[01:03] <palhmbs> oi - why is it taking so long to install xulrunner with synaptic?
[01:03] <micahg> palhmbs: what release?
[01:04] <palhmbs> 10.10 --- with 1.9.2.15+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.10.10.1
[01:05] <micahg> hmm, it shouldn't
[01:05] <micahg> or rather not any longer than any other time
[01:05] <palhmbs> it done this earlier to me too... I gave up that time and just installed it manually
[01:05] <micahg> palhmbs: what does ps afx show you
[01:05] <palhmbs> could it be a permissions problem?
[01:06] <palhmbs> 1 sec
[01:06] <palhmbs> 18019 pts/3    S+     0:00                              \_ /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2.15/xulrunner-bin --gre-versio
[01:07] <palhmbs> that's the xulrunner process - what else am I supposed to be looking for? - I'm running synaptic under trickle...
[01:07] <palhmbs> not that that should make a difference....
[01:08] <micahg> yeah, that's not going to work, that's weird
[01:08] <palhmbs> this thing has been installing for over 1/2 hr...
[01:08] <palhmbs> it's very annoying that every time I have to install firefox this darned thing hangs
[01:08] <micahg> palhmbs: you don't need xulrunner for firefox
[01:09] <palhmbs> I suppose I should submit a bug, but I may be a operator error, I do mess with stuff on my machine quite a bit -- sorry.
[01:09] <micahg> palhmbs: can you pastebin the process tree above that?
[01:10] <palhmbs> micahg, sure, 2 secs.
[01:12] <palhmbs> micahg, -- here -- http://pastebin.com/YWvJTv9q
[01:13] <micahg> palhmbs: I'm not sure what trickle is
[01:13] <palhmbs> trickle is a bandwidth profiler...
[01:14] <palhmbs> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=trickle&searchon=all&suite=maverick&section=all
[01:16] <palhmbs> as far as I can tell from the output of ps afg - the xulrunner is trying to modify my run-mozilla.sh --
[01:16] <micahg> palhmbs: run-mozilla.sh is a wrapper around xulrunner which handles certain env variables
[01:18] <palhmbs> well the permissions on run-mozilla.sh look good - rwx r-x r-x root root....
[01:19] <palhmbs> I have no idea, maybe I'll just kill synaptic then manually install it
[01:19] <palhmbs> it was easier that way, but wasn't fixing the error
[01:19] <micahg> palhmbs: I think that code is actually unnecessary, I'll look into removing it, but that would only happen in natty
[01:20] <palhmbs> 1 thing I have changed - and since it's only been happening since I installed a firefox extension for Ubuntu One, I thought it may be related.
[01:20] <micahg> ah, it's already been removed, so nothing for me to do, but I'm curious why you're stuck
[01:21] <micahg> can you run xulrunner-1.9.2 --gre-version from the command line?
[01:21] <palhmbs> yep - 1.9.2.15
[01:21] <palhmbs> o.O
[01:22] <micahg> you might want to kill it and start it again
[01:22] <micahg> I wonder if there's a parallel job running
[01:22] <micahg> but even that shouldn't matter
[01:23] <micahg> er, it actually would...
[01:23] <palhmbs> it's weird, I just killed synaptic - did a apt-get update, it told me to do dpkg --configure -a - which install xulrunner fine....
[01:23] <palhmbs> go figure.
[01:24] <palhmbs> if this happens on any more xulrunner synaptic installs, I'll definitely be back to figure this one out - and submit a bug report
[01:24] <micahg> palhmbs: it actually looks like you had 1.9.2.14 and 1.9.2.15 running at the same time
[01:25] <palhmbs> but thanks for the help - 1 thing I did learn today... ps afg - cool
[01:25] <palhmbs> micahg, how the heck?
[01:26] <micahg> oh, neverming
[01:26] <micahg> *nevermind
[01:26] <micahg> I misread the flow chat :)
[01:27] <micahg> palhmbs: please, if you have more issues, do come back
[01:28] <palhmbs> micahg, np - and thanks again.
