| Xase | Think I can fully install Ubuntu on the Nook Color with this processor ARM Cortex A8-based Ti OMAP 3621? Instead of that stupid Ubuntu ARM over VNC on Android trick? | 05:57 |
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| === hrww is now known as hrw | ||
| hrw | can someone copy me bootcmd from normal ubuntu uboot for panda/beagle? | 09:56 |
| hrw | ~summon ogra | 10:26 |
| * ogra waves | 10:28 | |
| hrw | http://pastebin.com/YXWdZTfe - lovely hang | 10:28 |
| hrw | ubuntu mlo + uboot + .35 kernel | 10:29 |
| hrw | same with linaro mlo (1.44) | 10:29 |
| hrw | worked with .37-linaro kernel | 10:29 |
| hrw | and my board shutdowns when ubuntu/xload + ubuntu/uboot + linaro.37 are used | 10:29 |
| ogra | weird | 10:30 |
| ogra | we dont have such probs | 10:30 |
| hrw | I will dig other psu to compare | 10:31 |
| ogra | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/releases/natty/alpha-3/ | 10:31 |
| ogra | try with this image, it definitely worked on all our boards | 10:31 |
| ogra | .35 kernel, and the x-loader and u-boot from natty | 10:31 |
| ogra | afaik we are using all the same x-loader and u-boot linaro packages | 10:32 |
| hrw | will check | 10:32 |
| ogra | i have never seen such an x-loader hangs message that late in the boot | 10:32 |
| hrw | if image will fail to boot I will start to send more curses^Wcomplains in TI direction | 10:33 |
| ogra | only if the FAT wasnt ok but then usually before the kernel gets exectuted | 10:33 |
| hrw | fsck passed | 10:33 |
| ogra | doesnt matter | 10:34 |
| ogra | x-loader-omap4-panda and u-boot-linaro-omap4-panda are the binary packages we currently use in ubuntu | 10:36 |
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| fairuz | outer_flush_range will flush L1 and L2 or only L2? =) | 10:43 |
| === ericm_ is now known as ericm | ||
| noah1989 | hi, has anyone got s-video working correctly on the beagleboard xM? | 10:49 |
| noah1989 | it kinda works with the natty alpha-2 image | 10:49 |
| ogra | i think GrueMaster wanted to test it once | 10:49 |
| ogra | but you have to wait until he gets up (US Pacific TZ) | 10:49 |
| noah1989 | however the resolution is not correct (larger than 640x480) and the left part is off-screen | 10:50 |
| noah1989 | twaeaking the timings doesn't work. only the predefined "ntsc" and "pal" are accepted | 10:50 |
| noah1989 | everything else -> invalid argument | 10:51 |
| hrw | so far so good - booting | 10:52 |
| ogra | with what files ? | 10:53 |
| ogra | and what did you do to get there ? | 10:53 |
| noah1989 | orga: are u talking to me? | 10:53 |
| ogra | no to hrw | 10:54 |
| noah1989 | ok | 10:54 |
| ogra | i have no svideo around to even test so i cant tell much about it | 10:54 |
| hrw | ogra: alpha3 image | 10:55 |
| ogra | ah, k | 10:55 |
| ogra | intresting | 10:55 |
| hrw | ogra: booted to language selector and have to findout where my usb devices are | 10:55 |
| ogra | if you used the same packages it can only be your formatting | 10:55 |
| hrw | so linaro-image-tools | 10:56 |
| ogra | right, likely a wrong formatting of the vfat | 10:57 |
| hrw | time to report bugs against installer? | 10:57 |
| ogra | which installer ? | 10:58 |
| ogra | l-i-t ? | 10:58 |
| hrw | oem-setup or how ubuntu installer is named | 10:58 |
| ogra | hmm, why ? | 10:58 |
| hrw | keyboard selector lacks Polish chars in country/layout lists | 11:00 |
| hrw | "Po?udniowoafryka?ski" or "Pakista?ski" | 11:00 |
| hrw | font has "ł ń" characters cause they are used in other places | 11:01 |
| ogra | hmm, intresting | 11:01 |
| noah1989 | " S-video resolution is 720x574 (pal) or 720x482 (ntsc). The edges of that | 11:03 |
| noah1989 | area are usually not shown by the TVs. To get a framebuffer that is | 11:03 |
| noah1989 | fully visible, you need to resize and move the overlay." | 11:03 |
| noah1989 | ah! didn#t know that.. | 11:03 |
| hrw | http://42.pl/u/2z8N | 11:03 |
| hrw | ogra: http://42.pl/u/2z8N | 11:03 |
| ogra | intresting | 11:05 |
| ogra | they dont wear bras | 11:06 |
| ogra | :P | 11:06 |
| LetoThe2nd | oO( erm... what? ) | 11:06 |
| ogra | the pic hrw linked to | 11:06 |
| LetoThe2nd | gnah. that one again. | 11:07 |
| hrw | nice thing is that installation does not require mouse | 11:11 |
