[00:13] <mathben> bonsoir
[00:13] <d2_racing> bonsoir
[01:42] <mathben> je suis encore sur mon histoire de can avec slcan
[01:42] <mathben> ça ne marche toujours pas, il a une chose que je n'ai pas compris. Comment un module fait pour démarrer au démarrage?
[01:43] <mathben> j'ai ajouté un fichier slcan.ko dans //lib/modules/2.6.32-21-generic-pae/socketcan/slcan.ko
[01:43] <mathben> un / de trop
[01:43] <mathben> ensuite, j'ai fait depmod -a
[01:44] <mathben> au démarrage, je dois obligatoirement faire modprobe slcan pour le voir dans la liste des modules
[01:44] <mathben> et je ne vois toujours pas mon matériel can :(
[01:45] <mathben> et la plus part des tutoriaux que je trouve, c'est sur du canusb, moi j'ai une carte isa
[01:53] <deuxpi> mathben: la plupart des modules se font chargé à partir du concept d'"alias"
[01:56] <deuxpi> deux sec. j'essaie de trouver l'info, mais le site est lent à répondre....
[01:58] <mathben> merci
[02:01] <deuxpi> ah pis zut... je suis même pas certain où ça s'en allait
[02:02] <deuxpi> mathben: le plus simple est peut-être bien d'ajouter le nom du module au fichier /etc/modules
[02:08] <mathben> deuxpi: merci, ça marche
[02:08] <mathben> (même si mon problème initial n'est pas résolu ^^)
[02:16] <mathben> deuxpi: c'est quoi un fichier ko? est-ce qu'un fichier ko peut contenir d'autre fichier ko?
[02:18] <deuxpi> ko = kernel object, je crois
[02:18] <deuxpi> où "object" veut essentiellement dire code binaire
[02:19] <deuxpi> peut-être qu'un fichier ko peut fournir plus qu'un module
[02:43] <Musashimaru> non, un module c'est un module (une fichier)
[02:43] <Musashimaru> aprés, qu'un module convient à plusieurs materiel, c'est possible
[02:54] <deuxpi> oki, merci !
[03:20] <mathben> c'est pas bien cette commande : cat /dev/cpu0
[03:25] <mathben> ha, c'est juste sur arch linux :o
[15:24] <cyphermox> hey MagicFab 
[15:30] <MagicFab> cyphermox, salut!
[15:31] <MagicFab> highvoltage, nice pics :)
[15:32] <MagicFab> IdleOne, Mobidoy_, sipherdee, deuxpi, avoine, moustafa  o/
[15:32] <moustafa> MagicFab: Yo
[15:33] <IdleOne> Good morning
[15:33]  * MagicFab -> back from +3 days of flu + gastro
[15:34] <highvoltage> MagicFab: :)
[15:34] <highvoltage> MagicFab: ouch!
[15:35] <MagicFab> I *need* an Android tablet to keep up :D
[15:35] <highvoltage> I keep telling myself that too.
[15:39] <MagicFab> J'ai une question pour les "réguliers' ici - j'aimerais passer le flambeau de "team contact Québec" à quelqu'un.
[15:39] <MagicFab> je pensais à demander aux intérressés de se postuler sur le wiki, puis ensuite on pourrait procéder à un vote (pas sur Launchpad, mais un autre mécanisme)...
[15:40] <MagicFab> amorphous1, avoine cyphermox deuxpi highvoltage IdleOne Lrrr_ Mobidoy_ moustafa nekohayo sipherdee starcraftman stgraber txwikinger ^
[15:40] <MagicFab> j'aimerais avoir votre avis avant d'en parler sur la liste
[15:41] <nekohayo> perso j'ai pas d'avis particulier excepté que je vais probablement pas postuler pour la présidence ;P
[15:41] <highvoltage> MagicFab: yeah I guess it would have to be someone who can at least speak half-decent French so it won't be me :)
[15:42] <MagicFab> highvoltage, y u no French courses ?
