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kim0 | hallyn: another thing, couldn't get audio to work. When using ac97 card, spicec disconnects with "Warning: Invalid mode". When using es1370 card, it boots, and windows update installed its drivers, however still no audio is output | 00:19 |
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kim0 | might be best to update to 0.8 and re-test | 00:26 |
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koolhead17|afk | kim0, hellos | 04:21 |
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Kyle__ | Does a proper UEC setup need to have two (or more) different subnets? I ask because I have asimple setup, and it _seems_ OK, but I can only connect to the VMs from the master-node of the cloud/cluster. | 16:29 |
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kim0 | Howdy everyone | 18:01 |
kim0 | Any new members around, feel free to ping me | 18:02 |
kim0 | Kyle__: hey, so the min setup is 2 machines, which to me means one subnet besides the public network | 18:03 |
jahil1 | is there any training/certification for ubuntu-cloud | 18:12 |
kim0 | thesheff17_: hey | 18:13 |
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kim0 | jahil1: are you looking for professional training | 18:14 |
jahil1 | yes | 18:14 |
kim0 | yes there is | 18:14 |
kim0 | let me find the link | 18:14 |
kim0 | jahil1: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/training/course-descriptions | 18:16 |
kim0 | scroll down to the bottom | 18:17 |
kim0 | jahil1: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/training/course-descriptions/deploying-enterprise-cloud | 18:17 |
jahil1 | thanks | 18:18 |
kim0 | jahil1: are you already using UEC ? | 18:18 |
jahil1 | yes | 18:19 |
jahil1 | we are using it for our development env | 18:19 |
thesheff17_ | kim0: hello | 18:19 |
kim0 | thesheff17_: Hi there | 18:19 |
kim0 | thesheff17_: are you new in #ubuntu-cloud ? | 18:21 |
thesheff17_ | kim0: this is the first time I have been in this irc chat room but I have been using ubuntu & KVM virtualization for years. | 18:21 |
kim0 | thesheff17_: ah a guru in disguise :) | 18:21 |
kim0 | haha | 18:22 |
kim0 | welcome | 18:22 |
kim0 | jahil1: I'm interested to learn more about how you're using UEC if that's ok | 18:22 |
thesheff17_ | sure | 18:22 |
thesheff17_ | I am systems admin for small tech company located in Chicago....money is tight UEC takes are of using every available resource we own. | 18:25 |
thesheff17_ | *takes care | 18:25 |
jahil1 | basically we are one of biggest broadcaster in middle east - we normally need short term websites for various competitions promos etc - from our development environment we build our custom ami as per hour need | 18:26 |
kim0 | thesheff17_: that's great indeed | 18:26 |
thesheff17_ | One area I'm interested in learning more is if people are running UEC on top of the amazon EC2 cloud just for testing. | 18:26 |
jahil1 | before i was doing manually bootstarop and build ami | 18:26 |
kim0 | thesheff17_: you mean like http://foss-boss.blogspot.com/2010/10/cloud-on-cloud-uec-on-ec2.html | 18:27 |
kim0 | jahil1: interesting, I'm based in the middle-east as well :) | 18:27 |
thesheff17_ | yup | 18:28 |
kim0 | jahil1: are you familiar with cloud-init | 18:28 |
jahil1 | still ami build process is little bit complicated for thats why i was looking for training | 18:28 |
kim0 | jahil1: that might help you dynamically configure an instance as it boots | 18:28 |
thesheff17_ | yes | 18:28 |
jahil1 | not really i saw in your blog | 18:28 |
kim0 | jahil1: the idea is not to build a different AMI every time you need some different website | 18:29 |
kim0 | jahil1: instead you supply instructions to the VM as it boots, on how to "Set itself up" | 18:29 |
jahil1 | is it like user-data script for aws? | 18:29 |
kim0 | jahil1: cloud-init is built on top of user-data | 18:30 |
kim0 | with it .. you can install software, import ssh keys, run random scripts, install boot jobs ...etc | 18:30 |
kim0 | jahil1: what is different between the different images you create | 18:31 |
kim0 | I mean is it only a few php files for example | 18:31 |
jahil1 | not really for some projects we need ruby/rail stack - for some lamp and sometime django | 18:32 |
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kim0 | jahil1: while those might seem "too different" it probably isn't | 18:32 |
kim0 | just a few different packages installed | 18:33 |
kim0 | If you're interested in exploring modularizing and automating your workflow, I'd help | 18:33 |
