RoAkSoAxhggdh: maybe is gonna be best to take that out from eucalyptus-common into a new package00:05
DavieyRoAkSoAx, o/00:06
RoAkSoAxDaviey: ok so I was thinking, what's the purpose of euca-* commands?00:07
RoAkSoAxDaviey: are those to be run only00:07
RoAkSoAxon the CLC00:07
RoAkSoAxor on any machine that install eucalyptus-common?00:07
hggdhRoAkSoAx, euca-* could be run remotely00:08
hggdhfrom a machine external to the cloud00:08
hggdhthe hell is that there are euca-* in euca2ools and in eucalyptus*00:09
RoAkSoAxhggdh: uhmmm00:09
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hggdhRoAkSoAx, nothing prohibits you from installing euca2ools on your laptop and using it there to control an Eucalyptus cloud elsewhere (or EC2)00:11
RoAkSoAxhggdh: ok so as far as I can see the00:12
RoAkSoAxpython module euca_admin is only shipped with the eucalyptus source00:12
hggdhyes. It seems to be used by some *other* euca-* -- like add-user, delete-user, and perhaps others --00:13
RoAkSoAxwhile euca2ools ships a whole set of euca-* commands that do not use the euca_admin module00:13
hggdhthese seem to be restricted to running under the cloud00:14
RoAkSoAxDaviey: hggdh so what we could do is separate those euca-* commands and moduel into a separate packages and maybe from euca2ools also install them/it as a Dependency00:14
RoAkSoAxhggdh: right euca_admin module seems to be run under the could00:14
hggdhRoAkSoAx, I would like to know *why* eucalyptus split the euca-*, first of all00:14
RoAkSoAxhggdh: because those binaries that use euca_admin seem to be only for the CLC: the source is organized as: /clc/tools/src/euca_admin/00:15
hggdhbefore we go and split them. the euca-* admin functions would -- most probably -- be restricted to the CLC, I do not know why00:16
hggdhsince -common is installed in the CLC, there is no missing dependency00:16
RoAkSoAxhggdh: whose the contact in eucalytpus for this?00:16
hggdhRoAkSoAx, Dmitrii, or Daniel, IIRC00:16
RoAkSoAxhggdh: right but -common is also installed in the NC,CC,walrus, sc00:16
RoAkSoAxhggdh: nicknames?00:17
hggdhon the #eucalyptus channel...00:17
hggdhcerealkllr is, I think, Daniel00:18
hggdhdeckie is from Eucalyptus, but I do not remember his name... Chris?00:19
hggdhI do not see any that I would associate with Dmitrii, but I do not remember even chatting with him00:19
hggdhRoAkSoAx, another bit of data: I can create an user with euca-add-user, but the user is created disabled, and I cannot see how to enable it :-(00:21
RoAkSoAxhggdh: ok so I guess the best is to separate the euca-* binaries shipped in eucalyptus-common into its own separate package00:31
RoAkSoAxDaviey: ^^00:31
hggdhRoAkSoAx, I agree. But, for consistency, euca-get-credentials should be in this new package, should it not?00:32
RoAkSoAxhggdh: I believe it should00:32
hggdhand we should add a depends on eucalyptus so that it would be autoinstalled on the CLC00:33
RoAkSoAxeucalyptus-admin-tools probably00:33
RoAkSoAxhggdh: yeah00:33
hggdhprobably on eucalyptus-cloud (I guess)00:34
RoAkSoAxhggdh: i guess we should add the depend in eucalyptus-cloud00:34
benlakesituation: 6.06 md raid1 + lvm + lilo, worked great for 2 years sans kernel updates... finally decided to update kernel, reboot, hosed. Cannot boot, not even the backup kernel which is awesome. Two things that concerned me when doing updates was for lvm2 and udev. I probably should of known better with lvm2 since its metadata is not backwards compatible and apparently lilo freaked. udev, well, that also caused lilo to freak do to dev00:34
benlakemapping changing on it, it threw warnings, but internet said it was ok to ignore. Long story short, I have a perfectly valid md array and lvm(2?) setup that I can reliably access in rescue mode, but I cannot, for the last 10 hours, get lilo to run so I can install an new/old/different kernel image.00:34
benlakeif anyone would be so kind, I would gladly buy something off their wishlist as this is killing me.00:35
RoAkSoAxhggdh: lest see what daviey says about this00:35
hggdhRoAkSoAx, yup. I am not sure this is the right moment...00:36
hggdhRoAkSoAx, meanwhile... bug 73170200:37
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 731702 in eucalyptus "euca-add-user adds a new disabled user, and there is no visible way to enable it " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73170200:37
RoAkSoAxhggdh: hehe alrighty will take a look at it tomorrow00:38
hggdhand this is it for today. Gonna watch some Family Guy now :-)00:38
RoAkSoAxhggdh: same here :P00:40
* benlake sobs a bit00:40
rnigamany comments on setting up bridge network for kvm guests anyone?00:44
rnigamubuntu-server is the host and the guest00:44
pmatulisrnigam: did you try the ubuntu kvm docs?00:46
rnigampmatuils: Going through them but I must confess don't have an indepth networking knowledge.00:59
rnigamSo my network admin has given me a set of ips that I can use for vm's i am creating01:01
rnigamDo I still need a bridge?01:01
rnigamaccording to the ubuntu kvm docs01:02
rnigameth0 must be set manual and br0 must have static address with bridge_ports=eth0 set! so does this mean all my vms traffic will pass through the br0 interface?01:04
w1k3dI would like to use the EBS version of Ubuntu 10.10 for Amazon EC2. Does that VM have the entire OS stored on EBS (i.e., will stuff I install be persistent)?01:07
pmatulisrnigam: you want a bridge if you need to be able to contact the guests from an external host (ex: ssh into the guest)01:11
pmatulisw1k3d: no, the OS will not reside on the EBS volume.  to do that, you need to do some special trickery01:13
w1k3dpmatulis: How can I put everything on EBS?01:13
w1k3dor, be able to save the modified image01:15
erichammondw1k3d: Yes, The OS will reside on the root EBS volume if you are running an EBS boot instance.  Your entire file system will persist except for (by default) things under /mnt which is the ephemeral storage.01:15
w1k3doh, i see01:15
erichammond"will persist" = through stop/start cycles, but not (by default) if you "terminate" the instance.01:16
w1k3di wasn't sure if "EBS" instance meant that there was just an EBS volume mounted or if it meant everyting was on EBS.01:16
w1k3dwhat's the difference?01:16
ddbt86good day, is there someone willing to help me setup a VPS for Ruby on Rails?01:17
ddbt86or at least answer some questions about the process..01:17
erichammondw1k3d: I don't understand the question.  When you run an EBS boot instance the root file system is on an EBS volume.01:17
pmatulisw1k3d: sorry, i thought you were using UEC01:18
w1k3dok, that's what i wanted01:18
w1k3dbut why will terminating cause me to lose my data?01:18
erichammondw1k3d: If you "terminate" the instance, then EC2 deletes your EBS volume (by default).  If you "stop" the instance, the volume is still there and you can "start" the instance again.01:20
w1k3dah, i see. That's quite tricky naming.01:20
erichammondw1k3d: It is possible to keep your EBS volume around if you modify some instance attributes before terminating, but it's rare you want that.01:21
erichammondw1k3d: I wrote some related info here: http://alestic.com/2010/01/ec2-instance-locking01:22
Patrickdkisn't the normal way to back it up to s3 if you wanted to keep it?01:23
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KurtKrautpmatulis, w1k3d, a t1.micro is fully hosted and bootable in a EBS image.01:42
erichammondPatrickdk: It is possible to create EBS snapshots of any EBS volume (including the root EBS volume on an EBS boot instance).  EBS snapshots are stored in S3 (eleven 9's of reliability).01:43
patdk-lapI totally dont get google01:50
patdk-lapsomething keeps accessing my webserver, from a google owned ip block01:50
patdk-lapbut it's not googlebot or something01:50
patdk-lapit has no ptr for the ip, and that is odd for google01:50
patdk-lapbut it does several hundred http connections per second01:50
patdk-laptoday from ip's and
KurtKrautpatdk-lap, nmap on those IPs outputs something useful?02:17
benlakeso while booting, lvm dies complaining about a pv it can't find and the system drops into busybox02:19
benlake6.06, the only lvm command I have is vgchange, which I do a vgchange -ay --partial and get root/boot/swap active, but I have no other lvm programs to remove the disk (that isn't really in use) and I'm not sure how to continue booting. Any ideas?02:21
patdk-lapAll filtered.02:25
lifelessbenlake: hmm, I'm not sure02:34
lifelessbenlake: the lvm master command should be present02:34
benlakelifeless: sadly, it is not02:35
EvilPhoenixanyone know why postfix can't send email, and generates this error when trying to send via CLI?  postdrop: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory02:46
patdk-lapyou really messed with the config file pretty good02:48
patdk-lapand messed up master.cf02:48
* EvilPhoenix grumbles03:00
EvilPhoenixthe original sendmail package that was packaged with ubuntu didnt work either03:00
ScottKThe postfix package as shipped has no such problems, so the configuration or something else has been changed.03:01
EvilPhoenixi've run dpkg-reconfigure on it 8 times03:02
EvilPhoenixstill seems to be f'd03:02
EvilPhoenixthe issue occurred with the out-of-the-box sendmail package which postfix replaced03:03
