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smosero/16:01
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SpamapSaaaaaand compiz crashed16:01
hallyn\o16:01
ttxSpamapS: not enjoying dog food so much ?16:02
hallyni was actually just enjoying compiz on my other laptop.  thought desktop was looking nice16:02
smoserso, it appears that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting was not updated16:02
smoseror, if it was , then we dont have a meeting today16:02
smoser#startmeeting16:03
MootBotMeeting started at 10:03. The chair is smoser.16:03
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smoserok.16:03
jamespageo/16:03
smoserso, i think the link above is good except for the 'next meeting' note.16:03
smoserwe'll go off that agenda16:03
* robbiew needs to take a call...a few of them actually...so only lurking16:03
smoser[TOPIC] Review ACTION points from previous meeting16:04
MootBotNew Topic:  Review ACTION points from previous meeting16:04
robbiewso don't ask me about Natty Development Status16:04
smoser * Everyone - ISO testing.16:04
smoserI got through all of the ec2 testing, and found enough bugs to have something to do for beta16:04
smoserand http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntuserver/all seems to indicate that we got through all the tests.16:05
smoserso, good work on that.16:05
smoser[TOPIC] natty development16:05
MootBotNew Topic:  natty development16:05
smoserrobbiew, says he doesn't have anything here.16:05
smoserdoes anyone else ?16:05
SpamapShallyn: you have a potential FFe to propose, right?16:06
hallynhm.  yes, potentially for spice16:06
hallynthough I'm still skiddish about it16:06
DavieyIt probably makes sense for hallyn to investigate what needs doing, and propose a FFe if you think so hallyn16:07
hallynyup16:07
DavieyWe can't ack a FFe anyway :)16:07
smoserBeta is March 24.16:07
Davieytaht is aaaaaaaaaaages16:07
hallyn:)16:07
smoserMake sure (this is s a reminder for me) that if you've got things that you expect you'll get fixed, please open bugs, and target them16:07
smoserso they wont just get lost16:07
SpamapSI just want to bring it up for greater discussion that the FFe would be against qemu-kvm.16:07
SpamapSSo, if and when its time to propose the FFe, people should take notice and be ready. :)16:08
smoseranything else here ?16:08
hallynSpamapS: there *will* be a request to upload 0.14.0 of qemu-kvm16:08
hallynbut that's not with spice16:08
SpamapSsmoser: I've had targetted bugs removed from the target because they weren't considered release blockers...16:09
SpamapSWhich is , I guess, the general use case for targetting bugs.16:09
smoseryeah, but you should at least have the bugs open. and you can let other people decide if the are or are not milestonable16:09
Davieyso, like last cycle - we have some super secret tags to add to bugs we care about.16:09
Davieyserver-nrs for bugs we need to work on.16:10
smosernrs ?16:10
Davieysmoser, that is the secret sauce.16:10
SpamapSthat sounds funny if you say it... serverners16:10
SpamapSnext cycle will be even better.. serverors16:11
smoserwhat is nrs ?16:11
Davieysmoser, Natty Release Server16:11
SpamapSDo those get pulled into the wiki page automatically?16:11
smoserah, redundancy built in16:11
smoserwell done16:11
Davieysmoser, The alternative being server-nro - Natty Release Other16:11
smoserso.16:12
Davieysmoser, Other is not server teams area of work, but stuff we care about.16:12
* smoser has some things to tag with that.16:12
Daviey(ttx's awesome workflow)16:12
smoseris that documented somewhere other than right above ? it is new to me, but that does not mean a lot.16:12
Davieysmoser, No, it's not documented16:13
smoserok. moving on.16:13
smoserunless someone has something else, or wants to step up to give more info there and document it somewhere appropriate...16:13
