[00:05] hggdh: maybe is gonna be best to take that out from eucalyptus-common into a new package [00:06] RoAkSoAx, o/ [00:07] Daviey: ok so I was thinking, what's the purpose of euca-* commands? [00:07] Daviey: are those to be run only [00:07] on the CLC [00:07] or on any machine that install eucalyptus-common? [00:08] RoAkSoAx, euca-* could be run remotely [00:08] from a machine external to the cloud [00:09] the hell is that there are euca-* in euca2ools and in eucalyptus* [00:09] hggdh: uhmmm === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [00:11] RoAkSoAx, nothing prohibits you from installing euca2ools on your laptop and using it there to control an Eucalyptus cloud elsewhere (or EC2) [00:12] hggdh: ok so as far as I can see the [00:12] python module euca_admin is only shipped with the eucalyptus source [00:13] yes. It seems to be used by some *other* euca-* -- like add-user, delete-user, and perhaps others -- [00:13] while euca2ools ships a whole set of euca-* commands that do not use the euca_admin module [00:13] yes [00:14] these seem to be restricted to running under the cloud [00:14] Daviey: hggdh so what we could do is separate those euca-* commands and moduel into a separate packages and maybe from euca2ools also install them/it as a Dependency [00:14] hggdh: right euca_admin module seems to be run under the could [00:14] RoAkSoAx, I would like to know *why* eucalyptus split the euca-*, first of all [00:15] hggdh: because those binaries that use euca_admin seem to be only for the CLC: the source is organized as: /clc/tools/src/euca_admin/ [00:16] before we go and split them. the euca-* admin functions would -- most probably -- be restricted to the CLC, I do not know why [00:16] since -common is installed in the CLC, there is no missing dependency [00:16] hggdh: whose the contact in eucalytpus for this? [00:16] RoAkSoAx, Dmitrii, or Daniel, IIRC [00:16] hggdh: right but -common is also installed in the NC,CC,walrus, sc [00:17] hggdh: nicknames? [00:17] hum [00:17] on the #eucalyptus channel... [00:18] cerealkllr is, I think, Daniel [00:19] deckie is from Eucalyptus, but I do not remember his name... Chris? [00:19] I do not see any that I would associate with Dmitrii, but I do not remember even chatting with him [00:21] RoAkSoAx, another bit of data: I can create an user with euca-add-user, but the user is created disabled, and I cannot see how to enable it :-( [00:31] hggdh: ok so I guess the best is to separate the euca-* binaries shipped in eucalyptus-common into its own separate package [00:31] Daviey: ^^ [00:32] RoAkSoAx, I agree. But, for consistency, euca-get-credentials should be in this new package, should it not? [00:32] hggdh: I believe it should [00:33] and we should add a depends on eucalyptus so that it would be autoinstalled on the CLC [00:33] eucalyptus-admin-tools probably [00:33] hggdh: yeah [00:34] probably on eucalyptus-cloud (I guess) [00:34] hggdh: i guess we should add the depend in eucalyptus-cloud [00:34] situation: 6.06 md raid1 + lvm + lilo, worked great for 2 years sans kernel updates... finally decided to update kernel, reboot, hosed. Cannot boot, not even the backup kernel which is awesome. Two things that concerned me when doing updates was for lvm2 and udev. I probably should of known better with lvm2 since its metadata is not backwards compatible and apparently lilo freaked. udev, well, that also caused lilo to freak do to dev [00:34] mapping changing on it, it threw warnings, but internet said it was ok to ignore. Long story short, I have a perfectly valid md array and lvm(2?) setup that I can reliably access in rescue mode, but I cannot, for the last 10 hours, get lilo to run so I can install an new/old/different kernel image. [00:35] yeah [00:35] if anyone would be so kind, I would gladly buy something off their wishlist as this is killing me. [00:35] hggdh: lest see what daviey says about this [00:36] RoAkSoAx, yup. I am not sure this is the right moment... [00:37] RoAkSoAx, meanwhile... bug 731702 [00:37] Launchpad bug 731702 in eucalyptus "euca-add-user adds a new disabled user, and there is no visible way to enable it " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/731702 [00:37] :-) [00:38] hggdh: hehe alrighty will take a look at it tomorrow [00:38] and this is it for today. Gonna watch some Family Guy now :-) [00:40] hggdh: same here :P [00:40] * benlake sobs a bit [00:44] any comments on setting up bridge network for kvm guests anyone? [00:44] ubuntu-server is the host and the guest [00:46] rnigam: did you try the ubuntu kvm docs? [00:59] pmatuils: Going through them but I must confess don't have