EvilPhoenixany idea how i can fix this?03:03
ScottKPurge it (sudo apt-get purge postfix), make sure any residual files in /etc/postfix are removed, then reinstall postfix.03:03
ScottKYou can't install postfix and sendmail packages at the same time.03:03
EvilPhoenixi know that03:04
EvilPhoenixthis issue was already existent prior to apt-get purge sendmail; apt-get install postfix03:04
roasted_I changed my DHCP range on my Ubuntu server, but when I PXE boot systems to it, it grabs the old range. What do I have to change for PXE to use the new range?03:37
twbEvilPhoenix: that sounds like one of postfix's spool directories is buggered (e.g. doesn't exist, or bad ownership/permissions)03:40
twbEvilPhoenix: #postfix would probably have a better idea03:40
EvilPhoenixtwb:  strange thing is it happens on a Debian Squeeze box too, which makes me thing its a more global issue, like f'd disk images or something03:48
EvilPhoenixtwb:  i'll take a look there later, thanks03:50
roasted_nobody familiar with pxe boot?03:51
twbroasted_: the ubuntu server is the DHCP and TFTP server?03:55
roasted_twb, yes03:56
roasted_Im using LTSP. The clients PXE boot to it and pulls down the Ubuntu image accordingly.03:56
roasted_I'm setting up a test environment here at home, but I use 1.X here at home so I wanted to change the third octet of 0's to 1's so I could get through the gateway etc.03:57
roasted_But now that I did that, when I PXE boot, it's still looking for 0.X03:57
roasted_So I got to wonder if I needed to edit a PXE file to for 1.X usage since I changed the range.03:57
twbI don't know what you mean by "0.x" and "1.x"03:59
roasted_192.168.0.X vs 192.168.1.X04:00
twbYou shouldn't use either of those, because EVERYONE uses them04:01
roasted_that's the point04:02
roasted_Im setting up a test environment here. at home.04:02
roasted_I use 192.168.1.X, so I WANT to use that to mesh up with the network.04:02
roasted_But with 0.X I'm unable to get through the gateway. I cant install updates, etc.04:02
roasted_So I swapped my DHCP range and IP on the server to be 192.168.1.X but the PXE boot still pulls 192.168.0.X addresses04:03
twbEr, DHCP and PXE do not work across gateways04:03
roasted_well when I have a static IP of (it assigned this by default with LTSP) I cant get external access04:03
roasted_and I want external access...04:03
twbBut if you're getting a DHCPACK in 192.168.0/24 from the DHCP server, it's because you haven't reconfigured it properly04:03
twbroasted_: you cannot simply statically assign an address at random and have return packets routed back to you04:05
roasted_I think Im missing a file04:05
roasted_because I need a gateway, right04:05
twbYou need to reconfigure the router to handle 192.168.0/24 as well as 192.168.1/2404:05
twbIf you add a gateway, you packets will get out, but the response packets will never get to you because your router won't know you exist04:06
roasted_I'd rather just switch to 1.X since I may have to do it at work anyway when I most the setup there04:07
roasted_so I'd like to learn how to swap the entire range04:07
twbI'm not stopping you04:07
roasted_how would I do it in ubuntu alone, taking pxe out of it04:09
roasted_change the DHCP range that is04:09
twbThat depends what DHCP server you're using04:09
roasted_Im using ubuntu for the dhcp server.04:09
twbUbuntu ships several.04:09
roasted_how do I find out what Im using04:10
twbnetstat -nlp, look at what is LISTEN on the UDP bootps port04:10
twbWhich is port 6704:10
kieppiehi guys. I'm looking for details on kernel versions: server, generic, virtual, preempt. where an I find details & differences re each?04:16
roasted_so does anybody know how to change the dhcp scope in ubuntu?04:17
Datzkieppie: there's stuff out there. I really haven't found too much. but there's this dated piece: http://www.serverwatch.com/tutorials/article.php/3716396/Ubuntu-Server-Kernel-Comparisons-and-Implementation-Issues.htm04:19
kieppiethanks Datz04:20
Datzoh I guess that isn't from the start of the article04:20
Datzkieppie1: I guess you could follow the method they do in the article to figure out the difference. If you do, you might write an article for the rest of us. :P04:35
kieppie1Datz: I just find it hard to believe such a basic, fundamental & critical function is totally undocumented04:38
Datzkieppie1: yea, maybe I just haven't found more on it. It's been awhile since I looked04:39
uvirtbotNew bug: #731763 in openldap2 (main) "libldap-2.4-2 does not install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73176304:41
twbkieppie1: simply install them and diff the /boot/config-* files04:42
Datzyea, that's what they did in the article.. I may have to do this..04:43
twbkieppie1: compared to generic, server has PAE enabled, and virtual has a number of drivers and things disabled (because they don't exist on virtual systems)04:43
kieppie1orly? reinventing the wheel much rather than rtfm? i.e. does the virtual refer to the kernel suited for virt hosts or clients (diff totally undocumented)? I know server is for server & generic suitable for desktops.04:45
kieppie1I'd like to rtfm, if only fm's on subject were available04:46
twbkieppie1: why would a diff need to be documented?04:47
twbkieppie1: it's an automated process04:47
Datzdoesn't need to be, but it would be nice :)04:48
kieppie1because it's an option available @ install, & I've encountered similar choices in the past. I've usually gone with server or generic, but I'd like to have a better idea of the choices I'm making04:48
kieppie1this goes some way towards addressing the question: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_lucid_kernels&num=104:56
kieppie1not the simple answer for the simple question posed, but will have to do...04:56
phoenixsamprashow to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 ?08:40
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade08:41
uvirtbotNew bug: #731849 in cloud-init (main) "CloudConfig.setup_user_keys should not hardcode the authorized_keys location" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73184910:02
airtonixphoenixsampras: i like to sacrifice virgin chickens and fry amputated frog legs then hope for the best after clicking upgrade10:20
uvirtbotNew bug: #731859 in squid (main) "package squid 2.7.STABLE7-1ubuntu12.2 failed to install/upgrade: el subproceso instalado el script post-installation devolvió el código de salida de error 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73185910:27
memoryleakI get Error # 500 instead of 404 when i try to access a non-exisiting file - what could cause the problem? it's the default installation of 10.04 LTS withouth modification in config10:27
memoryleakforget to write that i'm using apache210:27
joschimemoryleak: could be some rewrite rule or an invalid/non-functioning ErrorDocument10:29
joschimemoryleak: check your error log10:29
memoryleaki switched to LogLevel Debug and i get "redirected from r->uri = /index.php"10:31
memoryleakbut there is no .htaccess file10:31
joschimemoryleak: the apache httpd configuration doesn't only consist of .htaccess files10:31
memoryleakthere is no redirect in <VirtualHost> either10:32
joschimemoryleak: ErrorDocument, RewriteRule etc.10:33
memoryleakdid grep -ir index.php /etc/apache2/ and got something in dir.conf10:33
memoryleak /etc/apache2/mods-available/dir.conf:          DirectoryIndex index.html index.cgi index.pl index.php index.xhtml index.htm - and that's it10:34
memoryleaki have this issue on all sites10:35
memoryleakok solved the problem  - there was an .htaccess in the parent folder of the document_root, thanks for your help joschi10:36
uvirtbotNew bug: #731878 in amavisd-new (main) "amavis force-reload crashes amavis" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73187810:56
uvirtbotNew bug: #731879 in libpam-ldap (main) "libpam-ldap depends on ldap-auth-client" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73187911:01
kim0hallyn: is it a lot of work to rebuild your ppa pkgs after syncing with spice-0.8 and the updated kvm11:02
joeskilhello. Anyone here who has any help to offer or any tips for retrieving data from a hacked server?11:04
TheInfinityjoeskil: ask your provider to backup everything. then reinstall the complete server.11:05
joeskilhehe. I am the provider. it is my testing-server. but on it, I had a little phpBB forum, and I don't know how to get to my SQL data11:06
TheInfinityjoeskil: give yourself admin rights to mysql and dump the complete db?11:08
joeskilTheInfinity: yes, off course... But there will be no harm done if I hook up the server again? I mean. can I prevent the hack attacks from happening while working on  the server?11:10
joeskilTheInfinity: And thanks. I really didn't think of the DB dumping....11:11
TheInfinityjoeskil: you really should rethink about your server security, yes. and i would have a look at the dump if theres strange data in it.11:12
joeskilTheInfinity: Thanks. It should be quite easy to get the data, as there are only 3 users on the phpBB11:13
joeskilTheInfinity: I have, after the attack, installed a Smoothwall firewall on my network. and, also tightened the security in accordance to how-to's on the net11:14
TheInfinityjoeskil: yea, things like always updated software (also phpbb software) + no ssh password login + fail2ban + ... are essential.11:15
