| evilduanedesign | hello czajkowski | 01:50 |
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| === Pici` is now known as Pici | ||
| nigelb | morning | 02:29 |
| evilduanedesign | nigelb: hello! | 02:33 |
| evilduanedesign | nigelb: good weekend? | 02:33 |
| nigelb | evilduanedesign: yeah, not baf :) | 02:39 |
| nigelb | err *bad | 02:39 |
| dpm | good morning all | 07:41 |
| nigelb | morning dpm, ara :) | 07:51 |
| ara | morning all! | 07:51 |
| kim0 | Morning everyone | 08:00 |
| nigelb | hey kim0, good morning :) | 08:01 |
| kim0 | nigelb: hey hey :) | 08:01 |
| kim0 | dpm: ara Morning o/ | 08:01 |
| kim0 | dholbach: morning :) | 08:04 |
| dholbach | hey kim0 | 08:04 |
| dholbach | good morning | 08:04 |
| nigelb | hey dholbach :) | 08:04 |
| nigelb | Last session of UDW was serious fun :D | 08:04 |
| dholbach | hey nigelb | 08:05 |
| dholbach | great to hear :-) | 08:05 |
| dpm | good morning ara, nigelb, kim0, dholbach! | 08:05 |
| nigelb | I guess we can have that on *weeks/days from now on | 08:05 |
| dholbach | hola dpm | 08:05 |
| === m4n1sh-ic is now known as m4n1sh | ||
| czajkowski | Aloha | 09:15 |
| nigelb | Morning czajkowski. Haven't seen you around in a while! | 09:15 |
| AlanBell | "Nothing hugs quite like dholbach, though, and he’s no hairy ape." | 09:45 |
| dholbach | AlanBell, yeah :) | 09:45 |
| nigelb | where is that from? haha | 09:45 |
| dholbach | Mark's announce of "O" | 09:45 |
| AlanBell | http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/646 | 09:45 |
| nigelb | aah | 09:45 |
| nigelb | I agree with the statement though :P | 09:46 |
| nigelb | AlanBell: I'm still on adrenaline rush from lighting talks :p | 09:46 |
| vish | haha! "Nothing hugs quite like dholbach, though, and he’s no hairy ape." | 11:28 |
| evilduanedesign | morning all | 12:05 |
| nigelb | hey duanedesign | 12:05 |
| evilduanedesign | hello mr nigel | 12:06 |
| evilduanedesign | i had a good night last night helping people in #ubuntu-beginners :) | 12:06 |
| nigelb | :) | 12:07 |
| evilduanedesign | I had a run on problems I could actually help with :) | 12:07 |
| nigelb | thats a very satisfying feeling | 12:07 |
| evilduanedesign | it is nice | 12:07 |
| evilduanedesign | you still trying out ircccloud | 12:08 |
| evilduanedesign | nigelb: ^ | 12:08 |
| nigelb | oh, where's nigel-cloud | 12:08 |
| nigelb | evilduanedesign: I liked it, but I'm toying with the idea of cost | 12:09 |
| evilduanedesign | nigelb: on the free account it disconnects after two days of inactivity | 12:09 |
| nigelb | oh, no wonder | 12:09 |
| nigelb | evilduanedesign: I like having a server | 12:09 |
| daker | i really want to test it, but i am still waiting for an invitation | 12:09 |
| evilduanedesign | yeah, me too | 12:09 |
| evilduanedesign | nigelb: I have a VPS. As soon as I have the money though I want a physical server | 12:10 |
| nigelb | evilduanedesign: I have a cloud server from RS. I' like it so far. | 12:10 |
| evilduanedesign | awesome, I got a message from a user I helped last night | 12:26 |
| evilduanedesign | I just check the dansguardian and it WORKS!:) i logged in the guest account and viola its there blocking any inapproiate material loading onto the screen. | 12:26 |
| evilduanedesign | \o/ | 12:26 |
| nigelb | win :) | 12:26 |
| evilduanedesign | though the process is a bit of a chore for the average user | 12:27 |
| nigelb | evilduanedesign: we should have docs for that | 12:27 |
| evilduanedesign | it is a process that needs a wrapper application. Something like what doctormo's groundcontrol does for launchpad | 12:27 |
| nigelb | and for setting up a lib computer or something | 12:28 |
