charlie-tca | mr_pouit: powerpc builds are stopped | 15:27 |
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ochosi | good news everyone, there'll be a new release of the elementary icons really soon (as in: within the next days) and my patch for the bug with the appfinder (appfinder-icon == catfish-icon) is included | 16:26 |
micahg | ochosi: is the missing education icon known? | 16:26 |
ochosi | micahg: is it also missing in bzr? | 16:27 |
micahg | ochosi: idk, haven't checked yet | 16:27 |
ochosi | i'll quickly have a look | 16:27 |
ochosi | micahg: sry, can't say whether it's known, it seems to be missing though: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~elementarydesign/elementaryicons/trunk/files/head:/elementary-icon-theme/elementary/categories/24/?file_id=categories-20091112072358-d8c4uieo922x9z6k-20 | 16:31 |
micahg | ochosi: do you want me to file a bug, if so where | 16:31 |
ochosi | i'm not sure, i quickly have to reboot to get from my testing to my working env and then i'll get back to you | 16:32 |
micahg | ochosi: I also wanted to make sure the category should be there according to the spec | 16:32 |
ochosi | i'll try to communicate with upstream directly and see whether we can fix it before the release | 16:32 |
ochosi | hm yeah, probably taking a look at the spec beforehands makes sense :) | 16:32 |
ochosi | brb | 16:32 |
ochosi | micahg: so we have to check the fd.org specs for icons, right? | 16:40 |
micahg | ochosi: idk :) | 16:41 |
ochosi | lol | 16:41 |
ochosi | two experts talking :) | 16:41 |
micahg | I'm just starting to get involved here :) | 16:41 |
ochosi | micahg: http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec-latest.html go to "Table 5." | 16:41 |
ochosi | what apps are using the category education? | 16:42 |
micahg | just anki ATM, which leads me to believe it's wrong | 16:42 |
ochosi | right, never heard of anki before | 16:42 |
ochosi | probably file the bug there ,) | 16:42 |
charlie-tca | um, gcompris uses Education too | 16:43 |
charlie-tca | It is an application aimed at helping kids learn the computer | 16:43 |
charlie-tca | as well as teaching numbers and alphabet | 16:44 |
ochosi | hm, well somehow it doesn't seem fd.org compliant to use that category | 16:45 |
ochosi | but hey, basically anyone can create categories as they please :) | 16:46 |
charlie-tca | Ubuntu uses education also | 16:46 |
ochosi | to the worst we can fix that bug by throwing ubuntu's education icon into elementaryXubuntu | 16:47 |
charlie-tca | That might be the best way to do it, there are other education applications, but I can't remember them now | 16:48 |
charlie-tca | and, I just re-formatted the drive with them... :-( | 16:48 |
micahg | maybe we should ask dobey since he wrote the spec :) | 16:48 |
ochosi | micahg: sure, go ahead :) | 16:49 |
charlie-tca | the other side will be the number of reports we get based on the category without an icon | 16:49 |
micahg | charlie-tca: well, if the category shouldn't be there, we should fix the packages | 16:50 |
charlie-tca | Great idea. Can we start with gcompris, which I install for kids to use? | 16:50 |
micahg | charlie-tca: sure, I can fix it, once we confirm where the issue is | 16:51 |
charlie-tca | I take it back, Ubuntu no longer uses menus for anything | 17:08 |
ochosi | :) | 17:10 |
charlie-tca | mr_pouit, ochosi : slideshow in today's desktop image is only the last page | 17:28 |
charlie-tca | hm, then it appears to actually start and go throguh slides | 17:30 |
charlie-tca | micahg: yes, pidgin starts from the indicator-plugin on the live desktop | 17:31 |
mr_pouit | slideshows haven't been touched yet, anyway | 17:55 |
charlie-tca | they are acting weird for some reason | 17:55 |
mr_pouit | micahg: if it's not supposed to be here, I can remove the education category from the default xubuntu menu file | 17:55 |
