| Daekdroom | chrisccoulson, hey, that issue with appmenu and apps that can have their windows closed (thanks to indicators) has extended to minimized apps :( | 00:29 |
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| chrisccoulson | ?? | 00:30 |
| Daekdroom | bug #718926 | 00:30 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 718926 in indicator-appmenu (Ubuntu) "Some apps don't integrate to appmenu after having their windows closed" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/718926 | 00:30 |
| Daekdroom | It's happening to minimized applications too | 00:30 |
| chrisccoulson | due to the nature of that bug, that's impossible. it must be a different bug | 00:31 |
| chrisccoulson | (and i'm not seeing it at all) | 00:31 |
| Daekdroom | Have you done today's updates? | 00:31 |
| Daekdroom | It started happening before 3.6.2, I think | 00:31 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, yeah, i've just tried that after restarting my session | 00:32 |
| Daekdroom | How do I reset the unity launcher to its default launchers? | 00:45 |
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| didrocks | good morning | 07:37 |
| oSoMoN | good morning | 08:01 |
| MacSlow | hey everybody | 08:05 |
| zniavre | good morning | 08:14 |
| zniavre | http://i.imgur.com/QEECE.png this is "normal" ? (unity-2D panel) | 08:15 |
| didrocks | kamstrup: ZOMG, I have some time to work on alt F2 now! :) | 08:47 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: teh zhock! | 08:47 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: if you already branched off lp:unity-place-applications you'd better re-pull it because there where quite a lot of refactoring going on in the latest release | 08:48 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: and did you notice how fast app searching is with latest unity+u-p-a? :-D | 08:49 |
| didrocks | kamstrup: yeah, I rebased already :) | 08:50 |
| didrocks | kamstrup: and right! it litteraly rocks! | 08:50 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: sweet :-) so you're using bzr rebase? | 08:51 |
| didrocks | kamstrup: I also love now the "by popularity" order | 08:51 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: yeah, it feels much more natural | 08:51 |
| didrocks | kamstrup: well, I didn't get much time to work on it, so it was easier to uncommit + bzr pull | 08:51 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: that's the manual rebase ;-) | 08:51 |
| didrocks | yeh ;) | 08:51 |
| didrocks | kamstrup: so, you are stripping the exec key in unity-package-search.cc | 08:52 |
| didrocks | kamstrup: I think I'll use that to find the corresponding icon (if one) | 08:52 |
| didrocks | the thing is that you are not keeping the full command line | 08:52 |
| didrocks | like gnome-screenshot --interactive | 08:52 |
| didrocks | and we can maybe have different desktop file with the same basename (see nautilus) but different options | 08:53 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: right, i'm not keeping the full command line because i'm just extracting what I want to be searchable | 08:55 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: we can store the full command line as a value in the index, but I don't think we want to index the --interactive part fx | 08:57 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: by "storing" i basically mean annotating the index entry with non-searchable metadata | 08:57 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: by why not just look up the .desktop file from the UnityPackageInfo.desktop_file ? | 08:58 |
| didrocks | kamstrup: hum? not sure to get you on that | 08:59 |
| didrocks | let's take the nautilus example | 08:59 |
| didrocks | if I type "nautilus", I want a match on nautilus.desktop | 08:59 |
| didrocks | if I type "nautilus --no-desktop", I wans a match on nautilus-home.desktop | 09:00 |
| kamstrup | oh... | 09:00 |
| didrocks | (ok, that's a lazy example, but we can take other examples like evolution which has multiple desktop file) | 09:00 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: that's going to be very tricky | 09:00 |
| didrocks | kamstrup: why? can't we just add the full name and have a match on that? | 09:01 |
