[01:50] <evilduanedesign> hello czajkowski
[02:29] <nigelb> morning
[02:33] <evilduanedesign> nigelb: hello!
[02:33] <evilduanedesign> nigelb: good weekend?
[02:39] <nigelb> evilduanedesign: yeah, not baf :)
[02:39] <nigelb> err *bad
[07:41] <dpm> good morning all
[07:51] <nigelb> morning dpm, ara :)
[07:51] <ara> morning all!
[08:00] <kim0> Morning everyone
[08:01] <nigelb> hey kim0, good morning :)
[08:01] <kim0> nigelb: hey hey :)
[08:01] <kim0> dpm: ara Morning o/
[08:04] <kim0> dholbach: morning :)
[08:04] <dholbach> hey kim0
[08:04] <dholbach> good morning
[08:04] <nigelb> hey dholbach :)
[08:04] <nigelb> Last session of UDW was serious fun :D
[08:05] <dholbach>  hey nigelb
[08:05] <dholbach> great to hear :-)
[08:05] <dpm> good morning ara, nigelb, kim0, dholbach!
[08:05] <nigelb> I guess we can have that on *weeks/days from now on
[08:05] <dholbach> hola dpm
[09:15] <czajkowski> Aloha
[09:15] <nigelb> Morning czajkowski.  Haven't seen you around in a while!
[09:45] <AlanBell> "Nothing hugs quite like dholbach, though, and he’s no hairy ape."
[09:45] <dholbach> AlanBell, yeah :)
[09:45] <nigelb> where is that from? haha
[09:45] <dholbach> Mark's announce of "O"
[09:45] <AlanBell> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/646
[09:45] <nigelb> aah
[09:46] <nigelb> I agree with the statement though :P
[09:46] <nigelb> AlanBell: I'm still on adrenaline rush from lighting talks :p
[11:28] <vish> haha! "Nothing hugs quite like dholbach, though, and he’s no hairy ape."
[12:05] <evilduanedesign> morning all
[12:05] <nigelb> hey duanedesign
[12:06] <evilduanedesign> hello mr nigel
[12:06] <evilduanedesign> i had a good night last night helping people in #ubuntu-beginners :)
[12:07] <nigelb> :)
[12:07] <evilduanedesign> I had a run on problems I could actually help with :)
[12:07] <nigelb> thats a very satisfying feeling
[12:07] <evilduanedesign> it is nice
[12:08] <evilduanedesign> you still trying out ircccloud
[12:08] <evilduanedesign> nigelb: ^
[12:08] <nigelb> oh, where's nigel-cloud
[12:09] <nigelb> evilduanedesign: I liked it, but I'm toying with the idea of cost
[12:09] <evilduanedesign> nigelb: on the free account it disconnects after two days of inactivity
[12:09] <nigelb> oh, no wonder
[12:09] <nigelb> evilduanedesign: I like having a server
[12:09] <daker> i really want to test it, but i am still waiting for an invitation
[12:09] <evilduanedesign> yeah, me too
[12:10] <evilduanedesign> nigelb: I have a VPS. As soon as I have the money though I want a physical server
[12:10] <nigelb> evilduanedesign: I have a cloud server from RS.  I' like it so far.
[12:26] <evilduanedesign> awesome, I got a message from a user I helped last night
[12:26] <evilduanedesign> I just check the dansguardian and it WORKS!:) i logged in the guest account and viola its there blocking any inapproiate material loading onto the screen.
[12:26] <evilduanedesign> \o/
[12:26] <nigelb> win :)
[12:27] <evilduanedesign> though the process is a bit of a chore for the average user
[12:27] <nigelb> evilduanedesign: we should have docs for that
[12:27] <evilduanedesign> it is a process that needs a wrapper application. Something like what doctormo's groundcontrol does for launchpad
[12:28] <nigelb> and for setting up a lib computer or something
[12:29] <evilduanedesign> nigelb: bodhizazen has a good guide. That is where i learned to do it. http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/web-content-filtering-made-easy/
[12:30] <evilduanedesign> would be a good idea to check the wiki though and make sure. If not would be easy to make a page from bodhi's guide
[12:32] <nigelb> evilduanedesign: that one and how to set up tings like temporary sessions controlled from one computer would be very helpful for a lot of places
[12:54] <dholbach> popey, oneiric is going to be awesome
[12:55] <czajkowski> only if we can pronounce it
[12:55]  * czajkowski wonders what goes through that lads head when he comes up with names 
[12:55] <czajkowski> *mutters*
[12:55] <nigelb> +1
[12:56] <dholbach> click on "listen" on http://translate.google.com/#en|en|oneiric - is that how it's pronounced?