smoser[TOPIC] Ubuntu Server Team Events16:13
MootBotNew Topic:  Ubuntu Server Team Events16:13
smoser * UKUUG Spring Conference - 22-24 March, ttx attending, talking OpenStack (and Ubuntu Server).16:14
smoseranything else ?16:14
hallynhttp://www.froscon.de/16:14
MootBotLINK received:  http://www.froscon.de/16:14
SpamapSMySQL UC coming up April 1616:14
hallynIt's not certain, but there's talk of a containers development mini-conf there16:14
SpamapSI'll be at the MySQL UC in Santa Clara, giving a talk on Drizzle and Natty16:15
hallyn(aug 20-21 in Germany)16:15
Davieysmoser, nack.16:15
SpamapSAug?16:15
smoserfair enough.16:15
smosermoving on16:16
smoser[TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)16:16
MootBotNew Topic:  Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)16:16
* smoser has something for hggdh if he is here16:16
hggdhyes?16:16
hggdh:-)16:16
smoserwhere do we stand with hardy on ec2 ?16:17
smoseras i recall some of your tests failed16:17
hggdhthere is a new kernel for hardy in proposed, and we will test it in a few16:17
smoserbut failed both with original hardy (released EC2) and the proposed.16:17
hggdhsome of the failures we found on ec2 were due to differences in kernel patches; I am told they were expected, and should not show up again16:18
smoserhggdh, and you're going to test, and I assume avoid the tests that hang in both existing and proposed.16:18
hggdh(i.e., the tests have been updated to consider these differences)16:18
smoserah. ok.16:19
smbThe security regression tests were always failing on hardy. At least some of them16:19
smoserwell, anyway you look at it, usre space was causing kernel crash.16:19
smoserthats not correct16:19
smoseruser space16:19
hggdhindeed. But all I can do is point out the issues16:19
smoseranyone else have anything for hggdh ?16:19
hggdhthe decision to accept/reject, in these cases, is not mine16:20
smoserhggdh, you have anything else ?16:20
smoserotherwise, moving on16:20
hggdhno, not from here16:21
smoser[TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)16:21
MootBotNew Topic:  Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)16:21
smbI am not sure exactly what I did last week16:21
smbThis week started to look at some patches for Lucid-ec2 and found that there could be dragons16:21
smoseranyone have anything for smb ? i do not.16:22
smbsmb, Sent a note to you and John with some more details16:22
smberrr make that smoser16:22
smosersmoser, i got your email16:22
smoser:)16:22
* smb is talking to himself again16:22
smoserk.16:22
smosermoving on16:22
SpamapSsmb I noticed some more people with lockups when using gigabit + NFS ..16:22
smoserwhoops.16:22
smosergoing back16:22
smbSpamapS, I wished I could replicate them16:23
SpamapSbug 66129416:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 661294 in linux (Ubuntu) "System lock-up when receiving large files (big data amount) from NFS server" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66129416:23
SpamapSsmb: right, I think that a new development is that there are some reports of non-NFS high speed transfers causing the same thing16:23
smbI am currently trying at least to verify the sending large files patch in Hardy and maybe in Maverick16:23
SpamapSsmb: and a full lspci for the affected servers. Just wondering if its still on your radar.16:24
smbThen there has been something that could affect people doing nfs from within kvm16:24
smbSpamapS, "It is full of stars!"16:24
smbSpamapS, IOW yes, though there is a lot there16:25
SpamapSOk, just wondering because a few close associates have been affected and are sort of at a loss since they can't go from hardy to lucid for fear of locking up their machines or having to run at 100Mbit.16:26
SpamapSwe should mvoe on16:26
smbIt sounded like a race of some sort, but then i tried16:26
