=== lep2 is now known as leprechau === RyanP is now known as tara14 [02:01] New bug: #730375 in squid (main) "package squid 2.7.STABLE7-1ubuntu12.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730375 === Pici` is now known as Pici [02:34] Why, after doing "apt-get source linux-image-2.6.35-27-server", does the Makefile in the source directory have "EXTRAVERSION = .11" instead of .27? [03:01] ziesemer [03:12] ziesemer: mine says the same thing..even in 2.6.35-24 says .8 for EXTRAVERSION. === chrislabeard_ is now known as chrislabeard [03:51] i am having the worest of luck trying to find the config file for fetchmail. ive done searches (on google and using find/grep) and nothing is turning up, any help? [03:55] resno: /etc/default/fetchmail [03:56] resno: though I see fetchmail is no long supported by ubuntu since 7.10 http://www.scalix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Configuring_Fetchmail_Ubuntu_Gutsy [03:56] thesheff17: ah.... whats the supported method now? [03:57] thesheff17: i was curious why all the guides online spoke of 7.10 [03:58] resno: I'm sure you can still use it....though if there is a problem it won't be patched. [03:59] well, the conf files arent showing up. /etc/default/fetchmail, is only for setting up dameon mode.. [04:02] resno: I see some saying getmail is a good alternative but personally I don't have any experience with either. [04:02] i dont want to use getmail... [04:02] ive tried it, works well. but not really the method im looking for [04:03] hello, I'd like to rerun the portion of the install lets the user choose metapackages like DNS server and LAMP server. Is that possible? [04:04] dthacker: tasksel --section server [04:04] thesheff17: thanks [04:06] resno: well I would spin up a ubuntu 7.04 and get the config files off there or try to find them on the web.....like I said I don't have experience with either. [04:06] resno: though the mirrors are gone for for 7.04...not sure :( [04:06] thanks thesheff17 [04:07] resno: try dapper 6.06 [04:45] If I'm using this webcam_`date +%Y-%m-%d`.jpeg [04:45] how can I also add the hour [04:47] "webcam_$(date --rfc-3339=seconds).jpeg" [04:47] If you insist, echo "webcam_$(date -Ihours).jpeg" instead [04:52] twb this is the full line --- streamer -f jpeg -o /var/www/vhosts/chris_ellis/wwmcd.org/backup_`date +%Y-%m-%d`.jpeg [04:52] backup is supposd to be webcam [04:56] Like I care === Jonny51 is now known as Jonny5 === Kiall_ is now known as Kiall === maknz_ is now known as maknz [07:15] kirkland`: lifeless suggests I talk to you re kvm woes [07:49] So if I'm doing a cron job do I just input the command I want it to run ? [07:52] chrislabeard: generally, you write a bash script or something so you can get feedback on wwether it happened etc [07:53] chrislabeard: but yeah, you can input the command too [07:53] nigelb: yeah I'm not too tech I just want cron to take a picture from my webcam [07:53] chrislabeard: heh, yes, you can just do that :) [07:53] nigelb: I have the command so I just did that and told it to do it every hour [07:54] chrislabeard: will work :) [07:54] saweet [07:54] nigelb: I set up my webcam but accidentally faced it towards the wall so all I'm getting is the wall lol [07:55] chrislabeard: haha, no script can help you there :p [07:55] nigelb: haha yeah [07:59] I'm bored what should I do with my server === soren_ is now known as soren === SpamapS_ is now known as SpamapS [09:56] Why does the MOTD use the definite article for servers? [09:56] hm? [09:56] On my router, I get "Welcome to Ubuntu!", on my servers I get "Welcome to the Ubuntu Server!" [09:57] The router runs -generic because it can't boot -server kernel variant [09:57] It crashes because of lack of PAE in the hardware or something [09:57] Because there are many Ubuntu derivatives, but only one Ubuntu Server! ;) [09:57] SpamapS: I was thinking it was because of the silly assumption that only has one Ubuntu server [09:57] twb: whoa.. PAE is like.. old [09:58] SpamapS: it's an embedded x86 board, what am I gonna do [09:58] it's not like the board itself can take more than 512MB RAM [09:58] (Soekris net5501) [09:58] twb: the definite article is actually probably just because a non-native speaker wrote it. [09:59] SpamapS: what, in English? [09:59] I'm going to guess a French Canadian.. the translation tends to encourage such additions of The. [09:59] Haha [09:59] You're not one of those .ca canonical support people, are you? [09:59] not me.. but I am working with the canonical support, all the day. [09:59] Haha [10:00] I have this image of you listening to their on-hold music on speakerphone while you're ircing for REAL support [10:02] twb: Seeing as I'm at the 3rd level of escalation beyond said support.. I take that personally ;) [10:18] SpamapS: what issue are you actually trying to get fixed? [10:25] twb: none, when did I ever say I was trying to get an issue fixed? [10:26] SpamapS: what, you're just talking them for the fun of it? [10:26] Its part of the job of being on the server team that we help them. [10:27] twb: if you hadn't noticed, I'm a member of the canonical server team. [10:27] I hadn't [10:27] Oh, I see, you mean "I *am* the third-level support" [10:28] I thought you meant "I'm talking to them" [10:28] Indeed. [10:28] Here, third-level