[00:13] bonsoir [00:13] bonsoir [01:42] je suis encore sur mon histoire de can avec slcan [01:42] ça ne marche toujours pas, il a une chose que je n'ai pas compris. Comment un module fait pour démarrer au démarrage? [01:43] j'ai ajouté un fichier slcan.ko dans //lib/modules/2.6.32-21-generic-pae/socketcan/slcan.ko [01:43] un / de trop [01:43] ensuite, j'ai fait depmod -a [01:44] au démarrage, je dois obligatoirement faire modprobe slcan pour le voir dans la liste des modules [01:44] et je ne vois toujours pas mon matériel can :( [01:45] et la plus part des tutoriaux que je trouve, c'est sur du canusb, moi j'ai une carte isa [01:53] mathben: la plupart des modules se font chargé à partir du concept d'"alias" [01:56] deux sec. j'essaie de trouver l'info, mais le site est lent à répondre.... [01:58] merci [02:01] ah pis zut... je suis même pas certain où ça s'en allait [02:02] mathben: le plus simple est peut-être bien d'ajouter le nom du module au fichier /etc/modules [02:08] deuxpi: merci, ça marche [02:08] (même si mon problème initial n'est pas résolu ^^) [02:16] deuxpi: c'est quoi un fichier ko? est-ce qu'un fichier ko peut contenir d'autre fichier ko? [02:18] ko = kernel object, je crois [02:18] où "object" veut essentiellement dire code binaire [02:19] peut-être qu'un fichier ko peut fournir plus qu'un module [02:43] non, un module c'est un module (une fichier) [02:43] aprés, qu'un module convient à plusieurs materiel, c'est possible [02:54] oki, merci ! [03:20] c'est pas bien cette commande : cat /dev/cpu0 [03:25] ha, c'est juste sur arch linux :o [15:24] hey MagicFab [15:30] cyphermox, salut! [15:31] highvoltage, nice pics :) [15:32] IdleOne, Mobidoy_, sipherdee, deuxpi, avoine, moustafa o/ [15:32] MagicFab: Yo [15:33] Good morning [15:33] * MagicFab -> back from +3 days of flu + gastro [15:34] MagicFab: :) [15:34] MagicFab: ouch! [15:35] I *need* an Android tablet to keep up :D [15:35] I keep telling myself that too. [15:39] J'ai une question pour les "réguliers' ici - j'aimerais passer le flambeau de "team contact Québec" à quelqu'un. [15:39] je pensais à demander aux intérressés de se postuler sur le wiki, puis ensuite on pourrait procéder à un vote (pas sur Launchpad, mais un autre mécanisme)... [15:40] amorphous1, avoine cyphermox deuxpi highvoltage IdleOne Lrrr_ Mobidoy_ moustafa nekohayo sipherdee starcraftman stgraber txwikinger ^ [15:40] j'aimerais avoir votre avis avant d'en parler sur la liste [15:41] perso j'ai pas d'avis particulier excepté que je vais probablement pas postuler pour la présidence ;P [15:41] MagicFab: yeah I guess it would have to be someone who can at least speak half-decent French so it won't be me :) [15:42] highvoltage, y u no French courses ? [15:42] :) [15:42] * txwikinger ne parle pas fracais aussi [15:43] I won't be adding myself but I would nominate either Mobidoy_, cyphermox or moustafa [15:43] txwikinger, highvoltage your opininon as regulars here is appreciated nonetheless [15:43] MagicFab, yep, condorcet voting [15:43] MagicFab: c'est intéressant [15:44] oh! deuxpi also [15:44] ok, so cyphermox just volunteered to manage the voting, good :) [15:44] hahaha [15:44] rofl [15:44] IdleOne is taking care of nominations, excellent [15:45] MagicFab, huh, no. I volunteered to point someone to manage the voting [15:45] I can't manage the voting if I'm a nomination ;) [15:45] nominations are done. I gave 4 [15:45] anyways, we can't only do this here, as you know many people/members never come here. I need some more opinions on how to proceed. [15:46] * MagicFab reads http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condorcet_criterion [15:46] launchpad voting is anonymous.. I don't think it makes any difference who sets it up [15:46] mhhh tldr [15:46] did they re-add polls to LP? [15:46] LP voting is disabled now, isn't it ? [15:46] I thought they got removed [15:46] txwikinger, it's more about how it deals with polls and votes than whether it's anonymous [15:46] oh.. did not know they disabled it [15:46] MagicFab: I read something about them maybe being enabled [15:47] * txwikinger wonders why lp has ever been open sourced.. nobody wants to do anything with it anyway [15:47] Seems to be there: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-qc/+newpoll (for admins) [15:47] but condorcet has been used for IRCC elections so... [15:47] txwikinger, "can't afford not to" :) [15:47] IdleOne, right. and a few other cases for other elections [15:48] MagicFab: ask akgraner or elky about them. they have experience with