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[00:55] <LLStarks> hmm, here's a thought. how often do unity expo icons update?
[00:55] <LLStarks> i'm still getting the old chromium logo when searching.
[00:55] <LLStarks> new logo in the bar after launching
[03:20] <LLStarks> i think new scrollbars in classic mode is a nautilus killer.
[03:21] <LLStarks> i'm getting an infinite kill loop.
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[06:25] <victory747> Hi, I'm having troubles with unity-2d, especially as there is no shutdown button and other notifiers on the top bar. Should I be running this out of the repos, or out of the ppa?
[06:26] <victory747> oh,I should mention I'm running natty
[07:24] <didrocks> good morning
[07:48] <coz_> good day all
[08:04] <MacSlow> hey folks
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[08:56] <didrocks> kamstrup: yeah, here for some xapian help? :)
[08:58] <didrocks> seems I have hyphen issues as well :)
[08:59] <kamstrup> didrocks: hehe, right
[09:00] <didrocks> kamstrup: so, basically all is fine
[09:00] <didrocks> I create the XX associated to an "exec" tag
[09:00] <kamstrup> didrocks: xapian has some odd thing with hyphens - turns any word they're in into a Xapian::PhraseQuery making them match differnetly
[09:00] <didrocks> and exec=gnome-display-properties
[09:00] <didrocks> right
[09:00] <kamstrup> didrocks: the query string must be exec:gnome-display-properties
[09:00] <didrocks> so I guess that my request:
[09:01] <didrocks> yeah :)
[09:01] <didrocks> and I think it asks for:
[09:01] <didrocks> exec:gnome display properties
[09:01] <didrocks> (adding automatically AND between them)
[09:01] <didrocks> isn't it?
[09:01] <didrocks> I see that exec:gnomine works, so really a hyphen question :)
[09:02] <kamstrup> didrocks: I think that query may be transformed into "XXgnome display properties" <- note the quotes, this is a phrase query
[09:02] <kamstrup> didrocks: and phrase queries doesn't work with prefix matching
[09:03] <didrocks> kamstrup: so, do you think I must transform hypens by space in the indexer?
[09:03] <kamstrup> didrocks: oh wait, so you're saying that exec:gnome-display-properties still doesn't match even though it's the whole string?
[09:03] <didrocks> it works for exec:gnomine for instance
[09:03] <didrocks> it's a whole string, isn't it?
[09:04] <kamstrup> didrocks: one trick I use in the zg-fts extension is to transform any any of the chars in " -/" into a "_"
[09:04] <kamstrup> that seems to work well with prefix matching
[09:04] <didrocks> kamstrup: ok, I wanted to avoid that, but ok. I'll do that in both side (indexer and request)
[09:04] <kamstrup> oh, and for some reason prefix matching doesn't work with Capital letters either, so you must .lower() the string before indexing and querying
[09:05] <didrocks> oh ok, thanks for the notice! :)
[09:05] <didrocks> even if for command line, I don't think it's needed :)
[09:05] <kamstrup> yeah, believe me I spend a good while debugging that :-)
[09:05] <kamstrup> indeed
[09:05] <didrocks> kamstrup: so, on that prefix matching, as I have the whole command name
[09:05] <didrocks> kamstrup: I want exact string matching, not prefix
[09:05] <didrocks> like exec:gnomi -> nothing exec:gnomine -> YEAH!
[09:06] <kamstrup> didrocks: then create another set of QUERY_FLAGS for the query_parser and remove the prefix and partial flags from it
[09:07] <didrocks> kamstrup: ok, I'll have a look at that. but the hyphen issues and such are still there isn't it? it's not a prefix matching thing only?