[15:42] <MagicFab> :)
[15:42]  * txwikinger ne parle pas fracais aussi
[15:43] <IdleOne> I won't be adding myself but I would nominate either Mobidoy_, cyphermox or moustafa 
[15:43] <MagicFab> txwikinger, highvoltage your opininon as regulars here is appreciated nonetheless
[15:43] <cyphermox> MagicFab, yep, condorcet voting
[15:43] <avoine> MagicFab: c'est intéressant
[15:44] <IdleOne> oh! deuxpi  also
[15:44] <MagicFab> ok, so cyphermox just volunteered to manage the voting, good :)
[15:44] <IdleOne> hahaha
[15:44] <txwikinger> rofl
[15:44] <MagicFab> IdleOne is taking care of nominations, excellent
[15:45] <cyphermox> MagicFab, huh, no. I volunteered to point someone to manage the voting
[15:45] <cyphermox> I can't manage the voting if I'm a nomination ;)
[15:45] <IdleOne> nominations are done. I gave 4
[15:45] <MagicFab> anyways, we can't only do this here, as you know many people/members never come here. I need some more opinions on how to proceed.
[15:46]  * MagicFab reads http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condorcet_criterion
[15:46] <txwikinger> launchpad voting is anonymous.. I don't think it makes any difference who sets it up
[15:46] <MagicFab> mhhh tldr
[15:46] <IdleOne> did they re-add polls to LP?
[15:46] <MagicFab> LP voting is disabled now, isn't it ?
[15:46] <IdleOne> I thought they got removed
[15:46] <cyphermox> txwikinger, it's more about how it deals with polls and votes than whether it's anonymous
[15:46] <txwikinger> oh.. did not know they disabled it
[15:46] <IdleOne> MagicFab: I read something about them maybe being enabled
[15:47]  * txwikinger wonders why lp has ever been open sourced.. nobody wants to do anything with it anyway
[15:47] <MagicFab> Seems to be there: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-qc/+newpoll (for admins)
[15:47] <IdleOne> but condorcet has been used for IRCC elections so...
[15:47] <MagicFab> txwikinger, "can't afford not to" :)
[15:47] <cyphermox> IdleOne, right. and a few other cases for other elections
[15:48] <IdleOne> MagicFab: ask akgraner or elky about them. they have experience with condorcet
[15:48] <txwikinger> MagicFab: I put it in the category "irrelevant"
[15:48] <MagicFab> txwikinger, depends. Some governments don't.
[15:48] <cyphermox> so, MagicFab you'll write something up for the list?
[15:48] <cyphermox> I also re-nominate MagicFab , he's been doing a great job :)
[15:49] <IdleOne> that is 5 nominations 
[15:49] <txwikinger> Yeah.. I just mean on the point of feasibility.. I have deleted all the launchpad stuff I put on my laptop at lucid UDS
[15:49] <txwikinger> Never did anything with it
[15:50] <IdleOne> first start with an email to the list, ask people to nominate themselves or to nominate someone, give that a week or two. then create poll, give people two weeks to vote.
[15:50]  * txwikinger seconds IdleOne's suggestion
[15:50] <cyphermox> yeah, sounds like a great plan
[15:51] <IdleOne> I would also detail what being "team contact" entails
[15:51] <IdleOne> all my ideas are great, if I had any will to execute my ideas I would be rich today :)
[15:52] <txwikinger> hmm.. not sure if you get rich by being an Ubuntu LoCo contact
[15:52] <IdleOne> MagicFab: can I ask why you decided to give up the position?
[15:52]  * txwikinger would be twice rich otherwise
[15:52] <MagicFab> txwikinger, I see your point
[15:52] <IdleOne> txwikinger: well not all my ideas would make me rich but all my ideas are great :P
[15:53] <MagicFab> txwikinger, it's actually the other way around :)
[15:54] <IdleOne> btw someone should take notes and add this "meeting" to the team reports 
[15:54]  * IdleOne is on a roll with the ideas today
[15:54] <IdleOne> I better go take a nap before I burn out lol
[15:54] <cyphermox> yeah
[15:55] <MagicFab> IdleOne, I'd love to become a regular user again - and having another face there would be nice IMO.
[15:55]  * txwikinger needs to gain an hour of sleep in advance of the stupid DST coming up
[15:55] <IdleOne> MagicFab: sounds good.
