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RAOFDoes anyone happen to have a sandybridge system lying around to test the new mesa on?05:52
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bryceh_Oneiric Ocelot09:56
vishha! the naming has begun!10:06
brobostigon http://paste.ubuntu.com/576959/ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/73009912:45
ubot4`Launchpad bug 730099 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[i915gm] GPU lockup 0c40b170 (ESR: 0x00000001 IPEHR: 0x02000011) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]12:45
brobostigonhi, i wrote that bug up yesterday, after experiencing it, for a few days, any ideas as to how this canbe resolved,please.12:46
cndtjaalton, if you're around, would you be interested in uploading a package for me?13:06
cndit's a new package that I have rights to upload to, but the rights can't be managed untill it's in the archive :(13:07
tjaaltoncnd: sure13:08
cndtjaalton, http://people.canonical.com/~cndougla/utouch/13:10
cndthe package is "libgrip"13:10
tjaaltoncnd: ok, uploaded13:14
brobostigonhi,it justhappened again under natty while running unity. 73009913:51
brobostigoni have just updated that bug, with info about the lockup that haoened a few minutes ago.14:02
brobostigonanyone got a eeepc 900 ssd, with the gpu in 730099, with natty, with all recent updates,who can confirm such a bug exists please.14:41
lagcnd: Hey buddy14:52
lagcnd: Did you manage to have a look into my little problem?14:52
cndlag, not yet :(14:53
cndI'll try to get to it today though14:53
lagcnd: Okay, I'll not nag :)14:53
lagThat would be awesome14:53
lagIf you have the time14:53
stefanlsdhihi. i have a macbook pro running natty and im trying to stop syndaemon (i think) from disabling my usb external mouse when i type. under mouse touchpad you can untick -      │ tito15:32
stefanlsd                   | disable touchpad while typing - any idea how i do this for my mouse also?15:32
stefanlsdbleh, sorry for bad paste15:32
soreauThere is a bug that causes xv video playback to have strange colors on rv350. I went to bisect ddx but now I see that the bug is somehow related to xorg-edgers repo because I installed master xf86-video-ati to /opt/xorg and if I point X to load these modules, video playback is fine. However even after ppa-purging and reinstalling xorg-edgers, the problem persists. I also have confirmed at least one other person had this issue using xorg-edgers15:43
soreauThe question is, how can I figure out what's wrong when using xorg-edgers? Old stuff lying around? (I haven't installed anything other than xorg-edgers and ddx to /opt/xorg so far and it's a relatively clean install) or ubuntu patches? (where can I find the patch list xorg-edgers uses on top of master git component?) or any other random oddity? Really not sure how to diagnose it further15:46
soreauThis wasn't happening up until about a month and a half ago15:47
codemagicianHi guys.  My 10.10 desktop machine X process regularly hits 100% and hangs my machine. I'm using Nvidia chipset card with 270.29 drivers.   Can anybody help suggest an approach to diagnose the issue?15:48
codemagicianThe card is Asus EN210 Silent (GeForce 210)15:48
lagWhat do you guys know about CMAPs?15:48
hrw[15765.380030] radeon 0000:01:00.0: GPU lockup CP stall for more than 10020msec16:02
hrwdoes someone has idea how to get rid of it?16:02
brobostigoni am getting lockup errors here aswell,but on intel i915gm.16:03
hrwmy gfx card is stuck now spitting this ,essage each 10s16:03
hrwthats on up-to-date natty with xfce16:03
codemagicianAny takers on the 100% CPU Xorg?  By the way, its a i7 3GHz core processor so a little greedy for a single 1920x1080 display :-)16:05
hrwok, time to reboot16:07
stefanlsdif anyone was interested, found solution - bug #21948716:13
ubot4`Launchpad bug 219487 in mouseemu (Ubuntu) "Typing blocks external mouse (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 26)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21948716:13
brobostigonanyone here have an eeepc or other machine with natty, who can confirm 730099, please.16:20