support is the sales team [10:28] Another Misunderstanding(tm) brought to you by the letters, I, R, and C. [10:29] Because after we struggle to fix a problem, they come past and translate from user-speak into meaningful terms [10:29] Like today, said the server didn't have video codecs on it, but the actual problem was that they were trying to play a DVD which didn't have the movie as the first track, and their player didn't support DVD menus [10:30] At Canonical, level 1 is guys who can help you find docs, bugs reports, etc. Level 2 is guys who can create workarounds, and level 3 is ubuntu developers. ;) [10:31] twb: its tough when customers decide they know what the issue is and won't let go of their idea. === kirkland` is now known as kirkland [10:31] it's even tougher when the vendor doesn't beleive the customer :) [10:31] It didn't help that their words appeared to make sense, because we actually implement this weird thing where DVDs get ripped onto the server [10:32] SpamapS: made it home okay? [10:33] greppy: yeh. I didn't believe you could get a TGT when using pam_winbind (not pam_krb5), but apparently you can o_O [10:33] kirkland: yes! Just woke up from the jetlag coma. [10:33] I didn't believe that until I saw it [10:33] kirkland: you mid-return or still in CPT ? [10:37] SpamapS: i'm in London now [10:38] kirkland: Thanks for sending over that pic.. that was a really awesome day. [10:39] SpamapS: ack! [10:39] kirkland: lifeless suggested I talk to you about some kvm virtualisation problems I'm having [10:46] kirkland: how long are you in London for? [10:51] Hi everybody , Im' looking for a way to launch the pgAgent service under the postgres user . I tried the --chuid option of start-stop-daemon but it won't use the .pgpass file of this user (which hiolds the password needed) [11:06] Whoops, just rebooted the VM server by accident [11:20] Fortunately LXC (and upstart) boot *really* quickly; from ctrl+alt+del to was like three minutes [11:21] I've seen Windows admins hit ctrl+alt+del to login to linux machines... [11:21] disabling ctrl+alt+del can be a good idea :P [11:21] A friend of mine changed it to play a .wav file. [11:22] greppy, genius :) [11:27] The problem was we have a PS/2 DB-15 KVM, but this fucking bios won't accept a PS/2 keyboard for some reason [11:27] So I am typing into a USB keyboard and *thinking* I'm looking at the screen, but I was on the wrong KVM port [11:28] greppy: lol :) [11:41] jhunt: around? [11:42] jamespage: hi [11:42] hello! [11:42] I have an upstart question which I can't seem to find a good answer to [11:43] I need to start a java based process as a particular user - whats the upstart way of doing this? [11:43] (currently considering su - $USER or start-stop-daemon) [11:45] jamespage: that is currently the best way [11:46] which one? su - $USER [11:46] jamespage: su that is [11:46] thanks - start-stop-daemon seemed a bit complicated for what I needed. [11:46] jhunt: hallo! [11:47] jamespage: I'll add this question to the docs [11:47] SpamapS: Hi [11:47] jamespage: the - shouldn't be necessary btw.. it will suck up the login environment of the user. [11:47] jhunt: I'm back from the moon. ;) [11:47] SpamapS: good moontan? [11:47] SpamapS: yep - just figured that one out! [11:48] jhunt: yes, just narrowly avoided moonburn. [11:48] jamespage: howzit? [11:49] SpamapS: good ta - you must either still be abroad or suffering from jetlag? [11:49] SpamapS: I've started to rst my upstart notes btw. [11:50] jhunt: fantastic. I think this or next week we should try to have a bit more high-bandwidth session and get all of the things we've produced/found/edditted down into 1 or 2 documents. [11:50] jamespage: suffering mightily [11:50] my stomach thinks its mid-day :) [11:51] my head hit the pillow 'round 8:00pm last night.. I hardly remember anything after that.. woke up at 1:00am as if it were the middle of the day. [11:51] SpamapS: agreed. [13:03] hello [13:04] the output for lshw -C disk for disk1 is "UNCLAIMED" (disk1 being a SCSI disk). Any hints on how can I mount that disk? [13:46] New bug: #730620 in openssh (main) "After disabling ipv6 port forwarding does not work anymore" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730620 === ry_ is now known as ry === IdleOne is now known as OneiricOne === OneiricOne is now known as IdleOne === zul_ is now known as zul === pickscrape_ is now known as pickscrape [14:16] Easy drbd question: I just created a common {} entry in my /etc/drbd.d/r0.res but when I try to drbdadm create-md all, I am told that common is already defined in /etc/drbd.d/global_common.conf. Can't I just overrule it? === uvirtbot` is now known as uvirtbot === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson [14:33] hello [14:34] Im trying to use VMBuilder, but I got errors from line 2: ./setup.py: line 2: import: command not found [14:45] ClaudiuT: How exactly are you running it? [14:46] ./setup.py ? [14:46] ClaudiuT: You're asking me? :) [14:47] no, I'm telling :) [14:47] is it wrong how I run it? :) [14:47] Interesting use of punctuation, then :) [14:47] sorry :) [14:47] ClaudiuT: No, it's not your fault. [14:47] CraHan: Try this instead: [14:47] Whoops [14:47] ClaudiuT: This this instead: [14:48] ClaudiuT: python setup.py [14:49] thank you === pl_ is now known as Guest67438 [14:50] I need an advice: I need to install a WIndows 2003 Server on a virtual environment on Ubuntu Server. Do you recommned using VMBuilder or VirtualBox? [14:50] obvously, I'm almost a newbie [14:51] ClaudiuT, do you have a GUI? [14:52] I am now trying to setup xauth and for ssh -X [14:52] https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/virtualization.html [14:53] I've used xen successfully in that scenario. For non-critical applications I normally use VirtualBox though. [14:53] I'd go with VirtualBox too, seems the easy enough [14:54] can it be done via ssh -X without xorg and other graphical stuff installed don the server? [14:58] ClaudiuT, if it's on a server and you have to have guarantee that it will start back up after a reboot, VirtualBox is probably not the right solution--it really is built for desktop users [15:04] jamespage, Do you think bug #669739 qualifies for SRU? [15:04] Launchpad bug 669739 in tomcat6 "unable to setup ip-based virtual hosting due to "Bugzilla 48612"" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/669739 [15:04] (to Lucid) [15:05] ok, thanks jpiche [15:07] zul, did you get my email about bug #728328? [15:07] Launchpad bug 728328 in nagios-plugins "nagios plugins depend on samba" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728328 [15:07] Daviey: lemme take a look [15:07] jamespage, rockin' [15:07] Daviey: yep havent acted on it yet [15:07] zul, groovy. [15:12] Daviey: howdy! is the ubuntu-server packaged create now or not yet? [15:14] RoAkSoAx, uh? [15:14] RoAkSoAx, package set? [15:14] Daviey: yeah package set >P [15:14] haha [15:15] RoAkSoAx, yes, it's created.... Are you familiar with the process of how to apply? [15:15] Daviey: simply create a wikipage and apply to the DMB [15:16] Daviey: i'll finish recolecting all the packages I've worked on first and then ask for a "review" from you all to see if it is enough [15:17] RoAkSoAx, Yeah, makes sense to get your +1's in order before applying. [15:17] RoAkSoAx, Also note, it's essential to send your application to devel-announce a week before the DMB meeting. [15:17] (at least a week) [15:19] yeah i'm aware of that [15:19] i have to take care of visa stuff for UDS first though [15:21] New bug: #730674 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.37-1ubuntu5.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730674 [15:37] RoAkSoAx, oh yeah! [15:45] Daviey: re bug 669739 [15:46] Launchpad bug 669739 in tomcat6 "unable to setup ip-based virtual hosting due to "Bugzilla 48612"" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/669739 [15:47] jamespage, oh aye [15:48] Daviey: I still can't reproduce based on the information in the bug report; I'm gonna dig a bit further into the source as well [15:48] no test case == no SRU at the moment [15:50] jamespage, yeah, i wouldn't waste too much time on it... The reason i asked is that it was marked Medium, and Fixed upstream - wondered if it was serious enough to SRU === genii-around_ is now known as genii-around [16:01] New bug: #730696 in vsftpd (main) "package vsftpd 2.2.2-3ubuntu6 failed to install/upgrade: podproces nainštalovaný skript post-installation vrátil chybový kód 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730696 [16:02] Daviey: well if I could re-produce the issue yes - however I'm not convinced the upstream bug is actually related to this bug [16:06] New bug: #730697 in dovecot (main) "package dovecot-common 1:1.2.9-1ubuntu6.3 failed to install/upgrade:" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730697 [16:07] Where is the mysql upstart script? Is that /etc/init.d/mysql? [16:08] smoser`, question for you, if you do not mind: why would an ec2 instance for karmic reboot to a kernel different than the last installed? [16:08] not possible [16:08] :-) [16:08] oh [16:08] wait [16:08] only possible [16:08] karmic can't upgrade or change its kernel [16:08] (no pv-grub) [16:08] it will *always* reboot into the original kernel [16:08] hell [16:09] can you gen a new ec2 image for karmic from -proposed? [16:09] I thought all kernels after hardy were using pv-grub already [16:09] no. === smoser` is now known as smoser [16:10] and hardy does not by default. you have to launch the instance with --kernel === ivoks_ is now known as ivoks [16:11] hggdh, heres what i'll do [16:12] i'll add the stubbed /boot/grub/menu.lst file to karmic images [16:12] then, you can launch them with appropriate --kernel and then install from -proposed and reboot [16:13] i am comfortable saying that represents valid test of -proposed kernel for karmic on ec2 [16:13] ack [16:13] please tell me when ready to test [16:14] i'll kick off a karmic build right now [16:14] its probably 7 hours later that it makes it all the way out [16:17] hi, i setup an ubuntu server however during installation i forgot to install LAMP package. this computer doesn't have network connection either. can i install LAMP from the CD? [16:17] what command to accomplish this task? [16:18] jongbergs: man tasksel is one way to find out [16:20] kirkland: /win 6 [16:20] arrrgh [16:21] New bug: #730703 in tomcat6 (main) "tomcat6-common missing core libraries" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730703 [16:21] kirkland: ping? [16:22] jamespage, I shouldn't have mentioned tomcat..... new bugs appearing :) [16:23] Daviey: ho-hum - better take a look.... [16:26] jamespage, just run, run and don't look back. [16:30] Hi Folks, I now have a new Raid device in my server, I need a little guidance bringing it to life. here is info : http://pastebin.com/baU0v4Zd [16:31] I am very shy about this sicerver since it is live production [16:31] sicserver = server [16:31] jamespage, [NOT URGENT] - Whilst you've got tomcat on the brain , what do you think of the fix attached to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomcat6/+bug/707405 ? [16:31] Launchpad bug 707405 in tomcat6 "tomcat6-instance-create should allow -c -1" [Low,In progress] [16:37] Daviey: I'll take a quick look now [16:42] jamespage, expect beer. [16:52] Daviey: well I like the second part of the fix - that looks OK [16:52] hggdh, 20110307.1 should pop out tonight on uec-images, and then you can launch with a pv-grub kernel [16:52] don't like the way a 'valid' port number if detected in the first part though [16:53] smoser, thank you [16:56] * jamespage tries to think of a better way todo it [16:57] jamespage, seems like you have similar reservations to what i thought.. [16:58] it /looks/ ok [16:58] but then i started scratching my head. [17:02] that said; do we want to refactor this significantly because that it what it really needs; [17:05] jamespage, I have NFI :) [17:05] ttx, Do you have thoughts on this? [17:06] TBH it works; and its something that should be supported IMHO [17:07] what are we talking about btw? [17:10] fix for bug 707405 [17:10] Launchpad bug 707405 in tomcat6 "tomcat6-instance-create should allow -c -1" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/707405 [17:11] SpamapS: it was really whether there was a nicer way to detect a number in sh [17:12] * SpamapS reads [17:13] dash has some nice abilities for basic pattern matching... [17:13] The checkport function really needs a bit of a refactor (not major IMHO) to accomodate the use of -1 for the control port. [17:14] zul, backuppc FTBFS [17:14] if you're going to call it a valid TCP port number you probably also need to check that it is between 0 and 65535 too [17:14] Daviey: yes i know [17:14] jamespage: -1 means what? [17:14] disabled [17:15] ah I see thats already checked for [17:17] jamespage: IMO this reads simpler and feels less hacky: if ! echo $port | grep -q "^[0-9]+$" ; then [17:20] hmm thats not quite right [17:20] I'm going to set up a dedicated mysql server. Would it be better to use 64-bit? [17:22] oneseventeen: probably yes, since the only real reasons to not use 64-bits when you have them, is to save on RAM with systems under 2GB available [17:23] s/reasons/reason/ [17:24] SpamapS: thanks. I'll probably only be throwing 2 or 3GB of RAM at first to this system. [17:28] oneseventeen: right, but if you can expand the RAM, definitely do 64-bit [17:28] oneseventeen: otherwise mysqld itself wont' be able to grow beyond 2GB [17:29] that doesn't change teh volume of data I can store though, just the resources the daemon can use? [17:30] jamespage: FYI I commented on the MP for bug #707405 [17:30] Launchpad bug 707405 in tomcat6 "tomcat6-instance-create should allow -c -1" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/707405 [17:30] I plan on creating a partition dedicated to mysql databases... is it hard to configure MySQL to use it? [17:30] SpamapS: thanks [17:34] oneseventeen: not at all.. you may want to just mount that partition at /var/lib/mysql [17:35] oneseventeen: but if you don't want to do that.. just set datadir=/your/mount/point in /etc/mysql/my.cnf [17:35] SpamapS: thanks. it has been a while since I've done any *real* linux work, so I forget how simple it can be to just mount the drive in the right place. [17:36] just creating the volume now on the SAN, then I'll just mount it to /var/lib/mysql during setup. [17:36] oneseventeen: just make sure /etc/fstab is setup right :) [17:36] I'm hoping/assuming that if I do this during setup that it will configure fstab properly for me... :) === zeknox_ is now known as zeknox [17:36] * oneseventeen is naieve at times [17:37] oneseventeen: no it definitely will [17:39] ooh, one more critical question... if I increase the size of the drive can I tell ubuntu to rescan the drive then use the newly allocated space? [17:42] oneseventeen: make sure you setup with "LVM" and you can do that. [17:42] oneseventeen: oh on a SAN you may be able to do it w/o LVM [17:43] SpamapS: well, teh point is the SAN can expand the volume, but the OS needs to then take up the rest of that volume. [17:44] basically just resizing/expanding the partition. [17:44] oneseventeen: yeah so you will just have to run fdisk and grow the partition.. then resize2fs (or whatever your chosen FS uses for resizing) [17:45] oneseventeen: but yes, the only thing Linux has a hard time with is resizing / .. which.. I've never understood why someone hasn't solved. [18:01] smoser, any change of genninga the Lucid proposed kernel for ec2? [18:03] genninga ? [18:04] hggdh, ^ [18:04] generating [18:04] genninga was a weirdly unexpected decision from my keyboard [18:04] for lucid i would just say use the -proposed from the archives [18:04] and then when