[00:34] mterry - have you updated your machine today? [00:34] the appmenu is totally broken :( === ogra is now known as Guest2736 === Guest2736 is now known as ogra_ === asac_ is now known as asac === ArneGoet1e is now known as ArneGoetje [03:30] 1.0 GiB + 936.0 KiB = 1.0 GiBcompiz [03:30] oh joy :D [03:50] And that probably doesn't even take into account the memory taken up by the textures in the pseudo-VRAM your intel card uses :) [03:52] RAOF: I use nvidia === sabdfl1 is now known as sabdfl [06:55] * achiang thinks it would be nice if gnome-terminal had some magic to make (LP: #xxxxxx) clickable, and DTRT in your browser [07:37] good morning [07:44] Good morning [08:23] Morning all! [08:23] hey Sweetshark, guten Morgen [08:24] wie gehts/ [08:24] ? [08:25] gut danke! (nur damit dass mit dem franzoesisch auf #ubuntu-desktop nicht zur fixen idee wird) [08:25] +1 [08:25] je ne parlez-pas francais [08:27] I had a chat with _rene_ yesterday. He said he does not intend to release a 3.3.2rc1 at all. So I guess we should upload the 3.3.1 final we have now to natty main. [08:27] Sweetshark: "make it so" [08:28] Sweetshark: that now built for arm, and -l10n as well, right? [08:28] hey pitti, Sweetshark (almost one hour without looking at IRC, new record! \o/) [08:29] pitti: doko reported it to build on arm. I had a l10n build in my ppa, so it should be good. [08:29] bonjour didrocks [08:29] Sweetshark: rocking [08:29] Sweetshark: want me to sponsor from the PPA, or from chinstrap? [08:29] didrocks: Heya! [08:30] pitti: from chinstrap. The versioning in the ppa was fubared. [08:31] mvo: hm, you said that you updated the bugs for the maverick SRU upload? All three of bug 665218, bug 665572, and bug 665722 are still incomplete upstream and unfixed in natty [08:31] Launchpad bug 665218 in aptdaemon "Software-center reports a progamming error in aptdaemon but without any details" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/665218 [08:31] Launchpad bug 665572 in aptdaemon "Unhandlable programming error (LockFailedError) - lock.status_lock doesn't contain a valid path" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/665572 [08:31] Launchpad bug 665722 in aptdaemon "VirtualBox installation fails" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/665722 [08:32] pitti: right, the patch adds more information to the code (capture the errors better). the bugs itself are unfixed still, but without the additional info there is no way to get them fixed [08:36] mvo: ah, I see [08:36] mvo: so the maverick bugs shouldn't be closed with this as well [08:40] yeah, I will reopen them [09:07] * pitti goes to merge poppler; that'll take a bit [09:08] Sweetshark: you'll poke me once the new OO.o is on chinstrap? [09:12] pitti, do you have any clue about the error in the i386 retracer log? [09:12] seb128: the same "big wadl dump" one? [09:13] hi dev folks! This is the second computer having problem with gnome-session-daemon hanging (or dysfunction) on login. If you could tell me who to speak to, I can help tracing this bug as it hits every single time I log in. [09:13] pitti, no a bad argument in a gzip call [09:13] speakman, hi, there is no gnome-session-daemon [09:13] speakman, there is gnome-session or gnome-settings-daemon [09:13] seb128: sounds like broken core dump [09:13] ooops [09:14] the first handle your session the second your settings [09:14] gnome-settings-daemon was it :D [09:14] seb128: new poppler is an ABI bump unfortunately :/ [09:14] but oh well, we had these before [09:14] pitti, to change... [09:14] it's like every second poppler update has one [09:14] speakman, how does it hang? are you sure it hangs and doesn't crash or exit? [09:15] I'm a developer myself, but totalt new to gnome. But I thought I could help fix this issue since it's hitting me every time I log in. [09:16] seb128: According to the full backtrace, it doesn't actually hang (it's resting on poll()) but killing it with SIGKILL (SIGTERM doesn't do anything) and restarting it at least get me my desktop apperance back. [09:16] seems what you describe is it running [09:16] can you copy your .xsession-errors somewhere? [09:16] It is probably. It's just not doing it's job :D [09:17] seb128: absolutely! [09:17] http://pastebin.com/45Z2R8dM [09:18] This is my xorg.conf as well; http://pastebin.com/Z0xXPqVu [09:19] (I'm on dual GPU with four monitors, but this happens on a single GPU single monitor computer as well. With very little in common with my computer) [09:20] speakman, the warning about randr not being available is weird [09:20] ok? [09:20] xrandr is pretty standard nowadays [09:20] Oh, look at my xorg.conf [09:20] It doesn't play well with Xmonad IIRC [09:20] But still, it happens on the other single monitor non-Xmonad computer as well, so :) [09:20] hum [09:21] do you have modern computers there? [09:21] I -think- you can ignore that error [09:21] seb128: pretty much [09:21] there is a known race between the gdm and the session gnome-settings-daemon [09:21] seb128: Xeon W3680 / 24GB DDR3 1333MHz / 2xOCZ Vertex 2 SSD in RAID0 [09:22] what's common with the other computer having the same issue is SSD's [09:22] bug #639913 [09:22] (I've never, through my many many years with Ubuntu, seen this before. Not even on many Maverick installations) [09:22] Launchpad bug 639913 in gnome-settings-daemon "gnome-settings-daemon random crash at session start (xorg badmatch error)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/639913 [09:22] ups [09:22] hm? [09:23] wait [09:23] that's the wrong number [09:23] :) [09:25] For the record; Both computers experiencing this issue is entirely new and had Maverick installed from scratch. [09:25] bug #649809 [09:25] Launchpad bug 649809 in gdm "the session settings manager can try starting before the login screen one exits" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/649809 [09:25] It has been an issue since the first login. On both machines. [09:25] speakman, ^ I think that's your issue [09:26] speakman, you can try the sleep workaround from comment #68 if you want [09:28] Thanks, I'm just reading through the comments... [09:29] speakman, there is quite some "noise" from before we figured what was the issue [09:29] morning mvo, are there any plans to get multi arch to python-apt? [09:29] Has it anything to do with the fast HDD's? Because I'm (2xVertex 2 in RAID0) experiencing it all the time, and my mates (LVM'd OCZ RevoDrive) experienceing it randomly. [09:30] speakman, yes, it's mostly a race, if your system loads the session g-s-d before the login one has exited you get the issue [09:30] where io is most of the loading work [09:30] seb128: that's probably it then. [09:31] speakman, you can try the sleep 1 workaround to see if that "fixes" it [09:31] if that does it's clearly that race [09:31] it will be fixed for natty [09:31] seb128: just have to say, the Vertex 2 is some extremely fast disks. And two in RAID0 makes about 600MB/s random 4k both reads and writes :) [09:31] * speakman soon at #68 :D [09:32] But while reading; Do you have any idea how to tell GDM on which monitor it should show the login screen? [09:33] I think it uses the "primary" monitor [09:33] you can probably define in xorg which one that is [09:33] ok, thanks :) === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|afk [10:07] pitti, so this retracer gzip crash, should apport be robust to such issues? [10:07] i.e do you want to keep that buggy retracing as a test and fix the issue? [10:10] seb128, pitti: so new gnomish upstream versions (and build failures like gdk-pixbuf) are ongoing. any idea when this will slow down? [10:10] doko_, it will not [10:10] doko_, stack libraries got updates every second weeks [10:11] those are minor updates, out of transition arch all,any mismatches there is no issues [10:11] good morning everyone [10:11] so would you mind test-building gdk-pixbuf before uploads? we