[09:07]  * didrocks works on his netbook today :/
[09:08] <kamstrup> didrocks: prolly not - so I'll recommand transformaing your terms like lower().replace(" ", "_")
[09:08] <kamstrup> didrocks: for both index and query of course
[09:08] <didrocks> kamstrup: ok, will do that on both side :)
[09:08] <didrocks> sure
[09:08] <didrocks> I wanted to be smarter than that if there was a trick
[09:08] <didrocks> hence the fact I didn't do that yesterday
[09:08] <kamstrup> didrocks: oh, wait sorry, i meant replace("-", "_")
[09:08] <didrocks> yeah, got it :)
[09:08] <kamstrup> :-)
[09:09] <didrocks> kamstrup: so, I would say, apart from this (and activation), altf2 is nearly finished
[09:09] <didrocks> as for the activation, I'm waiting on njpatel :)
[09:09] <didrocks> thanks for your advise :)
[09:10] <kamstrup> didrocks: wow, that's awesome!
[09:10] <njpatel> yes ,yes, I'll do it today
[09:10] <njpatel> man, you platform guys are insistent
[09:11] <didrocks> njpatel: why? I didn't want to put any pressure on you dude
[09:11] <didrocks> I will have enough hard time to cook my graphic card this evening :/
[09:12] <njpatel> didrocks, I was joking dude, I missed the smiley :)
[09:12] <didrocks> oh ok :)
[09:13] <didrocks> grrr, can't look at bugmails on a 1024 pixels netbook. Will postpone that for tomorrow
[09:28] <njpatel> didrocks, is your laptop still in warranty?
[09:28] <njpatel> or you'll need to get a new one?
[09:28] <didrocks> njpatel: no, it has 3 years, so I'll need to get a new one
[09:28] <njpatel> ah :(
[09:28] <didrocks> yeah, really sucks :/
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[12:40] <aruiz> kenvandine, I've done a new release with a few fixes
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[14:21] <lamalex> didrocks, email?
[14:22] <didrocks> lamalex: do you have a shell access now?
[14:23] <lamalex> ha oh maybe i forgot we were blocked on that :p
[14:25] <lamalex> didrocks, yes
[14:25] <didrocks> lamalex: ok, awesome! :)
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[14:32] <coz_> hey all
[14:34] <kenvandine> aruiz, including a fix for the bug i filed?
[14:35] <aruiz> kenvandine, yup
[14:35] <aruiz> kenvandine, it's a temporary fix, but it works
[14:35] <aruiz> :-)
[14:37] <kenvandine> great
[14:39] <apinheiro> njpatel, you here?
[14:40] <njpatel> apinheiro, hey
[14:41] <apinheiro> njpatel, I have two merge proposals waiting for review
[14:41] <apinheiro> https://code.launchpad.net/~apinheiro
[14:41] <kenvandine> aruiz, wow... huge improvement!
[14:41] <apinheiro> rodrigo is in holidays this week
[14:41] <aruiz> kenvandine, thanks!
[14:41] <apinheiro> but it would be good if someone review it
[14:41] <aruiz> kenvandine, I'm working on shortcuts now
[14:41] <kenvandine> aruiz, the submenus for New, Recent Documents,  etc are all there now... but clicking on anything doesn't work
[14:41] <apinheiro> as it also touchs non-a11y code
[14:41] <kenvandine> known issue?
[14:41] <aruiz> kenvandine, yes
[14:41] <kenvandine> ok
[14:41] <kenvandine> :)
[14:41] <apinheiro> njpatel, but not sure who poke about it
[14:41] <aruiz> kenvandine, Recent document is the one that doesn't work
[14:41] <kenvandine> aruiz, great work!
[14:41] <aruiz> the others should though
[14:41] <kenvandine> new didn't
[14:41] <aruiz> hu?
[14:42]  * aruiz checks
[14:42] <kenvandine> aruiz, nm
[14:42] <kenvandine> it does
[14:42] <apinheiro> njpatel, for the moment I have just "Unity Team" on the review request
[14:42] <kenvandine> i didn't expect it to replace the existing window
[14:42] <kenvandine> that is kind of weird
[14:42] <aruiz> kenvandine, yeah
[14:42] <aruiz> kenvandine, so, basically, executing a command is sending one string to a service inside openoffice
[14:43] <kenvandine> humm... how do you switch between them?