hrwbug 73009916:22
ubot4`Launchpad bug 730099 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[i915gm] GPU lockup 0c40b170 (ESR: 0x00000001 IPEHR: 0x02000011) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73009916:22
hrwwould have to dig out my intel based laptop16:24
brobostigonhrw: a confirmation i am not alone would be good, because then it would give some impatus for it to be fixed, for everyones benefit.16:25
brobostigonhrw: if you could, that woukd be good, please, :)16:26
hrwsure, powerting up16:29
brobostigonthank you, :)16:30
hrwand ugrading16:30
hrwcause with system updated around 25th Feb I did not had problems16:30
brobostigonhrw: it is entirly random as to when it happens, i didnt have any problems, untill 3 days ago.16:31
hrw715MB of updates to fetch16:32
hrwshould not take more then 15-20 minutes16:32
codemagicianWith regards to the 100% CPU usage for xorg, somebody suggest to add "UseEvents True" to my xorg.conf file to potentially fix what they considered was a known problem in the community.  May I ask if this could be the issue?16:32
brobostigonhrw: does it have the same gpu as specified in the bug?16:33
brobostigonhrw: and by chance, do you know someone who ould fix it.?16:34
hrwmine has newer one 8086:2a43 (gm45)16:35
hrwbrobostigon: no idea who16:35
brobostigonoh, ok.16:35
bjsnidercodemagician, have you eliminated every other possible cause of this issue, ie. firefox or something else running?17:12
codemagiciancodemagician, i only had shell windows running17:12
codemagicianbjsnider, i only had shell windows running17:13
codemagicianbjsnider, also the screen pixelates before it crashes17:13
bjsnideris it possible this is a broken graphics card?17:14
codemagicianbjsnider, another point (not sure how relevant it is) but this seems to happen within the first 10mins of startup.  If I manage to survive longer then the machine holds up.  I switch my machine off each night17:15
codemagicianbjsnider, no.  I tried it in a windows box17:16
codemagicianbjsnider, im not proud of that btw17:16
bjsnidercodemagician, have you tried with and without compositing?17:16
codemagicianbjsnider,  is that the System->Preferences->Appearance->Visual Effects ?17:17
codemagicianbjsnider, yes, it crashed in all 3 modes17:18
codemagicianbjsnider, and often crashes especially when attempting to switch between them17:18
bjsniderdid you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log?17:19
codemagicianbjsnider, shall I check this after a crash?17:30
bjsniderthe info is saved there, so it can be checked anytime17:31
bjsniderthere are quite a few xorg logs in there too17:31
codemagicianany clues in that ?17:37
bjsniderpastebin the older logs too17:38
codemagicianline above is Xorg.0.log.old17:41
codemagicianline above Xorg.1.log17:42
codemagicianthis one has fatal error line17:42
codemagicianthat file is referring to itself btw17:44
codemagicianalso, I noticed the kernel version at the top of that log doesn't match uname -a17:49
codemagicianLinux reddwarf 2.6.35-27-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Tue Feb 22 20:25:29 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux17:49
codemagicianwhereas the log says "[  1279.434] Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.24-28-server i686 Ubuntu"17:50
codemagicianmaybe this isn't important17:50
andypiperhi folks... I have a weird Natty alpha 3 issue which may be X related18:26
andypiperI installed a fresh Natty Alpha 3 on a netbook (AAO)18:27
andypiperbut on boot, no input buttons / clicks work18:27
andypipersame applies for both synaptics touchpad... and USB mouse18:27
andypiperif I go out to console a rmmod/modprobe psmouse it sometimes gets better18:27
andypiperbut even then only tap-to-click works, the trackpad buttons don't18:28
andypipershould I file this against X in lp?18:28
bryceh_andypiper, the rmmod/modprobe workaround sort of suggests it's a kernel bug18:31
andypiperyes... I thought that might be the case. Hrm.18:31
bryceh_andypiper, to 'linux' might be the better package.  But if you're unsure, file 'ubuntu-bug xorg' and we can take a look before sending it to the kernel queue18:31
