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uvirtbot` | New bug: #730375 in squid (main) "package squid 2.7.STABLE7-1ubuntu12.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730375 | 02:01 |
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ziesemer | Why, after doing "apt-get source linux-image-2.6.35-27-server", does the Makefile in the source directory have "EXTRAVERSION = .11" instead of .27? | 02:34 |
thesheff17 | ziesemer | 03:01 |
thesheff17 | ziesemer: mine says the same thing..even in 2.6.35-24 says .8 for EXTRAVERSION. | 03:12 |
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resno | i am having the worest of luck trying to find the config file for fetchmail. ive done searches (on google and using find/grep) and nothing is turning up, any help? | 03:51 |
thesheff17 | resno: /etc/default/fetchmail | 03:55 |
thesheff17 | resno: though I see fetchmail is no long supported by ubuntu since 7.10 http://www.scalix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Configuring_Fetchmail_Ubuntu_Gutsy | 03:56 |
resno | thesheff17: ah.... whats the supported method now? | 03:56 |
resno | thesheff17: i was curious why all the guides online spoke of 7.10 | 03:57 |
thesheff17 | resno: I'm sure you can still use it....though if there is a problem it won't be patched. | 03:58 |
resno | well, the conf files arent showing up. /etc/default/fetchmail, is only for setting up dameon mode.. | 03:59 |
thesheff17 | resno: I see some saying getmail is a good alternative but personally I don't have any experience with either. | 04:02 |
resno | i dont want to use getmail... | 04:02 |
resno | ive tried it, works well. but not really the method im looking for | 04:02 |
dthacker | hello, I'd like to rerun the portion of the install lets the user choose metapackages like DNS server and LAMP server. Is that possible? | 04:03 |
thesheff17 | dthacker: tasksel --section server | 04:04 |
dthacker | thesheff17: thanks | 04:04 |
thesheff17 | resno: well I would spin up a ubuntu 7.04 and get the config files off there or try to find them on the web.....like I said I don't have experience with either. | 04:06 |
thesheff17 | resno: though the mirrors are gone for for 7.04...not sure :( | 04:06 |
resno | thanks thesheff17 | 04:06 |
thesheff17 | resno: try dapper 6.06 | 04:07 |
chrislabeard | If I'm using this webcam_`date +%Y-%m-%d`.jpeg | 04:45 |
chrislabeard | how can I also add the hour | 04:45 |
twb | "webcam_$(date --rfc-3339=seconds).jpeg" | 04:47 |
twb | If you insist, echo "webcam_$(date -Ihours).jpeg" instead | 04:47 |
chrislabeard | twb this is the full line --- streamer -f jpeg -o /var/www/vhosts/chris_ellis/wwmcd.org/backup_`date +%Y-%m-%d`.jpeg | 04:52 |
chrislabeard | backup is supposd to be webcam | 04:52 |
twb | Like I care | 04:56 |
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pmiller | kirkland`: lifeless suggests I talk to you re kvm woes | 07:15 |
chrislabeard | So if I'm doing a cron job do I just input the command I want it to run ? | 07:49 |
nigelb | chrislabeard: generally, you write a bash script or something so you can get feedback on wwether it happened etc | 07:52 |
nigelb | chrislabeard: but yeah, you can input the command too | 07:53 |
chrislabeard | nigelb: yeah I'm not too tech I just want cron to take a picture from my webcam | 07:53 |
nigelb | chrislabeard: heh, yes, you can just do that :) | 07:53 |
chrislabeard | nigelb: I have the command so I just did that and told it to do it every hour | 07:53 |
nigelb | chrislabeard: will work :) | 07:54 |
chrislabeard | saweet | 07:54 |
chrislabeard | nigelb: I set up my webcam but accidentally faced it towards the wall so all I'm getting is the wall lol | 07:54 |
nigelb | chrislabeard: haha, no script can help you there :p | 07:55 |
chrislabeard | nigelb: haha yeah | 07:55 |
chrislabeard | I'm bored what should I do with my server | 07:59 |
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twb | Why does the MOTD use the definite article for servers? | 09:56 |
SpamapS | hm? | 09:56 |
twb | On my router, I get "Welcome to Ubuntu!", on my servers I get "Welcome to the Ubuntu Server!" | 09:56 |
twb | The router runs -generic because it can't boot -server kernel variant | 09:57 |
twb | It crashes because of lack of PAE in the hardware or something | 09:57 |
SpamapS | Because there are many Ubuntu derivatives, but only one Ubuntu Server! ;) | 09:57 |
twb | SpamapS: I was thinking it was because of the silly assumption that <organization> only has one Ubuntu server | 09:57 |
SpamapS | twb: whoa.. PAE is like.. old | 09:57 |
twb | SpamapS: it's an embedded x86 board, what am I gonna do | 09:58 |
twb | it's not like the board itself can take more than 512MB RAM | 09:58 |
twb | (Soekris net5501) | 09:58 |
SpamapS | twb: the definite article is actually probably just because a non-native speaker wrote it. | 09:58 |
twb | SpamapS: what, in English? | 09:59 |
SpamapS | I'm going to guess a French Canadian.. the translation tends to encourage such additions of The. | 09:59 |
twb | Haha | 09:59 |
twb | You're not one of those .ca canonical support people, are you? | 09:59 |
SpamapS | not me.. but I am working with the canonical support, all the day. | 09:59 |
twb | Haha | 09:59 |
twb | I have this image of you listening to their on-hold music on speakerphone while you're ircing for REAL support | 10:00 |
SpamapS | twb: Seeing as I'm at the 3rd level of escalation beyond said support.. I take that personally ;) | 10:02 |
twb | SpamapS: what issue are you actually trying to get fixed? | 10:18 |
SpamapS | twb: none, when did I ever say I was trying to get an issue fixed? | 10:25 |
twb | SpamapS: what, you're just talking them for the fun of it? | 10:26 |
SpamapS | Its part of the job of being on the server team that we help them. | 10:26 |
SpamapS | twb: if you hadn't noticed, I'm a member of the canonical server team. | 10:27 |
twb | I hadn't | 10:27 |
twb | Oh, I see, you mean "I *am* the third-level support" | 10:27 |
twb | I thought you meant "I'm talking to them" | 10:28 |
SpamapS | Indeed. | 10:28 |
twb | Here, third-level support is the sales team | 10:28 |
SpamapS | Another Misunderstanding(tm) brought to you by the letters, I, R, and C. | 10:28 |
twb | Because after we struggle to fix a problem, they come past and translate from user-speak into meaningful terms | 10:29 |