condorcet [15:48] MagicFab: I put it in the category "irrelevant" [15:48] txwikinger, depends. Some governments don't. [15:48] so, MagicFab you'll write something up for the list? [15:48] I also re-nominate MagicFab , he's been doing a great job :) [15:49] that is 5 nominations [15:49] Yeah.. I just mean on the point of feasibility.. I have deleted all the launchpad stuff I put on my laptop at lucid UDS [15:49] Never did anything with it [15:50] first start with an email to the list, ask people to nominate themselves or to nominate someone, give that a week or two. then create poll, give people two weeks to vote. [15:50] * txwikinger seconds IdleOne's suggestion [15:50] yeah, sounds like a great plan [15:51] I would also detail what being "team contact" entails [15:51] all my ideas are great, if I had any will to execute my ideas I would be rich today :) [15:52] hmm.. not sure if you get rich by being an Ubuntu LoCo contact [15:52] MagicFab: can I ask why you decided to give up the position? [15:52] * txwikinger would be twice rich otherwise [15:52] txwikinger, I see your point [15:52] txwikinger: well not all my ideas would make me rich but all my ideas are great :P [15:53] txwikinger, it's actually the other way around :) [15:54] btw someone should take notes and add this "meeting" to the team reports [15:54] * IdleOne is on a roll with the ideas today [15:54] I better go take a nap before I burn out lol [15:54] yeah [15:55] IdleOne, I'd love to become a regular user again - and having another face there would be nice IMO. [15:55] * txwikinger needs to gain an hour of sleep in advance of the stupid DST coming up [15:55] MagicFab: sounds good. [15:55] naps are good [15:55] txwikinger, :D [15:56] IdleOne, this is logged AFAIK so no need for notes - not informal, just asking the regular IRC people, whose opinions I value a lot. [15:56] Uh.. just started snowing again [15:57] What does the team contact do anyway? [15:57] besides being a rock star like MagicFab [15:57] Depends on the group [15:58] In one LoCo I am facilitating merely the communication between the LoCo and Ubuntu/LoCo Council/Canonical/new users [15:58] In the other LoCo I am very busy organising stuff [15:59] * deuxpi lit les 72 pages de backlog... bon matin ! [15:59] Allo deuxpi [15:59] yeah, seems like it would be opposite of what I need to be doing. [15:59] deuxpi, salut [15:59] bonjour Mr. deuxpi. [16:00] Est-ce que deuxpi = 6.28.... ? [16:00] * IdleOne needs to distance himself from the computer some [16:00] IdleOne, sit farther :D [16:00] cyphermox: tried that but my keyboard wire is very long [16:00] bluetooth keyboards and mice are great for that :) [16:01] txwikinger: yep... old nick I got when doing my physics degree :) [16:01] IdleOne, my role has been different as I saw the team get from zero to today. Next contact would probably need to focus on events/delegating [16:01] I don't like wireless peripherals [16:01] that's a good question [16:01] deuxpi: cool [16:01] txwikinger, you're contact for -ca no ? [16:01] MagicFab: yes [16:02] and Kubuntu-de.org [16:02] * MagicFab realizes how that illustrates the "distance" between -ca and -qc :) [16:02] pfew at least I knew that one :D [16:03] I think the distance between -ca and -qc is mostly cultural [16:03] but -qc still likes -ca [16:03] MagicFab: Yeah.. -ca and -qc should do more stuff together [16:03] long as you guys don't put up any English signs [16:03] :P [16:04] agreed - right now I can't helpmuch there [16:04] * txwikinger is an immigrant who has no stakes in the language wars [16:04] IdleOne, Y U NO LIKE SPANISH !?@!! [16:04] :) [16:04] I love spanish [16:04] * txwikinger proposes German as the new ond only Canadian official language :p [16:04] I speak Spanish as often as I can [16:05] * txwikinger habla un poquito d'espanol [16:05] mandarin +1 :) [16:06] heck I learned to speak Spanish when I lived in the US [16:06] IdleOne: We can out up anything in French too as long as y'all translate it.. I just do not speak French well enough to do that [16:06] s/out/put/ [16:07] I have no problem with French or English. One of the many benefits of having grown up in QC [16:07] txwikinger: yea, it takes time. [16:07] Well.. English is already my second language even I would call it my first one nowadays [16:08] And the Ontarian government is very discriminatory :D [16:08] IdleOne: i grew up in quebec, qc and i must say that my english could be better. it's more of a montreal thing than quebec. :) [16:09] When we immigrated we wanted to have French