| hrw | desktop is unusable without it | 11:11 |
| ogra | yeah, there is a bug open for unity-2d accessibility | 11:12 |
| ogra | you can select classic gnome at the login manager though | 11:13 |
| ogra | that should be usable by kbd | 11:13 |
| hrw | cyanish framebuffer works | 11:13 |
| ogra | indeed | 11:13 |
| * ogra wonders whern someone will add fi fix for the color offset | 11:14 | |
| hrw | ogra: there are rumours that 2.6.66 'ivil edition' will have it | 11:14 |
| ogra | should really not be to hard to manipulate the rgb defaults | 11:15 |
| ogra | your font stuff is intresting, seems to only affect the selection list, all other parts of the app have the right encoding | 11:16 |
| hrw | exactly | 11:17 |
| hrw | #ubuntu-installer exists? | 11:17 |
| ogra | yep | 11:17 |
| ogra | talk to ev | 11:17 |
| hrw | thx | 11:18 |
| noah1989 | installation works w/o mouse EXCEPT time zone setting | 11:36 |
| ppisati | orga: ping | 12:15 |
| ppisati | ogra: ping | 12:15 |
| apw | ogra, meet ppisati ... | 12:16 |
| apw | ogra, is going to be doing some arm work on the kernel team | 12:16 |
| armin76 | looks like ogra is hiding from him | 12:34 |
| ogra | ppisati, apw, awesome | 12:40 |
| ogra | !! | 12:40 |
| ogra | janimo, whats that about your NEON patch to Qt ? | 12:40 |
| ppisati | ogra: Hi! i just got a mvl-dove board, do you know where i can find an image for it? | 12:45 |
| janimo | ogra, FTBFS fix, some files were not properly passed -mfpu=neon so gcc bailed | 12:47 |
| janimo | needed a change to gui.pro in the sources | 12:47 |
| janimo | I'll update the bugreport | 12:47 |
| ogra | janimo, i see that, but i would know about the implications | 12:47 |
| * janimo is annoyed by whatver changed lately in natty that fails to highlight xchat pings | 12:47 | |
| janimo | ogra, we'll see the implications once it builds I guess | 12:48 |
| ogra | are there now *any* files in the archive that have NEON enabled in a hardcoded way ? | 12:48 |
| janimo | there are a few files built with neon options | 12:48 |
| janimo | the rest of Qt without | 12:48 |
| ogra | thats not acceptable | 12:48 |
| janimo | so hopefully only when those are enabled at runtime will run | 12:48 |
| janimo | I looked over the bugreport comments and am not 100% sure I understand everything | 12:49 |
| ogra | all NEON paths in code need to be runtime switched or off by default | 12:49 |
| janimo | however my patch so far is not assuming it fixes neon | 12:49 |
| janimo | just fixes the build | 12:49 |
| janimo | then we see if neon runtime detection works and fix it if it does not | 12:49 |
| ogra | well, -mfpu=neon will enable it hardcoded for these files | 12:50 |
| janimo | ogra, I believe that is what Qt does but have not checked. A few files which are built with neon should only be used when neon is detected | 12:50 |
| janimo | ogra, right, but those function will not be called all the time | 12:50 |
| ogra | k | 12:50 |
| ogra | lets test then | 12:50 |
| janimo | otherwise there is not neon at all if we do not build at least some functions with it | 12:50 |
| ogra | i guess i need to upgrade my ac100 to natty this week :( | 12:50 |
| ogra | ppisati, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/releases/maverick/release/ was the last release we built for dove (not sure how well that image works though, you might be better off with the lucid one) | 12:51 |
| janimo | ogra I also took out gnome-panel from u-2d deps, hopefully it wil not be included on the image soon | 12:52 |
| janimo | as it is not used | 12:52 |
| ogra | it is used | 12:52 |
| ogra | by gdm | 12:52 |
| janimo | I don;t think it is | 12:52 |
| janimo | if so it will be pulled in by gdm then | 12:52 |
| ogra | gdm uses a cut down gnome standard session in the greeter | 12:52 |
| janimo | I have not seen anything resembling the gnome-panel in gdm login screens | 12:52 |
| janimo | just shutdown/reboot menu but that is different | 12:53 |
| ogra | the panel at the bottom is gnome-panel afaik | 12:53 |
| ogra | in any case we need gnome-panel for the classic session, if all deps are removed i need to seed it | 12:54 |
| janimo | ogra, we also have the classis session on the image?? | 12:54 |
| ogra | sure | 12:54 |
| janimo | I thiught unity and unity-2d is all | 12:54 |