twb | Like today, <customer> said the server didn't have video codecs on it, but the actual problem was that they were trying to play a DVD which didn't have the movie as the first track, and their player didn't support DVD menus | 10:29 |
SpamapS | At Canonical, level 1 is guys who can help you find docs, bugs reports, etc. Level 2 is guys who can create workarounds, and level 3 is ubuntu developers. ;) | 10:30 |
SpamapS | twb: its tough when customers decide they know what the issue is and won't let go of their idea. | 10:31 |
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greppy | it's even tougher when the vendor doesn't beleive the customer :) | 10:31 |
twb | It didn't help that their words appeared to make sense, because we actually implement this weird thing where DVDs get ripped onto the server | 10:31 |
kirkland | SpamapS: made it home okay? | 10:32 |
twb | greppy: yeh. I didn't believe you could get a TGT when using pam_winbind (not pam_krb5), but apparently you can o_O | 10:33 |
SpamapS | kirkland: yes! Just woke up from the jetlag coma. | 10:33 |
twb | I didn't believe that until I saw it | 10:33 |
SpamapS | kirkland: you mid-return or still in CPT ? | 10:33 |
kirkland | SpamapS: i'm in London now | 10:37 |
SpamapS | kirkland: Thanks for sending over that pic.. that was a really awesome day. | 10:38 |
kirkland | SpamapS: ack! | 10:39 |
pmiller | kirkland: lifeless suggested I talk to you about some kvm virtualisation problems I'm having | 10:39 |
lynxman | kirkland: how long are you in London for? | 10:46 |
quinode | Hi everybody , Im' looking for a way to launch the pgAgent service under the postgres user . I tried the --chuid option of start-stop-daemon but it won't use the .pgpass file of this user (which hiolds the password needed) | 10:51 |
twb | Whoops, just rebooted the VM server by accident | 11:06 |
twb | Fortunately LXC (and upstart) boot *really* quickly; from ctrl+alt+del to <everything is running> was like three minutes | 11:20 |
RoyK | I've seen Windows admins hit ctrl+alt+del to login to linux machines... | 11:21 |
RoyK | disabling ctrl+alt+del can be a good idea :P | 11:21 |
greppy | A friend of mine changed it to play a .wav file. | 11:21 |
Kiall | greppy, genius :) | 11:22 |
twb | The problem was we have a PS/2 DB-15 KVM, but this fucking bios won't accept a PS/2 keyboard for some reason | 11:27 |
twb | So I am typing into a USB keyboard and *thinking* I'm looking at the screen, but I was on the wrong KVM port | 11:27 |
RoyK | greppy: lol :) | 11:28 |
jamespage | jhunt: around? | 11:41 |
jhunt | jamespage: hi | 11:42 |
jamespage | hello! | 11:42 |
jamespage | I have an upstart question which I can't seem to find a good answer to | 11:42 |
jamespage | I need to start a java based process as a particular user - whats the upstart way of doing this? | 11:43 |
jamespage | (currently considering su - $USER or start-stop-daemon) | 11:43 |
jhunt | jamespage: that is currently the best way | 11:45 |
jamespage | which one? su - $USER | 11:46 |
jhunt | jamespage: su that is | 11:46 |
jamespage | thanks - start-stop-daemon seemed a bit complicated for what I needed. | 11:46 |
SpamapS | jhunt: hallo! | 11:46 |
jhunt | jamespage: I'll add this question to the docs | 11:47 |
jhunt | SpamapS: Hi | 11:47 |
SpamapS | jamespage: the - shouldn't be necessary btw.. it will suck up the login environment of the user. | 11:47 |
SpamapS | jhunt: I'm back from the moon. ;) | 11:47 |
jhunt | SpamapS: good moontan? | 11:47 |
jamespage | SpamapS: yep - just figured that one out! | 11:47 |
SpamapS | jhunt: yes, just narrowly avoided moonburn. | 11:48 |
SpamapS | jamespage: howzit? | 11:48 |
jamespage | SpamapS: good ta - you must either still be abroad or suffering from jetlag? | 11:49 |
jhunt | SpamapS: I've started to rst my upstart notes btw. | 11:49 |
SpamapS | jhunt: fantastic. I think this or next week we should try to have a bit more high-bandwidth session and get all of the things we've produced/found/edditted down into 1 or 2 documents. | 11:50 |
SpamapS | jamespage: suffering mightily | 11:50 |
SpamapS | my stomach thinks its mid-day :) | 11:50 |
SpamapS | my head hit the pillow 'round 8:00pm last night.. I hardly remember anything after that.. woke up at 1:00am as if it were the middle of the day. | 11:51 |
jhunt | SpamapS: agreed. | 11:51 |
ClaudiuT | hello | 13:03 |
ClaudiuT | the output for lshw -C disk for disk1 is "UNCLAIMED" (disk1 being a SCSI disk). Any hints on how can I mount that disk? | 13:04 |
uvirtbot` | New bug: #730620 in openssh (main) "After disabling ipv6 port forwarding does not work anymore" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730620 | 13:46 |
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raubvogel | Easy drbd question: I just created a common {} entry in my /etc/drbd.d/r0.res but when I try to drbdadm create-md all, I am told that common is already defined in /etc/drbd.d/global_common.conf. Can't I just overrule it? | 14:16 |
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ClaudiuT | hello | 14:33 |
ClaudiuT | Im trying to use VMBuilder, but I got errors from line 2: ./setup.py: line 2: import: command not found | 14:34 |
soren | ClaudiuT: How exactly are you running it? | 14:45 |
ClaudiuT | ./setup.py ? | 14:46 |
soren | ClaudiuT: You're asking me? :) | 14:46 |
ClaudiuT | no, I'm telling :) | 14:47 |
ClaudiuT | is it wrong how I run it? :) | 14:47 |
soren | Interesting use of punctuation, then :) | 14:47 |
ClaudiuT | sorry :) | 14:47 |
soren | ClaudiuT: No, it's not your fault. | 14:47 |
soren | CraHan: Try this instead: | 14:47 |
soren | Whoops | 14:47 |
soren | ClaudiuT: This this instead: | 14:47 |
soren | ClaudiuT: python setup.py | 14:48 |
ClaudiuT | thank you | 14:49 |
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ClaudiuT | I need an advice: I need to install a WIndows 2003 Server on a virtual environment on Ubuntu Server. Do you recommned using VMBuilder or VirtualBox? | 14:50 |
ClaudiuT | obvously, I'm almost a newbie | 14:50 |
jpiche | ClaudiuT, do you have a GUI? | 14:51 |
ClaudiuT | I am now trying to setup xauth and for ssh -X | 14:52 |
TB | https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/virtualization.html | 14:52 |
jpiche | I've used xen successfully in that scenario. For non-critical applications I normally use VirtualBox though. | 14:53 |
ClaudiuT | I'd go with VirtualBox too, seems the easy enough | 14:53 |
ClaudiuT | can it be done via ssh -X without xorg and other graphical stuff installed don the server? | 14:54 |