joeskilTheInfinity: Thanks. I am learning... so sad I lost the setup just now before I made any backup. Well. lesson learned11:17
kirklandhallyn: no FFe needed, as you had the release candidate in the archive before FF;  here we're just bumping from an RC to the GA, which is generally desirable, no new features added11:18
kirklandhallyn: i just built/tested, i'm uploading now11:18
kim0kirkland: are you talking about spice ?11:21
kirklandkim0: um, no, i don't think so11:22
kirklandkim0: just hallyn's qemu-kvm-0.14 upload11:22
kim0well that's the one that was built with spice suport11:22
uvirtbotNew bug: #669940 in keyutils (main) "Keyutils is not installed automatically when upgrading 10.04 > 10.10" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66994011:37
* Daviey ^5's kirkland for 0.14.0+noroms-0ubuntu2.11:47
* kirkland ^5s Daviey because he is awersome11:47
* kirkland adds an "r" to awesome so that he speaks in Queen's English11:48
* jpds wonders if the Queen has said 'awesome' in the past.11:48
joeskilTheInfinity: Have you got another minute? I booted up my old server, and hooked it to the network behind smoothwall so that it can only send and receive on LAN, no data beyond the firewall.11:58
joeskilTheInfinity: But the hackers have somehow prevented MySQL from starting, and I don't have privelieges to start my own SQL daemon11:59
TheInfinityhave to go now. sorry. :)11:59
joeskilTheInfinity: Oh ok. Thanks anyway. Thanks a bunch!12:00
remix_tjjoeskil: what's the problem with mysql start?12:00
joeskilremix_tj: will cut/paste in a few secs12:02
joeskilsudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart  * Stopping MySQL database server mysqld                                 [ OK ]   * Starting MySQL database server mysqld                                 [fail]12:02
remix_tjjoeskil: try this12:03
Davieyjpds, Didn't you listen to last years Queen's speech?  "This has been an awesome year" ... she said it.12:03
Davieyjoeskil, You have admin access on the server?12:04
remix_tjjoeskil:  sudo mysqld --verbose12:04
joeskilyes. as far as I know. it is my server12:04
Davieyjoeskil, I was responding to, "I don't have privelieges to start my own SQL daemon"12:05
joeskilDaviey: yes. that was badly put. I have root access, but with root, I can't start my MySQL. in /var/log/messages it suggests that I am denied:12:06
joeskilDaviey: Mar  9 13:00:10 punkbuster kernel: [ 1596.372384] type=1503 audit(1299672010.149:115): operation="inode_permission" requested_mask="r::" denied_mask="r::" fsuid=0 name="/sys/devices/system/cpu/" pid=5755 profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld"12:07
joeskilremix_tj: joe@punkbuster:~$ sudo mysqld --verbouse 110309 13:05:35  InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 9656380 110309 13:05:35 [ERROR] mysqld: unknown option '--verbouse' 110309 13:05:35 [ERROR] Aborting  110309 13:05:35  InnoDB: Starting shutdown... 110309 13:05:36  InnoDB: Shutdown completed; log sequence number 0 9656380 110309 13:05:36 [Warning] Forcing shutdown of 1 plugins 110309 13:05:36 [Note] mysqld: Shutdown comp12:08
remix_tjsudo mysqld_safe --verbose12:08
joeskilremix_tj: joe@punkbuster:~$ sudo mysqld_safe --verbose 110309 13:06:47 mysqld_safe Logging to '/var/lib/mysql/punkbuster.err'. 110309 13:06:47 mysqld_safe Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/lib/mysql 110309 13:06:49 mysqld_safe mysqld from pid file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid ended joe@punkbuster:~$12:09
remix_tjjoeskil: tail /var/log/punkbuster.err12:09
remix_tjjoeskil: tail /var/log/mysql/punkbuster.err12:09
joeskilremix_tj: no such file12:10
remix_tjbut wait12:11
remix_tjjoeskil: /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld12:11
remix_tjjoeskil: copy the content of that file to http://paste.ubuntu.com/12:12
joeskilremix_tj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577807/12:12
remix_tjjoeskil: is not a command, is a file...12:13
remix_tjcopy the content of that file12:14
joeskilremix_tj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577809/12:15
remix_tjjoeskil: add this row before the last }12:16
remix_tj/sys/devices/system/cpu/ r,12:16
remix_tjthen launch sudo /etc/init.d/apparmor restart12:17
joeskilremix_tj: done12:19
joeskilremix_tj: any other tips?12:23
joeskilremix_tj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577813/12:24
remix_tjjoeskil: did you add?12:26
remix_tjoh yes12:26
joeskilremix_tj: yes12:26
remix_tjjoeskil: now restart apparmor sudo /etc/init.d/apparmor restart then start mysql12:27
remix_tjnow is starting my lunchtime12:28
remix_tji'll be back in 2 hours12:28
joeskilremix_tj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577814/12:29
joeskiloh shoot...12:30
hallynkim0: no, what kirkland uploaded was not with spice support12:34
* kim0 nods12:34
hallynkirkland: awesome,thanks :)12:35
kirklandhallyn: np12:35
kim0hallyn: not sure if you've read the messages I left yesterday. Basically win7 works fine with spice with/without qxl driver (Great!). What doesn't work is sound and the embedded virt-viewer widget in virt-manager12:36
hallynnow to try uploading my vmbuilder bugfix as my daily test whether I have upload rights :)12:36
hallynkim0: virt-viewer widget I don't know what to do about offhand.  We can look at libvirt and vmtools and virt-viewer and see if we need spice-enabled versions12:36
hallynkim0: so do you think we should stick with the versions in ppa for now?12:37
hallynall the better of so, one thing less on my todo list12:37
kim0hallyn: in a ppa is fine for me12:37
hallynyou mean what is now in ppa is fine?12:37
kim0but we can sync to latest stable 0.8 release ?12:37
hallynthat's what i was asking12:37
hallynok, i'll do that12:37
kim0hallyn: ping me once ppa rebuilds .. I'll retest12:38
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uvirtbotNew bug: #514544 in backuppc (main) "BackupPC_archiveStart script broken" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51454413:07
awantihi today when i am trying to login, its taking more time (4 o 5 min).13:12
awanti so how do i solve that.. plz. help13:14
bencerdoes anybody know where and the deadline to submit talks for the next uds?13:30
hallynbencer: there aren't real 'talks' at uds, but I don't think calls for blueprints for sessions have gone out yet13:34
benceryes, blueprints... :) don't get used to that name13:34
ogra_there are the plenary talks13:34
bencerhallyn: do you know when approximately will be open? probably keeping an eye on planet ubuntu will be enough, isn't it?13:35
hallynbencer: I should think so.  no i don't know when, but UDS being in May I would expect another month before the call goes out13:36
hallynogra_: true.  those can generally get scheduled pretty much on the spot though right? :)13:37
HackeMatei have configured a webdav server that accept SSL connections, now it works with windows client but i can't execute anything13:38
ogra_hallyn, i think if there are open spots, yeah13:38
HackeMatei gave 777 permissions but in windows cant be executed directly13:38
HackeMatei can download them though13:38
HackeMateany advice is welcomed13:38
bencerok thanks hallyn ogra_13:39
uvirtbotNew bug: #731976 in samba (main) "Can't access Windows 7 computer via SAMBA" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73197613:41
HackeMatei guess that's a coincidence13:43
hallynHackeMate: (sorry, no ignoring you, I just don't know much about webdav - SpamapS may be able to help you in a bit)13:50
HackeMatethanks --  Im patient13:51
RoAkSoAxmorning all14:07
hggdhsmoser, good morning, do we have a proposed ec2 kernel for karmic?14:07
remix_tjjoeskil: are you there?14:21
joeskilremix_tj: now I am here! :) Are you?14:24
remix_tjjoeskil: what about /var/log/syslog ?14:29
remix_tjjoeskil: try starting mysql and then if fails do tail -n 200 /var/log/mail.log14:29
remix_tjtail -n 200 /var/log/syslog14:29
remix_tj(wrong file)14:29
remix_tjan paste14:29
joeskilremix_tj: wait. i have to switch locations and computer.14:30
remix_tji'll wait14:31
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joeskilremix_tj: back14:39
joeskilremix_tj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577859/14:42
remix_tjjoeskil: tail -n 200 /var/log/messages ?14:51
jdstrandhallyn: hi! you have upload rights for libvirt now, correct? (ie, I don't need to sponsor your people.canonical.com/~serge/libvirt_0.8.8-1ubuntu2.debdiff anymore)14:51
joeskil1remix_tj: I lost connection for a while. I posted the output.14:56
rnigamHow can I completely remove a KVM guest image from a ubuntu server. I did virsh destroy vm1 but the image is still present with 'shutoff' flag (virsh list --all)14:57
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compdocthe image is a file, most of the time14:59
compdocsometimes its a /dev/x14:59
loolWhen booting latest maverick EBS image, I miss the nls_cp437.ko and friends15:01
loolfind /lib/modules/|grep nls > not much15:01
loolBut the ubuntu-maverick.git kernel config seems to have them15:01
loolare these getting stripped out somehow?15:01
uvirtbotNew bug: #732028 in squid (main) "package squid 2.7.STABLE7-1ubuntu12.2 failed to install/upgrade: подпроцесс установлен сценарий post-installation возвратил код ошибки 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73202815:02