| ogra | no | 12:54 |
| janimo | oh boy | 12:54 |
| ogra | we have a minimal classic session as -desktop does | 12:54 |
| janimo | the whole kitchen sink. So the chances of getting a mixed up nonfucntional environment like now compiz crashing+gnome classic creates on x86 | 12:55 |
| ogra | the only thing we additionally use is unity-2d, else our setup needs to match -desktop | 12:55 |
| ogra | doesnt carsh for me here | 12:55 |
| janimo | I have not yet run unity successfuly | 12:55 |
| ogra | wow | 12:55 |
| ogra | graphics card ? | 12:55 |
| janimo | and am not sure the bothed experience I get with classic now is due to unity bits remaning or gnome-calssic changed as well | 12:56 |
| janimo | intel | 12:56 |
| janimo | had workse on ati r300 | 12:56 |
| janimo | I mean it runs for a while then crashes | 12:56 |
| ogra | hmm, my 965 works fine here | 12:56 |
| ogra | with unity as well as witch classic | 12:56 |
| janimo | dual screen support looks weird - tooltips on a different screen than the buttons they belong to | 12:56 |
| janimo | I seea deluge of unity bugs and I do not have the time to fight it | 12:57 |
| ogra | ah, i only use an external screen on my laptop, but in single screen mode (laptop LCD off) | 12:57 |
| janimo | this is GMA4500 | 12:57 |
| ogra | ah, thats newer | 12:57 |
| janimo | maybe it is the dual setup, anyway I cannot image how this is going to be very stable in less than two months | 12:58 |
| ogra | heh | 12:58 |
| janimo | did the gnome-classic experience change too? | 12:58 |
| ogra | ask the DX team, they seem to be confident | 12:58 |
| ogra | (from what i gather in the release team meetings on fridays) | 12:58 |
| janimo | I see only one menu now in the corner (not app/places/system) | 12:58 |
| ogra | gnome-classic should look like it did before | 12:59 |
| ogra | i.e. in maverick | 12:59 |
| janimo | and the app menus are gone - I thought only unity moves them to top of screen | 12:59 |
| ogra | i have appmenus here | 12:59 |
| janimo | ok, so unity bits stay around even if compiz crashes. convenient | 12:59 |
| janimo | I guess I need to reboot more often and not just suspend/resume | 13:00 |
| ogra | i have to use classic because i just digitize my LP collection, audaciy (and i guess other wxwidget apps) doesnt work right with the appmenu in panel | 13:00 |
| ogra | runs as smooth as always | 13:01 |
| janimo | ok, that is reassuring | 13:01 |
| janimo | ogra, have you seen the debian-cd merge request? | 13:01 |
| ogra | hmm, no | 13:02 |
| lool | janimo: I did | 13:09 |
| lool | janimo: I flagged it as "I should really look at it" but didn't get the time | 13:09 |
| janimo | lool, ok thanks | 13:14 |
| ogra | gah | 14:00 |
| ogra | wh does update-manager install postfix on a maverick->natty upgrade | 14:01 |
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| rsalveti | morning | 14:09 |
| ogra | hey, isnt it a public holiday in brazil ? | 14:09 |
| ogra | or only if you dance ? | 14:10 |
| rsalveti | yup, carnival | 14:11 |
| rsalveti | but I'm more to rock and roll than the usual carnival dance ;-) | 14:12 |
| rsalveti | ogra: janimo: in theory the neon issue would be solved by compiling just the neon affected files with neon support | 14:12 |
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| rsalveti | and then at runtime it'd load the correct lib | 14:12 |
| rsalveti | that's what I think it was changed for qt 4.7.2 | 14:12 |
| ogra | rsalveti, yeah, the question is if thats really the case | 14:13 |
| rsalveti | we'll see :-) | 14:13 |
| ogra | but i'm just upgrading to natty here | 14:13 |
| ogra | so as soon as it built i can test | 14:13 |
| ogra | (if that upgrade ever finishes) | 14:14 |
| janimo | ogra, only one day left to go :) | 14:14 |
| ogra | yeah, possibly the same for my upgrade :P | 14:14 |
| janimo | it just finished buildin on a panda here, started lastd night | 14:14 |
| rsalveti | ppisati: welcome! | 14:15 |
| * ogra urgently needs to re-roll the ac100 kernel with all patches here ... the MMC driver doesnt know about fast cards and limits itself to 16M/s | 14:15 | |
| janimo | ogra, do you have the sources to that kernel? can it be patched to 2.6.38? | 14:16 |
| ogra | it cant, but some people are working on moving it to .36 atm | 14:16 |