jahil1 | can you give me some hints what we can do with cloud-init where user-date cannot do it | 18:34 |
kim0 | jahil1: how exactly are you using user-data now | 18:36 |
gfmty | hello | 18:38 |
kim0 | gfmty: howdy | 18:38 |
gfmty | I would like to know about UEC pricing | 18:38 |
kim0 | hmm | 18:38 |
kim0 | not my speciality, but I'll try to help | 18:38 |
jahil1 | we have base images for different distributions while creating instance we provide user-data to make our lives easy | 18:39 |
kim0 | nijaba: might be able to help too I think | 18:39 |
gfmty | currently we're using aws but would like to try uec | 18:39 |
gfmty | but I can't find pricing info in the website like aws | 18:39 |
kim0 | gfmty: UEC is free to download and use | 18:40 |
kim0 | are you asking about support ? or just usage | 18:40 |
jahil1 | we also have some custom repositories for legacy packages which current distro's dont have like php 5.1 etc | 18:40 |
kim0 | jahil1: well if you're running custom scripts to configure everything. Well, custom scripts can do everything indeed, cloud-init is just a cleaner more modular way to enfore customizations | 18:41 |
kim0 | smoser might have some comments on the topic as well | 18:41 |
kim0 | gfmty: is that ok? | 18:42 |
gfmty | what I mean is, in aws you pay hourly for a determinated instance type, so I would like to know what instance types and pricing is available at UEC | 18:43 |
kim0 | gfmty: you do understand that you run UEC on your own hardware right ? so there is no one else to pay :) | 18:43 |
kim0 | gfmty: if you are the provider, you can put your own custom payment rules | 18:44 |
gfmty | oh I see | 18:45 |
gfmty | that helps | 18:45 |
kim0 | cool :) | 18:45 |
gfmty | thanks kim0 | 18:45 |
kim0 | most welcome | 18:45 |
gfmty | have a great day | 18:45 |
kim0 | you too | 18:45 |
Kyle__ | kim0: So two different networks minimum, one for the nodes that run the cluster, and one "public" network for the vms to be accessed on? | 18:47 |
Kyle__ | (sorry was AFK) | 18:47 |
kim0 | np | 18:47 |
kim0 | Kyle__: yeah that makes sense to me | 18:47 |
kim0 | Kyle__: knowing that CLC DNATs connections back n forth, they'd have to be different subnets | 18:48 |
kim0 | Kyle__: note that I'm talking about the default networking mode | 18:48 |
kim0 | there are other modes, but then they aren't very well supported | 18:48 |
Kyle__ | kim0: Ah. So I need to use a different network if I wont this to work right? | 18:48 |
kim0 | Kyle__: yeah, just plug all nodes into a switch :) | 18:49 |
kim0 | CLC should plug into both networks | 18:49 |
* kim0 is no UEC expert, just trying to be helpful :) | 18:49 | |
Kyle__ | Hey, I'm far from expert myself, hence why I'm here. | 18:50 |
kim0 | hehe | 18:52 |
kim0 | Kyle__: what are you building with UEC | 18:52 |
Kyle__ | kim0: a test-cluster, for students to experience using a cloud. | 18:55 |
kim0 | Kyle__: sounds great! | 18:56 |
kim0 | Kyle__: are you guys teaching something that relates t ocloud | 18:57 |
Kyle__ | kim0: Seminar class in cloud computing. Covered mapreduce, movign towards proper clouds, then letting the students loose on projects using one, the other, or both. | 19:00 |
kim0 | Kyle__: might wanna let your students know about Ubuntu Cloud Days https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCloudDays | 19:01 |
kim0 | it's basically IRC sessions about everything cloud/ubuntu | 19:01 |
kim0 | actually, if someone would like to hold a session, I'd be happy to help :) | 19:01 |
Kyle__ | Thank you. Reading now :) | 19:02 |
kim0 | Kyle__: if any of your students would be interested in working on a reallife cloud tool .. read this one too :) http://foss-boss.blogspot.com/2011/03/cloud-python-hackers-wanted.html | 19:04 |
kim0 | again I'd be happy to help get them kickstarted | 19:04 |
Kyle__ | thanks | 19:06 |
kim0 | Kyle__: btw such a tool is bite-sized, so basically quite adequate for someone still starting | 19:07 |
kim0 | awesome, let your students come bug me any time :) | 19:08 |
Kyle__ | Hum. | 19:08 |
kim0 | Kyle__: why the Hum :) | 19:11 |
Kyle__ | Digging through the settings instead of re-installing on my little cluster. | 19:12 |
kim0 | good luck :) | 19:13 |
nijaba | kim0: how can I help? | 19:25 |
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navanjr | what is the trick to getting windows server 2008 running? is it necessary to bundle a bootdisk even if my kernel image boots? | 20:27 |
kim0 | nijaba: nvm, thanks :) | 21:32 |
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