| didrocks | full exec name* | 09:01 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: ok - the deal is that "nautilus --no-desktop" is converted intot the query "nautilus AND no AND desktop" | 09:02 |
| didrocks | with Xapian? | 09:03 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: so you'd also get a hit if the user typed "no" | 09:03 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: yes | 09:03 |
| didrocks | kamstrup: should I rewrite a manual parser like the run command dialog one? | 09:03 |
| didrocks | (looking at all desktop file and such? :/) | 09:03 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: atleast that's the default behaviour, you can add manual tweaks over this, but then matters get complex quickly | 09:03 |
| didrocks | "of course", how can it be simple? :) | 09:04 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: but I question the value of having "nautilus --no-desktop" match the home folder icon... | 09:04 |
| kamstrup | that seems like a detail for the fineschmeckers | 09:04 |
| didrocks | kamstrup: well, I think with evolution is make more sense | 09:04 |
| didrocks | like evolution -c mail and evolution -c calendar | 09:04 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: what I think you want is really for the user to type "evo" and then you can autocomplete "evolution -c mail" or "evolution -c calendar" | 09:05 |
| didrocks | or whatever, but anyway, we should try to launch the desktop file if we have it (for bamf matching) and command line directly if we have no match | 09:05 |
| didrocks | right | 09:06 |
| didrocks | but what we want as well, is to get corresponding desktop file if they exist | 09:06 |
| didrocks | so that we can launch the desktop file and not the command line | 09:06 |
| didrocks | and make bamf life easier | 09:06 |
| kamstrup | right | 09:06 |
| didrocks | yeah so, not that easy ;) | 09:07 |
| didrocks | see* | 09:07 |
| didrocks | kamstrup: so, basically, if I can't reuse one of your cache, it's to redo the parsing manually, but I would prefer avoiding that path… | 09:07 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: i probably wouldn't accept patches that takes a path around the xapian index | 09:08 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: doing proper matching on utf-8 strings is tricky | 09:09 |
| didrocks | yeah, I can understand | 09:09 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: and we'd run a big risk of having inconsistent matching patterns | 09:09 |
| didrocks | so avoid xapian and 2nd cache? | 09:09 |
| artfwo | I'm looking for someone to look at the following diff and tell whether I'm on the right track: https://code.launchpad.net/~artfwo/unity/fix-for-728598/+merge/52523 | 09:31 |
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| hadess | does anyone here have access to the original file for the timezone maps? trying to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/651064 | 10:26 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 651064 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Missing pixmap for Australia/Eucla timezone" [Medium,Confirmed] | 10:26 |
| hadess | mpt, mpt_: do you have access to the source files for the timezone map in ubiquity? | 10:43 |
| * mpt scowls at mpt_ | 10:44 | |
| mpt | hadess, try Evan Dandrea (ev in #ubuntu-installer) -- we want to put it in a library so it's easy for time + date settings to reuse | 10:45 |
| mpt | I don't know where the files are, sorry | 10:45 |
| * aruiz enjoys the wonders of Red Hat - Ubuntu collaboration | 10:45 | |
| mpt | hadess, maybe in https://code.launchpad.net/ubiquity | 10:45 |
| mpt | hadess, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk/view/head:/ubiquity/plugins/ubi-timezone.py might be it | 10:48 |
| htorque | gord: hello, should the variable launcher size you just merged already work (i.e., show up in ccsm)? | 10:50 |
| gord | htorque, yes, if you make install and your compiz is set up correctly it will show up in ccsm | 10:50 |
| htorque | gord: thanks, then i'll have to try again, because it's not showing up here (/usr/share/compiz/unityshell.xml contains the icon_size option) | 10:53 |
| gord | htorque, its in the experimental tab if thats any help ;) | 10:53 |
| htorque | htorque: yeah, will give it another try :-) | 10:55 |