had exactly this build failure before ... [10:11] doko_: gdk-pixbuf fails to build? [10:11] pitti: all archs [10:11] oh, from last night [10:11] pitti, seems the bug you fixed recently is back [10:12] weird, that was fixed upstream [10:12] pitti: is somebody subscribed to build failure emails? [10:12] I guess it worked on Robert's local build because he had the -dev installed [10:12] doko_: the uploader, i. e. Robert [10:12] pitti, let me bet, you probably forgot to update the vcs [10:12] pitti, it seems your revision was dropped [10:13] pitti: I mean, somebody who gets all build failure mails [10:13] doko_, you? [10:13] like a tech-lead ... ;) [10:13] seb128: there is no Vcs-Bzr for gdk-pixbuf, I didn't commit at all [10:13] pitti, there is one I guess, ~ubuntu-desktop/gdk-pixbuf/ubuntu [10:13] seb128: yes, I am, that's why I'm nagging ;-) [10:13] seb128: ah, should be added to debian/control then; sorry [10:14] doko_, relax on build issues, they happen and are handled, it's not breaking or blocking anything [10:14] doko_: I'm sure Robert will handle it once he gets up [10:14] pitti, well I say that but knowing how desktop packages are handled I bet it's in the vcs [10:14] seb128: we have some like gvfs which use the new-style one [10:14] pitti, it's likely that the control change got dropped because we had a direct sync on debian or something [10:14] seb128: anyway, I'll reapply my fix and reupload [10:14] pitti, I think gvfs is the only one [10:14] pitti, thanks [10:15] pitti, but for any desktop source you can try to get lp:~ubuntu-desktop/source/ubuntu first [10:15] don't really on control [10:15] rely [10:15] pitti, btw meeting reminder ;-) [10:16] seb128: sorry, I can't relax if it's needed to build gcj/openjdk ... [10:17] doko_, well it's likely the current upload didn't count since it built nowhere so for sure the previous version can still be installed? [10:17] likely -> like [10:28] seb128, doko_: gdk-pixbuf fixed/uploaded [10:28] pitti, danke [10:32] nice, i can dock my laptop again! [10:35] hey chrisccoulson [10:35] chrisccoulson, how are you? [10:35] did you have docking issues? [10:35] seb128 - i'm good thanks [10:35] yeah, my laptop crashed when i docked before [10:35] but it doesn't now [10:36] it's a shame that unity is still not usable on a dual-monitor setup :( [10:37] due to the menus thing? [10:38] pitti, btw not sure you saw my ping before [10:38] pitti, it's meeting reminder day [10:38] seb128 - no, it's worse than that now [10:38] when i click on the bfb, the dash opens on the other screen ;) [10:38] and when i click on any of the indicators, the menus all open in the top-left corner of the primary screen too [10:39] (rather than next to the indicator i clicked on) [10:39] nice ;-) [10:40] pitti: if I didn't miss any email, I think seb128 failed at reminding you the team reminder email :) [10:40] oh, seb128 did it :) [10:40] 11:15:39 [10:41] * didrocks has no time to follow #ubuntu-desktop, quite scary :/ [10:42] didrocks, see also 2 minutes before what you just wrote [10:42] what a reminding reminder? :-) [10:42] ;-) [10:44] seb128: I saw it, thanks; will prepare report now and send out [10:45] pitti, btw what about the apport one? I let the i386 retracer down on it for now in case you want to make apport robust to it [10:45] seb128: ok, I'll have a look afterwards [10:45] pitti, we don't especially need it running now, it retracer yesterday and the amd64 is running [10:45] so no hurry [10:49] reminder sent [10:56] seb128: crash fixed in trunk, lock removed [10:57] pitti, you rock, thanks! [10:57] * pitti hugs seb128 [10:57] * seb128 hugs pitti [10:57] * seb128 hugs didrocks as well [10:57] great unity work ;-) [11:01] * didrocks hugs seb128 [11:02] btw, is there any trick how I can navigate the dash or places with the keyboard? [11:02] pitti: no yet, gord is on it [11:02] i. e. I type "d-f" (which works now \o/), it finds "d-feet", and I want to run it [11:02] didrocks: ah, cool === ogra_ is now known as ogra === MacSlow|afk is now known as MacSlow [11:42] pitti: you should find a libreoffice_3.3.1-1ubuntu5_source.changes and a libreoffice-l10n_3.3.1-1ubuntu5_source.changes in 3.3.1-1ubuntu5 on chinstrap [11:48] Sweetshark: does libreoffice-gtk prefer -human over -tango? (i. e. does human come first in the or?) [11:49] Sweetshark: both uploaded, thanks! [11:50] seb128: as you probably already figured, adding a 2 sec delay prior to loading gnome-settings-daemon did the trick. Thanks alot! [11:50] speakman, you're welcome [11:51] speakman, thanks for offering to help debugging the issue [11:51] :) [11:52] pitti: it prefers human [11:58] Now I have to figure out why my software RAID0 setup sometimes doesn't work at boot. Any idea what channel to go? :) [11:59] not really, #ubuntu-devel [12:04] pitti: I am a bit confused by merges.ubuntu.com. It still talks about libreoffice-1:3.3.0-1ubuntu1 although we are already at 3.3.1-1ubuntu4 (or ubuntu5). Why? [12:04] Sweetshark: I guess it's badly behind [12:04] it's a bit of a step child these days [12:04] as most people use bzr for merging [12:04] pitti: k [12:06] so my initial assumption that it show stuff only up to 2011-02-11 (judging by the chart at the end) was not that wrong. === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:31] Could you give me a hint where the repo of the openoffice.org-dictionaries package is? I did not find it at openoffice.org-scribblers and there is no Vcs-* entry in the control file. or is there no vcs at all? [12:32] Sweetshark: we don't have a custom bzr for it [12:32] Sweetshark: you can use lp:ubuntu/openoffice.org-dictionaries (the auto-imported ones) if you want [12:37] pitti: thanks for the info [12:41] hi guys! I got a crash in unity-window-decorator, bug 730974, which is supposed to be fixed in the version I am using.Should the bug be reopened? [12:41] Launchpad bug 730974 in compiz "unity-window-decorator crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_window_get_events() (dup-of: 725284)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730974 [12:41] Launchpad bug 725284 in compiz "unity-window-decorator crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_window_get_events()" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/725284 [12:44] hey Ampelbein, yes, do you have steps to trigger it? [12:44] it should be reopen in any cases, having a way to trigger it would be better though [12:46] seb128: sadly I didn't find a sure way. It seems to have something to do with moving windows to other workspaces, that results in about one third of the cases in the crash [12:48] ok, no worry, reopen the bug in any case and write what you figure in a comment [12:50] chrisccoulson, what's this about appmenu being broken? [12:52] hey mterry [12:52] mterry, it's all your fault! ;-) [12:54] seb128, doh. which upload did it? Is it still broken? [12:56] mterry, no, I was just joking ;-) [12:56] seb128, don't scare me like that. ;) [12:56] mterry, not sure what you are replying to, but the menus seem to vanish after minimizing dialogs since yesterday libdbusmenu update [12:57] mterry, so ti's likely due to ted's fixes for kenvandine's issue [12:57] chrisccoulson had messaged me last night when I wasn't around saying that appmenus were broken [12:57] ok, that's probably it since that's what he mentioned today [12:57] OK, well then I'll go relax in my not-my-fault chair [12:58] mterry, the update fixed one of the bugs I assigned to you yesterday btw, I closed it [12:58] seb128, I noticed, thanks. [12:58] you're welcome [12:59] I also confirmed the shotwell issue is still there [12:59] so maybe tackle this one next when you get bored of others thing you do [12:59] :-/ k [12:59] still investigating alt mnemonics [12:59] the yorba guys are doing great work so let's try to keep them happy ;-) [13:00] mterry, yeah no hurry, keep going on this one for now [13:00] mterry - yeah, the panel seems to sometimes discard menus when you minimize windows now [13:00] with some luck by the time you are done ted will have fixed some of the other issues ;-) [13:00] so, you lose the menus when you restore :( [13:01] chrisccoulson, pfft, I thought GNOME discovered no one minimizes anyway, right? [13:01] lol [13:09] Sweetshark: argh, armel FTBFS again :( [13:25] pitti: however it seems not to be a LO problem [13:25] pitti: it segfaults on installing ca-certificates [13:26] eww === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:41] hey seb128 [13:42] hello kenvandine [13:42] so yesterday's fix caused more fun :) [13:42] kenvandine, you noticed? [13:43] no... just saw your comments [13:43] you said menus go away after minimizing dialogs? [13:47] kenvandine, that's what other said, I didn't notice this one myself [13:48] ok, i can't reproduce that [13:48] kenvandine, I confirmed shotwell is having issues again though (not due to yesterday update) and gnome-bt is still buggy [13:48] yeah, i noticed shotwell last night... some of the menus don't become sensitive when they should [13:48] it doesn't switch to use the right menus either [13:48] like if you click between photos and events or videos [13:49] ugh [13:49] the menus don't follow the categories [13:49] empathy has some buggy menu cases as well [13:49] the contact menu in the chat window? [13:50] kenvandine, right [13:50] kenvandine, check the libdbusmenu open bugs if you want, there is a second one, I've assigned them to mterry === kamstrup is now known as kamstrup|away [13:56] kenvandine: have you seen bug #731023 ? it looks like the unity gir package doesn't have the proper deps or something, so gir1.2-dee-whatever is missing? [13:56] Launchpad bug 731023 in ubuntuone-client "ubuntuone-syncdaemon crashed with ImportError in get_interfaces_for_object(): No module named Dee" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/731023 [13:57] dobey, indeed [13:59] dobey, yeah the unity gir file has types from Dee [13:59] but it doesn't have a include [14:00] lovely [14:00] dobey, i'll fix that [14:01] * bcurtiswx waves to room [14:01] hey bcurtiswx [14:01] kenvandine: cool, thanks [14:01] hi seb128 [14:01] this is what i meant yesterday when i said "pretty much every gir ever is broken" :) [14:01] dobey, this isn't why syncdaemon broke for me though... [14:02] i have the dee gir installed :) [14:02] kenvandine: sure [14:02] i missing having working file sync [14:02] :-D [14:02] kenvandine: not entirely sure what is up with your crash yet [14:12] isn't u1sdtool --quit supposed to kill all processes and stop them from automatically respawning? [14:15] * bcurtiswx stabs dbus http://paste.ubuntu.com/577473/ [14:16] i can't stop u1sd from maxing out my CPU! [14:16] well, 1 of the 2 [14:16] i've done --quit as well, still respawns [14:21] tedg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577473/ [14:21] :( [14:22] bcurtiswx, 1) I'm not the developer you're looking for :) 2) sudo and dbus aren't friends [14:22] bcurtiswx: it's probably crashing and something is respawning it, though not sure what [14:22] and yeah, why are you doing sudo? [14:23] i did it with and without, just to see if i got a change (i.e. stopped the daemon from running) [14:23] that was a paste with [14:23] tedg, dobey thx [14:23] bcurtiswx: in 'top' does the pid keep changing? [14:23] yes [14:24] i wonder what is continually trying to talk to it in dbus [14:24] feels like a bad RPG where you kill a zombie but it just keeps coming back :-\ [14:24] bcurtiswx: is anything else using lots of cpu? [14:24] no, just u1sd [14:24] huh [14:25] Xorg is next with 3% :P [14:26] shen me niao [14:27] bcurtiswx: uninstall ubuntuone-client for the moment i guess? [14:28] bcurtis@wx:~$ u1sdtool --quit | ubuntuone-syncdaemon still running. [14:28] bcurtiswx: yes, dbus isn't going to work if it's crashing [14:28] hrmm [14:28] OK, brb [14:29] i wish i knew what was