[14:43] <aruiz> so
[14:43] <kenvandine> oh, so this is also lo-menubar related :)
[14:43] <aruiz> should be
[14:43] <kenvandine> ok, i'll file a bug to make sure we address it
[14:44] <aruiz> yup
[14:45] <njpatel> apinheiro, when you've had a proposal up for some time with no one from the team looking
[14:45] <njpatel> apinheiro, you should just ping me and I can ask one of the guys to do it
[14:45] <njpatel> apinheiro, normally we deal witht hem ever one-two days
[14:46] <njpatel> but it doesn't always work out like that, of cours
[14:46] <apinheiro> njpatel, well, this is more or less what Im doing now, ;)
[14:46] <njpatel> right, I mean to say, your right :)
[14:46] <njpatel> gord, MacSlow could one of you please review apinheiro's pending branches?
[14:46] <apinheiro> yeah, just looking the bugzilla updates, a lot of activity these days
[14:47] <apinheiro> njpatel, thanks
[14:47] <njpatel> apinheiro, launchpad! ;)
[14:48] <apinheiro> njpatel, yeah sorry :P
[14:50] <MacSlow> gord, njpatel: I'm taking lp:~apinheiro/unity/launcher-icon-also-focused
[14:50] <MacSlow> gord, you can do the other... so it's evenly split load
[14:50] <apinheiro> MacSlow, take into account that this merge proposal depend of the other
[14:50] <apinheiro> I mean that I started with the fix-parent-blabla
[14:50] <apinheiro> and over it
[14:51] <apinheiro> I implemented the launcher-icon-blabla
[14:51] <MacSlow> apinheiro, this one launcher-icon-also-focused
[14:51] <MacSlow> apinheiro, ok
[14:51] <MacSlow> apinheiro, yeah it's clearly stated under "Prerequisite:"
[14:52] <MacSlow> apinheiro, gord, njpatel: oh Rodrigo is also on both of them
[14:52] <apinheiro> MacSlow, yeah, normally for all a11 things
[14:52] <njpatel> MacSlow, that's for the a11y stuff, one of us needs to checkt he actual unity code
[14:52] <apinheiro> a11y I mean
[14:52] <apinheiro> we reaview the other
[14:52] <apinheiro> but as this also modifies some non-a11y things
[14:52] <apinheiro> I ask for a second opinion
[14:53] <apinheiro> MacSlow, in the same way
[14:53] <apinheiro> rodrigo is in holidays
[14:53] <MacSlow> apinheiro, ok... just want to make sure we're not doing duplicate work here :)
[14:53] <MacSlow> apinheiro, I see
[14:53] <apinheiro> in fact, if you both gave an ok
[14:53] <apinheiro> probably I will ask dbarth to go on without waiting to rodrigo (next week)
[14:55] <gord> MacSlow, apinheiro - sorry was on a call, you still need me to check one?
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[14:56] <MacSlow> gord, apinheiro: there's a small merge-conflict with the lp:~apinheiro/unity/fix-parent-child-hierarchy one in src/PlacesController.h
[14:56] <MacSlow> gord, np... I'll do both
[14:57] <MacSlow> gord, would be too much back and forth otherwise
[14:57] <gord> oh okay, have fun :)
[14:57] <apinheiro> MacSlow, odd
[14:58] <apinheiro> MacSlow, ok, I will update both and upload a new version
[14:58] <apinheiro> I will try to solve that merge proposal
[14:58] <apinheiro> probably the trunk has diverged too much
[14:58] <MacSlow> apinheiro, see comment on the fix-parent one
[14:58]  * apinheiro looking
[14:59] <apinheiro> MacSlow, well yes, this is one of the examples of "non-a11y" code that I needed to add
[15:00] <apinheiro> as I said I will update both branches, in order to solve the merge error
[15:00] <MacSlow> apinheiro, ping me when done
[15:00] <apinheiro> MacSlow, ok, thanks
[15:19] <apinheiro> MacSlow, done, sorry for the delay, just testing that things keep compiling and so on
[15:26] <MacSlow> apinheiro, ok... I'll switch back to the review of your two branchs
[15:28] <apinheiro> MacSlow, ok, thanks
[15:54] <MacSlow> apinheiro, njpatel: Alejandro's two branches are approved. All encountered issues solved... there was actually only one small one.