[13:07] <AlanBell> the IPA for Onirology is /ɒnɨˈrɒlədʒi/
[13:08] <jcastro> I tell you how I am going to pronounce it
[13:08] <jcastro> one-rick
[13:09] <dholbach> jcastro: I guess popey will pronounce it "o-ze-lot" :)
[13:09] <AlanBell> "on air ick" I think is correct
[13:09] <popey> ooze-lot
[13:10] <nigelb> jcastro: with background of rickroll? ;)
[13:10] <dholbach> I'll take the dog for a walk now, call mvo and practise the pronunciation :)
[13:10] <dholbach> see you later
[13:17] <AlanBell> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/oneiric#Related_terms loving these
[13:51] <AlanBell> OneiricOne \o/
[13:51] <IdleOne> :)
[13:52] <IdleOne> thinking maybe I need to group DreamyOne also
[13:52] <IdleOne> I have a feeling we will be referring to 11.10 as Dreamy
[13:54] <IdleOne> Good morning btw
[14:22] <akgraner> first I had to learn to say "Aubergine" correctly now I it's "Oneiric Ocelot" seriously..who enjoys torturing the redneck...:-P
[14:23] <czajkowski> lol
[14:23] <czajkowski> akgraner: Amry wives came back last night!!!!!!!!
[14:23] <akgraner> I haven't watched it yet
[14:23] <czajkowski> me neither
[14:24] <akgraner> gotta get caught up, and I head to PyCon on Friday so who knows when I'll get to watch it
[14:24] <IdleOne> akgraner: don't feel bad I am still working on pronouncing czajkowski properly
[14:24] <jcastro> IdleOne: I just go with "laura"
[14:24] <akgraner> I gave up on that one
[14:25] <akgraner> unless I am "drankin" in which case I usually get it right ;-P
[14:25] <JFo> cz<tab>
[14:25] <IdleOne> JFo: thank goodness for tab completion
[14:25] <JFo> indeed
[14:25] <AlanBell> Tchaikovsky
[14:26] <AlanBell> I did once very nearly order a taxi for "Miss C.Z. Tabb"
[14:26] <IdleOne> haha
[14:26]  * czajkowski frowns 
[14:27] <czajkowski> yer lucky I like ye guys!
[14:27]  * czajkowski pokes JFo and AlanBell 
[14:27] <czajkowski> cheeky buggers!
[14:27] <JFo> :)
[14:27]  * AlanBell will now be on best behavior
[14:27] <czajkowski> akgraner: aye see you later mister
[14:27]  * AlanBell will be in poking range in a few hours
[14:27] <AlanBell> fail!
[14:28] <akgraner> czajkowski, laters
[14:28] <czajkowski> toodles
[15:11] <jcastro> WOO my new thinkpad is here!
[15:12] <czajkowski> new toy
[15:14] <popey> oooooo
[15:14] <popey> which one?
[15:16] <jcastro> X120E
[15:19] <popey> I spy jcastro in http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/reviews/2011/03/ars-reviews-the-motorola-xoom.ars/6
[15:19] <jcastro> heh
[15:21] <czajkowski> it's times like that, you really hope you've a good picture and aren't doing anything dodgey!
[15:21] <jcastro> I've trolled people that way before
[15:22] <jcastro> when doing an IM thing once we put "Soandso just whines on twitter."
[15:22] <jcastro> soandso being another writer on the site
[15:23] <czajkowski> nods
[15:30] <kim0> jcastro: woohoo :)
[15:30]  * kim0 googling specs
[15:31] <jcastro> man, even the alternative installer does geoip thing for  the timezone
[15:31] <jcastro> SO nice
[15:31] <nigelb> go give cjwatson a hug :)
[15:31] <nigelb> (isn't he one of the persons behind debian installer?)
[15:31] <kim0> hehe
[15:31] <jcastro> well I knew the normal installer had it, not the alt.
