| jfi | it is generated since maverick during boot | 00:33 |
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| LLStarks | hi, how do i reset the unity launcher? | 00:43 |
| LLStarks | or remove its config files | 00:43 |
| Daekdroom | LLStarks, what's wrong with it? | 00:43 |
| Daekdroom | As far as I know, the only thing you can edit is its behaviour (never hide, autohide etc) and the launchers | 00:44 |
| LLStarks | i want to restore default icons | 00:44 |
| LLStarks | and there's no software center icon | 00:45 |
| LLStarks | which is shameful | 00:45 |
| Daekdroom | I don't quite remember how it looks by default.. | 00:45 |
| lwizardl | is there anyone working on fixing the Intel HDMI audio card support for 11.04 ? Just wondering since I have this and on both versions of 10.X (04/10) its partially broken | 00:46 |
| histo | lwizardl: hav eyou checked launchpad? | 00:51 |
| lwizardl | histo, nope I asked in the regular channel and was directed here | 00:52 |
| arand | !lp | histo | 00:56 |
| ubottu | histo: Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/ | 00:56 |
| arand | Oh | 00:56 |
| arand | !lp | lwizardl | 00:56 |
| ubottu | lwizardl: Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/ | 00:56 |
| lwizardl | thanks | 01:03 |
| micahg | anyone see a stray soffice.bin process on natty? | 01:30 |
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| judgen | Howdy | 04:24 |
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| zniavre | http://i.imgur.com/QEECE.png > i still get some wrong "display" on unity-2d panel | 08:18 |
| twager | !nvidia | 08:32 |
| ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | The ATI and nVidia binary drivers may not currently be installable. | 08:32 |
| zniavre_ | does nvidia-173 works on natty please? | 09:21 |
| susundberg | no | 09:22 |
| zniavre_ | susundberg, thank you | 09:26 |
| zniavre_ | nouveau can handle unity (3d) ? | 09:26 |
| RawChid | Hi, I'm translating Ubuntu. Can anybody tell me what "Apps" are? | 10:00 |
| Tm_T | applications | 10:00 |
| RawChid | Are those the same as "Applications" | 10:00 |
| RawChid | These words are used in Unity and I thought about iPhone/iPad Apps. | 10:00 |
| RawChid | Examples: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/unity/+pots/unity/nl/+translate?show=untranslated | 10:01 |
| Tm_T | Apps is just shorthand for Applications, same pretty much everywhere | 10:01 |
| RawChid | Yeah, I was aware of that. But just to be sure | 10:02 |
| RawChid | Is there a reason to switch to using the word "App" instead of Applications? | 10:02 |
| Tm_T | it's shorter, and widely used shorthand | 10:04 |
| Tm_T | can't think of any other reason, but cannot think of any reason why not either | 10:04 |
| RawChid | Well, for me (as a Dutch guy) it's a bit confusing. | 10:05 |
| RawChid | We haven't a shorter translation for it, so in Dutch it'll remains "Application" | 10:05 |
| visual1ce | hi | 10:20 |
| alexanbj | in unity alpha 3 functionality to resize the dash was added | 10:41 |
| alexanbj | but how do i do that? it fills the entire view here and theres nothing to grab in the bottom right corner | 10:41 |
| callaghan | alexanbj: afaik, on netbooks it's always fullscreen | 10:42 |
| callaghan | alexanbj: otherwise, there should be a button to drag at the lower right corner... | 10:42 |
| alexanbj | aha, so that's why | 10:43 |
| alexanbj | but laptop != netbook? :p | 10:43 |
| callaghan | alexanbj: it depends on the screen resolution; my netbook has 1024x600 ;) | 10:45 |
| callaghan | alexanbj: here the dash is fullscreen by default; otherwise, it should look like the pictures here, and you should be able to resize it: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/ubuntu-11-04-alpha-3-released/ | 10:46 |
| visual1ce | hi | 11:41 |
| visual1ce | is there any way to rearrange the panel... i'd like the max, min and close buttons on the top right | 11:44 |
| visual1ce | in unity | 11:45 |
| visual1ce | natty | 11:45 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy | 13:39 |
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| veloc1ty | hi.. is there a way to get fglrx running with natty yet? | 15:54 |
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| insanity99 | hey guys, is unity optional? | 17:41 |
| ior3k | insanity99: in what sense? | 17:42 |
| insanity99 | can i still use gnome | 17:42 |
| IdleOne | the classic desktop, yes. | 17:42 |