| evilduanedesign | nigelb: bodhizazen has a good guide. That is where i learned to do it. http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/web-content-filtering-made-easy/ | 12:29 |
| evilduanedesign | would be a good idea to check the wiki though and make sure. If not would be easy to make a page from bodhi's guide | 12:30 |
| nigelb | evilduanedesign: that one and how to set up tings like temporary sessions controlled from one computer would be very helpful for a lot of places | 12:32 |
| dholbach | popey, oneiric is going to be awesome | 12:54 |
| czajkowski | only if we can pronounce it | 12:55 |
| * czajkowski wonders what goes through that lads head when he comes up with names | 12:55 | |
| czajkowski | *mutters* | 12:55 |
| nigelb | +1 | 12:55 |
| dholbach | click on "listen" on http://translate.google.com/#en|en|oneiric - is that how it's pronounced? | 12:56 |
| AlanBell | the IPA for Onirology is /ɒnɨˈrɒlədʒi/ | 13:07 |
| jcastro | I tell you how I am going to pronounce it | 13:08 |
| jcastro | one-rick | 13:08 |
| dholbach | jcastro: I guess popey will pronounce it "o-ze-lot" :) | 13:09 |
| AlanBell | "on air ick" I think is correct | 13:09 |
| popey | ooze-lot | 13:09 |
| nigelb | jcastro: with background of rickroll? ;) | 13:10 |
| dholbach | I'll take the dog for a walk now, call mvo and practise the pronunciation :) | 13:10 |
| dholbach | see you later | 13:10 |
| AlanBell | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/oneiric#Related_terms loving these | 13:17 |
| === IdleOne is now known as OneiricOne | ||
| === OneiricOne is now known as IdleOne | ||
| AlanBell | OneiricOne \o/ | 13:51 |
| IdleOne | :) | 13:51 |
| IdleOne | thinking maybe I need to group DreamyOne also | 13:52 |
| IdleOne | I have a feeling we will be referring to 11.10 as Dreamy | 13:52 |
| IdleOne | Good morning btw | 13:54 |
| akgraner | first I had to learn to say "Aubergine" correctly now I it's "Oneiric Ocelot" seriously..who enjoys torturing the redneck...:-P | 14:22 |
| czajkowski | lol | 14:23 |
| czajkowski | akgraner: Amry wives came back last night!!!!!!!! | 14:23 |
| akgraner | I haven't watched it yet | 14:23 |
| czajkowski | me neither | 14:23 |
| akgraner | gotta get caught up, and I head to PyCon on Friday so who knows when I'll get to watch it | 14:24 |
| IdleOne | akgraner: don't feel bad I am still working on pronouncing czajkowski properly | 14:24 |
| jcastro | IdleOne: I just go with "laura" | 14:24 |
| akgraner | I gave up on that one | 14:24 |
| akgraner | unless I am "drankin" in which case I usually get it right ;-P | 14:25 |
| JFo | cz<tab> | 14:25 |
| IdleOne | JFo: thank goodness for tab completion | 14:25 |
| JFo | indeed | 14:25 |
| AlanBell | Tchaikovsky | 14:25 |
| AlanBell | I did once very nearly order a taxi for "Miss C.Z. Tabb" | 14:26 |
| IdleOne | haha | 14:26 |
| * czajkowski frowns | 14:26 | |
| czajkowski | yer lucky I like ye guys! | 14:27 |
| * czajkowski pokes JFo and AlanBell | 14:27 | |
| czajkowski | cheeky buggers! | 14:27 |
| JFo | :) | 14:27 |
| * AlanBell will now be on best behavior | 14:27 | |
| czajkowski | akgraner: aye see you later mister | 14:27 |
| * AlanBell will be in poking range in a few hours | 14:27 | |
| AlanBell | fail! | 14:27 |
| akgraner | czajkowski, laters | 14:28 |
| czajkowski | toodles | 14:28 |
| jcastro | WOO my new thinkpad is here! | 15:11 |
| czajkowski | new toy | 15:12 |
| popey | oooooo | 15:14 |
| popey | which one? | 15:14 |
| jcastro | X120E | 15:16 |
| popey | I spy jcastro in http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/reviews/2011/03/ars-reviews-the-motorola-xoom.ars/6 | 15:19 |
| jcastro | heh | 15:19 |
| czajkowski | it's times like that, you really hope you've a good picture and aren't doing anything dodgey! | 15:21 |