smband would receive gigs of files on 1000Gbit16:27
smoser[TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Documentation Team (sommer)16:27
MootBotNew Topic:  Weekly Updates & Questions for the Documentation Team (sommer)16:27
smosersommer is not here.16:27
smoseranyone else want to talk about documentation ?16:27
Daviey(thanks smb)16:27
DavieyWell... we have had a recent question of translatins16:27
Davieytranslations.16:27
RoAkSoAxI hope things are going great with you.16:28
SpamapSI'll be working a lot on upstart docs.16:28
DavieyWe talked about it at UDS, and i hoped it might have been something that sommer was going to drive16:28
* RoAkSoAx will start working on updated Cluster Docs16:28
DavieySadly, he's had other commitments16:28
DavieyRoAkSoAx, Do you want to take the action of talking with the wider docs team? :)16:28
DavieyIf not, i will.16:29
RoAkSoAxDaviey: it's all yours :)16:29
Daviey"thanks"16:29
RoAkSoAxhehe16:29
smoser[ACTION] Daviey to talk with wider docs team regarding translations16:29
MootBotACTION received:  Daviey to talk with wider docs team regarding translations16:29
smoser[TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community16:30
MootBotNew Topic:  Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community16:30
smoseranyone have anything here?16:30
smoserok. moving on16:30
smoser[TOPIC] Open Discussion16:30
MootBotNew Topic:  Open Discussion16:30
smoseranyone have anythign for open discussion ?16:31
SpamapShah wow you waited a whole 15 seconds for the community ;)16:31
SpamapSI think thats supposed to be the Community Team16:31
RoAkSoAxSpamapS: nope, it was agreed to remove the "Community Team"16:31
smoseragenda needs fixing.16:31
smoseroh?16:32
RoAkSoAxand change it "The Ubuntu Community"16:32
DavieyNo, RoAkSoAx is correct16:32
smoserah.16:32
DavieyI had one more thing.... but i've lost it.16:32
smoserso, anything there ? we can go back... but IMO this qualifies as "open discussion" just as well as community team.16:32
SpamapSahh16:32
SpamapSahh ok16:32
DavieyOooo.. That was it janimo is my hero of the week.16:32
DavieyThat is all.16:33
RoAkSoAxsmoser: that's what I said but the decision to have "The Community Team" was preferred16:33
smoseryeah.16:33
smoserk. for open discussion, if someone wants some udev fun16:33
smoserbug 71202616:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 712026 in udev (Ubuntu Natty) "cloud-init.conf never runs, instance not reachable via ssh" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71202616:33
Daviey(janimo has apparently fixed the axis2c FTBFS bug that was causing us so much upset)16:33
hallynalso bug 727342 - debian doesn't have the fix we need yet16:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 727342 in open-vm-tools (Ubuntu) "package open-vm-dkms 2010.06.16-268169-3ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: open-vm-tools kernel module failed to build" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72734216:34
hallynand judging by dupes, there are a lot of people wanting it fixed16:34
smoserthe udev bug above raises its head a small percentage of time on i386 instances on ec2. resulting in (i think) dead udev, and thus either network devices coming up, or at least loss of their events.. it is fixed with a reboot.16:35
hallynits fixed in upstream git, but not any upstream release.  I can push a temp fix that'll make it work for us, but I suspect debian will not take it and will want to wait for an upstream release16:35
hallyn(emailed them and asked).  that is all16:35
SpamapSsmoser: so, the problem is the net-device-added event sometimes fails ?16:37
smoserthat is what i was suspecting16:37
smoserbut all i really have is output http://launchpadlibrarian.net/63369945/hung.txt16:37
SpamapSudevd-work[126]: open /dev/null failed: No such file or directory16:38