[15:55] <MagicFab> naps are good
[15:55] <MagicFab> txwikinger, :D
[15:56] <MagicFab> IdleOne, this is logged AFAIK so no need for notes - not informal, just asking the regular IRC people, whose opinions I value a lot.
[15:56] <txwikinger> Uh.. just started snowing again
[15:57] <IdleOne> What does the team contact do anyway?
[15:57] <IdleOne> besides being a rock star like MagicFab 
[15:57] <txwikinger> Depends on the group
[15:58] <txwikinger> In one LoCo I am facilitating merely the communication between the LoCo and Ubuntu/LoCo Council/Canonical/new users
[15:58] <txwikinger> In the other LoCo I am very busy organising stuff 
[15:59]  * deuxpi lit les 72 pages de backlog... bon matin !
[15:59] <txwikinger> Allo deuxpi
[15:59] <IdleOne> yeah, seems like it would be opposite of what I need to be doing.
[15:59] <cyphermox> deuxpi, salut
[15:59] <IdleOne> bonjour Mr. deuxpi.
[16:00] <txwikinger> Est-ce que deuxpi = 6.28.... ?
[16:00]  * IdleOne needs to distance himself from the computer some
[16:00] <cyphermox> IdleOne, sit farther :D
[16:00] <IdleOne> cyphermox: tried that but my keyboard wire is very long
[16:00] <cyphermox> bluetooth keyboards and mice are great for that :)
[16:01] <deuxpi> txwikinger: yep... old nick I got when doing my physics degree :)
[16:01] <MagicFab> IdleOne, my role has been different as I saw the team get from zero to today. Next contact would probably need to focus on events/delegating 
[16:01] <IdleOne> I don't like wireless peripherals
[16:01] <MagicFab> that's a good question
[16:01] <txwikinger> deuxpi: cool
[16:01] <MagicFab> txwikinger, you're contact for -ca no ?
[16:01] <txwikinger> MagicFab: yes
[16:02] <txwikinger> and Kubuntu-de.org
[16:02]  * MagicFab realizes how that illustrates the "distance" between -ca and -qc :)
[16:02] <MagicFab> pfew at least I knew that one :D
[16:03] <IdleOne> I think the distance between -ca and -qc is mostly cultural
[16:03] <IdleOne> but -qc still likes -ca
[16:03] <txwikinger> MagicFab: Yeah.. -ca and -qc should do more stuff  together
[16:03] <IdleOne> long as you guys don't put up any English signs 
[16:03] <IdleOne> :P
[16:04] <MagicFab> agreed - right now I can't helpmuch there
[16:04]  * txwikinger is an immigrant who has no stakes in the language wars
[16:04] <MagicFab> IdleOne, Y U NO LIKE SPANISH !?@!!
[16:04] <MagicFab> :)
[16:04] <IdleOne> I love spanish
[16:04]  * txwikinger proposes German as the new ond only Canadian official language :p
[16:04] <IdleOne> I speak Spanish as often as I can
[16:05]  * txwikinger habla un poquito d'espanol
[16:05] <deuxpi> mandarin +1 :)
[16:06] <IdleOne> heck I learned to speak Spanish when I lived in the US
[16:06] <txwikinger> IdleOne: We can out up anything in French too as long as y'all translate it.. I just do not speak French well enough to do that
[16:06] <txwikinger> s/out/put/
[16:07] <IdleOne> I have no problem with French or English. One of the many benefits of having grown up in QC
[16:07] <sipherdee> txwikinger: yea, it takes time.
[16:07] <txwikinger> Well.. English is already my second language even I would call it my first one nowadays
[16:08] <txwikinger> And the Ontarian government is very discriminatory :D
[16:08] <sipherdee> IdleOne: i grew up in quebec, qc and i must say that my english could be better.  it's more of a montreal thing than quebec. :)
[16:09] <txwikinger> When we immigrated we wanted to have French language classes from the immigration centre, but they only provided English which we did not need
[16:09] <sipherdee> txwikinger: wow... :(
[16:09] <IdleOne> sipherdee: I guess you are right about that, it is a regional thing but there are more French people who speak English in QC than there are English people who speak French in the rest of Canada.