| jcastro | I've trolled people that way before | 15:21 |
| jcastro | when doing an IM thing once we put "Soandso just whines on twitter." | 15:22 |
| jcastro | soandso being another writer on the site | 15:22 |
| czajkowski | nods | 15:23 |
| kim0 | jcastro: woohoo :) | 15:30 |
| * kim0 googling specs | 15:30 | |
| jcastro | man, even the alternative installer does geoip thing for the timezone | 15:31 |
| jcastro | SO nice | 15:31 |
| nigelb | go give cjwatson a hug :) | 15:31 |
| nigelb | (isn't he one of the persons behind debian installer?) | 15:31 |
| kim0 | hehe | 15:31 |
| jcastro | well I knew the normal installer had it, not the alt. | 15:31 |
| jcastro | nice love for the alt-installer diehards like myself | 15:32 |
| nigelb | hehe | 15:32 |
| popey | s/diehards/crusty old folks/g | 15:33 |
| jcastro | it's nontrivial to do normal installer via PXE | 15:34 |
| popey | indeed | 15:35 |
| jcastro | popey: I PXE install using the same squid-deb-proxy machine so my installs take very very little time | 15:35 |
| popey | neat! | 15:35 |
| popey | write that up! :) | 15:35 |
| * popey asks on au | 15:35 | |
| jcastro | you just input the proxy address in the installer | 15:35 |
| jcastro | since the alt installer is geeky it actually asks you where your proxy is | 15:35 |
| nigelb | jcastro: neat. | 15:36 |
| czajkowski | can I just say, KDE, is pure evil and I HATE IT!!! | 15:36 |
| * czajkowski goes back to cleaning her inbox | 15:37 | |
| jcastro | kim0: we need a cloud/Ubuntu version of this: http://boot.kernel.org/ | 15:37 |
| popey | http://askubuntu.com/questions/29406/multiple-network-installs-with-cached-downloads | 15:37 |
| kim0 | jcastro: doesn't it support ubuntu today already | 15:38 |
| * kim0 checking | 15:38 | |
| jcastro | popey: so basically "rewrite every PXE install howto on the web" | 15:38 |
| kim0 | gah fedora but not ubuntu | 15:38 |
| jcastro | kim0: yeah but something cooler than that, that page looks :( | 15:38 |
| nigelb | Also, we need to have a good guide on parental controls. I wonder if I should just ask it on askubuntu.com | 15:39 |
| jcastro | a nice 5 meg usb image + boot.ubuntu.com = ftw. | 15:39 |
| nigelb | +1 | 15:39 |
| kim0 | I'm interested :) | 15:39 |
| jcastro | kim0: but those are just dreams | 15:39 |
| jcastro | I am full of dreams | 15:39 |
| jcastro | time and skill to do that sort of thing, not so much. | 15:39 |
| kim0 | hehe | 15:39 |
| nigelb | jcastro: but someone listening to you might just build it | 15:40 |
| * nigelb looks at mhall119 ;) | 15:40 | |
| jcastro | popey: I suspect you'll need to find a PXE server install howto that is out there and available on CC and then copy it and fix it up as an answer | 15:41 |
| jcastro | popey: or whatever surely to be out of date junk is on the wiki | 15:41 |
| popey | well thats kinda my point | 15:41 |
| popey | every PXE how-to I find is broken | 15:41 |
| jcastro | I am starting to hope/wish that we delete the wiki | 15:41 |
| mhall119 | nigelb: the edubuntu team probably has some good parental control info | 15:41 |
| jcastro | right, but you need something to start on | 15:41 |
| jcastro | popey: I'm saying steal n' copy | 15:41 |
| jcastro | then edit to make better | 15:42 |
| popey | hmm | 15:42 |
| nigelb | mhall119: ah yes. evilduanedesign and I were plotting earlier today | 15:42 |
| popey | I'll probably take a look at doing just that on my home server | 15:42 |
| nigelb | mhall119: to write better documentation for that | 15:42 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: who did the django cloudinit demo at UDS-N? | 15:42 |
| jcastro | kirkland? | 15:42 |
| jcastro | was it the joke one with the narwhal song? | 15:43 |