jpiche | ClaudiuT, if it's on a server and you have to have guarantee that it will start back up after a reboot, VirtualBox is probably not the right solution--it really is built for desktop users | 14:58 |
Daviey | jamespage, Do you think bug #669739 qualifies for SRU? | 15:04 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 669739 in tomcat6 "unable to setup ip-based virtual hosting due to "Bugzilla 48612"" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/669739 | 15:04 |
Daviey | (to Lucid) | 15:04 |
ClaudiuT | ok, thanks jpiche | 15:05 |
Daviey | zul, did you get my email about bug #728328? | 15:07 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 728328 in nagios-plugins "nagios plugins depend on samba" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728328 | 15:07 |
jamespage | Daviey: lemme take a look | 15:07 |
Daviey | jamespage, rockin' | 15:07 |
zul | Daviey: yep havent acted on it yet | 15:07 |
Daviey | zul, groovy. | 15:07 |
RoAkSoAx | Daviey: howdy! is the ubuntu-server packaged create now or not yet? | 15:12 |
Daviey | RoAkSoAx, uh? | 15:14 |
Daviey | RoAkSoAx, package set? | 15:14 |
RoAkSoAx | Daviey: yeah package set >P | 15:14 |
RoAkSoAx | haha | 15:14 |
Daviey | RoAkSoAx, yes, it's created.... Are you familiar with the process of how to apply? | 15:15 |
RoAkSoAx | Daviey: simply create a wikipage and apply to the DMB | 15:15 |
RoAkSoAx | Daviey: i'll finish recolecting all the packages I've worked on first and then ask for a "review" from you all to see if it is enough | 15:16 |
Daviey | RoAkSoAx, Yeah, makes sense to get your +1's in order before applying. | 15:17 |
Daviey | RoAkSoAx, Also note, it's essential to send your application to devel-announce a week before the DMB meeting. | 15:17 |
Daviey | (at least a week) | 15:17 |
RoAkSoAx | yeah i'm aware of that | 15:19 |
RoAkSoAx | i have to take care of visa stuff for UDS first though | 15:19 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #730674 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.37-1ubuntu5.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730674 | 15:21 |
Daviey | RoAkSoAx, oh yeah! | 15:37 |
jamespage | Daviey: re bug 669739 | 15:45 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 669739 in tomcat6 "unable to setup ip-based virtual hosting due to "Bugzilla 48612"" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/669739 | 15:46 |
Daviey | jamespage, oh aye | 15:47 |
jamespage | Daviey: I still can't reproduce based on the information in the bug report; I'm gonna dig a bit further into the source as well | 15:48 |
jamespage | no test case == no SRU at the moment | 15:48 |
Daviey | jamespage, yeah, i wouldn't waste too much time on it... The reason i asked is that it was marked Medium, and Fixed upstream - wondered if it was serious enough to SRU | 15:50 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #730696 in vsftpd (main) "package vsftpd 2.2.2-3ubuntu6 failed to install/upgrade: podproces nainštalovaný skript post-installation vrátil chybový kód 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730696 | 16:01 |
jamespage | Daviey: well if I could re-produce the issue yes - however I'm not convinced the upstream bug is actually related to this bug | 16:02 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #730697 in dovecot (main) "package dovecot-common 1:1.2.9-1ubuntu6.3 failed to install/upgrade:" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730697 | 16:06 |
raubvogel | Where is the mysql upstart script? Is that /etc/init.d/mysql? | 16:07 |
hggdh | smoser`, question for you, if you do not mind: why would an ec2 instance for karmic reboot to a kernel different than the last installed? | 16:08 |
smoser` | not possible | 16:08 |
hggdh | :-) | 16:08 |
smoser` | oh | 16:08 |
smoser` | wait | 16:08 |
smoser` | only possible | 16:08 |
smoser` | karmic can't upgrade or change its kernel | 16:08 |
smoser` | (no pv-grub) | 16:08 |
smoser` | it will *always* reboot into the original kernel | 16:08 |
hggdh | hell | 16:08 |
hggdh | can you gen a new ec2 image for karmic from -proposed? | 16:09 |
hggdh | I thought all kernels after hardy were using pv-grub already | 16:09 |
smoser` | no. | 16:09 |
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smoser | and hardy does not by default. you have to launch the instance with --kernel | 16:10 |
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smoser | hggdh, heres what i'll do | 16:11 |
smoser | i'll add the stubbed /boot/grub/menu.lst file to karmic images | 16:12 |
smoser | then, you can launch them with appropriate --kernel and then install from -proposed and reboot | 16:12 |
smoser | i am comfortable saying that represents valid test of -proposed kernel for karmic on ec2 | 16:13 |
hggdh | ack | 16:13 |
hggdh | please tell me when ready to test | 16:13 |
smoser | i'll kick off a karmic build right now | 16:14 |
smoser | its probably 7 hours later that it makes it all the way out | 16:14 |
jongbergs | hi, i setup an ubuntu server however during installation i forgot to install LAMP package. this computer doesn't have network connection either. can i install LAMP from the CD? | 16:17 |
jongbergs | what command to accomplish this task? | 16:17 |
pmatulis | jongbergs: man tasksel is one way to find out | 16:18 |
RoAkSoAx | kirkland: /win 6 | 16:20 |
RoAkSoAx | arrrgh | 16:20 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #730703 in tomcat6 (main) "tomcat6-common missing core libraries" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730703 | 16:21 |
RoAkSoAx | kirkland: ping? | 16:21 |
Daviey | jamespage, I shouldn't have mentioned tomcat..... new bugs appearing :) | 16:22 |
jamespage | Daviey: ho-hum - better take a look.... | 16:23 |
Daviey | jamespage, just run, run and don't look back. | 16:26 |
spydmobile | Hi Folks, I now have a new Raid device in my server, I need a little guidance bringing it to life. here is info : http://pastebin.com/baU0v4Zd | 16:30 |
spydmobile | I am very shy about this sicerver since it is live production | 16:31 |
spydmobile | sicserver = server | 16:31 |
Daviey | jamespage, [NOT URGENT] - Whilst you've got tomcat on the brain , what do you think of the fix attached to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomcat6/+bug/707405 ? | 16:31 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 707405 in tomcat6 "tomcat6-instance-create should allow -c -1" [Low,In progress] | 16:31 |