| htorque | gord: was using the wrong unity plugin (had one left in ~/.compiz-1), works fine now :-) | 10:58 |
| gord | :) | 10:58 |
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| hadess | mpt: no, those aren't the "source" files | 11:11 |
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| hadess | mpt: i wanted the original files for the images used there | 11:11 |
| mpt | hadess, I don't know sorry. ev will know. | 11:12 |
| hadess | mpt: the images in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk/files/head:/pixmaps/timezone/ are resized | 11:12 |
| hadess | mpt: thanks | 11:12 |
| didrocks | kamstrup: is there an easy way to transform a string separated by : in a iterator in val? | 12:10 |
| didrocks | somethink like foo.split(":") in python | 12:10 |
| didrocks | vala* | 12:10 |
| aruiz | didrocks, there should be a foo.split function actually | 12:11 |
| aruiz | didrocks, http://library.gnome.org/devel/glib/unstable/glib-String-Utility-Functions.html#g-strsplit | 12:11 |
| didrocks | aruiz: oh realy? awesome! :) | 12:11 |
| didrocks | thankks, looking | 12:11 |
| aruiz | didrocks, look for that function somewhere in the vapis | 12:11 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: maxtokens arg is optional in vala | 12:11 |
| rsajdok | Which version of qt used unity-2d? | 12:12 |
| didrocks | kamstrup: sorry, I don't get you ;) I just want to iterate on the directoy in Environment.get_variable("PATH") | 12:12 |
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| ogra | rsajdok, 4.7.1 and 4.7.2 iirc | 12:12 |
| kamstrup | didrocks: foreach (var path in pathvar.split(":")) { do_stuff (path); } | 12:13 |
| didrocks | yeah, with the split function then! | 12:13 |
| didrocks | awesome :) | 12:13 |
| ogra | (might be older than 4.7.1, whatever was default in maverick) | 12:13 |
| rsajdok | ogra: thanks | 12:19 |
| rsajdok | 1 | 12:32 |
| seiflotfy_ | senior njpatel | 12:33 |
| seiflotfy_ | :) | 12:33 |
| Mark__T | m_conley_away: how to build messagingmenu-extension | 13:04 |
| njpatel | seiflotfy_, dude! | 13:10 |
| njpatel | I was unwell over the weekend so I didn't get much hacking done | 13:10 |
| seiflotfy_ | njpatel, did u see my branch yet | 13:10 |
| seiflotfy_ | CRAP | 13:10 |
| seiflotfy_ | better now? | 13:10 |
| njpatel | bear with me, I'm going to try and do something for thurs | 13:10 |
| njpatel | yeah, much better after some pills :) | 13:10 |
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| * bcurtiswx waves to room | 14:01 | |
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| artfwo | DBO, could I poke you a little more about the trashcan bug? | 14:38 |
| Mark__T | m_conley: how to build messagingmenu-extension | 14:43 |
| m_conley | Mark__T: hey - the build process is a little tricky...installing the addon from it's AMO page is probably your best bet. | 14:43 |
| Mark__T | well I don't have indicate.so.5 yet | 14:44 |
| Mark__T | m_conley: still with indicate.so.4 and libdbusmenu-glib.so.1 | 14:45 |
| m_conley | Mark__T: hm...not willing to upgrade I suppose? :p | 14:45 |
| Mark__T | need to check if that doesn't break our whole stack :-) | 14:46 |
| m_conley | Mark__T: alright, so I'll assume you have the code checked out, and you have the thunderbird-3.1.9-dev package installed, along with the build dependencies for Thunderbird...is that correct? | 14:49 |
| mterry | njpatel, hello! I'm working on mnemonics for appmenu, and first things first, I'm adding mnemonics for non-top entries. but the underline is always showing, not just when alt is pressed. Is unity doing something special with the gtk-auto-mnemonics property? | 14:50 |
| mterry | njpatel, (or using a style that might do something special with it) | 14:51 |
| njpatel | mterry, "non top entries", you mean inside the actual popup menu? | 14:56 |
| Mark__T | m_conley: not yet, but I'm on it | 14:56 |
| mterry | njpatel, yeah, they weren't getting their mnemonics set either | 14:56 |
| mterry | njpatel, then I'll tackle showing the menu with alt and all that | 14:56 |
| m_conley | Mark__T: you'll also need autoconf2.13 | 14:57 |
| mterry | njpatel, you can see the always-underline behavior with the firefox appmenu too | 14:58 |
| Mark__T | exactly 2.13 or at least 2.13? | 14:58 |
| m_conley | Mark__T: exactly 2.13. apt-get install autoconf2.13 should do it. | 14:59 |