an indepth networking knowledge. [01:01] So my network admin has given me a set of ips that I can use for vm's i am creating [01:01] Do I still need a bridge? [01:02] according to the ubuntu kvm docs [01:04] eth0 must be set manual and br0 must have static address with bridge_ports=eth0 set! so does this mean all my vms traffic will pass through the br0 interface? [01:07] I would like to use the EBS version of Ubuntu 10.10 for Amazon EC2. Does that VM have the entire OS stored on EBS (i.e., will stuff I install be persistent)? [01:11] rnigam: you want a bridge if you need to be able to contact the guests from an external host (ex: ssh into the guest) [01:13] w1k3d: no, the OS will not reside on the EBS volume. to do that, you need to do some special trickery [01:13] pmatulis: How can I put everything on EBS? [01:15] or, be able to save the modified image [01:15] w1k3d: Yes, The OS will reside on the root EBS volume if you are running an EBS boot instance. Your entire file system will persist except for (by default) things under /mnt which is the ephemeral storage. [01:15] oh, i see [01:16] "will persist" = through stop/start cycles, but not (by default) if you "terminate" the instance. [01:16] i wasn't sure if "EBS" instance meant that there was just an EBS volume mounted or if it meant everyting was on EBS. [01:16] what's the difference? [01:17] good day, is there someone willing to help me setup a VPS for Ruby on Rails? [01:17] or at least answer some questions about the process.. [01:17] w1k3d: I don't understand the question. When you run an EBS boot instance the root file system is on an EBS volume. [01:18] w1k3d: sorry, i thought you were using UEC [01:18] ok, that's what i wanted [01:18] but why will terminating cause me to lose my data? [01:20] w1k3d: If you "terminate" the instance, then EC2 deletes your EBS volume (by default). If you "stop" the instance, the volume is still there and you can "start" the instance again. [01:20] ah, i see. That's quite tricky naming. [01:20] thanks [01:21] w1k3d: It is possible to keep your EBS volume around if you modify some instance attributes before terminating, but it's rare you want that. [01:22] w1k3d: I wrote some related info here: http://alestic.com/2010/01/ec2-instance-locking [01:23] isn't the normal way to back it up to s3 if you wanted to keep it? === rn is now known as rnigam [01:42] pmatulis, w1k3d, a t1.micro is fully hosted and bootable in a EBS image. [01:43] Patrickdk: It is possible to create EBS snapshots of any EBS volume (including the root EBS volume on an EBS boot instance). EBS snapshots are stored in S3 (eleven 9's of reliability). [01:50] I totally dont get google [01:50] something keeps accessing my webserver, from a google owned ip block [01:50] but it's not googlebot or something [01:50] it has no ptr for the ip, and that is odd for google [01:50] but it does several hundred http connections per second [01:51] today from ip's 72.14.194.17 and 72.14.194.18 [02:17] patdk-lap, nmap on those IPs outputs something useful? [02:19] so while booting, lvm dies complaining about a pv it can't find and the system drops into busybox [02:21] 6.06, the only lvm command I have is vgchange, which I do a vgchange -ay --partial and get root/boot/swap active, but I have no other lvm programs to remove the disk (that isn't really in use) and I'm not sure how to continue booting. Any ideas? [02:25] All filtered. [02:34] benlake: hmm, I'm not sure [02:34] benlake: the lvm master command should be present [02:35] lifeless: sadly, it is not [02:46] anyone know why postfix can't send email, and generates this error when trying to send via CLI? postdrop: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory [02:48] you really messed with the config file pretty good [02:48] and messed up master.cf [03:00] * EvilPhoenix grumbles [03:00] the original sendmail package that was packaged with ubuntu didnt work either [03:01] The postfix package as shipped has no such problems, so the configuration or something else has been changed. [03:02] i've run dpkg-reconfigure on it 8 times [03:02] still seems to be f'd [03:03] the issue occurred with the out-of-the-box sendmail package which postfix replaced [03:03] any idea how i can fix this? [03:03] Purge it (sudo apt-get purge postfix), make sure any residual files in /etc/postfix are removed, then reinstall postfix. [03:03] You can't install postfix and sendmail packages at the same time. [03:04] i know that [03:04] this issue was already existent prior to apt-get purge sendmail; apt-get install postfix [03:37] I changed my DHCP range on my Ubuntu server, but when I PXE boot