jamespage | Daviey: I'll take a quick look now | 16:37 |
Daviey | jamespage, expect beer. | 16:42 |
jamespage | Daviey: well I like the second part of the fix - that looks OK | 16:52 |
smoser | hggdh, 20110307.1 should pop out tonight on uec-images, and then you can launch with a pv-grub kernel | 16:52 |
jamespage | don't like the way a 'valid' port number if detected in the first part though | 16:52 |
hggdh | smoser, thank you | 16:53 |
* jamespage tries to think of a better way todo it | 16:56 | |
Daviey | jamespage, seems like you have similar reservations to what i thought.. | 16:57 |
Daviey | it /looks/ ok | 16:58 |
Daviey | but then i started scratching my head. | 16:58 |
jamespage | that said; do we want to refactor this significantly because that it what it really needs; | 17:02 |
Daviey | jamespage, I have NFI :) | 17:05 |
Daviey | ttx, Do you have thoughts on this? | 17:05 |
jamespage | TBH it works; and its something that should be supported IMHO | 17:06 |
SpamapS | what are we talking about btw? | 17:07 |
jamespage | fix for bug 707405 | 17:10 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 707405 in tomcat6 "tomcat6-instance-create should allow -c -1" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/707405 | 17:10 |
jamespage | SpamapS: it was really whether there was a nicer way to detect a number in sh | 17:11 |
* SpamapS reads | 17:12 | |
SpamapS | dash has some nice abilities for basic pattern matching... | 17:13 |
jamespage | The checkport function really needs a bit of a refactor (not major IMHO) to accomodate the use of -1 for the control port. | 17:13 |
Daviey | zul, backuppc FTBFS | 17:14 |
SpamapS | if you're going to call it a valid TCP port number you probably also need to check that it is between 0 and 65535 too | 17:14 |
zul | Daviey: yes i know | 17:14 |
SpamapS | jamespage: -1 means what? | 17:14 |
jamespage | disabled | 17:14 |
SpamapS | ah I see thats already checked for | 17:15 |
SpamapS | jamespage: IMO this reads simpler and feels less hacky: if ! echo $port | grep -q "^[0-9]+$" ; then | 17:17 |
SpamapS | hmm thats not quite right | 17:20 |
oneseventeen | I'm going to set up a dedicated mysql server. Would it be better to use 64-bit? | 17:20 |
SpamapS | oneseventeen: probably yes, since the only real reasons to not use 64-bits when you have them, is to save on RAM with systems under 2GB available | 17:22 |
SpamapS | s/reasons/reason/ | 17:23 |
oneseventeen | SpamapS: thanks. I'll probably only be throwing 2 or 3GB of RAM at first to this system. | 17:24 |
SpamapS | oneseventeen: right, but if you can expand the RAM, definitely do 64-bit | 17:28 |
SpamapS | oneseventeen: otherwise mysqld itself wont' be able to grow beyond 2GB | 17:28 |
oneseventeen | that doesn't change teh volume of data I can store though, just the resources the daemon can use? | 17:29 |
SpamapS | jamespage: FYI I commented on the MP for bug #707405 | 17:30 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 707405 in tomcat6 "tomcat6-instance-create should allow -c -1" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/707405 | 17:30 |
oneseventeen | I plan on creating a partition dedicated to mysql databases... is it hard to configure MySQL to use it? | 17:30 |
jamespage | SpamapS: thanks | 17:30 |
SpamapS | oneseventeen: not at all.. you may want to just mount that partition at /var/lib/mysql | 17:34 |
SpamapS | oneseventeen: but if you don't want to do that.. just set datadir=/your/mount/point in /etc/mysql/my.cnf | 17:35 |
oneseventeen | SpamapS: thanks. it has been a while since I've done any *real* linux work, so I forget how simple it can be to just mount the drive in the right place. | 17:35 |
oneseventeen | just creating the volume now on the SAN, then I'll just mount it to /var/lib/mysql during setup. | 17:36 |
SpamapS | oneseventeen: just make sure /etc/fstab is setup right :) | 17:36 |
oneseventeen | I'm hoping/assuming that if I do this during setup that it will configure fstab properly for me... :) | 17:36 |
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* oneseventeen is naieve at times | 17:36 | |
SpamapS | oneseventeen: no it definitely will | 17:37 |
oneseventeen | ooh, one more critical question... if I increase the size of the drive can I tell ubuntu to rescan the drive then use the newly allocated space? | 17:39 |
SpamapS | oneseventeen: make sure you setup with "LVM" and you can do that. | 17:42 |
SpamapS | oneseventeen: oh on a SAN you may be able to do it w/o LVM | 17:42 |
oneseventeen | SpamapS: well, teh point is the SAN can expand the volume, but the OS needs to then take up the rest of that volume. | 17:43 |
oneseventeen | basically just resizing/expanding the partition. | 17:44 |
SpamapS | oneseventeen: yeah so you will just have to run fdisk and grow the partition.. then resize2fs (or whatever your chosen FS uses for resizing) | 17:44 |
SpamapS | oneseventeen: but yes, the only thing Linux has a hard time with is resizing / .. which.. I've never understood why someone hasn't solved. | 17:45 |
hggdh | smoser, any change of genninga the Lucid proposed kernel for ec2? | 18:01 |
smoser | genninga ? | 18:03 |
smoser | hggdh, ^ | 18:04 |
hggdh | generating | 18:04 |
hggdh | genninga was a weirdly unexpected decision from my keyboard | 18:04 |
smoser | for lucid i would just say use the -proposed from the archives | 18:04 |
smoser | and then when we push to -updates it will get there appropriately | 18:04 |
* oneseventeen is just going to go with a 64GB mysql partition and hope it lasts long enough for him to figure out how to grow it in the future. :) | 18:04 | |
hggdh | smoser, perfect. I am, unfortunately, still utterly lost on which kernels need an ec2 image. I am guessing it is only hardy & karmic, correct? | 18:05 |
smoser | well, yes, both hardy and karmic will need akis published | 18:06 |
smoser | for lucid, we will continue to do that | 18:06 |
smoser | (publish the akis, but they're ont used by default) | 18:06 |
smoser | in maverick+ there is only aki | 18:07 |
smoser | err... only pv-grub | 18:07 |
Roasted_ | So I ran this command in terminal on my Ubuntu machine, gvfs-mount smb://etc/etc/etc and it changed my prompt to $. Users were trying to help me suggesting it changed something in bashrc, but I logged on another Ubuntu machine on our Windows domain and sure enough, I have the $ there too, so it's clearly not machine-dependent but something happened on the domain itself. Any ideas?? | 18:07 |