| mhall119 | I think so | 15:43 |
| mhall119 | I was more interested in the cloudinit script itself | 15:43 |
| jcastro | yeah kirkland | 15:43 |
| mhall119 | I want to make it available, and similar ones for wordpress and drupal too | 15:43 |
| mhall119 | maybe integrate it into 10.cloud.ubuntu.com so you can say "Give me a Wordpress site in teh cloud", or "Give me a Django-powered site in the cloud" | 15:44 |
| jcastro | yep | 15:46 |
| * mhall119 is making a list | 15:46 | |
| evilduanedesign | nigelb: what were you thinking, a list of different guides availlable? | 15:46 |
| nigelb | evilduanedesign: or probably going in and updating the wiki | 15:46 |
| nigelb | evilduanedesign: fix wwhat's broken sounds much better than go create a whole new thing | 15:47 |
| evilduanedesign | nigelb: definelty | 15:47 |
| evilduanedesign | nigelb: I put that on my todo list last night. Ill take a look. What I was working on now is not progressing :) | 15:48 |
| nigelb | evilduanedesign: heh, I'll help you. I have a personal mess to sort and then I'll pitch in. | 15:48 |
| evilduanedesign | cool | 15:49 |
| jono | kim0, all set? | 16:01 |
| kim0 | jono: just moment .. was rebooting | 16:01 |
| jono | kim0, np | 16:01 |
| kim0 | jono: ready | 16:04 |
| === maco2 is now known as maco | ||
| jcastro | oh fail, I installed 10.10 on it and didn't even notice until I booted it up | 16:20 |
| dholbach | jcastro, upgrade testing FTW :) | 16:21 |
| popey | :) | 16:23 |
| * popey polishes the silver lining on jcastro's cloud | 16:23 | |
| * AlanBell heads off to an evening with the lovely RMS and the completely insane czajkowski | 16:37 | |
| JFo | hahaha | 16:37 |
| evilduanedesign | nigelb: I set up an etherpad to use as a dump for info to get started http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/mp9hEFnuh5 | 16:39 |
| nigelb | w00t | 16:39 |
| popey | AlanBell: record an interview with him for me :) | 16:41 |
| AlanBell | Do you have questions? | 16:46 |
| AlanBell | And do you know any command line audio recording application | 16:47 |
| AlanBell | The olpc does not have the power to run audacity | 16:49 |
| popey | uhm | 16:54 |
| popey | arecord -f cd -t raw | oggenc - -r -o out.ogg | 16:55 |
| popey | maybe | 16:55 |
| === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach | ||
| mhall119 | kim0: are you still seeing kim02 on LD? | 17:23 |
| dholbach | jono, 7m? | 17:23 |
| jono | dholbach, yup | 17:23 |
| dholbach | rock | 17:24 |
| Technovi1ing | ok, thought Oneiric Ocelot was joke when I first heard it | 17:29 |
| dholbach | jono, skype? | 17:30 |
| jono | dholbach, let's roll | 17:30 |
| dholbach | alright my friends - time to call it a day :-D | 17:38 |
| dholbach | see you all tomorrow | 17:38 |
| dholbach | hugs | 17:38 |
| jcastro | JFo: man I found a brutal kernel crasher on my new laptop, I'll holla at you after my call | 18:52 |
| jcastro | JFo: the kernel "omg it's crashed" thing asks me a question but it's a blank window with 2 buttons, seen that before? | 18:53 |
| JFo | um, no | 18:58 |
| JFo | hmmm | 18:58 |
| JFo | frankly that is an odd thing | 18:59 |
| jcastro | after my call I'll stop by your channel | 18:59 |
| JFo | ok | 18:59 |
| jcastro | maybe there's a hw enablement guy around | 18:59 |
| jcastro | is there a hardware enablement irc or is it all -kernel? | 18:59 |
| JFo | there is one, but due to nda it is on the private server | 19:00 |
| jcastro | :( | 19:00 |
| JFo | yeah | 19:00 |
| JFo | :-/ | 19:00 |
| JFo | most of the guys should be in #u-k though | 19:00 |
| jcastro | well, my bug will help all x120e owners in the end | 19:00 |
| jcastro | jono: all set! | 19:00 |
| jono | jcastro, one sec | 19:01 |
