[02:56] I think I like coding during night because nobody's disturbing me. That's much more comfortable. [02:56] No phone calls, no gtalk chats, no nothing. [03:04] karni: ping [03:04] >:) [03:04] duanedesign: hey! [03:04] heheheh [03:04] it's ok ;) [03:04] :D [03:04] it's just music, code, and.. not so evil duanedesign [03:04] karni: i was aobut to catch a few zzzz [03:04] :) [03:05] karni: yeah i am having trouble getting used to ircclouc [03:05] irccloud* [03:05] karni: i have used irssi for so long [03:05] what do you mean :)? oh. it's another irc client? [03:05] oh yeah [03:05] oh, yeah. That is the evilduanedesign [03:06] I see heheh :) [03:06] this is me on my irssi/screen setup on my VPS. evilduanedesign is me when I am using irccloud.com, or my phone [03:07] it has a neat interface and if i did not have a VPS or server I would really consider using it all the time [03:07] oh, it looks kinda nice [03:08] it has the advantage of being always on [03:08] so you get the scrollback like you do with ruuning irssi in GNU Screen [03:08] oh this is cool, like screen! [03:08] right [03:08] * duanedesign nods [03:08] does it integrate with desktop notifications ;D ? [03:09] ahhhh [03:09] I might give it a try one day [03:09] I kinda like the raw edge and terminal-like funcitonality of screen+irssi, but this is definitely worth checking out [03:10] yeah [03:10] and irssi is very fast [03:11] as fast as you can type, indeed :) [03:11] GUI tend to, in my experience, lag a second or so [03:12] yup [03:13] gotta get back to eclipse, I'm getting more red underlines than I should [03:13] ;) [03:13] have some good sleep duanedesign! [03:13] thanks happy coding karni [03:13] thanks duanedesign ! [03:13] o. [03:14] (-.-)~zzZZ [03:26] oh god [03:26] it's after 4 am [03:26] I've just spent over 4 hours writing code in Qt.. for fun.. [03:34] kklimonda: :) [03:35] kklimonda: any eye-candy results? [03:38] I guess you just fell asleep ;] [03:38] karni: not really, it's a simple media player [03:38] to watch movies from gomtv [03:38] :) [03:39] but I have to say I've never had so much fun with C++ in my life. [03:39] It's like I've discovered it for the first time. [03:41] and I managed to break the notification, ops. [03:42] :D [03:47] triaged. [03:51] wow, I just ran out of ram.. [03:52] ok, I still have like 600M left.. but still.. [04:22] okey, time to get some sleep. night guys! [10:24] Ah, good morning, all! :D [10:34] hello all [10:41] 09:40:35 < jesterina> what's the new dos2unix called again? [10:41] 09:40:56 < idimmu> isnt it just called [10:41] 09:40:58 < idimmu> dos2unix ? [10:41] Yes :-/ [10:42] Unless you want to re-implement it in sed or something :-s [10:45] Er, wrong channel/o\ [11:32] aquarius: good morning [11:37] hi duanedesign [11:40] aquarius: I am looking for some advice on an application I am making. I realize you are awfully busy but on the off chance that you had time in the near future I thoght I would ask. [11:45] aquarius: so if you find yourself with the rare opporunity of a little free time maybe take a peak https://launchpad.net/stipple [11:47] duanedesign, I discovered that at the weekend; haven't had a chance to try it yet! [11:47] aquarius: [11:47] oops [11:50] duanedesign, I like the idea of it :) [11:51] aquarius: cool. Just kinda stuck thinking "This could be doing its job in a better fashion". Just not sure what that better way is. I thought this is where I could benefit from some advice from someone who has been down the road before [11:51] duanedesign, talk to me about the issues you're thinking about [11:52] (I don't want to say: this is how I would design such a thing, because it's not my project. But if you say, I am struggling with this problem, I am more than happy to give you my thoughts) [11:52] aquarius: my biggest concern is you currently launch the app. Click 'Sync to DB' That puts the .config files for the selected apps in Couch [11:53] aquarius: then you launch the app on Computer B. Open the app and click "Sync from DB' [11:54] ok [11:55] aquarius: I think it should probablly be a daemon? [11:56] I do not think so. [11:56] If you write a daemon which (a) runs all the time (b) requires Ubuntu One (c) monitors config files for changes (d) syncs them between machines... [11:56] then what you've done is reinvented the syncdaemon. :-) [11:56] storing the occasional attachment in desktopcouch is OK, but it's really not for storing many many files (that's what file sync is for). [11:57] * duanedesign