| ogra | once thats done the next level shouldnt be to hard | 14:16 |
| ogra | problem is that apparently the clocks arent set anywhere in the 2.6.29 code so they currently use random values and try to determine the right ones | 14:17 |
| ppisati | rsalveti: yeah :) | 14:37 |
| hrw | ogra: you have devscripts installed? | 14:39 |
| ogra | hrw, only with --no-install-recommends | 14:39 |
| ogra | might be that u-m doesnt respect that though | 14:39 |
| ogra | which is annoying | 14:40 |
| ppisati | ericm: ping | 14:42 |
| ericm | ppisati, pong | 14:43 |
| ericm | ppisati, did you get the package? | 14:43 |
| ppisati | ericm: got the board, but i'm unable to get it running | 14:43 |
| ericm | ppisati, what's wrong? | 14:43 |
| ppisati | ericm: wait let me tell you what i did | 14:43 |
| ericm | ppisati, 'k | 14:43 |
| ppisati | ericm: i got a mvl image (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/ports/releases/maverick/release/ubuntu-netbook-10.10-netbook-armel+dove.img) | 14:44 |
| ppisati | ericm: dd it on a sd card | 14:44 |
| ppisati | ericm: put the sd card in sd 1 or 2 (tried both) | 14:44 |
| ericm | ppisati, ah - it doesn't boot from SD | 14:44 |
| ericm | ppisati, try USB | 14:44 |
| ppisati | ericm: ah | 14:45 |
| ppisati | ericm: so i need a usb stick? | 14:45 |
| ericm | ppisati, yep | 14:45 |
| ppisati | ericm: k, let my try | 14:45 |
| ppisati | ericm: does it make any difference in which usb port i plug the stick? | 14:49 |
| ericm | ppisati, nope | 14:49 |
| ericm | ppisati, but you can try | 14:50 |
| ericm | ppisati, if it doesn't boot on one or the other | 14:50 |
| ppisati | ericm: the serial should work, right? | 14:51 |
| ericm | ppisati, I remember so - but last time I was unable to see anything from there | 14:51 |
| ericm | ppisati, cannot remember of if it's now using the USB serial besides that RS232 connector | 14:52 |
| ppisati | ericm: but at least the vga output should spit something, right? | 14:52 |
| ericm | ppisati, yep | 14:53 |
| ericm | ppisati, or you may want to try a different monitor | 14:53 |
| ericm | ppisati, I have two monitors here, one work, the other doesn't | 14:53 |
| ericm | ppisati, :-) | 14:53 |
| ppisati | ericm: no signs of life :( | 14:56 |
| ericm | ppisati, :-( | 14:56 |
| ppisati | ericm: which .img did you use with that board? | 14:56 |
| ericm | ppisati, I used 10.04 | 14:56 |
| ogra | as i said above, maverick might not work | 14:57 |
| ppisati | ogra: k | 14:57 |
| ericm | ogra, cannot find the 10.04 dove image though, strange | 14:59 |
| ppisati | ericm: yep, it's not there | 14:59 |
| ogra | might be on releases.u.c | 14:59 |
| ppisati | ogra: found it, let me try that | 15:04 |
| ogra | GrueMaster, hmm, when did you do your last natty upgrade test, cups seems to hang here upgrading the ac100 to natty | 15:28 |
| ogra | i wonder if thats a recent regression or something new | 15:31 |
| ppisati | ogra: no luck either with 10.04 | 15:35 |
| ogra | weird | 15:37 |
| ppisati | yep :( | 15:38 |
| ogra | ppisati, talk to GrueMaster and NCommander, they are the only ones still owning dove boards in the arm team | 15:38 |
| ppisati | ogra: ok, thanks | 15:38 |
| ogra | (we havent touched it actively in the team since a year, NCommander did a special spinnoff for the maverick release) | 15:38 |
| ppisati | NCommander: ping | 15:39 |
| ppisati | GrueMaster: ping | 15:39 |
| ogra | what revision is your board ? | 15:40 |
| ppisati | ogra: is it written on the pcb? | 15:41 |
| ogra | there should be a sticker | 15:41 |
| ogra | i think we only supported X0 and upwards in the end | 15:41 |
| ogra | not sure though | 15:41 |
| ppisati | ogra: actually ericm said he was using this | 15:41 |
| GrueMaster | ppisati: morning. | 15:42 |
| ogra | hmm, k | 15:42 |
| GrueMaster | (barely) | 15:42 |
| ppisati | GrueMaster: morning | 15:42 |
| ogra | GrueMaster, ppisati is our new arm kernel victim :) | 15:42 |
| GrueMaster | I'm sorry. | 15:42 |
| ppisati | :) | 15:42 |
| ogra | lol | 15:42 |
| ericm | ppisati, it's A0 and lucid installation should be working | 15:42 |
| ericm | ppisati, I installed it days ago | 15:42 |
| ppisati | ericm: usb stick and vga output, right? | 15:43 |
| ericm | ppisati, yes | 15:43 |