loolthis is on i386 BTW15:03
joeskil1remix_tj: did you hit escape? :)15:04
hallynjdstrand: no, my rights are not yet in effect15:07
Davieylool, Hmm... I think you need to talk to the kernel team, but keep smoser in the loop.15:11
Davieylool, I don't think smoser modifies the kernel from what they build for him.15:11
blackxoredhello guys15:12
thafreakMorning server peeps15:12
loolDaviey: I moved to #ubuntu-kernel already, thanks for confirming though, appreciated15:12
thafreakquick survey...anyone using anything for automation/config management? i.e. something like puppet?15:12
Davieylool, i should have looked :)15:12
blackxoredI've had an asterisk setup in the past, didn't lasted because of management, now the buzz about web conference has found its place again, and I want to setup something for web conference. What do you recommend? Fast is the dominating point here.15:12
thesheff17thafreak: allot of people are using puppet now.15:13
blackxoredany web meeting software or "go for asterisk anyways" will do it15:13
thafreakthanks thesheff1715:14
blackxoredthesheff17: there's also chef, which it's a personal preference because it's configuration is a ruby DSL ;)15:14
thafreakyeah, I shy away from ruby syntax :) my brain just doesn't grok it yet...15:14
blackxoredthafreak: ok, then puppet yourself ;)15:15
thesheff17yea I'm also a python guy so I haven't used chef or puppet15:15
thesheff17puppet has its own syntax but is also ruby15:15
thafreakI remember seeing something about ubuntu server and cobbler...wasn't sure if something other than puppet was more "official" for ubuntu15:15
thafreakanyone know if there's articles on the official server wiki's for this area?15:16
thafreaklike there is for postfix and ldap15:16
RoAkSoAxkirkland: bug #731922 fixed :) Should build now though15:18
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 731922 in testdrive "testdrive's local uec-image testing broken" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73192215:18
RoAkSoAxthafreak: http://zulcss.wordpress.com/2011/01/19/using-cobbler-on-ubuntu/15:18
thafreakis cobbler comparable to puppet, or does it try to solve a different set of problems15:19
thafreaki.e. is it apples to apples, or apples to oranges15:20
RoAkSoAxthafreak: puppet afaik is used for remote configuration management, while cobbler is a provision service (remote installation)15:20
thafreakok...I thought they were slightly different...cobbler works with kickstart right?15:21
RoAkSoAxthafreak: yes15:21
thafreakso you'd probably use both cobler and puppet together then....cobler to get the initial install, then puppet to configure the server for specific tasks?15:22
thafreakAlso, I found on the main wiki, it really only talks about puppet15:23
RoAkSoAxthafreak: correct cobbler + puppet15:23
thafreakso, I'm guessing that's got the most support...or atleast the most motivated wiki authors15:23
RoAkSoAxthafreak: wikipage link?15:23
RoAkSoAxthafreak: yes that's correct. cobbler has been included in the current development release of Ubuntu (Natty) that is due in a month15:27
thafreakspeaking of natty, anything amazingly new on the virtualization front?15:28
loolDaviey: Is there another kernel I can swap in?15:30
loolDaviey: maybe -server, or -generic?15:30
loolDaviey: Will this "just work" with latest EBS images?15:30
RoAkSoAxthafreak: hallyn  is your guy for those sorts of questions15:30
thafreakI'm setting up a new vm host...debating on going bleeding edge or staying back with lucid15:30
blackxoredso anyone?15:30
* lool tries linux-image-server15:30
blackxoredthafreak: lucid for vm hosts, even debian or centos ;)15:30
thafreakcool...thanks RoAkSoAx15:30
blackxorednoone has a clue about my web conference question?15:31
RoAkSoAxDaviey: howdy!! What do you think about separating the euca_admin tools into a different package?15:31
thafreakyeah...I'm using lucid at work for our vmhosts and I like it, but at home...I'm feeling a little dangerous15:31
blackxoredthafreak: then go for xen in natty ;) I bet you wouldn't want to be dangerous in the rest of your life ;015:31
thafreakblackxored: what do you mean by web conference excatly...like phone conference room via a web browser?15:32
thafreakI already use xen on lenny/squeeze at other places...I really like that as well...I was looking for more like the new SPICE stuff...something new15:33
blackxoredthafreak: for a little background, I told before I had an asterisk setup and softphones, and management broke the thing up, now they want something on a conference nature setup fast, so I was wondering which path to follow15:33
thafreaklike conference calls via voip phones/conference room phones?15:33
blackxoredthafreak: I'm building a lucid image for xen4 using xen-tools, but no clue on what to put on it yet15:34
thafreakI think asterisk is still technically king...and there are packages for ubuntu in the repos, but I've been meaning to try out freeswitch for a long time15:34
blackxoredthafreak: assume so, the priorities are only "fast setup, multi-user conference support"15:34
phoenixsamprasHelp !! how to install ubuntu server on XEN CITRIX?15:34
loolHmm the vm doesn't come up anymore   :-(15:35
blackxoredthafreak: had a bad time with asterisk from the repos, can't recall if it was ubuntu or debian, but defintely had nightmares about it15:35
thafreakwell, I remember that freeswitch is technically superior...it was designed by former asterisk devs15:35
thafreakand it comes with conference room by default in the sample config...and it can do HD audio conference calls15:35
blackxoredremember the priorities? what do you think? fast setup, multi-user conference15:35
thafreakWell, fast setup will depend on you really...for me, I'd probably end up going with asterisk, cause I know the syntax of the configs much better15:36
thafreakfreeswitch may take me some time to figure out15:36
blackxoredit's also my case15:37
thafreakI don't think I ever setup a conference room on asterisk though....I'm pretty sure it's there and possible, but I don't remember...been a while15:37
thafreakThat and asterisk changes their config syntax every version or so...and I think they're up to 1.8 now15:38
compdocasterisk wouldnt be the best way15:38
compdocit makes a great phone system15:38
thafreakcompdoc: you seem to be a former asterisk admin too :) what do you use these days?15:39
compdocI use asterisk in a virtual machine for my own office/home15:39
compdocI would think there would be something better for conferences - some sort of online social media kind of thing15:41
thafreakah, I too have asterisk in a vm for the home office...15:42
thafreaki've had "figure out freeswitch" on my todo list for a few years now...I've just never had the time15:42
thafreakand things with xml configurations usually put me off (part of the reason I hate tomcat)15:43
remix_tjwhat about the paste?15:44
Davieylool, sorry, was AFK..  I don't think the tradional kernels are as xen friendly15:50
Davieylool, you really need to talk to smoser or smb i think15:50
rnigamHello everyone, I just did virsh undefine vm1 for a kvm guest vm1. How do I remove any images that might have been left behind? or does undefine command takes care of the image as well? Using Ubuntu MAverick - Server edition15:50
DavieyRoAkSoAx, well.... that was what i intiially suggested... but now thinking about it, is there any benefit?15:50
loolDaviey: Am I supposed to hang in -virt for this?15:50
loolDaviey: Or is this the right channel?15:50
Davieylool, I think it's a lucky dip between -server or -cloud... we don't even know when to switch :)15:51
Davieylool, smoser is away today.. smb might be the best person... i'll follow in -kernel :)15:52
blackxoredBTW is asterisk from the repos working???15:56
DigitalFluxHi Guys16:00
Disconnectanyone know the debconf magic to cause it to write a new partition table to a blank disk during installation? I've already got http://pastebin.com/LuZ5J09c set but it still prompts. (it doesn't prompt to overwrite the existing, so a rebuild works, but on the initial blank disk I get the "write changes to disks?" prompt)16:00
DigitalFluxA quick question about ubuntu-vm-builder16:00
ivokshm... vlan package should be installed by default16:00
DigitalFluxas far as i understand, when i use it to create a new kvm guest, it just downloads the distro image .. like say a lucid JeOS iso16:00
DigitalFluxdoes it do that everytime i create a new guest ? or this iso is stored somewhere ?16:01
DisconnectDigitalFlux: you don't understand very far :) it installs the individual packages from the repo each time. you probably want a local repo, or at least a caching proxy.16:01
DigitalFluxDisconnect: It creates the whole filesystem from packages ?16:02
* Disconnect is migrating from the increasingly-broken ubuntu-vm-builder to foreman w/ netboot installs. (Try uvb on an lvm some time, it'll create all -sorts- of fun.)16:02
DigitalFluxDisconnect: no "images" included ?16:02
patdk-wkthat is what the *installer* does :)16:02
patdk-wkthe cd is nothing more than a collection of packages16:02
Disconnectyah, what he said. thats the 'builder' part of "ubuntu-vm-builder"16:02
* DigitalFlux should look carefully at the name of software releases from now on .. :)16:03