[01:32] <palhmbs> micahg, some additional info, which I doubt is very helpful -- ** (synaptic:15831): WARNING **: no statusfd changes/content updates in terminal for 120 seconds      ** (synaptic:15831): WARNING **: TerminalTimeout in step: Configuring xulrunner-1.9.2
[01:33] <palhmbs> I was running synaptic from the terminal, so it showed some error warnings...
[01:33] <micahg> palhmbs: well, it just seems like it hung, if that happens again, maybe attach gdb and try for a backtrace
[01:34] <palhmbs> right - gdb next time, thanks
[06:18] <RedSingularity> Under the "affects" column of a bug report, I assume that you cannot remove a wrong package completely?
[06:19] <ddecator> not that i know of. you can just mark it invalid
[06:20] <RedSingularity> ddecator: thats good too.  Thanks.
[07:04] <palhmbs> what is desktopcouchdb and why does it hog all of my resources so...
[14:09] <abhinav-> hggdh, thanks :-)
[14:10] <hggdh> abhinav-, welcome, and thank you for helping! :-)
[14:12] <abhinav-> hggdh, I have just started contributing, but I am enjoying it :)
[14:14] <hggdh> abhinav-, good! If you have doubts, please do not hesitate to ask, either here, or on the mailing list
[14:17] <abhinav-> hggdh, yes, sure, I will
[15:59] <patrickmw_> bdmurray:  have you had a chance to get through your bug notifications? I subscribed you to a few bugs yesterday
[16:00]  * bdmurray cries
[16:00] <bdmurray> patrickmw_: no not yet
[16:50] <micahg> bdmurray: are we having a meeting in 10 minutes?
[16:51] <bdmurray> micahg: That is when it is scheduled ....  I've been rather swamped lately.
[16:52]  * micahg wonders if others were planning on attending
[17:04] <bdmurray> jordan: you are all set sorry about not getting to it sooner
[17:05] <bdmurray> Anybody interested in a bug squad meeting?
[17:09] <JFo> bdmurray, I'd be interested in them. This time slot though is when I have team meetings usually though.
[17:09] <charlie-tca> calendar showed it at 11:00 UTC
[17:10] <JFo> -ETOOMANYTHOUGHS
[17:10] <charlie-tca> no
[17:10] <charlie-tca> 18:00 UTC, I think
[17:10] <JFo> hmmm, yeah I show it at 1PM EST on my cal
[17:11] <JFo> so in 50 minutes
[17:11] <charlie-tca> 11:0-0 MST
[17:11] <bdmurray> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Meeting shows 1700 UTC
[17:13] <JFo> looks like the fridge calendar is wrong
[17:13] <JFo> at any rate, I am interested :)
[17:15] <bdmurray> JFo: is there something specific you wanted to discuss and does it require a large audience?
[17:16] <JFo> bdmurray, not really, was just interested in attending a bugsquad meeting since I have not yet
[17:17] <JFo> if there is nothing to discuss then we shouldn't do it just because I want to :)
[17:17] <bdmurray> ah in that case I think we should postpone until next Tuesday and send out an announcement
[17:17] <JFo> works for me
[17:17] <bdmurray> JFo: do you have the calendar url handy?
[17:18] <JFo> bdmurray, to the item itself?
[17:18]  * JFo goes to get it
[17:18] <bdmurray> JFo: the fridge one but I got it thanks
[17:19] <JFo> ah, np
[17:19]  * JFo goes to grab lunch then
[17:20] <bdmurray> micahg: the team meeting is on your calendar?
[17:21]  * micahg checks
[17:21] <micahg> bdmurray: I have it on my internal calendar
[17:22] <micahg> it's not on the fridge though
[17:22] <bdmurray> https://www.google.com/calendar/render?eid=YmxicnVpa2ZiOXNqa25hZ2NyY2Z2cTdpNjRfMjAxMTAzMDhUMTgwMDAwWiBqNXE4NW1taTZ1anZqdGlpNXMxbjNsaTVpb0Bn&ctz=Etc/GMT&gsessionid=OK&sf=true&output=xml ?
