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| brice__ | Hi everyone | 14:48 |
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| brice__ | I try to found some gods about themes | 14:48 |
| brice__ | I want to use the Ambiance theme, but not all buttons (aboce, stick) are in this theme. I try to found a link (I'm sure someone had modify the theme and add thoses buttons), a coder able to do that(i think it's simple to do that wehn you know want you do ....) or any information. | 14:49 |
| brice__ | If the option is : "someone can do that", i dont need any art work, i need only a good .xml file with "above" and "stick" like the "menu" (menu_prelight.png and menu.png). i try to do that into the .xml file, but after many try i think i'm not able to do this simple thing | 14:49 |
| brice__ | someone have knowedge about xml files of metacity theme ? | 16:35 |
| vish | brice__: pretty much the same people over here and on gnome-art ;) | 16:41 |
| vish | brice__: i'm not exactly sure what those "above" and "stick" options you mention, but your best chances are look for themes which have those buttons and try to copy it | 16:42 |
| brice__ | I'm on both, but no answer about my problem | 16:42 |
| vish | brice__: yea, i dont think i've even seen anyone use that feature, never even heard about it.. and if people on gnome-art dont know either, then the chances are pretty slim :) | 16:43 |
| brice__ | i tryed, but without succes (modify theme) | 16:43 |
| vish | brice__: do you have an example theme which uses those features? | 16:44 |
| brice__ | hmm, i'm very surprise | 16:44 |
| brice__ | yes | 16:44 |
| brice__ | wait | 16:44 |
| brice__ | both are into the oficial Ubuntu 10.10 distrib | 16:44 |
| vish | o.0 | 16:44 |
| brice__ | yes ... | 16:44 |
| brice__ | you know, the windows buttons, close, minimize, maximize ... | 16:45 |
| brice__ | ? | 16:45 |
| vish | yup | 16:45 |
| vish | brice__: i think you maybe using the wrong name for it, an example theme would help understand better what you are looking for | 16:46 |
| brice__ | into gconf-edit, it's the "config line" with something like that [menu:minimize,maxomize,close] | 16:46 |
| vish | i know those, but whats the "above" and "stick" | 16:47 |
| brice__ | into metacity, we can configure the option, ":" for the side, left or right of the windows button position | 16:47 |
| brice__ | yes, and stick is to keep the windows into all deskops | 16:47 |
| brice__ | and above, to keep a window above all others | 16:48 |
| vish | brice__: those are options in the drop down menu, there are no buttons for that | 16:48 |
| vish | atleast i havent seen any theme with that available | 16:49 |
| brice__ | with the themes i will give you, i can do that without problem into gconfedit : [close,minimize,maximize,spacer,above,stick] | 16:49 |
| vish | brice__: do you have an example theme which has those buttons? | 16:49 |
| brice__ | yes, i come back | 16:49 |
| brice__ | ok : | 16:50 |
| brice__ | it's not full theme, but into "windows border" | 16:50 |
| brice__ | "crux" windows border | 16:50 |
| brice__ | and "Bright" windows border | 16:51 |
| vish | ah! | 16:51 |
| brice__ | close,minimize,maximize,spacer,above,stick work with those themes | 16:51 |
| brice__ | and shade too, but i dont use it | 16:51 |
| vish | brice__: ok, then check out the xml for crux | 16:52 |
| brice__ | i done that | 16:52 |
| brice__ | but i was not able to modify Ambiance to use it | 16:52 |
| vish | brice__: the ambiance file in /usr/share/themes/Ambiance ? | 16:53 |
| brice__ | (sry about my bad english since the begening of this conversation) | 16:53 |
| brice__ | yes | 16:53 |
| vish | no worries :) | 16:53 |
| brice__ | same for crux | 16:53 |
| brice__ | and bright | 16:53 |