DigitalFluxDisconnect: foreman/puppet is super cool i know, i'm just experimenting with some of the kvm features ..16:04
Disconnectthis isn't windows, you don't have to do a full hardware-specific install and then try to scrape the serial numbers off to make it 'generic' :)16:04
DigitalFluxDisconnect: so i wanted just a quick kvm installation ..16:04
* patdk-wk does netboot installs also, they are the best :)16:04
DigitalFluxOK OK guys, don't push me more to start a foreman installation :)16:04
patdk-wkI don't use foreman16:05
Disconnectyah it is pretty nice, it talks to libvirt to set up storage, talks to isc dhcpd/bind (UGH) to do netbooting and dns, then off it goes. fighting some issues but right now my problem is the automated part doesn't automate very well. (it won't write a new blank partition table w/o prompting)16:05
patdk-wkjust pxe boot to the installer, and apt-cacher-ng :)16:05
DigitalFluxDid the foreman supported Ubuntu in the first place ?16:05
DigitalFluxor this is a new addition ?16:05
RoAkSoAxDaviey: yes... the euca_admin tools can be run from any hosts with the keys configured and I don;t think admins would like to install eucalyptus-common for just the tools16:05
Disconnectalways has afaik. its just another os, foreman is all ruby and doesn't particularly care. (iirc they have support for ms dhcp/dns servers in the smart-proxy as well)16:05
DigitalFluxDisconnect: Oh, and where does cobbler fit in this scenario ? :)16:06
DigitalFluxDisconnect: for the partitioning/automated installation, it uses kickstart or preseed ?16:06
Disconnectno idea, last time i experimented with cobbler it was (ugh) centos about 5 years ago. it was .. damaged. (but then again, pretty much everything was at the time. it just had a sort of violent-tendencies damage that we eventually gave up on)16:06
DigitalFluxDisconnect: I think i faced this problem with kickstart before16:06
DavieyRoAkSoAx, Well that is true16:07
DigitalFluxDisconnect: cobbler seems to have made it to natty16:07
DavieyRoAkSoAx, I have no preference either way, if you want to do it - crack on.16:07
Disconnectgood for them?16:07
DigitalFluxDisconnect: that kickstart problem is an unresolved bug till now AFAIK16:07
Disconnecti'm preseeding.16:07
DavieyRoAkSoAx, Might want to raise a bug, that it's bloating your system, just for wanting to use the python module etc16:07
DigitalFluxDisconnect: hmm, let me get you my totally no-human-intervention preseed config16:08
Disconnectdoes it work on zero'd disks? this one will work fine if i do a rebuild (existing partition table gets overwritten)16:09
RoAkSoAxDaviey: Given that the euca-* tools and the euca_admin module are now shipped in eucalyptus-common, we should just probably create a package called eucalyptus-admin-tools that include nboth the binaries and the pyton module, to not introduce 2 new pacakges, and just keep them in one16:09
DavieyRoAkSoAx, I agree with that.16:11
RoAkSoAxDaviey: ok then I'm happy to do it :)16:11
DavieyRoAkSoAx, super!16:12
ahayesHello. Anyone have some time/knowledge to help with a multipath (MPIO) boot issue?16:19
pmatulis!ask | ahayes16:21
ubottuahayes: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)16:21
ivoksahayes: what's the problem?16:21
ahayesI've been able to get Ubuntu server installed on a single default LVM partition schemed disk, and then install the multipath-tools and multi-path-tools-boot packages. But booting is now intermittent. I get dropped into the initramfs shell.16:21
ivoksit tells you why it dropped into busybox16:22
ahayesMy initial goal was to have the server booting off a multipathed RAID-1 setup with a pair of drives, but I haven't figued that part out yet.16:22
ivoksdid you read the message it printed?16:23
ivokswhen it failed to boot16:23
ahayesYes… It tells me it can't find the boot device. It suggests that the roo= is wrong, or the rootdelay= should be specified (longer I assume)16:23
ahayeser.. root=16:23
ivoksand for root= you have what?16:24
phoenixsamprashow to setup a ubuntu cloud? lets say 3 servers?16:24
ahayesroot is /dev/mapper/ellie-root where ellie is the hostname16:25
ivoksahayes: so, did you check if it exists when you get dropped into busybox?16:25
hallynyay - open-vm-dkms is now working16:26
ahayesSorry… It was the first time I've ever *seen* busybox. I believe it was there, and pointed to /dev/dm-2116:27
Disconnect(repeat) anyone know the debconf magic to cause it to write a new partition table to a blank disk during installation? I've already got http://pastebin.com/LuZ5J09c set but it still prompts. (it doesn't prompt to overwrite the existing, so a rebuild works, but on the initial blank disk I get the "write changes to disks?" prompt)16:27
ahayeswhen I eventually 'exit'ed busybox because I didn't know what to do, it then booted.16:27
ahayesSo then I thought that maybe the rootdelay was worth exploring.16:28
ahayesMaybe it didn't have the device ready on its initial attempt.16:28
ahayesSo I tried modifying /etc/default/grub to have GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rootdelay=90"16:29
ahayesBut when I run update-grub, I get a "grub-probe: error: no such disk."16:30
ahayesSo that's where I'm at now.16:31
ahayesCredit to Ubuntu team, I've never had a boot issue before, so I find myself with a steep curve. Multipath isn't helping.16:32
ivokssorry, i have a situation here... bbl16:33
ahayesNo worries.16:33
lynxmanping SpamapS16:48
uvirtbotNew bug: #732082 in eucalyptus (main) "Eucalyptus admin tools should not be shipped in eucalyptus-common package" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73208216:53
rnigamGuys was anyone able to install apt-proxy on ubuntu maverick server? apt-get install is unable to locate the package.17:05
ivoksahayes: where were we?17:21
ivoksahayes: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="rootdelay=60 quiet splash"17:22
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ivoksahayes: update-grub17:23
patdk-wkis there a way to get a random number from dash?17:23
patdk-wkor must I use bash17:23
ivokspatdk-wk: http://www.shelldorado.com/scripts/cmds/rand.txt17:25
ahayesivoks: Back… OK. I'll try again17:26
patdk-wkivoks, before yo udid that I did, apt-get install rand17:28
patdk-wkbut it's keeps outputting the same number, multible times17:29
ivoksprove it's not random17:29
ahayesivoks: Still getting a grub-probe error: no such disk.17:29
ivoksahayes: in /boot/grub/grub.cfg, there's a line 'set root='17:30
ivoksahayes: is it /dev/sda?17:30
patdk-wkhehe :)17:30
patdk-wkit feel like a seed(time()) to me17:30
patdk-wkso unlikely to work where I want it, in a cron script17:31
ahayesivoks: It's '(ellie-root)'17:31
patdk-wkah, yep: the seed for the random numbers generator (default time(NULL))17:31
ahayes ivoks: Well.. there are a few, others (for recovery?) are '(hd1,msdos1)'17:33
ivokswhat is the multipath device name?17:33
ahayesWell… installing the multipath-tools-boot modified /etc/fstab to point to /dev/mapper/ellie-root17:34
ahayesivoks: That is a link to /dev/dm-2117:35
Skaagwhat virtualization solutions are working well with ubuntu server?17:35
ivoksahayes: try grub-install /dev/dm-2117:35
SkaagI mean as a host17:35
ahayesivoks: /boot and / are separate on this system. Does that make a difference?17:37
patdk-wkhmm, when you boot, are you in grub 1.9 or grub 0.9?17:38
patdk-wkif your in 1.9, then that isn't the issue17:38
ahayespatdk-wk: grub-install -v reports 1.98+20100804-5ubuntu317:39
patdk-wkahayes, that means nothing17:40
patdk-wkcause it's installed on your system, doesn't mean that is what is installed in the boot sector17:40
ahayespatdk-wk: This install is on a totally fresh system. Ubuntu 10.10 server cd is only one to touch it.17:40
patdk-wkI'm pretty sure it is, but :)17:40
Skaagcan I check the ulimit of a process externally?17:40
patdk-wkok, so grub-install won't fix the issue17:40
patdk-wkwhere is /boot located?17:40
ahayesmore /fstab17:40
ahayesOops… sec..17:41
ahayespatdk-wk: /etc/fstab says UUID=big_long_string /boot17:42
patdk-wkand what does the uuid map to?17:42
patdk-wkblkid can help17:42
ahayespatdk-wk: There is a comment there that it was on /dev/sdd1 during installation17:42
patdk-wkand now?17:42
mrayRoAkSoAx: https://github.com/mattray/cookbooks/tree/master/pxe_dust17:44
ahayespstdk-wk: blkid reports: /dev/mapper/35000c500335c7407-part1: UUID="47f7610f-f274-40bb-95cc-f8cf0504ddf2" TYPE="ext2"17:44
mrayautomated Ubuntu server installations, all the guesswork fixed17:44
ahayespatdk-wk and the other relevant bits are: /dev/mapper/35000c500335c7407-part5: UUID="PmA0Hb-jAWI-bnL5-L6wp-JDzB-dHcy-n2NM07" TYPE="LVM2_member"17:45
ahayes/dev/mapper/ellie-root: UUID="b48c8ec7-8011-401a-b196-1d891687f64b" TYPE="ext4"17:45
ahayes/dev/mapper/ellie-swap_1: UUID="cf3c86ac-3e1d-4b62-95d1-ab57daab2441" TYPE="swap"17:45
RoAkSoAxmray: cool!! Do you have a howto by any chance?17:46
mrayRoAkSoAx: I'm writing it up on my blog17:48
mraybut the code is fairly straightforward17:48
patdk-wkahayes, I'm thinking this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/grub2/+bug/68750117:48
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 687501 in grub2 "when installer is multipath aware, grub fails to install" [High,In progress]17:48
