[00:01] <arrrghhh> does anyone use firefox on kde?
[00:06] <Mase_wk> arrrghhh: yup
[00:06] <arrrghhh> Mase_wk: any way to... ahem, make it not look like crap?
[00:07] <Mase_wk> arrrghhh: well i guess it depends what aspect you don't like.
[00:07] <arrrghhh> just doesn't look like any other kde app
[00:07] <arrrghhh> fonts are all wonky
[00:08] <Mase_wk> right, that's because it's not a kde app
[00:08] <arrrghhh> and the buttons/statusbar just look awful.
[00:08] <arrrghhh> i know
[00:08] <Mase_wk> it's actually a GTK application
[00:08] <arrrghhh> how can i make it look better tho?
[00:08] <arrrghhh> is there no qt version of ff?
[00:08] <Mase_wk> no mozilla use gtk
[00:08] <Mase_wk> ideally GTK would have a theme that looks like oxygen
[00:09] <Mase_wk> however i don't think they do. I think there is a qt-gtk engine which is a bit of a hack, but you can enable that for gtk applications in qt
[00:09] <Mase_wk> that should be in your settings somewhere
[00:12] <arrrghhh> hrm
[00:14] <arrrghhh> i have played with the gtk+ theme settings, but they don't seem to change anything.
[00:14] <arrrghhh> i am running 4.6.1, perhaps there's an issue with it
[00:17] <Mase_wk> dunno, it's really attacking the problem from the wrong direction. qt integrates nicely with GTK, i don't think it's quite as smooth the other way around
[00:17] <Mase_wk> at least not yet
[00:18] <root> hola
[00:34] <Torch> there is a port of oxygen to gtk
[00:34] <Torch> unfortunately it does not work with FF
[00:34] <arrrghhh> lol ofc
[00:35] <arrrghhh> i tried chrome, just doesn't have the integration of addons like ff does...
[00:40] <yofel> Torch: oxygen-gtk work reasonably fine here in firefox
[00:43] <arrrghhh> i remember that package.
[00:43] <arrrghhh> i'll try that, thanks.
[00:44] <arrrghhh> yofel: do i need a special repo enabled...?
[00:49] <yofel> I don't think we officially backported that, I have it in one of my ppas for maverick https://launchpad.net/~yofel/+archive/backports?field.series_filter=maverick
[00:52] <arrrghhh> lol
[00:52] <arrrghhh> ok
[00:55] <scb> Try qtcurve. Seems to work fine with everything. I have no idea what apps are GTK and which are Qt these days
[00:56] <arrrghhh> hrm.
[00:56] <arrrghhh> i think 4.6.1 has some issues, as no matter which i choose FF looks the same.  i close and reopen FF too.
[00:57] <arrrghhh> i guess i should roll back to 4.5.1, not sure how to do that now... i guess that ppa-purge command?
[00:57] <yofel> qtcurve was the old default - looks ok, unless you use a dark theme
[00:57] <scb> mkdir ~/gtk-bk; mv ~/.gtk* ~/gtk-bk; sudo apt-get install gtk-theme-switch; gtk-theme-switch2
[00:57] <yofel> ppa-purge yes, I don't know another comand
[00:57] <scb> Pick your favorite theme...
[00:58] <yofel> I do wonder why it doesn't work for you though
[00:58] <arrrghhh> scb: i've tried to change them (the GTK window appearance yes?) and it doesn't have any effect.
[00:58] <scb> arrrghhh: yes, do what I just told you to.
[00:58] <arrrghhh> ok
[01:01] <arrrghhh> scb: thanks!  OT, are those your initials?
[01:01] <scb> arrrghhh: I guess they are. Did it work?
[01:01] <arrrghhh> you guess they are?  lol.  yes it did work, thanks.
[01:33] <DarthFrog> Does anyone have an idea how to get around this error?  "Cannot open shared library libasound_module_conf_pulse.so"
[01:34] <DarthFrog> It's an old Loki game (SMAC) that causes that when pulseaudio is installed.
[01:51] <harleen> hello
[01:51] <harleen> hi c2tarun
[01:52] <c2tarun> hi harleen
[01:52] <harleen> where are you from c2tarun?
[01:52] <c2tarun> india
[01:52] <harleen> c2tarun: where do you live now?
