[04:54] <Unit193> Can't help but ask: Why don't we have a ubot?
[05:07] <BiosElement> Probably because we've never needed it?
[05:07] <BiosElement> And wow, gnome fanboys probably don't wanna read this" http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2011/03/collaborations-demise.html
[05:08] <Unit193> *some of the LoCo teams have them
[05:09] <BiosElement> Seems like I was backing the right side after all, honestly.
[05:12] <BiosElement> So my takeaway from that is all the Canonical bashing with people claiming canon doesn't work with gnome is more the fault of gnome then canonical, since the kde folks get the same issues. >.>
[05:12]  * BiosElement looks forward to being told he's an idiot ;)
[05:12] <Unit193> BiosElement: You're an idiot! ;)
[05:13]  * BiosElement adds Unit193 to his list of people to never buy lunch for
[05:13] <BiosElement> ;)
[05:13] <BiosElement> See, I don't need to be mean. I'll just buy everyone 'else' lunch :P
[05:13]  * BiosElement is such a nice, caring dude
[05:14] <Unit193> ok ok ok, You're a very nice person! now can I have lunch too?
[05:14] <BiosElement> hahaha, yes :P
[05:14] <BiosElement> Though I probably should have dinner first, i'm hungry heh
[05:14]  * Unit193 doesn't use Gnome
[05:14] <BiosElement> THis article is great though
[05:14] <BiosElement> Reading the comments now
[05:15] <BiosElement> I'm a KDE fanboy, not a gnome hater. But I've also noticed this gnome wall
[05:15] <BiosElement> Everyone always uses gnome to bash canonical, but it makes me wonder if gnome shouldn't be getting more flack over this.
[05:17] <Unit193> I'm using XFCE and LXDE on different computers (I would/have/will use KDE on the main)
[05:19] <BiosElement> These comments are amazing
[05:19] <BiosElement> A gnome dude comes over
[05:19] <BiosElement> and goes "Aseigo is a nut who's making this up"
[05:20] <BiosElement> And at least 3 other gnome devs have come and said Aaron's totally right haha
[14:53] <thafreak> Morning Ohio
[14:55] <thafreak> Anyone a puppet or chef fanboy, and want to convince me which one to use?
[18:11] <djoe> people I respect like puppet over chef, but I'm not sure I have a dog in that fight
[18:11] <Cheri703> the chef IS a puppet: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Swedish_chef
[18:11] <djoe> I think the way it goes is that programmers and other sysadmins-by-accident like chef because they can goo it up with all their own stuff, but that puppet does things the Right Way
[18:12] <djoe> or, at least, more things, if not everything.
[18:31] <Unit193> [nolog] Just gotta try this...
[18:31] <kyanardag_> i would like to prepare a deb package for a scientific software to make it available for community, anybody can guide me for debian packaging system and how to create packages?
[18:48] <djoe> kyanardag_: what documentation have you been trying to use?
[18:52] <kyanardag_> i followed the community documentation for personal package archive (PPA) but it was over my head
[19:27] <djoe> kyanardag_: well, there's packaging the software, then there's distributing it
[19:28] <djoe> PPA is more a method of distribution.
[19:28] <djoe> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Debian-Binary-Package-Building-HOWTO/
[19:28] <djoe> http://wiki.debian.org/HowToPackageForDebian
[19:28] <djoe> kyanardag_: what is the software?
[19:28] <djoe> do you have a link to the upstream?
[19:29] <kyanardag_> this is the software: http://code.google.com/p/bedtools/
[19:29] <djoe> oh, awesome
[19:29] <djoe> I'd try to catch mbanck, for instance, on #debian to ask for help, were I you.
[19:29] <kyanardag_> there's rpm package available but debian package is missing, i wanted to contribute to scientific community by preparing a deb file
[19:30] <kyanardag_> ok.. i think i'll start with basics, only packaging for now.. distribution can be done later i guess..
[19:31] <djoe> http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-med/
[19:31] <djoe> http://debichem.alioth.debian.org/
[19:32] <djoe> consider, for instance, that things like the ncbi tools and BLAST and hmmer etc are already packaged
[19:32] <djoe> you might be interested to look at them as examples, and ask for help from their packagers, perhaps.
[19:32] <djoe> kyanardag_: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/hmmer for example
[19:33] <kyanardag_> that's a good idea..
[19:33] <kyanardag_> version 3 of hmmer was released.. it needs to be packaged as well :)
[19:34] <djoe> :-)
[19:34] <djoe> kyanardag_: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentorsFaq#Packaging
[19:35] <djoe> that might be a little heavy
[19:36] <kyanardag_> it's good reading.. nice tips.. orphaned packages.. request for package..