systems to it, it grabs the old range. What do I have to change for PXE to use the new range? [03:40] EvilPhoenix: that sounds like one of postfix's spool directories is buggered (e.g. doesn't exist, or bad ownership/permissions) [03:40] EvilPhoenix: #postfix would probably have a better idea [03:48] twb: strange thing is it happens on a Debian Squeeze box too, which makes me thing its a more global issue, like f'd disk images or something [03:50] twb: i'll take a look there later, thanks [03:51] nobody familiar with pxe boot? [03:55] roasted_: the ubuntu server is the DHCP and TFTP server? [03:56] twb, yes [03:56] Im using LTSP. The clients PXE boot to it and pulls down the Ubuntu image accordingly. [03:57] I'm setting up a test environment here at home, but I use 1.X here at home so I wanted to change the third octet of 0's to 1's so I could get through the gateway etc. [03:57] But now that I did that, when I PXE boot, it's still looking for 0.X [03:57] So I got to wonder if I needed to edit a PXE file to for 1.X usage since I changed the range. [03:59] I don't know what you mean by "0.x" and "1.x" [04:00] 192.168.0.X vs 192.168.1.X [04:01] You shouldn't use either of those, because EVERYONE uses them [04:02] that's the point [04:02] Im setting up a test environment here. at home. [04:02] I use 192.168.1.X, so I WANT to use that to mesh up with the network. [04:02] But with 0.X I'm unable to get through the gateway. I cant install updates, etc. [04:03] So I swapped my DHCP range and IP on the server to be 192.168.1.X but the PXE boot still pulls 192.168.0.X addresses [04:03] Er, DHCP and PXE do not work across gateways [04:03] well when I have a static IP of 192.168.0.254 (it assigned this by default with LTSP) I cant get external access [04:03] and I want external access... [04:03] But if you're getting a DHCPACK in 192.168.0/24 from the DHCP server, it's because you haven't reconfigured it properly [04:05] roasted_: you cannot simply statically assign an address at random and have return packets routed back to you [04:05] I think Im missing a file [04:05] because I need a gateway, right [04:05] No [04:05] You need to reconfigure the router to handle 192.168.0/24 as well as 192.168.1/24 [04:06] If you add a gateway, you packets will get out, but the response packets will never get to you because your router won't know you exist [04:07] I'd rather just switch to 1.X since I may have to do it at work anyway when I most the setup there [04:07] so I'd like to learn how to swap the entire range [04:07] I'm not stopping you [04:09] how would I do it in ubuntu alone, taking pxe out of it [04:09] change the DHCP range that is [04:09] That depends what DHCP server you're using [04:09] Im using ubuntu for the dhcp server. [04:09] Ubuntu ships several. [04:10] dhcp3 [04:10] Dunno [04:10] how do I find out what Im using [04:10] netstat -nlp, look at what is LISTEN on the UDP bootps port [04:10] Which is port 67 [04:16] hi guys. I'm looking for details on kernel versions: server, generic, virtual, preempt. where an I find details & differences re each? [04:17] so does anybody know how to change the dhcp scope in ubuntu? [04:19] kieppie: there's stuff out there. I really haven't found too much. but there's this dated piece: http://www.serverwatch.com/tutorials/article.php/3716396/Ubuntu-Server-Kernel-Comparisons-and-Implementation-Issues.htm [04:20] thanks Datz [04:20] np [04:20] oh I guess that isn't from the start of the article [04:35] kieppie1: I guess you could follow the method they do in the article to figure out the difference. If you do, you might write an article for the rest of us. :P [04:36] thnx [04:38] Datz: I just find it hard to believe such a basic, fundamental & critical function is totally undocumented [04:39] kieppie1: yea, maybe I just haven't found more on it. It's been awhile since I looked [04:41] New bug: #731763 in openldap2 (main) "libldap-2.4-2 does not install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/731763 [04:42] kieppie1: simply install them and diff the /boot/config-* files [04:43] yea, that's what they did in the article.. I may have to do this.. [04:43] kieppie1: compared to generic, server has PAE enabled, and virtual has a number of drivers and things disabled (because they don't exist on virtual systems) [04:45] orly? reinventing the wheel much rather than rtfm? i.e. does the virtual refer to the kernel suited for virt hosts or clients (diff totally undocumented)? I know server is for server & generic suitable for desktops. [04:46] I'd like to rtfm, if only fm's on subject were available [04:47] kieppie1: why would a diff