ahayespatdk-wk: I had that issue the first time around, when I ran the installer with disk-detect/multipath/enable=true and tried to install to /dev/mapper/mpath017:49
RoAkSoAxmray: yeah. (but I've never used chef) so the howto will help me figure out things faster :). point me out to your blog post when finished please! :)17:49
patdk-wkmore down17:49
ivoksppetraki: ^ you reported it? :)17:49
patdk-wklooks like an updated grub17:49
* patdk-wk should figure out a way to test multipath sometime17:50
mrayRoAkSoAx: https://github.com/mattray/cookbooks/blob/master/pxe_dust/recipes/server.rb does the work17:50
patdk-wkmultipath iscsi root anyone? :)17:50
mrayit installs tftpd-hpa and apache17:50
mrayand modifies the installer prompt to pass in the url of the preseed and automatically kicks off17:51
mraythe preseed.cfg in that repo is fairly specific, but it automatically adds an apt-cacher repo if you have one17:52
ahayespatdk-wk: You're welcome to connect into this box. :)17:52
ppetrakiivoks, I did?17:53
ivoksppetraki: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/grub2/+bug/68750117:53
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 687501 in grub2 "when installer is multipath aware, grub fails to install" [High,In progress]17:53
ivoksahayes: just install the grub from ppa17:53
ppetrakioh yeah17:53
RoAkSoAxmray: ok cool. Will test this later today :)17:53
ivoksahayes: https://launchpad.net/~cjwatson/+archive/grub17:54
ahayesivoks: I'm just trying to figure out how to do that. :)17:54
patdk-wkadd-apt-repository ppa:cjwatson/grub17:54
patdk-wkI believe17:54
RoAkSoAxhggdh: btw... I started looking into the get-credentials "local" error and it seems that upstream is messing a file/function cause it's simply just not there17:55
ahayesJust need to find add-apt-repository17:55
patdk-wkapt-get install python-software-properties17:56
ahayesThank you. You guys are fast!17:57
cjwatsonoh, yeah, I should push that grub upload to -proposed now that 10.04.2 is out17:57
hggdhRoAkSoAx, that's my take also17:58
hggdhRoAkSoAx, so we mark it triaged, and open an upstream task17:58
RoAkSoAxhggdh: indeed! Will do right after the latest eucalyptus is uploaded so we can file a new bug with that error solely17:58
ahayesHmm… That PPA is for Lucid I think.18:00
patdk-wkthe package is for lucid18:00
patdk-wkppa's can do all at once18:00
cjwatsonyeah, but it needs a different backport to maverick18:01
ahayesFailed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/cjwatson/grub/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found18:01
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patdk-wkya, no maverick package has been uploaded to that ppa yet18:01
cjwatsonI vaguely recall not being worried about keeping access to the machine for that because the maverick backport would be strictly simpler than the lucid one18:01
cjwatsonI'll see what I can do ...18:02
* ivoks thinks that ahayes is playing with us :)18:02
ahayescjwatson: When you talk about pre-seeds in that bug report, would that mean I could have it grab that version during install?18:02
cjwatsonahayes: yes, that's what they're for18:02
cjwatsonthe point of that is so that we can actually test the package before it's promoted to -updates :)18:02
patdk-wkyou could force it on your version18:02
cjwatsonpatdk-wk: not a good plan18:02
patdk-wkif you download the deb18:02
patdk-wkprobably not :)18:02
ahayesivoks: I'm just amazed that all the relavant people for this issue are here and talking with me. :)18:03
cjwatsonI really wouldn't recommend winding grub-pc's version backwards over that particular span of time18:03
ivoksyou get that with microsoft support too :)18:03
* RoAkSoAx off to lunch18:03
cjwatsonahayes: I have another task I really ought to be concentrating on, but after that ...18:04
ivoksthat was sarcasm18:04
ahayesSince you are here, here's what I was *trying* do do originally: Install onto a RAID-1 pair of disks on the other end of multipath.18:04
patdk-wkivoks, I got that kind of support before, for exchange :)18:04
ahayesivoks: I was thinking… microsoft has support?!? ;)18:04
patdk-wknot via ms though, a coworker worked with a former exchange developer :)18:04
ahayescjwatson: No worries. Do you have a maverick multipath box to test/build on? You are welcome to connect into the one here. :)18:06
cjwatsonahayes: no, but IIRC as I say I decided I didn't need one; I'll get back to you if that turns out not to be the case18:07
cjwatsonthe bulk of the work for lucid was very very carefully backporting bits of device handling from maverick18:07
cjwatsonand then applying a fairly small multipath fix on top of that18:07
ahayesShould I just run lucid?18:07
cjwatsonnah, I'll get it fixed for maverick too18:07
ahayesDo you have any comments on installing on RAID-1 over multipath?18:08
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cjwatsonahayes: not really, sorry, it's not my field18:10
ahayesIf I install lucid with the preseed file, and boot the installer with disk-detect/multipath/enable=true, then create a couple RAID-1 devices out of /dev/mapper/mpath0 and 1?18:10
ahayescjwatson: OK. No worries.18:10
cjwatsonin theory that should work ...18:11
cjwatsonif it doesn't, give me a shout I guess :-/18:11
ahayescjwatson: Your preseed file would let me get through the gub install as part of the lucid install.18:11
ahayescjwatson: And would I still install multipath-tools and multipath-tools-boot afterwards?18:12
cjwatsonI guess so18:12
ahayescjwatson: OK. :) I will try and let you know how I fare.18:12
cjwatsonactually, if you set that up as part of the installer, they should be installed for you18:13
ahayescjwatson: What do you mean set up as part of installer?18:13
ahayescjwatson: The boot options?18:13
ivoksahayes: no18:13
cjwatsonno, if you're partitioning multipath devices in the installer, it should know to install multipath-tools/-boot18:14
ivoksyou ca preseed the installation18:14
ivoksand if you put that ppa into the preseed, then it will pull it in and install during the installation18:14
ahayesivoks: You mean the ppa:cjwatson/grub will pull it in?18:16
ivoksahayes: do you know what preseeding is?18:19
ivoksahayes: you can automate whole or just part of installation process18:19
ahayesivoks: No. Not really. I'm readin up on it now.18:19
ivokshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/grub2/+bug/687501/comments/13 is recipe for this ppa18:20
ahayesivoks: I assumed it was a way to over-ride the default packages.18:20
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 687501 in grub2 "when installer is multipath aware, grub fails to install" [High,In progress]18:20
ivoksit's much more than that18:20
ahayesivoks: OK. I'm grabbing the 10.04.2 amd64 server iso right now.18:22
ahayesivoks: I think I've seen the preseed bit in the installer before (expert install?)18:23
ivoksahayes: from experience... preseeding will take some time before you master it :)18:23
ahayesivoks: Ugh. :)18:23
ivoksonce you create preseeding file18:24
ivoksyou just add an option during the installation which will tell the installer where the file is (CD/floppy/HTTP...)18:24
ivoksby creating a file that has only stuff that cjwatson wrote in #13, you'll get what you want for this problem18:25
ivoksput it somewhere on the web server and append the preseed 'command' to the installer18:25
ivoksit's just a location where the file is located18:26
ivoksnext step is to remaster the installation CD so that it includes that file and 'command' by default :)18:27
ahayesivoks: Something like http://gcrc.carleton.ca/~ahayes/grub-preeseed.cfg18:28
ahayesivoks: Hmm… remaster CD…18:30
kirklandhallyn: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/65973725/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-i386.qemu-kvm_0.14.0%2Bnoroms-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz18:35
kirklandhallyn: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-kvm/0.14.0+noroms-0ubuntu2/+buildjob/231015718:36
kirklandhallyn: qemu-kvm i386 failed to build, which is making qemu-kvm uninstallable, as it depends on qemu-common18:36
uvirtbotNew bug: #732160 in squid (main) "package squid 2.7.STABLE9-2.1ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 100" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73216018:50
hallynkirkland: seems like debian/control has issues18:55
hallynbut that's separate18:55
hallynbag toolchain failure18:56
hallynkirkland: i suspect the re-enablement og parallel bujild18:56
hallynbuilds even18:56
ahayescjwatson: Hmm… Am installing 10.04.2 with tweaked ubuntu-server.seed to include your lines, and booting with disk-detect/multipath/enable=true19:01
ahayesAm now at screen that says [!] Partition disks - Unable to determine geometry of file/device /dev/mapper/ellie-root. You should not use Parted unless you REALLY know what you're doing! Warning! Ignore/Cancel19:03
ivoksthat's on the same server?19:04
ahayesI obviously don't know what I'm doing… but does it really have to point that out? ;)19:04
ahayesivoks: Yep.19:04
ivoksyou care about data on the disks?19:04
ahayesivoks: Nope.19:04
ivoksthen hit alt+f219:05
ivoksenter the shell19:05
ivoksadn wipe the disks :)19:05
ahayesivoks: How would you wipe them?19:05