| Mark__T | not on a debian based system | 14:59 |
| Mark__T | let me check if we have that | 14:59 |
| m_conley | Mark__T: oh, you're on debian...you have the messaging menu working on Debian? | 14:59 |
| m_conley | cool. :) | 14:59 |
| Mark__T | no not on anything debian related, I'm on foresight | 15:00 |
| Mark__T | m_conley: we're using the indicator thing for a while, so we need a way to make thunderbird behave .-) | 15:02 |
| m_conley | Mark__T: hrm...not 100% familiar with that distro... cool that you got libindicator up and running though. | 15:02 |
| m_conley | Mark__T: let me know when you have your dependencies installed, and I'll give you the next step. | 15:02 |
| Mark__T | kenvandine: did it, some years ago :-D | 15:03 |
| kenvandine | hey Mark__T | 15:03 |
| Mark__T | m_conley: need to leave anyway, I try to remember, coming back on this tomorrow | 15:03 |
| m_conley | Mark__T: coolbeans. See you then! | 15:04 |
| Mark__T | hi kenvandine btw | 15:04 |
| Mark__T | m_conley: thx | 15:04 |
| njpatel | mterry, we don't actually touch the actual GtkMenus that popup, they are just given to us by the indicator and shown from the service (not inside unity) | 15:06 |
| njpatel | mterry, however the service disables appmenu itself, so maybe thats why that code isn't being used? | 15:06 |
| mterry | "disables appmenu itself"? | 15:07 |
| njpatel | UBUNTU_MENUPROXY="" | 15:10 |
| njpatel | before gtk_init | 15:10 |
| njpatel | mterry, so if the "only show mnemonics when alt is pressed" is in the appmenu loadable module, then it's not going to effect the indicators loaded by the service | 15:11 |
| mterry | njpatel, no, the "only show mnemonics on alt" is part of most standard gtk themes | 15:12 |
| njpatel | okay, I didn't realise it was controlled by the theme | 15:13 |
| Daekdroom | Was unity rewritten from scratch when it moved to compiz? | 15:14 |
| njpatel | just the views | 15:14 |
| njpatel | Daekdroom, ^ | 15:15 |
| Daekdroom | Ok, thanks. | 15:15 |
| njpatel | mterry, the other thing might be that those menus aren't part of a GtkMenuBar | 15:15 |
| mterry | njpatel, hmm, maybe | 15:16 |
| mterry | njpatel, I think part of the theme. It's controllable by .rc files and is part of GtkSettings | 15:16 |
| njpatel | Okay...maybe at least re-enable the menuproxy and see if it works? just to rule it out :) | 15:17 |
| mterry | njpatel, well, I'll worry about it later. I'll get mnemonics working and then deal with them being pretty | 15:17 |
| njpatel | mterry, are you also adding the stuff to the indicator-appmenu to make it signal that it needs to be presented? | 15:19 |
| mterry | njpatel, I'm now looking at such things. I believe the Status property is supposed to do that, right? | 15:20 |
| njpatel | mterry, well indicator-object has a "show-now-changed" signal that I'm waiting to connect to from the panel so I can 1. Show the appmenu to the user from behind the titlename and 2. Show the mnenomics at the same time | 15:24 |
| njpatel | mterry, I'm hoping through the maze of *indicat*, that signal is emitted when the Alt key is pressed or released :) | 15:25 |
| njpatel | AND | 15:25 |
| njpatel | and released* | 15:25 |
| njpatel | :) | 15:25 |
| mterry | njpatel, ok... emitted by the appmenu IndicatorObject for consumption by unity service? | 15:26 |
| njpatel | yep, exactly | 15:26 |
| mterry | njpatel, is panel code there yet? | 15:26 |
| njpatel | and then we can to our bidness. | 15:26 |
| njpatel | mterry, nope, but I'm itching to add it :) | 15:26 |
| mterry | njpatel, ok, will let you know when I have something. Thanks for the pointer. One last thing though, actually. The entries I see on the panel are drawn by Unity from information in the IndicatorEntryObjectBlahBlah right? They don't show mnemonics but seem to have info. Should I worry about that, or is that exactly what you're talkinga bout adding once I do the "show-now-changed" signal? | 15:27 |
| mterry | "seem to have the info they would need to" | 15:28 |
| njpatel | mterry, no need to worry about that, the main thing that I'll need to re-check is if I can get the original string with the '_' for the mnenomic from gtk-label | 15:29 |
| njpatel | if I am not getting that already | 15:29 |
| * njpatel checks | 15:30 | |
