[12:22] <dpm> chrisccoulson, quick question, is FF going to be updated to 4 in maverick and lucid? And if so, is that going to happen as soon as it is released, or after a while?
[12:22] <chrisccoulson> dpm - maverick and lucid will stay on 3.6 until it dies
[12:23] <chrisccoulson> by that time, we'll probably be on FF7 or something ;)
[12:23] <dpm> :)
[12:23] <chrisccoulson> so, the short answer is - i don't think lucid and maverick will ever get FF4
[12:23] <chrisccoulson> (but they will get something else)
[12:24] <dpm> ok, thanks, I was just asking in case langpacks needed to be updated for them.
[16:43] <fta> dpm, hi. fyi, i will promote one new lang in ch10 (stable): Uyghur, they jumped from 17% translated to 91.3% overnight two days ago
[16:44] <dpm> fta, wow, that's freaking awesome
[16:44] <fta> i will blog about it
[16:44] <dpm> go Uyghur team, go! :-)
[17:23] <fta> dpm, btw, are you an active translator?
[17:24] <fta> which lang?
[17:25] <dpm> fta, yeah, but I haven't had the chance to translate Chromium yet. No one else in my team has either. We've got a few fixes to apply, but the provided translation is quite good already, so we've just been lazy about it :) - the language is Catalan
[17:26] <dpm> Actually, I did do a few Chromium translations, but just a few - https://translations.launchpad.net/chromium-browser/translations/+lang/ca
[17:28] <fta> i see
[17:28] <fta> btw, i'm able to land a bunch of strings upstream now. http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/chromium/translations/trunk/converter-output.html
[17:29] <fta> a lot more green now
[17:29] <fta> the yellow is what is "landable"
[17:30] <fta> dpm, ^^
[17:30] <dpm> yeah :)
[17:33] <fta> dpm, also, someone reported on my blog a problem with unfixable translations, not sure what it is.. another lp bug or my converter being too strict?
[17:33] <dpm> fta, I'm not sure, I think we'd need more details to determine what's going on. Do you have a link to the comment?
[17:34] <fta> dpm, http://ftagada.wordpress.com/2011/02/10/chromium-translations-explained-part-2b/  last comment
[17:34] <dpm> reading...
[17:38] <dpm> fta, it's the first translation on https://translations.launchpad.net/chromium-browser/translations/+pots/generated-resources/eu/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=offer. Perhaps you could ask him to correct it again and watch what happens to the particular translation?
[17:40] <dpm> The "Reviewed by Fabien Tassin on 2011-02-14" seems to indicate that an import on that date might have overwritten any correction
[17:54] <fta> yep, probably, i have a rule to always prefer lp, unless it matches upstream. that could lead to a reject
[17:55] <fta> depending on the lang + template, lp becomes upstream once i land it, so it should converge, but obviously, there's still a problem
[19:35] <micahg> fta: BTW, the arm package for natty built fine
[19:39] <fta> micahg, cool. no crash?
[19:39] <micahg> nope
[19:39] <micahg> at least in the build
[19:55] <fta> jcastro, eh, seems my post about unity caught some attention
[19:56] <jcastro> great review
[19:56] <jcastro> you should do another!
[19:59] <fta> jcastro, i wrote it mostly out of despair. i really feel abandoned on the border of the road in natty.
[20:00] <fta> but i tried to stay balanced and open minded
[20:01] <jcastro> my mplayer keyboard shortcuts are working fine
[20:01] <jcastro> that nautilus right click sounds like the invisible window bug (again)
[20:01] <fta> in full screen?
[20:01] <jcastro> yeah in fullscreen
[20:01] <fta> hm
[20:41] <micahg> chrisccoulson: Firefox with unity installed but not running is not showing me the menubar
[20:41] <chrisccoulson> micahg - are you sure that unity-panel-service isn't running?
[20:42] <micahg> chrisccoulson: not running
[20:42] <chrisccoulson> hmmm :/
[20:42] <chrisccoulson> i guess that something is running which is advertising the menu service ;)
[20:44] <micahg> chrisccoulson: there are some indicator services running
[20:52] <chrisccoulson> micahg, what does the output of this say:
[20:52] <chrisccoulson> dbus-send --session --dest=org.freedesktop.DBus /org/freedesktop/DBus --print-reply --type=method_call org.freedesktop.DBus.NameHasOwner string:"com.canonical.AppMenu.Registrar"
[20:52] <micahg> method return sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> dest=:1.249 reply_serial=2
[20:52] <micahg>    boolean true
[20:52] <chrisccoulson> there we go :)
[20:52] <chrisccoulson> do you have d-feet installed?