SpamapSinteresting16:38
SpamapSsmoser: we should discuss in #ubuntu-cloud later16:38
smoserwe can chat more on that offline SpamapS if you're interested, it is somethign that really needs fixing before beta as I suspect that it is a more general issue, and that i've only been lucky so far on i38616:38
SpamapSyeah probably16:39
RoAkSoAxhallyn: not always, just take the upstream fix and forward it to debian. Once they import a new upstream release they will drop the patch and we can sync16:39
SpamapSsome new race16:39
smoserSpamapS, bug 712034 is related16:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 712034 in udev (Ubuntu) "udev error messages to console" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71203416:39
smoser(covering the error messages, but most of the time udev doesn't croak)16:39
SpamapSsmoser: I think you should release us!16:39
smoser[TOPIC] Announce next meeting date and time16:40
MootBotNew Topic:  Announce next meeting date and time16:40
smoser        Tuesday, March 15 2011 16:00 UTC16:40
Davieyrocking.16:40
smosernothing more to see here folks16:40
smoserbe on your way16:40
smoser#endmeeting16:40
MootBotMeeting finished at 10:40.16:40
JFo\o/16:59
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bjf#startmeeting17:00
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apwo/17:00
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bjf[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting17:00
bjf[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty17:00
MootBotLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting17:00
MootBotLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty17:00
bjf# Meeting Etiquette17:00
bjf#17:00
bjf# NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input.17:00
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bjf[TOPIC] Release Metrics (JFo)17:00
MootBotNew Topic:  Release Metrics (JFo)17:00
JFoRelease Meeting Bugs (14 bugs, 9 Blueprints)17:00
JFo==== Beta 1 Milestoned Bugs (106 across all packages (up 35)) ====17:00
JFo * 6 linux kernel bugs (up 1)17:00
JFo * 0 linux-ti-omap bugs (no change)17:00
JFo * 0 linux-meta-ti-omap bug (no change)17:00
JFo==== Release Targeted Bugs (304 across all packages (up 33)) ====17:00
JFo * 19 linux kernel bugs (down 1)17:00
JFo * 0 linux-ti-omap bugs (no change)17:00
JFo * 0 linux-meta-ti-omap bug (no change)17:01
JFo==== Milestoned Features ====17:01
JFo * 7 blueprints (Including HWE Blueprints)17:01
JFo==== Maverick Updates Bugs ====17:01
JFo * 69 Linux Bugs (up 9)17:01
JFo==== Lucid Updates Bugs ====17:01
JFo * 94 Linux Bugs (no change)17:01
JFo==== Bugs with Patches Attached:79 (up 2) ====17:01
JFo * [[https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bugs?field.has_patch=on | Bugs with Patches]]17:01
JFo * [[http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ogasawara/csv-stats/bugs-with-patches/linux/ | Breakdown by status]]17:01
JFo..17:01
bjf[TOPIC] Blueprints: Natty Bug Handling (JFo)17:01
bjf[LINK] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/hardware-kernel-n-bug-handling17:01
MootBotNew Topic:  Blueprints: Natty Bug Handling (JFo)17:01
MootBotLINK received:  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/hardware-kernel-n-bug-handling17:01
JFonothing to report today17:01
JFo..17:01
bjf[TOPIC] Status: General Natty (apw)17:01
MootBotNew Topic:  Status: General Natty (apw)17:01
apwThe natty kernel is now at v2.6.38-6.33 (v2.6.38-rc8 based).  We are currently concentrating on bug squashing for Natty.  One area of concern is an interaction between vesafb and drmfb during boot, in some cases we are triggering gpu hangs; we are looking at vesafb load to slightly later in boot when drm has not shown up.  We are expecting v2.6.38 final next week.17:01
apw..17:01