| doko | janimo: saw a new qt4-x11 update today. this should be repeated after today's gcc-4.5 is in the archive | 15:43 |
| ogra | doko, you mean rebuilt :) | 15:44 |
| ericm | ppisati, is the hex LED increasing ever? | 15:44 |
| ogra | and the ugly hack dropped | 15:44 |
| ppisati | ogra: actually it's completely off | 15:45 |
| ppisati | ogra: while a couple of other green leds are on | 15:45 |
| doko | ogra: whatever ... | 15:45 |
| ppisati | ogra: did you use an atx power brick to power it? | 15:46 |
| ogra | doko, i meant to say ... its high up on our radar, dont worry :) | 15:46 |
| ogra | ppisati, yes and a sata disk ... but i only had a Y0 | 15:46 |
| ogra | thats loooong ago | 15:47 |
| ppisati | ogra: k | 15:47 |
| ppisati | ericm: and did you use an atx power brick too? | 15:47 |
| ericm | ppisati, yes | 15:47 |
| ppisati | ericm: and do you remember if the HEX leds were on? | 15:47 |
| ppisati | ericm: i mean, even when it didn't boot | 15:48 |
| ericm | ppisati, it's powered on as '7' | 15:48 |
| ericm | ppisati, or '0' | 15:48 |
| ppisati | ericm: i'm trying to rule out a power problem | 15:48 |
| ericm | ppisati, and when kernel actually boots, it starts increasing from 0 to 7 | 15:48 |
| ericm | ppisati, it's a standard ATX, shouldn't be much a problem | 15:48 |
| ppisati | ericm: uhmm... | 15:48 |
| ericm | ppisati, have to sleep now - let me know if you succeed with that crappy board :-) | 15:50 |
| ericm | ppisati, good luck | 15:50 |
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| GrueMaster | ppisati: I can work with you on getting your dove running, but I need my coffee first. Give me 15 minutes. | 15:52 |
| ppisati | GrueMaster: k, thanks | 15:54 |
| GrueMaster | ppisati: Ok, I'm semi-awake now. Have you gotten anywhere with your dove board yet? | 16:20 |
| ppisati | GrueMaster: nope | 16:23 |
| GrueMaster | Are you getting power? | 16:23 |
| ppisati | GrueMaster: i tried with a Lucid and Maverick image on sd and usb | 16:23 |
| ppisati | GrueMaster: well, i'm using an ATX power brick | 16:23 |
| ppisati | GrueMaster: the HEX lcd is off, but a couple of green leds on the board turn on | 16:23 |
| ppisati | GrueMaster: so i guess power is ok | 16:24 |
| ppisati | GrueMaster: could you try to power on a board with no usb/sd inside and tell me if the LCD turns on? | 16:24 |
| GrueMaster | No, that just means standby power is available. Press the power button. It is on the mainboard, next to the barrel power connector . | 16:25 |
| GrueMaster | I am currently rebooting mine into Lucid. Works just fine. | 16:26 |
| ppisati | GrueMaster: ... | 16:27 |
| ppisati | GrueMaster: i fell really dumb now... | 16:27 |
| GrueMaster | heh. | 16:27 |
| ppisati | GrueMaster: thanks | 16:27 |
| GrueMaster | No problem. And don't worry, I won't start your beer tab for at least a week. :P | 16:28 |
| GrueMaster | ogra: What was the issue you had with Cups? | 16:30 |
| ppisati | GrueMaster: :) | 16:30 |
| ogra | GrueMaster, service restart/stop from the preinst/postinst scripts seemed to hang | 16:47 |
| GrueMaster | Hmmm. | 16:47 |
| GrueMaster | This is in natty? | 16:47 |
| ogra | maverick to natty on the ac100 | 16:47 |
| GrueMaster | Not that I have an ac100 to test with, but I'll try to reproduce it today on panda. May take a while (install, update, upgrade). | 16:48 |
| ogra | yeah | 16:49 |
| ogra | 3h up to now on the ac100 | 16:49 |
| ogra | i just used do-release-upgrade on cmdline though | 16:49 |
| GrueMaster | Ok. I'll keep that in mind. | 16:49 |
| hrw | ogra: you finally upgrade? | 16:50 |
| ogra | yes | 16:50 |
| ogra | need to test neon bits | 16:50 |
| hrw | ;D | 16:50 |
| hrw | I am waiting for courier to replace alix.1c (amd geodelx x86) with d510mo (d510 64bit atom) | 16:51 |
| hrw | will see how good/bad ubuntu server will work on my router | 16:51 |
| ogra | its just x86 hw ... | 16:52 |
| ogra | it will work well | 16:52 |
| hrw | I had binutils-powerpc-linux-gnu on router... | 16:54 |
| GrueMaster | ppisati: Did your system boot? | 17:09 |
| janimo | doko, I noticed the new gcc contains the fix, but I wanted to do an upload so I don't wait another day, and more importantly so that we have a 4.7.2 in a a hopefully working state with gcc 4.4 and have the compiler change as a separate step , in case somehtign goes wrong we don't have to scractj our heads againt whether it is a toolcahin on upstream change that caused the difference | 17:27 |
