[00:05] <brousch> icu
[00:05] <brousch> one of my friend's proxy servers got blocked earlier today
[00:05] <brousch> one his company was using
[00:06] <rick_h_x> well I'm connecting with xchat from home
[00:06] <rick_h_x> my irssi connection/colo can't connect
[00:06] <rick_h_x> it's like it's getting filtered
[00:06] <brousch> that's what happened to him
[00:07] <rick_h_x> crap
[00:09] <rick_h_> how about this
[00:09] <rick_h_> bah, colorscheme doesn't play nice with byobu at all
[00:11] <rick_h_> testing
[00:13] <rick_h_> there we go, that looks better
[00:28] <greg-g> welcome back
[00:28] <rick_h_> moved irssi to my EC2 instance :(
[00:42] <greg-g> lame
[01:25] <snap-l> Hello world
[01:26] <rick_h_> howdy
[01:26] <rick_h_> over?
[01:40] <jrwren> you keep and EC2 instance up all the time?
[01:40] <rick_h_> yea, have a pair of them
[01:41] <rick_h_> bmark.us, semiww.org, some other sites/etc
[01:42] <jrwren> that is $$$
[01:42] <jrwren> i take it you don't personally pay for 'em?
[01:42] <rick_h_> micro instance is about $15/mo
[01:42] <rick_h_> yea, personally pay for them
[01:46] <jrwren> wow, cool.
[01:46] <jrwren> i thought micro was about $30/mo... but that was probably old pricing.
[01:46] <rick_h_> no, that's the small instance
[01:46] <jrwren> plus free micro for a year, I guess I should be running some.
[01:46] <rick_h_> yea
[01:46] <jrwren> AMZ is always cutting prices on that, I think my pricing was old info
[01:46] <rick_h_> gotcha
[01:47] <rick_h_> anyway, yea handy to have around. Setup a second one for my jenkins instance and such for bmark
[01:47] <rick_h_> build.bmark.us
[01:47] <rick_h_> and working on some blog migrations/etc
[02:07] <jrwren> have you heard of htis free oprating system "lee knocks" ?
[02:08] <rick_h_> nope, must be something from communist countries
[03:34] <_stink_> yikes, github down!
[03:34] <_stink_> and right when i actually wanna look at stuff. :P
[03:52] <snap-l> Home.
[04:02] <greg-g> snap-l: how'd it go? splendidly I assume?
[04:07] <snap-l> Presentation went well, thanks
[04:07] <snap-l> Lots of good questions about podcasting
[04:09] <snap-l> Had only one snafu where I forgot the right music. ;)
[04:11] <greg-g> awesome!
[04:12] <greg-g> Sorry I couldn't make it :/
[04:17] <snap-l> np.
[04:17] <snap-l> It's the thought that counts. ;)
[04:17] <greg-g> well, then you've always got it from me :)
[04:18] <snap-l> Heading to bed. TTYL!
[04:18] <snap-l> heh
[12:48] <wolfger> http://shirt.woot.com/shirts/concerts-will-never-be-the-same
[13:04] <snap-l> heh
[13:34] <greg-g> :)
[13:34] <greg-g> g'morn
[13:39] <rick_h_> morning
[13:41] <rick_h_> snap-l: so it went well?
[13:42] <rick_h_> a whole new array of podcasts about to be born
[13:56] <snap-l> Heh
[13:56] <snap-l> Hope so
[13:56] <wolfger> what kind of array?
[13:57] <snap-l> krondor: You weren't at MUG?
[13:57] <snap-l> I had presents for you.
[13:58] <rick_h_> yea, krondor ping'd me, but it was when I was having my irc problems
[13:58] <rick_h_> ugh
[14:00] <krondor> Yeah sorry I was actually out the door toward mug when Em asked me to run some errands and it all derailed
[14:00] <krondor> How was the talk?
[14:00] <snap-l> Coming to CHC tonight?
[14:00] <snap-l> Talk went well
[14:00] <snap-l> Pretty good turnout as well, all things considered.
[14:01] <krondor> I'll try to make chc, I can guilt Em about mug too so that helps
[14:01] <snap-l> heh
[14:01] <rick_h_> hah
[14:01] <rick_h_> the good ole guilt trip
[14:02] <snap-l> Awesome. I'll bring the stuff then
[14:02] <snap-l> lmk if situations change.