[15:32] <jcastro> nice love for the alt-installer diehards like myself
[15:32] <nigelb> hehe
[15:33] <popey> s/diehards/crusty old folks/g
[15:34] <jcastro> it's nontrivial to do normal installer via PXE
[15:35] <popey> indeed
[15:35] <jcastro> popey: I PXE install using the same squid-deb-proxy machine so my installs take very very little time
[15:35] <popey> neat!
[15:35] <popey> write that up! :)
[15:35]  * popey asks on au
[15:35] <jcastro> you just input the proxy address in the installer
[15:35] <jcastro> since the alt installer is geeky it actually asks you where your proxy is
[15:36] <nigelb> jcastro: neat.
[15:36] <czajkowski> can I just say, KDE, is pure evil and I  HATE IT!!!
[15:37]  * czajkowski goes back to cleaning her inbox 
[15:37] <jcastro> kim0: we need a cloud/Ubuntu version of this: http://boot.kernel.org/
[15:37] <popey> http://askubuntu.com/questions/29406/multiple-network-installs-with-cached-downloads
[15:38] <kim0> jcastro: doesn't it support ubuntu today already
[15:38]  * kim0 checking
[15:38] <jcastro> popey: so basically "rewrite every PXE install howto on the web"
[15:38] <kim0> gah fedora but not ubuntu
[15:38] <jcastro> kim0: yeah but something cooler than that, that page looks :(
[15:39] <nigelb> Also, we need to have a good guide on parental controls.  I wonder if I should just ask it on askubuntu.com
[15:39] <jcastro> a nice 5 meg usb image + boot.ubuntu.com = ftw.
[15:39] <nigelb> +1
[15:39] <kim0> I'm interested :)
[15:39] <jcastro> kim0: but those are just dreams
[15:39] <jcastro> I am full of dreams
[15:39] <jcastro> time and skill to do that sort of thing, not so much.
[15:39] <kim0> hehe
[15:40] <nigelb> jcastro: but someone listening to you might just build it
[15:40]  * nigelb looks at mhall119 ;)
[15:41] <jcastro> popey: I suspect you'll need to find a PXE server install howto that is out there and available on CC and then copy it and fix it up as an answer
[15:41] <jcastro> popey: or whatever surely to be out of date junk is on the wiki
[15:41] <popey> well thats kinda my point
[15:41] <popey> every PXE how-to I find is broken
[15:41] <jcastro> I am starting to hope/wish that we delete the wiki
[15:41] <mhall119> nigelb: the edubuntu team probably has some good parental control info
[15:41] <jcastro> right, but you need something to start on
[15:41] <jcastro> popey: I'm saying steal n' copy
[15:42] <jcastro> then edit to make better
[15:42] <popey> hmm
[15:42] <nigelb> mhall119: ah yes.  evilduanedesign and I were plotting earlier today
[15:42] <popey> I'll probably take a look at doing just that on my home server
[15:42] <nigelb> mhall119: to write better documentation for that
[15:42] <mhall119> jcastro: who did the django cloudinit demo at UDS-N?
[15:42] <jcastro> kirkland?
[15:43] <jcastro> was it the joke one with the narwhal song?
[15:43] <mhall119> I think so
[15:43] <mhall119> I was more interested in the cloudinit script itself
[15:43] <jcastro> yeah kirkland
[15:43] <mhall119> I want to make it available, and similar ones for wordpress and drupal too
[15:44] <mhall119> maybe integrate it into 10.cloud.ubuntu.com so you can say "Give me a Wordpress site in teh cloud", or "Give me a Django-powered site in the cloud"
[15:46] <jcastro> yep
[15:46]  * mhall119 is making a list
[15:46] <evilduanedesign> nigelb: what were you thinking, a list of different guides availlable?
[15:46] <nigelb> evilduanedesign: or probably going in and updating the wiki
[15:47] <nigelb> evilduanedesign: fix wwhat's broken sounds much better than go create a whole new thing
[15:47] <evilduanedesign> nigelb: definelty
[15:48] <evilduanedesign> nigelb: I put that on my todo list last night. Ill take a look. What I was working on now is not progressing :)
[15:48] <nigelb> evilduanedesign: heh, I'll help you.  I have a personal mess to sort and then I'll pitch in.
[15:49] <evilduanedesign> cool
[16:01] <jono> kim0, all set?
