[00:35] <yofel> downside of the wrapper script: I get a SIGFPE when I try to launch any app that is linked against stable KDE
[01:31] <c2tarun> I was installing project-neon, while installation its asking for package configuration, how can i know my package configuration?
[06:02] <ScottK> apachelogger: Not sure.  You'll have to come up with something.
[08:40] <droidslayer> Hey everybody
[08:46] <bambee> morning
[09:45] <apachelogger> ScottK: but how why when and generally zomg
[09:45] <apachelogger> I could rewrite everything with supreme apachelogger logic :P
[09:48] <bambee> the harald semantic :P
[09:48] <bambee> mhhh... it has been proved ? 
[09:48] <bambee> :D
[09:48] <valorie> in waltz time, or ..... Dropkick Murphys time?
[10:15] <droidslayer> Oh oh
[10:16] <droidslayer> apachelogger: plz2make .e
[10:16] <droidslayer> Er
[10:16] <droidslayer> Plz to make me a quassel client for android
[10:16] <droidslayer> apachelogger: ^^
[10:17] <apachelogger> Sput: ^
[10:17]  * apachelogger is too old for this
[10:17] <apachelogger> also I have to fix me a vpnc
[10:17] <apachelogger> this vpn connections application has like the most horrid code like evar
[10:17] <Sput> quasseldroid is at  https://github.com/sandsmark/QuasselDroid - for somewhat up2date builds and information how to use them see https://github.com/sandsmark/QuasselDroid/wiki/QuasselDroid-Wiki
[10:17] <droidslayer> :(
[10:17] <Sput> droidslayer: ^^
[10:17] <apachelogger> I have rarely seen such shitty engineered software
[10:17] <Sput> [x] done, next?
[10:18] <apachelogger> it scales neither up nor down nor sideways
[10:18] <droidslayer> Sput: It can connect directly to a core?
[10:18] <Sput> jip
[10:18] <Sput> haven't tried it myself, but people seem to generally be happy
[10:18] <apachelogger> adb install quasseldroid_b642294.apk 
[10:18] <apachelogger> win
[10:18] <apachelogger> ah
[10:18] <apachelogger> right
[10:18] <Sput> note that it's a very early development version and not finished yet in any way
[10:18]  * apachelogger busted his routing tables
[10:19] <Sput> but people seem to think it's usable already
[10:19] <apachelogger> just like quassel itself :P
[10:19] <Sput> apachelogger: yep.
[10:19] <apachelogger> which: not found
[10:19] <apachelogger> like srsly
[10:20] <apachelogger> a) what madness must a hardware vendor be driven by to not have which symlink'd to busybox...
[10:20] <apachelogger> b) why in the name of lord vader would one be using which in an app
[10:26] <droidslayer> Ok its trying to fetch the log
[10:29] <shadeslayer> uh
[10:29] <shadeslayer> hmm
[10:29] <shadeslayer> Sput: no backlog
[10:30] <Sput> dunno, that should work usually
[10:30] <Sput> then again, it's under heavy development
[10:30] <Sput> best to join #quassel and ask the people there :)
[10:30] <Sput> there's quite a few users and the developers in there
[10:30] <shadeslayer> /join #quassel
[10:30] <shadeslayer> bah
[10:31] <tazz> shadeslayer, no
[10:31] <shadeslayer> it doesn't work
[10:41] <apachelogger> Sput: it is not done using qt?
[10:41] <Sput> apachelogger: no, it's a native client
[10:42] <apachelogger> no wonder it is not working then :S
[10:51] <Sput> new quasseldroid up now, shadeslayer
[10:53] <apachelogger> good thing
[10:54] <apachelogger> only crashes here ^^
[10:58] <apachelogger> :O
[10:58] <apachelogger> WTF
[10:58] <apachelogger> that vpnc thing uses ps over /proc
[10:59] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I blieve android is made up out of madness
[10:59] <sleepslayer> Quite possible
[11:01] <apachelogger> Sput: I do believe quasseldroid has problems with the amount of apachelogger's channels :S
[11:01]  * apachelogger pokes his kernel build a bit to hurry along
[11:02] <apachelogger> slacker_nl: why are you sleeping again?
