[03:14] <grantbow> Vallejo Hour is up!
[03:17] <akk> \o/
[03:17] <pleia2> woo, have fun :)
[03:17] <jamiedmattingly> woo hoo
[03:18] <grantbow> talking about Oncelots
[03:19] <pleia2> my stuffed animal narwhal is in the mail, fortunately ocelots are easier to find
[03:20] <jamiedmattingly> so what is an ocelot?
[03:21] <jamiedmattingly> do you have a stuffed animal for every version pleia2?
[03:21] <pleia2> a spotted wild cat
[03:22] <pleia2> jamiedmattingly: no, I casually have a bunch of them (I really like stuffed animals), started making sure I had an animal for each release with karmic
[03:22] <grantbow> for those following along http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/646 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocelot
[03:23] <akk> Is it really going to be an ocelot? What's the adjective?
[03:23] <grantbow> oneric
[03:23] <pleia2> oneiric
[03:23] <pleia2> means "dreamy" :)
[03:24] <akk> Oh, I saw that earlier and thought it was a joke.
[03:25]  * grantbow will nlearn to spell them soon
[03:25] <grantbow> lol, learn
[03:25] <pleia2> grantbow: it's going to be another feisty!
[03:26] <pleia2> sooo many spelling it as fiesty
[03:26] <akk> onerous ocelot
[03:26] <pleia2> I had to look up how to pronounce oneiric
[03:26] <pleia2> o-ni-rick
[03:27] <akk> emphasis on which syllable?
[03:27] <pleia2> first i
[03:27] <akk> wow, so it is like onerous
[03:27] <pleia2> yeah
[03:31] <grantbow> haha
[03:36] <jamiedmattingly> or ornery
[03:37] <jamiedmattingly>  my mamaw used to call me that
[03:37] <akk> ornery ocelot would be a great name
[03:38] <jamiedmattingly> can we petition to change it :)
[03:38] <grantbow> let me find the url to suggest names...
[04:20] <grantbow> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[04:20] <grantbow> Jamie and I had fun. nobody else showed this time.  We'll see how it goes.
[04:21] <akk> Two can be a good time.
[04:27] <pleia2> fun is the important part :) there was even one here in SF where only two of us showed up
[04:27] <pleia2> if I only I show up I still have wifi, so I can work on ubuntu-things, success!
[16:43] <MarkDude> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california
[16:43] <MarkDude> So that is a complete list of UH in Cali?
[16:44]  * MarkDude is planning a Lindependence Hour- and wants to make sure it does not happen the same day as other events
[16:58] <iheartubuntu> Happy International Womens Day to all women :)
[16:58] <MarkDude> +1
[16:59] <MarkDude> Here is to people making the SAME amount of money- without regard to their plumbing
[17:00] <MarkDude> I mean - new millennial age- earing power should be based on skill- not antiquated notions
[17:00]  * iheartubuntu needs a bigger screen to see IRC, browser and gwibber all at once :)
[17:00] <MarkDude> Gwibber rocks !
[17:00] <MarkDude> You like it iheartubuntu ?
[17:00] <iheartubuntu> Yah, Im on the Twitter bandwagon now. I just replied to you on it :)
[17:01] <MarkDude> Cool ;)
[17:01] <MarkDude> Good point
[17:01] <iheartubuntu> ha - twitter is fun
[17:02] <iheartubuntu> im having some DNS problems right now with my website (growing pains)
[17:02]  * MarkDude used it a few times a week while repping for a company
[17:02] <iheartubuntu> Im switching from blogspot to my own servers
[17:02]  * MarkDude uses it once a month for personal stuff
[17:02] <MarkDude> Good deal-
[17:02]  * MarkDude started some of the seeds already- have you started the Gooseberries?