nods [12:01] aquarius: that makes sense. might be a better idea to switch to file sync. Because some of the plugins are syncing directories. like the emacs plug in syncs your .emcs file and emacs.d directory [12:01] indeed. [12:02] if you're syncing files, using filesync is the way forward; that's what it's for :) [12:02] maybe creating a custom UDF and still having manual "back up my config"/"restore my config" (which copies them in and out of the UDF)? [12:04] aquarius: yeah, that makes sense. Thinking through i think that solves a lot of my iinitial concerns [12:05] aquarius: thank you that was very helpful. [12:10] good morning everyone [12:12] o/ [12:19] \o [14:02] me [14:02] dobey: mandel: stand up in the place where you are! [14:02] me [14:03] thisfred: it's the end of the world as we know it. [14:03] * DONE bug #723227 https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-client/use-single-notification/+merge/52147 [14:03] * DONE bug #702183 https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-control-panel/attention-seeking/+merge/52131 [14:03] * NEEDSREVIEW bug #729055 https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-client/filenames-in-notifications/+merge/52483 [14:03] * INPROGRESS bug #702172 https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-client/quota-notifications [14:03] * INPROGRESS bug #728722 https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-control-panel/dbusify [14:03] Launchpad bug 723227 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "SD creates new notifications instead of updating one (affects: 1) (heat: 283)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723227 [14:03] * TODO bug #702007 [14:03] * TODO bug #730661 [14:03] NEXT: mandel [14:03] Launchpad bug 702183 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "Syncdaemon needs to open the control panel in the background and change the launcher icon to urgent when the user exceeds their quota (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702183 [14:03] dobey: I feel fine [14:03] Launchpad bug 729055 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "File names should be shown on notifications (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/729055 [14:03] Launchpad bug 702172 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "Syncdaemon needs to send a notification when a folder shared to the user exceeds the owning user's quota (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702172 [14:03] Launchpad bug 728722 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu Natty) (and 5 other projects) "control panel should have a .service file so it can be opened through dbus (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728722 [14:03] Launchpad bug 702007 in desktopcouch (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "get_all_records does not return records with their attachments (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702007 [14:03] Launchpad bug 730661 in ubuntuone-client "progress bar does not show up in Unity or something (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730661 [14:03] DONE: bindwood reviews. ubutu_sso teting. [14:03] TODO: ubuntu_sso UI nad installer UI [14:03] BLOCKED: no, confused by twisted trial, yes [14:03] dobey: please [14:04] λ DONE: started mp3 install checking [14:04] λ TODO: bug #727558, mp3 install in banshee [14:04] λ BLCK: Need webdev help. [14:04] Launchpad bug 727558 in libubuntuone (Ubuntu Natty) (and 3 other projects) "Need to notify user when Purchased Music folder is not subscribed (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 14)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727558 [14:11] dobey, thisfred: can I have a review for https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-sso-client/run_tests_windows/+merge/52081 [14:11] mandel: sure, can I have one (or two) for https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-client/filenames-in-notifications/+merge/52483 ? [14:11] thisfred: on it [14:27] wtf keeps causing ubuntuone-syncdaemon to keep respawning when it crashes? [14:39] dobey, looks like gir from libdee to me === Chex_ is now known as Chex [14:49] gord: it's because gir1.2-unity-3.0 isn't depending on the dee gir package, from what i see, and seems to be correct from what kenvandine said [14:52] there is a warning in the libunity build about the dee namespace [14:52] dee-1.0.vapi:4.1-4.13: warning: Namespace Dee does not have a GIR namespace and version