| vish | brice__: you need to edit the file as root | 16:53 |
| brice__ | done | 16:53 |
| brice__ | i'm not able to found the good code to put into the metacity.xml, all my try crash the theme | 16:54 |
| brice__ | i made many try, with various line number, many various code | 16:54 |
| brice__ | i tryed with the Ambiance xml, copy the code and adapt it with some information i took into crux xml or bright | 16:55 |
| vish | brice__: open the metacity-theme-2.xml | 16:55 |
| vish | in crux | 16:55 |
| vish | it has the lines | 16:55 |
| brice__ | yes, i found it, but i cant put them simply into the ambiance xml | 16:56 |
| vish | brice__: maybe you need to add it as it is done in crux, as metacity-theme-1.xml and metacity-theme-2.xml | 16:56 |
| brice__ | metacity-theme-2.xml of crux, and metacity-theme-&.xml of ambiance arre not very equals | 16:56 |
| brice__ | i tryed many things, without success | 16:56 |
| vish | brice__: ambiance does not have those lines, so you need to add new lines | 16:57 |
| brice__ | yes | 16:57 |
| brice__ | i done | 16:57 |
| brice__ | but my "code sentenses" dont work | 16:57 |
| brice__ | because i'm not familiar att all with that, i understand the way, but i'm bad | 16:57 |
| brice__ | i try to do that since 2 days ! :) | 16:58 |
| brice__ | i done all things you said | 16:58 |
| brice__ | but in the bad way, because dont work, and i'm sure it's not impossible, i'm sure it's easy when you know ... | 16:59 |
| brice__ | it's my problem ..... | 16:59 |
| vish | brice__: if you've added all the other lines relevant to those functions too and still it does not work.. then hmm, i'm not sure.. :) | 16:59 |
| brice__ | and i dont need arwork, i want to use the menu.png and the varient lighted, for "stick" and "above" fonction | 17:00 |
| brice__ | it's xml metacity format .... | 17:00 |
| vish | yup.. understood that.. but try checking the code again and make sure it is complete | 17:00 |
| brice__ | this must work, but i must found the good code sentence, into the good chapter of the xml | 17:00 |
| vish | brice__: if nothing else works, try contacting the author | 17:01 |
| brice__ | i cant undersatnd for real all lines, but i undersatnd sometimes the mean | 17:01 |
| brice__ | I try to contact someone maked a personnal theme | 17:01 |
| vish | brice__: look at the author contact info at the top of the xml file, he maybe able to help | 17:01 |
| brice__ | with knowedgs, of corse, with metacity xml | 17:02 |
| brice__ | done too | 17:02 |
| brice__ | yesterday night | 17:02 |
| DustyOS | Hello Every One!! | 17:16 |
| brice__ | Hi | 17:17 |
| DustyOS | hey there, so this is the Ubuntu-Art IRC chat eh? | 17:18 |
| brice__ | vish, feel free to make some tryes with the xml file if you have some knowedge, i will be happy to have a working xml ! :D | 17:18 |
| vish | brice__: why not just use the crux theme and modify it to look like ambience.. should be easier ;) | 17:19 |
| DustyOS | Would it be OK if I joined the Ubuntu-Art team? | 17:19 |
| DustyOS | I would LOVE to | 17:20 |
| vish | DustyOS: sure.. check out the topic for some ways to get involved | 17:20 |
| brice__ | Vish, i think not ! | 17:20 |
| DustyOS | Alright cool! | 17:20 |
| vish | brice__: just change the images in crux , should not be too hard | 17:20 |
| DustyOS | https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art how about this? | 17:21 |
| brice__ | crux ->ambiance, some lines to add, ambiance->crux, all code to change | 17:21 |
| DustyOS | I am wanting to join the art part | 17:21 |
| vish | DustyOS: the art part done by the community is participating in contests like » http://is.gd/iwunay | 17:22 |
| brice__ | Vish, not possible, the spacers are differents, and the write is very different | 17:22 |
| brice__ | it's all the code to change | 17:22 |