language classes from the immigration centre, but they only provided English which we did not need [16:09] txwikinger: wow... :( [16:09] sipherdee: I guess you are right about that, it is a regional thing but there are more French people who speak English in QC than there are English people who speak French in the rest of Canada. [16:10] IdleOne: That is not truwe [16:10] percentage wise [16:10] sheer numbers maybe not [16:10] We have 2 French school distrcits here [16:10] And 2 English ones [16:11] Did you folks hear that QC wants to force students who went to French high school to go to French CEGEP. [16:11] As I am told there is a group of French Ontarians here that btw. do not speak Quebequois ;) [16:11] they say that too many students are going to English CEGEP [16:12] what is CEGEP? college? [16:12] txwikinger: I own a home in Lancaster and the majority of the people in that town speak French. [16:12] yes [16:12] college [16:12] Well.. the majority of people in this town here used to speak German [16:12] that is stupid... this kind of crap is what fuels the language war. [16:13] sipherdee: exactly [16:13] When a person reaches college they have to pay for it, they should be allowed to chose what they are paying for. [16:13] * txwikinger thinks it is better to speak more languages than less [16:13] txwikinger: that is why I speak 4 [16:14] IdleOne: cool [16:14] * txwikinger does not have the time to keep current with all 4 languages he has learned [16:14] sipherdee, pls. tone down. I'd suggest that if this off-topic goes for too long, you guys move it to, well, #ubuntu-offtopic - or else [16:14] I think sipherdee was agreeing with me [16:15] but yeah we better change the subject [16:15] I think this is a discussion of how to bring -ca and -qc closer [16:15] yes, i did. but let's move on. :) [16:15] IdleOne, I agree. No need for name-calling or else. Out of context (like just happened to me), someone new here may be offended. [16:15] MagicFab: agreed [16:16] just keep the CoC in mind.. and any new users here who may not come here for such display of arguments :) [16:16] * txwikinger needs to get back to work anyway [16:16] txwikinger: don't work too much, boss expects it all the time if you do. [16:16] txwikinger, thanks for hanging around btw - anyone interested in getting both LoCos close should also hang out on #ubuntu-ca [16:17] IdleOne: txwikinger is my boss [16:17] haha in that case ask him for a raise [16:17] lol [16:17] IdleOne: I do all the time.. he always says no [16:18] MagicFab: i came here in regards to the team contact vote. i will follow this closely. [16:18] btw.. in regards to working closer together [16:19] Have y'all any plans for Global Jam? We probably have an event on Saturday [16:20] I think Mobidoy_ and cyphermox are working on something [16:20] not sure [16:20] Yes... we received a proposition for a location by the DevLab guys [16:20] during the GeekFest event :) [16:20] cyphermox, aviez-vous une table au geekfest finallement ? J'attends le rapport :) [16:21] rapport ?!? [16:21] deuxpi, devlab people are great - met them last month [16:21] actually, it didn't quite happen that way, but I thought devLab was a nice group to deal with for stuff like the global jam [16:21] bon bon... je paraphrasais ;) [16:21] deuxpi, ben oui, un petit message pour au moins dire ce qui s'est passé sur la liste ou un blog post.. question d'en intéresser d'autres :) [16:21] MagicFab, j'écris une entrée de blogue tantot, ce midi [16:21] rapport!!?? :) [16:22] hein, rapport? [16:22] cyphermox, +1 [16:22] last year: http://www.actionti.com/accueil/octas/octas-2011 [16:22] ooops [16:22] avec un peu de chance on aura même du monde du geekfest pour venir au hour ce soir [16:22] --> http://idle-one.blogspot.com/2010/03/geekfest-montreal.html [16:23] je peux mettre à jour le wiki ce midi [16:24] https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/view?uname=magicfab&isOwner=true&tags=Geekfest# [16:24] ok, gotta go - merci pour les idées [16:24] ...