| insanity99 | unity isn't for me | 17:42 |
| ior3k | insanity99: yup, just choose "classic desktop" as your session | 17:42 |
| ior3k | I'm still using gnome, too, but I'll probably jump to unity-2d | 17:43 |
| insanity99 | ok, think they will be slowly phasing it out or gnome will have continued support? | 17:43 |
| ior3k | I hear it supports xmonad | 17:43 |
| ior3k | well, gnome2 will be discontinued at some point | 17:44 |
| ior3k | I think ubuntu will still provide gnome3 support | 17:44 |
| ior3k | for the record, I think developing unity was a great move | 17:46 |
| insanity99 | yeah, i love gnome. with gnome i need no desktop shortcuts, i can find anything i need real quick | 17:46 |
| insanity99 | really? why? i dont hate it or anything, just want to know your opinion] | 17:46 |
| ior3k | because they're being bold enough to try new things | 17:47 |
| Daekdroom | GNOME3 is not going to be included in Ubuntu 11.04 | 17:47 |
| Daekdroom | Gnome Shell (which is only part of Gnome 3, not all of it) will be available in the repos in the future | 17:47 |
| ior3k | oh, from reading Mark's posts I got the impression it would | 17:47 |
| ior3k | I'm not the most informed person about all things Ubuntu, though | 17:48 |
| Daekdroom | All Gnome apps are still 2.32 in 11.04 | 17:48 |
| ior3k | Daekdroom: that's due to stability concerns, right? I assume Gnome3 will eventually be included? | 17:48 |
| Daekdroom | ior3k, not in 11.04 | 17:49 |
| insanity99 | aint broken, dont fix it i guess | 17:49 |
| ior3k | right, I mean after that | 17:49 |
| Daekdroom | In 11.10 they will, iirc | 17:49 |
| Daekdroom | There's a blueprint regarding that somewhere in launchpad | 17:49 |
| Daekdroom | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-gnome3 | 17:49 |
| insanity99 | whens the next lts? | 17:49 |
| Daekdroom | 12.04 | 17:50 |
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| insanity99 | ok | 17:50 |
| BUGabundo | evening | 18:58 |
| MTecknology | gall darnit.. apty go breaky | 19:13 |
| genii-around | Hm. I wonder if the " * Work around build failure in bash-static on amd64." in changelog for bash_4.2-0ubuntu2 possibly what's causing this other non-writing of .bash_history thing at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash/+bug/728843 | 19:14 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 728843 in bash (Ubuntu) "After bash 4.2 update in Natty, .bash_history is no longer updated when terminal window is closed using the window manager's "X" button" [Undecided,New] | 19:14 |
| MTecknology | looks like vim-runtime has yet to be published | 19:14 |
| MTecknology | Maybe when I get back from a short trip (~1hr) i'll be able to update vim | 19:16 |
| Daekdroom | I better stop subscribing to every bug I encounter in natty | 19:17 |
| techbreak | I don't like unity in natty .. how do i remove it and get maverick desktop look ? | 19:47 |
| Daekdroom | techbreak, in login screen, pick Classic Gnome instead of ubuntu desktop edition | 19:48 |
| techbreak | Daekdroom: i have "log in automatically" in my ubuntu | 19:49 |
| Daekdroom | techbreak, disable that once. I think that after you pick Classic Gnome one time, it'll default to it. | 19:49 |
| BUGabundo | no need | 19:50 |
| BUGabundo | just log out | 19:50 |
| BUGabundo | and pick | 19:50 |
| techbreak | Daekdroom: ok | 19:50 |
| Daekdroom | Or that. | 19:50 |
| techbreak | BUGabundo: log out and pick? | 19:50 |
| BUGabundo | yeah | 19:50 |
| BUGabundo | logout | 19:50 |
| techbreak | BUGabundo: ok I got. :) ok | 19:50 |
| BUGabundo | click on the users | 19:50 |
| BUGabundo | then before passwork | 19:50 |
| BUGabundo | choose the Window Manager to use | 19:51 |
| BUGabundo | on the bottom bar | 19:51 |
| techbreak | BUGabundo: okie thanks I will check that :) | 19:51 |
| markfletcher | anyone had any issues with networkmanager breaking? | 19:52 |
| drc | BUGabundo: Just out of curiosity...what if one has "auto login" enabled, how would one change that? | 19:52 |
| techbreak | I have one more problem with another laptop | 19:52 |
| BUGabundo | markfletcher: wfm | 19:53 |
| BUGabundo | drc: its stil timed | 19:53 |
| drc | BUGabundo: thanks | 19:53 |
| techbreak | when i give update-manager -d in alt+f2 the update of natty doesn't show :( | 19:53 |
| techbreak | how do i upgade it then ? | 19:53 |
| BUGabundo | techbreak: do-release-upgrade -d | 19:54 |
| BUGabundo | but are you on natty alreadty? | 19:54 |