andypiperdo you mean file against both? sorry I'm confused by that statement :-)18:32
andypiperor tag it with those fields?18:32
bryceh_andypiper, a standard diagnosis method would be to try booting older or newer kernels and see if the functionality comes back18:32
andypiperright - but at the moment this is just a stock new Natty alpha 3 install... would need to hunt out older kernels I guess18:33
bryceh_'ubuntu-bug xorg' is a command to run which will file the bug for you (and attach a mess of files we like to have)18:33
andypiperoh! cool18:33
* andypiper goes off to try it18:33
bryceh_'ubuntu-bug linux' works equally well too18:33
andypiperok I'm going to reboot that machine to get it in the right "state" and then VNC over to run that.18:34
andypipersince currently the tap-to-click is in a working state at least (trackpad buttons not though)18:35
andypiperdid wonder if it was an xorg.conf setting I'd missed on the trackpad, but so far I've not messed with the config files18:35
bjsnidercodemagician, bug 44165318:35
ubot4`Launchpad bug 441653 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "radeon graphics mode and console does not start - xf86OpenConsole: VT_WAITACTIVE failed: Interrupted system call (affects: 51) (dups: 1) (heat: 270)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44165318:35
andypipercuriouser and curiouser... on reboot, login to gdm (via keyboard) and VNC over, right-click works, left-click doesn't (from remote system)18:38
codemagicianbjsnider, this doesn't fit the symptoms 18:40
bjsnideri think it does18:42
bjsniderit's not a graphics driver bug18:42
codemagicianseems strange so many people link the two18:43
andypiperok logged my weird netbook issue as bug 73082318:45
ubot4`Launchpad bug 730823 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Input device button/click not working on fresh Natty Alpha 3 install (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73082318:45
andypiperthanks for your help bryceh_ and understand if it's eventually deemed "not an X issue" :-)18:46
Sarvattcnd: have you already refreshed this monster 500_xi2.1.patch for xserver 1.10 final?18:46
cndSarvatt, no, I haven't18:47
cndhas 1.10 final been released/18:47
Sarvattyeah was going to throw in in xorg-edgers but this is a hell of a patch to fail on :)18:48
jcristau10 days ago?18:48
cndoh, I figured rc3 was going to be out for a while18:48
cnddidn't realize final would be released 24 hours later18:49
cndSarvatt, have you tried it to see if the patch still applies?18:49
Sarvatthaven't even looked at the hunks yet, just saw it failed and asked right away in case you already knew about it18:50
cndahh, not bad18:50
cndSarvatt, I can clean it up if you need18:50
codemagicianbjsnider, this fits my problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/+bug/61799418:50
ubot4`Launchpad bug 617994 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 (Ubuntu) "Slow performance and high CPU usage on Maverick (dup-of: 629910)" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:50
ubot4`Launchpad bug 629910 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "nvidia 256.53 xorg-server 1.9.0 performance regression with antialiased text (affects: 73) (dups: 2) (heat: 310)" [High,Fix released]18:50
cndSarvatt, but I would think it should be straightforward to fix it18:50
cndSarvatt, in fact, I'm guessing wiggle --replace will probably take care of the failures by itself18:51
cndconfigure.ac and xf86Module.h changes are trivial18:51
Sarvattokie i'll fix it up18:51
cndthe failure in test/input.c is interesting cause I wouldn't think it would fail18:52
cndso that could be more challenging18:52
cndbut it shouldn't be hard18:52
bjsnidercodemagician, that bug was fixed, and everyone had that bug. all nvidia users18:53
cndSarvatt, are the binary blob drivers fixed for 1.10 abi again?18:53
Sarvattcnd: yep since last week18:53
bjsniderwell, nvidia is18:54
codemagicianbjsnider, not sure what to say.  it happens and there is nothing running only shell windows18:57