need to be documented? [04:47] kieppie1: it's an automated process [04:48] doesn't need to be, but it would be nice :) [04:48] because it's an option available @ install, & I've encountered similar choices in the past. I've usually gone with server or generic, but I'd like to have a better idea of the choices I'm making [04:56] this goes some way towards addressing the question: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_lucid_kernels&num=1 [04:56] not the simple answer for the simple question posed, but will have to do... [08:40] how to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 ? [08:41] !upgrade [08:41] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade [10:02] New bug: #731849 in cloud-init (main) "CloudConfig.setup_user_keys should not hardcode the authorized_keys location" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/731849 [10:20] phoenixsampras: i like to sacrifice virgin chickens and fry amputated frog legs then hope for the best after clicking upgrade [10:27] New bug: #731859 in squid (main) "package squid 2.7.STABLE7-1ubuntu12.2 failed to install/upgrade: el subproceso instalado el script post-installation devolvió el código de salida de error 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/731859 [10:27] I get Error # 500 instead of 404 when i try to access a non-exisiting file - what could cause the problem? it's the default installation of 10.04 LTS withouth modification in config [10:27] forget to write that i'm using apache2 [10:29] memoryleak: could be some rewrite rule or an invalid/non-functioning ErrorDocument [10:29] memoryleak: check your error log [10:31] i switched to LogLevel Debug and i get "redirected from r->uri = /index.php" [10:31] but there is no .htaccess file [10:31] memoryleak: the apache httpd configuration doesn't only consist of .htaccess files [10:32] there is no redirect in either [10:33] memoryleak: ErrorDocument, RewriteRule etc. [10:33] did grep -ir index.php /etc/apache2/ and got something in dir.conf [10:34] /etc/apache2/mods-available/dir.conf: DirectoryIndex index.html index.cgi index.pl index.php index.xhtml index.htm - and that's it [10:35] i have this issue on all sites [10:36] ok solved the problem - there was an .htaccess in the parent folder of the document_root, thanks for your help joschi [10:56] New bug: #731878 in amavisd-new (main) "amavis force-reload crashes amavis" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/731878 [11:01] New bug: #731879 in libpam-ldap (main) "libpam-ldap depends on ldap-auth-client" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/731879 [11:02] hallyn: is it a lot of work to rebuild your ppa pkgs after syncing with spice-0.8 and the updated kvm [11:04] hello. Anyone here who has any help to offer or any tips for retrieving data from a hacked server? [11:05] joeskil: ask your provider to backup everything. then reinstall the complete server. [11:06] hehe. I am the provider. it is my testing-server. but on it, I had a little phpBB forum, and I don't know how to get to my SQL data [11:08] joeskil: give yourself admin rights to mysql and dump the complete db? [11:10] TheInfinity: yes, off course... But there will be no harm done if I hook up the server again? I mean. can I prevent the hack attacks from happening while working on the server? [11:11] TheInfinity: And thanks. I really didn't think of the DB dumping.... [11:12] joeskil: you really should rethink about your server security, yes. and i would have a look at the dump if theres strange data in it. [11:13] TheInfinity: Thanks. It should be quite easy to get the data, as there are only 3 users on the phpBB [11:14] TheInfinity: I have, after the attack, installed a Smoothwall firewall on my network. and, also tightened the security in accordance to how-to's on the net [11:15] joeskil: yea, things like always updated software (also phpbb software) + no ssh password login + fail2ban + ... are essential. [11:17] TheInfinity: Thanks. I am learning... so sad I lost the setup just now before I made any backup. Well. lesson learned [11:18] hallyn: no FFe needed, as you had the release candidate in the archive before FF; here we're just bumping from an RC to the GA, which is generally desirable, no new features added [11:18] hallyn: i just built/tested, i'm uploading now [11:21] kirkland: are you talking about spice ? [11:22] kim0: um, no, i don't think so [11:22] ok [11:22] kim0: just hallyn's qemu-kvm-0.14 upload [11:22] well that's the one that was built with spice suport [11:37] New bug: #669940 in keyutils (main) "Keyutils is not installed automatically when upgrading 10.04 > 