we push to -updates it will get there appropriately [18:04] * oneseventeen is just going to go with a 64GB mysql partition and hope it lasts long enough for him to figure out how to grow it in the future. :) [18:05] smoser, perfect. I am, unfortunately, still utterly lost on which kernels need an ec2 image. I am guessing it is only hardy & karmic, correct? [18:06] well, yes, both hardy and karmic will need akis published [18:06] for lucid, we will continue to do that [18:06] (publish the akis, but they're ont used by default) [18:07] in maverick+ there is only aki [18:07] err... only pv-grub [18:07] So I ran this command in terminal on my Ubuntu machine, gvfs-mount smb://etc/etc/etc and it changed my prompt to $. Users were trying to help me suggesting it changed something in bashrc, but I logged on another Ubuntu machine on our Windows domain and sure enough, I have the $ there too, so it's clearly not machine-dependent but something happened on the domain itself. Any ideas?? [18:08] Should be interesting spending six months working on "oneiric" .. :) [18:08] for hardy (and after this, for karmic) you should test the kernels by booting with a pv-grub kernel and installing kernels and rebooting. [18:09] smoser, so, for testing from now on all I need is boot, add in -proposed, install, reboot. Correct? [18:10] erbngeek_, hardy/karmic need the --kernel [18:10] smoser, ^ [18:10] erbngeek_, sorry for the ping (now twice) [18:11] hmm.....samba 3.5.8 is out [18:11] hggdh, yes. but if you want to boot into the older kernel (after install) you'll have to modify /boot/grub/menu.lst [18:12] smoser, thank you [18:13] Roasted_: please don't cross post, you posted this in #ubuntu [18:14] you're right, I did. But I'm curious if the folk here could assist me since it very well may be a server related issue. [18:14] are you running an ubuntu server ? [18:14] no, but I'm curious if the users here would have happened to have ran into it prior. [18:14] ok, so you're not running an ubuntu server, then this channel isn't appropriate [18:14] where do you suggest I ask this question, ikon [18:14] ikonia, [18:15] #ubuntu is the best place [18:15] okay, I shall continue to ask my question in there until an answer is had. [18:15] thank you [18:15] welcome [18:15] :)( [18:15] :) [18:26] New bug: #730786 in php5 (main) "package php5-cgi 5.2.4-2ubuntu5.14 failed to install/upgrade:" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730786 [18:31] is it possible to add locations to index with locate/updatedb? [18:32] panfist: it's a config file, then you run updatedb [18:33] panfist: /etc/updatedb.conf ? [18:34] i see, thanks [18:35] i have an instance of ubuntu server running on a physical machine on my home network, the purpose of it is primarily to serve a raid array over samba [18:36] i used to have the raid array mounted in /media because that seems to be the default location for random stuff to mount, but what would be a better place to mount it more permanently? [18:36] i was thinking /srv/samba/foo or something like that [18:37] should i actually mount it there or mount it somewhere else and symlink it [18:37] have any of you mounted iSCSI targets in Ubuntu-server? is it possible? [18:37] * oneseventeen has never used iSCSI in Ubuntu [18:38] oneseventeen: yes, ubuntu can act as an iscsi client or server [18:44] oneseventeen, I do it all the time [18:44] I just never attempted root iscsi till recently :) [18:46] New bug: #730817 in krb5 (main) "Please sync krb5-1.8.3+dfsg-5 from Debian Unstable." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730817 [18:48] patdk-wk: are there any guides I can read on how to mount them? [18:49] http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-setup-debian-ubuntu-linux-iscsi-initiator/ [18:49] beautiful, thanks! [18:50] one final (I hope) question before I get started: does anyone use Ubuntu in a VMware VM? [18:50] I'm trying to decide between the default E1000 NIC or VMXNET 3 NIC [18:50] always use vmxnet3 [18:50] and pvscsi :) [18:50] atleast if your on esx 4.1, don't use pvscsi on 4.0 [18:51] that's what I do on Windows, but I normally need to isntall drivers... do I need to install Drivers on ubuntu for this NIC? [18:52] nope [18:52] I load up 10.04 with vmxnet3 and pvscsi without modifications [18:52] what is pvscsi? [18:52] same for windows, but have to load the pvscsi floppy disk :( [18:52] faster disk access [18:52] it's the equiv of vmxnet3 for disks [18:53] so is that in my SCSI controller settings? [18:53] ya, scsi adaptor, change type [18:53] is it the VMware paravirtual? [18:53] yep [18:53] paravirtual scsi [18:54] sweet, got it all set up. [18:58] New bug: #730469 in samba (main) "samba not working for printer sharing with VirtualBox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730469 [19:02] patdk-wk: any other tips before I create this VM? [19:03] (system drive will be on a VMDK, but a MySQL data volume will be iSCSI mount) [19:03] nope [19:03] I wonder what would perform better though [19:04] vm->iscsi, or vm->disk (vmdk->iscsi) [19:04] guess it depends on how well you tune esx for iscsi luns [19:06] I'm just mounting my iSCSI volume directly in the VM so I can grow it easier in the future. [19:07] hello [19:08] anyone here? [19:08] a few people are