SpamapS | Should be interesting spending six months working on "oneiric" .. :) | 18:08 |
smoser | for hardy (and after this, for karmic) you should test the kernels by booting with a pv-grub kernel and installing kernels and rebooting. | 18:08 |
hggdh | smoser, so, for testing from now on all I need is boot, add in -proposed, install, reboot. Correct? | 18:09 |
hggdh | erbngeek_, hardy/karmic need the --kernel | 18:10 |
hggdh | smoser, ^ | 18:10 |
hggdh | erbngeek_, sorry for the ping (now twice) | 18:10 |
zul | hmm.....samba 3.5.8 is out | 18:11 |
smoser | hggdh, yes. but if you want to boot into the older kernel (after install) you'll have to modify /boot/grub/menu.lst | 18:11 |
hggdh | smoser, thank you | 18:12 |
ikonia | Roasted_: please don't cross post, you posted this in #ubuntu | 18:13 |
Roasted_ | you're right, I did. But I'm curious if the folk here could assist me since it very well may be a server related issue. | 18:14 |
ikonia | are you running an ubuntu server ? | 18:14 |
Roasted_ | no, but I'm curious if the users here would have happened to have ran into it prior. | 18:14 |
ikonia | ok, so you're not running an ubuntu server, then this channel isn't appropriate | 18:14 |
Roasted_ | where do you suggest I ask this question, ikon | 18:14 |
Roasted_ | ikonia, | 18:14 |
ikonia | #ubuntu is the best place | 18:15 |
Roasted_ | okay, I shall continue to ask my question in there until an answer is had. | 18:15 |
Roasted_ | thank you | 18:15 |
ikonia | welcome | 18:15 |
Roasted_ | :)( | 18:15 |
Roasted_ | :) | 18:15 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #730786 in php5 (main) "package php5-cgi 5.2.4-2ubuntu5.14 failed to install/upgrade:" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730786 | 18:26 |
panfist | is it possible to add locations to index with locate/updatedb? | 18:31 |
ikonia | panfist: it's a config file, then you run updatedb | 18:32 |
ikonia | panfist: /etc/updatedb.conf ? | 18:33 |
panfist | i see, thanks | 18:34 |
panfist | i have an instance of ubuntu server running on a physical machine on my home network, the purpose of it is primarily to serve a raid array over samba | 18:35 |
panfist | i used to have the raid array mounted in /media because that seems to be the default location for random stuff to mount, but what would be a better place to mount it more permanently? | 18:36 |
panfist | i was thinking /srv/samba/foo or something like that | 18:36 |
panfist | should i actually mount it there or mount it somewhere else and symlink it | 18:37 |
oneseventeen | have any of you mounted iSCSI targets in Ubuntu-server? is it possible? | 18:37 |
* oneseventeen has never used iSCSI in Ubuntu | 18:37 | |
pmatulis | oneseventeen: yes, ubuntu can act as an iscsi client or server | 18:38 |
patdk-wk | oneseventeen, I do it all the time | 18:44 |
patdk-wk | I just never attempted root iscsi till recently :) | 18:44 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #730817 in krb5 (main) "Please sync krb5-1.8.3+dfsg-5 from Debian Unstable." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730817 | 18:46 |
oneseventeen | patdk-wk: are there any guides I can read on how to mount them? | 18:48 |
patdk-wk | http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-setup-debian-ubuntu-linux-iscsi-initiator/ | 18:49 |
oneseventeen | beautiful, thanks! | 18:49 |
oneseventeen | one final (I hope) question before I get started: does anyone use Ubuntu in a VMware VM? | 18:50 |
oneseventeen | I'm trying to decide between the default E1000 NIC or VMXNET 3 NIC | 18:50 |
patdk-wk | always use vmxnet3 | 18:50 |
patdk-wk | and pvscsi :) | 18:50 |
patdk-wk | atleast if your on esx 4.1, don't use pvscsi on 4.0 | 18:50 |
oneseventeen | that's what I do on Windows, but I normally need to isntall drivers... do I need to install Drivers on ubuntu for this NIC? | 18:51 |
patdk-wk | nope | 18:52 |
patdk-wk | I load up 10.04 with vmxnet3 and pvscsi without modifications | 18:52 |
oneseventeen | what is pvscsi? | 18:52 |
patdk-wk | same for windows, but have to load the pvscsi floppy disk :( | 18:52 |
patdk-wk | faster disk access | 18:52 |
patdk-wk | it's the equiv of vmxnet3 for disks | 18:52 |
oneseventeen | so is that in my SCSI controller settings? | 18:53 |
patdk-wk | ya, scsi adaptor, change type | 18:53 |
oneseventeen | is it the VMware paravirtual? | 18:53 |
patdk-wk | yep | 18:53 |
patdk-wk | paravirtual scsi | 18:53 |
oneseventeen | sweet, got it all set up. | 18:54 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #730469 in samba (main) "samba not working for printer sharing with VirtualBox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730469 | 18:58 |
oneseventeen | patdk-wk: any other tips before I create this VM? | 19:02 |
oneseventeen | (system drive will be on a VMDK, but a MySQL data volume will be iSCSI mount) | 19:03 |
patdk-wk | nope | 19:03 |
patdk-wk | I wonder what would perform better though | 19:03 |
patdk-wk | vm->iscsi, or vm->disk (vmdk->iscsi) | 19:04 |
patdk-wk | guess it depends on how well you tune esx for iscsi luns | 19:04 |
oneseventeen | I'm just mounting my iSCSI volume directly in the VM so I can grow it easier in the future. | 19:06 |
blade2112 | hello | 19:07 |
blade2112 | anyone here? | 19:08 |
oneseventeen | a few people are popping in and out. | 19:08 |
laen | Nope, we're all gone. | 19:08 |
oneseventeen | but you are welcome to ask a question in case we come back. | 19:10 |
blade2112 | Just asking | 19:10 |
blade2112 | If anyone here available to help me | 19:11 |
oneseventeen | feel free to ask a question and perhaps someone will respond if they know it. | 19:12 |
blade2112 | This is ubuntu support, right? Can I ask anything related to hosting websites... etc? | 19:12 |
oneseventeen | (I'm picking up Ubuntu-Server for the first time in several months, so I'm not a great source) | 19:12 |
oneseventeen | This is the ubuntu-server chat room filled with ubuntu-server users who like to help each other out. | 19:13 |
blade2112 | ok | 19:14 |
oneseventeen | but I'm sure several of us here have hosted websites using ubuntu-server. | 19:14 |
oneseventeen | what's your question? | 19:14 |
blade2112 | ok | 19:14 |
blade2112 | I have an ubuntu server, but without a control panel. | 19:15 |
blade2112 | So only apache on it. | 19:15 |
blade2112 | I want to add my site on it, but I don't know how. | 19:15 |
