=== erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [00:19] hallyn: another thing, couldn't get audio to work. When using ac97 card, spicec disconnects with "Warning: Invalid mode". When using es1370 card, it boots, and windows update installed its drivers, however still no audio is output [00:19] * kim0 reboots brain [00:26] might be best to update to 0.8 and re-test === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [04:21] kim0, hellos === koolhead17|afk is now known as koolhead17 === niemeyer_ is now known as niemeyer === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [16:29] Does a proper UEC setup need to have two (or more) different subnets? I ask because I have asimple setup, and it _seems_ OK, but I can only connect to the VMs from the master-node of the cloud/cluster. === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === mrjazzcat is now known as mrjazzcat-afk [18:01] Howdy everyone [18:02] Any new members around, feel free to ping me [18:03] Kyle__: hey, so the min setup is 2 machines, which to me means one subnet besides the public network [18:12] is there any training/certification for ubuntu-cloud [18:13] thesheff17_: hey === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [18:14] jahil1: are you looking for professional training [18:14] yes [18:14] yes there is [18:14] let me find the link [18:16] jahil1: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/training/course-descriptions [18:17] scroll down to the bottom [18:17] jahil1: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/training/course-descriptions/deploying-enterprise-cloud [18:18] thanks [18:18] jahil1: are you already using UEC ? [18:19] yes [18:19] we are using it for our development env [18:19] kim0: hello [18:19] thesheff17_: Hi there [18:21] thesheff17_: are you new in #ubuntu-cloud ? [18:21] kim0: this is the first time I have been in this irc chat room but I have been using ubuntu & KVM virtualization for years. [18:21] thesheff17_: ah a guru in disguise :) [18:22] haha [18:22] welcome [18:22] jahil1: I'm interested to learn more about how you're using UEC if that's ok [18:22] sure [18:25] I am systems admin for small tech company located in Chicago....money is tight UEC takes are of using every available resource we own. [18:25] *takes care [18:26] basically we are one of biggest broadcaster in middle east - we normally need short term websites for various competitions promos etc - from our development environment we build our custom ami as per hour need [18:26] thesheff17_: that's great indeed [18:26] One area I'm interested in learning more is if people are running UEC on top of the amazon EC2 cloud just for testing. [18:26] before i was doing manually bootstarop and build ami [18:27] thesheff17_: you mean like http://foss-boss.blogspot.com/2010/10/cloud-on-cloud-uec-on-ec2.html [18:27] jahil1: interesting, I'm based in the middle-east as well :) [18:28] yup [18:28] jahil1: are you familiar with cloud-init [18:28] still ami build process is little bit complicated for thats why i was looking for training [18:28] jahil1: that might help you dynamically configure an instance as it boots [18:28] yes [18:28] not really i saw in your blog [18:29] jahil1: the idea is not to build a different AMI every time you need some different website [18:29] jahil1: instead you supply instructions to the VM as it boots, on how to "Set itself up" [18:29] is it like user-data script for aws? [18:30] jahil1: cloud-init is built on top of user-data [18:30] with it .. you can install software, import ssh keys, run random scripts, install boot jobs ...etc [18:31] jahil1: what is different between the different images you create [18:31] I mean is it only a few php files for example [18:32] not really for some projects we need ruby/rail stack - for some lamp and sometime django === mrjazzcat-afk is now known as mrjazzcat [18:32] jahil1: while those might seem "too different" it probably isn't [18:33] just a few different packages installed [18:33] If you're interested in exploring modularizing and automating your workflow, I'd help [18:34] can you give me some hints what we can do with cloud-init where user-date cannot do it [18:36] jahil1: how exactly are you using user-data now [18:38] hello [18:38] gfmty: howdy [18:38] I would like to know about UEC pricing [18:38] hmm [18:38] not my speciality, but I'll try to help [18:39] we have base images for different distributions while creating instance we provide user-data to make our lives easy [18:39] nijaba: might be able to help too I think [18:39] currently we're using aws but would like to try uec [18:39] but I can't find pricing info in the website like aws [18:40] gfmty: UEC is free to download and use [18:40] are you asking about support ? or just usage [18:40] we also have some custom repositories for legacy packages which current distro's dont have like php 5.1 etc [18:41] jahil1: well if you're running custom scripts to configure everything. Well, custom scripts can do everything indeed, cloud-init is just a cleaner more modular way to enfore customizations [18:41] smoser might have some comments on the topic as well [18:42] gfmty: is that ok? [18:43] what I mean is, in aws you pay hourly for a determinated instance type, so I would like to know what instance types and pricing is available at UEC [18:43] gfmty: you do understand that you run UEC on your own hardware right ? so there is no one else to pay :) [18:44] gfmty: if you are the provider, you can put your own custom payment rules [18:45] oh I see [18:45] that helps [18:45] cool :) [18:45] thanks kim0 [18:45] most welcome [18:45] have a great day [18:45] you too [18:47] kim0: So two different networks minimum, one for the nodes that run the cluster, and one "public" network for the vms to be accessed on? [18:47] (sorry was AFK) [18:47] np [18:47] Kyle__: yeah that makes sense to me [18:48] Kyle__: knowing that CLC DNATs connections back n forth, they'd have to be different subnets [18:48] Kyle__: note that I'm talking about the default networking mode [18:48] there are other modes, but then they aren't very well supported [18:48] kim0: Ah. So I need to use a different network if I wont this to work right? [18:49] Kyle__: yeah, just plug all nodes into a switch :) [18:49] CLC should plug into both networks [18:49] * kim0 is no UEC expert, just trying to be helpful :) [18:50] Hey, I'm far from expert myself, hence why I'm here. [18:52] hehe [18:52] Kyle__: what are you building with UEC [18:55] kim0: a test-cluster, for students to experience using a cloud. [18:56] Kyle__: sounds great! [18:57] Kyle__: are you guys teaching something that relates t ocloud [19:00] kim0: Seminar class in cloud computing. Covered mapreduce, movign towards proper clouds, then letting the students loose on projects using one, the other, or both. [19:01] Kyle__: might wanna let your students know about Ubuntu Cloud Days https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCloudDays [19:01] it's basically IRC sessions about everything cloud/ubuntu [19:01] actually, if someone would like to hold a session, I'd be happy to help :) [19:02] Thank you. Reading now :) [19:04] Kyle__: if any of your students would be interested in working on a reallife cloud tool .. read this one too :) http://foss-boss.blogspot.com/2011/03/cloud-python-hackers-wanted.html [19:04] again I'd be happy to help get them kickstarted [19:06] thanks [19:07] Kyle__: btw such a tool is bite-sized, so basically quite adequate for someone still starting [19:08] awesome, let your students come bug me any time :) [19:08] Hum. [19:11] Kyle__: why the Hum :) [19:12] Digging through the settings instead of re-installing on my little cluster. [19:13] good luck :) [19:25] kim0: how can I help? === mrjazzcat is now known as mrjazzcat-mtg [20:27] what is the trick to getting windows server 2008 running? is it necessary to bundle a bootdisk even if my kernel image boots? [21:32] nijaba: nvm, thanks :) === niemeyer is now known as niemeyer_away === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates