=== daker_ is now known as daker [14:48] Hi everyone [14:48] I try to found some gods about themes [14:49] I want to use the Ambiance theme, but not all buttons (aboce, stick) are in this theme. I try to found a link (I'm sure someone had modify the theme and add thoses buttons), a coder able to do that(i think it's simple to do that wehn you know want you do ....) or any information. [14:49] If the option is : "someone can do that", i dont need any art work, i need only a good .xml file with "above" and "stick" like the "menu" (menu_prelight.png and menu.png). i try to do that into the .xml file, but after many try i think i'm not able to do this simple thing [16:35] someone have knowedge about xml files of metacity theme ? [16:41] brice__: pretty much the same people over here and on gnome-art ;) [16:42] brice__: i'm not exactly sure what those "above" and "stick" options you mention, but your best chances are look for themes which have those buttons and try to copy it [16:42] I'm on both, but no answer about my problem [16:43] brice__: yea, i dont think i've even seen anyone use that feature, never even heard about it.. and if people on gnome-art dont know either, then the chances are pretty slim :) [16:43] i tryed, but without succes (modify theme) [16:44] brice__: do you have an example theme which uses those features? [16:44] hmm, i'm very surprise [16:44] yes [16:44] wait [16:44] both are into the oficial Ubuntu 10.10 distrib [16:44] o.0 [16:44] yes ... [16:45] you know, the windows buttons, close, minimize, maximize ... [16:45] ? [16:45] yup [16:46] brice__: i think you maybe using the wrong name for it, an example theme would help understand better what you are looking for [16:46] into gconf-edit, it's the "config line" with something like that [menu:minimize,maxomize,close] [16:47] i know those, but whats the "above" and "stick" [16:47] into metacity, we can configure the option, ":" for the side, left or right of the windows button position [16:47] yes, and stick is to keep the windows into all deskops [16:48] and above, to keep a window above all others [16:48] brice__: those are options in the drop down menu, there are no buttons for that [16:49] atleast i havent seen any theme with that available [16:49] with the themes i will give you, i can do that without problem into gconfedit : [close,minimize,maximize,spacer,above,stick] [16:49] brice__: do you have an example theme which has those buttons? [16:49] yes, i come back [16:50] ok : [16:50] it's not full theme, but into "windows border" [16:50] "crux" windows border [16:51] and "Bright" windows border [16:51] ah! [16:51] close,minimize,maximize,spacer,above,stick work with those themes [16:51] and shade too, but i dont use it [16:52] brice__: ok, then check out the xml for crux [16:52] i done that [16:52] but i was not able to modify Ambiance to use it [16:53] brice__: the ambiance file in /usr/share/themes/Ambiance ? [16:53] (sry about my bad english since the begening of this conversation) [16:53] yes [16:53] no worries :) [16:53] same for crux [16:53] and bright [16:53] brice__: you need to edit the file as root [16:53] done [16:54] i'm not able to found the good code to put into the metacity.xml, all my try crash the theme [16:54] i made many try, with various line number, many various code [16:55] i tryed with the Ambiance xml, copy the code and adapt it with some information i took into crux xml or bright [16:55] brice__: open the metacity-theme-2.xml [16:55] in crux [16:55] it has the lines [16:56] yes, i found it, but i cant put them simply into the ambiance xml [16:56] brice__: maybe you need to add it as it is done in crux, as metacity-theme-1.xml and metacity-theme-2.xml [16:56] metacity-theme-2.xml of crux, and metacity-theme-&.xml of ambiance arre not very equals [16:56] i tryed many things, without success [16:57] brice__: ambiance does not have those lines, so you need to add new lines [16:57] yes [16:57] i done [16:57] but my "code sentenses" dont work [16:57] because i'm not familiar att all with that, i understand the way, but i'm bad [16:58] i try to do that since 2 days ! :) [16:58] i done all things you said [16:59] but in the bad way, because dont work, and i'm sure it's not impossible, i'm sure it's easy when you know ... [16:59] it's my problem ..... [16:59] brice__: if you've added all the other lines relevant to those functions too and still it does not work.. then hmm, i'm not sure.. :) [17:00] and i dont need arwork, i want to use the menu.png and the varient lighted, for "stick" and "above" fonction [17:00] it's xml metacity format .... [17:00] yup.. understood that.. but try checking the code again and make sure it is complete [17:00] this must work, but i must found the good code sentence, into the good chapter of the xml [17:01] brice__: if nothing else works, try contacting the author [17:01] i cant undersatnd for real all lines, but i undersatnd sometimes the mean [17:01] I try to contact someone maked a personnal theme [17:01] brice__: look at the author contact info at the top of the xml file, he maybe able to help [17:02] with knowedgs, of corse, with metacity xml [17:02] done too [17:02] yesterday night [17:16] Hello Every One!! [17:17] Hi [17:18] hey there, so this is the Ubuntu-Art IRC chat eh? [17:18] vish, feel free to make some tryes with the xml file if you have some knowedge, i will be happy to have a working xml ! :D [17:19] brice__: why not just use the crux theme and modify it to look like ambience.. should be easier ;) [17:19] Would it be OK if I joined the Ubuntu-Art team? [17:20] I would LOVE to [17:20] DustyOS: sure.. check out the topic for some ways to get involved [17:20] Vish, i think not ! [17:20] Alright cool! [17:20] brice__: just change the images in crux , should not be too hard [17:21] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art how about this? [17:21] crux ->ambiance, some lines to add, ambiance->crux, all code to change [17:21] I am wanting to join the art part [17:22] DustyOS: the art part done by the community is participating in contests like » http://is.gd/iwunay [17:22] Vish, not possible, the spacers are differents, and the write is very different [17:22] it's all the code to change [17:22] brice__: ah, then i'm totally out of ideas ;) [17:22] OK thanks [17:22] brb- lunch [17:22] DustyOS: also Ubuntu has a dedicated design team, Canonical design team === vish changed the topic of #ubuntu-artwork to: Channel for Community Artwork Team: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork | Ubuntu Brand Identity Guidelines are available at: http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/ubuntu-brand-guidelines/ | Looking for ways to contribute to Ubuntu? » http://is.gd/iwunay ; http://is.gd/edapuj ; http://is.gd/suhucu [17:32] iwunay edapuj suhucu? [17:32] shoprobdang! [17:33] ;) [17:33] at least no rickrolling [17:35] is.gd has this option to have the urls as more "pronounceable" and i get those [17:35] otherwise it is even more random gibberish, [17:40] Back [17:41] DustyOS: so, i've updated the topic and you got more links to check out ;) btw, you should know that the default wallpaper and theme is done by the Canonical design team [17:41] Woah I se [17:41] see* [17:41] thats interesting [17:41] So how do I join them? [17:41] DustyOS: join whom? [17:42] canonical [17:42] DustyOS: maybe when there are jobs available/open [17:42] They don't pay right? [17:43] DustyOS: the Canonical design team gets paid :) [17:43] Ahh...I see [17:44] Like I was wanting to contribute themes, cursors, wallpapers, icons ect.. [17:44] How would I do such things? [17:44] DustyOS: well, for wallpapers you can checkout the links in the topic [17:45] I saw them [17:45] Thanks [17:45] DustyOS: for others, you can do work and submit on sits like gnome-look.org [17:45] sites* [17:45] Right [17:46] Like how does a guy get it so your wallpaper that was made shows up in the next update or update for Ubuntu? [17:46] Or themes [17:47] DustyOS: for the wallpaper its in the links you can get your wallpaper in the next release.. ;) [17:47] Oh right [17:48] DustyOS: themes, only 1 main theme and the rest are older themes, you can do the all the work and submit as proposals to be included, but no assurances that it might be. [17:48] I see [17:48] Would U say submitting things to Gnome-Look is contributing to Ubuntu? [17:49] yup.. :) [17:49] Nice, [17:49] I have a question [17:49] I plan on making some cursors [17:49] DustyOS: if you are looking to contribute to Ubuntu, just do what you like and do it without expectation whether it will be included or not in the default [17:49] DustyOS: cool! [17:50] I know there are addons like the Gimp-Registry has the .cur add on. Do I need to script anything? [17:50] not sure.. [17:50] For instance hovering over a link creats a hand [17:50] i'm not familiar with cursors :) [17:50] I see [17:51] DustyOS: usually if the work is good and complete, it has better chances of getting considered for inclusion [17:52] That would make scene [17:53] What do U do? [17:53] DustyOS: humanity icon theme [17:53] HA! U made that? [17:54] vish: If you have eventualy a link (mail, hour to contact here) with a man in the team familiar with xml about my problem, thx :) [17:54] DustyOS: yea, with a couple of other guys.. [17:54] Woah!! Thats so awesome! A real pleasure to meet U. [17:55] One of the best icons for Ubuntu out there is the humanity one [17:55] pleasure to meet you as well.. :) [17:55] Great job on it too [17:55] thx.. [17:55] brice__: i really have no clue about crux theme, and i havent heard of that author , i havent seen him here. [17:56] brice__: he doesnt hang out here, crux theme is mostly from GNOME [17:56] not only about crux, but someone with knowedge about metacity xml work [17:57] vish: i need someone able to read esy metacity xml code [17:58] brice__: it really should not be that hard, just try looking at the code fully, you might have missed a couple of lines hence it does not get displayed [17:59] brice__: what you want is basically already there in those lines.. you just need to narrow it down.. sometimes trial-n-error helps ;) [17:59] vish: i miss something about the good place to put the adapted code, and the call of the value put in memory like valuename=value [18:00] I'm trying again to read the code ... but I'm very in need of help with metacity xml code god men [18:01] brice__: try #metacity on irc.gimp.org [18:01] vish: empty channel [18:02] hmm.. [18:03] It's strange to see it's not possible to found someone able to code xml metacity, it's need to make a theme [18:04] here, or in gnome-art, or tango, or clearlooks ... nobody know what is close, above, shade, stick .... and it's one of the base of theme in xml ... :'( [18:05] brice__: thats because no one use stick/above.. ;) [18:05] brice__: check out the year for crux, 2002.. ;) [18:06] yes, but it's the same way like close or minimize .... :/ [18:06] just need knowedge about xml .... [18:06] if someone is able to code something with close, minimize, he is able to code with above and shade and stick [18:07] brice__: not necessarily.. i only have two options i can suggest. (1) try looking at the code again slowly, it really is not hard. (2) try recreating ambiance theme from crux. [18:08] brice__: btw, why exactly are you looking to add those buttons? [18:08] (3) found a creator of any other metacity theme ;) [18:08] thats not *my* suggestion ;) [18:09] vish: I stay around, I wont be mmore boring about this, i continue my code try ... I will see ... If you meet someone, any information .... thx a lot [18:09] you're welcome.. :) [18:20] angry/sad mode on [19:30] heh, so much for trying to help brice__ ! /me got literally nagged in PM [19:30] metacity xml is not really very hard, and IMO, quite easy to actually understand what it does [19:31] but he wants someone to look into the theme and write it for him … o.0 and just cause he likes it that way.. [19:39] lol [20:45] hey all [21:25] hey coz_ [21:26] Can you review for me this desktop background? [21:26] http://divajutta.com/doctormo/art/edu/perspective.png [21:28] doctormo: I'm not sure how I feel about that blue background, I think I liked it more before [21:29] doctormo: I also wonder if there should be slightly less earth visible, I'm not sure but I think it might be better with slightly more space [22:01] highvoltage: Hello [22:10] highvoltage: So, like that you think? [22:34] doctormo, hey guy