bjf[TOPIC] Status: Ecryptfs (jj)17:01
MootBotNew Topic:  Status: Ecryptfs (jj)17:01
jjohansenpostponed for natty.  xattr version still waiting for review, hope to get the version with names stored in the ecryptfs header out today17:02
jjohansen..17:02
bjf[TOPIC] Status: Stable Kernel Team (sconklin / bjf)17:02
MootBotNew Topic:  Status: Stable Kernel Team (sconklin / bjf)17:02
sconklin||17:02
sconklin|| We have completed verification phase for the current cycle, and entered17:02
sconklin|| the testing phase: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/StableReleaseCadence17:02
sconklin||17:02
sconklin..17:02
bjf[TOPIC] Security & bugfix kernels - Maverick/Lucid/Karmic/Hardy/Dapper (sconklin / bjf)17:02
MootBotNew Topic:  Security & bugfix kernels - Maverick/Lucid/Karmic/Hardy/Dapper (sconklin / bjf)17:02
sconklin||17:02
sconklin|| We have completed verification phase for the current cycle, and entered17:02
sconklin|| the testing phase: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/StableReleaseCadence17:02
sconklin||17:02
apw?17:03
tgardnerbeer tard....17:03
sconklin|| Package                                    || Upd/Sec              || Proposed             ||  TiP || Verified ||17:03
sconklin||                                            ||                      ||                      ||      ||          ||17:03
sconklin|| dapper   linux-source-2.6.15               || 2.6.15-55.93         || 2.6.15-57.94         ||    0 ||        0 ||17:03
sconklin|| ---      linux-meta                        || 2.6.15.56            || 2.6.15.57            ||    0 ||        0 ||17:03
sconklin|| ---      linux-backports-modules-2.6.15    || 2.6.15-55.13         || 2.6.15-57.15         ||    0 ||        0 ||17:03
sconklin||                                            ||                      ||                      ||      ||          ||17:03
sconklin|| hardy    linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24   || 2.6.24.18-28.7       ||                      ||      ||          ||17:03
sconklin|| ---      linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24       || 2.6.24-28.47         ||                      ||      ||          ||17:03
sconklin|| ---      linux-meta                        || 2.6.24.28.30         || 2.6.24.29.31         ||    0 ||        0 ||17:03
sconklin|| ---      linux                             || 2.6.24-28.86         || 2.6.24-29.87         ||    1 ||        1 ||17:03
sconklin||                                            ||                      ||                      ||      ||          ||17:03
sconklin|| karmic   linux-ec2                         || 2.6.31-307.27        || 2.6.31-308.28        ||    0 ||        0 ||17:03
sconklin|| ---      linux-ports-meta                  || 2.6.31.22.18         || 2.6.31.23.19         ||    0 ||        0 ||17:03
sconklin|| ---      linux-mvl-dove                    || 2.6.31-214.32        ||                      ||      ||          ||17:03
sconklin|| ---      linux-meta-mvl-dove               || 2.6.31.214.13        ||                      ||      ||          ||17:03
sconklin|| ---      linux                             || 2.6.31-22.73         || 2.6.31-23.74         ||    0 ||        0 ||17:03
sconklin|| ---      linux-fsl-imx51                   || 2.6.31-112.30        ||                      ||      ||          ||17:03
sconklin|| ---      linux-meta-fsl-imx51              || 2.6.31.112.10        ||                      ||      ||          ||17:03
sconklin|| ---      linux-backports-modules-2.6.31    || 2.6.31-22.24         || 2.6.31-23.25         ||    0 ||        0 ||17:03
sconklin|| ---      linux-meta                        || 2.6.31.22.35         || 2.6.31.23.36         ||    0 ||        0 ||17:04
sconklin|| ---      linux-meta-ec2                    || 2.6.31.307.6         || 2.6.31.308.7         ||    0 ||        0 ||17:04