[14:02] <snap-l> rick_h_: 8pm
[14:02] <snap-l> not 7pm
[14:03] <rick_h_> doh
[14:03] <rick_h_> redid
[14:03] <rick_h_> sorryt
[14:03] <rick_h_> trying to multi-task too much right now
[14:03] <snap-l> Proof that rick_h_ only copy and pastes!
[14:04] <snap-l> You must make penance, my son
[14:04] <snap-l> 1 day with Eclipse, no plugins.
[14:04] <snap-l> only then shall you redeem yourself.
[14:04] <rick_h_> psh
[14:04] <snap-l> and psh
[14:04] <snap-l> I'm sure there's a shell called psh out there. ;)
[14:05] <wolfger> perl shell, isn't it?
[14:06] <wolfger> http://www.focusresearch.com/gregor/sw/psh/
[14:06] <snap-l> Why yes, yes it is. :)
[14:06]  * snap-l feels an evil streak coming
[14:08]  * wolfger feel 'sudo apt-get install psh' in his near future
[14:11] <wolfger> snap-l: evil streak? You mean like altering somebody's environment to pipe STDOUT through cowsay?
[14:12] <rick_h_>  don't leave your laptop unattended at CHC tonight
[14:12] <rick_h_> might be a chsh in your future
[14:12] <wolfger> (actually, I'm plotting to pipe my STDERR through cowsay, which I think will be cool)
[14:27] <brousch> rick_h_: do you think a micro EC2 could run an instance of plone?
[14:29] <Blazeix> http://probablyinteractive.com/url-hunter
[14:29] <rick_h_> brousch: probably, I mean I'm running hudson on it
[14:33] <snap-l> Yay, fed Ex has made my package take a three day journey from Wisconsin
[14:33] <snap-l> Here's how that works
[14:34] <snap-l> Oh, even better, it'll probably take an additional day.
[14:37] <snap-l> http://ubuntuone.com/p/grk/
[14:37] <snap-l> Initially the delivery date was 5/9
[14:37] <snap-l> er, 3/9
[14:52] <snap-l> Sorry, it was 3-8 business days.
[14:53] <rick_h_> sql help with brain fart this morning
[14:54] <rick_h_> I want to SELECT id, score = 1 FROM table
[14:54] <rick_h_> where score isn't a col in the table
[14:54] <rick_h_> what's it called so I can google mysql and the dippy thing?
[14:55] <_stink_> 1 as score
[14:55] <_stink_> ?
[14:56] <brousch> yes
[14:56] <rick_h_> no, error there too
[14:56] <_stink_> blarg
[14:56] <rick_h_> ah, nvm
[14:56] <snap-l> Wouldn't that be SELECT id, 1 as score from table?
[14:56] <rick_h_> thats right
[14:56] <rick_h_> yea, thanks
[14:56] <_stink_> coolio
[14:56] <snap-l> np
[14:57] <snap-l> i remember hating SQL like crazy in college, now it's almost second nature
[14:58] <snap-l> Only things I have to look up are permissions
[15:00] <rick_h_> ah, got it, ugh
[15:01] <rick_h_> sometimes getting things into sqlalchemy can be fun
[15:19] <binbrain> on hold for the sec of state, there are "Yes, Michigan" ad is looping reminding me how awesome snow is
[15:20] <rick_h_> hah
[16:03] <jcastro> hey rick_h_
[16:03] <jcastro> I have a guest from work coming to CHC
[16:04] <jcastro> he's from canonical and is in town to do some tech support for a customer
[16:04] <rick_h_> jcastro: awesome, I won't be there though
[16:04] <rick_h_> packing for pycon
[16:04] <jcastro> boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[16:04] <rick_h_> but snap-l and company can take care of him
[16:05] <rick_h_> jcastro: yea, I know. priorities :)
[16:05] <jcastro> rick_h_: say hi to the crew there pls.
[16:05] <jcastro> I'm sure barry is going?
[16:05] <snap-l> Jesus, that damn opencore thread is going crazy.
[16:05] <rick_h_> will do, got voidspace to agree to an interview
[16:05] <rick_h_> and yea, barry is heading down. Will hopefully run into/meet up with him at some point
[16:05] <snap-l> jcastro: Who's coming to dinner?