[16:01] <kim0> jono: just moment .. was rebooting
[16:01] <jono> kim0, np
[16:04] <kim0> jono: ready
[16:20] <jcastro> oh fail, I installed 10.10 on it and didn't even notice until I booted it up
[16:21] <dholbach> jcastro, upgrade testing FTW :)
[16:23] <popey> :)
[16:23]  * popey polishes the silver lining on jcastro's cloud
[16:37]  * AlanBell heads off to an evening with the lovely RMS and the completely insane czajkowski
[16:37] <JFo> hahaha
[16:39] <evilduanedesign> nigelb: I set up an etherpad to use as a dump for info to get started http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/mp9hEFnuh5
[16:39] <nigelb> w00t
[16:41] <popey> AlanBell: record an interview with him for me :)
[16:46] <AlanBell> Do you have questions?
[16:47] <AlanBell> And do you know any command line audio recording application
[16:49] <AlanBell> The olpc does not have the power to run audacity
[16:54] <popey> uhm
[16:55] <popey> arecord -f cd -t raw | oggenc - -r -o out.ogg
[16:55] <popey> maybe
[17:23] <mhall119> kim0: are you still seeing kim02 on LD?
[17:23] <dholbach> jono, 7m?
[17:23] <jono> dholbach, yup
[17:24] <dholbach> rock
[17:29] <Technovi1ing> ok, thought Oneiric Ocelot was joke when I first heard it
[17:30] <dholbach> jono, skype?
[17:30] <jono> dholbach, let's roll
[17:38] <dholbach> alright my friends - time to call it a day :-D
[17:38] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow
[17:38] <dholbach> hugs
[18:52] <jcastro> JFo: man I found a brutal kernel crasher on my new laptop, I'll holla at you after my call
[18:53] <jcastro> JFo: the kernel "omg it's crashed" thing asks me a question but it's a blank window with 2 buttons, seen that before?
[18:58] <JFo> um, no
[18:58] <JFo> hmmm
[18:59] <JFo> frankly that is an odd thing
[18:59] <jcastro> after my call I'll stop by your channel
[18:59] <JFo> ok
[18:59] <jcastro> maybe there's a hw enablement guy around
[18:59] <jcastro> is there a hardware enablement irc or is it all -kernel?
[19:00] <JFo> there is one, but due to nda it is on the private server
[19:00] <jcastro> :(
[19:00] <JFo> yeah
[19:00] <JFo> :-/
[19:00] <JFo> most of the guys should be in #u-k though
[19:00] <jcastro> well, my bug will help all x120e owners in the end
[19:00] <jcastro> jono: all set!
[19:01] <jono> jcastro, one sec
[20:27] <doctormo> jono: Has the 11.10 name been announced?
[20:27] <doctormo> Only I see the headline on OMG (which is offline atm) and no news anywhere else.
[20:27] <Pici> !11.10
[20:27] <ubot2> Error: unresolvable <alias> to oneric
[20:27] <Pici> ugh, spelling
[20:29] <mhall119> doctormo: yes, sabdfl announced it on his blog
[20:29] <Pici> Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu.  Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=646
[20:30] <Pici> Now if the bot will listen to me, I'll get that properly setup as a factoid.
[20:30] <sense> oneric will probably cause less spelling mistakes than intrepid, but more than natty :)
[20:31] <mhall119> sense: oh the irony
[20:31] <jcastro> hey mhall119
[20:31] <jcastro> you're familiar with summit right?
[20:31] <Pici> sense: More or less than feisty though?
[20:31] <mhall119> jcastro: I'd better be
[20:32] <mhall119> jcastro: that is to say, yes, I'm familiar
[20:32] <sense> Pici: the two juxtapositioned vowels in feisty are more problematic than oneric, right?
[20:32] <jcastro> mhall119: ok scale of 1 to 10, how hard would it be to publish a CSV of the schedule on a regular basis, like hourly or something
[20:32] <mhall119> sense: oneIric
[20:32] <Pici> sense: Well, perhaps not, at least most people have heard the word 'feisty' before.
[20:33] <mhall119> jcastro: not too hard
[20:33] <mhall119> why csv?
[20:33] <jcastro> http://conventionist.com/
[20:33] <jcastro> davidm saw they used this at scale
[20:33] <jcastro> and it worked great, and all he needs is a CSV of the schedule to make this work for UDS
[20:34] <mhall119> okay, we can do that
[20:34] <mhall119> is csv the only option?
