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yofeldownside of the wrapper script: I get a SIGFPE when I try to launch any app that is linked against stable KDE00:35
c2tarunI was installing project-neon, while installation its asking for package configuration, how can i know my package configuration?01:31
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ScottKapachelogger: Not sure.  You'll have to come up with something.06:02
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droidslayerHey everybody08:40
bambeemorning08:46
apacheloggerScottK: but how why when and generally zomg09:45
apacheloggerI could rewrite everything with supreme apachelogger logic :P09:45
bambeethe harald semantic :P09:48
bambeemhhh... it has been proved ? 09:48
bambee:D09:48
valoriein waltz time, or ..... Dropkick Murphys time?09:48
droidslayerOh oh10:15
droidslayerapachelogger: plz2make .e10:16
droidslayerEr10:16
droidslayerPlz to make me a quassel client for android10:16
droidslayerapachelogger: ^^10:16
apacheloggerSput: ^10:17
* apachelogger is too old for this10:17
apacheloggeralso I have to fix me a vpnc10:17
apacheloggerthis vpn connections application has like the most horrid code like evar10:17
Sputquasseldroid is at  https://github.com/sandsmark/QuasselDroid - for somewhat up2date builds and information how to use them see https://github.com/sandsmark/QuasselDroid/wiki/QuasselDroid-Wiki10:17
droidslayer:(10:17
Sputdroidslayer: ^^10:17
apacheloggerI have rarely seen such shitty engineered software10:17
Sput[x] done, next?10:17
apacheloggerit scales neither up nor down nor sideways10:18
droidslayerSput: It can connect directly to a core?10:18
Sputjip10:18
Sputhaven't tried it myself, but people seem to generally be happy10:18
apacheloggeradb install quasseldroid_b642294.apk 10:18
apacheloggerwin10:18
apacheloggerah10:18
apacheloggerright10:18
Sputnote that it's a very early development version and not finished yet in any way10:18
* apachelogger busted his routing tables10:18
Sputbut people seem to think it's usable already10:19
apacheloggerjust like quassel itself :P10:19
Sputapachelogger: yep.10:19
apacheloggerwhich: not found10:19
apacheloggerlike srsly10:19
apacheloggera) what madness must a hardware vendor be driven by to not have which symlink'd to busybox...10:20
apacheloggerb) why in the name of lord vader would one be using which in an app10:20
droidslayerOk its trying to fetch the log10:26
shadeslayeruh10:29
shadeslayerhmm10:29
shadeslayerSput: no backlog10:29
Sputdunno, that should work usually10:30
Sputthen again, it's under heavy development10:30
Sputbest to join #quassel and ask the people there :)10:30
Sputthere's quite a few users and the developers in there10:30
shadeslayer/join #quassel10:30
shadeslayerbah10:30
tazzshadeslayer, no10:31
shadeslayerit doesn't work10:31
apacheloggerSput: it is not done using qt?10:41
Sputapachelogger: no, it's a native client10:41
apacheloggerno wonder it is not working then :S10:42
Sputnew quasseldroid up now, shadeslayer10:51
apacheloggergood thing10:53
apacheloggeronly crashes here ^^10:54
apachelogger:O10:58
apacheloggerWTF10:58
apacheloggerthat vpnc thing uses ps over /proc10:58
apacheloggershadeslayer: I blieve android is made up out of madness10:59
sleepslayerQuite possible10:59
apacheloggerSput: I do believe quasseldroid has problems with the amount of apachelogger's channels :S11:01
* apachelogger pokes his kernel build a bit to hurry along11:01
apacheloggerslacker_nl: why are you sleeping again?11:02
apacheloggereh11:02
apacheloggerslacker_nl: sry11:02
apacheloggershadeslayer: you are swapping nicks like a wild man11:02
apacheloggeralso 11:02
* apachelogger forgot what he wanted to say11:02
apacheloggersomething about mobile stuff11:02
apacheloggerfun11:17
apacheloggerthe vpnc thing returns if it can read something on stderr11:17
apacheloggernow why there is output on stderr is unkown but it fails when it really should not fail as the startup was successful11:18
apacheloggersilly thing11:18
apacheloggershadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/576934/ what is wrong with this other than using a legacy language?11:19