[11:02] <apachelogger> eh
[11:02] <apachelogger> slacker_nl: sry
[11:02] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you are swapping nicks like a wild man
[11:02] <apachelogger> also 
[11:02]  * apachelogger forgot what he wanted to say
[11:02] <apachelogger> something about mobile stuff
[11:17] <apachelogger> fun
[11:17] <apachelogger> the vpnc thing returns if it can read something on stderr
[11:18] <apachelogger> now why there is output on stderr is unkown but it fails when it really should not fail as the startup was successful
[11:18] <apachelogger> silly thing
[11:19] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/576934/ what is wrong with this other than using a legacy language?
[14:35] <shadeslayer> Riddell: hey ... you're at the hotel now? :D
[14:38] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: yofel my talk is on Friday 4.30 PM IST
[14:38] <dpm> hi apachelogger, a while ago we were discussing how quassel could use gettext for their translations, and in fact, if there would be a generic way for Qt-based projects to use gettext. We've now got exactly the same situation in unity-2d, which we've been discussing with agateau on bug 730499. I seem to remember you investigated this a bit back then. If you found out anything that could help, it'd be awesome if you could comment on the bug. Thanks!
[14:39] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: hi I am having some problems with project-neon, can you help?
[14:39] <shadeslayer> sure
[14:54] <bambee> shadeslayer: talks at conf.kde.in are recorded ?
[14:55] <shadeslayer> nope
[14:58] <shadeslayer> bambee: i'll try to setup a webcast and such
[15:01] <bambee> lovely :)
[16:39] <ScottK> al: See dpm's comment about.  Not sure if you might have any insight.
[16:39] <ScottK> about/above
[16:39] <al> ScottK, i'll have a look later today
[16:40] <ScottK> Thanks.
[17:14] <seaLne> we will be recording some of the conf.kde.in talks but won't be able to do them all
[17:15] <shadeslayer> seaLne: i'm thinking of starting a webcast
[17:15] <shadeslayer> but that requires bandwidth
[17:15] <seaLne> and there won't be
[17:15] <shadeslayer> :(
[17:34] <Quintasan> Riddell: Do you remember which package apparently fixed the ssh-agent not working?
[17:37] <Quintasan> or ScottK: ^
[17:37] <ScottK> It never didn't work for me, so no idea.
[17:38] <Quintasan> :/
[17:38] <tazz> shadeslayer, who will provide bandwidth for you ?
[17:38] <tazz> seaLne, how are you planning to record ?
[17:38] <shadeslayer> tazz: college? :P
[17:38] <Quintasan> It has to break every release then I don't know how to fix it and then after some time I reinstall my Kubuntu and it automagically works
[17:38] <shadeslayer> but seeing how there won't be any
[17:39] <tazz> shadeslayer, not with 100 people on the wifi trying to just check the mail.
[17:39] <shadeslayer> yeah :(
[17:39] <shadeslayer> tazz: along with my android phone sucking the bandwidth out of their interwebz
[17:39] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Why does apachelogger hate android phones?
[17:40] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: it's only natural
[17:40] <Quintasan> >apachelogger, >natural
[17:40] <Quintasan> does not compute
[17:40] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: or maybe this http://imgur.com/zzxCi
[17:41] <shadeslayer> who knows what goes inside his dark dark brain
[17:42] <ulysses> Quintasan: get a sonic screwdriver, it fixes everything
[17:42]  * Quintasan has no monies
[17:48] <Quintasan> ScottK: bug #688393
[17:48] <Quintasan> and it is apparently fixed :O
[17:48] <ScottK> OK.
[17:52] <shadeslayer> bambee: no webcast for you
[17:52] <shadeslayer> :(
[17:52] <bambee> shadeslayer: :'(
[17:52] <shadeslayer> they have no bandwidth there :(
[17:53] <Quintasan> Y U NO BANDWIDTH INDIA?
[17:53] <bambee> shadeslayer: don't worry ;)
[17:53] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: yeah ... it sucks
[18:03] <yofel> other question: does gpg-agent work for anyone?
[18:03] <yofel> or rather pinentry
[18:06] <shadeslayer> it does on maverick
[18:06] <shadeslayer> it's broken again?