sconklin||                                            ||                      ||                      ||      ||          ||17:04
sconklin|| lucid    linux-ec2                         || 2.6.32-314.27        || 2.6.32-314.27        ||    3 ||        3 ||17:04
sconklin|| ---      linux-meta-mvl-dove               || 2.6.32.209.12        || 2.6.32.214.15        ||    0 ||        0 ||17:04
sconklin|| ---      linux-ports-meta                  || 2.6.32.29.22         || 2.6.32.30.23         ||    0 ||        0 ||17:04
sconklin|| ---      linux-mvl-dove                    || 2.6.32-211.27        || 2.6.32-214.30        ||   20 ||       20 ||17:04
sconklin|| ---      linux-meta-lts-backport-maverick  || 2.6.35.25.36         ||                      ||      ||          ||17:04
sconklin|| ---      linux-lts-backport-maverick       || 2.6.35-25.44~lucid1  ||                      ||      ||          ||17:04
sconklin|| ---      linux-backports-modules-2.6.32    || 2.6.32-29.28         || 2.6.32-30.29         ||    0 ||        0 ||17:04
sconklin|| ---      linux                             || 2.6.32-29.58         || 2.6.32-30.59         ||    2 ||        2 ||17:04
sconklin|| ---      linux-fsl-imx51                   || 2.6.31-608.22        ||                      ||      ||          ||17:04
sconklin|| ---      linux-meta-fsl-imx51              || 2.6.31.608.9         ||                      ||      ||          ||17:04
sconklin|| ---      linux-meta                        || 2.6.32.29.35         || 2.6.32.30.36         ||    0 ||        0 ||17:04
sconklin|| ---      linux-meta-ec2                    || 2.6.32.314.15        || 2.6.32.314.15        ||    0 ||        0 ||17:04
sconklin||                                            ||                      ||                      ||      ||          ||17:04
sconklin|| maverick linux-meta-ti-omap4               || 2.6.35.903.6         ||                      ||      ||          ||17:04
sconklin|| ---      linux-ports-meta                  || 2.6.35.27.21         || 2.6.35.28.21         ||    0 ||        0 ||17:04
sconklin|| ---      linux-mvl-dove                    ||                      || 2.6.32-414.30        ||    9 ||        9 ||17:04
sconklin|| ---      linux-meta-mvl-dove               ||                      || 2.6.32.414.4         ||    0 ||        0 ||17:04
sconklin|| ---      linux-firmware                    || 1.38.4               || 1.38.5               ||    1 ||        1 ||17:04
sconklin|| ---      linux                             || 2.6.35-27.48         || 2.6.35-28.49         ||    4 ||        4 ||17:04
sconklin|| ---      linux-backports-modules-2.6.35    || 2.6.35-27.18         || 2.6.35-28.19         ||    0 ||        0 ||17:04
sconklin|| ---      linux-ti-omap4                    || 2.6.35-903.21        ||                      ||      ||          ||17:04
sconklin|| ---      linux-meta                        || 2.6.35.27.35         || 2.6.35.28.36         ||    0 ||        0 ||17:04
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sconklin..17:04
bjf[TOPIC] Status: HW Cert. Team  (ara)17:04
MootBotNew Topic:  Status: HW Cert. Team  (ara)17:04
arahello!17:04
araIn the HW certification team, we will start testing the -proposed kernels for Maverick and Lucid tomorrow or early Thursday. We expect to finish testing no later than March 16th (probably a lot earlier!)17:05
ara..17:05
bjf[TOPIC] Incoming Bugs: Regressions (JFo)17:05
MootBotNew Topic:  Incoming Bugs: Regressions (JFo)17:05
JFoIncoming Bugs17:05
JFo 225 Natty Bugs (up 43)17:05
JFo 1200 Maverick Bugs (up 17)17:05
JFo 1031 Lucid Bugs (up 6)17:05
JFoCurrent regression stats (broken down by release):17:05
JFo==== regression-update ====17:05
JFo  * 40 maverick bugs (no change)17:05
JFo  * 76 lucid bugs (up 1)17:05
