[15:27] mr_pouit: powerpc builds are stopped [16:26] good news everyone, there'll be a new release of the elementary icons really soon (as in: within the next days) and my patch for the bug with the appfinder (appfinder-icon == catfish-icon) is included [16:26] ochosi: is the missing education icon known? [16:27] micahg: is it also missing in bzr? [16:27] ochosi: idk, haven't checked yet [16:27] i'll quickly have a look [16:31] micahg: sry, can't say whether it's known, it seems to be missing though: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~elementarydesign/elementaryicons/trunk/files/head:/elementary-icon-theme/elementary/categories/24/?file_id=categories-20091112072358-d8c4uieo922x9z6k-20 [16:31] ochosi: do you want me to file a bug, if so where [16:32] i'm not sure, i quickly have to reboot to get from my testing to my working env and then i'll get back to you [16:32] ochosi: I also wanted to make sure the category should be there according to the spec [16:32] i'll try to communicate with upstream directly and see whether we can fix it before the release [16:32] hm yeah, probably taking a look at the spec beforehands makes sense :) [16:32] brb [16:40] micahg: so we have to check the fd.org specs for icons, right? [16:41] ochosi: idk :) [16:41] lol [16:41] two experts talking :) [16:41] I'm just starting to get involved here :) [16:41] micahg: http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec-latest.html go to "Table 5." [16:42] what apps are using the category education? [16:42] just anki ATM, which leads me to believe it's wrong [16:42] right, never heard of anki before [16:42] probably file the bug there ,) [16:43] um, gcompris uses Education too [16:43] It is an application aimed at helping kids learn the computer [16:44] as well as teaching numbers and alphabet [16:45] hm, well somehow it doesn't seem fd.org compliant to use that category [16:46] but hey, basically anyone can create categories as they please :) [16:46] Ubuntu uses education also [16:47] to the worst we can fix that bug by throwing ubuntu's education icon into elementaryXubuntu [16:48] That might be the best way to do it, there are other education applications, but I can't remember them now [16:48] and, I just re-formatted the drive with them... :-( [16:48] maybe we should ask dobey since he wrote the spec :) [16:49] micahg: sure, go ahead :) [16:49] the other side will be the number of reports we get based on the category without an icon [16:50] charlie-tca: well, if the category shouldn't be there, we should fix the packages [16:50] Great idea. Can we start with gcompris, which I install for kids to use? [16:51] charlie-tca: sure, I can fix it, once we confirm where the issue is [17:08] I take it back, Ubuntu no longer uses menus for anything [17:10] :) [17:28] mr_pouit, ochosi : slideshow in today's desktop image is only the last page [17:30] hm, then it appears to actually start and go throguh slides [17:31] micahg: yes, pidgin starts from the indicator-plugin on the live desktop [17:55] slideshows haven't been touched yet, anyway [17:55] they are acting weird for some reason [17:55] micahg: if it's not supposed to be here, I can remove the education category from the default xubuntu menu file [17:56] but afaik, this category exists and is valid [17:56] It starts as a blank, goes to the last page, then starts over and works [17:56] mr_pouit: yeah, I'll have to talk to dobey, it's not on the freedesktop spec [17:56] http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/latest/apa.html [17:56] it's here, at least [17:57] mr_pouit: ah, that's probably the more recent one, ochosi gave me an outdated link :) [17:57] no, that wasn't the same spec [17:57] (icon vs. menu) [17:57] mr_pouit: how do we resolve the 2 [17:58] hehe [18:03] mr_pouit: I got the ACK from mythbuntu on updating xfce4-mixer, I'll file the paperwork soon, builds fine as well, but needs merge due to epoch [18:03] mr_pouit: do you have a branch for it, or can I just upload? [18:06] At least I don't need Alt+sysRq+k to get the desktop in Xubuntu [18:07] mr_pouit: desktop image works today; install completed without crashes; restarted to the desktop without crashes [18:07] ochosi: got two workspaces in the live cd, 4 workspaces in the installed desktop [18:09] micahg: I used bzr branches for one release, and then I threw everything to /dev/null, the launchpad importer was never up to date when I needed it [18:10] so, no branch [18:10] mr_pouit: heh, ok, do you want to maintain in Debian git? [18:10] or is it not worth it for these minor diffs? [18:11] yeah, we'll put branches in debian git, when pkg-xfce uses it too (for the moment it's still svn and no migration has been planned ;-) [18:11] I don't even remember why xfce4-mixer has an epoch [18:11] iirc, it's not even said in debian/changelog [18:11] that's a great epic fail [18:12] so feel free to upload directly [18:12] charlie-tca: nice, thanks for testing [18:12] mr_pouit: * Sync with os-works.com. [18:12] almost 6 yrs ago [18:15] micahg: where do you see that? I can't find it in debian/changelog apparently [18:15] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-mixer/+changelog [18:16] ah indeed [18:17] that was a bad move :( [18:18] apparently Ubuntu was much looser with epoch bumps in the past, now they are frowned upon [18:18] (tbh, ubuntu was much looser with everything, especially badly/undocumented merges :) [18:38] oops, I should refresh the pages before replying to a bug :> [18:40] I hate when I do that [18:41] well, I just did that to the claws-indicator bug ;> [18:41] Of course, with all the advances made in browser technology, you would think they would refresh automatically by now [18:41] They can do it on pages full of garbage, why not on pages you care about? [18:53] Hm, I would file that as a suggestion/wishlist, but mozilla won t allow me to file anything greater than a stupid 140 characters [18:53] charlie-tca: ? [18:53] you can click feedback in 4.0b12, and give a 140 character comment. Nothing else works [18:54] i think there's been automatic reload since like 2.0, but i dunno how to use it [18:55] which makes it useless? [18:55] i've never needed it.. [18:56] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/reloadevery/ [18:57] not built in, ? [18:57] apparently [19:05] charlie-tca: idk, ask chrisccoulson about that