10.10" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/669940 [11:47] * Daviey ^5's kirkland for 0.14.0+noroms-0ubuntu2. [11:47] * kirkland ^5s Daviey because he is awersome [11:48] * kirkland adds an "r" to awesome so that he speaks in Queen's English [11:48] heh [11:48] * jpds wonders if the Queen has said 'awesome' in the past. [11:58] TheInfinity: Have you got another minute? I booted up my old server, and hooked it to the network behind smoothwall so that it can only send and receive on LAN, no data beyond the firewall. [11:59] TheInfinity: But the hackers have somehow prevented MySQL from starting, and I don't have privelieges to start my own SQL daemon [11:59] have to go now. sorry. :) [12:00] TheInfinity: Oh ok. Thanks anyway. Thanks a bunch! [12:00] joeskil: what's the problem with mysql start? [12:02] remix_tj: will cut/paste in a few secs [12:02] k [12:02] sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart * Stopping MySQL database server mysqld [ OK ] * Starting MySQL database server mysqld [fail] [12:03] joeskil: try this [12:03] jpds, Didn't you listen to last years Queen's speech? "This has been an awesome year" ... she said it. [12:04] joeskil, You have admin access on the server? [12:04] joeskil: sudo mysqld --verbose [12:04] yes. as far as I know. it is my server [12:04] :D [12:05] joeskil, I was responding to, "I don't have privelieges to start my own SQL daemon" [12:06] joeskil: [12:06] Daviey: yes. that was badly put. I have root access, but with root, I can't start my MySQL. in /var/log/messages it suggests that I am denied: [12:07] Daviey: Mar 9 13:00:10 punkbuster kernel: [ 1596.372384] type=1503 audit(1299672010.149:115): operation="inode_permission" requested_mask="r::" denied_mask="r::" fsuid=0 name="/sys/devices/system/cpu/" pid=5755 profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld" [12:08] remix_tj: joe@punkbuster:~$ sudo mysqld --verbouse 110309 13:05:35 InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 9656380 110309 13:05:35 [ERROR] mysqld: unknown option '--verbouse' 110309 13:05:35 [ERROR] Aborting 110309 13:05:35 InnoDB: Starting shutdown... 110309 13:05:36 InnoDB: Shutdown completed; log sequence number 0 9656380 110309 13:05:36 [Warning] Forcing shutdown of 1 plugins 110309 13:05:36 [Note] mysqld: Shutdown comp [12:08] joeskil: [12:08] sudo mysqld_safe --verbose [12:09] remix_tj: joe@punkbuster:~$ sudo mysqld_safe --verbose 110309 13:06:47 mysqld_safe Logging to '/var/lib/mysql/punkbuster.err'. 110309 13:06:47 mysqld_safe Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/lib/mysql 110309 13:06:49 mysqld_safe mysqld from pid file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid ended joe@punkbuster:~$ [12:09] joeskil: tail /var/log/punkbuster.err [12:09] sorry [12:09] joeskil: tail /var/log/mysql/punkbuster.err [12:10] remix_tj: no such file [12:11] but wait [12:11] joeskil: /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld [12:12] joeskil: copy the content of that file to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [12:12] remix_tj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577807/ [12:13] joeskil: is not a command, is a file... [12:14] copy the content of that file [12:15] remix_tj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577809/ [12:16] joeskil: add this row before the last } [12:16] /sys/devices/system/cpu/ r, [12:17] then launch sudo /etc/init.d/apparmor restart [12:19] remix_tj: done [12:23] remix_tj: any other tips? [12:24] remix_tj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577813/ [12:26] joeskil: did you add? [12:26] oh yes [12:26] remix_tj: yes [12:27] joeskil: now restart apparmor sudo /etc/init.d/apparmor restart then start mysql [12:28] now is starting my lunchtime [12:28] i'll be back in 2 hours [12:29] remix_tj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577814/ [12:30] oh shoot... [12:34] kim0: no, what kirkland uploaded was not with spice support [12:34] * kim0 nods [12:35] kirkland: awesome,thanks :) [12:35] hallyn: np [12:36] hallyn: not sure if you've read the messages I left yesterday. Basically win7 works fine with spice with/without qxl driver (Great!). What doesn't work is sound and the embedded virt-viewer widget in virt-manager [12:36] now to try uploading my vmbuilder bugfix as my daily test whether I have upload rights :) [12:36] hehe [12:36] kim0: virt-viewer widget I don't know what to do about offhand. We can look at libvirt and vmtools and virt-viewer and see if we need spice-enabled versions [12:37] kim0: so do you think we should stick with the versions in ppa for now? [12:37] all the better of so, one thing less on