AzelphurTrying to help the nouveau people with an mmio trace for my gtx 570, in order to do so I need to reload the nvidia module. I can rmmod it fine but when I try to modprobe it it says that the module doesn't exist.19:02
AzelphurAnyone know how to solve that one?19:02
Sarvattcnd: yeah that wasnt a big deal at all, it was just http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?h=server-1.10-branch&id=93a73993708b1345c86ec3ec06b02ed236595673 and the abi bumps19:06
cndSarvatt, thanks for doing that for me :)19:06
Sarvatthttp://sarvatt.com/downloads/patches/500_xi2.1.patch in case it comes up again when i'm not around19:12
Sarvattugh, amd64 buildds are backed up a few hours but i386 isn't, why does that always happen when I need to rebuild the world for a new xserver abi transition? :D19:14
Sarvatt(ppa's dont autoretry dep waits so uploading before xserver builds on all arches is a PITA)19:15
cndSarvatt, are you pushing your changes to git?19:16
cndI actually have some bug fixes for that patch19:16
cndso either I merge my fixes into that refreshed patch19:16
cndor we remerge the patch with my fixes19:16
cndremerging would be easiest I think19:16
SarvattSuccessfully uploaded packages.19:20
Sarvattxorg-server (2:1.10.0+git20110307+server-1.10-branch.35503964-0ubuntu0sarvatt) natty; urgency=low19:20
* Sarvatt groans at automated scripts uploading when he wanted to wait19:20
trinikronohey guys i found a bug 721080 and i was wondering if it was a dupe of 702090?20:15
ubot4`Launchpad bug 721080 in ubuntu "[arrandale] GPU lockup a5cb7103 (IPEHR: 0x01800002) (affects: 1) (heat: 254)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72108020:15
bryceh_hi trinikrono20:20
bryceh_trinikrono, the error codes there look different than the prototypical 702090 crash20:20
bryceh_trinikrono, however the thing to check is to look in the CurrentDmesg and BootDmesg for where the "GPU hang" message is20:21
bryceh_typically with 702090 this will be during boot, towards the end of the boot sequence20:21
bryceh_so like either at the end of BootDmesg or the top of CurrentDmesg20:21
bryceh_also, oftentimes there'll be more dmesg spew following the error, because it resets the GPU and keeps on truckin'20:22
trinikronobecause the i915errorstate makes no sense to me as yet20:22
trinikronobryceh_: so i can still mark it against xserver-xorg-video-intel right20:22
bryceh_trinikrono, if you're curious to learn, there is a tool available which converts the error codes into actual messages20:22
bryceh_trinikrono, yes20:22
trinikronowell i am curious, i seem to be finding xorg bugs everywhere i go20:23
trinikronoi use savage though if that makes a difference20:23
bryceh_trinikrono, yeah it does; the GPU dumps and i915errorstate stuff is particular to the -intel driver, but savage uses the -savage driver20:24
bryceh_trinikrono, here's a doc with a higher level explanation of the gpu dump stuff:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/InterpretingIntelGpuDump20:24
bryceh_trinikrono, I think part of the problem with -savage is that since the userbase for it is much smaller than other video drivers, us ubuntu-x guys don't pay that much attention to it20:25
bryceh_trinikrono, however if you'd be interested in doing bug triage or other work on the driver, it could help a lot, and we'd certainly be able to give you tips and pointers20:25
trinikronoyes i spoke to tormod a few weeks ago about some of the savage bugs , so if i can help i will20:27
bryceh_cool, yes he keeps an eye on -savage and is a great resource20:27
trinikronobryceh_: in your x org bugs do we look for upstream bugreports in freedesktop or is it different?20:31
bryceh_trinikrono, sometimes yes, however I tend to just forward the bugs upstream and let upstream decide whether they're dupes.  Often it's difficult for us at the distro level to know for sure20:35
bryceh_trinikrono, but I do always at least google around to see if the bug has been reported anywhere outside ubuntu (and sometimes this turns up dupes inside ubuntu too)20:36
Sarvattlooks like 116_xi2_1.patch in synaptics is going to be the painful one to maintain21:49