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shadeslayerRiddell: hey ... you're at the hotel now? :D14:35
shadeslayerQuintasan: yofel my talk is on Friday 4.30 PM IST14:38
dpmhi apachelogger, a while ago we were discussing how quassel could use gettext for their translations, and in fact, if there would be a generic way for Qt-based projects to use gettext. We've now got exactly the same situation in unity-2d, which we've been discussing with agateau on bug 730499. I seem to remember you investigated this a bit back then. If you found out anything that could help, it'd be awesome if you could comment on the bug. Thanks!14:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 730499 in unity-2d "Translations: plural forms" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73049914:38
c2tarunshadeslayer: hi I am having some problems with project-neon, can you help?14:39
shadeslayersure14:39
bambeeshadeslayer: talks at conf.kde.in are recorded ?14:54
shadeslayernope14:55
shadeslayerbambee: i'll try to setup a webcast and such14:58
bambeelovely :)15:01
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ScottKal: See dpm's comment about.  Not sure if you might have any insight.16:39
ScottKabout/above16:39
alScottK, i'll have a look later today16:39
ScottKThanks.16:40
seaLnewe will be recording some of the conf.kde.in talks but won't be able to do them all17:14
shadeslayerseaLne: i'm thinking of starting a webcast17:15
shadeslayerbut that requires bandwidth17:15
seaLneand there won't be17:15
shadeslayer:(17:15
QuintasanRiddell: Do you remember which package apparently fixed the ssh-agent not working?17:34
Quintasanor ScottK: ^17:37
ScottKIt never didn't work for me, so no idea.17:37
Quintasan:/17:38
tazzshadeslayer, who will provide bandwidth for you ?17:38
tazzseaLne, how are you planning to record ?17:38
shadeslayertazz: college? :P17:38
QuintasanIt has to break every release then I don't know how to fix it and then after some time I reinstall my Kubuntu and it automagically works17:38
shadeslayerbut seeing how there won't be any17:38
tazzshadeslayer, not with 100 people on the wifi trying to just check the mail.17:39
shadeslayeryeah :(17:39
shadeslayertazz: along with my android phone sucking the bandwidth out of their interwebz17:39
Quintasanshadeslayer: Why does apachelogger hate android phones?17:39
shadeslayerQuintasan: it's only natural17:40
Quintasan>apachelogger, >natural17:40
Quintasandoes not compute17:40
shadeslayerQuintasan: or maybe this http://imgur.com/zzxCi17:40
shadeslayerwho knows what goes inside his dark dark brain17:41
ulyssesQuintasan: get a sonic screwdriver, it fixes everything17:42
* Quintasan has no monies17:42
QuintasanScottK: bug #68839317:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 688393 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu Natty) "Global "X11/Xsession" script is not sourced in "kdm/Xsession" script" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68839317:48
Quintasanand it is apparently fixed :O17:48
ScottKOK.17:48
shadeslayerbambee: no webcast for you17:52
shadeslayer:(17:52
bambeeshadeslayer: :'(17:52
shadeslayerthey have no bandwidth there :(17:52
QuintasanY U NO BANDWIDTH INDIA?17:53
bambeeshadeslayer: don't worry ;)17:53
shadeslayerQuintasan: yeah ... it sucks17:53
yofelother question: does gpg-agent work for anyone?18:03
yofelor rather pinentry18:03
shadeslayerit does on maverick18:06
shadeslayerit's broken again?18:06
ari-tczewworks fine on natty kde418:08
ari-tczewit didn't work till alpha118:08
bambeeyofel: works fine here18:09
yofelah, after reinstalling pinentry-qt4 it seems to work now18:10
yofelwth18:10
QuintasanScottK: I did sudo dpkg --purge --force-all kdm && sudo aptitude install kdm18:16
QuintasanScottK: and it works now18:16
shadeslayerinteresting note : Every other participant want's to develop a Application in Java18:23
shadeslayerapachelogger: ^^ Proof that java has taken over the world18:23
* bambee did read "Every other participant want's to develop a Application in ****"18:24
bambeein what ? :P18:24