| vish | brice__: ah, then i'm totally out of ideas ;) | 17:22 |
| DustyOS | OK thanks | 17:22 |
| DustyOS | brb- lunch | 17:22 |
| vish | DustyOS: also Ubuntu has a dedicated design team, Canonical design team | 17:22 |
| === vish changed the topic of #ubuntu-artwork to: Channel for Community Artwork Team: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork | Ubuntu Brand Identity Guidelines are available at: http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/ubuntu-brand-guidelines/ | Looking for ways to contribute to Ubuntu? » http://is.gd/iwunay ; http://is.gd/edapuj ; http://is.gd/suhucu | ||
| thorwil | iwunay edapuj suhucu? | 17:32 |
| thorwil | shoprobdang! | 17:32 |
| vish | ;) | 17:33 |
| thorwil | at least no rickrolling | 17:33 |
| vish | is.gd has this option to have the urls as more "pronounceable" and i get those | 17:35 |
| vish | otherwise it is even more random gibberish, | 17:35 |
| DustyOS | Back | 17:40 |
| vish | DustyOS: so, i've updated the topic and you got more links to check out ;) btw, you should know that the default wallpaper and theme is done by the Canonical design team | 17:41 |
| DustyOS | Woah I se | 17:41 |
| DustyOS | see* | 17:41 |
| DustyOS | thats interesting | 17:41 |
| DustyOS | So how do I join them? | 17:41 |
| vish | DustyOS: join whom? | 17:41 |
| DustyOS | canonical | 17:42 |
| vish | DustyOS: maybe when there are jobs available/open | 17:42 |
| DustyOS | They don't pay right? | 17:42 |
| vish | DustyOS: the Canonical design team gets paid :) | 17:43 |
| DustyOS | Ahh...I see | 17:43 |
| DustyOS | Like I was wanting to contribute themes, cursors, wallpapers, icons ect.. | 17:44 |
| DustyOS | How would I do such things? | 17:44 |
| vish | DustyOS: well, for wallpapers you can checkout the links in the topic | 17:44 |
| DustyOS | I saw them | 17:45 |
| DustyOS | Thanks | 17:45 |
| vish | DustyOS: for others, you can do work and submit on sits like gnome-look.org | 17:45 |
| vish | sites* | 17:45 |
| DustyOS | Right | 17:45 |
| DustyOS | Like how does a guy get it so your wallpaper that was made shows up in the next update or update for Ubuntu? | 17:46 |
| DustyOS | Or themes | 17:46 |
| vish | DustyOS: for the wallpaper its in the links you can get your wallpaper in the next release.. ;) | 17:47 |
| DustyOS | Oh right | 17:47 |
| vish | DustyOS: themes, only 1 main theme and the rest are older themes, you can do the all the work and submit as proposals to be included, but no assurances that it might be. | 17:48 |
| DustyOS | I see | 17:48 |
| DustyOS | Would U say submitting things to Gnome-Look is contributing to Ubuntu? | 17:48 |
| vish | yup.. :) | 17:49 |
| DustyOS | Nice, | 17:49 |
| DustyOS | I have a question | 17:49 |
| DustyOS | I plan on making some cursors | 17:49 |
| vish | DustyOS: if you are looking to contribute to Ubuntu, just do what you like and do it without expectation whether it will be included or not in the default | 17:49 |
| vish | DustyOS: cool! | 17:49 |
| DustyOS | I know there are addons like the Gimp-Registry has the .cur add on. Do I need to script anything? | 17:50 |
| vish | not sure.. | 17:50 |
| DustyOS | For instance hovering over a link creats a hand | 17:50 |
| vish | i'm not familiar with cursors :) | 17:50 |
| DustyOS | I see | 17:50 |
| vish | DustyOS: usually if the work is good and complete, it has better chances of getting considered for inclusion | 17:51 |
| DustyOS | That would make scene | 17:52 |
| DustyOS | What do U do? | 17:53 |
| vish | DustyOS: humanity icon theme | 17:53 |
| DustyOS | HA! U made that? | 17:53 |
| brice__ | vish: If you have eventualy a link (mail, hour to contact here) with a man in the team familiar with xml about my problem, thx :) | 17:54 |
| vish | DustyOS: yea, with a couple of other guys.. | 17:54 |