[20:34] <sense> Pici: oneric does sound a lot more like it is spelled, feisty not.
[20:34] <sense> jcastro: UDS app! Cool.
[20:34] <jcastro> mhall119: let me see
[20:34] <mhall119> sense: you've been spelling it wrong for the past 5 minutes
[20:34] <Pici> sense: Except that the codename is oneiric, not oneric
[20:35]  * sense runs away
[20:35] <mhall119> lol
[20:35]  * sense is not here!
[20:35] <sense> Two consecutive vowels again!
[20:35] <sense> That is problematic indeed.
[20:35] <doctormo> sense: I presume it's pronounced on-eric?
[20:35] <sense> doctormo: You're the native speaker, not me!
[20:35] <mhall119> own-eye-rick
[20:36] <jcastro> mhall119: I've asked davidm to join us here
[20:36] <jcastro> he's been talking to the founders or something
[20:36] <doctormo> mhall119: really? they really did a hatchet job on that spelling.
[20:36] <mhall119> doctormo: it's greek
[20:36] <doctormo> mhall119: It's greek, in roman letters ;-)
[20:36] <mhall119> which, of course, doesn't use our alphabet at all
[20:36] <mhall119> doctormo: used in English, spoken by Americans
[20:37] <mhall119> what could possibly go wrong?
[20:37] <sense> English only has so many words because it has taken half the Ancient Greek and Latin words and made it its own.
[20:37] <doctormo> sense: And some celtic, norse, chinese, indian and a bit of bastard french too.
[20:37] <mhall119> yeah, took a bunch of germanic ones too
[20:38] <Pici> oneiric: Of, relating to, or characterizing the clinical state of oneirophrenia; oneirophrenia: A mental state that is characterized by hallucinations and other disturbances and is associated with prolonged deprivation of sleep, sensory isolation, or psychoactive drugs.
[20:38] <sense> We do the same with English words and make horrible bastardised things of it: "gedeletet' is a proper conjugated verb. It looks ugly in both Dutch and English.
[20:38] <mhall119> English, the klemtomaniac of languages
[20:38] <sense> Pici: That is not possitive!
[20:38] <Pici> sense: It describes software development
[20:38] <mhall119> sense: the more generic meaning is "of or pertaining to dreams or dream-like states"
[20:38] <Pici> Yeah, that too,.
[20:39] <sense> I go for mhall119's description. :)
[20:39] <sense> Half the English naval terms have a Dutch origin, afaik.
[20:39] <mhall119> I think Mark was going for "dreamy", though that's not academically the right interpretation
[20:40] <Pici> At least ocelots are a somewhat normal sounding animal name.
[20:40]  * mhall119 was hoping for onery
[20:40] <sense> I had never heard of ocelots before!
[20:40] <sense> Nor of onery.
[20:41] <mhall119> onery means stubborn
[20:41] <mhall119> and strong-headed
[20:41] <Pici> mhall119: you mean ornery
[20:41] <mhall119> Pici: ah, yes
[20:41] <mhall119> dang r's
[20:42] <sense> Everyone can speak a few words of English easily, but speaking and spelling it right is harder than you might think. :)
[20:43] <davidm> jcastro, I'm here
[20:43] <jcastro> davidm: mhall119 is wondering if CSV only is the only option
[20:44] <davidm> That is the option they are offering, but I can counter propose something else if there is something better
[20:44] <nigelb> json?
[20:44] <davidm> Remember we only have about 4-5 fields we have to export to them
[20:45] <jcastro> davidm: ok let's do this, file a bug on lp.net/summit
[20:45] <mhall119> davidm: is there an option to provide a feed they pull from more frequently?
[20:45] <jcastro> and put the fields, etc. you want in there so we don't lose them
[20:45] <mhall119> we can give an rss, ical or json feed for our sessions
[20:46] <Daviey> davidm, What is the use case?