| mterry | njpatel, you aren't getting that this second, but a one line diff on libdbusmenu will give it | 15:30 |
| mterry | njpatel, that'll be part of my merge | 15:30 |
| njpatel | shweet | 15:30 |
| mterry | njpatel, I was just confused that now that I'm giving it, the underlines aren't showing up | 15:31 |
| njpatel | then that'll at least break the rendering of the panel a bit (as it will always show the underscore),but I'll fix that | 15:31 |
| njpatel | mterry, your giving it to the panel? | 15:31 |
| njpatel | or just the gtkmenu? | 15:31 |
| mterry | njpatel, they always show up on the popups, but never in the panel | 15:31 |
| njpatel | actually, let's not get into this | 15:31 |
| mterry | njpatel, heh | 15:31 |
| mterry | I'll just go and work on show-now-changed | 15:31 |
| njpatel | mterry, PanelIndicatorObjectEntryView.cpp::fix_string ;) | 15:31 |
| mterry | njpatel, ah great! OK, then all is intentional | 15:32 |
| njpatel | yeah, we'd "show" it when we get that signal | 15:32 |
| njpatel | otherwise it would render as it is now | 15:32 |
| bcurtiswx | is there a shortcut for the launcher that is an app has many instances you can bring them all up in front of you to choose? | 15:38 |
| bcurtiswx | s/is/if | 15:39 |
| njpatel | bcurtiswx, Super+$index_of_launcher if it's focused, or do it twice if it isn't | 15:47 |
| njpatel | I think we're missing a key combo for window spread, should flag that | 15:47 |
| bcurtiswx | njpatel, sounds good :) thx | 15:49 |
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| mterry | njpatel, show-now-changed takes an Entry object? I had been working under the assumption it was IndicatorObject-global | 16:04 |
| njpatel | mterry, interesting, I would have expected the same | 16:06 |
| njpatel | tedg, ^^ | 16:06 |
| njpatel | I think he's on a call atm | 16:07 |
| tedg | njpatel, mterry, show_now_changed is (object, entry, boolean, pointer) | 16:08 |
| mterry | right, but what does the entry mean there? I thought it was whether the whole object needs to be shown or not | 16:08 |
| mterry | tedg, ^ | 16:08 |
| tedg | mterry, No, for indicator-appmenu it would signal for all of them, but something like indicator-application it'd do individuals for those that are setting their state to attention. | 16:10 |
| tedg | mterry, We want that for cases where the indicators have to be hidden on smaller screens. | 16:11 |
| tedg | mterry, So we know which should *really* be shown. | 16:11 |
| mterry | tedg, OK, got it. So in my appmenu case, I just iterate the entries. Simple enough, and I get the point | 16:11 |
| njpatel | oh, so I'll get that once per entry? | 16:14 |
| njpatel | sweet | 16:14 |
| * tedg knows that signals make njpatel happy, which is why we send lots of them :) | 16:20 | |
| fta | lamalex, hi, just updated bug 728428 | 16:21 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 728428 in unity (Ubuntu) "unity messes up with workspaces" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728428 | 16:21 |
| njpatel | Hehe | 16:23 |
| Daekdroom | Has anyone done a bug report on appmenu losing minimized application menus? | 16:24 |
| njpatel | Daekdroom, yep, it was discussed this morning, I think kenvandine had the fix | 16:39 |
| Daekdroom | Great. | 16:39 |
| kenvandine | njpatel, not that one | 16:40 |
| njpatel | Oh | 16:42 |
| njpatel | chrisccoulson, was mentioning it this morning | 16:42 |
| lamalex | didrocks, can we do mail stuff today please? | 16:43 |
| didrocks | lamalex: in meeting right now | 16:43 |
| lamalex | me too | 16:43 |
| danyR | didrocks: the FFe in Unity is related to modal-dialogs, mutter (and OSX)-style? | 16:56 |
| didrocks | danyR: modal dialogs, more info in some days, don't really have the time to discuss that :): | 16:56 |
| danyR | didrocks: sure, no problem. sorry, go and get unity rocking :) | 16:57 |
| didrocks | :) | 16:57 |
| lamalex | ok asking again: Is alt+letter working for anyone to access menus in Unity? | 17:09 |
| kenvandine | lamalex, not for me | 17:10 |
| lamalex | thanks kenvandine | 17:10 |
| kenvandine | lamalex, been feeling ignored? | 17:10 |
| * kenvandine shows some love | 17:10 | |
| * lamalex is needy | 17:11 | |
| lamalex | Wonder if it's working for anyone | 17:12 |
