[00:32] <MichelleQ> what time is our meeting?
[00:33] <mhall119> 8pm
[00:34] <mhall119> but I'll be postponed for a few minutes, so it'll probably be closer to 8:15
[00:38] <Chloric> govatent wont be joing us today
[00:51] <mhall119> Chloric: are you from south-florida too?
[00:52] <Chloric> yup, Miami
[00:52] <mhall119> cool
[00:52] <mhall119> we need some miami events
[00:54] <RoAkSoAx> vim e/win 11
[00:54] <RoAkSoAx> arrrrrgh
[00:54] <RoAkSoAx> mhall119: 
[00:54] <RoAkSoAx> around?
[00:54] <mhall119> heh
[00:54] <mhall119> RoAkSoAx: yup
[00:54] <Chloric> Events for what specifically? i just saw the Ubuntu Global Jam this april
[00:55] <mhall119> Chloric: and we'll have the Natty release to celebrate end of April
[00:55] <mhall119> both topics will come up in tonight's meeting
[00:55] <RoAkSoAx> mhall119: quick python question. there's a module that imports like this: from euca_admin import local ->> what does that local thingy mean cause it shows: ImportError: cannot import name local
[00:55] <RoAkSoAx> mhall119: the code: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/577665/
[00:56] <Chloric> oh man! I'm actually not going to be here when it's released! I'm going to be with the Model United Nations International Conference at the UN Headquarters this april 17-29
[00:56] <mhall119> RoAkSoAx: it's going to take euca_admin.local and put "local" into the current namespace
[00:56] <mhall119> RoAkSoAx: the error means that python can't find anything called "local" in the "euca_admin" namespace
[00:57] <RoAkSoAx> mhall119: right but there's something like local.get_credentials (http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/577665/)
[00:57] <RoAkSoAx> so the code is all wrong then?
[00:58] <mhall119> RoAkSoAx: either the code is wrong, you don't have the euca_admin package installed, or euca_admin isn't in your PYTHONPATH
[00:59] <mhall119> try starting a new python shell, and run "import euca_admin" then "dir(euca_admin)"
[01:01] <RoAkSoAx> mhall119: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/577666/
[01:02] <mhall119> so...doesn't look like euca_admin has anything called "local"
[01:02] <RoAkSoAx> mhall119: yeah there's no file nor module that contains anything named local
[01:03] <mhall119> is there a variable or function or class by that name in euca_admin/__init__.py
[01:03] <RoAkSoAx> mhall119: yes
[01:03] <mhall119> try import euca_admin, then from euca_admin import local
[01:04] <RoAkSoAx> mhall119: same issue
[01:05] <RoAkSoAx> mhall119: i'm guessing they are missing either a file in the source
[01:05] <mhall119> RoAkSoAx: can we take this to PM or pick it back up after the meeting?
[01:06] <RoAkSoAx> mhall119: which ever works better for you :)
[01:06] <mhall119> either one
[01:06] <mhall119> how about after the meeting?
[01:08] <mhall119> chaynie, Chloric, cjohnston, crashsystems, dantalizing, itnet7, jcastro, jtatum, mianosm, munz, rmcbride, RoAkSoAx, ShawnR, statik: Meeting time!
[01:09] <RoAkSoAx> o/
[01:09] <rmcbride> o/
[01:09] <mhall119> #startmeeting
[01:09] <Mootbot-UK> Meeting started at 01:09. The chair is mhall119.
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[01:10] <MichelleQ> mhall119's parents just stopped by... he'll be back in just a second.
[01:15] <mhall119> okay, everyone ready?