| doctormo | jono: Has the 11.10 name been announced? | 20:27 |
| doctormo | Only I see the headline on OMG (which is offline atm) and no news anywhere else. | 20:27 |
| Pici | !11.10 | 20:27 |
| ubot2 | Error: unresolvable <alias> to oneric | 20:27 |
| Pici | ugh, spelling | 20:27 |
| mhall119 | doctormo: yes, sabdfl announced it on his blog | 20:29 |
| Pici | Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu. Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=646 | 20:29 |
| Pici | Now if the bot will listen to me, I'll get that properly setup as a factoid. | 20:30 |
| sense | oneric will probably cause less spelling mistakes than intrepid, but more than natty :) | 20:30 |
| mhall119 | sense: oh the irony | 20:31 |
| jcastro | hey mhall119 | 20:31 |
| jcastro | you're familiar with summit right? | 20:31 |
| Pici | sense: More or less than feisty though? | 20:31 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: I'd better be | 20:31 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: that is to say, yes, I'm familiar | 20:32 |
| sense | Pici: the two juxtapositioned vowels in feisty are more problematic than oneric, right? | 20:32 |
| jcastro | mhall119: ok scale of 1 to 10, how hard would it be to publish a CSV of the schedule on a regular basis, like hourly or something | 20:32 |
| mhall119 | sense: oneIric | 20:32 |
| Pici | sense: Well, perhaps not, at least most people have heard the word 'feisty' before. | 20:32 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: not too hard | 20:33 |
| mhall119 | why csv? | 20:33 |
| jcastro | http://conventionist.com/ | 20:33 |
| jcastro | davidm saw they used this at scale | 20:33 |
| jcastro | and it worked great, and all he needs is a CSV of the schedule to make this work for UDS | 20:33 |
| mhall119 | okay, we can do that | 20:34 |
| mhall119 | is csv the only option? | 20:34 |
| sense | Pici: oneric does sound a lot more like it is spelled, feisty not. | 20:34 |
| sense | jcastro: UDS app! Cool. | 20:34 |
| jcastro | mhall119: let me see | 20:34 |
| mhall119 | sense: you've been spelling it wrong for the past 5 minutes | 20:34 |
| Pici | sense: Except that the codename is oneiric, not oneric | 20:34 |
| * sense runs away | 20:35 | |
| mhall119 | lol | 20:35 |
| * sense is not here! | 20:35 | |
| sense | Two consecutive vowels again! | 20:35 |
| sense | That is problematic indeed. | 20:35 |
| doctormo | sense: I presume it's pronounced on-eric? | 20:35 |
| sense | doctormo: You're the native speaker, not me! | 20:35 |
| mhall119 | own-eye-rick | 20:35 |
| jcastro | mhall119: I've asked davidm to join us here | 20:36 |
| jcastro | he's been talking to the founders or something | 20:36 |
| doctormo | mhall119: really? they really did a hatchet job on that spelling. | 20:36 |
| mhall119 | doctormo: it's greek | 20:36 |
| doctormo | mhall119: It's greek, in roman letters ;-) | 20:36 |
| mhall119 | which, of course, doesn't use our alphabet at all | 20:36 |
| mhall119 | doctormo: used in English, spoken by Americans | 20:36 |
| mhall119 | what could possibly go wrong? | 20:37 |
| sense | English only has so many words because it has taken half the Ancient Greek and Latin words and made it its own. | 20:37 |
| doctormo | sense: And some celtic, norse, chinese, indian and a bit of bastard french too. | 20:37 |
| mhall119 | yeah, took a bunch of germanic ones too | 20:37 |
| Pici | oneiric: Of, relating to, or characterizing the clinical state of oneirophrenia; oneirophrenia: A mental state that is characterized by hallucinations and other disturbances and is associated with prolonged deprivation of sleep, sensory isolation, or psychoactive drugs. | 20:38 |