[20:46] <jcastro> Daviey: http://conventionist.com/
[20:46] <jcastro> they used that at SCALE and it worked well for them
[20:46] <jcastro> so he's talking to them we're thinking we can add on full mobile support for maybe not so much work
[20:46] <davidm> They are currently designing a standard help yourself interface allowing you to export your data into CSV and upload it to them, each time you change data you just send the entire file again
[20:47] <davidm> We push they don't pull
[20:47] <mhall119> :(
[20:47] <davidm> jcastro, I'll get the fields we need and put them in the bug
[20:48] <davidm> I know it's at least title, room, start time and and I think end time
[20:48] <Daviey> interesting...
[20:48] <davidm> When we make a schedule change we just push the change to them
[20:48] <sense> Is it such an intensive task to converse it to CSV?
[20:48] <mhall119> no
[20:48] <mhall119> the intensive task would be uploading the csv to their site
[20:49] <Daviey> Aww, that is silly... why can't they pull?
[20:49] <mhall119> especially with the frequency that rooms and times change once UDS actually starts
[20:49] <Daviey> seems infeasible TBH
[20:50] <davidm> Daviey, right now they don't even have a self-serve interface you call a human or send an email
[20:50] <mhall119> yeah, definitely not feasible
[20:50] <mhall119> Marianna would kill us
[20:50] <jcastro> what? why?
[20:50] <davidm> we should be able to send changes at an interval (every 10 minutes if there is change) and that should not be too hard
[20:50] <jcastro> auto export it every hour and mail it.
[20:51] <mhall119> making her download a csv and email it every time the schedule changed
[20:51] <jcastro> no no
[20:51] <davidm> Why would Marianna kill us?
[20:51] <sense> Would once per hour be enough?
[20:51] <mhall119> sense: for 90% of changes, probably
[20:51] <mhall119> the question is, what's the delay on their end?
[20:51] <davidm> No why would we have a human in the loop?  I'm very confused
[20:51] <jcastro> yeah, can't you make the system just autoexport?
[20:51] <mhall119> *we* can, yes
[20:52] <mhall119> but it sounds like there's a human on their end
[20:52] <sense> That's very inefficient.
[20:52] <davidm> Right now there is, shorlty the human will be gone
[20:52] <davidm> We want to use the new humanless interface
[20:53] <mhall119> will the humanless interface still consist of emails csv files?
[20:53] <davidm> Can't possibly use a human interface with the rate of change we have
[20:53] <davidm> it will be csv files that is what they want
[20:53] <jcastro> so basically we spam them with csv's and the rest is their problem
[20:53] <mhall119> can we get in touch with one of their developers perhaps?
[20:53] <davidm> not sure if email or some other way, I'm talking to them now
[20:54] <davidm> we can
[20:54] <davidm> I'm talking to the CEO directly so I can arrange a developer call
[20:54] <davidm> jcastro, yes exactly we send CSV they deal
[20:54] <mhall119> I'm thinking an ical import on their end would be good for all of their customers
[20:54]  * Daviey thinks pushing is crazy.... if we want to use them, they need to poll
[20:55] <davidm> most of their customers are likely to be Windows users
[20:55] <Daviey> we can provide the data as they need it, but i really think they need to pull
[20:55] <mhall119> or pub/sub
[20:55] <davidm> And most of their customers don't have the rate of change we do
[20:55] <mhall119> davidm: even windows users like google calendar
[20:56] <mhall119> much more than they like CSV too
[20:56] <davidm> Daviey, I don't know why they would poll, we know when we have a change they don't we just send them along when we have them
[20:57] <mhall119> davidm: because by polling, we don't have to authenticate
[20:57] <Daviey> davidm, this is what code 304 is for :)
[20:57] <davidm> mhall119, we can ask them, what they have currently offered is CSV, I don't want to pay for development work on their product, just want to contract their service to make UDS a bit easier for attendees
[20:57] <mhall119> davidm: I'm all on board with that
[20:57] <Daviey> davidm, What does this /actually/ add?
[20:57] <jcastro> yeah, I say screw it and just autoexport and spam them
[20:57] <Daviey> a read only interface?
[20:58] <jcastro> Daviey: mobile clients for everything
[20:58] <jcastro> and maps
[20:58] <davidm> Daviey, do you have an android or apple phone?
[20:58] <mhall119> but since it sounds like they're still working this out, it'd be mutually beneficial to both of us to work on a good interface
[20:58] <Daviey> davidm, yes
[20:58] <davidm> download their app and load the scale9x data and have a look
[20:58] <mhall119> jcastro: maps of the venue? or street maps?