[16:10] <txwikinger> IdleOne: That is not truwe
[16:10] <IdleOne> percentage wise
[16:10] <IdleOne> sheer numbers maybe not
[16:10] <txwikinger> We have 2 French school distrcits here
[16:10] <txwikinger> And 2 English ones
[16:11] <IdleOne> Did you folks hear that QC wants to force students who went to French high school to go to French CEGEP.
[16:11] <txwikinger> As I am told there is a group of French Ontarians here that btw. do not speak Quebequois ;)
[16:11] <IdleOne> they say that too many students are going to English CEGEP
[16:12] <txwikinger> what is CEGEP? college?
[16:12] <IdleOne> txwikinger: I own a home in Lancaster and the majority of the people in that town speak French.
[16:12] <IdleOne> yes
[16:12] <IdleOne> college
[16:12] <txwikinger> Well.. the majority of people in this town here used to speak German
[16:12] <sipherdee> that is stupid... this kind of crap is what fuels the language war.
[16:13] <IdleOne> sipherdee: exactly
[16:13] <IdleOne> When a person reaches college they have to pay for it, they should be allowed to chose what they are paying for.
[16:13]  * txwikinger thinks it is better to speak more languages than less
[16:13] <IdleOne> txwikinger: that is why I speak 4
[16:14] <txwikinger> IdleOne: cool
[16:14]  * txwikinger does not have the time to keep current with all 4 languages he has learned
[16:14] <MagicFab> sipherdee, pls. tone down. I'd suggest that if this off-topic goes for too long, you guys move it to, well, #ubuntu-offtopic - or else
[16:14] <IdleOne> I think sipherdee was agreeing with me 
[16:15] <IdleOne> but yeah we better change the subject
[16:15] <txwikinger> I think this is a discussion of how to bring -ca and -qc closer
[16:15] <sipherdee> yes, i did.  but let's move on. :)
[16:15] <MagicFab> IdleOne, I agree. No need for name-calling or else. Out of context (like just happened to me), someone new here may be offended.
[16:15] <IdleOne> MagicFab: agreed
[16:16] <MagicFab> just keep the CoC in mind.. and any new users here who may not come here for such display of arguments :)
[16:16]  * txwikinger needs to get back to work anyway
[16:16] <IdleOne> txwikinger: don't work too much, boss expects it all the time if you do.
[16:16] <MagicFab> txwikinger, thanks for hanging around btw - anyone interested in getting both LoCos close should also hang out on #ubuntu-ca
[16:17] <txwikinger> IdleOne: txwikinger is my boss
[16:17] <IdleOne> haha in that case ask him for a raise
[16:17] <IdleOne> lol
[16:17] <txwikinger> IdleOne: I do all the time.. he always says no
[16:18] <sipherdee> MagicFab: i came here in regards to the team contact vote. i will follow this closely.
[16:18] <txwikinger> btw.. in regards to working closer together
[16:19] <txwikinger> Have y'all any plans for Global Jam? We probably have an event on Saturday
[16:20] <IdleOne> I think Mobidoy_ and cyphermox are working on something
[16:20] <IdleOne> not sure
[16:20] <deuxpi> Yes... we received a proposition for a location by the DevLab guys
[16:20] <deuxpi> during the GeekFest event :)
[16:20] <MagicFab> cyphermox, aviez-vous une table au geekfest finallement ? J'attends le rapport :)
[16:21] <deuxpi> rapport ?!?
[16:21] <MagicFab> deuxpi, devlab people are great - met them last month
[16:21] <cyphermox> actually, it didn't quite happen that way, but I thought devLab was a nice group to deal with for stuff like the global jam
[16:21] <deuxpi> bon bon... je paraphrasais ;)
[16:21] <MagicFab> deuxpi, ben oui, un petit message pour au moins dire ce qui s'est passé sur la liste ou un blog post.. question d'en intéresser d'autres :)
[16:21] <cyphermox> MagicFab, j'écris une entrée de blogue tantot, ce midi
[16:21] <MagicFab> rapport!!?? :)
[16:22] <cyphermox> hein, rapport?