JFo  * 7 karmic bugs (no change)17:05
JFo  * 0 hardy bugs (no change)17:05
JFo==== regression-release ====17:05
JFo  * 94 natty bugs (up 21)17:05
JFo  * 236 maverick bugs (down 1)17:05
JFo  * 221 lucid bugs (up 4)17:05
JFo  * 38 karmic bugs (no change)17:05
JFo  * 2 hardy bugs (no change)17:05
JFo==== regression-proposed ====17:05
JFo  * 1 natty bugs (up 1)17:06
JFo  * 0 maverick bugs (no change)17:06
JFo  * 0 lucid bugs (no change)17:06
JFo  * 0 karmic bug (no change)17:06
JFo..17:06
bjf[TOPIC] Incoming Bugs: Bug day report (JFo)17:06
MootBotNew Topic:  Incoming Bugs: Bug day report (JFo)17:06
JFoToday is the bug day. We are covering bugs in the New status.17:06
JFo..17:06
bjf[TOPIC] Triage Status (JFo)17:06
MootBotNew Topic:  Triage Status (JFo)17:06
JFonothing to report.17:06
JFo..17:06
bjf[TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions: Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)17:06
MootBotNew Topic:  Open Discussion or Questions: Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)17:06
bjfthanks everyone17:07
bjf#endmeeting17:07
MootBotMeeting finished at 11:07.17:07
JFothanks bjf17:07
JFonow that's gotta be a record17:07
ckingblink and you miss it17:07
apwi blame steve17:07
JFoheh17:07
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ppisatiNafallo:17:25
ppisatiops17:25
jdstrando/18:00
jjohansen\o18:00
micahgo/18:01
sbeattie\o18:01
jdstrandwe'll wait a couple more minutes for the other guys18:02
jdstrandalright, well let's get started18:05
jdstrand#startmeeting18:05
MootBotMeeting started at 12:05. The chair is jdstrand.18:05
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jdstrandThe meeting agenda can be found at:18:05
jdstrand[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting18:05
MootBotLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting18:05
jdstrand[TOPIC] Review of any previous action items18:05
MootBotNew Topic:  Review of any previous action items18:05
jdstrandthere is one from last week: sbeattie to update SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures and/or QRT for openjdk tarball generation, build instructions, etc18:06
sbeattiejdstrand: bah, didn't get to it. sorry.18:06
jdstrandno worries. aiui, you are still embroiled in that anyway :)18:06
sbeattieyes18:06
jdstrandsbeattie: perhaps just do it after the publication. that way you'll have everything18:08
sbeattiejdstrand: sure.18:08
jdstrand[TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report18:08
MootBotNew Topic:  Weekly stand-up report18:08
jdstrandI'll go first18:08
jdstrandI am on triage this week18:08
jdstrandI think I am going to look at the schroot/dbus issue. I haven't looked at it at all yet, but need it for an upload18:09
jdstrandI hope to fix a couple things with ufw18:09
jdstrand(minor)18:09
jdstrandand do some QRT updates for apparmor and libvirt18:09
jdstrandI still would like to investigate changes auditing, since I didn't get to it last week18:09
jdstrandbeyond that, I'd also like to pick up an update18:10
jdstrand(sounds like a busy week)18:10
jdstrand:)18:10
jdstrandkees: you're up18:10
keesokay, am on community this week18:10
keesI've been poking around with qrt updates18:10
keesmostly for subtle kernel features, and chasing corner-cases that hggdh keeps finding. :)18:11
* sbeattie hugs hggdh 18:11
keesthis week I'm going to try to finish my copy_*_user audit in the kernel so I can move on to other areas to audit18:11
keesthat's it for now18:11
jdstrandkees: thanks18:12
jdstrandmdeslaur: you're up18:12
* hggdh is a master in finding weird situations...18:12
* kees hugs hggdh18:12
mdeslaurI'm in the happy place this week18:12
mdeslaurI published tiff and avahi updates yesterday18:13
mdeslaurand finally did a gnome-screensaver SRU18:13
mdeslaurI'll be off for a week starting tomorrow, so today I've been doing some triage18:13