[17:24] <charlie-tca> http://www.ubuntu-news.org/calendars/fridge/
[17:25] <charlie-tca> 6 pm entry
[17:26] <micahg> oh, hmm, my fridge calendar isn't loading
[17:26] <charlie-tca> yeah, takes it a bit
[17:26] <charlie-tca> then you have to change to week view, to see the meeting as "ubuntu"
[17:48] <abhinav-> SpamapS, hi, I have pushed the changes to the tomcat6 branch for bug 707405 . take a look when you have time :)
[17:48] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 707405 in tomcat6 (Ubuntu) "tomcat6-instance-create should allow -c -1 (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/707405
[18:23] <nemo> http://m8y.org/tmp/temp.txt - maverick.   is this sort of thing (xorg using a bunch of memory) enough to warrant a bug?
[18:23] <nemo> I can't think of any good way to get more info out of it
[18:58] <BUGabundo> evening
[18:59] <erkan^> hello
[18:59] <erkan^> i have problem with thunderbird
[18:59] <erkan^> Inloggen op server imap.googlemail.com is mislukt.
[18:59] <erkan^> what must i do?
[18:59] <micahg> erkan^: english please?
[19:00] <erkan^> ok i try micahg
[19:00] <erkan^> that say "inlog on server imap.google.com is error
[19:00] <erkan^> but yesterday was it good inlog
[19:00] <erkan^> and i can inlog by www.gmail.com, no problem
[19:00] <micahg> erkan^: maybe it's a google issue?
[19:00] <erkan^> but in thunderbird problem now
[19:00] <micahg> my google IMAP is working in thunderbird...
[19:01] <erkan^> 3.1.8 or 3.1.9 ?
[19:01] <micahg> 3.1.9
[19:01] <erkan^> ow
[19:01] <erkan^> my is 3.1.8
[19:01] <micahg> right, I'm on natty
[19:02] <erkan^> did you download --> http://www.mozillamessaging.com ?
[19:02] <erkan^> thence...
[19:02] <erkan^> )-:
[19:02] <micahg> erkan^: no, I uploaded 3.1.9 to natty :)
[19:03] <erkan^> yes i see
[19:03] <micahg> erkan^: it's not a security update
[19:03] <erkan^> which?
[19:03] <micahg> that's why I didn't push it to the stable releases
[19:03] <micahg> 3.1.9
[19:03] <erkan^> but I have seen http://www.mozillamessaging.com/nl/thunderbird/ --> 3.1.9
[19:05] <micahg> erkan^: yep, I was going to upload it to the stable PPA, where is your 3.1.8 from?
[19:06] <erkan^> for security, i don't use PPA, micahg
[19:06] <micahg> erkan^: good policy :)
[19:07] <erkan^> Is PPA dangerous ?
[19:08] <micahg> erkan^: well, depends on the PPA, but they're not officially supported
[19:09] <erkan^> a wait
[19:11] <erkan^> that is my picture, micahg
[19:12] <erkan^> for setting - thunderbird
[19:35] <SpamapS> abhinav-: I saw that, and thanks for the fix with the * vs + .. I had been going a different direction w/ it when I was testing it and never did change the * back. :)
[19:41] <abhinav-> SpamapS,  :-) thank you, for the suggestion of using regex. it's a much better solution now
[19:49] <erkan^> micahg, is it possible thunderbird.deb 3.1.9 ?
[19:50] <micahg> erkan^: yeah, eventually, but it'll be in the thunderbird-stable PPA
[19:55] <erkan^> micahg, #debian is angry on me :/
[20:39] <yokto> hello im on i am running a natty 64 and it seems vim is broken  because it requires vim-runtime =2:7.3.035+hg~8fdc12103333-1ubuntu4 but only ... ubuntu3 is available
[20:40] <micahg> yokto: that's just waiting on it to build I think
[20:40] <yokto> ah ok
[20:59] <hggdh> actually, just available
[21:00] <hggdh> yokto, it is normal that some packages in natty will have missing dependencies; you have to be careful when upgrading
[21:12] <yokto> ok thanks
[21:39] <hggdh> brb, buying a replacement AC filter
[21:45] <JFo> I need to do that at some point as well
[21:46] <charlie-tca> must be rough to *need* an AC filter