oneseventeen | I don't have a vanilla install handy, but I think the default website is located at /var/www/ | 19:17 |
oneseventeen | so if you put files in there, you should be able to see them when you type the server's IP in a web browser. | 19:17 |
blade2112 | yes | 19:17 |
blade2112 | when i got to my ip | 19:18 |
patdk-wk | na, he wants something to config the server for him | 19:18 |
patdk-wk | like ebox I think it's called | 19:18 |
patdk-wk | !ebox | 19:18 |
ubottu | ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/eBox | 19:18 |
blade2112 | i can add files, html page to my ip...that means my apache server is working...but what I want is to add my domain to it | 19:18 |
oneseventeen | so you want people from the outside world to type in your domain and see the site hosted on your Ubuntu box? | 19:19 |
blade2112 | yes oneseventeen | 19:19 |
oneseventeen | Are you hosting this at your home or at a business? | 19:20 |
oneseventeen | (I ask because at home you usually don't have a static IP that is usable from the outside world... it changes every few weeks depending on your ISP) | 19:20 |
blade2112 | Now I installed the apache on my server and when I go to my ip i see the webpage and it is working as it should...But I want to add my domain to it so anyone can see the content | 19:20 |
blade2112 | Not hosted on home | 19:20 |
blade2112 | It's hosted on some web hosting company | 19:21 |
oneseventeen | do you already have the domain? | 19:22 |
blade2112 | yes | 19:22 |
oneseventeen | normally you can go into a management site for your domain (from whoever you purchased it from) to have them point it to your IP | 19:23 |
blade2112 | Okay | 19:23 |
* oneseventeen hasn't messed with DNS/domain registration outside of shared hosting... hope he gave ok advice | 19:24 | |
* patdk-wk runs his own dns servers | 19:25 | |
oneseventeen | apparently apt-get intsall doesn't work... | 19:25 |
jpds | oneseventeen: "doesn't work" is rather vague. | 19:27 |
patdk-wk | jpds, looks good to me :) | 19:28 |
patdk-wk | mispelled install | 19:28 |
oneseventeen | yeah, I was just joking about my bad typing skills. | 19:28 |
oneseventeen | took a good 2 min to figure out my error | 19:28 |
patdk-wk | I always blame my fingers | 19:29 |
oneseventeen | so do I just mess with /etc/network/interfaces to set static IPs on my NICs? | 19:32 |
oneseventeen | beautiful, just got a listing of all iSCSI targets on the ubuntu box... thanks for the tips patdk-wk | 19:45 |
oneseventeen | gotta run to get some non-enterprise (aka Apple) hardware looked at. | 19:46 |
ttx | Daviey: looking | 19:46 |
Daviey | ttx, appreciated - Clint added a comment on the merge proposal | 19:48 |
ttx | jamespage, Daviey, SpamapS: I'd rather have another option to say "disable control port" | 19:48 |
ttx | Also note that since it's in sync with Debian, it's good to push it there to keep the sync | 19:49 |
Daviey | ttx, oh aye | 19:49 |
ttx | and it's a bit featureful for post-FF | 19:49 |
Daviey | ttx, do you have a suggestion for a cleaner fix? | 19:50 |
Daviey | ttx, aye, i'd like to get it moving whilst still fresh.. ready for sync from o-series at least | 19:50 |
ttx | ah, -1 is actually something tomcat allows, I see | 19:50 |
ttx | Daviey: SpamapS's snippet sounds good to me | 19:53 |
pmatulis | does dnsmasq have an equivalent to the (missing bind9) option 'topology'? | 19:54 |
Daviey | ttx, What risks do you see with that? | 19:55 |
ttx | Daviey: none, and could definitely be considered a bug :) | 19:58 |
Daviey | ttx, awesome | 19:58 |
Daviey | ttx, fancy commiting it to debian branch? :) | 19:59 |
ttx | ah! | 19:59 |
ttx | I guess I can. | 19:59 |
ttx | Once the branch is updated with Clint's suggestion | 20:00 |
hallyn | where do we go to look over (/proofread) the natty release docs? help.ubuntu.com seems to only have 10.10. | 20:04 |
zul | good question | 20:05 |
zul | hallyn: i dunno | 20:07 |
genii-around | hallyn: Maybe https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+specs has some useful info for you | 20:09 |
Daviey | ttx, you rock... | 20:21 |
Daviey | hallyn, what do you mean release doc's? | 20:21 |
Daviey | hallyn, This might be what you want? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview | 20:22 |
hallyn | Daviey: i don't think so, though maybe. at server team mtg it was mentioned (two weeks ago) that we should be looking over the docs for accuracy | 20:29 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #460356 in sysstat (main) "sadc assert failure: *** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/sysstat/sadc: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x08b0f9e8 ***" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/460356 | 20:32 |
Daviey | hallyn, ahhhhhh | 20:34 |
Daviey | hallyn, Well caught.... The docs are stored in bzr... but essentially review https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/index.html and look for inaccuracies.. | 20:36 |
Daviey | hallyn, The plan /was/ to submit it to sommer... but things might have to be different this cycle | 20:36 |
hallyn | Daviey: thanks! | 20:39 |
Daviey | hallyn, If you generate a list of changes if you find some, we'll get it sorted this week | 20:41 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #726445 in samba "net.samba3 crashed with SIGSEGV in NetFileEnum_r()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/726445 | 20:51 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #498383 in pptpd (main) "pptpctrl crashed with SIGSEGV in strncpy()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/498383 | 20:57 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #730940 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.7.0-1 failed to install/upgrade: подпроцесс установлен сценарий post-installation возвратил код ошибки 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730940 | 21:41 |
soren | hallyn: Where are we on SPICE support in Ubuntu? | 21:57 |
mray | anyone familiar with reimaging servers via PXE and preseeds? My servers are booting from the network, but not downloading the preseed config file | 22:06 |
mray | booting to the installer that is | 22:06 |
highvoltage | you're in luck, there are countless howtos for that | 22:07 |
mray | I know, I'm following the Installation Guide and it's not working | 22:07 |
laen | Wrong guide! | 22:08 |
highvoltage | mray: how are you specifying the preseed file? | 22:08 |