annotation [14:52] namespace Dee { [14:53] Ugh. natty-update reboots aren't making things much better lately. [14:53] which seems to be why the include isn't make it into the gir [14:53] the question i have is if installing that gir is enough [14:53] gord: or were you suggesting it is what is causing the crashing? [14:53] dobey, yup, but it seems that the gir wasn't installed here as you suggested, installing it stops the crashing [14:53] gord: it might cause the crash, but it shouldn't cause a respawn. it should just crash and burn [14:54] gord, great.. so until we can figure out why is keeping the include from getting added, i can just add a depends [14:54] kenvandine: well you had another crash, so it's probably not enough, but not sure what is :( [14:54] that seems different [14:54] maybe i should change the recommends to a conflicts [14:54] :( [14:55] kenvandine: the include needs to be specifide in the makefile probably [14:55] it is something that changed yesterday [14:55] dobey, no, that isn't the problem [14:55] dee-1.0.vapi:4.1-4.13: warning: Namespace Dee does not have a GIR namespace and version annotation [14:55] that is why it isn't getting added to the gir [14:55] kenvandine: i was looking into fixing the webkit gir similarly, but all the ones it depends on are also broken [14:55] dobey, well syncdaemon-exceptions definitely had an exception on looking up the gir for dee and it was definitely restarting constantly - thats all i know ;) [14:55] kenvandine: the vapi has nothing to do with the gir [14:55] yes it does [14:56] libunity is written in vala [14:56] it generated the gir from the vapi [14:56] the gir is generated from the vapi? [14:56] ugh [14:56] yes [14:57] so the dee gir is broken also [14:57] is libdee in C or Vala? [14:57] C [14:58] where is libdee hosted? [14:58] lp [14:58] https://code.launchpad.net/libdee [14:58] no it isn't :) [14:58] https://code.launchpad.net/dee [14:59] sigh [14:59] yes it is [14:59] :) [15:00] grmbl [15:00] dobey, it looks like the gir generation stuff can be simplified quite a bit [15:00] this was all done a while back with lots of work arounds [15:00] oh yeah [15:00] the dee gir build is nasty [15:01] yeah [15:02] this was done back when gir generation was undergoing lots of change [15:03] i'll fix that up in a few [15:03] in a meeting now [15:35] guys. you've just blown my mind. I know I've been in here and said this before, but you have so much NON. Stuff I can't even find on blogs. [15:35] I am amazed :D screw the haters, u1 rules [15:36] heh [15:41] and $2 cheaper than amazon [15:41] ive never bought digital music before, this .. doesn't feel right [15:41] where is the packaging.. where is the disc? [15:41] * lamalex shudders [15:43] hmmm but it has me logged in with my gmail account and not my u1 account which is on my canonical.com address [15:43] heh [15:43] dobey, how do I re-sign in? [15:44] I've been toying with starting a company that sells slips for digital downloads, but in LP packaging. So the millenials can have their digital music but still have some of the good parts of buying records [15:44] uhm. do you have 2 accounts? [15:44] or in 7" packaging more likely [15:44] dobey, i dont think so [15:45] actually I guess I maybe could [15:45] the canonical.com one is the one signed in according to the control panel [15:45] heh, that's why Apple did that thing with the box set junk, where you get a bunch of artwork and junk with the mp3s [15:46] ugh freaking apple. i swear i thought of it first :P [15:46] amazon also has that for some albums now too [15:46] cd packaging though, right [15:46] I'm talking LPs. Full 12" record sleeves [15:46] it's all digital, no physical anything [15:46] OH [15:46] it's like a magical tarball with a bunch of useless crap in it :) [15:47] yeah I'm talking about the physical packaging [15:47] you know, it's like open source, but you pay for it :P [15:47] anyway [15:47] a 12" record sleeve with a slip of paper inside the size of a record with yor download code on it [15:47] is your gmail address your default contact on lp? [15:47] nope [15:47] canonical [15:47] oh weird [15:48] so where are you seeing gmail being used? [15:48] in the checkout [15:49] interesting [16:01] soo if I buy this will it be associated with my account? [16:01] i dont want to pay $8 and then lose it, you know? [16:02] i am not sure [16:02] joshuahoover: ^^ do you know anything about that? [16:03] lamalex: did your account used to have the gmail address as the default