then John said "session"; so I'm in "wait for design decision" mode now [16:03] pitti: right now the design is a bit different, but how Gnome-Sheel does it: http://www.waybeta.com/uploads/img/20100607/201006071026562642-0.png [16:04] danyR_: hm, that's a combined me/session menu, though [16:06] pitti: as I said, the visual changed a bit in the meantime: it's all in the same menu, but About Me.., User status and System Settings clearly appear stacked together [16:08] pitti, there has been another comment, appears they agree again and it should go in session menu [16:09] *nod* === seiflotfy__ is now known as seiflotfy [16:12] njpatel, hello! alt+? doesn't activate items in the appmenu. Is that a known issue that someone is working on, or is that bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-appmenu/+bug/663030 assigned to me? [16:13] pitti: danyR_: It doesn't fir the SessionMenu Rationale though https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SessionMenu [16:13] fit even [16:26] mterry, I thought you were working on it? :/ [16:26] I've raised it a few times [16:31] njpatel, that bug above got assigned to me, but it was a low-signal-to-noise ratio and I just now figured out what the bug was talking about. [16:31] njpatel, I'm fine with working on it, just didn't want to duplicate efforts. Sounds like I won't be [16:31] MacSlow, hi, did Notify OSD length-dependent durations ever get implemented? [16:31] mterry, awesome, thanks :) [16:32] mpt_, uff... ehm... I would have to look at the code... I can't recall atm [16:33] mpt_, but I'm still on unity-bugs and need to do code-reviews... so that would need to wait a bit [16:33] Hitting Super+A+A+A causes compiz to crash, I don't know if this is just compiz bug or if I should include unity too? [16:34] Omega, no crash here [16:34] But I'm using only 1 workspace [16:35] Nevermind, just crashed it [16:35] MacSlow, ok, no hurry [16:42] Omega: try with the incoming new release, if it's still there, can you report it via apport? [16:46] I just reported it via apport. [16:46] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/730721 [16:46] hmm, I got "invisible box" over the weekend but can't seem to reproduce [16:46] (before you said to wait) [16:48] there is no stacktrace, it won't be useful [16:48] someone with autohide mind confirming this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/726846 [16:49] didrocks: How do I get the stack trace? apport doesn't show up after the crash [16:50] lamalex: done [16:50] Omega: in that case you can ls -l /var/crash/*compiz* [16:50] thanks jcastro [16:50] you da man [16:50] Omega: check that the timestamp is correct (ie it's not an old crash) [16:50] lamalex: it should just be off [16:50] Omega: if it is, remove it [16:50] Omega: otherwise, apport-bug -c /var/crash/*compiz* [16:50] Omega: but again, wait for next release now (in a couple of hours) [16:50] lamalex: feel free to poke me for any multimonitor stuff [16:51] sure [16:51] thanks [16:53] didrocks: Heh, I keep missing you telling me to wait ): I added it, I'll wait and try again later though. [16:53] Omega: ok, thanks :) [16:53] Omega: in any case, it won't be retraced on time so will be invalid I'm afraid [16:54] Ah, that's fine, I don't mind doing it again. [17:08] jcastro, njpatel thanks for merging that 2 branches. can I reuse them for further fixes or do I have to create a separate branch for every bugfix out there? [17:08] new branch for each bug please [17:08] just go like "fix-for-123456" or whatever [17:09] woo lots of reviews today, we're really cooking [17:09] artfwo, new branch would be good [17:09] artfwo, thanks for the work :) [17:09] well, I was thinking, if launchpad does have enough space for so many branches :) [17:10] artfwo, that's sysadmin's problem :) === Darxus_ is now known as Darxus [17:11] it's real pity bubash.org is gone, I wish I could submit njpatel's last quote there :) [17:18] ha bubash :P [17:18] i miss the gnome do bubash plugin [17:18] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/713632 [17:18] that was my favorite 20 minute hack of a plugin [17:18] shouldn't this be fix committed? [17:18] jcastro, yes [17:19] fixe [17:19] d [17:19] :P [17:19] ah I found 2 like that [17:19] hey wait [17:20] that fix is from feb, it should be released [17:20] Super+W is currently the keyboard shortcut for two different actions, should I report it as a bug? [17:20] there is a bug reported already [17:20] Ah [17:20] I searched but didn't find it. [17:21] lamalex: ditto this one too right? [17:21] for what one [17:21] Omega: bug 723273 [17:21] Launchpad bug 723273 in unity (Ubuntu) "Super shortcuts for application place and worskspace swither conflicts with compiz keys" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723273 [17:21] Thanks. [17:21] lamalex: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/713642 [17:23] jcastro, it is already marked fix committed (unless you just did that) [17:23] which you did [17:23] I did [17:23] ok [17:23] I think jason is marking them fixed committed [17:23] and then forgetting to mark them released [17:23] since these are from like february [17:24] * jcastro just steals the karma [17:24] artfwo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/728598 [17:24] this one is free if you're looking for one to do! [17:25] jcastro, will look into that, thanks [17:37] jcastro: hey, do you happen to know any reason why we dont have