| sense | We do the same with English words and make horrible bastardised things of it: "gedeletet' is a proper conjugated verb. It looks ugly in both Dutch and English. | 20:38 |
| mhall119 | English, the klemtomaniac of languages | 20:38 |
| sense | Pici: That is not possitive! | 20:38 |
| Pici | sense: It describes software development | 20:38 |
| mhall119 | sense: the more generic meaning is "of or pertaining to dreams or dream-like states" | 20:38 |
| Pici | Yeah, that too,. | 20:38 |
| sense | I go for mhall119's description. :) | 20:39 |
| sense | Half the English naval terms have a Dutch origin, afaik. | 20:39 |
| mhall119 | I think Mark was going for "dreamy", though that's not academically the right interpretation | 20:39 |
| Pici | At least ocelots are a somewhat normal sounding animal name. | 20:40 |
| * mhall119 was hoping for onery | 20:40 | |
| sense | I had never heard of ocelots before! | 20:40 |
| sense | Nor of onery. | 20:40 |
| mhall119 | onery means stubborn | 20:41 |
| mhall119 | and strong-headed | 20:41 |
| Pici | mhall119: you mean ornery | 20:41 |
| mhall119 | Pici: ah, yes | 20:41 |
| mhall119 | dang r's | 20:41 |
| sense | Everyone can speak a few words of English easily, but speaking and spelling it right is harder than you might think. :) | 20:42 |
| davidm | jcastro, I'm here | 20:43 |
| jcastro | davidm: mhall119 is wondering if CSV only is the only option | 20:43 |
| davidm | That is the option they are offering, but I can counter propose something else if there is something better | 20:44 |
| nigelb | json? | 20:44 |
| davidm | Remember we only have about 4-5 fields we have to export to them | 20:44 |
| jcastro | davidm: ok let's do this, file a bug on lp.net/summit | 20:45 |
| mhall119 | davidm: is there an option to provide a feed they pull from more frequently? | 20:45 |
| jcastro | and put the fields, etc. you want in there so we don't lose them | 20:45 |
| mhall119 | we can give an rss, ical or json feed for our sessions | 20:45 |
| Daviey | davidm, What is the use case? | 20:46 |
| jcastro | Daviey: http://conventionist.com/ | 20:46 |
| jcastro | they used that at SCALE and it worked well for them | 20:46 |
| jcastro | so he's talking to them we're thinking we can add on full mobile support for maybe not so much work | 20:46 |
| davidm | They are currently designing a standard help yourself interface allowing you to export your data into CSV and upload it to them, each time you change data you just send the entire file again | 20:46 |
| davidm | We push they don't pull | 20:47 |
| mhall119 | :( | 20:47 |
| davidm | jcastro, I'll get the fields we need and put them in the bug | 20:47 |
| davidm | I know it's at least title, room, start time and and I think end time | 20:48 |
| Daviey | interesting... | 20:48 |
| davidm | When we make a schedule change we just push the change to them | 20:48 |
| sense | Is it such an intensive task to converse it to CSV? | 20:48 |
| mhall119 | no | 20:48 |
| mhall119 | the intensive task would be uploading the csv to their site | 20:48 |
| Daviey | Aww, that is silly... why can't they pull? | 20:49 |
| mhall119 | especially with the frequency that rooms and times change once UDS actually starts | 20:49 |
| Daviey | seems infeasible TBH | 20:49 |
| davidm | Daviey, right now they don't even have a self-serve interface you call a human or send an email | 20:50 |
| mhall119 | yeah, definitely not feasible | 20:50 |
| mhall119 | Marianna would kill us | 20:50 |
| jcastro | what? why? | 20:50 |
| davidm | we should be able to send changes at an interval (every 10 minutes if there is change) and that should not be too hard | 20:50 |
| jcastro | auto export it every hour and mail it. | 20:50 |
| mhall119 | making her download a csv and email it every time the schedule changed | 20:51 |