à suivre [16:24] alright... [16:26] I didn't know my little blog post was a report [16:26] hehe [16:27] j'ai pas fini d'éditer mes photos, mais ça s'en vient [16:29] btw guys, sorry I didn't make it to geekfest (I said I would be there) but things came up and I just wasn't able to come help you folks. [16:52] IdleOne: i hope to see you again soon. maybe at the ubuntu hour in the next weeks... [17:00] deuxpi, don't mind if I put your name in my blog post? [17:01] Mobidoy, même question, ca te dérange si je met ton nom dans mon article sur le blog? [17:01] ca sera sur planet.ubuntu.com [17:02] sipherdee, ^ même question [17:04] cyphermox: pas de problème [17:05] no problemo [17:06] j'avais déjà [17:07] écrit un petit billet, mais c'était pas tout à fait "wrap up"/rapport [17:09] cyphermox: pas de problème! [17:10] ok [17:10] bien que je considère que ma contribution a été minimale mais j'ai appris à vous connaître un peu plus et vu comment vous vous adressez aux gens. je suis content d'être passé! [17:10] moi je met pas mal de tout, en résumé. [17:10] sipherdee, cool, ca fait plaisir que tu sois passé [17:14] did cyphermox kiss everybody who stopped at the table again this year? [17:14] o_O [17:16] IdleOne: yes, the usual... [17:16] hehe [17:17] IdleOne, kiss? you clearly weren't aware of *everything* :) [17:17] deuxpi: se demande pourquoi ya pas eu de bec [17:17] :P [17:17] yes, there was a fur contest on sunday. [17:17] fur contest? [17:18] I don't think I want to know [17:18] IdleOne, uh... a furry contest [17:18] I was trying to attract people (to me) with World of Goo, but I see I failed :) [17:18] what is that? [17:18] oops, hehe. [17:18] furries? [17:18] yeah [17:19] world of goo was really popular! [17:20] I still don't know what a furry contest is [17:20] i am looking for pictures. [17:20] IdleOne, people in full-body animal suits [17:20] oh [17:20] e.g. a big cat or bear or whatever [17:21] anyway, blog post preview: http://blog.cyphermox.net/b/post-preview?token=DH5XnS4BAAA.lmBt851MotVqri-ih8yLpA.AUeVh1W6rMr1m6vpFYYi5w&postId=5648806569540012372&type=POST [17:24] looks good but the link to picasa does not work [17:25] oh, it's a preview. does that make a difference? [17:25] works for me... [17:26] it's plain text here. no link [17:27] yes, same thing for me with mozilla firefox. [17:28] actually none of the links on the page work for me [17:31] idem. [18:42] o_O la première phrase sur le site ubuntu-qc.org présuppose que tous les systèmes viennent nécéssairement avec Windows ou Mac OS préinstallé [18:52] deuxpi, on peut surement le changer [18:53] :) [19:00] deuxpi, le header du site est trop orange aussi [19:02] orange ? [19:02] si je compare à loco.ubuntu.com, il a l'air plus clair effectivement [19:03] ouais [19:05] whoah et le système de commentaires est spammé à mort [19:14] en gros, le site a l'ai abandonné... :( [19:14] s/ai/air/ [19:33] bon, modem cable remplacé [19:33] en principe je devrais déconner moins souvent :) [19:35] si c'était permis par hydro-québec, j'aurais un système avec un backup par panneau solaire :) [19:40] c'est pas permis? [19:40] j'étais certain que oui [19:40] ca te prend une installation spéciale bien sûr mais tu peux avoir de bons rabais [19:46] c'est que si il y a une panne d'hydro, on est obligé de couper l'output des panneaux [19:46] il faut pas fournir sur le réseau quand le réseau est en panne [19:47] pour ce qui est des rabais, on devrait avoir 100% rabais :) [19:55] ah... [19:55] mais normalement tu devrais avoir un transfer switch qui permet justement de pas fournir sur le réseau en panne [19:56] ouais, mais $$$ :) [19:56] ouais... mais bon, y'a des avantages [19:56] effectivement [19:56] no such thing as a free lunch [19:57] deux gars sur un channel d'OS libre qui se disent ça ;) [19:57] si ca t'intéresse, c'est pas spécifique à Hydro, mais Dustin Kirkland a sur son blog les détails de son setup pour des panneaux solaires [19:57] je devrais blogger là dessus aussi, c'est très geek :) [19:57] rofl [19:58] Kirkland a même packagé les outils de collecte de données pour Ubuntu... j'ai du chemin à faire [20:00] ok... Montréal c'est pas Austin non plus [23:12] en direct de l'heure Ubuntu de Longueuil :D [23:14] Good Bonne soirée :) Je te souhaite de la visite :) [23:15] Mobidoy, on verra bien :) [23:15] au pire je continue a coder sur nm-applet, je fais un gros cleanup et retravail de ma patch pour l'inclure upstream [23:17] Mobidoy, lui, il se porte bien? [23:20] Oui, encore sur le dos pour +/- 40 heures mais ca va... C'est pls long qu'autre chose lol... [23:23] ouin [23:23] Mobidoy, c'est pour ca que c'est pratique un laptop [23:24] juste 24 heures quand j'ai fait mon apendicite, j'étais en train de devenir fou... par contre après j'ai passé un mois à la maison à gosser sur Ubuntu :D [23:27] apendicite, c'est pire qe moi ca lol.... moi c'est juste un minime trou dans la colonne pour reeuillir du liquide... [23:30] bah bah bah, c'est pas si pire, j'suis pas mourru [23:32] roflf [23:39] ProfNoel, bonsoir [23:39] Allo cyphermox