mr_pouit | but afaik, this category exists and is valid | 17:56 |
charlie-tca | It starts as a blank, goes to the last page, then starts over and works | 17:56 |
micahg | mr_pouit: yeah, I'll have to talk to dobey, it's not on the freedesktop spec | 17:56 |
mr_pouit | http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apa.html | 17:56 |
mr_pouit | it's here, at least | 17:56 |
micahg | mr_pouit: ah, that's probably the more recent one, ochosi gave me an outdated link :) | 17:57 |
mr_pouit | no, that wasn't the same spec | 17:57 |
mr_pouit | (icon vs. menu) | 17:57 |
micahg | mr_pouit: how do we resolve the 2 | 17:57 |
mr_pouit | hehe | 17:58 |
micahg | mr_pouit: I got the ACK from mythbuntu on updating xfce4-mixer, I'll file the paperwork soon, builds fine as well, but needs merge due to epoch | 18:03 |
micahg | mr_pouit: do you have a branch for it, or can I just upload? | 18:03 |
charlie-tca | At least I don't need Alt+sysRq+k to get the desktop in Xubuntu | 18:06 |
charlie-tca | mr_pouit: desktop image works today; install completed without crashes; restarted to the desktop without crashes | 18:07 |
charlie-tca | ochosi: got two workspaces in the live cd, 4 workspaces in the installed desktop | 18:07 |
mr_pouit | micahg: I used bzr branches for one release, and then I threw everything to /dev/null, the launchpad importer was never up to date when I needed it | 18:09 |
mr_pouit | so, no branch | 18:10 |
micahg | mr_pouit: heh, ok, do you want to maintain in Debian git? | 18:10 |
micahg | or is it not worth it for these minor diffs? | 18:10 |
mr_pouit | yeah, we'll put branches in debian git, when pkg-xfce uses it too (for the moment it's still svn and no migration has been planned ;-) | 18:11 |
mr_pouit | I don't even remember why xfce4-mixer has an epoch | 18:11 |
mr_pouit | iirc, it's not even said in debian/changelog | 18:11 |
mr_pouit | that's a great epic fail | 18:11 |
mr_pouit | so feel free to upload directly | 18:12 |
mr_pouit | charlie-tca: nice, thanks for testing | 18:12 |
micahg | mr_pouit: * Sync with os-works.com. | 18:12 |
micahg | almost 6 yrs ago | 18:12 |
mr_pouit | micahg: where do you see that? I can't find it in debian/changelog apparently | 18:15 |
micahg | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-mixer/+changelog | 18:15 |
mr_pouit | ah indeed | 18:16 |
mr_pouit | that was a bad move :( | 18:17 |
micahg | apparently Ubuntu was much looser with epoch bumps in the past, now they are frowned upon | 18:18 |
mr_pouit | (tbh, ubuntu was much looser with everything, especially badly/undocumented merges :) | 18:18 |
mr_pouit | oops, I should refresh the pages before replying to a bug :> | 18:38 |
charlie-tca | I hate when I do that | 18:40 |
mr_pouit | well, I just did that to the claws-indicator bug ;> | 18:41 |
charlie-tca | Of course, with all the advances made in browser technology, you would think they would refresh automatically by now | 18:41 |
charlie-tca | They can do it on pages full of garbage, why not on pages you care about? | 18:41 |
charlie-tca | Hm, I would file that as a suggestion/wishlist, but mozilla won t allow me to file anything greater than a stupid 140 characters | 18:53 |
micahg | charlie-tca: ? | 18:53 |
charlie-tca | you can click feedback in 4.0b12, and give a 140 character comment. Nothing else works | 18:53 |
Sysi | i think there's been automatic reload since like 2.0, but i dunno how to use it | 18:54 |
charlie-tca | which makes it useless? | 18:55 |
Sysi | i've never needed it.. | 18:55 |
Sysi | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/reloadevery/ | 18:56 |
charlie-tca | not built in, ? | 18:57 |
Sysi | apparently | 18:57 |
micahg | charlie-tca: idk, ask chrisccoulson about that | 19:05 |
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