| janimo | but yes, we need to rebuild with gcc 4.5 ASAP | 17:27 |
| ogra | janimo, well, we also need to drop the patch anyway | 17:27 |
| ogra | i guess if we take care by thu. it will be ok | 17:28 |
| ogra | both packages will have built then | 17:28 |
| janimo | what is thu, another milestone? | 17:28 |
| ogra | yeah, the weekly thursday milestone ... comes right before the weekly friday one ;) | 17:28 |
| janimo | ogra, by tomorrow we'll see if neon runtime detection work adn whether another qt change is needed | 17:28 |
| janimo | :) | 17:28 |
| ogra | right | 17:29 |
| ogra | i dont think we are in a hurry with the rebuild ... though the kde people might disagree | 17:29 |
| ogra | not sure how much pressure has built up there | 17:29 |
| janimo | ogra, whay would they care that much? | 17:35 |
| ogra | because not all of kde is built yet ? | 17:35 |
| janimo | as long as it is agreed it is a temporary measure and has no drawbacks | 17:35 |
| * ogra hasnt checked the list | 17:35 | |
| janimo | ogra, ah, I thought it was in reference to qt | 17:37 |
| ogra | nah, kde | 17:37 |
| janimo | indeed kde needs rebuilds, I think this is taken care of kubuntu devs unless it is arm specific FTBFS | 17:38 |
| janimo | I think it is just the usual deps not yet met thing | 17:38 |
| ogra | yep | 17:38 |
| ogra | xulrunner-1.9.2 (1.9.2.14+build3+nobinonly-0ubuntu2) wird eingerichtet ... | 17:42 |
| ogra | Segmentation fault (core dumped) | 17:42 |
| ogra | hrm | 17:42 |
| ogra | not good | 17:42 |
| GrueMaster | Hey, I got Blaze running natty A3. replaced x-loader & u-boot with rsalveti's secret sauce and everything looks good, even unity-2d. | 17:47 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: \o/ | 17:47 |
| ndec1 | GrueMaster: which kernel are you using? | 17:48 |
| ogra | awesome | 17:48 |
| GrueMaster | Default kernel that is in the image. 2.6.35-1101.4 I think. | 17:48 |
| ndec1 | GrueMaster: thx | 17:48 |
| GrueMaster | ogra: rsalvetiWhat are the chances of having both panda & blaze versions of uboot & xloader in the deb package? Or are they heading towards a single binary? | 17:54 |
| GrueMaster | Ugh. Fresh install of maverick, then dist-upgrade == 242 package updates. | 18:04 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: they will be the same binary | 18:08 |
| rsalveti | but we're still waiting correct sdp support from ti with x-loader upstream | 18:09 |
| GrueMaster | Cool | 18:09 |
| rsalveti | oh, sorry, at least x-loader needs to be a different binary | 18:09 |
| rsalveti | because of the hardware id | 18:09 |
| GrueMaster | It can't auto-detect? | 18:10 |
| rsalveti | it could be the same binary, but then it'd need a way to identify the hardware before actually initializing it | 18:10 |
| rsalveti | hrw: the x-loader you were using is a quite old one | 18:20 |
| rsalveti | that could be your problem | 18:20 |
| rsalveti | or even a simple fat problem with your first disk partition | 18:20 |
| GrueMaster | rsalveti: linux-image-2.6.38-1204.5 working on my panda. Even have dvi output (shocking). Thought I might need a rework. | 18:49 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: awesome | 18:49 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: does it crash when you halt or reboot? | 18:49 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: please check if the sound and wireless is also working | 18:50 |
| rsalveti | if possible | 18:50 |
| GrueMaster | Didn't appear to on reboot | 18:50 |
| GrueMaster | (crash that is). | 18:50 |
| GrueMaster | Had to reboot a couple of times. Once to add dvi settings to boot.script, and another because I forgot to add the kernel version to flash-kernel when updating boot.script (oops). | 18:51 |
| GrueMaster | So I have booted back and forth a couple of times between .35 & .38. | 18:52 |
| GrueMaster | Bluetooth appears to be enabled. Haven't tested yet. Wifi also appears to have been detected. | 18:52 |
| GrueMaster | Does wifi need firmware? | 18:53 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: it needs a firmware | 19:05 |