ivoksdd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX count=10 bs=1M19:05
ivoksthat will be enough for partition table and some additional data :)19:06
ivoksreplace X with the correct char19:06
RoyKahayes: that'll overwrite the initial 10MBs with zeros19:08
RoyKso fdisk shouldn't really complain anymore :P19:08
ahayesSuper. I still see a few devices like sda1, sda2, etc.19:09
RoyKthose are partitions19:09
RoyKsda is the drive19:09
RoyKjust wipe the start of the drive19:09
ahayesAh… sda must be the boot cd19:09
ivoksno, it's the disk19:09
RoyKahayes: cat /proc/partitions19:09
ivoksdon't worry about partitions19:10
ivoksreturn to alt+f119:10
ahayesBecause it is giving me dd: can't open '/dev/sda': No medium found19:10
RoyKivoks: a reboot might be handy19:10
ivoksand go back one step in the installer19:10
ivoksparted will rescan the disk19:10
RoyKivoks: if it says that, cat /proc/partitions to see what partitions exists19:10
RoyKextract the device name from that19:10
RoyKit might be sdb or something19:10
RoyKdepending on hardware config19:10
ahayesOK. Will try a reboot. Went back to 'Detect Disks' in installer but still getting the wwarning19:11
RoyKahayes: did you cat /proc/partitions ?19:13
ahayesI did, but I wiped all the other sd* drives. Not sure why sda was giving me grief.19:14
ivoksmaybe it was the CD :)19:14
ahayesIt will be back up in a sec.19:14
zulahayes: are you part of engsoc?19:16
RoyK&whois ahayes19:16
ahayeszul: I haven't heard that term in a *long* time. :)19:16
zulahayes: oh i havent been around carleton in a  loooong time19:17
ahayesI was part of Engsoc when it was on Novel 3.x19:17
RoyKahayes: Novell?19:17
ahayesRoyK: Yep. As in… the old stuff. Can't even remember the name now… all the NetBIOS stuff.19:18
ahayesThat's it. :)19:18
* RoyK was Master CNE on NetWare 4.11 and 519:19
ahayesI was just a 1st year who liked computers. adevries dragged me into helping with the engsoc server.19:20
RoyKremember all those german nights (Abend)19:20
ahayesOK! I'm at the partition disks choices without any observations about my competence. :) That worked.19:21
orudieoh hi ivoks19:21
RoyKlast I touched a netware 3.12 server, it had an uptime of 4.5 years, only because they had had a power outage at the time it went down :P19:22
ahayesAm creating partitions on mpath0 and mpath119:22
ahayesRoyK: Yeah… they did run well in my experience too.19:23
RoyKahayes: btw, it wasn't NetBIOS, that was Microsoft, NetWare used NCP19:25
RoyKIPX FTW!19:25
* RoyK ducks for cover19:25
ahayesRoyK: Stop. My brain can't handle the flashbacks. ;)19:26
* RoyK can remember those SAP/RIP broadcasts bitching our precious hub-based 10Mbps network quite badly19:27
patdk-wkI dunno how they can deal with that on cable modem networks19:28
RoyKcable modem networks have a wee issue there - ARP broadcasts on large domains can toast a bad router...19:29
ahayesShould /boot be ext2?19:29
patdk-wkdoesn't need to be19:29
RoyKahayes: ext2 is very safe for /boot19:29
RoyKbut it doesn't matter, really19:29
RoyKyou won't get the fancy ext[34] stuff you won't need :P19:30
ahayesI saw that it's what the auto-partiion did last time. Just wondered.19:30
patdk-wkgrub2 works with ext419:30
patdk-wkbut grub1 I think ext4 can sometimes confuse it (extents)19:30
RoyKpatdk-wk: no need for journalling or extents on /boot, really19:30
patdk-wkroyk, generally no, but is kind of nice for when your system is running19:31
patdk-wkif it does crash19:31
patdk-wkbut a fsck of /boot is normally fast enough19:31
RoyKpatdk-wk: /boot is hardly touched anyway19:31
patdk-wkhopefully :)19:31
patdk-wkmine seems to only crash when I'm touching /boot19:31
RoyKif so, I'd use ext3, less options that might fail, and better tested19:31
ahayesHere we go. Moment of truth.19:32
RoyKjust use reiser4 for it all and live an interesting life.....19:32
* RoyK prefers boredom to interesting times when it comes to having stable servers19:34
ahayesDum dee dum… just waiting for mkfs.19:36
ahayesFor /boot and /19:37
RoyKahayes: how many drives?19:37
RoyKany mirroring?19:37
ahayesYes. 2 drives in Raid-119:37
RoyKsw or hw?19:37
* RoyK likes this setup http://pastebin.com/GipEC95B19:39
ahayesIt's /boot / and swap on md0,md1, and md2, on top of mpath0 and mpath119:39
RoyKsorry, what's mpath? multipathing?19:40
RoyKerm - I don't get it - you're multipathing to two drives that are mirrored?19:41
ahayesIt's all on a supermicro SC417 chassis with three LSI 9211-8i cards.19:41
RoyKhow many physical drives?19:42
ahayesIt's because the pair of drives are on the SAS backplane like all the others. So they are multipathed.19:42
rnigamHi i just installed a kvm guest using vmbuilder. When I tried to do virsh start vm1 I get this error: Failed to start domain mav-vm119:42
rnigamerror: operation failed: failed to retrieve chardev info in qemu with 'info c dev'19:42
ahayesI've got 12 in there now, but it will take 72 2.5" drives.19:42
RoyKahayes: why aren't you using zfs for this?19:43
RoyKahayes: it's _very_ much better than anything linux has19:43
RoyKthat is, linux has fuse-based zfs, but it somewhat sucks in regards to write speed19:43
ahayesThat was my first thought but OpenSolaris/Nexenta is in a bit of flux right now.19:44
RoyKwe're on OpenIndiana with some 350TB on four boxes19:44
ahayesI wasn't confident that it would all work out in the long run. And meanwhile, btrfs is coming.19:44
RoyKbtrfs has been coming for two years+ and they still don't have anything better than mirroring19:45
RoyKthey're 5+ years behind ZFS19:45
ahayesAnd I like Ubuntu. Especially the lovely #ubuntu-server support. ;)19:45
RoyKahayes: it's your choice, but without ZFS, you won't be able to detect 'silent errors', which are becoming a bigger problem every year19:46
ivoksRoyK: go to #we_depend_on_oracle's_technology :)19:46
RoyKahayes: my advice is: Try OpenIndiana, please, I know it works. We're using it in production and have been for quite some time19:46
RoyKivoks: openindiana is open - it's not controlled by oracle19:47
ahayesThis smells like a battle… please… I'm just a lowly guy trying to run multipath. :)19:47
ahayesI'm still waiting to see if grub installs itself....19:48
RoyKahayes: sure, but I'm quite sure a Linux-based storage setup won't work remotely as well as a zfs-based one. If you're just in the test phase, please test something that can do ZFS natively19:49
ivokszfs freeks :)19:49
ahayesUgh…. Failed.19:50
andolivoks: Well, once you get a taste of it...19:50
ahayes[!!] Configuring grub-pc - Unable to install GRUB in /dev/md0 - Executing 'grub-install /dev/md0' failed. This is a fatal error.19:51
RoyKivoks: would you want to have 350TB on something that doesn't detect data errors, but rather just hope that the drives' CRC is sufficient?19:51
ivoksRoyK: relax19:51
ivoksi was just joking19:51
* RoyK is quite calm :)19:52
ahayesHmm… I'm looking at logs.19:55
ahayesIt says: Is device-mapper missing from kernel?19:56
ahayesAnd: /pro/devices: fopen failed: No such file or directory19:56
RoyKahayes: /pro?19:58
ahayessorry… /proc19:58
RoyKhtf do you type …?19:59
ahayesI have to type it in. Can't cut&paste from IPMI console.20:00
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ahayesSooo… should I continue without the bootloader? Or is there someting I can do at the prompt?20:05
RoAkSoAxDaviey: you still around?20:17
hallynkirkland: are you still around20:17
hallynkirkland: can you re-fire that qemu-kvm i386 build?  I can't reproduce it on porter-i386.  If it fails again I'll make it not use parallel build and that might help, but I'm hoping it was a transient gcc error.20:20
DavieyRoAkSoAx, ack20:32
Davieyhallyn, build re-queued20:33
zulDaviey: were you able to fix that ipmi problem?20:34
Davieyzul, think so20:35
RoAkSoAxDaviey: could take a look at bug #629234 and re-upload the lucid sru please?20:35
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 629234 in vsftpd "package vsftpd 2.2.2-3ubuntu6 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62923420:35
DavieyRoAkSoAx, is there a merged debdiff or bzr branch?20:36
RoAkSoAxDaviey: yes both. The upload got rejected because someone else requested an upload fixing one of the bugs I',m addressing without taking in consideration other bug reports openned.20:37
DavieyRoAkSoAx, you want me to reupload https://code.launchpad.net/~andreserl/ubuntu/lucid/vsftpd/sru1 ?20:38
RoAkSoAxDaviey: correct20:39
hallynDaviey: thanks20:43
a_girlI need help getting my first server up, any takers have time?20:58
lacaferreiraHello Guys, My name is Andrew Ferreira, Brazil I'm from the Ubuntu community. I'm having a problem with Squid Proxy could someone help me?21:00
zee313hi !21:01
zee313I hv downloaded googleearth from http://www.google.com/earth/download/thanks.html#os=linux#linux_dl=deb_3221:01
zee313But unfortunately it is not opening the program21:02
a_girlcan you get in the downloaded file?21:02
zee313plz solve my problem21:02
enquoracan anyone tell me why map_static is reported as an invalid keyword in my nfs exports file?21:03
ScottK!ask | a_girl21:03
ubottua_girl: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)21:03
Patrickdkstrange flood of people21:03
ScottKzee313: Since that pacakge isn't part of Ubuntu, you're probably better off asking the providers of the package for help.21:03