| BUGabundo | or maverick ? | 19:54 |
| techbreak | BUGabundo: one laptop natty one maverick | 19:54 |
| techbreak | i want to change maverick one to natty now BUGabundo | 19:55 |
| BUGabundo | natty won't have anything to upgrade to | 19:55 |
| BUGabundo | maverick should work | 19:55 |
| techbreak | BUGabundo: no not that one another one | 19:55 |
| BUGabundo | remove any 3rd party ppa or repo | 19:55 |
| techbreak | ok M cheking ur command | 19:55 |
| techbreak | BUGabundo: how do i remove that ? | 19:55 |
| BUGabundo | sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | 19:55 |
| BUGabundo | and comment (add #) each line that isn't the oficial repo | 19:56 |
| techbreak | do-release-upgrade -d is not working :( | 19:56 |
| BUGabundo | that's strange | 19:57 |
| BUGabundo | it *should* work | 19:57 |
| BUGabundo | sorry, but not sure what to say or guide you | 19:57 |
| BUGabundo | please file a bug, so the mantainer can take a look | 19:58 |
| BUGabundo | ubuntu-bug do-release-upgrade | 19:58 |
| BUGabundo | $ ubuntu-bug do-release-upgrade | 19:58 |
| techbreak | BUGabundo: okie | 19:58 |
| techbreak | one more thing | 19:58 |
| techbreak | which lines to add # ? | 19:58 |
| techbreak | all the stuffs which don;t have maverick in it ? | 19:59 |
| Daekdroom | BUGabundo, techbreak, it comments all the unnoficial repos by default | 20:00 |
| BUGabundo | well, even those with maverick can be comment, cause they could be from PPA | 20:00 |
| BUGabundo | Daekdroom: what does? the upgrade tool? yes | 20:00 |
| BUGabundo | but he is not able to run it | 20:00 |
| Daekdroom | It remove all PPAs before upgrading too | 20:00 |
| Daekdroom | Oh. | 20:01 |
| Daekdroom | He's going to do it manually? | 20:01 |
| BUGabundo | hope not | 20:01 |
| techbreak | http://paste.ubuntu.com/577587/ | 20:01 |
| BUGabundo | I don't recommend it | 20:01 |
| BUGabundo | specially if he is not able to work his way around it | 20:01 |
| techbreak | BUGabundo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577587/ | 20:02 |
| BUGabundo | techbreak: sincerely , based on this little talk, and all your questions, I don't feel like you should be running natty | 20:02 |
| techbreak | BUGabundo: but why the update managear is not showing upgarde option ? | 20:03 |
| BUGabundo | that I don't know | 20:03 |
| BUGabundo | hence why I asked you to file a bug | 20:03 |
| BUGabundo | it will collect the needed data, and have the most adqueated person looking at it | 20:04 |
| techbreak | BUGabundo: ok | 20:04 |
| Daekdroom | I wonder if his system is set to show only LTS releases | 20:05 |
| techbreak | Daekdroom: no i just checked the settings | 20:05 |
| BUGabundo | Daekdroom: maybe | 20:05 |
| BUGabundo | but on maverick ? | 20:05 |
| BUGabundo | not expected | 20:05 |
| techbreak | BUGabundo: i just checked settings... its fine Daekdroom | 20:06 |
| Daekdroom | Hm. | 20:06 |
| e01 | hello | 20:25 |
| e01 | how can i downgrade compiz to 0.8 | 20:25 |
| Daekdroom | e01, why? | 20:41 |
| coz_ | hey all | 20:45 |
| e01 | Daekdroom, because with 0.9 i get decrease of the visual speeds | 20:46 |
| e01 | i can`t resize windows, when switching about windows they move choppy | 20:46 |
| e01 | with 0.8 i had no problems | 20:46 |
| Daekdroom | e01, are you sure it's not related to videocard drivers? | 20:47 |
| e01 | :) yes | 20:47 |
| e01 | i see this problem few months ago, when i switched to the 0.9, i thinked in natty with new xorg and new compiz and new drivers all will works as before but no | 20:48 |
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| gordonjcp | hello | 22:48 |
| gordonjcp | how do I put the menu bar back into the app windows, in 11.04? | 22:48 |
| Daekdroom | gordonjcp, are you using unity? | 22:48 |
| gordonjcp | Daekdroom: I have no idea | 22:49 |
| Daekdroom | Riiight. Do you have the sidebar launcher? | 22:49 |
| gordonjcp | yes | 22:49 |
| gordonjcp | it's actually quite like a Mac lying on its side | 22:49 |
| Daekdroom | That means you're using Unity, and you can't move the menu bar back to window apps in unity, for now atleast. | 22:50 |
| gordonjcp | ugh | 22:50 |
| Daekdroom | You can move back to Classic GNOME, tho | 22:50 |
| Daekdroom | All you have to do is logout and pick "Classic gnome" in the bottom bar before you enter your password | 22:50 |
| gordonjcp | is moving the menu bar back to the window likely to come along in Unity? | 22:50 |
| Daekdroom | gordonjcp, not sure | 22:50 |