| rsalveti | but probably already installed | 19:05 |
| GrueMaster | Ok. Might need an antennae. Don't have one handy and my wifi AP is in another room. | 19:05 |
| rsalveti | could be even the lack of proper calibration values | 19:07 |
| rsalveti | sebjan may help here | 19:07 |
| sebjan | GrueMaster: the wlan firmware coming with the linux-firmware package is the good one. | 19:10 |
| sebjan | for calibration: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/wl12xx#Calibration | 19:10 |
| sebjan | (did not try that myself yet) | 19:10 |
| GrueMaster | sebjan: ok, will check in a sec. Trying to get audio now. | 19:11 |
| sebjan | GrueMaster: for WLAN, you may have a MAC address set to 0. This can hurt. For now, the best is to set a random MAC address manually (using ifconfig) | 19:11 |
| sebjan | GrueMaster: fyi, here is the way I tested wlan and audio on this kernel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577134/ | 19:14 |
| GrueMaster | rsalveti: no audio at all. | 19:14 |
| sebjan | GrueMaster: you need some mixers settings | 19:15 |
| rsalveti | hm, I think you need to set the mixers by hand | 19:15 |
| GrueMaster | Yea, I was tweaking alsamixer manually. | 19:15 |
| GrueMaster | While running speaker-test -c 2 -t wav in another terminal. | 19:16 |
| * sebjan has to go | 19:17 | |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577137/ | 19:17 |
| rsalveti | from sebjan's email | 19:18 |
| sebjan | yep, you have this one plus the record mixers in my above http://paste.ubuntu.com/577134/ compilation ;-) | 19:18 |
| rsalveti | that should do it :-) | 19:19 |
| GrueMaster | Nope, nothing. | 19:24 |
| GrueMaster | This is on natty w/ 2.6.38-1204.5. | 19:24 |
| GrueMaster | Hmmm. dmesg has "asoc: no valid backend routes for PCM: SDP4430 Media" repeated multiple times. | 19:26 |
| GrueMaster | Could be pulseaudio related though. No hw in pulseaudio. No sound using alsa tools. | 19:28 |
| rsalveti | hm, weird | 19:31 |
| rsalveti | even after erasing the current alsa state? | 19:31 |
| rsalveti | because it'll try to load with the settings with had form maverick's kernel | 19:32 |
| rsalveti | *we had | 19:32 |
| GrueMaster | Nope. No audio. I deleted /var/lib/alsa/asound.state, sync'd the SD, then hard reset so state wasn't saved. Then ran script with amixer settings to start fresh. Still no sound. | 19:40 |
| brose | hey all, is the maintainer of the ubuntu-omap4-extras package present? | 19:59 |
| rsalveti | brose: ti is in general, but you can ask the question | 20:03 |
| brose | I was interested in making a similar package for fedora-arm, was wondering if it was possible to attain the source in some manner (e.g. binary blobs like the nvidia prop driver) | 20:04 |
| dcordes_ | rsalveti: you guys keep anything platform specific in such packages ? | 20:08 |
| rsalveti | brose: I believe you can distribute some packages | 20:08 |
| rsalveti | need to check the licenses from all binary packages, but I believe you'd be ok to at least distribute the powervr sgx ones | 20:08 |
| rsalveti | the wireless is now upstream, so you don't need to distribute the firmware | 20:09 |
| rsalveti | for the video decoding part I don't know the details of the license, need to check | 20:09 |
| rsalveti | dcordes_: only the ti blobs to make panda work with all the extras | 20:10 |
| dcordes_ | rsalveti: ok I'm considering to add all the device specific things for htc hd2 in some package so people can use their own rootfs base | 20:11 |
| rsalveti | dcordes_: sure, if you can distribute this pieces it'd be ok | 20:13 |
| dcordes_ | rsalveti: it's mostly some ugly scripts for networking | 20:15 |
| rsalveti | dcordes_: oh, ok | 20:15 |
| dcordes_ | hm it's a good point. I didn't think of the bcm4329 blob | 20:15 |
| Jack87 | Hola! | 20:48 |
| Jack87 | Ubuntu on Arm sounds like a lot of fun! | 20:49 |
| Jack87 | how successful has it been? | 20:49 |
| dcordes_ | Jack87: very successful | 20:50 |
| dcordes_ | Jack87: it makes many people happy | 20:50 |
| Jack87 | on any actual mobile devices? or just some of the development boards? | 20:51 |
| dcordes_ | I use it on the htc hd2 | 20:51 |
| Jack87 | what processor does that have? | 20:52 |
| Jack87 | dcordes_, are you using Utouch interface stuff with it to? | 20:53 |