at one time? [16:06] lamalex: did you see my last question? did your account used to have the gmail address as the default at one time? [16:07] joshuahoover, no I hard locked :( [16:07] my lp account had gmail as default months ago [16:08] lamalex: probably when you first signed up for a u1 account it did [16:08] so that's what got pulled into the u1 accounts db [16:08] ok [16:08] so it should be the same account [16:08] u1 shows canonical though [16:09] lamalex: what does it show on https://edge.one.ubuntu.com/account/ [16:09] on the web and in the gtk client shows canonical [16:09] which is why i'm unsure [16:10] lamalex: let me look at your account [16:26] lunch time, bbiab [16:26] Chipaca, dobey: i seem to recall a bug about this issue lamalex is experiencing but i can't find it :( [16:26] joshuahoover: 7d are keeping a copy of the account details [16:27] joshuahoover: not sure if there is an api to update we're not using, or if we need to ask them to stop caching [16:27] Chipaca: ah, ok...which is (obviously) confusing...i'll make a note to ask 7d on our call with them this week [16:29] joshuahoover: ty [16:30] lamalex: so, this is something that needs fixed (either by us or 7digital), but your purchases will be on your ubuntu one account under your canonical email address === zyga is now known as zyga-afk [16:31] joshuahoover: ah, sorry, should've said: what i just said was after i went over it all with lamalex in private :) [16:31] (just to make sure this was the case) [16:31] Chipaca: ah, ok :) [16:34] thanks guys :) [17:20] CardinalFang: ping [17:39] joshuahoover, hi [17:49] CardinalFang: hi! anyway we can get your branch approved since you incorporated the feedback from the first review? https://code.launchpad.net/~cmiller/ubuntu/lucid/desktopcouch/lp726597/+merge/52249 [17:50] joshuahoover, I'll ping the previous reviewer. I thought he'd come back by now. [17:50] CardinalFang: cool, thanks! :) [17:54] kenvandine, who should I ping for SRU reviews? [17:55] CardinalFang: you should subscribe ubuntu-sru to the bug iirc [17:56] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure [17:57] CardinalFang: hrmm, the merge is wrong though. it needs to get uploaded to lucid-proposed (which i think anyone can do), an archive admin approve it there, bugs verified, then it will get released to -updates if everything passes [17:58] CardinalFang: also, there's already a 0ubuntu3.1 in -updates i believe [17:58] Since yesterday's natty updates, ubuntuone-syncdaemon uses all my CPU and crashes and restarts constantly. [17:58] nhaines: apt-get remove gir1.2-unity-3.0 for now [18:00] dobey: that fixed the problem immediately. :) [18:00] CardinalFang: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/desktopcouch/0.6.4-0ubuntu3.1 [18:00] It doubtless introduced other problems, but since this is a laptop I'll deal with that for a bit. :) [18:01] nhaines: i don't think anything else is using unity via gir right now, so it shouldn't have caused any more issues by removing it [18:02] dobey, hi, I am not really here but what's the bug number for current unity-introduced syncdaemon crashing? [18:02] i don't remember [18:03] looks like bug #731023 [18:03] Launchpad bug 731023 in libunity (Ubuntu) "ubuntuone-syncdaemon crashed with ImportError in get_interfaces_for_object(): No module named Dee (affects: 104) (dups: 42) (heat: 450)" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/731023 [18:05] dobey, thanks, will do a bugpattern now [18:08] great [18:08] vim is broken [18:09] i've been saying that for years! [18:09] [18:10] dobey, no, well, today it is broken due to package dependency and this is the first time my lovely vim is handled by command-not-found [18:13] 10:08 < rye> great [18:13] 10:08 < rye> vim is broken [18:13] 10:09 < dobey> i've been saying that for years! [18:13] 10:09 < dobey> [18:14] Yay, I hate using PuTTY and Windows [18:14] ok, bugpattern is set [18:19] http://ubuntuone.com/p/gjv/ [18:19] dobey, will add your workaround to the bug report [18:20] i did [18:20] what i really want is for it to stop respawning [18:22] dobey, hm, yes, argh, did not update the page before posting :( [18:22] are we aware that U1 is DOSing our users on login? [18:22] apw, yes, bug #731023 [18:22] Launchpad bug 731023 in libunity (Ubuntu) "ubuntuone-syncdaemon crashed with ImportError in get_interfaces_for_object(): No module named Dee (affects: 105) (dups: 43) (heat: 458)" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/731023 [18:22] apw, unity is to blame [18:24] it is restarting the daemon on crash every 30s? [18:24] every 30 seconds? [18:24] that seems like a long time [18:24] and not in line with what everyone else is seeing [18:25] dobey: so i tested bug #661292 with the latest ubuntuone-client package installed 1.4.6-0ubuntu2 and it still doesn't appear to work without killing nautilus [18:25] Launchpad bug 661292 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 4 other projects) "Nautilus is not aware of published files (affects: 7) (dups: 4) (heat: 40)" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/661292 [18:25] dobey, thanks for the tip about the version. It appears there's a lp:ubuntu/lucid-updates/.... source-package tree. [18:25] well it may be more often, but whoever is respawning it is fail regardless of why its restarting [18:25] joshuahoover: did you wait? [18:26] apw, sudo apt-get remove gir1.2-unity-3.0 [18:26] CardinalFang: yeah there is, also one for lucid-proposed [18:26] dobey: yeah...i waited...tried it a few times just to be sure [18:26] huh [18:26] le sigh [18:29] joshuahoover: are you using i386 or amd64 in the vm? [18:29] dobey: i386 [18:30] ok, bugpattern is already in action [18:31] joshuahoover: hrmm, something is not right then, because my patch is being applied in the build log, so it's there [18:31] dobey: is there something i can check? [18:32] dobey: i know i have the latest proposed package installed according to apt-cache policy ubuntuone-client but is there something else i should check? [18:33] joshuahoover: and it's 0ubuntu2? [18:33] dobey: yep [18:34] i don't know [18:34] well [18:34] we won't receive any more bug reports for this issue [18:34] i think something is maybe not right in your vm perhaps [18:35] because apport breaks on that [18:35] so sweet [18:35] i wonder if rick can verify it [18:52] * dobey uploads a quick change to u1client to make the unity caused crashiness stop [19:28] dobey: yay [19:30] help ubuntuone-syncd is taking 100% CPU. it is respawning every 1.5 seconds. I cannot work. What can I do? [19:30] I could uninstall all ubuntuone, but I just want to stop it today [19:31] sinzui: uninstall gir1.2-unity-3.0 [19:31] okay [19:32] * dobey wonders if the u1 update is published yet [19:32] looks like it is for i386/amd64 at least [19:33] hooray me for making that upload [19:34] \o/ thanks dobey [19:35] :) [19:35] Chipaca, it's been 3 hours and I still don't have my album :\ [19:35] it made a music folder [19:35] but that's it === facundobatista is now known as rule [19:42] lamalex: in ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk in the folders tab, is the music folder subscribed? [19:42] i suspect it isn't :) [19:44] that appears to be the problem [19:44] known bug? [19:46] yeah [19:46] well "bug" [19:47] but yeah, i know of it :) [19:53] beuno: hi there! I started late today and would like to finally move the sync to action queue, which is hell important - how about I provide the apk then? I'll be working late today, so perhaps I'll manage before tomorrow evening. [19:53] karni, hey, I've been off yesterday and today [19:53] sure, send away :) [19:53] rule: available for one question :) ? [19:55] beuno: ok, I'll continue to work on that and sync should be much more robust. I'll get back to you once that's ready. [19:55] __lucio__: perhaps you're available for one question? === ajmitch_ is now known as ajmitch [19:55] karni, I'll be back later, when my girlfriend isn't looking [19:56] otherwise, tomorrow [19:56] beuno: haha sure! I don't think I'll finish in 4-5 hours at least, so is safe to assume I'll ping you by tomorrow [19:57] karni, tell me === rule is now known as facundobatista [19:57] facundobatista: thanks. Is there anything holding me from thinging about sync as ActionCommandQueue commands? Let me shortly justify. [19:58] thinging? [19:58] facundobatista: u1 desktop client does some work in the background, and then uploads/downloads some data, etc. so it's not very imporant what's it's detailed state. [19:58] thinking, sorry ;) [19:59] facundobatista: what I want to do is implement such commands: (apart from ListVolumes and ListShares), SyncVolumeFromScrach, SyncVolume [19:59] facundobatista: that way, I can put neccessary Sync* commands on the queue, and each will further add any up/downloads that are neccessary to sync [19:59] karni, for those there is the GetDeltas [19:59] *are [19:59] right, yes. that's not what I mean. [19:59] ok, I'll try to be even more