[15:55] <apinheiro> MacSlow, ok thanks
[15:55] <apinheiro> dbarth_, you here?
[15:55] <njpatel> MacSlow, excellent, thank you
[16:02] <apinheiro> njpatel, well, as dbarth_ is not available, should I merge both branches? after all rodrigo is not back until next week
[16:04] <njpatel> apinheiro, yes, please do
[16:04] <apinheiro> njpatel, ok
[16:11] <lamalex> didrocks, can I mark https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/710609 confirmed?
[16:11] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 710609 in unity "Unity performance regression on Intel i915 graphic chipset (Asus EeePC 900)" [High,Incomplete]
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[16:12] <didrocks> lamalex: yes, please
[16:24] <apinheiro> didrocks, I have just fixed bugs 729165, 727908, 727133
[16:24] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 729165 in unity (Ubuntu) "Regression: Orca doesn't speech out the selection changes on the Launcher" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/729165
[16:24] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 727908 in unity (Ubuntu) "Accessibility object parent-child hierarchy on unity is broken" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727908
[16:24] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 727133 in unity "Orca doesn't report that the Launcher receives the focus" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727133
[16:24] <apinheiro> should I update the milestone?
[16:25] <didrocks> apinheiro: yes please as well as set the unity upstream task as fix committed
[16:27] <apinheiro> didrocks, well, this "in progress" that report ubot5 is just for the "unity (Ubuntu)"
[16:27] <didrocks> Enfin, les pâtes thermiques contenant des particules métalliques (la plupart du temps de l'argent) en suspens dans d'autres composants. Du fait de la présence de métal, ces pâtes ont également une capacité électrique plus ou moins importante, ce qui peut poser problème si la pâte venait à entrer en contact avec des connexions.
[16:27] <apinheiro> on unity upstreams it is fixed
[16:27] <didrocks> apinheiro: ok, nice
[16:27] <didrocks> oupss, wrong copy/paste :)
[16:27] <apinheiro> didrocks, hmm, can I edit the milestone?
[16:27] <apinheiro> because I don't see the way to do that
[16:27] <dbarth> apinheiro: ping?
[16:28] <didrocks> apinheiro: not sure, if not, I'll do it, but later…
[16:28] <apinheiro> didrocks, ok
[16:28] <apinheiro> dbarth, pong?
[16:37] <LLStarks> didrocks, new scrollbars are crashing nautilus infinitely in classic mode.
[16:52] <didrocks> LLStarks: ask this to Cimi_
[16:53] <Cimi_> didrocks: GO TO BED
[16:53] <Cimi_> :)
[16:53] <didrocks> Cimi_: need to finish some stuff :)
[17:03] <ffkkfjg> hi
[17:04] <ffkkfjg> anyone there?
[17:08] <mterry> tedg, do you have ideas for how the preference for showing the clock in the menu bar or not should work on a technical level?
[17:34] <njpatel> mterry, tedg Alt+F, Alt+E et al being broken, is there a bug tracking progress of that?
[17:34] <mterry> njpatel, yeah, hold on
[17:34] <mterry> njpatel, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-appmenu/+bug/663030
[17:34] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 663030 in indicator-appmenu (Ubuntu Natty) "indicator-appmenu breaks Alt accelerator keys" [High,Triaged]
[17:35] <mterry> (assigned to you :))
[17:35] <njpatel> awesome
[17:35] <njpatel> I'm pretty sure I haven't broken anything
[17:35] <jcastro> https://code.launchpad.net/~thjaeger/unity/raise-maximized/+merge/52644
[17:35] <jcastro> new contributor!