popping in and out. [19:08] Nope, we're all gone. [19:10] but you are welcome to ask a question in case we come back. [19:10] Just asking [19:11] If anyone here available to help me [19:12] feel free to ask a question and perhaps someone will respond if they know it. [19:12] This is ubuntu support, right? Can I ask anything related to hosting websites... etc? [19:12] (I'm picking up Ubuntu-Server for the first time in several months, so I'm not a great source) [19:13] This is the ubuntu-server chat room filled with ubuntu-server users who like to help each other out. [19:14] ok [19:14] but I'm sure several of us here have hosted websites using ubuntu-server. [19:14] what's your question? [19:14] ok [19:15] I have an ubuntu server, but without a control panel. [19:15] So only apache on it. [19:15] I want to add my site on it, but I don't know how. [19:17] I don't have a vanilla install handy, but I think the default website is located at /var/www/ [19:17] so if you put files in there, you should be able to see them when you type the server's IP in a web browser. [19:17] yes [19:18] when i got to my ip [19:18] na, he wants something to config the server for him [19:18] like ebox I think it's called [19:18] !ebox [19:18] ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/eBox [19:18] i can add files, html page to my ip...that means my apache server is working...but what I want is to add my domain to it [19:19] so you want people from the outside world to type in your domain and see the site hosted on your Ubuntu box? [19:19] yes oneseventeen [19:20] Are you hosting this at your home or at a business? [19:20] (I ask because at home you usually don't have a static IP that is usable from the outside world... it changes every few weeks depending on your ISP) [19:20] Now I installed the apache on my server and when I go to my ip i see the webpage and it is working as it should...But I want to add my domain to it so anyone can see the content [19:20] Not hosted on home [19:21] It's hosted on some web hosting company [19:22] do you already have the domain? [19:22] yes [19:23] normally you can go into a management site for your domain (from whoever you purchased it from) to have them point it to your IP [19:23] Okay [19:24] * oneseventeen hasn't messed with DNS/domain registration outside of shared hosting... hope he gave ok advice [19:25] * patdk-wk runs his own dns servers [19:25] apparently apt-get intsall doesn't work... [19:27] oneseventeen: "doesn't work" is rather vague. [19:28] jpds, looks good to me :) [19:28] mispelled install [19:28] yeah, I was just joking about my bad typing skills. [19:28] took a good 2 min to figure out my error [19:29] I always blame my fingers [19:32] so do I just mess with /etc/network/interfaces to set static IPs on my NICs? [19:45] beautiful, just got a listing of all iSCSI targets on the ubuntu box... thanks for the tips patdk-wk [19:46] gotta run to get some non-enterprise (aka Apple) hardware looked at. [19:46] Daviey: looking [19:48] ttx, appreciated - Clint added a comment on the merge proposal [19:48] jamespage, Daviey, SpamapS: I'd rather have another option to say "disable control port" [19:49] Also note that since it's in sync with Debian, it's good to push it there to keep the sync [19:49] ttx, oh aye [19:49] and it's a bit featureful for post-FF [19:50] ttx, do you have a suggestion for a cleaner fix? [19:50] ttx, aye, i'd like to get it moving whilst still fresh.. ready for sync from o-series at least [19:50] ah, -1 is actually something tomcat allows, I see [19:53] Daviey: SpamapS's snippet sounds good to me [19:54] does dnsmasq have an equivalent to the (missing bind9) option 'topology'? [19:55] ttx, What risks do you see with that? [19:58] Daviey: none, and could definitely be considered a bug :) [19:58] ttx, awesome [19:59] ttx, fancy commiting it to debian branch? :) [19:59] ah! [19:59] I guess I can. [20:00] Once the branch is updated with Clint's suggestion [20:04] where do we go to look over (/proofread) the natty release docs? help.ubuntu.com seems to only have 10.10. [20:05] good question [20:07] hallyn: i dunno [20:09] hallyn: Maybe https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+specs has some useful info for you [20:21] ttx, you rock... [20:21] hallyn, what do you mean release doc's? [20:22] hallyn, This might be what you want? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview [20:29] Daviey: i don't think so, though maybe. at server team mtg it was mentioned (two weeks ago) that we should be looking over the docs for accuracy [20:32] New bug: #460356 in sysstat (main) "sadc assert failure: *** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/sysstat/sadc: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x08b0f9e8 ***" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/460356 [20:34] hallyn, ahhhhhh [20:36] hallyn, Well caught.... The docs are stored in bzr... but essentially review https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/index.html and look for inaccuracies.. [20:36] hallyn, The plan /was/ to submit it to sommer... but things might have to be different this cycle [20:39] Daviey: thanks! [20:41] hallyn, If you generate a list of changes if you find some, we'll get it sorted this week [20:51] New bug: #726445 in samba "net.samba3 crashed with SIGSEGV in NetFileEnum_r()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/726445 [20:57] New bug: #498383 in pptpd (main) "pptpctrl crashed with SIGSEGV in strncpy()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/498383 === froschi is now known as XoD [21:41] New bug: #730940 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.7.0-1 failed to install/upgrade: подпроцесс установлен сценарий post-installation возвратил код ошибки 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730940 [21:57] hallyn: Where are we on SPICE support in Ubuntu? [22:06] anyone familiar with reimaging servers via PXE and preseeds? My servers are booting from the network, but not downloading the preseed config file [22:06] booting to the installer that is [22:07] you're in luck, there are countless howtos for that [22:07] I know, I'm following the Installation Guide and it's not working [22:08] Wrong guide! [22:08] mray: how are you specifying the preseed file? [22:08] I https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/installation-guide/amd64/preseed-intro.html is wrong? [22:08] mray: is that like ltsp, and using tftpd ? [22:09] /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default is my syslinux.cfg [22:09] # D-I config version 2.0 [22:09] include ubuntu-installer/amd64/boot-screens/menu.cfg [22:09] default ubuntu-installer/amd64/boot-screens/vesamenu.c32 [22:09] prompt 0 [22:09] timeout 1 [22:09] preseed/url=http://192.168.11.7/default.seed [22:09] preseed/url/checksum=d785f425373c0f11a4d8c056866db76a [22:10] the timeout is being picked up, but nothing happens [22:10] hitting that URL from a browser works [22:10] apache's logs don't show any requests [22:10] (except from my browser) [22:11] fluvvell: PXE booting the installer [22:11] mray: you have to add the "auto url=etcetc" [22:11] oh no that's manually enterin it [22:12] heck, if that works I'll try [22:12] I'm reinstalling about every other day, so 1 manual step isn't terrible [22:12] mray: I'm following now. [22:14] mray: yeah I installed couple weeks ago adding the auto url thingy as I pointed you out the other day with no issues [22:15] I'm just trying to avoid anything manual [22:15] since I've got 6 machines I'm working with [22:15] and as I scale, it gets less enjoyable [22:15] mray: http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ServerWhole#Preseeded%20Installation [22:16] mray: indeed! I see your point. I myself looking for everything automated but I guess I'll rely on cobbler eventually [22:16] RoAkSoAx: check for press releases from Cloud Connect tomorrow ;) [22:16] mray: will do ;) [22:22] SpamapS: ping [22:23] for some reason after a reboot I can't get online with my ubuntu server. [22:24] interfaces file looks good. [22:25] soren: spice support is in ppa:serge-hallyn/spice. I'd like to package it but need some testers [22:25] kim0: is looking at it [22:25] I am having a heck of a time setting up an openswan ipsec VPN on my server [22:26] hallyn: What do you mean "package it"? [22:26] hallyn: It's already in a PPA, so it must be packaged. [22:27] soren: right i meant push it into natty [22:27] kim0 is working on MIR [22:27] hallyn: An MIR sounds premature if it's not even in the archive yet. Why not just put it in the archive? [22:28] hallyn: Best way to get testers. [22:28] I am able to connect to it just fine, but it seems that my NAT is screwed up somehow because I am unable to connect to anything through it [22:30] RoAkSoAx: pong, sup? [22:32] soren: how do we go about that? [22:33] solution was to remove the gateway from eth1 so only eth0 has a gateway. [22:34] SpamapS: bug #729911 [22:34] Launchpad bug 729911 in squid "package squid 2.7.STABLE7-1ubuntu12.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/729911 [22:35] your SRU doesn't seem to have fixed the issue [22:35] RoAkSoAx: yeah... I'm thinking that this has more to do w/ running squid in the foreground than an old copy of squid untracked by upstart [22:36] RoAkSoAx: my guess is that when squid is run in the foreground and receives SIGTERM, it somehow doesn't free resources, so the start back up fails. [22:36] Like maybe if there are active requests. [22:36] SpamapS: yeah it is indeed complicated issue. I just hope we don't get as many bug reports :S [22:37] RoAkSoAx: I think unfortunately, we will [22:37] RoAkSoAx: the maintainer scripts also call restart when they shoudn't. [22:37] So thats probably the blanket fix that will stop the bug reports.. but I'm skeptical that this will be enough to stop all problems. [22:37] SpamapS: wouldn't it just be easier to stop before upgrading? [22:38] RoAkSoAx: yes [22:38] RoAkSoAx: what would be easiest, would be to use dh_installinit, which implements the appropriate logic in a uniform manner. [22:38] SpamapS: indeed [22:38] anyway, this reminds me [22:39] SpamapS: in PowreNap the daemon starts threads [22:39] and powernap tracks those threads and whatever [22:39] SpamapS: however, wen I issue sudo restart powernap [22:39] the config is not reloaded [22:39] so I have to stop powernap, and start it again [22:39] what might be wrong? [22:39] restart sends SIGTERM, waits for the pid to die, then starts the job again [22:40] in many ways, restart is like a forced respawn [22:40] so the threads from the managed daemon should die [22:40] hallyn: Well, if it builds and installs ok and debian/copyright is in good shape, all you need is an FFe and we can upload it. [22:40] SpamapS: right but this doesn't happen. So when I restart everything keeps running as I didn't issue the restart command even though it tells me it has [22:41] SpamapS: that's why I have to stop, and then start again [22:41] does anyone know how to list all drives/volumes (even unformatted ones) on ubuntu-server? [22:41] RoAkSoAx: are you sure powernap is being tracked properly? === Jonny51 is now known as Jonny5 [22:43] doh, google knew the answer. sudo fdisk -l [22:43] SpamapS: the job:http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/577218/ [22:45] RoAkSoAx: so powernapd does not daemonize? [22:45] anyone here have any experience with ipsec? [22:45] SpamapS: it does [22:46] I ran ipsec verify and ip forwarding keeps failing [22:46] SpamapS: it is a deamon (you cannot run it in the foreground) [22:47] RoAkSoAx: then you'd need 'expect fork' or 'expect daemon' somewhere in there [22:47] SpamapS: it is there too :) [22:47] RoAkSoAx: not in the paste you gave me [22:47] RoAkSoAx: chopped at pre-start (actually re-start.. ;) [22:48] SpamapS: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/577220/ [22:49] chopped all above that xD [22:50] RoAkSoAx: so, when you look at the process in 'ps auxfw' .. is it init->powernapd only, or are there actual pids under powernapd? [22:51] when I run "sysctl -A | grep ip_forward" I get net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0 [22:51] how do I change that setting? [22:51] holmser: sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 [22:52] thank you soren [22:53] holmser: note that you will need to make that persistent somehow.. the best way is to put it in /etc/sysctl.d/60-something.conf [22:53] SpamapS only powernap root 7418 0.1 0.0 54044 5204 ? Sl 17:52 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/sbin/powernapd [22:55] hmm... even with that changed, VPN is still not working [22:56] SpamapS: so I was thinking it may be becuase powernapd starts threads and stuff that are in other files. so powernapd only instances a set of X classes, that can have threading or not [22:59] RoAkSoAx: "initctl list powernap" shows the correct pid? [23:00] RoAkSoAx: It really shouldn't matter. Threads will die with the process. fork'ed children will either die, or become children of pid 1. [23:02] soren: yes it does [23:02] SpamapS: right but either way i don't relaly see it restarting [23:03] RoAkSoAx: After "restart powernap", you still have the same pid? [23:03] RoAkSoAx: whats your evidence? The pid changes right? [23:03] RoAkSoAx: oh wait.. pre-stop .. thats a known bug [23:03] I'm formating a partition to store mysql databases on, is there a preferred filesystem for ubuntu-server? [23:03] ext3? [23:04] RoAkSoAx: add yourself to bug #703800 .. I'll mark it Confirmed [23:04] Launchpad bug 703800 in upstart "restart command fails to restart main process when pre-stop stanza exists" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/703800 [23:04] soren: yes it does [23:04] SpamapS: the pid doesn't change [23:06] yeah, restart is b0rked when there is a pre-stop [23:07] RoAkSoAx: this is part of the reason /sbin/upstart-job doesn't use restart... its just a weird command [23:07] err [23:07] SpamapS: yeah indeed it is upstart [23:07] err, /lib/init/upstart-job [23:07] SpamapS: will post-stop work [23:07] ?? [23:08] or does that even exists? [23:08] :) [23:08] does anyone know where mysql saves database files? I forget [23:08] RoAkSoAx: yes and yes [23:08] oneseventeen: I have used ext4...but if you want to be able to freeze the file system you have to use a different type. [23:08] SpamapS: i guess I'll to change things then, thanks :) [23:09] ha, /var/lib/mysql [23:09] RoAkSoAx: does it make sense to powerwake-now *after* powernapd is stopped tho? [23:09] thesheff17: thanks [23:10] eek, didn't realize the time, later everyone and thanks for all the help earlier! [23:10] SpamapS: not really but i'll change the logic [23:11] i mean, what powerwake-now does in that case is only good when in PowerSave nmode wich will run other scripts to ensure that the system is restored as original [23:11] RoAkSoAx: I'd rather see the logic right, and not use restart, than use complicated logic to enable a command that I never recommend people use. [23:11] so post-stop I'm just planning to grepping the config and if it is configured to poewrsave then run the command necessary to restore everything bug to original [23:12] s/bug/back [23:18] RoAkSoAx: but if somebody stops powernapd .. there won't be a state to query will there? [23:19] SpamapS: for exmaple, in the config ACTION_METHOD=0, will run pm-powersave true|false when entering into a powersave start or leaving it respectively [23:20] SpamapS: the pre-stop part in upstart only ensures that pm-powersave false is run to rollback the changes, if any, to original [23:20] SpamapS: these changes are , for example, turn off the 3 CPU cores of the 4 that pm-powersave true turned off [23:56] New bug: #730995 in squid (main) "package squid 2.7.STABLE7-1ubuntu12.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730995