precise :) [20:00] what the SyncVolume will do? [20:00] all the sync logic for that volume, and add any uploads/downloads neccessary to the queue [20:01] what this gives me is much easier handling of the service that is running to do all that work - when the queues are busy [20:01] I easily update the UI, add notifications, etc [20:01] karni, well, we explicitly put the sync logic in Sync, not in the queue [20:01] karni, it was our design decission, you can mix that.... but I don't know if it's a good idea (maybe it is!) [20:01] if I do the sync logic off the queues (i.e. exactly, in Sync, not queue) then my queue is idle [20:02] facundobatista: I see. Right. Too bad I don't know as much as you guys! ;) [20:02] facundobatista, karni, I'm about to need to create a volume, if one does not exist. The path part worries me, in that I don't know if I need the full path as u1sdclient shows it to me. On a phone, i don't know what comes after /home/- and before -/Music (or whatever). I guess I need to read up how this works. [20:02] facundobatista: I'm quite sure that handling sync logic that way might streamline how I manage all actions (commands) [20:03] karni, I wouldn't take the decission of where to put the Sync logic based in the notification of when the queue is idle or not... the former is way more complicated and the decission should be based on more heavy stuff [20:03] CardinalFang: I get it, I'll get back to you shortly once I finish with facundobatista ! ok? [20:04] facundobatista: That sounded a little childish of me. What I meant is that, syncdaemon on Android is very different form the one on desktop. [20:04] facundobatista: It is quite often shutdown/killed, mostly when the app is idle and not in the foreground [20:05] karni, so? [20:05] facundobatista: I was thinking about it for quite some time. And I thought that if I can put 'Sync' command on the queue, and it'll do the rest for me [20:05] karni, ok [20:05] then all sync-logic is not done on the background, and kind of meaningless for the rest of the app [20:06] if I ran for few hours, then I wouldn't mind having the sync logic totally disconnected from all the rest, and just dispatching events [20:06] but in that case, I feel it gives the sync-logic a somewhat strong presence and importance to the service [20:07] purely based on how it's implemented (as ActionQueueCommands) [20:07] facundobatista: What's your opinion? [20:07] karni, I'm not following how where the logic is put is affected by the application being often shutdown/killed, or running idle [20:08] Can I tell u1 not to send notifications? it sends so freaking many [20:08] facundobatista: The service has a 90-second idle timeout (*if* it is not in the foreground) [20:08] facundobatista: The sync (currently) is run on a separate thread. [20:08] lamalex: install the nightlies [20:09] dobey, thanks [20:09] oh [20:09] lamalex: i think it has an option, and it's also a lot better about notifying [20:09] facundobatista: If the user leaves the app, and the sync becomes slow (which has been the case for some time), then the service itself shutdown [20:09] although the sync was running. You could think 'it's a bug' - certainly [20:09] facundobatista: It's easy for me to check a boolean flag isSyncRunning or something like that [20:10] facundobatista: but it's much easier to put something on the queue, which, on it's own and automatically not only keeps the service running, but also [20:10] provides feedback to the UI (*if* it's present) [20:10] ok [20:10] facundobatista: I could decouple those things. I certainly want to improve my sync logic at present. [20:11] karni, ok, but you're taking distance of the desktop's client architecture [20:11] dobey, our ubuntuone-client-crashdb.conf crashes apport now [20:11] dobey, preparing branch now [20:11] uhm [20:11] rly? [20:11] why? [20:11] also [20:11] shen me niao [20:11] shen me niao: command not found [20:12] it's "wtf" in mandarin [20:12] facundobatista: I'm aware of that. That's why I'm asking of this rather big steop is sensible. Still, having in mind, that Android is indeed _very_ far from the desktop impl. [20:12] dobey, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/731526 [20:12] rye: Error: Bug #731526 is private. [20:12] huh? [20:13] bug #731526 ? [20:13] Launchpad bug 731526 in apport (Ubuntu) "apport-gtk crashed with KeyError in get_crashdb(): 'bug_pattern_url' for ubuntuone bugpattern (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/731526 [20:13]