[20:58] <jcastro> of the venu
[20:58] <davidm> maps of the venue
[20:58] <jcastro> like "the room is this way"
[20:58] <mhall119> nice
[20:59] <Daviey> davidm / jcastro: Download the FOSDEM app... for either iphone or android... that has map.... and simply imports an xml file.
[20:59] <davidm> I used this at scale9x and it was NICE
[20:59] <jcastro> davidm: that's awesome, but we can do this like right now instead of making our own app
[20:59] <Daviey> We could put the same resources into that, had having something FOSS :)
[20:59] <jcastro> ugh dude
[20:59] <jcastro> why do we always have to build things
[20:59] <jcastro> let's just do it
[20:59] <davidm> Has a lot of nice features for end users and we don't have to do anything except export our data
[20:59] <Daviey> imports, as in, silently pulls an xml file :)
[21:00] <jcastro> autoexporting and spamming seems like the least amount of work
[21:00] <Daviey> davidm, When you have your call, can you see if they will pull?
[21:00] <mhall119> jcastro & Daviey: you guys decide if you want to use this or not, I can write a CSV exporter/emailer
[21:01] <Daviey> jcastro, seems messy IMO.
[21:01] <jcastro> I will convince daviey
[21:01] <davidm> What I can do if you all like is setup a conference call and you can attend
[21:01] <jcastro> since he wants less work
[21:01] <mhall119> but I still think ical would serve them better than csv in the long run, davidm
[21:01] <Daviey> jcastro, GPWM
[21:01] <davidm> I don't want to mess up or miscommunicate something
[21:01]  * mhall119 isn't familiar with that acronym
[21:01] <jcastro> Daviey: it's not ideal but if they want to do it this way then *shrug*
[21:01] <Daviey> mhall119,  Good Point Well Made
[21:01] <jcastro> then they will be like "oh wow this doesn't scale"
[21:02] <jcastro> and then you will say "check it, do it this way"
[21:02] <mhall119> Daviey: thanks
[21:03] <Daviey> I wonder if one day, some investment will be made in all this :)
[21:03] <mhall119> all what?
[21:03] <jcastro> dude, we should be moving away from investing!
[21:03] <mhall119> I know, let's write a webapp!
[21:04]  * mhall119 runs
[21:04]  * Daviey chases mhall119 and slaps him
[21:05] <nigelb> Night all.  Sigh 2:35 am.
[21:06] <Daviey> nigelb, dude, go to bed!
[21:06] <nigelb> Daviey: well, I'm already on the bed, just my laptop is on my lap too ;)
[21:06] <Daviey> lovely.
[21:06] <nigelb> But I need to get to work at 9 tomorrow.  Laters, really, this time.
[21:07] <mhall119> night nigelb
[21:07] <nigelb> laters mhall119, Daviey
[22:10] <kim0> mhall119: nah LD is now fixed for me thanks
[22:41] <jcastro> MAN
[22:41] <jcastro> JFo:
[22:41] <jcastro> hey JFo
[22:42] <jcastro> https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/715330
[22:42] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 715330 in xserver-xorg-video-ati "Freeze after login with KMS enabled on Radeon HD6310" [High,Confirmed]
[22:42] <jcastro> someone had found the bug I am having
[22:42] <jcastro> but were stuck
[22:42] <jcastro> found a workaround in the upstream bugzilla
[22:42] <jcastro> linked it up, applied workaround
[22:42] <jcastro> told our Xorg guys
[22:42] <jcastro> man, I totally just textbooked an upstream linkage bug
[22:45]  * JFo looks
[22:45] <JFo> way to make it happen brother! :)
[22:51] <jcastro> man dude
[22:51] <jcastro> I can't believe it
[22:52] <jcastro> JFo: man ... *hugs*
[22:52] <jcastro> I thought I was /doomed/
[22:52] <JFo> :)
[22:52] <JFo> I wondered why I hadn't heard from you
[22:52] <jcastro> well, I had to try vanilla upstream kernel etc.
[22:52] <jcastro> I wasn't go show up all unprepared. :)
[22:53] <JFo> heh
[22:53]  * JFo hugs jcastro 
[22:53] <JFo> such a fine example
[22:54] <jcastro> JFo: it's like one of those beautiful example bugs
[22:55] <JFo> yep, seems so far