[18:08] <ari-tczew> works fine on natty kde4
[18:08] <ari-tczew> it didn't work till alpha1
[18:09] <bambee> yofel: works fine here
[18:10] <yofel> ah, after reinstalling pinentry-qt4 it seems to work now
[18:10] <yofel> wth
[18:16] <Quintasan> ScottK: I did sudo dpkg --purge --force-all kdm && sudo aptitude install kdm
[18:16] <Quintasan> ScottK: and it works now
[18:23] <shadeslayer> interesting note : Every other participant want's to develop a Application in Java
[18:23] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ^^ Proof that java has taken over the world
[18:24]  * bambee did read "Every other participant want's to develop a Application in ****"
[18:24] <bambee> in what ? :P
[18:24] <yofel> it's not that bad...
[18:25] <shadeslayer> right ..
[18:25] <shadeslayer> but this guy want's to do a mail client in java
[18:25] <shadeslayer> bwahaha
[18:25] <yofel> so? someone wrote a torrent client/server in java
[18:26]  * shadeslayer revels  in increased bandwidth speeds
[18:27] <shadeslayer> yofel: okay... but making a torrent client in Java makes no sense
[18:27] <yofel> tell the azureus dev that
[18:27] <shadeslayer> i want my torrent client to be light...
[18:27] <bambee> yofel:  I meant it as a joke ;)
[18:27] <yofel> :P
[18:27] <yofel> shadeslayer: hm, true
[18:28] <shadeslayer> yofel: i don't want a torrent client takes up ... a bazillion megs of memory
[18:28] <bambee> shadeslayer: it does if you want a cross-platform client 
[18:29] <bambee> (I meant without rebuilding)
[18:29] <shadeslayer> bambee: you can make cross platform clients in C__
[18:29] <shadeslayer> C++
[18:29] <bambee> shadeslayer: I know
[18:29] <shadeslayer> Qt!!!
[18:29] <shadeslayer> :P
[18:29] <bambee> shadeslayer: sure Qt
[18:29] <yofel> then you could as well use python
[18:30] <shadeslayer> sure you can
[18:30] <bambee> yofel: python++
[18:30] <bambee> :)
[18:53] <doko> anybody here who knows about the current state of the KDE uploads and builds?
[18:54] <doko> and please be aware of bug #730763
[19:02] <debfx> doko: i'm still uploading kde-l10n-*
[19:02] <debfx> there are some build failures on armel because of bug #707794
[19:02] <doko> well, that won't break anything ;)
[19:02] <doko> armel needs to wait on today's gcc-4.5
[19:04] <debfx> apachelogger switched to gcc-4.4 for kde
[19:05] <yofel> debfx: since you did some editing there, do you have an idea what would cause bug 730323 ? The reporter said it worked in maverick
[19:08] <debfx> yofel: is he sure that it worked on maverick?
[19:10] <yofel> he said that it worked before the upgrade
[19:16] <debfx> yofel: seems to be a duplicate of bug #447292
[19:19] <debfx> yofel: I don't think it's fixable (except disabling the apparmor profile)
[19:20] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: it is just proof that a) students are lazy b) students think java is easy while in fact any of pth0rn/ruby/js are way easier than java 
[19:26] <yofel> debfx: true, unless he hasn't set the new dir as home in /etc/passwd apparmor has probably no way of catching that
[19:31] <ScottK> apachelogger: Truth.  My wife took some programming classes a few years ago.  First one used Java.  Second one used Python.  At the end of her first exercise in the second class she asked me to check her code because it seemed way to simple.  Surely she was missing something.  She wasn't.  It was just Java is way more complicated.
[19:39] <shadeslayer> is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization up to date?
[19:40] <apachelogger> agateau: bug 730499 is worth an upstream wishlist report IMHO
[21:31] <al> java is easy because in eclipse you just roughly type what you mean to achieve and then click "quick fix" until all the red unterlines disappear
[21:32] <yofel> *that* is eclipse - not java
[21:32] <al> it's just like those point and click adventures
[21:33] <shadeslayer> yofel: i should be done in a few more minutes
[21:33] <shadeslayer> just building squashfs right now
[22:18] <shadeslayer> night all