[16:22] <MagicFab> cyphermox, +1
[16:22] <MagicFab> last year: http://www.actionti.com/accueil/octas/octas-2011
[16:22] <MagicFab> ooops
[16:22] <cyphermox> avec un peu de chance on aura même du monde du geekfest pour venir au hour ce soir
[16:22] <MagicFab> --> http://idle-one.blogspot.com/2010/03/geekfest-montreal.html
[16:23] <deuxpi> je peux mettre à jour le wiki ce midi
[16:24] <MagicFab> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/view?uname=magicfab&isOwner=true&tags=Geekfest#
[16:24] <MagicFab> ok, gotta go - merci pour les idées
[16:24] <MagicFab> ...à suivre
[16:24] <cyphermox> alright...
[16:26] <IdleOne> I didn't know my little blog post was a report
[16:26] <IdleOne> hehe
[16:27] <deuxpi> j'ai pas fini d'éditer mes photos, mais ça s'en vient
[16:29] <IdleOne> btw guys, sorry I didn't make it to geekfest (I said I would be there) but things came up and I just wasn't able to come help you folks.
[16:52] <sipherdee> IdleOne: i hope to see you again soon. maybe at the ubuntu hour in the next weeks...
[17:00] <cyphermox> deuxpi, don't mind if I put your name in my blog post?
[17:01] <cyphermox> Mobidoy, même question, ca te dérange si je met ton nom dans mon article sur le blog?
[17:01] <cyphermox> ca sera sur planet.ubuntu.com
[17:02] <cyphermox> sipherdee, ^ même question
[17:04] <deuxpi> cyphermox: pas de problème
[17:05] <Mobidoy> no problemo
[17:06] <deuxpi> j'avais déjà 
[17:07] <deuxpi> écrit un petit billet, mais c'était pas tout à fait "wrap up"/rapport
[17:09] <sipherdee> cyphermox: pas de problème!
[17:10] <cyphermox> ok
[17:10] <sipherdee> bien que je considère que ma contribution a été minimale mais j'ai appris à vous connaître un peu plus et vu comment vous vous adressez aux gens.  je suis content d'être passé!
[17:10] <cyphermox> moi je met pas mal de tout, en résumé.
[17:10] <cyphermox> sipherdee, cool, ca fait plaisir que tu sois passé
[17:14] <IdleOne> did cyphermox kiss everybody who stopped at the table again this year?
[17:14] <deuxpi> o_O
[17:16] <sipherdee> IdleOne: yes, the usual...
[17:16] <IdleOne> hehe
[17:17] <cyphermox> IdleOne, kiss? you clearly weren't aware of *everything* :)
[17:17] <IdleOne> deuxpi: se demande pourquoi ya pas eu de bec
[17:17] <IdleOne> :P
[17:17] <sipherdee> yes, there was a fur contest on sunday.
[17:17] <IdleOne> fur contest?
[17:18] <IdleOne> I don't think I want to know 
[17:18] <cyphermox> IdleOne, uh... a furry contest
[17:18] <deuxpi> I was trying to attract people (to me) with World of Goo, but I see I failed :)
[17:18] <IdleOne> what is that?
[17:18] <sipherdee> oops, hehe.
[17:18] <cyphermox> furries?
[17:18] <IdleOne> yeah
[17:19] <sipherdee> world of goo was really popular!
[17:20] <IdleOne> I still don't know what a furry contest is
[17:20] <sipherdee> i am looking for pictures.
[17:20] <cyphermox> IdleOne, people in full-body animal suits
[17:20] <IdleOne> oh
[17:20] <cyphermox> e.g. a big cat or bear or whatever
[17:21] <cyphermox> anyway, blog post preview: http://blog.cyphermox.net/b/post-preview?token=DH5XnS4BAAA.lmBt851MotVqri-ih8yLpA.AUeVh1W6rMr1m6vpFYYi5w&postId=5648806569540012372&type=POST
[17:24] <IdleOne> looks good but the link to picasa does not work
[17:25] <IdleOne> oh, it's a preview. does that make a difference?
[17:25] <deuxpi> works for me...