[17:03]  * MarkDude just got 1 that was larger than a marble- the largest so far
[17:03] <iheartubuntu> I put a couple in small seed starter containers
[17:03] <iheartubuntu> Im going to start them indoors first
[17:03] <iheartubuntu> although weather is great here
[17:06] <akk> The one you gave me is still doing well ... it has 3 berries on it now (plus one that fell off, and I should have planted it, but I couldn't resist, I ate it! :)
[17:07] <iheartubuntu> International Womens Day is huge in Russia and other parts of Europe. You'll see men running around all carrying HUGE bundles of flowers around the city to give to their loved ones
[17:08]  * iheartubuntu wonders if anyone will notice if I swap my 8:5 monitor with a HD widescreen from another office here :)
[17:09]  * iheartubuntu goes to check video connections now!
[17:10] <iheartubuntu> does launchpad have a section showing updated software? updated PPAs? Im looking to find some source of updated ubuntu software
[17:17] <jdeslip> iheartubuntu: what about the update manager?
[17:17] <iheartubuntu> when programs get updated?
[17:18] <iheartubuntu> I would think there is some other source maybe on the web someplace
[17:18] <MarkDude> There is iheartubuntu
[17:19] <MarkDude> It can have some issues tho- Ubuntu is meant to be stable- using older versions helsp here
[17:19] <akk> There are backports repositories you could monitor.
[17:20] <akk> But that might not help if you're already running a cutting-edge ubuntu.
[17:20] <MarkDude> iheartubuntu, what are you looking for?
[17:20] <akk> Plus a gazillion small repos for specific software, and I don't think there's anything that tries to list those comprehensively.
[17:22] <MarkDude> iheartubuntu, this is maybe the best http://www.getdeb.net/welcome/
[17:22] <MarkDude> maybe
[17:22] <MarkDude> depending on WHAT you want
[17:45] <nhaines> iheartubuntu: I think we should probably start with: "What are you trying to accomplish?"
[17:46] <nhaines> It sounded like you just wanted a way to know when an Ubuntu release receives updates.  The maverick-updates mailing list is probably best for that.
[17:47] <nhaines> But if you're looking for packaged software that's newer than what Ubuntu ships with, that's entirely different and we can help there too.  :)
[17:53] <iheartubuntu> brb unplugging older monitor for newer widescreen :) shhhhh!!!
[18:00] <iheartubuntu> WOW huge monitor! My eyes will relax now
[18:06] <iheartubuntu> now i have more screen space than i know what to do with
[18:06] <iheartubuntu> but i LIKE it!
[18:11] <iheartubuntu> DarkwingDuck can we run Kubuntu Apps in gnome?
[18:11] <iheartubuntu> so i have a friend doing bitcoin. nhaines i think you said youve heard of it
[18:12] <iheartubuntu> he is using GPU to mine the coins
[18:12] <iheartubuntu> (wow my monitor is wider than my keyboard - weird!)
[18:13] <iheartubuntu> so he wants to hook up like 3 or 4 video cards to mine more coins
[18:13] <iheartubuntu> supposedly he will pull in serious coinage
[18:16] <iheartubuntu> apparently i am finding out, no monitor will ever be big enough :)
[18:17] <nhaines> iheartubuntu: yes, GNOME and KDE apps run great in the other desktop environment.
[18:18] <nhaines> iheartubuntu: and yes, I set everything to mine but I eventually determined it wasn't worth it and I should just beg for donations or sell things if I wanted bitcoins.  :)
[18:18] <iheartubuntu> haha
[18:18] <nhaines> It'd take a year for me to have a 80% chance of getting 50 bitcoins.
[18:19] <nhaines> And that's running 24/7.
[18:19] <iheartubuntu> this friend of mine thinks he can pull in $50 a day with a good enough setup (multi-core with expensive video cards)
[18:19] <iheartubuntu> he gets 50 coins in just a couple days
[18:20] <nhaines> It's all a bit random.
[18:20] <iheartubuntu> so he found out that you need GPU not just CPU
[18:20] <iheartubuntu> for any of you technically endowed. which im not (technically endowed)
[18:20] <iheartubuntu> and then he joined some team of miners which helps also
[18:21] <iheartubuntu> not just one computer
[18:21] <nhaines> Yes, when I use both I'm still only pulling 5800 kilohashes/s.