| gordonjcp | tbh the whole "menu bar stuck to the top of the screen" is what's kept me from being able to use Mac OS | 22:51 |
| gordonjcp | can the launcher go at the bottom? | 22:51 |
| Daekdroom | Nope. | 22:51 |
| gordonjcp | yeah, I noticed | 22:52 |
| gordonjcp | it hard-locked the machine when I dragged it | 22:53 |
| gordonjcp | probably won't stick with Unity then, I've got about ten years of muscle-memory wired up for a dock at the bottom of the screen | 22:54 |
| gordonjcp | how do I open more than one terminal in Unity? | 22:56 |
| gordonjcp | apart from wave the mouse around until the menu appears, then File->Open Terminal | 22:57 |
| gordonjcp | surely if double-clicking the launcher icon launches one, double-clicking again should launch another | 22:57 |
| Daekdroom | The other easiest way is using Dash. | 22:57 |
| Daekdroom | You can file a bug asking for that, really. | 22:58 |
| gordonjcp | ah, right | 22:58 |
| gordonjcp | no firebug in FF4 | 22:58 |
| gordonjcp | bye | 22:58 |
| gordonjcp | I don't understand Unity | 23:14 |
| gordonjcp | presumably it's designed for people cleverer than me | 23:14 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, :) I doubt it | 23:14 |
| Daekdroom | There are a lot of stuff I don't like about Unity, but none involves that | 23:15 |
| gordonjcp | coz_: maybe it's designed for people who have never used a computer and therefore have no preconceived ideas about how desktops and applications work | 23:15 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, what unity should be is a neatly designed interface for a netbook which also means a small monitor/screen | 23:15 |
| gordonjcp | coz_: I've been trying for ten minutes to bring a window to the foreground | 23:15 |
| gordonjcp | I can't figure out how to do it | 23:16 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, it should be as simple as clicking the window | 23:16 |
| gordonjcp | coz_: I can't click it, it's behind the browser | 23:16 |
| gordonjcp | if I click the terminal icon in the side bar, they appear, but then they disappear again when I click anything else | 23:16 |
| gordonjcp | and the browser disappears too | 23:16 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, if you click upper panel...does it lest the opend windows or if you hit scale or expo compiz | 23:17 |
| gordonjcp | it's like one of those puzzle games where you've got to turn off all the lights, but pressing each button turns some off and some on | 23:17 |
| coz_ | does it list them rather | 23:17 |
| gordonjcp | the bar at the top? | 23:17 |
| Daekdroom | gordonjcp, it gets so easier when you learn the keyboard shortcuts | 23:17 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, let me log of on the other system and bring up unity ..hold on | 23:17 |
| gordonjcp | nothing happens if I click on it | 23:17 |
| gordonjcp | alt-f2 doesn't bring up a run box | 23:18 |
| Daekdroom | That one is getting fixed soon | 23:18 |
| gordonjcp | hmmm | 23:18 |
| gordonjcp | this is too hard | 23:18 |
| gordonjcp | oh great, it's obliterated menu.lst | 23:19 |
| gordonjcp | now I can't even dual-boot | 23:19 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, you can temporarily install grun and set that with a keybinding | 23:19 |
| gordonjcp | oh, no - it just creates its on /boot and doesn't bother to mount mine | 23:21 |
| gordonjcp | *own | 23:21 |
| gordonjcp | okay, so I need to reinstall grub then | 23:22 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, mm ytou are correct about several opened windows... I cant find a way to bring one forward here either | 23:22 |
| yofel_ | shouldn't happen as long as /boot is properly in fstab | 23:22 |
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| gordonjcp | yofel: I can't tell if it is or not, /etc/fstab is all full of UUIDs | 23:22 |
| yofel | gordonjcp: any reason you were still using grub1 ? | 23:23 |
| gordonjcp | yofel: yes | 23:23 |
| yofel | gordonjcp: sudo blkid will list all UUIDs | 23:23 |
| gordonjcp | I rarely use Ubuntu | 23:23 |
| gordonjcp | and that's the only thing that uses grub1 dodgyness | 23:23 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, oh wait... just click on the icon in the Launcher to bring the window forward into focuss | 23:24 |
| gordonjcp | coz_: right, but then it closes all the other windows | 23:24 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, no it pushes them into the background ... at least it does here | 23:24 |
