[00:34] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12668190 has a coloured map of the altitude change from the quake [02:57] oneiric? [02:57] really? [02:57] what was he smoking [02:57] I wanted "orsum octopus" [03:00] thumper: what's great is having to spell oneiric correctly in every changelog for package uploads :) [03:00] * thumper thinks "one iric" [03:00] close to "one eric" [03:01] it was bad enough seeing people talk about 'drapper' all the time [03:03] ajmitch_: I'm not sure I ever type the distro name myself in the changelog... [03:04] ojwb: it's much better for debian of course [03:04] dch probably does the right thing, but enough people don't use that [03:05] ojwb: I was going to say that debian solves the release naming problem by not having releases, but debian has been getting much better [03:05] well, I create packages for PPAs at least [03:06] and yes, dch can be made smart about it [03:06] even with debian, packages are generally uploaded to unstable [03:11] snail: despite what people seem to think, the longest gap between debian releases was less than 3 years [03:12] it's basically settled down to around 2 recently, which is the same as the LTS schedule [03:12] ojwb: yes, there's a nice graph on the wikipedia page. [03:13] around here, the six monthly release cycle goes down well because people understand fixed schedules [03:14] it's nice for some uses, and painful for others [03:15] ojwb: indeed [18:34] morning [19:04] evening :-) [19:06] morning [19:06] where are you atm? [19:21] Tonight I'm in Koblenz. [19:22] Tomorrow night Frankfurt, before I fly home. [19:22] * karora managed to get a free booth for DAViCal at CeBIT. [19:27] nice [19:27] how is the android app coming along? [19:33] mornin [19:35] ibeardslee: It's good. I put it in the market just before I left, and I have done a few updates since then. [19:35] At CeBIT I was installing it manually on the phone of anyone who asked. [19:35] * ajmitch_ should probably get a decent phone sometime soon [19:36] * ibeardslee has an android now [19:37] still trying to migrate the iphone 'config' and data to it [19:38] * ajmitch_ has an antique that barely works [19:38] not sure which android phone would be best [19:39] * ibeardslee got a IDEOS off trademe as a 1/2 step towards the Samsung Galaxy S II [19:39] will need to sell the iphone and mac mini [19:42] mutter mutter tells you about the $0.30 GST when you go pay for it ;) [19:42] ajmitch_: Essentially it comes down to budget. If you're cheap, get the Huawei Ideos. If you have a little more money get the smaller Samsung. If price is no object get the Galaxy S, or the new Galaxy Pro (with a keyboard). [19:43] I have a Nexus One and it still rocks. I've been playing with a few keyboard phones and I think I'm now happier without one, but the Nexus S and the HTC Desire Z seem to do it for a lot of people as well. [19:44] * karora got the Ideos for his son. [19:44] Though $SON doesn't get much use out of it 'cause Dad's always borrowing it for testing :-) [19:44] * ajmitch_ might look around & see if he can find one [19:45] I got it for $279 at Christmas, with a $150 credit on 2 degrees. [19:46] ajmitch_: I got mine for <>$160 off trademe .. no sim [19:46] Price equivalence, huh :-) [19:47] It's a little underpowered, and the screen is a little small, but by and large it works well. [19:47] yeah, anything would work better than what I currently have :) [19:48] And it does have a capacitive touch - much nicer to use than the crappy vodafone cheap-ass one. [19:48] I do have 'fun' with the onscreen keyboard [19:48] I've got used to it on the Nexus One, but the Ideos is just that smidgin slower that makes it harder to use. [19:49] karora: would be nice to have the new server setup and take you back to the settings already entered if the setup fails [19:51] $299 for the ideos from 2degreesmobile.co.nz [19:53] http://www.trademe.co.nz/browse/searchresults.aspx?sort_order=&searchType=0344-9113-&searchString=ideos+u8150&x=0&y=0&searchregion=100&type=Search&redirectFromAll=False&generalSearch_keypresses=5&generalSearch_suggested=11&%3FsupprR=1&z=12 [19:53] a bit more variety of price if you already have an vodafone or 2 degress sim [19:53] yeah [19:54] just a prepaid vodafone SIM === ajmitch_ is now known as ajmitch [20:06] ibeardslee: In aCal? Yeah, the configuration stuff does have to change. [20:08] karora: yeah .. 4th time entering the data to get a connection is starting to wear a bit thin ;) [20:09] "Server did not provide a principal path" ? [20:10] ibeardslee: You can long-press on a working one to save an XML file onto your SDCard. [20:11] It will look in the /sdcard/acal folder for such saved configs. [20:11] ... which is also where it saves them :-) [20:12] oh that'll be handy! [20:17] hmm maybe I need a saved on first .. that folder doesn't exist [20:17] s/on/one/ [20:24] karora: do you have sample XML file somewhere? [20:30] Well, just do all of the settings and save one. [20:31] It should create the folder the first time you save one. [20:33] it doen't seem to save one unless it finds a valid connection [21:27] I have a Nexus One too, works well. Running 2.3 since a few days back. [21:33] hads: still getting in some of that pc engines stock this week? [21:36] ajmitch: It has shipped out from Switzerland on Monday, it might not make it through customs until next week though - hard to say. [21:36] ok [21:36] I'll ping you when it's clearing. [21:36] I should probably order the dsl modem today anyway [22:41] morning [22:47] Morning [22:48] hmm, both the houses next to us are going on the market [22:48] * ojwb wonders what he did [22:56] ojwb: it was probably the late-night parties [22:57] but i was very tolerant of those