[20:53] <chrisccoulson> you should open that and see which process has that name
[20:53] <micahg> no
[20:54] <chrisccoulson> micahg, or, this will give you the PID:
[20:54] <chrisccoulson> dbus-send --session --dest=org.freedesktop.DBus /org/freedesktop/DBus --print-reply --type=method_call org.freedesktop.DBus.GetConnectionUnixProcessID string:"com.canonical.AppMenu.Registrar"
[20:54] <micahg> xfce4-indicator-plugin, maybe that's why it's broken :)
[20:55] <chrisccoulson> yep
[20:55] <chrisccoulson> if that's not displaying the menu, then it seems like a bug with that
[20:55] <chrisccoulson> if you kill it, firefox will draw its own menu again
[20:55] <chrisccoulson> (unless it respawns of course)
[21:01] <micahg> chrisccoulson: the xfce indicator was using indicator-appmenu when it shouldn't be, devs aware
[21:01] <chrisccoulson> micahg, cool, that makes sense
[21:01]  * chrisccoulson wipes brow. i thought someone found a bug in my code there
[22:00] <chrisccoulson> fta, http://groups.google.com/group/google-breakpad-dev/browse_thread/thread/7a63182f4d90287b
[22:03] <fta> ack
[22:04] <micahg> fta: I'm going to file a few packaging bugs for the chromium tarball, they don't have to be fixed for tomorrow, but would be good to fix in the future
[22:04] <fta> micahg, what kind of bugs?
[22:04] <micahg> fta: .git and .pyc files in the tarball
[22:05] <fta> micahg, hm, no need to file bugs, just tell me, it's easy to fix
[22:05] <micahg> fta: ah, ok, great, thanks :)
[22:06] <fta> btw, i will merge the inspector in the main deb, upstream asked me to. not for tomorrow though, most probably ch11
[22:06] <micahg> fta: also, if you upload to natty first, you can create the other uploads with -sd so we don't need to reupload the tarball to the PPA
[22:06] <fta> not sure about the exact syntax, Provides, Replaces
[22:09] <micahg> fta: is the inspector a depend/recommend/suggest anywhere else?
[22:10] <fta> micahg, i used to do so, but i've been asked to do it with the tarball
[22:10] <fta> just in chromium
[22:12] <micahg> fta: you might be able to get away with a simple replaces since the other package is going away
[22:45] <micahg> fta: do you need the build logs from the arm build for chromium 10?
[22:45]  * micahg will delete the build a little later
[22:46] <fta> yep, please post it somewhere, i'll review it tomorrow
[22:47] <micahg> fta: do you want the amd64 and/or the i386 for comaprison?
[22:47] <fta> i have them from the beta ppa
[22:47] <chrisccoulson> heh, the debug symbols for chromium are huge
[22:47] <micahg> fta: k, I'll put it on my p.u.c page later tonight
[22:48] <micahg> chrisccoulson: chromium is huge :P
[22:48] <fta> chrisccoulson, how huge?
[22:49] <fta> chromium-browser-breakpadsymbols_11.0.695.0~svn20110307r77122-0ubuntu1~ucd1_amd64.deb (12.0 MiB)
[22:49] <fta> chromium-browser-breakpadsymbols_11.0.695.0~svn20110307r77122-0ubuntu1~ucd1_i386.deb (13.3 MiB)
[22:49] <fta> chromium-browser-dbg_11.0.695.0~svn20110307r77122-0ubuntu1~ucd1_amd64.deb (159.2 MiB)
[22:49] <fta> chromium-browser-dbg_11.0.695.0~svn20110307r77122-0ubuntu1~ucd1_i386.deb (155.9 MiB)
[22:55] <fta> micahg, so far, i cornered the <video> regression between 674 and 686
[22:55] <fta> still zillions of revisions :P
[22:56] <fta> it's slow to do with the ubuntu way, tarballs, pbuilder, etc.