RAOFSarvatt: Fortunately, we have someone to blame! :)21:58
SarvattRAOF: eh, our synaptics patches have always been hell to carry forward in git, not really anything new :D21:58
Sarvattall of xserver 1.10 is up in xorg-edgers now, hopefully the rest builds fine21:59
* Sarvatt is so sick of updating the mesa build system21:59
Sarvatthad to disable nouveau-vieux in there, after about 6 hours of messing with it I got fed up and started pushing the xserver 1.10 stuff22:00
Sarvattgcc -c -I. -I../../../../../src/mesa/drivers/dri/common -Iserver -I../../../../../include -I../../../../../src/mapi -I../../../../../src/mesa -I../../../../../src/egl/main -I../../../../../src/egl/drivers/dri -I/usr/include/libdrm    -Wall -g -O2 -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -std=c99 -ffast-math -fno-strict-aliasing  -fPIC  -DUSE_X86_ASM -DUSE_MMX_ASM -DUSE_3DNOW_ASM -DUSE_SSE_ASM -D_GNU_SOURCE -DPTHREADS -DHAVE_POSIX_MEMALIGN -DGLX_USE_TLS -DPTHREADS 22:00
SarvattIn file included from nouveau_screen.c:27:0:22:00
Sarvattnouveau_driver.h:40:28: fatal error: nouveau_device.h: No such file or directory22:00
Sarvattcompilation terminated.22:00
Sarvattmake[7]: *** [nouveau_screen.o] Error 122:00
Sarvattneed to figure out whats needed for this mesa wayland stuff ricotz pointed out still22:03
bryceh_thanks Sarvatt22:04
* bryceh_ patch pilots22:04
bryceh_Sarvatt, wayland?  I have some notes that Darxus provided on what mesa patches would be required in order for doing newer wayland snapshots22:04
RAOFFrom memory, you need the wayland protocol stuff built first, then build mesa against that, then you can build the wayland demos with EGL support.22:05
Sarvattthe patches are upstream, there's a new wayland egl platform to use but need to figure out where all the deps go22:05
RAOFThat sounds like a job for Super bryceh_, though :)22:05
bryceh_ick :-)22:06
Sarvattalso I was a bit confused about the wayland packaging, wayland-client.pc is in libwayland-client-dev, but both the library and protocol headers are in wayland-dev and there's no dependency on either of them for the other?22:06
RAOFlibwayland-client isn't a dependency of libwayland-client-dev?22:07
Sarvattunless i'm missing something22:07
bryceh_it's entirely possible I did not do that right22:07
RAOFThat seems unlikely to be correct.22:07
RAOFNot that anyone's going to notice for a while :)22:07
bryceh_splitting out the client and server bits was pretty recent, and I don't think I did much testing of the -dev packages (certainly not on a clean machine)22:08
Sarvattsudo apt-get install libwayland-client-dev22:08
SarvattThe following NEW packages will be installed:22:08
Sarvatt  libwayland-client-dev22:08
Sarvattsudo apt-get install libwayland-client022:08
SarvattThe following NEW packages will be installed:22:08
Sarvatt  libwayland-client022:08
Sarvattshould wayland-client.h should be in libwayland-client-dev where the .pc is and wayland-client-protocol.h in the wayland-dev one?22:10
ricotzSarvatt, bryceh_ http://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/wayland/22:11
ricotzmoving the headers might be useful for a nicer organization22:11
RAOFDo clients need wayland-client-protocol.h?22:15
bryceh_RAOF, looks like clients don't include it directly, but instead include wayland-client.h, but then that has this:22:18
bryceh_./wayland/wayland-client.h:#include "wayland-client-protocol.h"22:18
bryceh_so... yes22:18
RAOFI guess this would be more obvious were we packaging a more recent snapshot where these things are actually in different tarballs.22:19
bryceh_in fact that's one reason I didn't worry too much about the packaging at this point; I think it's going to need a pretty heavy revamp due to the split up of the repo22:20
bryceh_also, it seems debian is moving away from using xsfbs, so that needs to be dropped and a more pure dh approach used instead (which I think ricotz proposed before and looks suitable)22:21
bryceh_I think there's also been some changes to licensing in recent snapshots, so copyright needs to be reviewed 22:21
RAOFIt was certainly moving to... MIT?  Or from MIT to LGPL?22:23