| lamalex | I've got a bug report from someone who says it works normally but when he changes his layout to swap super/alt alt+letter stops working | 17:12 |
| lamalex | but alt-tab still works | 17:12 |
| mterry | njpatel, see https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/indicator-appmenu/emit-show-now-changed/+merge/52583 and the two related merges linked there | 17:14 |
| mterry | njpatel, take it away! | 17:14 |
| njpatel | mterry, sweet! | 17:14 |
| njpatel | mterry, rock dude, I'll have a look as soon as I'm done with my current c++ headache | 17:15 |
| lamalex | vish, do papercuts use tags? | 17:30 |
| lamalex | jcastro, shold unity papercuts also get bitesize tags? | 17:30 |
| vish | lamalex: "bitesize" tags? | 17:30 |
| vish | lamalex: if it is simple bug fix sure | 17:31 |
| lamalex | vish, in unity we have "bitesize bugs" which are bugs that have easier fixes for new contribs, but I'm not really sure HOW small is too small for bitesize | 17:31 |
| lamalex | a bug like "missing ellipsis" is a papercut, but it might not be really what jcastro wants for bitesize | 17:31 |
| lamalex | bitesize might really be more for coding bugs | 17:32 |
| vish | yea, bitesizes are like bigger papercuts | 17:32 |
| lamalex | yah, so for papercuts do I just tag? | 17:32 |
| lamalex | or is there another process | 17:32 |
| vish | lamalex: you need to add via the "also affect project" | 17:32 |
| lamalex | k | 17:32 |
| lamalex | thanks | 17:35 |
| jcastro | oh cool | 17:35 |
| jcastro | I'll mention papercuts in my report today | 17:35 |
| seiflotfy_ | DBO, can i ask the laucnher which ".desktop" files are visible ? | 17:37 |
| DBO | seiflotfy_, not yet, soon | 17:38 |
| seiflotfy_ | DBO come on I want ot bring the docky jumplists | 17:38 |
| seiflotfy_ | to unity | 17:38 |
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| aruiz | kenvandine, just rolled a tarball | 17:59 |
| kenvandine | aruiz, cool, i'll update it :) | 18:20 |
| mainerror | jcastro, thought it might be a good idea to get in here for direct feedback on the proofreading | 19:02 |
| mainerror | oh that works too thanks you didrocks ;) | 19:07 |
| didrocks | mainerror: thanks for your detailed answer :) | 19:08 |
| didrocks | nice to see users digging into it! | 19:09 |
| mainerror | oh well I'm trying to dig even deeper but at the moment I still have to get a great picture of the entire code | 19:09 |
| didrocks | mainerror: do not hesitate if you need any help :) | 19:10 |
| didrocks | ok, dinner time right now! see you tomorrow :) | 19:10 |
| mainerror | oh yea right one question. Is there any documentation I can check for the dconf form-factor string format? | 19:13 |
| didrocks | mainerror: you mean in general or just for the unity key? | 19:15 |
| mainerror | well I guess both :) | 19:15 |
| mainerror | my browser loves bookmarks :D | 19:15 |
| didrocks | http://library.gnome.org/devel/glib/unstable/glib-GVariant.html | 19:16 |
| didrocks | it's a gvariant type | 19:16 |
| didrocks | (see also links for detail in the format) | 19:16 |
| mainerror | ok cool, thanks | 19:16 |
| didrocks | for unity, it's just a list of strings defining the order and what's it in the glib | 19:17 |
| didrocks | the other is just a key for the latest migration and unity to decide to call or not the script, it should never be changed manually :) | 19:17 |
| didrocks | (or normally the script won't hurt, but we never know ;)) | 19:17 |
| didrocks | ok, really going now, see you! | 19:17 |
| mainerror | thanks bye | 19:18 |
| bdrung | what component's fault can it be if audacity has problems when running Unity, but works great with the classic desktop (bug #731451)? | 19:37 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 731451 in audacity (Ubuntu) "audacity not working in Ubuntu 11.04 Alpha3" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/731451 | 19:37 |
| Daekdroom | bdrung, appmenu's fault | 19:44 |
| Daekdroom | it also happens in classic gnome if you use appmenu there | 19:44 |
| Daekdroom | I tested it right now | 19:44 |
| bdrung | Daekdroom: thanks for figuring that out. | 19:48 |
| bdrung | Daekdroom: will you comment the bug? | 19:48 |
| Daekdroom | bdrung, done it ;) | 19:48 |
| nhaines | The titlebars in my windowed applicatoins are not being updated (say in Firefox when I navigate sites) until the window loses or receives focus. | 19:57 |