| jcastro | no no | 20:51 |
| davidm | Why would Marianna kill us? | 20:51 |
| sense | Would once per hour be enough? | 20:51 |
| mhall119 | sense: for 90% of changes, probably | 20:51 |
| mhall119 | the question is, what's the delay on their end? | 20:51 |
| davidm | No why would we have a human in the loop? I'm very confused | 20:51 |
| jcastro | yeah, can't you make the system just autoexport? | 20:51 |
| mhall119 | *we* can, yes | 20:51 |
| mhall119 | but it sounds like there's a human on their end | 20:52 |
| sense | That's very inefficient. | 20:52 |
| davidm | Right now there is, shorlty the human will be gone | 20:52 |
| davidm | We want to use the new humanless interface | 20:52 |
| mhall119 | will the humanless interface still consist of emails csv files? | 20:53 |
| davidm | Can't possibly use a human interface with the rate of change we have | 20:53 |
| davidm | it will be csv files that is what they want | 20:53 |
| jcastro | so basically we spam them with csv's and the rest is their problem | 20:53 |
| mhall119 | can we get in touch with one of their developers perhaps? | 20:53 |
| davidm | not sure if email or some other way, I'm talking to them now | 20:53 |
| davidm | we can | 20:54 |
| davidm | I'm talking to the CEO directly so I can arrange a developer call | 20:54 |
| davidm | jcastro, yes exactly we send CSV they deal | 20:54 |
| mhall119 | I'm thinking an ical import on their end would be good for all of their customers | 20:54 |
| * Daviey thinks pushing is crazy.... if we want to use them, they need to poll | 20:54 | |
| davidm | most of their customers are likely to be Windows users | 20:55 |
| Daviey | we can provide the data as they need it, but i really think they need to pull | 20:55 |
| mhall119 | or pub/sub | 20:55 |
| davidm | And most of their customers don't have the rate of change we do | 20:55 |
| mhall119 | davidm: even windows users like google calendar | 20:55 |
| mhall119 | much more than they like CSV too | 20:56 |
| davidm | Daviey, I don't know why they would poll, we know when we have a change they don't we just send them along when we have them | 20:56 |
| mhall119 | davidm: because by polling, we don't have to authenticate | 20:57 |
| Daviey | davidm, this is what code 304 is for :) | 20:57 |
| davidm | mhall119, we can ask them, what they have currently offered is CSV, I don't want to pay for development work on their product, just want to contract their service to make UDS a bit easier for attendees | 20:57 |
| mhall119 | davidm: I'm all on board with that | 20:57 |
| Daviey | davidm, What does this /actually/ add? | 20:57 |
| jcastro | yeah, I say screw it and just autoexport and spam them | 20:57 |
| Daviey | a read only interface? | 20:57 |
| jcastro | Daviey: mobile clients for everything | 20:58 |
| jcastro | and maps | 20:58 |
| davidm | Daviey, do you have an android or apple phone? | 20:58 |
| mhall119 | but since it sounds like they're still working this out, it'd be mutually beneficial to both of us to work on a good interface | 20:58 |
| Daviey | davidm, yes | 20:58 |
| davidm | download their app and load the scale9x data and have a look | 20:58 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: maps of the venue? or street maps? | 20:58 |
| jcastro | of the venu | 20:58 |
| davidm | maps of the venue | 20:58 |
| jcastro | like "the room is this way" | 20:58 |
| mhall119 | nice | 20:58 |
| Daviey | davidm / jcastro: Download the FOSDEM app... for either iphone or android... that has map.... and simply imports an xml file. | 20:59 |
| davidm | I used this at scale9x and it was NICE | 20:59 |
| jcastro | davidm: that's awesome, but we can do this like right now instead of making our own app | 20:59 |