RAOFOne of the two :)22:23
Sarvattwow, that looks to be the most painless transition ever - https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa/+builds?build_text=&build_state=all22:23
bryceh_the latter22:23
RAOFSarvatt: Yeah, the API change from 1.10RC2 to 1.10 isn't big :)22:24
Sarvattthe packaging changes were though, I figured something would break at least22:25
SarvattI didn't change where I was syncing drivers from expecting things to break and fix it after, guess unstable worked fine22:26
SarvattKiBi rocks :)22:26
jcastroHi! I am pretty sure I found an upstream bug related to this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/71533022:31
ubot4`Launchpad bug 715330 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Freeze after login with KMS enabled on Radeon HD6310 (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [High,Confirmed]22:31
jcastrohowever in the upstream bug report it mentions putting an option in xorg.conf22:31
jcastrodo I need to just have a blank file with the Option line or do I need some sort of skeleton for the file?22:31
bryceh_you'll need a skeleton22:32
RAOFYou can get a skeleton by running “X -configure”; I think you'll need at least a Device section to hang that Option line on.22:32
jcastroah awesome22:32
Sarvattjcastro: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577213/22:33
RAOFI take it that the fusion netbook isn't a bundle of Just Works™ then?22:33
jcastroRAOF: I am close! 22:33
jcastroI think it's just an option that's hosing it22:33
jcastroSarvatt: that totally works!22:36
Sarvattneed to disable pageflip on fusion then?22:36
jcastroyeah, let me update the bug22:37
jcastroand confirm with the OP22:37
jcastrothere are only 2 fusions shipping right now, I have one and he has the other22:37
Sarvattits a kernel bug but we could flip it over as the default option in the X driver easily until its fixed22:37
SarvattI think i915g wants to be in dri-alternates now with 7.11 :P22:45
RAOFYeah, I think so too.22:45
brobostigon!bug 73009922:46
ubot4`Launchpad bug 730099 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "[i915gm] GPU lockup 0c40b170 (ESR: 0x00000001 IPEHR: 0x02000011) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73009922:46
brobostigonisuffer from that, it not nice, that bug sucks. :(22:47
RAOFHm.  That's not going to be the gen2 relaxed alignment stuff.22:49
* RAOF has a browse.22:49
brobostigoni need a clever man or women to explain to me, whay a gpu lockup is to start, so i know what it is.22:50
bryceh_RAOF, yeah it's that i915/i945 freeze bug that ickle thought the relaxed fence patch would fix22:51
bryceh_brobostigon, it's when the display stops updating, but usually you can still move the mouse and ssh in22:51
RAOF915 isn't gen2, is it?22:51
RAOFOh, bah.  Yes it is :)22:51
Sarvattnope first of the gen322:52
brobostigonbryceh_: ah, i see. yes, i canstill move the mouse and ssh in, yes.22:52
bryceh_brobostigon, if you want a lot more technical details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/InterpretingIntelGpuDump22:52
bryceh_or for just troubleshooting directions (mostly out of date and not relevant for your case) there is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Freeze22:53
brobostigonbryceh_: thank you, how would this be fixed, what can i add onto the bug, to help it get fixed?22:53
bryceh_I think we have a large surplus of debug info at this point ; the next action for this particular bug is blocked waiting on upstream to provide a patch22:54
RAOFIf it were gen2 I'd be tempted to try libdrm 2.4.24, but I don't think that codepath will apply here.22:55
bryceh_RAOF, do you have ideas on other next actions for this?22:55
brobostigonbryceh_: would it be possible to talk to them, to get it moving alittle,?22:55
bryceh_brobostigon, I've already been poking at them, but no response (I think ickle might have been on vacation last week)22:55
brobostigonbryceh_: ok, that is something atleast isnt it, thank you. :)22:56
bryceh_also, since this is like 99% likely to be a bug in kernel drm code rather than X itself, it might be appropriate to try to get kernel team attention onto it22:56