the ubot5 announcing bug info here? (when bug link is pasted) [17:37] no idea [17:37] jcastro: right now, it only gives the info for bug# and not when we paste bug links, it seems we need to turn that on [17:37] oh [17:38] jcastro: is there isnt any reason we dont want it to? (tsimpson said he can turn it on if wanted..) [17:38] I forget, when you open a hyperlink from another application, does the browser pop up, or does it stay in the background? [17:38] s/isnt// [17:38] (not talking unity) [17:39] If I recall correctly, the browser foregrounds itself. [17:45] Hmm, it seems that the browser does not get focus, my bad! [17:52] Omega: browser(FF4) gets focus here.. [17:52] Hmm, mine doesn't. [17:52] Also fx4 [17:53] And it annoys me because there is no fast way to switch to it. [17:54] anyone have objections to turning on the bug info for bug links here? [17:54] My browser stays in the background, if it's already open [17:54] didrocks , lamalex ^ ? [17:54] huh? [17:54] anyone have objections to turning on the bug info for bug links here? [17:54] i dont know what that means [17:54] :D [17:55] so no :P [17:55] lamalex: right now, ubot5 only gives the info for bug# and not when we paste bug links [17:55] haha! [17:55] no no, that will be nice! [17:55] cool thx! i'll ask the op-s :) [18:02] Daekdroom: Ah, that may be why. [18:04] why was bug #711982 tagged as a dupe? [18:04] Launchpad bug 711982 in Unity "Launcher does not respect GTK theme (dup-of: 605475)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711982 [18:04] Launchpad bug 605475 in Unity "Launcher does not respond to changes in icon theme" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605475 [18:06] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/728598 [18:07] tsimpson: hmm, nope.. ^ [18:09] https:/launchpad.net/bugs/728598 [18:09] url-fail [18:09] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728598 [18:09] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728598/ [18:09] :< [18:10] So would firefox opening in the background when already opened and the foreground when not be a design bug? [18:11] @reload Bugtracker [18:11] The operation succeeded. [18:11] Omega: as i mentioned earlier, it works fine here, it comes to foreground, and as far i can remember it worked in FF3 too. it wouldnt be a design bug but mostly a bug in you settings or something.. [18:11] your* [18:12] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728598 [18:12] Omega: maybe a conflict or old cruft settings.. [18:12] vish: Daekdroom reports the same problem as me. [18:12] vish: Did you have firefox opened already? [18:12] Omega: try in a guest session. [18:12] Alright. [18:12] Omega: my Firefox is always open :D [18:12] Omega, are you using never-hide launcher? [18:13] Good lord, no developer has said a word about my bug report yet :( [18:13] Daekdroom: (not talking unity) [18:13] Oh. [18:13] vish: I asked what classic gnome did [18:13] I am using unity [18:13] I have dodge active window on [18:13] bug #729392 [18:13] Launchpad bug 729392 in unity (Ubuntu) "[unity] minimizing an application doesn't make it lose window focus" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/729392 [18:13] Omega: yup, and hence i mentioned it :) [18:14] Omega: thats how it works in classic, and last i tested Unity it worked that way, but now my natty is borked ;) [18:15] I will be trying it in a guest session now. [18:17] ubot5: reload Bugreacker [18:17] Error: There was no plugin Bugreacker. [18:17] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [18:18] ubot5: reload Bugtracker [18:18] Error: invalid syntax (plugin.py, line 415) [18:18] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [18:18] @reload Bugtracker [18:18] Error: There was no plugin Bugtracker. [18:18] I simply can't type today [18:18] @reload Bugtracker [18:18] Error: There was no plugin Bugtracker. [18:18] @load Bugtracker [18:18] The operation succeeded. [18:18] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728598/ [18:19] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/728598 [18:19] I don't get it, ubottu and ubot5 run the same code, yet ubottu works fine [18:20] kenvandine, Can you try this? lp:~ted/dbusmenu/i-love-the-ping-of-ken-in-the-morning === nhaines_ is now known as nhaines [18:21] OK, that wasn't very fruitful, my windows weren't decorated. [18:22] jcastro, any idea when the scrollbar patch is going to land? [18:22] jono: kenvandine just had the call today [18:22] kenvandine: ^ [18:23] Are undecorated windows a compiz or unity bug? [18:23] Everytime they aren't decorated in here, I can fix it by reloading compiz [18:24] But in my other session the windows are all decorated. [18:24] 2 sessions = 2 different users? [18:24] Daekdroom: Can you switch to a guest session for a minute and see if they are decorated? [18:24] Doesn't that mean they run 2 different compiz processes? [18:24] I'm not sure. [18:26] compiz --replace did not fix the problem. [18:26] Tried to start a guest session and all I can see is the wallpaper [18:26] try unity --reset [18:26] that's the big hammer [18:26] Well, if I only could open a terminal in there [18:26] or can I do it from my main session? [18:27] ctrl-alt-t should work [18:27] well, depends if that works, heh [18:28] Still no go, I'm reporting this. [18:28] jcastro, can it be changed if I want to? [18:28] my current shortcut to a terminal is Super-T [18:28] what, ctrl-alt-t? [18:28]