my todo list [12:37] hallyn: in a ppa is fine for me [12:37] you mean what is now in ppa is fine? [12:37] but we can sync to latest stable 0.8 release ? [12:37] that's what i was asking [12:37] ok, i'll do that [12:37] awesome [12:38] hallyn: ping me once ppa rebuilds .. I'll retest [12:38] ok === ogra is now known as Guest90542 === Guest90542 is now known as ogra_ [13:07] New bug: #514544 in backuppc (main) "BackupPC_archiveStart script broken" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/514544 [13:12] hi today when i am trying to login, its taking more time (4 o 5 min). [13:14] so how do i solve that.. plz. help [13:30] does anybody know where and the deadline to submit talks for the next uds? [13:34] bencer: there aren't real 'talks' at uds, but I don't think calls for blueprints for sessions have gone out yet [13:34] yes, blueprints... :) don't get used to that name [13:34] there are the plenary talks [13:35] hallyn: do you know when approximately will be open? probably keeping an eye on planet ubuntu will be enough, isn't it? [13:36] bencer: I should think so. no i don't know when, but UDS being in May I would expect another month before the call goes out [13:37] ogra_: true. those can generally get scheduled pretty much on the spot though right? :) [13:37] hi [13:38] i have configured a webdav server that accept SSL connections, now it works with windows client but i can't execute anything [13:38] hallyn, i think if there are open spots, yeah [13:38] i gave 777 permissions but in windows cant be executed directly [13:38] i can download them though [13:38] any advice is welcomed [13:39] ok thanks hallyn ogra_ [13:41] New bug: #731976 in samba (main) "Can't access Windows 7 computer via SAMBA" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/731976 [13:43] i guess that's a coincidence [13:50] HackeMate: (sorry, no ignoring you, I just don't know much about webdav - SpamapS may be able to help you in a bit) [13:51] thanks -- Im patient [14:07] morning all [14:07] smoser, good morning, do we have a proposed ec2 kernel for karmic? [14:21] joeskil: are you there? [14:21] *here [14:24] remix_tj: now I am here! :) Are you? [14:28] yes [14:29] joeskil: what about /var/log/syslog ? [14:29] joeskil: try starting mysql and then if fails do tail -n 200 /var/log/mail.log [14:29] azz [14:29] tail -n 200 /var/log/syslog [14:29] (wrong file) [14:29] an paste [14:30] remix_tj: wait. i have to switch locations and computer. [14:30] ok [14:31] i'll wait === ogra_ is now known as ogra [14:39] remix_tj: back [14:42] remix_tj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577859/ [14:51] joeskil: tail -n 200 /var/log/messages ? [14:51] hallyn: hi! you have upload rights for libvirt now, correct? (ie, I don't need to sponsor your people.canonical.com/~serge/libvirt_0.8.8-1ubuntu2.debdiff anymore) [14:56] remix_tj: I lost connection for a while. I posted the output. [14:57] How can I completely remove a KVM guest image from a ubuntu server. I did virsh destroy vm1 but the image is still present with 'shutoff' flag (virsh list --all) === andreas__ is now known as ahasenack [14:59] the image is a file, most of the time [14:59] sometimes its a /dev/x [15:00] Oy [15:01] When booting latest maverick EBS image, I miss the nls_cp437.ko and friends [15:01] find /lib/modules/|grep nls > not much [15:01] But the ubuntu-maverick.git kernel config seems to have them [15:01] are these getting stripped out somehow? [15:02] New bug: #732028 in squid (main) "package squid 2.7.STABLE7-1ubuntu12.2 failed to install/upgrade: подпроцесс установлен сценарий post-installation возвратил код ошибки 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/732028 [15:03] this is on i386 BTW [15:04] remix_tj: did you hit escape? :) [15:07] jdstrand: no, my rights are not yet in effect [15:11] lool, Hmm... I think you need to talk to the kernel team, but keep smoser in the loop. [15:11] lool, I don't think smoser modifies the kernel from what they build for him. [15:12] hello guys [15:12] Morning server peeps [15:12] Daviey: I moved to #ubuntu-kernel already, thanks for confirming though, appreciated [15:12] quick survey...anyone using anything for automation/config management? i.e. something like puppet? [15:12] lool, i should have looked :) [15:12] I've had an asterisk setup in the past, didn't lasted because of management, now the buzz about web conference has found its place again, and I want to setup something for web conference. What do you recommend? Fast is the dominating point here. [15:13] thafreak: allot of people are using puppet now. [15:13] any web meeting software or "go for asterisk