mray | I https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/installation-guide/amd64/preseed-intro.html is wrong? | 22:08 |
fluvvell | mray: is that like ltsp, and using tftpd ? | 22:08 |
mray | /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default is my syslinux.cfg | 22:09 |
mray | # D-I config version 2.0 | 22:09 |
mray | include ubuntu-installer/amd64/boot-screens/menu.cfg | 22:09 |
mray | default ubuntu-installer/amd64/boot-screens/vesamenu.c32 | 22:09 |
mray | prompt 0 | 22:09 |
mray | timeout 1 | 22:09 |
mray | preseed/url=http://192.168.11.7/default.seed | 22:09 |
mray | preseed/url/checksum=d785f425373c0f11a4d8c056866db76a | 22:09 |
mray | the timeout is being picked up, but nothing happens | 22:10 |
mray | hitting that URL from a browser works | 22:10 |
mray | apache's logs don't show any requests | 22:10 |
mray | (except from my browser) | 22:10 |
mray | fluvvell: PXE booting the installer | 22:11 |
RoAkSoAx | mray: you have to add the "auto url=etcetc" | 22:11 |
RoAkSoAx | oh no that's manually enterin it | 22:11 |
mray | heck, if that works I'll try | 22:12 |
mray | I'm reinstalling about every other day, so 1 manual step isn't terrible | 22:12 |
fluvvell | mray: I'm following now. | 22:12 |
RoAkSoAx | mray: yeah I installed couple weeks ago adding the auto url thingy as I pointed you out the other day with no issues | 22:14 |
mray | I'm just trying to avoid anything manual | 22:15 |
mray | since I've got 6 machines I'm working with | 22:15 |
mray | and as I scale, it gets less enjoyable | 22:15 |
RoAkSoAx | mray: http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ServerWhole#Preseeded%20Installation | 22:15 |
RoAkSoAx | mray: indeed! I see your point. I myself looking for everything automated but I guess I'll rely on cobbler eventually | 22:16 |
mray | RoAkSoAx: check for press releases from Cloud Connect tomorrow ;) | 22:16 |
RoAkSoAx | mray: will do ;) | 22:16 |
RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: ping | 22:22 |
oneseventeen | for some reason after a reboot I can't get online with my ubuntu server. | 22:23 |
oneseventeen | interfaces file looks good. | 22:24 |
hallyn | soren: spice support is in ppa:serge-hallyn/spice. I'd like to package it but need some testers | 22:25 |
hallyn | kim0: is looking at it | 22:25 |
holmser | I am having a heck of a time setting up an openswan ipsec VPN on my server | 22:25 |
soren | hallyn: What do you mean "package it"? | 22:26 |
soren | hallyn: It's already in a PPA, so it must be packaged. | 22:26 |
hallyn | soren: right i meant push it into natty | 22:27 |
hallyn | kim0 is working on MIR | 22:27 |
soren | hallyn: An MIR sounds premature if it's not even in the archive yet. Why not just put it in the archive? | 22:27 |
soren | hallyn: Best way to get testers. | 22:28 |
holmser | I am able to connect to it just fine, but it seems that my NAT is screwed up somehow because I am unable to connect to anything through it | 22:28 |
SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: pong, sup? | 22:30 |
hallyn | soren: how do we go about that? | 22:32 |
oneseventeen | solution was to remove the gateway from eth1 so only eth0 has a gateway. | 22:33 |
RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: bug #729911 | 22:34 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 729911 in squid "package squid 2.7.STABLE7-1ubuntu12.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/729911 | 22:34 |
RoAkSoAx | your SRU doesn't seem to have fixed the issue | 22:35 |
SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: yeah... I'm thinking that this has more to do w/ running squid in the foreground than an old copy of squid untracked by upstart | 22:35 |
SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: my guess is that when squid is run in the foreground and receives SIGTERM, it somehow doesn't free resources, so the start back up fails. | 22:36 |
SpamapS | Like maybe if there are active requests. | 22:36 |
RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: yeah it is indeed complicated issue. I just hope we don't get as many bug reports :S | 22:36 |
SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: I think unfortunately, we will | 22:37 |
SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: the maintainer scripts also call restart when they shoudn't. | 22:37 |
SpamapS | So thats probably the blanket fix that will stop the bug reports.. but I'm skeptical that this will be enough to stop all problems. | 22:37 |
RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: wouldn't it just be easier to stop before upgrading? | 22:37 |
SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: yes | 22:38 |
SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: what would be easiest, would be to use dh_installinit, which implements the appropriate logic in a uniform manner. | 22:38 |
RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: indeed | 22:38 |
RoAkSoAx | anyway, this reminds me | 22:38 |
RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: in PowreNap the daemon starts threads | 22:39 |
RoAkSoAx | and powernap tracks those threads and whatever | 22:39 |
RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: however, wen I issue sudo restart powernap | 22:39 |
RoAkSoAx | the config is not reloaded | 22:39 |
RoAkSoAx | so I have to stop powernap, and start it again | 22:39 |
RoAkSoAx | what might be wrong? | 22:39 |
SpamapS | restart sends SIGTERM, waits for the pid to die, then starts the job again | 22:39 |
SpamapS | in many ways, restart is like a forced respawn | 22:40 |
SpamapS | so the threads from the managed daemon should die | 22:40 |
soren | hallyn: Well, if it builds and installs ok and debian/copyright is in good shape, all you need is an FFe and we can upload it. | 22:40 |
RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: right but this doesn't happen. So when I restart everything keeps running as I didn't issue the restart command even though it tells me it has | 22:40 |
RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: that's why I have to stop, and then start again | 22:41 |
oneseventeen | does anyone know how to list all drives/volumes (even unformatted ones) on ubuntu-server? | 22:41 |
SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: are you sure powernap is being tracked properly? | 22:41 |
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oneseventeen | doh, google knew the answer. sudo fdisk -l | 22:43 |
RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: the job:http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/577218/ | 22:43 |
SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: so powernapd does not daemonize? | 22:45 |
holmser | anyone here have any experience with ipsec? | 22:45 |
RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: it does | 22:45 |
holmser | I ran ipsec verify and ip forwarding keeps failing | 22:46 |
RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: it is a deamon (you cannot run it in the foreground) | 22:46 |
SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: then you'd need 'expect fork' or 'expect daemon' somewhere in there | 22:47 |
RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: it is there too :) | 22:47 |
SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: not in the paste you gave me | 22:47 |
SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: chopped at pre-start (actually re-start.. ;) | 22:47 |
RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/577220/ | 22:48 |
RoAkSoAx | chopped all above that xD | 22:49 |
SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: so, when you look at the process in 'ps auxfw' .. is it init->powernapd only, or are there actual pids under powernapd? | 22:50 |
holmser | when I run "sysctl -A | grep ip_forward" I get net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0 | 22:51 |
holmser | how do I change that setting? | 22:51 |
soren | holmser: sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 | 22:51 |
holmser | thank you soren | 22:52 |
SpamapS | holmser: note that you will need to make that persistent somehow.. the best way is to put it in /etc/sysctl.d/60-something.conf | 22:53 |
RoAkSoAx | SpamapS only powernap root 7418 0.1 0.0 54044 5204 ? Sl 17:52 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/sbin/powernapd | 22:53 |
holmser | hmm... even with that changed, VPN is still not working | 22:55 |
RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: so I was thinking it may be becuase powernapd starts threads and stuff that are in other files. so powernapd only instances a set of X classes, that can have threading or not | 22:56 |
soren | RoAkSoAx: "initctl list powernap" shows the correct pid? | 22:59 |
SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: It really shouldn't matter. Threads will die with the process. fork'ed children will either die, or become children of pid 1. | 23:00 |
RoAkSoAx | soren: yes it does | 23:02 |
RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: right but either way i don't relaly see it restarting | 23:02 |
soren | RoAkSoAx: After "restart powernap", you still have the same pid? | 23:03 |
SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: whats your evidence? The pid changes right? | 23:03 |
SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: oh wait.. pre-stop .. thats a known bug | 23:03 |
oneseventeen | I'm formating a partition to store mysql databases on, is there a preferred filesystem for ubuntu-server? | 23:03 |
oneseventeen | ext3? | 23:03 |
SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: add yourself to bug #703800 .. I'll mark it Confirmed | 23:04 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 703800 in upstart "restart command fails to restart main process when pre-stop stanza exists" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/703800 | 23:04 |
RoAkSoAx | soren: yes it does | 23:04 |
RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: the pid doesn't change | 23:04 |
SpamapS | yeah, restart is b0rked when there is a pre-stop | 23:06 |
SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: this is part of the reason /sbin/upstart-job doesn't use restart... its just a weird command | 23:07 |
SpamapS | err | 23:07 |
RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: yeah indeed it is upstart | 23:07 |
SpamapS | err, /lib/init/upstart-job | 23:07 |
RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: will post-stop work | 23:07 |
RoAkSoAx | ?? | 23:07 |
RoAkSoAx | or does that even exists? | 23:08 |
RoAkSoAx | :) | 23:08 |
oneseventeen | does anyone know where mysql saves database files? I forget | 23:08 |
SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: yes and yes | 23:08 |
thesheff17 | oneseventeen: I have used ext4...but if you want to be able to freeze the file system you have to use a different type. | 23:08 |
RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: i guess I'll to change things then, thanks :) | 23:08 |
oneseventeen | ha, /var/lib/mysql | 23:09 |
SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: does it make sense to powerwake-now *after* powernapd is stopped tho? | 23:09 |
oneseventeen | thesheff17: thanks | 23:09 |
oneseventeen | eek, didn't realize the time, later everyone and thanks for all the help earlier! | 23:10 |
RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: not really but i'll change the logic | 23:10 |
RoAkSoAx | i mean, what powerwake-now does in that case is only good when in PowerSave nmode wich will run other scripts to ensure that the system is restored as original | 23:11 |
SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: I'd rather see the logic right, and not use restart, than use complicated logic to enable a command that I never recommend people use. | 23:11 |
RoAkSoAx | so post-stop I'm just planning to grepping the config and if it is configured to poewrsave then run the command necessary to restore everything bug to original | 23:11 |
RoAkSoAx | s/bug/back | 23:12 |
SpamapS | RoAkSoAx: but if somebody stops powernapd .. there won't be a state to query will there? | 23:18 |
RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: for exmaple, in the config ACTION_METHOD=0, will run pm-powersave true|false when entering into a powersave start or leaving it respectively | 23:19 |
RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: the pre-stop part in upstart only ensures that pm-powersave false is run to rollback the changes, if any, to original | 23:20 |
RoAkSoAx | SpamapS: these changes are , for example, turn off the 3 CPU cores of the 4 that pm-powersave true turned off | 23:20 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #730995 in squid (main) "package squid 2.7.STABLE7-1ubuntu12.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730995 | 23:56 |
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