[01:15] <mhall119> not much to cover tonight
[01:15] <rmcbride> ready here
[01:15] <mhall119> [TOPIC] Global Jam
[01:15] <Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  Global Jam 
[01:15] <Chloric> ready
[01:16] <mhall119> April 1-3 is the next Ubuntu Global Jam
[01:16] <mhall119> Global Jam is just a weekend where community around the world get together with people around them to contribute to Ubuntu
[01:17] <mhall119> you can write code, triage bugs, write documentation, or just test the current state of Ubuntu 11.04
[01:17] <mhall119> anybody can host an event, and it only takes 2 people to get together to make it a jam
[01:18] <mhall119> for example, cjohnston and I are meeting up here in Lakeland to hack on Summit code
[01:18] <mhall119> so find someone near you, pick a place to meetup (coffee shops are good), and decide on something to do
[01:19] <mhall119> if you're going to have an event, add it to http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/567/detail/
[01:19] <mhall119> anybody who is a member of the Florida team can add an event for our team
[01:20] <mhall119> [TOPIC] Summit Jam
[01:20] <Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  Summit Jam 
[01:20] <Chloric> Whats the difference between the Summit Jam and Global Jam?
[01:20] <mhall119> as I mentioned, cjohnston and I are going to be hacking on Summit
[01:21] <mhall119> Summit Jam is just what we're doing as part of Global Jam
[01:21] <mhall119> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/729/detail/
[01:21] <Mootbot-UK> LINK received:  http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/729/detail/ 
[01:21] <Chloric> oh ok
[01:21] <mhall119> summit is the code that runs summit.ubuntu.com, which provides the session management and calendar listings for UDS
[01:22] <mhall119> we're going to be meeting in person, but we'll also be working with others on IRC, so if anybody wants to participate with us and learn some python, django, and how to work on summit, feel free to register
[01:23] <mhall119> [TOPIC] Natty Release Parties
[01:23] <Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  Natty Release Parties 
[01:23] <mhall119> most of you know about release parties already
[01:24] <mhall119> April 28th is the scheduled release date for Natty
[01:24] <mhall119> so start thinking of where you can celebrate
[01:24] <Chloric> Oh man =/
[01:24] <mhall119> unlike global jams, release parties don't involve work!
[01:24] <mhall119> you don't need internet access (though we are geeks)
[01:24] <mhall119> just somewhere to hang out with friends and have a good time
[01:25] <mhall119> just like global jam, you can register your release party events here: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/744/detail/
[01:26] <mhall119> let's make sure we've have Florida marked on those maps!
[01:26] <mhall119> that's all I've got for this meeting, anybody have any questions?
[01:27] <mianosm> Nope.
[01:27] <mhall119> if you want to ask about how to run a global jam, feel free to ask us in here or in #ubuntu-locoteams
[01:28] <mhall119> alrighty, we're done
[01:28] <mhall119> #endmeeting
[01:28] <Mootbot-UK> Meeting finished at 01:28.
[01:29] <Chloric> so how's everyone?
[01:39] <MichelleQ> missed it all again.  :-/
[03:47] <crashsystems> anyone say my name in here about four hours ago?
[12:41] <dantalizing> morning!
[12:41] <dantalizing> sry i missed the meeting last night mhall119 
[12:53] <mhall119> dantalizing: no worries, just talked about global jam and release parties
[12:54] <dantalizing> mhall119: yeah registered for the summit jam ... been sketching out ideas for a mobile ui
[12:54] <dantalizing> but not familiar with anything you guys are doing 
[12:54] <dantalizing> are yall making it mobile-accessible?
[12:55] <dantalizing> ie.. am i reinventing the wheel yet?
[12:56] <mhall119> dantalizing: there is talk of tying it in with a 3rd party, closed source mobile app
[12:57] <mhall119> http://conventionist.com/
[12:58] <dantalizing> nice
[12:58] <dantalizing> and fail
[12:59] <mhall119> the biggest problem with them right now is that updating the schedule for their app involves emailing a CSV file to a person on their end, who uploads it into their system
[13:02] <dantalizing> nice
[14:44] <dantalizing> geez ... when is windows going to become linux ... tired of crappy apps
[15:23] <mhall119> I'm still waiting on them to have a capable window manager
[15:23] <dantalizing> metacity is mostly there
[15:23] <dantalizing> yay 1998!