[18:22] <iheartubuntu> OMG he is doing like 100,000 kilohashes/s
[18:23] <iheartubuntu> i was doing 2600 before i gave up
[18:23] <iheartubuntu> he thinks he can quadruple that with better video cards and use more GPU power
[18:24] <iheartubuntu> 50 bucks a day is almost $20k a year. not bad for doing nothing
[18:27] <jdeslip> I there actually a way to convert it into $?
[18:27] <iheartubuntu> there are definitely things you can buy on the net with bitcoin
[18:28] <iheartubuntu> and people are converting them to paypal
[18:28] <iheartubuntu> so yes for sure
[18:32] <iheartubuntu> exchange bitcoins here http://mtgox.com/
[18:32] <iheartubuntu> its pricey. you might pay $2000 for a system that can mine like 5 bitcoins a day
[18:33] <iheartubuntu> so it would take a year to pay for itself
[18:33] <nhaines> Except that the difficulty increases every 40 days.
[18:33] <iheartubuntu> ohh it does?
[18:33] <nhaines> And so many people are mining that the difficulty has been increasing exponentially.
[18:34] <iheartubuntu> and i read someplace theres only so many bitcoins?
[18:34] <nhaines> Yes, the system is designed to generate no more than x many bitcoins.
[18:34]  * iheartubuntu back to my blog then :)
[18:36] <nhaines> iheartubuntu: you could accept donations in bitcoins.  :)
[18:36]  * nhaines only has 0.05 BTC.
[18:37] <iheartubuntu> if there are only X bitcoins, wont the valuer of the bitcoin eventually rise?
[18:37] <iheartubuntu> right now its 1 bt  = 1 USD
[18:39]  * iheartubuntu has .02 btc (and they were given to me)
[18:42] <iheartubuntu> so what if you mine 50 bitcoins a day, or even a week and then one day a bitcoin will be worth $10 USD?
[18:49] <nhaines> Well, the bitcoins are only worth what people will pay for them.  So it's going to be more predicated on whether or not there are goods and services available for purchase with bitcoin.
[18:55] <MarkDude> iheartubuntu, there are a few places that will take them- you can give them to Leo - if you like TWIT
[18:55] <iheartubuntu> laporte?
[19:25] <jamiedmattingly> whyat is bitcoin??
[19:25] <iheartubuntu> an electronic form of currency
[19:25] <jamiedmattingly> how is it 'earned' ?
[19:26] <jamiedmattingly> whats it for?
[19:27] <nhaines> jamiedmattingly: it's earned by selling or providing a service in exchange for bitcoin.
[19:27] <nhaines> It's for paying for things.
[19:28] <jamiedmattingly> thanks
[19:31] <MarkDude> it is an Anon way to do things also
[19:31] <nhaines> jamiedmattingly: the currency is based on encrypted data, and is still being generated.  At the moment, in exchange for contributing to generating bitcoins, if your computer completes a block first you are awarded coins.
[19:31] <MarkDude> read: non-traceable
[19:32] <nhaines> But unless you're mining, probably with a group of others (haven't done the math on that one), it's probably best to just start trading good and services.
[19:32] <nhaines> But the exchange value of bitcoin has been skyrocketing, so it may be a good investment.  It's definitely an interesting experiment.
[19:33] <MarkDude> http://www.bitcoin.org/smf/index.php?topic=3929.0
[19:33] <iheartubuntu> as markdude says... non traceable :)
[19:33] <MarkDude> nhaines, is correct - the adoption rate will take a bit
[19:33] <iheartubuntu> the bitcoin client has a wallet, and you can easily send bitcoins as payment to someone for whatever you are trading for
[19:34] <MarkDude> Yep. Dont forget the good geek street cred
[19:35] <iheartubuntu> ha
[19:35] <MarkDude> Best reason, IMHO
[19:35]  * iheartubuntu is trying empathy for chat today
[19:36] <MarkDude> Happy with it?
[19:36] <iheartubuntu> not bad
[19:36] <iheartubuntu> its more integrated into the OS than pidgin is now
[19:37] <MarkDude> So unless I am mistaken http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california  <<< that is the canonical list of ALL the UH taking place in this state?