| Daekdroom | It pushes them into the background here | 23:24 |
| gordonjcp | coz_: hm, it closes firefox and leaves the terminal windows open here | 23:25 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, try clicking the firefox icon again | 23:25 |
| gordonjcp | right, anyway, short of zeroing out the disk and starting from scratch, how do I get grub1 back? | 23:25 |
| gordonjcp | coz_: that plops firefox over everything again, and I'm back where I started | 23:25 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, you would have to reinstall via a live cd | 23:25 |
| gordonjcp | oh, great | 23:25 |
| gordonjcp | I knew I'd regret this ;-) | 23:26 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, well on a netbook system there is only so much room ... so much realestate | 23:26 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, thus the reason for global menu | 23:26 |
| gordonjcp | coz_: so why are they pushing a netbook WM for a desktop? | 23:26 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, or you can change sessions to either classic gnome or classic gnome (no effects) | 23:26 |
| gordonjcp | I'm increasingly concerned about some of the design decisions in Ubuntu and Gnome | 23:26 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, it is not designed for desktop,,, global menu is useless on a monitor larger than 15" | 23:27 |
| gordonjcp | coz_: so why is it the default? | 23:27 |
| yofel | unity is a ubuntu only decision - I personally haven't tried gnome3 yet | 23:27 |
| coz_ | and completely dumb on dual monitors | 23:27 |
| gordonjcp | so is it unity, or gnome 2 in 11.04? | 23:28 |
| yofel | both | 23:28 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, well it is probably default because of the new design and implimentation of compiz 0.9.x replacing mutter,, and because the previous netbook used mutter which was a resouce hog | 23:28 |
| Daekdroom | GNOME 2 Apps + Unity as a Shell | 23:28 |
| yofel | you can choose at login | 23:28 |
| coz_ | resource | 23:28 |
| Daekdroom | Gnome Shell looks sooo neat | 23:28 |
| Daekdroom | Too bad it's unstable. | 23:28 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, I personally dont use Unity nor do I like gnome shell | 23:28 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, I have a dual monitor system | 23:29 |
| gordonjcp | coz_: I don't even use Ubuntu, most of the time | 23:29 |
| gordonjcp | it's too complicated | 23:29 |
| Daekdroom | coz_, I didn't use Gnome Shell much because it messed up everything, but what's wrong with it? | 23:29 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, oh ! complicated?/ wow thats the first time I heard that :") | 23:29 |
| Daekdroom | What bothers me most about Unity is how it's done. | 23:29 |
| gordonjcp | coz_: it's a PITA to set up | 23:29 |
| Daekdroom | It uses images everywhere. Fullscreen Dash is slow as hell | 23:30 |
| gordonjcp | coz_: I'm annoyed about this grub2 thing; it's a bit bloody rude just flattening someone's boot sector without asking | 23:30 |
| yofel | gordonjcp: it's a PITA to configure (that's why I personally use KDE) but it's not that bad... | 23:30 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, wow again... in terms of PITA to set up ...again a first :) | 23:30 |
| gordonjcp | now I've got god knows how much work to do to get my machine back to a usable state | 23:30 |
| gordonjcp | coz_: well, sound is broken by default, the stupid "close button on the wrong side" thing... | 23:31 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, log off type in your password then before hitting enter change to classic gnome or classic gnome (no effects) | 23:31 |
| gordonjcp | coz_: right, but I don't see how that unbreaks grub | 23:31 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, close buttons can be changed is a jiffy | 23:31 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, of course it wont fix grub | 23:31 |
| gordonjcp | coz_: yes, but it's annoying, and they should have been left alone | 23:31 |
| gordonjcp | coz_: right, well, that's my immediate problem | 23:32 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, I agree in concept with you | 23:32 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, but ...there it is :) | 23:32 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, you can go here and use t his how to to reinstall grub http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide | 23:32 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, also you can simply sudo apt-get autoremove --purge unity | 23:33 |