| DustyOS | Woah!! Thats so awesome! A real pleasure to meet U. | 17:54 |
| DustyOS | One of the best icons for Ubuntu out there is the humanity one | 17:55 |
| vish | pleasure to meet you as well.. :) | 17:55 |
| DustyOS | Great job on it too | 17:55 |
| vish | thx.. | 17:55 |
| vish | brice__: i really have no clue about crux theme, and i havent heard of that author , i havent seen him here. | 17:55 |
| vish | brice__: he doesnt hang out here, crux theme is mostly from GNOME | 17:56 |
| brice__ | not only about crux, but someone with knowedge about metacity xml work | 17:56 |
| brice__ | vish: i need someone able to read esy metacity xml code | 17:57 |
| vish | brice__: it really should not be that hard, just try looking at the code fully, you might have missed a couple of lines hence it does not get displayed | 17:58 |
| vish | brice__: what you want is basically already there in those lines.. you just need to narrow it down.. sometimes trial-n-error helps ;) | 17:59 |
| brice__ | vish: i miss something about the good place to put the adapted code, and the call of the value put in memory like valuename=value | 17:59 |
| brice__ | I'm trying again to read the code ... but I'm very in need of help with metacity xml code god men | 18:00 |
| vish | brice__: try #metacity on irc.gimp.org | 18:01 |
| brice__ | vish: empty channel | 18:01 |
| vish | hmm.. | 18:02 |
| brice__ | It's strange to see it's not possible to found someone able to code xml metacity, it's need to make a theme | 18:03 |
| brice__ | here, or in gnome-art, or tango, or clearlooks ... nobody know what is close, above, shade, stick .... and it's one of the base of theme in xml ... :'( | 18:04 |
| vish | brice__: thats because no one use stick/above.. ;) | 18:05 |
| vish | brice__: check out the year for crux, 2002.. ;) | 18:05 |
| brice__ | yes, but it's the same way like close or minimize .... :/ | 18:06 |
| brice__ | just need knowedge about xml .... | 18:06 |
| brice__ | if someone is able to code something with close, minimize, he is able to code with above and shade and stick | 18:06 |
| vish | brice__: not necessarily.. i only have two options i can suggest. (1) try looking at the code again slowly, it really is not hard. (2) try recreating ambiance theme from crux. | 18:07 |
| vish | brice__: btw, why exactly are you looking to add those buttons? | 18:08 |
| brice__ | (3) found a creator of any other metacity theme ;) | 18:08 |
| vish | thats not *my* suggestion ;) | 18:08 |
| brice__ | vish: I stay around, I wont be mmore boring about this, i continue my code try ... I will see ... If you meet someone, any information .... thx a lot | 18:09 |
| vish | you're welcome.. :) | 18:09 |
| brice__ | angry/sad mode on | 18:20 |
| vish | heh, so much for trying to help brice__ ! /me got literally nagged in PM | 19:30 |
| vish | metacity xml is not really very hard, and IMO, quite easy to actually understand what it does | 19:30 |
| vish | but he wants someone to look into the theme and write it for him … o.0 and just cause he likes it that way.. | 19:31 |
| darkmatter | lol | 19:39 |
| coz_ | hey all | 20:45 |
| doctormo | hey coz_ | 21:25 |
| doctormo | Can you review for me this desktop background? | 21:26 |
| doctormo | http://divajutta.com/doctormo/art/edu/perspective.png | 21:26 |
| highvoltage | doctormo: I'm not sure how I feel about that blue background, I think I liked it more before | 21:28 |
| highvoltage | doctormo: I also wonder if there should be slightly less earth visible, I'm not sure but I think it might be better with slightly more space | 21:29 |
| doctormo | highvoltage: Hello | 22:01 |
| doctormo | highvoltage: So, like that you think? | 22:10 |
| coz_ | doctormo, hey guy | 22:34 |
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