[19:37] <MarkDude> Cool- do you think non-geeks would be happy with it?
[19:38] <MarkDude> pidgin was tooo funky last time I tried to get someone using that
[19:38] <nhaines> MarkDude: no, only the ones managed by the LoCo.
[19:38] <MarkDude> Is there another list?
[19:38]  * MarkDude is planning an hour- and want to make sure it is a differing day
[19:39] <nhaines> I understand that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour is the canonical list.
[19:40] <MarkDude> Cool - ty nhaines
[19:42] <jamiedmattingly> first monday of the month is vallejo's ubuntu hour
[19:43] <jamiedmattingly> last night was first one
[19:43] <iheartubuntu> im having a problem with empathy in that  new IMs are not flashing at me. a pop up will appear in the indicator applet, but once its gone, i have no idea someone texted me (my IMS are set to open in same window, not separate)
[19:44] <iheartubuntu> with pidgin it flashes at me and i know whats going on.
[19:44] <iheartubuntu> i like the blurps around the text here in empathy though
[19:44] <iheartubuntu> looks cool
[19:44] <nhaines> iheartubuntu: the Messaging Menu should turn green, I think.
[19:45] <iheartubuntu> i would think, but mine doesnt
[19:45] <iheartubuntu> i had several messages from people i did not know about until i click the icon
[19:45] <iheartubuntu> i wonder if its becuase i have gmail notifier running
[19:46] <MarkDude> Cool jamiedmattingly have you let any of the MLs know- I know a few people in your area have wanted events to go to
[19:47]  * MarkDude is offering to mail them :)
[19:47] <iheartubuntu> possible bug if its not turning green
[19:47] <jamiedmattingly> please do so thanks MarkDude
[19:47] <MarkDude> Cool - where is the link?
[19:48] <jamiedmattingly> pleia2,  helped me post it on loco page but i haven't done uch else with it
[19:48] <jamiedmattingly> link?
[19:48] <MarkDude> Give me a sec
[19:49] <MarkDude> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/686/detail/
[19:49] <MarkDude> But not on http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california
[19:49] <MarkDude> So 4 places UH are listed
[19:50] <pleia2> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california only shows upcoming ones, you have to click on "past events" for old ones
[19:51] <pleia2> and it only lists 5 upcoming ones, you need to select "all events" for more
[19:51] <MarkDude> Ah- makes sense
[19:51] <pleia2> (there are only 5 at the moment)
[19:51] <MarkDude> jamiedmattingly, so we need a new one listed
[19:51] <jamiedmattingly> ok ill put next one up thanks MarkDude
[20:12] <iheartubuntu> what constitutes karma on launchpad? mine is dropping considerably :)
[20:27] <jdeslip> I think you get karma for submitting bugs etc...
[20:28] <jdeslip> I wouldn't worry about it, karma is worthless ;)
[20:31] <MarkDude> lol
[20:31] <MarkDude> says a dude that lives in Berkeley :)
[20:32] <MarkDude> Careful Jack the Hippies might take offense
[20:32]  * MarkDude is KIDDING here
[20:32] <MarkDude> That would be in the joking font- if there were one
[20:33] <MarkDude> iheartubuntu, He is correct- there is not much usefulness to it
[20:33] <MarkDude> You get it for helping others
[20:45] <jdeslip> set xrange [7:9]
[20:45] <jdeslip> I wouldn't worry about it, karma is worthless ;)
[20:45] <jdeslip> oh dear... it is nothing bad irc day...
[20:45] <jdeslip> another :(
[20:45]  * jdeslip hangs head in shame
[21:04] <iheartubuntu> karma
[21:04] <iheartubuntu> ;)
[21:32] <iheartubuntu> my hosting company uses ubuntu :)
[21:33] <iheartubuntu> ohh wow, no more blogspot for me!
[21:33] <iheartubuntu> http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2011/03/join-us-on-twitter.html
[21:33] <iheartubuntu> finally