mdeslaurthat's it from me!18:13
mdeslaursbeattie: you're next18:14
highvoltageyay happy places18:14
sbeattiehehe18:14
mdeslaur:)18:14
sbeattieI'm also in the happy place this week.18:14
sbeattieLast week I released an update for openjdk/non-arm18:14
sbeattieI'm still working on openjdk/arm packages, maverick built, and lucid is still building.18:15
sbeattiefor lucid, I'll be pushing a no-change-rebuild of binutils and gcj-4.4 from lucid-updates along with it.18:15
sbeattiethey're in the security-proposed ppa.18:16
sbeattieI'm still poking at karmic.18:16
sbeattiethough I may release the lucid and maverick packages while sorting out karmic18:16
sbeattieapparmor: I pushed a 2.5.2 official release tarball to launchpad yesterday.18:17
jdstrandnice18:17
sbeattieneed to do some wiki work and announce it.18:17
sbeattieotherwise, I'll try to pick up another update this week.18:18
sbeattieThat's it for me.18:18
jdstrandsbeattie: thanks18:18
jdstrandmicahg: you're up18:18
* micahg is perpetually in the happy place18:19
sbeattiemicahg: \o/18:19
jdstrandthat will change soon, not to worry :)18:19
micahgI have a chromium update this week18:19
micahgI'm going to start on the webkit update for karmic-maverick18:19
* jdstrand hugs micahg 18:19
* micahg hugs jdstrand18:20
mdeslaur\o/18:20
micahgI think that's enough for me :)18:20
jdstrandmicahg: thanks18:20
jdstrand[TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions18:20
MootBotNew Topic:  Miscellaneous and Questions18:20
jdstrandcongratulations to micahg for getting his first (and second) USNs out18:20
jdstrandbeyond that, I don't have anything18:21
jdstrandjjohansen: is there anything you'd like to bring up?18:21
jjohansenjdstrand: /me still needs to coord with sbeattie for the 2.6 release18:22
jjohansenwe already have some bugs against it18:22
* jdstrand nods18:22
sbeattiejjohansen: right, nice finds.18:22
jjohansenother than that, nothing I can think of18:22
jdstranddoes anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?18:23
sbeattiedo we want an apparmor meeting tomorrow?18:23
jjohansensbeattie: blame chromium18:23
jjohansenhrmm is there anything to discuss at this point?18:23
jdstrandI don't personally have anything18:23
sbeattiejjohansen: don't think so, but I thought I'd ask.18:23
* sbeattie still needs to read jjohansen's dfa posts18:24
* jjohansen could discuss vague ideas about integrating some cgroups control into profile resource control but I don't think a meetings the right place for that18:24
jjohansenor sbeattie could just wait for the longer version tech paper, because I have just moved forward at this point18:25
* kees enjoyed the dfa posts; I just don't have much to say about them. :)18:25
sbeattieheh18:25
jjohansenits kernel vars for n+118:25
* jjohansen is going to hold off on hfa, backrefs and counting constraints and try to get the rest done18:26
jdstrandcool18:26
* jdstrand looks forward to @{pid} :)18:27
* jjohansen looks forward to a faster compiler18:27
jdstrandheh18:28
jdstrandalright, thanks everyone!18:28
jdstrand#endmeeting18:28
MootBotMeeting finished at 12:28.18:28
sbeattiethanks!18:29
micahgthanks jdstrand18:29
jdstrandsure :)18:29
mdeslaurthanks jdstrand18:31
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NRWlionhey guys23:39
MrChrisDruifHai NRWlion :)23:45
jledbetterSalutations23:47
NRWlionMrChrisDruif, you again ;)23:48
NRWlionsatue jledbetter23:48
MrChrisDruifYeah, you'll find me everywhere :P23:48
NRWlionMrChrisDruif, that sounds like a life threatening ;)23:48
MrChrisDruifMeh....more in a friendly way :)23:49
cprofitt#startmeeting23:59
MootBotMeeting started at 17:59. The chair is cprofitt.23:59
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cprofittWelcome to the Beginners Team meeting23:59

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