bryceh_brobostigon, one thing to test that might turn up some useful info would be to try reproducing the bug on a non-Ubuntu distro (debian, redhat, etc.)22:57
bryceh_one that also has the 2.6.38 kernel ideally22:57
brobostigonshould i try a new kernel, for example  from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ ?22:57
bryceh_that would demonstrate the bug is or is not due to something particular to the Ubuntu kernel or plumbing layer22:57
RAOFIt might be worth trying the new libdrm anyway.22:57
RAOFI'll throw it up in aubergine.22:57
bryceh_brobostigon, yes, although others have already tested the latest kernel and found it didn't change anything22:58
bryceh_brobostigon, there is also the drm-next builds that the kernel team provides, which may be a better thing to test22:58
bryceh_"I'll throw it up in aubergine."  If I had a sig I'd put that in it.22:58
brobostigonbryceh_: i could try a debian sid, from sd, on this machine. it will take ait of work, but it could be done.22:58
brobostigoninstalling from live usb, too sdhc.22:59
brobostigonanf then booting of sdhc.22:59
bryceh_brobostigon, it could help in case the kernel team isn't looking at it on the assumption that it's an upstream bug, and upstream isn't looking at it on assumption it's a ubuntu-specific issue ;-)22:59
bryceh_fwiw, I have a 945 and have not seen this freeze myself23:00
bryceh_however this i945 seems to be magical and is immune to half the bugs that *should* be affecting it23:00
brobostigonbryceh_: would debiantesting be new enough, and then pulling the kernel from experimental?23:00
bryceh_brobostigon, that seems a reasonable base for testing23:01
bryceh_I don't know what kernel is in experimental, but anything 2.6.38-ish should do the trick23:01
brobostigonbryceh_: ok, i will try that tommrow, and report back, 23:01
bryceh_brobostigon, great, thank you23:01
brobostigonits definatly, the newest stablekernel release.23:02
Sarvattits a dupe of  bug #71509623:02
ubot4`Launchpad bug 715096 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[i945gm] GPU lockup (ESR: 0x00000001 IPEHR: 0x02000011) (affects: 10) (dups: 8) (heat: 185)" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71509623:02
brobostigondifferent ESR and IPEHR.23:02
Sarvattkees: didn't you have that bug too? I thought I remembered you and ickle talking about it23:02
Sarvatt730099 is a dupe of 715096, 730099 isn't your bug?23:03
brobostigoni filed 730099 myself.23:03
keesSarvatt: yeah, I just hit it once ever though23:04
bryceh_fwiw, I suspect ALL of the i915 and i945 lockups are the same bug, even though they differ in ESRs and IPEHRs23:04
keesSarvatt: my really annoying bug is the i915 corruption23:04
bryceh_I think it is a bit hw-specific and maybe conditional-specific as to what error code actually pops up, but my gut says they probably have the same underlying root cause23:04
brobostigonwhat are ESR's and IPEHR's ?23:05
bryceh_brobostigon, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/InterpretingIntelGpuDump23:05
brobostigonbryceh_: is that the same page you pointed me at earlier? i havent managed torread it yet,23:05
bryceh_brobostigon, it is23:06
brobostigonbryceh_: ok, i will read it, for bed time reading. :)23:06
Sarvattkees: ahh ok, wasn't sure if he tossed a magic patch at you that got lost or something maybe, sorry to bug ya :P23:06
brobostigonthank you for you help and explanation everyone, really appreciated.23:11
brobostigongood night everyone.23:11
brobostigonnight bryceh_ 23:12
keesSarvatt: I just wish the corruption bug would get attention :(23:38
Sarvattkees: which?23:38
keesbug 71711423:38
ubot4`Launchpad bug 717114 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Natty) (and 4 other projects) "[i945gm] Screen Corruption with new Xorg stack with terminal programs (affects: 14) (dups: 2) (heat: 70)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71711423:38
Sarvatttime to force myself to use the netbook for a day to reproduce these gen3 problems23:50

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