causing it to respawn like that [14:29] anyone seen rodrigo? [14:34] pitti: is there any way to retrigger the armel build? [14:35] Sweetshark: yes, there is; want me to? [14:35] Sweetshark: people who can upload a package have a "retry this build" button on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/1:3.3.1-1ubuntu5/+buildjob/2307514 [14:36] pitti: i was looking for that button ;). [14:36] Sweetshark: you can't do it yourself, as long as you aren't an uploader [14:36] Sweetshark: did you figure out what's wrong with the Java keytool? or do you think it was a spurious failure? [14:36] pitti: please do. Maybe another machine is more lucky with installing the prerequs [14:37] Sweetshark: done [14:37] pitti: no, i have not investigated into that. [14:43] pitti: don't bug-buddy and apport-gtk essentially compete for the same role on ubuntu? shouldn't we make apport-gtk Provides and Conflicts with bug-buddy anyhow, just to be safe? [14:44] Q-FUNK: they don't conflict package-wise; if you install bug-buddy, GNOME should use this, and only this [14:44] I don't want to break the bug-buddy functionality [14:44] (and then apport would still be used for all non-gnome packages) [14:44] ... or bug reports [14:46] pitti: ok. is there some sort of debian alternative used to determine which one will be used? [14:47] Q-FUNK: no, as they don't use the same interface AFAIK [14:47] at least the last time I looked at it, bug buddy worked in terms of providing a signal handler (more more specifically, some central libgnome something installed the signal handler and calls bug buddy if available) [14:47] for apport programs need to actually crash, and the kernel calls apport [14:48] could apport somehow benefit from the stuff that that library collects? [14:48] because here, whenever nm-applet crashes, bug-buddy is called, but then it complains that it cannot collect enough evidence because the debug packages are not installed. [14:49] I would then prefer having apport catch those crashes, but it never launches for some reason [14:49] so.. unity.. no alt-f2 to run things? what about typing in a command in the search window box thing that pops up when I hit the super key? [14:50] gnomesegvhandler [14:51] SpamapS: Alt+F2 will come back, just not done yet [14:52] pitti: thats good to know. Is there a way I can run the things that the search does find? [14:52] SpamapS: click on it [14:52] SpamapS: keyboard navigation will still come as well [14:54] pitti: good... seems the last 2 things that I'd want to consider moving are in place.. well that and supporting multiple monitors with diff resolutions. [14:56] hmm. actually, apport-gtk also makes gtk complain about a missing gnomesegvhandler [14:56] silly question, but why is apport-gtk in /usr/share instead of /usr/lib or /usr/bin ? [15:01] Q-FUNK: you shouldn't call /usr/share/apport/apport yourself, that's the kernel-side interface [15:01] Q-FUNK: apport-gtk/kde as well [15:01] pitti: in 15 minutes we will know if the error was spurious ... [15:01] Q-FUNK: the CLI interfaces are ubuntu-bug and apport-retrace [15:02] pitti: do you recall the package that I need to remove to keep Ubuntu one from repeatedly crashing? gir1..something [15:02] pitti: ok, but how does apport get triggered if at all, these days? I simply haven't seen any single apport message in the notification area in ages, but bug-buddy regularly pops up. [15:02] robbiew: did we talk about that? I don't remember this at all [15:03] pitti: we didn't...just thought you might know :P [15:03] Q-FUNK: are you running maverick? it's disabled by default in stable releases (see /etc/default/apport) [15:03] I ran into this before...will chase it down with DX...unity related [15:03] robbiew: dobey might be able to help? [15:03] pitti: natty on this host [15:03] KenEdwards: hey...I'm being bombed by U1 crashing repeatedly [15:03] Q-FUNK: update-notifier brings up the GUI once there's a crash; do you have something