| nhaines | When the window is maximized, the window title changes in real time. | 19:57 |
| nhaines | Is this more likely to be a Compiz bug or a Unity bug and under what package do I file this? :) | 19:58 |
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| lamalex | nhaines, that's a unity bug | 20:23 |
| lamalex | it should have been fixed a while back though | 20:23 |
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| LLStarks | hi, is there any way to completely reset unity that isn't unity --reset? | 20:39 |
| LLStarks | i need to restore lost launcher icons | 20:39 |
| lamalex | LLStarks, try this gsettings reset com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites | 20:47 |
| lamalex | in a terminal | 20:47 |
| lamalex | let me know if that works please, I'm testing it on you :P | 20:49 |
| jcastro | I can test | 20:49 |
| jcastro | is it supposed to be instant apply? | 20:49 |
| lamalex | erm, i dont know | 20:49 |
| lamalex | see if the gsettings key was reset | 20:49 |
| lamalex | gsettings get com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites | 20:50 |
| jcastro | it was | 20:50 |
| jcastro | I think I would just need to log out and back in? | 20:50 |
| jcastro | or perhaps do that BEFORE a unity --reset | 20:51 |
| jcastro | lamalex: yep, it's not instant | 20:51 |
| jcastro | works though | 20:51 |
| lamalex | ya | 20:51 |
| lamalex | k | 20:51 |
| jcastro | you just need to do it before the --reset | 20:51 |
| lamalex | i put in my answer to do the gsettings first | 20:51 |
| lamalex | perfect :P | 20:51 |
| LLStarks | lamalex, jcastro, the gsettings command is insufficient | 21:01 |
| LLStarks | it adds almost everything on your desktop to the launcher | 21:01 |
| jcastro | hmmm | 21:03 |
| jcastro | I wonder if it's running the autoimporter thing again? | 21:03 |
| LLStarks | there's still no usc button | 21:03 |
| LLStarks | or was there even one to begin with? | 21:04 |
| jcastro | it's supposed to be there I think | 21:04 |
| jcastro | I don't have one | 21:04 |
| jcastro | what did it add from your desktop | 21:04 |
| jcastro | do you have like .desktop files on there? | 21:04 |
| LLStarks | any custom launchers on my desktop | 21:05 |
| LLStarks | like pkilling gnome-panel | 21:05 |
| LLStarks | or metacity --replace | 21:05 |
| jcastro | ok so you have launchers on your desktop already then right? | 21:06 |
| LLStarks | yes | 21:06 |
| jcastro | ['nautilus-home.desktop', 'firefox.desktop', 'ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk.desktop', 'tomboy.desktop'] | 21:06 |
| jcastro | do you have those on your launcher? | 21:06 |
| LLStarks | yes | 21:07 |
| jcastro | it should have those + whatever you have on your desktop or panel | 21:07 |
| LLStarks | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/65896468/launcher.png | 21:07 |
| jcastro | so if you want it totally stock, move the .desktop files on your desktop into a folder or something temporarily, reset everything, and then move them back | 21:07 |
| LLStarks | after pruning the unwanted stuff | 21:07 |
| LLStarks | so there shouldn't be a usc button? | 21:08 |
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| jcastro | not right now | 21:08 |
| jcastro | I am pretty sure it's supposed to be there though | 21:08 |
| lamalex | jcastro, um are you sure? it's in the gsettings schema | 21:09 |
| LLStarks | ah, stupid unity website made me paranoid with the mockups | 21:09 |
| jcastro | I can ask didrocks tomorrow if that changed from UDS, iirc USC was supposed to be there | 21:09 |
| lamalex | oh wait no it's not | 21:09 |
| LLStarks | it should be there, my god. after all the work that's been put into it. | 21:09 |
| jcastro | lamalex: it's supposed to be according to the spec, but that might have changed | 21:09 |
| lamalex | it was removed from the gsettings schema at some point, seems like that is one that should be there | 21:09 |
| jcastro | I am willing to bet it's just a bug | 21:09 |
| lamalex | fair enough- but that command /is/ resetting to default | 21:09 |
| lamalex | just the defaults might be out of date | 21:10 |
| lamalex | or have changed | 21:10 |