[01:52] <harleen> c2tarun: where in india?
[01:53] <c2tarun> harleen: I think this channel is not for chit chat ;) but for kubuntu problems
[01:53] <harleen> c2tarun: how says?
[01:53] <harleen> who says?
[01:55] <arrrghhh> harleen: the topic
[01:55] <harleen> what is the topic?
[01:55] <arrrghhh> the topic of this channel.  it's not for chat, it's for support with the kubuntu OS
[01:55] <arrrghhh> !offtopic | harleen
[03:24] <buov> Where should I go to ask questions about web development
[03:25] <buov> ?
[03:25] <Daskreech> What kinda question?
[03:25] <Daskreech> s/ion/ions/
[03:43] <solifugus> I did an apt-get upgrade and now my system reboots to lots of flashing, colorful, text characters.
[03:44] <solifugus> my desktop at work, that is..... where i need to work.
[03:44] <solifugus> Is there a way to revert to boot off the old kernel?
[03:47] <Daskreech> solifugus: when you are starting the computer it says press any key for the menu
[03:48] <Daskreech> press your any key then choose a different kernel I'd suggest the third from the top
[03:59] <solifugus> DarkriftX: I'll try that.. thanks.
[04:23] <Mase_wk> afternoon all. I was wondering if there was anything i could do to disable akonadi_nepomuk. It is using a large amount of cpu every now and then ( according to krunners task list ) and I have nepomuk disabled from startup and from the settings.
[04:23] <Mase_wk> so i'm not really using it for anything.
[04:30] <Daskreech> well if nepomuk isn't using it I don't think anything else will
[04:31] <Mase_wk> Daskreech: it seems to be active when kmail is running
[04:32] <Daskreech> ah yes that might be true
[04:32] <Mase_wk> i am unsure if it's actually doing anything or just chewing cpu time looking for a non-existant nepomuk daemon
[04:33] <Daskreech> #kontact might be able to tell you
[04:33] <Mase_wk> thank you.
[05:30] <marktaff> Hi all.  Does anyone know where the config directory is for kdm sessions in kubuntu 10.10?  I want to hide some of the available login session types in kdm.  /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/sessions/ will apparently be overwritten during upgrades. thanks.
[05:31] <marktaff> See: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-workspace/kdm/different-window-managers-with-kdm.html
[05:35] <Torch> yofel: that's great to hear. hugo once said it doesn't really work very well with it and i thought that was the official statement.
[06:23] <killer> привет всем
[06:55] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[09:19] <baxeico> hi. I'm running plasma desktop 4.6.1 in maverick
[09:19] <baxeico> is it possibile to have klipper as a plasmoid in system tray?
[09:19] <baxeico> i cannot find it under "extra items" in system tray settings
[09:22] <marktaff> baxeico: yes
[09:22] <marktaff> baxeico: sys tray settings --> entries --> klipper
[09:24] <baxeico> marktaff: ok, thank you
[09:24] <marktaff> baxeico: yw
[09:38] <Spezi> hi, i just updated to kubuntu 10.10 and played around with desktop themes a bit, now my desktop icons get sorted from the upper left corner downwards automatically, no way of moving them somewhere else. i found the settings on what way they get sorted, but can i switch that off too?
[10:19] <hyper_ch> hi there, I have a weird issue... no matter what links I click in konversation, they get opened in the browser like file:///var/tmp/kdecache-.......   same happens also when I click a link from KMail
[10:34] <magano> alo
[11:14] <baffone85> hello
[11:14] <baffone85> is there a software for ubuntu some wuppy for iphone?
[12:05] <rethus> i have a cardreader. but if i insert it, i can't copy data from my disk to the card. but i can read the card
[12:06] <rethus> any idea, whats wrong here
[12:37] <zy> i'm curious why konqueror doesnt support side mouse buttons... is there any reason why this is so?
[12:38] <moxisi> 这里有人没有
[13:01] <rafael> oi
[14:55] <Icttrack> anybody has expriences in red5
[14:55] <Icttrack> i have started it but now want to turn it off
[15:02] <germyn> Has anyone tried Wolvix destros?
[15:04] <germyn> It come from Slackware.