[17:26] <IdleOne> it's plain text here. no link
[17:27] <sipherdee> yes, same thing for me with mozilla firefox.
[17:28] <IdleOne> actually none of the links on the page work for me
[17:31] <sipherdee> idem.
[18:42] <deuxpi> o_O la première phrase sur le site ubuntu-qc.org présuppose que tous les systèmes viennent nécéssairement avec Windows ou Mac OS préinstallé
[18:52] <cyphermox> deuxpi, on peut surement le changer
[18:53] <deuxpi> :)
[19:00] <cyphermox> deuxpi, le header du site est trop orange aussi
[19:02] <deuxpi> orange ?
[19:02] <deuxpi> si je compare à loco.ubuntu.com, il a l'air plus clair effectivement
[19:03] <cyphermox> ouais
[19:05] <deuxpi> whoah et le système de commentaires est spammé à mort
[19:14] <deuxpi> en gros, le site a l'ai abandonné... :(
[19:14] <deuxpi> s/ai/air/
[19:33] <cyphermox> bon, modem cable remplacé
[19:33] <cyphermox> en principe je devrais déconner moins souvent :)
[19:35] <deuxpi> si c'était permis par hydro-québec, j'aurais un système avec un backup par panneau solaire </geek> :)
[19:40] <cyphermox> c'est pas permis?
[19:40] <cyphermox> j'étais certain que oui
[19:40] <cyphermox> ca te prend une installation spéciale bien sûr mais tu peux avoir de bons rabais
[19:46] <deuxpi> c'est que si il y a une panne d'hydro, on est obligé de couper l'output des panneaux
[19:46] <deuxpi> il faut pas fournir sur le réseau quand le réseau est en panne
[19:47] <deuxpi> pour ce qui est des rabais, on devrait avoir 100% rabais :)
[19:55] <cyphermox> ah...
[19:55] <cyphermox> mais normalement tu devrais avoir un transfer switch qui permet justement de pas fournir sur le réseau en panne
[19:56] <deuxpi> ouais, mais $$$ :)
[19:56] <cyphermox> ouais... mais bon, y'a des avantages
[19:56] <deuxpi> effectivement
[19:56] <cyphermox> no such thing as a free lunch
[19:57] <deuxpi> deux gars sur un channel d'OS libre qui se disent ça ;)
[19:57] <cyphermox> si ca t'intéresse, c'est pas spécifique à Hydro, mais Dustin Kirkland a sur son blog les détails de son setup pour des panneaux solaires
[19:57] <deuxpi> je devrais blogger là dessus aussi, c'est très geek :)
[19:57] <cyphermox> rofl
[19:58] <deuxpi> Kirkland a même packagé les outils de collecte de données pour Ubuntu... j'ai du chemin à faire
[20:00] <deuxpi> ok... Montréal c'est pas Austin non plus
[23:12] <cyphermox> en direct de l'heure Ubuntu de Longueuil :D
[23:14] <Mobidoy> Good Bonne soirée :) Je te souhaite de la visite :) 
[23:15] <cyphermox> Mobidoy, on verra bien :)
[23:15] <cyphermox> au pire je continue a coder sur nm-applet, je fais un gros cleanup et retravail de ma patch pour l'inclure upstream
[23:17] <cyphermox> Mobidoy, lui, il se porte bien?
[23:20] <Mobidoy> Oui, encore sur le dos pour +/- 40 heures mais ca va... C'est pls long qu'autre chose lol... 
[23:23] <cyphermox> ouin
[23:23] <cyphermox> Mobidoy, c'est pour ca que c'est pratique un laptop
[23:24] <cyphermox> juste 24 heures quand j'ai fait mon apendicite, j'étais en train de devenir fou... par contre après j'ai passé un mois à la maison à gosser sur Ubuntu :D
[23:27] <Mobidoy> apendicite, c'est pire qe moi ca lol.... moi c'est juste un minime trou dans la colonne pour reeuillir du liquide... 
[23:30] <cyphermox> bah bah bah, c'est pas si pire, j'suis pas mourru
[23:32] <Mobidoy> roflf 
[23:39] <cyphermox> ProfNoel, bonsoir
[23:39] <ProfNoel> Allo cyphermox