| Daviey | We could put the same resources into that, had having something FOSS :) | 20:59 |
| jcastro | ugh dude | 20:59 |
| jcastro | why do we always have to build things | 20:59 |
| jcastro | let's just do it | 20:59 |
| davidm | Has a lot of nice features for end users and we don't have to do anything except export our data | 20:59 |
| Daviey | imports, as in, silently pulls an xml file :) | 20:59 |
| jcastro | autoexporting and spamming seems like the least amount of work | 21:00 |
| Daviey | davidm, When you have your call, can you see if they will pull? | 21:00 |
| mhall119 | jcastro & Daviey: you guys decide if you want to use this or not, I can write a CSV exporter/emailer | 21:00 |
| Daviey | jcastro, seems messy IMO. | 21:01 |
| jcastro | I will convince daviey | 21:01 |
| davidm | What I can do if you all like is setup a conference call and you can attend | 21:01 |
| jcastro | since he wants less work | 21:01 |
| mhall119 | but I still think ical would serve them better than csv in the long run, davidm | 21:01 |
| Daviey | jcastro, GPWM | 21:01 |
| davidm | I don't want to mess up or miscommunicate something | 21:01 |
| * mhall119 isn't familiar with that acronym | 21:01 | |
| jcastro | Daviey: it's not ideal but if they want to do it this way then *shrug* | 21:01 |
| Daviey | mhall119, Good Point Well Made | 21:01 |
| jcastro | then they will be like "oh wow this doesn't scale" | 21:01 |
| jcastro | and then you will say "check it, do it this way" | 21:02 |
| mhall119 | Daviey: thanks | 21:02 |
| Daviey | I wonder if one day, some investment will be made in all this :) | 21:03 |
| mhall119 | all what? | 21:03 |
| jcastro | dude, we should be moving away from investing! | 21:03 |
| mhall119 | I know, let's write a webapp! | 21:03 |
| * mhall119 runs | 21:04 | |
| * Daviey chases mhall119 and slaps him | 21:04 | |
| nigelb | Night all. Sigh 2:35 am. | 21:05 |
| Daviey | nigelb, dude, go to bed! | 21:06 |
| nigelb | Daviey: well, I'm already on the bed, just my laptop is on my lap too ;) | 21:06 |
| Daviey | lovely. | 21:06 |
| nigelb | But I need to get to work at 9 tomorrow. Laters, really, this time. | 21:06 |
| mhall119 | night nigelb | 21:07 |
| nigelb | laters mhall119, Daviey | 21:07 |
| kim0 | mhall119: nah LD is now fixed for me thanks | 22:10 |
| jcastro | MAN | 22:41 |
| jcastro | JFo: | 22:41 |
| jcastro | hey JFo | 22:41 |
| jcastro | https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/715330 | 22:42 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 715330 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "Freeze after login with KMS enabled on Radeon HD6310" [High,Confirmed] | 22:42 |
| jcastro | someone had found the bug I am having | 22:42 |
| jcastro | but were stuck | 22:42 |
| jcastro | found a workaround in the upstream bugzilla | 22:42 |
| jcastro | linked it up, applied workaround | 22:42 |
| jcastro | told our Xorg guys | 22:42 |
| jcastro | man, I totally just textbooked an upstream linkage bug | 22:42 |
| * JFo looks | 22:45 | |
| JFo | way to make it happen brother! :) | 22:45 |
| jcastro | man dude | 22:51 |
| jcastro | I can't believe it | 22:51 |
| jcastro | JFo: man ... *hugs* | 22:52 |
| jcastro | I thought I was /doomed/ | 22:52 |
| JFo | :) | 22:52 |
| JFo | I wondered why I hadn't heard from you | 22:52 |
| jcastro | well, I had to try vanilla upstream kernel etc. | 22:52 |
| jcastro | I wasn't go show up all unprepared. :) | 22:52 |
| JFo | heh | 22:53 |
| * JFo hugs jcastro | 22:53 | |
| JFo | such a fine example | 22:53 |
| jcastro | JFo: it's like one of those beautiful example bugs | 22:54 |
| JFo | yep, seems so far | 22:55 |
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