[17:36] <tedg> mterry, I'd think we should just not have an IndicatorObjectEntry... I think we need to keep the .so loaded.
[17:36] <tedg> mterry, That way we can track the change in the key.
[17:36] <njpatel> wtf
[17:36] <mterry> tedg, sure, k
[17:36] <mterry> njpatel, ?
[17:37] <njpatel> mterry, so your saying the Alt+F is broken inside Unity, and that the stack is working?
[17:37] <mterry> njpatel, uh, weren't we talking about this just the other day?  it's the show-now-changed work
[17:37] <Daekdroom> Hm, am I supposed to not be able to use mouse scroll wheel in Dash?
[17:37] <njpatel> mterry, indicator-object is meant to be sending out "show-menu" when Alt+F (or friends) is activated
[17:37] <njpatel> mterry, no, show-me is different
[17:38] <njpatel> mterry, show-me means "I'd like my entry to be presented to the user", "show-menu" means "I'd like my entries menu to be presented"
[17:38] <njpatel> mterry, the former happens when you press Alt, the latter when you press alt+4
[17:38] <njpatel> alt+f, even
[17:39] <mterry> njpatel, sure, but I thought unity was going to take things from there (since it had mnemonic info) but upon reflection, you probably can't because you don't have focus at that point
[17:39] <mterry> njpatel, ok, so I still have to do the show-menu bits
[17:40] <njpatel> mterry, so, the thing is that show-me was added specifically so we could replicate the "show mnenomics on Alt press" behavious. Show-menu has been there for ages and just broke
[17:40] <njpatel> where just = a few months ago
[17:40] <njpatel> tedg, correct me if I'm wrong^
[17:41] <njpatel> and I don't think anything has changed in the panel service there
[17:41] <mterry> njpatel, oh really?  I never noticed it working, but may have just not tried
[17:41] <Daekdroom> and why does systray still exist in unity-2d?
[17:41] <njpatel> mterry, yes, I mean we shipped it working in maverick and it worked early in natty and then just stopped
[17:43] <tedg> njpatel, Correct, it did work.  I figured you hadn't implemented it in the unity-panel-service?
[17:43] <njpatel> tedg, I'm very, very sure I have, but let me see it again
[17:46] <njpatel> tedg, I've connected to INDICATOR_OBJECT_SIGNAL_MENU_SHOW, it doesn't get activated when I press Alt+Foo
[17:46]  * njpatel adds some printfs
[17:47] <njpatel> tedg, mterry nope, signal never get's called for me
[17:48] <mterry> I'm looking now
[17:49] <njpatel> yeah, it doesn't work in gnome-panel without unity either
[17:49] <dbarth> sorry for the noise, i've downgraded to a version of connamn that doesn't kill konversation anymore (or so i hope)
[17:53] <JohnLea> njpatel; do you know if Jason is going to be around today or tomorrow?
[17:55] <LLStarks> cimi_, you're that murrine guy, right?
[17:56] <magcius> Unity keeps freezing windows: I have to kill unity-panel-service like every 10 seconds
[17:56] <magcius> When I run unity through --advanced-debug it segfaults
[17:57] <Cimi_> LLStarks: also
[17:57] <Cimi_> LLStarks: I'm the lead developer for overlay-scrollbars
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[17:57] <LLStarks> so yeah, how do i file a bug against a ppa? the ayatana mailing list?
[18:08] <dbarth_> aruiz: ping?
[18:10] <coz_> hey all
[18:14] <aruiz> dbarth_, pong
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[18:21] <njpatel> JohnLea, he's unwell today hopefully will be back tomorrow
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[20:36] <kklimonda> tedg: hey, is dbusmenu going to support menus that have items enabled/disabled dynamically like VirtualBox or Qt Creator in 11.04?