yofelit's not that bad...18:24
shadeslayerright ..18:25
shadeslayerbut this guy want's to do a mail client in java18:25
shadeslayerbwahaha18:25
yofelso? someone wrote a torrent client/server in java18:25
* shadeslayer revels in increased bandwidth speeds18:26
shadeslayeryofel: okay... but making a torrent client in Java makes no sense18:27
yofeltell the azureus dev that18:27
shadeslayeri want my torrent client to be light...18:27
bambeeyofel:  I meant it as a joke ;)18:27
yofel:P18:27
yofelshadeslayer: hm, true18:27
shadeslayeryofel: i don't want a torrent client takes up ... a bazillion megs of memory18:28
bambeeshadeslayer: it does if you want a cross-platform client 18:28
bambee(I meant without rebuilding)18:29
shadeslayerbambee: you can make cross platform clients in C__18:29
shadeslayerC++18:29
bambeeshadeslayer: I know18:29
shadeslayerQt!!!18:29
shadeslayer:P18:29
bambeeshadeslayer: sure Qt18:29
yofelthen you could as well use python18:29
shadeslayersure you can18:30
bambeeyofel: python++18:30
bambee:)18:30
dokoanybody here who knows about the current state of the KDE uploads and builds?18:53
dokoand please be aware of bug #73076318:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 730763 in kdesvn (Ubuntu Natty) "[MIR] reverse depends for kdesdk, kdesvn-kio-plugins" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73076318:54
debfxdoko: i'm still uploading kde-l10n-*19:02
debfxthere are some build failures on armel because of bug #70779419:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 707794 in koffice (Ubuntu) "libqt4-opengl on armel should be compiled with OpenGL ES 2.x support" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70779419:02
dokowell, that won't break anything ;)19:02
dokoarmel needs to wait on today's gcc-4.519:02
debfxapachelogger switched to gcc-4.4 for kde19:04
yofeldebfx: since you did some editing there, do you have an idea what would cause bug 730323 ? The reporter said it worked in maverick19:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 730323 in apparmor (Ubuntu) "akonadi does not start if home dir is linked somewhere" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73032319:05
debfxyofel: is he sure that it worked on maverick?19:08
yofelhe said that it worked before the upgrade19:10
debfxyofel: seems to be a duplicate of bug #44729219:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 447292 in apparmor (Ubuntu Lucid) "AppArmor does not allow access when @{HOME} is not /home" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44729219:16
debfxyofel: I don't think it's fixable (except disabling the apparmor profile)19:19
apacheloggershadeslayer: it is just proof that a) students are lazy b) students think java is easy while in fact any of pth0rn/ruby/js are way easier than java 19:20
yofeldebfx: true, unless he hasn't set the new dir as home in /etc/passwd apparmor has probably no way of catching that19:26
ScottKapachelogger: Truth.  My wife took some programming classes a few years ago.  First one used Java.  Second one used Python.  At the end of her first exercise in the second class she asked me to check her code because it seemed way to simple.  Surely she was missing something.  She wasn't.  It was just Java is way more complicated.19:31
shadeslayeris https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization up to date?19:39
apacheloggeragateau: bug 730499 is worth an upstream wishlist report IMHO19:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 730499 in unity-2d "Translations: plural forms" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73049919:40
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aljava is easy because in eclipse you just roughly type what you mean to achieve and then click "quick fix" until all the red unterlines disappear21:31
yofel*that* is eclipse - not java21:32
alit's just like those point and click adventures21:32
shadeslayeryofel: i should be done in a few more minutes21:33
shadeslayerjust building squashfs right now21:33
shadeslayernight all22:18

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