[16:07] <rick_h_> damn, this missing CHC is starting to suck
[16:08] <snap-l> rick_h_: We'll help you pack? :)
[16:08] <rick_h_> hah
[16:09] <rick_h_> actually hopefully have it all done
[16:09] <rick_h_> if work will lighten up today ugh
[16:09] <jcastro> snap-l: his name is Mark
[16:09] <wolfger> Packing: put laptop in backpack with change of underwear. Done.
[16:11] <snap-l> wolfger: You're too kind
[16:12] <snap-l> jcastro: Last name: Shuttleworth? :)
[16:12] <rick_h_> pack 2 laptops, 4 mics, power, xlr cables, clothes, cards
[16:12] <jcastro> heh no
[16:30] <greg-g> snap-l++
[17:01] <jrwren> greg-g: we are good for Apr 3rd
[17:01] <greg-g> jrwren: rock!
[17:01] <greg-g> thanks buddy
[17:02] <snap-l> Awesome! Thanks jrwren
[17:02] <jrwren> i may even have to attend.
[17:03] <greg-g> jrwren: even better
[17:03] <jrwren> ocelot... awesome.
[17:03] <jrwren> oneric, i have to use a dictionary
[17:04] <jrwren> wow, just googled it to Mirriam Webster. That is a great adjective.
[17:05] <jrwren> that womans body is oneiric <-- for the filthy word of the day version
[17:05] <rick_h_> yea, actually used the 'pronouce' on there to say it to me
[17:07] <snap-l> Onerous. ;)
[17:08] <jrwren> i had to double check the phonetics to learn to say it.
[17:08] <snap-l> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/oneiric <- Other Psychology terms made me laugh
[17:08] <jrwren> oh-nie-rick is how I read it.
[17:08] <snap-l> anxiety, conscience, fetish, hypochondria, intelligence, libido, mania, narcissism, neurosis, pathological, personality, phobia, psychosis, schadenfreude, subliminal
[17:09] <snap-l> oneiromancy - Divination by means of dreams
[17:09] <wolfger> Onery Ocelot?
[17:10] <wolfger> to follow Naughty Narwhal?
[17:10] <brousch> Ornery Ocelot
[17:10] <brousch> follows Pissed-off Piglet
[17:11] <wolfger> brousch++ for correct spelling; brousch-- for incorrect grasp of which letter follows which in the alphabet
[17:11] <snap-l> Perturbed Phytocondrian.
[17:12] <brousch> i use the canadian alphabet
[17:12] <brousch> bunch of backwards dorks
[17:13] <wolfger> Canadian alphabet... every letter is follow by "A"....
[17:13] <wolfger> A, eh? B, eh? C, eh?
[17:13] <snap-l> Just sent out a link to the MUG list with the podcasting links that came up during the presentation
[17:14] <snap-l> Also, Audio Technica's website can die in a fire.
[17:28] <rick_h_> heh, why the fire/dying?
[17:40] <snap-l> They make you have to chose your global location
[17:44] <jcastro> hey rick_h_
[17:44] <jcastro> when you go to pycon
[17:44] <jcastro> find Evan Dandrea and say hi
[17:48] <rick_h_> k, will do
[17:48] <jcastro> rick_h_: he's the installer guy, I need to send a message
[17:49] <jcastro> "Go Wings!" or something of that sort
[17:49] <jcastro> then he will know I sent you
[17:49] <jcastro> mwahahaha
[17:49] <rick_h_> hah
[17:49] <rick_h_> note added
[17:57] <wolfger> Greg Grossmeier has joined identi.ca ?
[18:22] <snap-l> yay, book arrived
[18:22] <snap-l> wolfger: gre-g has been on identi.ca for a while now
[18:22] <snap-l> Hell, he got me on idenit.ca
[18:23] <snap-l> Yay, book arrived early
[18:23] <rick_h_> what book?
[18:23] <snap-l> (*cough*True20 Adventures in Role Playing(*cough*)
[18:23] <snap-l> Revised edition
[18:24] <snap-l> http://true20.com/
[18:25] <rick_h_> man, I'm going to look goofy heading to DTW in shorts
[18:25] <snap-l> greg-g's UID on identi.ca is 158, mine is 160
[18:27] <wolfger> snap-l: According to Linkdin, he just joined
[18:27] <snap-l> Linkedin is not the best gauge of this
[18:29] <greg-g> wolfger: heh, yeah, the group on linkedin
[18:36] <brousch> rick_h_: you leave today for pycon?