[15:12] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[15:44] <Phoenixz> Where can one easily see disk usage?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> Phoenixz, in the terminal df h
[15:45] <BluesKaj> err df -h
[15:46] <Phoenixz> BluesKaj: Er, I think you missed the "easily".. I know df -h, I'm asking for my dad who would just like to see some easy pie chart thingie or something :)
[15:47] <BluesKaj> ah , Phoenixz a gui , maybe in the kpackagekit
[15:47] <Markuz_Cifer> Hi
[15:48] <Phoenixz> Markuz_Cifer: Hi
[15:48] <Phoenixz> BluesKaj: eh, in the kpackagekit? thats for installing software...
[15:50] <BluesKaj> Phoenixz, yeah, thatwhere you might find an app that will show the hdd in pie chart or whatever
[15:53] <BluesKaj> pho maybe kdf will work
[15:55] <BluesKaj> err Phoenixz ,, try kdf , it's in the repos
[16:33] <Thinkerer68> What is the distinction between a NAS and an external HDD?
[16:36] <kiffa> did you guys build h.a.a.r.p ?
[16:45] <genii-around> Thinkerer68: An external hard drive usually is connected to only one computer and usuable only there. NAS is storage all the systems on your LAN have access to
[16:46] <Thinkerer68> So it ain't a NAS without "Network", right?
[16:46] <Thinkerer68> What about RAID capability. Is that a requirement for NAS?
[16:48] <genii-around> Thinkerer68: RAID isn't a requirement, but is preferred. Because why have this storage everyone can use if there's no redundancy.
[16:48] <Thinkerer68> Hmm.
[16:49] <Thinkerer68> Is there a RAID capable NAS recommendable for Linux users?
[16:50] <Thinkerer68> I see some commercial NAS boxes include lots of Windoze and Apple specific "features"
[16:52] <genii-around> Thinkerer68: Most people generally use some old box and stuff a lot of storage in it, then use something like samba and ubuntu server. This is more the do-it-yourself way. But there are also distributions just for this purpose, like FreeNAS
[16:52] <Thinkerer68> FreeNAS == FreeBSD
[16:52] <genii-around> Yup
[16:53] <Thinkerer68> I wonder if anyone here has a NAS and could commend about what to get?
[16:54] <Thinkerer68> genii-around: Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts  :D
[16:54] <genii-around> There may be some debian-centric embedded version for NAS as well, but I don't bother much. I have just a few old P3 with RAID5 running samba for what I do here in my office
[16:57] <PtG76_uz> Hi All!
[16:58] <christopher> I have a NETGEAR ReadyNAS NV+
[16:59] <christopher> I use it at work to back up VMs and other things too.
[16:59] <christopher> works rather well
[16:59] <christopher> Thinkerer68: ^
[17:00] <Thinkerer68> thanks, christopher :)
[17:01] <christopher> np
[17:04] <Thinkerer68> looks pretty nice <http://www.readynas.com/?cat=4>
[17:05]  * Thinkerer68 AFK
[17:49] <checcoxyz> Sera
[17:56] <r41> hi there, how can i remove "home folder" from kicker favorites?
[18:04] <Torch> r41: right click and "remove from favorites", i guess.
[18:22] <r41> does work for all other except from home folder Torch
[18:23] <Torch> r41: ah, i wasn't aware of that. i'm not using the new launcher anymore.
[18:25] <patrizia> asd
[18:25] <patrizia> !help
[18:25] <patrizia> #help
[18:53] <vanguard> how can I check in a bash script whether a command (like git) exists?
[18:59] <vanguard> and is there some way to check whether I can install software using apt-get (i. e. am I a sudoer)?
[18:59] <PhilRod_> vanguard: for the first one:
[18:59] <PhilRod_> if which git &>/dev/null; then echo got git; fi
[19:00] <vanguard> PhilRod_: thanks, "got git?" would make an awesome T-Shirt I think :D
[19:00] <PhilRod_> vanguard: for the second, see "sudo -l"
[19:01] <PhilRod_> vanguard: heh, yeah :-)
[19:02] <vanguard> PhilRod_: if I type "$ sudo -l apt-get", I get "[sudo] password for ..."
[19:03] <kiffa> nigger
[19:03] <kiffa> the password is always nigger
[19:03] <vanguard> kiffa: sure? ...