| armin76 | haha | 20:53 |
| Jack87 | armin76, no making fun.. i dunno what i am talking about. haha here to pick brains and learn | 20:53 |
| dcordes_ | Jack87: cortex-a8 | 20:54 |
| Jack87 | is there any walk throughs for omap boards? | 20:56 |
| Jack87 | any work being done on newer devices? | 20:59 |
| Jack87 | What port would best be sugested for omap 3 devices? | 21:05 |
| Jack87 | so my goal is trying this out on a nook color | 21:07 |
| Jack87 | be a great tablet experince i think with netbook remix style and maybe utouch interface | 21:07 |
| Jack87 | besides the sucker is only $250 for amazing hardware! | 21:07 |
| Jack87 | any advice would be appreciated | 21:09 |
| doko | GrueMaster: ping on bug #605042 | 21:38 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 605042 in linux-fsl-imx51 "[armel] java fails to start with eglibc-2.12-0ubuntu4" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605042 | 21:38 |
| GrueMaster | doko: Thanks for the reminder. Last week was psychotic getting Alpha 3 out. Will start it now. | 21:39 |
| doko | cool, thanks | 21:39 |
| hrw | rsalveti: it was ubuntu xloader | 22:20 |
| rsalveti | hrw: sure, but from what image? | 22:24 |
| hrw | rsalveti: from ports.ubuntu.com/pool/ directly | 22:25 |
| hrw | rsalveti: it was attempt to try other versions then linaro ones to check for shutdown bug | 22:25 |
| rsalveti | oh, ok | 22:25 |
| rsalveti | the new package name is x-loader-omap4-panda | 22:25 |
| hrw | rsalveti: alpha3 image works so far | 22:26 |
| rsalveti | it could be the case you used the older x-loader-omap4 | 22:26 |
| hrw | maybe | 22:26 |
| rsalveti | hrw: cool | 22:26 |
| hrw | xloader should die | 22:26 |
| rsalveti | yes | 22:26 |
| rsalveti | it'll soon I believe | 22:26 |
| rsalveti | well, dinner time | 22:27 |
| * rsalveti bbl | 22:27 | |
| sveinse | I got a fatal from qemu while trying to install natty using rootstock (from maverick) | 22:36 |
| GrueMaster | doko: Ok, after compiling and running the testcase attached to bug 605042 on a normal babbage image with latest kernel (2.6.31-608.22), I am able to reproduce the segfault. However, booting with the kernel from Jeremy Kerr (comment #42), I no longer segfault. | 22:53 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 605042 in linux-fsl-imx51 "[armel] java fails to start with eglibc-2.12-0ubuntu4" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/605042 | 22:53 |
| doko | GrueMaster: and installing the mentioned libc6/libc6-dev, java -version works? | 22:57 |
| doko | of course in a maverick chroot | 22:57 |
| GrueMaster | I am using the latest openjdk-6-jre-headless, 6b18-1.8.5-0ubuntu1~10.04 | 22:58 |
| GrueMaster | java -version hasn't failed in either test. | 22:58 |
| doko | GrueMaster: I just wanted to double that it still works with the libc6 package from mentioned in the report | 23:00 |
| doko | double check even | 23:00 |
| GrueMaster | I'll check. | 23:00 |
| GrueMaster | The one I have is: | 23:02 |
| GrueMaster | ubuntu@babbage3:~$ /lib/libc.so.6 --version | 23:02 |
| GrueMaster | GNU C Library (Ubuntu EGLIBC 2.11.1-0ubuntu7.8) stable release version 2.11.1, by Roland McGrath et al. | 23:02 |
| GrueMaster | not sure why the different versions. | 23:03 |
| doko | GrueMaster: is this a lucid install? | 23:08 |
| GrueMaster | yes | 23:09 |
| doko | because the version I need to have tested is 2.12-0ubuntu4. so you would have to install a maverick chroot and downgrade to this version in the chroot | 23:09 |
| doko | both libc6 and libc6-dev | 23:09 |
| GrueMaster | ok | 23:10 |
| GrueMaster | Lucky for you my system doubles as a buildd test env when not testing updates. :P | 23:10 |
| doko | if you want to check further, grab the natty eglibc, and back out the any/cvs-revert-flush-cache-textrels.diff patch | 23:11 |
| GrueMaster | Ok, I was able to rebuild and retest the testcase in a maverick chroot with downrev'd libc6 2.12-0ubuntu4. Works. Will reboot to older kernel and see if it fails. | 23:33 |
| * doko waits for the reboot | 23:38 | |
| doko | GrueMaster: ? | 23:42 |
| GrueMaster | ok, segfaults with the released kernel, passes with the test kernel. | 23:44 |
| doko | sucess! tvm! | 23:44 |
| GrueMaster | np. | 23:44 |
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