| gordonjcp | I haven't got a livecd | 23:34 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, ah ok..I was going to say read that through several times to get your bearings | 23:34 |
| gordonjcp | right, so is there going to be an option to install 11.04 when it comes out without it flattening everything else on the machine? | 23:48 |
| gordonjcp | or are you going for the full-on Windows XP "our way or no way" thing? | 23:49 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, well what you see in 11.04 right now is the way it will essentially be,, I am assuming... it only has 2 months left so I doubt any major change is going to take place | 23:50 |
| judgen | is there a list of packages that is going to be updated for natty? | 23:50 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, "flatttening" I am not sure what you mean by that | 23:50 |
| judgen | I am still thinking about amiwm... it is ofcourse a minor matter, as most can build it themselves. but still. | 23:51 |
| Daekdroom | gordonjcp, you probably didn't set the /boot partition in the partitioner. | 23:51 |
| judgen | The one in the repo is from 1998 | 23:51 |
| Daekdroom | !info amiwm | 23:51 |
| gordonjcp | Daekdroom: it didn't offer me a partitioner | 23:51 |
| ubottu | amiwm (source: amiwm): The Amiga look alike window manager. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.20.48-8 (natty), package size 92 kB, installed size 352 kB | 23:51 |
| Daekdroom | gordonjcp, it should have. | 23:51 |
| judgen | gordonjcp: yup old as shit | 23:51 |
| coz_ | judgen, is there a newer source version? | 23:52 |
| judgen | gordonjcp: does not even have clock in the bar or even resonable icon minimization | 23:52 |
| judgen | coz_: yes | 23:52 |
| judgen | 2010 | 23:52 |
| judgen | ftp://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/X11/wm/amiwm/amiwm0.21pl2.tar.gz | 23:52 |
| Daekdroom | judgen, is it available in debian? | 23:52 |
| gordonjcp | judgen: ? | 23:52 |
| coz_ | judgen, oh! mm ... interesting it is that old in the repo | 23:52 |
| Daekdroom | Because most packages are pulled from there. | 23:52 |
| judgen | gordonjcp: it is not in debian sadly | 23:53 |
| gordonjcp | judgen: what isn't? | 23:53 |
| Daekdroom | judgen, you do realize that gordonjcp is not taking part in this conversation? :P | 23:53 |
| judgen | i talked to the repo manager of that part, and he said "when i get time" | 23:53 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, what media did you use to install natty? | 23:53 |
| gordonjcp | coz_: I upgraded from the previous version | 23:53 |
| judgen | Daekdroom: ooh sorry | 23:53 |
| Daekdroom | judgen, debian's or ubuntu's? | 23:53 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, ah so this is not a clean install | 23:53 |
| judgen | Daekdroom: the pm of debian | 23:54 |
| coz_ | gordonjcp, that is why you didnt get a partitioner | 23:54 |
| gordonjcp | Munching Midwife, or whatever the hell it's called | 23:54 |
| judgen | not the ubuntu one | 23:54 |
| Daekdroom | !schedule | 23:54 |
| ubottu | A schedule of Natty Narwhal (11.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule | 23:54 |
| Daekdroom | We're past feature freeze, unfortunately. | 23:54 |
| judgen | Daekdroom: So an update to a package is impossible? | 23:55 |
| Daekdroom | judgen, bugfix releases and essential updates are still allowed. | 23:55 |
| judgen | Daekdroom: i think a due 12year to modern release would make it =P | 23:55 |
| judgen | maybe there is just not as many amiga refugees out there anymore. | 23:56 |
| gordonjcp | I've got a couple of Amigas | 23:57 |
| gordonjcp | right, here goes | 23:57 |
| * psusi misses dungeon master and star wars on the amiga | 23:57 | |
| gordonjcp | \o/ | 23:58 |
| yofel | judgen: a package update is still possible, but requires an FFE | 23:59 |
| gordonjcp | okay, my kernel and initrd are in a bit of a funny place, but it works | 23:59 |
| judgen | gordonjcp: I do to, i used to use my master amiga 1200+mediator+voodoo5+blizzardPPC250+256mb ram+g4 slotter@400mhz. And ofcourse a SBC with an intel pentium M 1,8ghz. That was an awsome machine... it burned up, so i sold the parts on ebay. | 23:59 |
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