[15:24] <dantalizing> the scrollbar overlays available in natty are cool
[15:24] <dantalizing> very sexy
[15:25] <mhall119> yeah they are
[15:25] <mhall119> it's very google-like
[15:26] <mhall119> I bet the chrome developers are upset they didn't think of it first
[15:26] <dantalizing> yeah i wish they worked with chrome
[15:26] <dantalizing> that was actually the first app i tried :(
[15:27]  * dantalizing shake his fist at chromium
[15:27] <dantalizing> but other than that disappointment, very nice
[15:27] <mhall119> isn't there a chome plugin to use native scrollbars? I wonder if that would work
[15:28] <mhall119> or if it just tries to mimick native scrollbar looks
[15:57] <maxolasersquad> At http://oss.oracle.com/ the website for OSS Oracle software, it has Oracle SQL Developer listed, but there is no source code download, and the SQL Developer help says, "Copyright ©  2005,2009 Oracle.  All Rights Reserved."
[15:58] <dantalizing> and be sure not to complain about how slow it is because you're violating the license and oracle lawslime will come after you
[16:00] <maxolasersquad> It is, IMHO, the best IDE for interacting with an Oracle DB, which is very very sad.
[16:00] <maxolasersquad> It has all the pitfalls of a Java app though.
[16:00] <maxolasersquad> Slow and memory intensive.
[16:10] <maxolasersquad> I've decided to ask them, http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=2188441
[16:20] <maxolasersquad> One of my coworkers switched his laptop over to Ubuntu, unsolicited.
[16:23] <dantalizing> nice
[16:42] <jck77> morning everyone
[17:49] <dorgan> does anyone know of a package that will allow me to monitor an apache error log file for errors?
[17:52] <dantalizing> dorgan: top -d1 /var/log/apache2/error.log
[17:52] <dorgan> yeah i am looking for something alittle fancier than that
[17:52] <dorgan> :)
[17:52] <dantalizing> lies!
[17:52] <dantalizing> monit
[17:53] <dantalizing> http://mmonit.com/wiki/Monit/MonitorApacheStatus
[17:53] <dantalizing> dorgan: ^^
[17:54] <dorgan> think i found something:  http://www.librelogiciel.com/software/ScanErrLog/action_Presentation
[17:54] <dorgan> i already have something to monitor the status
[17:54] <dorgan> i need to monitor the error log
[17:59] <DammitJim> dantalizing, do you have BOA?
[17:59] <dantalizing> DammitJim: bank of america is the evil that eats at america's soul
[17:59] <dantalizing> yes
[17:59] <dantalizing> seriously ... no
[18:00] <DammitJim> yes, you do or yes you do not? LOL
[18:00] <dantalizing> no, i do not
[18:01] <dantalizing> i'm hoping that someday i'll look back wistfully at the day that "dickbar" was introduced into the english language
[18:05] <DammitJim> LOL
[18:05] <DammitJim> those people @ BOA have screwed up my mint
[18:05] <dantalizing> nice
[20:00] <ricenut> Hi guys, do you know how to start boot Ubuntus 10 CD in rescue mode? Any special key?
[20:27] <maxolasersquad> dantalizing: Repsonse to my thread indicates Oracle believes FOSS means "Freeware and Open Source Software"
[20:50] <dantalizing> lol
[20:52] <dantalizing> i <3 freedom, not free beer
[20:55] <munz> laura @ carey realty
[20:56] <munz> shoot, wrong window lol
[20:58] <mhall119> now we're all gonna email her too
[21:00] <jck77> i love my bandwidth 
[21:00] <jck77> http://www.speedtest.net/result/1193078624.png
[21:04] <maxolasersquad> jck77: Is that fiber of DOCSIS3?
[21:05] <maxolasersquad> s/of/or
[21:09] <mhall119> holy crap, thunderbird just blew up to 100% CPU and 2.4 GB RAM
[21:11] <jck77> maxolasersquad: Yes, fiber 
[21:11] <jck77> a 100/10 connection
[21:26] <maxolasersquad> mhall119: Thunderbird must be borrowing code from Evolution.
[22:20] <munz> mhall119, lol
[22:20] <munz> pls do
[23:30] <mhall119> maxolasersquad_h: something's going scewy, it's done it twice now
[23:43] <maxolasersquad_h> mhall119: It's done what twice?
[23:46] <maxolasersquad_h> Oh, thunderbird blowing up?
[23:52] <mhall119> yeah
[23:59] <maxolasersquad_h> I just replaced androIRC with Yaaic, and I'm loving it already.