anyways" will do it [15:14] thanks thesheff17 [15:14] thesheff17: there's also chef, which it's a personal preference because it's configuration is a ruby DSL ;) [15:14] yeah, I shy away from ruby syntax :) my brain just doesn't grok it yet... [15:15] thafreak: ok, then puppet yourself ;) [15:15] yea I'm also a python guy so I haven't used chef or puppet [15:15] puppet has its own syntax but is also ruby [15:15] I remember seeing something about ubuntu server and cobbler...wasn't sure if something other than puppet was more "official" for ubuntu [15:16] anyone know if there's articles on the official server wiki's for this area? [15:16] like there is for postfix and ldap [15:18] kirkland: bug #731922 fixed :) Should build now though [15:18] Launchpad bug 731922 in testdrive "testdrive's local uec-image testing broken" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/731922 [15:18] thafreak: http://zulcss.wordpress.com/2011/01/19/using-cobbler-on-ubuntu/ [15:19] is cobbler comparable to puppet, or does it try to solve a different set of problems [15:20] i.e. is it apples to apples, or apples to oranges [15:20] thafreak: puppet afaik is used for remote configuration management, while cobbler is a provision service (remote installation) [15:21] ok...I thought they were slightly different...cobbler works with kickstart right? [15:21] thafreak: yes [15:22] so you'd probably use both cobler and puppet together then....cobler to get the initial install, then puppet to configure the server for specific tasks? [15:23] Also, I found on the main wiki, it really only talks about puppet [15:23] thafreak: correct cobbler + puppet [15:23] so, I'm guessing that's got the most support...or atleast the most motivated wiki authors [15:23] thafreak: wikipage link? [15:26] https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/remote-administration.html [15:27] thafreak: yes that's correct. cobbler has been included in the current development release of Ubuntu (Natty) that is due in a month [15:28] Cool... [15:28] speaking of natty, anything amazingly new on the virtualization front? [15:30] Daviey: Is there another kernel I can swap in? [15:30] Daviey: maybe -server, or -generic? [15:30] Daviey: Will this "just work" with latest EBS images? [15:30] thafreak: hallyn is your guy for those sorts of questions [15:30] I'm setting up a new vm host...debating on going bleeding edge or staying back with lucid [15:30] so anyone? [15:30] * lool tries linux-image-server [15:30] thafreak: lucid for vm hosts, even debian or centos ;) [15:30] cool...thanks RoAkSoAx [15:31] anyways [15:31] noone has a clue about my web conference question? [15:31] Daviey: howdy!! What do you think about separating the euca_admin tools into a different package? [15:31] yeah...I'm using lucid at work for our vmhosts and I like it, but at home...I'm feeling a little dangerous [15:31] thafreak: then go for xen in natty ;) I bet you wouldn't want to be dangerous in the rest of your life ;0 [15:32] blackxored: what do you mean by web conference excatly...like phone conference room via a web browser? [15:33] I already use xen on lenny/squeeze at other places...I really like that as well...I was looking for more like the new SPICE stuff...something new [15:33] thafreak: for a little background, I told before I had an asterisk setup and softphones, and management broke the thing up, now they want something on a conference nature setup fast, so I was wondering which path to follow [15:33] like conference calls via voip phones/conference room phones? [15:34] thafreak: I'm building a lucid image for xen4 using xen-tools, but no clue on what to put on it yet [15:34] I think asterisk is still technically king...and there are packages for ubuntu in the repos, but I've been meaning to try out freeswitch for a long time [15:34] thafreak: assume so, the priorities are only "fast setup, multi-user conference support" [15:34] Help !! how to install ubuntu server on XEN CITRIX? [15:35] Hmm the vm doesn't come up anymore :-( [15:35] thafreak: had a bad time with asterisk from the repos, can't recall if it was ubuntu or debian, but defintely had nightmares about it [15:35] well, I remember that freeswitch is technically superior...it was designed by former asterisk devs [15:35] and it comes with conference room by default in the sample config...and it can do HD audio conference calls [15:35] remember the priorities? what do you think? fast setup, multi-user conference [15:36] Well, fast setup will depend on you really...for me, I'd probably end up going with asterisk, cause I know the syntax of the configs much better [15:36]