in /var/crash/ ? [15:03] I ran into this before...and needed to remove some gir related package [15:04] pitti: I had until a few minutes ago [15:04] robbiew, you shouldn't have to remove any gir [15:04] robbiew, if there is a crasher bug we should get it properly reported and fixed [15:04] robbiew, do you have details on the crash? [15:05] pitti: seems that update-otifier is not installed here, for some reason. that might explain it. should apport-gtk Depends on it, then? [15:05] Q-FUNK, uninstall bug-buggy [15:05] seb128: yup, did that now [15:06] seb128: well...I'll try...it locks up the machine b/c it repeats so fast...will open today [15:06] Q-FUNK: I'd rather avoid it [15:06] Q-FUNK: abusing update-notifier is not quite ideal, but we have to do that until we get proper upstart user events [15:06] what's up? [15:06] pitti: or a Recommends, at least? [15:07] robbiew, try to use gdb on it to block it otherwise ;-) [15:07] robbiew: uninstall gir1.2-unity-3.0 to stop syncdaemon from crashing [15:07] ah ha! [15:07] thnx dobey [15:07] Q-FUNK: apport doesn't know anything about u-n, nor call it, etc. [15:07] i don't know why it keeps respawning instead of just crashing and burning, but the GIR bits for unity/dee/etc seem to still be fairly problematic :( [15:18] * didrocks wonders if it's because the dee gir is finally working than u1 is just having issue [15:18] before the override wasn't in the right dir [15:18] so, the import would fail [15:20] pitti: armel failed again, same issue, other machine. [15:22] pitti: seems the setup of ca-certificates-java 20100412 is a currently a sure way to fail. [15:22] Sweetshark: indeed, that looks like a recent java regression on armel [15:26] pitti: should I file a bug about it, if yes against what? openjdk on arm? [15:30] any way to force apport to send extra info and/or file a new report when testing a developer's possible fix? [15:32] pitti: hey [15:32] pitti: did you reject my maverick-proposed upload? [15:32] Sweetshark: please do [15:33] didrocks: I had to reupload because the source.changes didn't include the previous version [15:33] sorry, dobey ^ [15:33] hum, I was starting to wonder ;) [15:34] pitti: oh, weird. how do i make debuild include 2 versions in the .changes? [15:34] dobey: -S [15:34] ah ok [15:37] i'll try to remember that :) [15:41] -v isn't it? [15:41] erm, of course; sorry [15:43] chrisccoulson, can you give specifics about the libdbusmenu issue that started today for you? [15:50] pitti, seb128: have you guys seen rodrigo today? or is it a national holiday in .es too? [15:50] dobey: not that I remember [15:50] he's off this week iirc [15:50] he said last week he would be on holidays this week [15:51] ah so he is [15:51] just my luck === kamstrup|away is now known as kamstrup [16:06] back in a bit, will be back in time for the meeting [16:08] pitti: is giving the alt + F2 FFe a way to tell "hurry, hurry" :) [16:08] kenvandine: hi, could you upload humanity from : ~ubuntu-art-pkg/humanity/release/ ? it just contains bug fixes and icons for the new network indicator.. [16:10] vish, i can take a look [16:10] cool! thanks.. [16:22] didrocks: you mean that there's such a thing as a firefox accelerator? :D [16:22] seb128 - do you mean the issue where menus aren't appearing after minimizing a window? [16:23] bug 684784 is 2 bugs btw [16:23] Launchpad bug 684784 in indicator-application "indicator-applet-appmenu crashed with SIGSEGV in dbusmenu_menuitem_send_about_to_show() (dup-of: 723463)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/684784 [16:23] Launchpad bug 723463 in indicator-appmenu "indicator-applet-appmenu crashed with SIGSEGV in dbusmenu_menuitem_send_about_to_show()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723463 [16:23] 1 in unity (which looks like an obvious fix) [16:23] and 1 is in the indicator-applet too, but i've not yet got to the bottom of that [16:24] chrisccoulson, ok, feel free to split them out [16:25]