[19:04] <PhilRod_> vanguard: hm, yes. I guess sudo won't tell you what permission you have unless you have permissions...
[19:04] <tsimpson> kiffa: I suggest you stop that kind of behaviour
[19:05] <vanguard> If i enter it, I get "User xx may run the following commands on this host:    (ALL) ALL"
[19:05] <vanguard> hmm, I guess I would add a command line option for that then
[19:07] <germyn> Here is a question, do you know the Wolvix linux, and what do you think of it?
[19:13] <germyn> So no comment? Maybe no one knows.
[19:14] <germyn> I have been their to ask a question and know will answer.
[19:14] <BluesKaj> germyn,  probly not
[19:14] <BluesKaj> never heard of it
[19:15] <germyn> It is a Slackware linux, I installed it yesterday and had a question.
[19:15] <BluesKaj> germyn,  look for wolvix chatroom
[19:16] <germyn> I had been thier and know on will answer
[19:16] <germyn> I was their all night with nothing.
[19:19] <germyn> The support is , well not there.I think I will stay with Kubuntu.
[19:19] <BluesKaj> ask in slackware then
[19:19] <germyn> I will try it.
[19:43] <PtG76_uz> by by
[20:10] <vanguard> how can I find out where endash and emdash are on a german keyboard?
[20:19] <BluesKaj> vanguard,  ask in #kubuntu-de
[20:28] <vanguard> how can I get a sudo ssh session? just user@host doesn't really cut it (I need to be root on both systems for using unison---file syncer--- on system files)
[20:30] <DarthFrog> The easy way would be to use ssh with PKI authorization.
[20:31] <vanguard> I alredy use that (ssh-copy-id and stuff), but how do I enable that for sudo?
[20:31] <DarthFrog> Set up the remote systems sshd to use "PermitRootLogin without-password".
[20:31] <DarthFrog> Use "sudo -i" first.
[20:35] <DarthFrog> Ubuntu 12.04 will be the "Oneiric Ocelot".
[20:38] <gmargo> That's the name for 11.10 I believe.
[20:38] <gmargo> 12.04 will be "Marvelous Margo" :-)
[20:39] <DarthFrog> Peerless Polecat? :-)
[20:39] <DarthFrog> Passionate Pangolin?
[20:39] <gmargo> Oh no, that's the wrong way, isn't it?  Must be Pathetic Preener
[20:39] <esmirlin> Hi! is there any way to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04???
[20:39] <DarthFrog> Plump Penguin?
[20:40] <Tm_T> gmargo: DarthFrog: please, move to offtopic channel
[20:40] <Tm_T> esmirlin: 11.04 isn't released yet
[20:40] <DarthFrog> esmirlin: 11.04 isn't released yet.  There will be an upgrade path once it is.
[21:00] <Guest56868> hola
[21:00] <Guest56868> hay alguien a hi
[21:00] <Guest56868> alguien de mexico
[21:01] <Guest56868> que desee ayudarmee
[21:02] <esmirlin> Guest56868: yo
[21:24] <Renegade15> good evening
[21:28] <Renegade15> I'm having a slight issue here: on bootup, KDE complains that /tmp/[numbers]/.kde/share/config/knotifyrc and /tmp/[numbers]/.kde/share/config/kdedrc are not writable; I've checked, and they're owned by kdm:nogroup rather than my user/group. I usually wouldn't care much, but htop shows that the two processes (/usr/bin/knotify4 and kdeinit4: kded4) are each using 100% cpu time (this is a 4-core-system), and I suspect the issues might be relat
[21:28] <Renegade15> ed. Does anyone know how to fix this? I'd rather not waste an entire core just so knotify can idle...
[21:30] <shadeslayer> i think the kdeinit4 taking up 100 % CPU is a bug
[21:32] <Renegade15> I guess upgrading could help, but all the kde packages are "helpfully" being held back by apt
[21:32] <Torch> Renegade15: try a dist-upgrade instead of an upgrade then
[21:33] <Torch> Renegade15: also, did you delete those two files in /tmp as root? did they get recreated?
[21:33] <Renegade15> I didn't delete either of those files
[21:37] <Renegade15> oh well...dist-upgrade it is, then.