[20:57] <tedg> kklimonda, It should... does it not?
[20:58] <kklimonda> tedg: it doesn't
[20:59] <kklimonda> I think at least VirtualBox case has been reported
[21:00] <aruiz> kklimonda, then it's a bug on the Qt integration
[21:00] <aruiz> kklimonda, dbusmenu supports that perfectly :-)
[21:01] <tedg> kklimonda, Yeah, please make sure there's a bug filled.  Now that it's beyond feature freeze we're trying to get through them all :)
[21:03] <kklimonda> ok, will check and report :)
[21:10] <htorque_> kklimonda, bug 641209
[21:10] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 641209 in indicator-appmenu (Ubuntu) "With appmenu-gtk some menus are blacked out in VirtualBox" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/641209
[21:11] <kklimonda> htorque_: thanks, couldn't find it now :)
[21:15] <nmarques> kenvandine: ping, you around ?
[21:16] <nmarques> anyone can tell me how much 'required' glib patch is for Unity (60_wait-longer-for-threads-to-die.patch) ?
[21:19] <kenvandine> nmarques, hey
[21:19] <kenvandine> i can't say for sure, but i suspect it is a must have
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[23:23] <Mr> hola!
[23:23] <Mr> Quick question. I've got a win 7 machine and I want to get rid of explorer and run Unity instead.
[23:24] <magcius> Mr, Unity is Linux only.
[23:24] <Mr> Where should I start looking for instructions?
[23:24] <Mr> yeah, but it's GNOME right?
[23:24] <magcius> It's compiz-based.
[23:24] <magcius> which means it needs X windows
[23:24] <Mr> Hmmm....
[23:24] <magcius> Windows doesn't have X
[23:24] <magcius> You need an X server, and a lot of libraries. The easiest way to do that is to use a proper Linux distribution.
[23:24] <RAOF> (Well, it kinda does, but that's not the point ☺)
[23:25] <magcius> RAOF, cygwin doesn't count :)
[23:25] <Daekdroom> and hell, Unity is still rather buggy in Linux
[23:25] <Mr> I've seen people run KDE ontop of vista
[23:25] <Daekdroom> I've seen people run Openbox.
[23:25] <magcius> Mr, that's because KDE is based on Qt, sort of.
[23:25] <Daekdroom> But that doesn't mean anything.
[23:25] <magcius> They're basically running KDE applications, but not running KWin
[23:26] <magcius> Either way, you can't replace explorer with Unity, or compiz, or metacity, or compiz.
[23:26] <magcius> er, "or mutter"
[23:26] <Mr> Well crappy.
[23:26] <magcius> That's how it works.
[23:26] <Mr> What CAN I replace explorer with?
[23:26] <Mr> Other than litestep >_>
[23:26] <magcius> Do you want to replace the shell part of explorer, or the file manager?
[23:27] <Mr> Mostly the shell :/
[23:27] <magcius> I use Directory Opus when I run Windows.
[23:27] <magcius> But that's a file manager.
[23:28] <magcius> unity keeps crashing for me anyway
[23:28] <Mr> Oh. It's commercial software isn't it?
[23:28] <magcius> Mr, Directory Opus? Yes.
[23:28] <magcius> I paid for it.
[23:28] <Mr> For shame.
[23:28] <magcius> It doesn't replace the shell part, just the file manager part.
[23:28] <Mr> I gathered >_> hahah
[23:28] <magcius> Paying for goods and services that I consider worthy, what a concept/
[23:29] <Mr> I have a netbook running ubuntu with unity, and I just love the shell so much
[23:29] <Mr> And I have nothing against paying for software you know. I'm just damn near broke :(
[23:29] <Mr> (That "for shame" was for the software being commercial, not for you paying for it >_<)
[23:33] <Mr> Well, maybe litestep got some of the more serious bugs fixed...