| LLStarks | bug 731018 por favor | 21:10 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 731018 in unity (Ubuntu) "No dedicated launcher button for Software Center" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/731018 | 21:10 |
| LLStarks | on the subject of the launcher, is there any solution for adequate replacement of preferences and administration? i'd like to see something like ubuntu control center or a dedicated menu. | 21:11 |
| jcastro | currently you need drill down to "system" in the Applications Place | 21:12 |
| LLStarks | i guess i'll just have to see what a month of polish brings. i guess pretty scrollbars that might break trough-borders are more important. | 21:16 |
| jcastro | kamstrup's working on the dash improvements fulltime | 21:17 |
| jcastro | though tbh I just search for what I need | 21:17 |
| LLStarks | search is nice if you know what you're looking for | 21:17 |
| Omega | I'd like to be able to resize mine. | 21:18 |
| Omega | It takes the whole screen here. | 21:18 |
| jcastro | Omega: yeah me too | 21:18 |
| LLStarks | window decorator crashes, no "show desktop" button, and unity refusing to hide itself are just too much to deal with at times. | 21:19 |
| Daekdroom | Fullscreen Dash is so slow here. | 21:19 |
| Daekdroom | LLStarks, try Super + D | 21:19 |
| jcastro | they just nailed one of the autohide weirdness ones this week | 21:19 |
| LLStarks | :D | 21:20 |
| LLStarks | nice | 21:20 |
| jcastro | but it's not quite there yet | 21:20 |
| Daekdroom | I like the way it's improving, but what bothers me is how its looks are done. | 21:21 |
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| Omega | Oh, they fixed the hide weirdness? | 21:25 |
| Omega | Like 5 minutes ago I switched to autohide | 21:25 |
| Omega | because I hated unity stealing focus | 21:25 |
| jcastro | it feels mostly gone | 21:25 |
| jcastro | it's not as unhiding as before | 21:26 |
| nmarques | kenvandine, last patch on dbusmenu fixed the Me Menu issues ;) awesome job, my stuff is bugless now :) | 22:02 |
| nmarques | s|my|our | 22:02 |
| kenvandine | haha... not bugless :) | 22:03 |
| kenvandine | you just haven't seen them yet :-p | 22:03 |
| jcastro | heh | 22:04 |
| nmarques | kenvandine, it's working for me ;) | 22:07 |
| nmarques | kenvandine, I'm freezing this for 11.4, and will start working out for GNOME3 | 22:08 |
| kenvandine | :) | 22:10 |
| RAOF | Gah. Does compiz really need a stack 50 frames deep? | 22:13 |
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| Amaranth | RAOF: at least one for every plugin loaded | 22:18 |
| Amaranth | RAOF: if you crash inside unityshell add 5-10 to that easy | 22:18 |
| LLStarks | daekdroom, anything equivalent to alt+f2? i need to access folders quickly like i did with metacity. | 22:19 |
| Daekdroom | LLStarks, not currently | 22:19 |
| Daekdroom | iirc, I read in Launchpad they plan to give dash a function to run commands. | 22:19 |
| LLStarks | time is getting tight isn't it? wouldn't it have been easier to deploy unity mutter while building unity compiz as a branch project? | 22:24 |
| Daekdroom | I suspect that would require a move to GTK+3 | 22:25 |
| LLStarks | wasn't une mutter? | 22:26 |
| RAOF | Yes. But you may have noticed that performance sucked. | 22:26 |
| LLStarks | ah. that's a deal breaker then. | 22:27 |
| jcastro | alt-f2 should be almost ready | 22:29 |
| jcastro | I think didrocks was waiting for a bug to be fixed | 22:29 |
| Daekdroom | Is disabling appmenu planed at all to be an option for Unity? | 22:51 |
| aruiz | Daekdroom, why do you ask? :-) | 22:53 |
| Daekdroom | Somebody is wondering about that in #ubuntu+1 | 22:53 |
| LLStarks | memory leaks i suppose | 22:55 |
| Daekdroom | Those are everywhere :( | 22:55 |
| LLStarks | no reason for appmenu to take up 1MB per use and climb to 700+MB | 22:55 |
| Daekdroom | But no, the guy just doesn't like it | 22:55 |
| aruiz | LLStarks, if it happens, there's a reason | 22:57 |
| aruiz | :P | 22:57 |
| Daekdroom | aruiz, but there is no legit reason | 22:57 |
| LLStarks | bug 722972 por favor | 23:01 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 722972 in unity (Ubuntu) "small memory leak in unity-panel-service per use of global menu" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/722972 | 23:01 |
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