[18:36] <rick_h_> brousch: tomorrow
[18:36] <rick_h_> getting packed up today
[18:37] <brousch> good. there's still time for me to stuff you in a trunk and take your spot
[18:38] <rick_h_> brousch: hah!
[18:38] <rick_h_> not likely, I'm getting stoked
[18:38] <rick_h_> seeing the twitter feed flying today
[19:19] <rick_h_> snap-l: ping, was it pro python you were talking about that was a bit much?
[19:19] <rick_h_> a bit heavy
[19:21] <snap-l> It was Pro Python, yes
[19:21] <snap-l> Seemed to get a little dense in the third chapter
[19:21] <snap-l> But maybe it is because I am weak
[19:22] <rick_h_> debating between pro python v python algorightms
[19:22] <rick_h_> for some on the trip reading
[19:23] <snap-l> Cheaper than picking up the PDF version from Apress
[19:23] <rick_h_> ?
[19:23] <snap-l> Pro Python
[19:24] <snap-l> $27.99 Kindle vs $34.99 PDF on Apress
[19:24] <rick_h_> ah, gotcha
[19:24] <rick_h_> suprisingly little amz reviews on both
[19:38] <snap-l> God, I hate SOAP
[19:38] <rick_h_> lol
[19:43] <snap-l> Maybe it's more that I hate SoapUI
[19:45] <rick_h_> no, stick with your first instinct
[19:49] <binbrain> snap-l: SOAP is awful
[19:50] <snap-l> Yeah, no shit. :)
[19:51] <binbrain> I wish it'd hurry up and DIAF
[19:56] <snap-l> ++
[20:42] <brousch> making a logo for west MI linux users group. what do you think? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/101667/wmlug-3.2.png
[20:42] <snap-l> nice! ;)
[20:42] <greg-g> neat
[20:43] <rick_h_> yea, good stuff
[20:44] <brousch> if he farts it will hit detroit
[21:14] <binbrain> brousch: what's wrong with the old one?
[21:15] <binbrain> I was going to the west MI LUG back when we made the 1st logo
[21:15] <binbrain> 10 years ago I guess
[21:17] <brousch> it has no logo
[21:17] <brousch> http://wmlug.org/
[21:17] <brousch> you are probably thinking of the grand rapids linux users group, which does have a logo
[21:18] <binbrain> ahh, your right
[21:18] <binbrain> where does the WMUG meet?
[21:19] <brousch> new horizons learning center on the east side of town
[21:19] <brousch> it formed during a multi-year lull in grlug activity. now grlug is also active and we have double the linux group
[21:20] <binbrain> interesting
[21:24] <brousch> the grlug web site is even crappier than the wmlug one
[21:35] <jcastro> jrwren: http://techcrunch.com/2011/03/09/founder-stories-stack-exchange-spolsky-vc/
[21:45] <gamerchick02> Yay, a new Rick's Rant!
[22:10] <snap-l> Seriously, Facebook comments?
[22:10] <snap-l> I can't read comments on a site without allowing Facebook into my life?
[22:11] <AndIrc_> heh, yep
[22:11] <AndIrc_> it's coming
[22:12] <snap-l> Well, Techcrunch just entered my shitlist again
[22:17] <rick_h_droid> heh, party
[22:21] <rick_h_droid> lococast ep 14 out. get it while it's hot. sorry for the audio
[22:45] <snap-l> rick_h_: Wooooooooot
[22:45] <rick_h_droid> ??
[22:45] <snap-l> lococast release.
[22:55] <gamerchick02> techcrunch is crap. you can't read comments without having a fB account?
[22:56] <gamerchick02> dangit, ya'll i just listened to Rick's Rants...
[22:58] <Blazeix> I sort of think of it as a plus. If you have a facebook account, you're subjected to techcrunch's comments.
[22:58] <Blazeix> If you don't, you're spared.
[22:58] <gamerchick02> good point.
[23:04] <gamerchick02> hrm. my brother's fudge is actually pretty good. very sweet (moreso than regular fudge) but good...