a_girlScottK: it's more than one question and I'd like to know someone has an hour+ to help me through this21:03
ScottKa_girl: Probably no one has that kind of time to dedicate to you, but if you start asking your questions, the odds are reasonable that someone will have time for most of them if you are patient.21:04
lacaferreiraMy Squid performs block msn according to the user account, authorized users accessed normally from both a time for another authorized users started receiving the error when trying to login 800488eb. anyone have any idea?21:05
a_girlI've just installed 10.10 with webserver enabled and openssh enabled, but had no connection where it was in the house, so I didn't set up DHCP or internet.  I moved it to there there is internet but there's no room for plugs/periferials so I need to access it remotely21:05
a_girlfrom there, I think I have it21:06
a_girlScottK: how's that?21:06
Patrickdkdoesn't explain much at all, but21:06
Patrickdkdid you give it an ip address?21:06
a_girlI did not set it to an ipaddress21:07
Patrickdkif it's not set for dhcp, and doesn't have a static ip, there will be no way to access it21:07
ScottKa_girl: I think the default is to dhcp, so if you've installed ssh server you should be able to boot it with a network connection and just ssh in.21:07
a_girlI tried to ssh into it, but the connection times out.21:08
hallynkim0: I'm not ignoring you btw, just got spice 0.8.0 package built locally, doing qemu next, then ill push to ppa if it all works21:08
a_girlalso; I'm using at&t uverse, so all the computers use 1 ipaddress21:08
RoAkSoAxhggdh: ping21:09
a_girlstill in college, so I have nil power over internet21:09
a_girlhow do I set up DHCP from cli?21:15
Patrickdkman interfaces21:16
Patrickdkjust two lines needed21:16
Patrickdkstrange, no dhcp example21:16
Patrickdkauto eth021:17
a_girlssh should be: ssh negativeone@
hggdhRoAkSoAx, give me one minute21:17
Patrickdkiface eth0 inet dhcp21:17
RoAkSoAxhggdh: sure thingy ;)21:17
hggdhRoAkSoAx, ready :-) thank you21:17
RoAkSoAxhggdh: by any chnage you have a maverick box to verify a SRU? :)21:18
* RoyK wants IPv621:18
hggdhRoAkSoAx, not now, but we can create one21:18
hggdhRoAkSoAx, what do you need there?21:18
RoAkSoAxhggdh: bug #67776421:19
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 677764 in vsftpd "vsftpd postinstall checks for user/group starting with ftp" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67776421:19
jkg_RoyK: bah, a couple of hours ago you were all about IPX. what happened to you? ;)21:19
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RoyKjkg: that was just talking of Old Times21:19
RoyKIPX is quite dead :þ21:19
jkg(thankfully ;) )21:19
hggdhRoAkSoAx, I will iso-install one now21:20
RoAkSoAxhggdh: awesome. thanks!21:20
Patrickdkit's alive and kicking (need it to play doom and descent)21:20
a_girliface command not found21:24
a_girlneed help configuring ip address from cli21:24
genii-arounda_girl: That line beginning with "iface" is what you put into the /etc/network/interfaces file21:24
genii-aroundAlternately, if you just want a one-off: sudo dhclient eth0                   might work21:27
kim0hallyn: thank you man! you're my hero :)21:32
a_girlworked!  Thanks!21:32
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a_girlanyone know about distributing the server load across multiple machines?21:41
a_girlneed to know how to do that21:42
Patrickdk!google loadbalancer21:42
ubottuI have no google command, use http://www.google.com/21:42
ScottKIt depends a lot on what kind of load you are trying to distribute.21:42
andygraybealwhen do yuo guys think btrfs will be ready for production?  a few  years or a few months?21:45
laenandygraybeal: in a year, wild guess.21:46
andygraybealyea, thank you for the wild guess.21:46
andygraybeal :)21:46
Davieyhallyn, I you seeking sponsorship for open-vms-* ?22:10
hallynDaviey: are you asking me if i am?22:11
Davieyerr yeah, sorry.22:13
hallynDaviey: i'd have done a merge request by now, but i'm convinced someone will come back with all sorts of nit-picks :)22:13
Davieyhallyn, funny guy :)22:13
hallynDaviey: shoudl i do a bzr merge request and ask you?22:13
RoAkSoAxDaviey: almost done with the eucalyptus changes, just waiting to build in PPA to test22:13
DavieyRoAkSoAx, awesome :)22:14
Davieyhallyn, Just looking at the dupe count, would be good to get it fixed soon :)22:14
Davieyhallyn, so yeah, if it's not too scary delta (not looked yet), happy to do that now22:15
hallynDaviey: yeah.  i was just waiting for a confirmation, but someone did say it worked for them22:15
hallynDaviey: the delta *is* scary.  no helping that22:15
hallynill point you to it :)22:15
hallynDaviey: done.  merge request assigned to you for lp:~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/natty/open-vm-tools/merge-2011.02.23-36870022:19
Davieyhallyn, Thanks... when it states "The diff has been truncated for viewing."   ... i know i want to cry.22:22
hallynDaviey: you could just as well get the open-vm-tools git tree and 'git diff 2010.06.16..2011.02.23'22:24
Davieyhallyn, I don't suppose you have a decent upstream changelog do you?22:24
hallynin fact, let me just...22:24
hallynDaviey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/578064/22:26
Davieygood stuff!22:26
hallynthat's diffstat, not changelog22:26
hallynsummary: 749 files changed, 120530 insertions(+), 88117 deletions(-)22:27
hallyndo we know ebroder?  he used to package it...  i wonder if we should seek his blessing22:27
hallyn(and save you the pain)22:28
Davieyhallyn, Yes - that is a good idea!22:28
Davieyhallyn, cherry picking a specific fix is not viable?22:29
hallynhm, i guess he only did it once.  i thought i'd seen his name more than that22:29
hallynDaviey: no, that's what iw as trying yesterday22:29
Davieyhallyn, Yeah, if you spent a good amount of time on it, then perhaps this is the best approach.22:30
hallynDaviey: after replacing the ioctl stuff, i only proceeded to further kernel module build breakages.  I could try again...22:30
Davieyhallyn, I don't suppose you know what debian's plans are do you?22:30
hallynDaviey: i don't.  I emailed the list (mentioned in control) + daniel, no response22:31
hallynI figured I would email them again with a debdiff or, more likely, link to the bzr tree22:31
hallynDaviey: emailed them and cc:d you22:38
rnigamHello everyone , if any one has solution or suggestion ot this thread :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10542465#post10542465 please reply in the thread. Thanks,22:41
Davieyhallyn, So, Debian has bumped the epoch... so i'm less concerned about us getting ahead of debian... on this.22:41
Davieyhallyn, good, thanks for the mail - lets see if they respond tomorrow.22:45
hallynDaviey: 'bumped the epoch' ?22:48
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Davieyhallyn, you are proposing 2011.02.23-368700-0ubuntu1 right?22:51
Davieyhallyn, well Debian has 1:8.4.2-261024-1 .... the 1: is the epoch, and that trumps yours which is an implied 0:22:52
Davieyso even if yours gets uploaded as is, it's technically a lower version than Debian's current22:53
Davieyeven tho yours is a newer upstream version :)22:53
DavieySo come next cycle, we know we can still sync/merge no matter what.22:54
hallynthat's a good thing?22:56
uvirtbotNew bug: #732306 in php5 (main) "php escapeshellarg removes £ incorrectly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73230622:57
RoAkSoAxDaviey: done: https://code.launchpad.net/~andreserl/ubuntu/natty/eucalyptus/lp732082/+merge/5278023:04
Davieyhallyn, Yes... I'm saying that there is no fear of us getting too far ahead of Debian, meaning we either need to fudge the verison or maintain our own stuff till the end of dawn23:05
Davieyhallyn, We can sync next cycle if/when they caught up.23:05
Davieyhallyn, I think you need to reference that it is a newer version than the one in Debian, incase some does a drive by merge / sync next cycle.23:06
Davieyhallyn, But I think it is /reasonable/ to raise a FFe, with some ambiguity about what the features of new version snapshot - stating you have spent significant time trying to bisect a fix, and the current one is totally unusable.23:07
uvirtbotNew bug: #732314 in squid (main) "package squid 2.7.STABLE9-2.1ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 100" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73231423:11
DavieyRoAkSoAx, Hmm... lp:ubuntu/$release/eucalyptus is only used post release.:(23:12
DavieyRoAkSoAx, see the merge conflicts :/23:12
RoAkSoAxDaviey: what's your branch again?23:14
DavieyRoAkSoAx, bzr diff -c-1 > ../patch ; bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-virt/ubuntu/natty/eucalyptus/natty ; cd natty ; patch -p0 < ../patch23:15
Davieyflat patches ++ :)23:16
RoAkSoAxk give me a sec then23:17
Davieyhmm.... you might need to bzr diff -c-1 debian/ ; actually.... the .pc has made it a pain in the bum23:20
Davieyit's just debian/ changes, right?23:20
RoAkSoAxDaviey: yah you can just download the diff and the bzr patch ../xyz.diff23:20
RoAkSoAxgotta run for a bit23:20
DavieyRoAkSoAx, Okay, i'll probably attack this my tomorrow now23:21
DavieyRoAkSoAx, nice one.23:21
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