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| RAOF | Man this regex is getting evil. | 03:30 |
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| === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth | ||
| RAOF | It's alive… it's ALIVE! | 05:03 |
| RAOF | That's rather nice. 3 build failures, two of which were an insufficiently sentient regex. | 05:12 |
| tjaalton | sigh, chromium is not that usable (for my workflow), and firefox keeps "hanging" every 10s for 1s, what else is there.. opera? | 07:34 |
| RAOF | That firefox thing seems pretty awful. What's it doing? | 07:35 |
| RAOF | It's not doing something brain-dead like fsyncing the history database again? | 07:36 |
| tjaalton | beats me. the cpu-usage spikes every few seconds, and that's when scrolling etc is paused | 07:36 |
| tjaalton | even typing a comment on a bug.. | 07:37 |
| RAOF | :( | 07:37 |
| RAOF | Know of any useful ati cherry-picks offhand while I'm patching it to build against 1.10? | 07:37 |
| tjaalton | ah there's no 6.14-branch for bugfixes.. | 07:38 |
| tjaalton | there was something on debian-x@ iirc, unless it was that build-fix | 07:39 |
| RAOF | Probably the build-fix. | 07:39 |
| RAOF | The changelog entries post-6.14 don't link to any bugs not caused by commits post-6.14. I think I'll just fix the build then :) | 07:40 |
| tjaalton | yeah, can't seem to find it either | 07:41 |
| RAOF | Ooh. I should add Sarvatt's disable-pageflip-on-palm patch. | 07:50 |
| bryceh_ | yeah that firefox laggy behavior is really irritating. I'm using chromium now because of that. | 07:59 |
| tjaalton | I'm trying with some extensions disabled, but we'll see if it helps or not | 07:59 |
| tjaalton | what's most irritating with chromium is that typing '/' doesn't initiate search, and tabbing on the address bar doesn't select the next one on the list, need to use the cursor keys | 08:01 |
| tjaalton | and there's a limit of tabs per window, since you can't see the title | 08:02 |
| bryceh_ | yeah | 08:02 |
| tjaalton | there should be a 'firefox compatibility' -extension for it :) | 08:03 |
| bryceh_ | I do like that the location bar doubles as a search field, but I miss the reliable autocomplete | 08:03 |
| RAOF | The awesome bar is actually pretty awesome, yeah. | 08:03 |
| bryceh_ | best thing so far about chromium is I can right click on my bug graph svg's and choose "Open in a new window" | 08:04 |
| bryceh_ | the fact I can't do that in firefox has been a bit of a bummer | 08:04 |
| tjaalton | btw, since when does neither of them open the windows on the correct workspace? | 08:04 |
| tjaalton | probably a compiz bug, annoying | 08:05 |
| RAOF | Alright. Once the builds are done, ubuntu-x-swat/ppa should be nicely installable. | 08:06 |
| tjaalton | hum, I should prepare -fpit | 08:06 |
| bryceh_ | RAOF, :-) | 08:06 |
| RAOF | Let's go make some pasta! | 08:09 |
| Amaranth | yay mesa 7.10.1 | 08:11 |
| tjaalton | building xinput-calibrator_0.7.5-1 | 08:18 |
| Amaranth | dang, still can't do fullscreen youtube | 08:20 |
| Amaranth | will have to try intel-drm-next tomorrow | 08:20 |
| tjaalton | bryceh_, RAOF: objections for pushing xinput-calibrator to natty? it's not in debian yet for some reason (been on the mentors-queue for some time), sent an email to Tias about the status but haven't heard back yet | 08:23 |
| tjaalton | http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/xinput_calibrator | 08:23 |
| bryceh_ | tjaalton, no objections, in fact I think packaging it was down in my todo list somewhere | 08:24 |
| tjaalton | bryceh_: yeah I was about to do it too, then noticed that tias had done it himself | 08:25 |
| tjaalton | built without any warnings/errors | 08:25 |
| RAOF | No objections, but you'll need the obvious FFe. | 08:25 |
| tjaalton | yep | 08:25 |
| bryceh_ | tjaalton, IIRC when I played with it, it spit out stuff you paste into xorg.conf. I thought it could use a bit more integration so it actually would offer to store that info to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ or some such | 08:26 |
| bryceh_ | tjaalton, of course that was like >1 yr ago so maybe it's changed | 08:26 |
| tjaalton | bryceh_: yeah, would be nice to integrate that with the installer | 08:26 |
| tjaalton | for now it'd just be a replacement for the calibrator in evtouch | 08:27 |
| * bryceh_ nods | 08:27 | |
| lag | bug 731810 | 08:42 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 731810 in linux (Ubuntu) "X is broken post upgrade to Natty (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/731810 | 08:42 |
| lag | mvo: tjaalton: Take a look at the currentDmesg.txt | 08:43 |
| tjaalton | lag: attach Xorg.0.log too | 08:45 |
| lag | tjaalton: It just says out of memory | 08:46 |
| tjaalton | did you get your upgrade issues sorted? | 08:47 |
| lag | tjaalton: Uploaded | 08:48 |
| lag | tjaalton: This is my upgrade issue | 08:48 |
| tjaalton | yesterday you said that sources.list was still on maverick, and nvidia wouldn't install due to that | 08:49 |
| tjaalton | anyway, try putting 'nopat' to the kernel cmdline | 08:49 |
| tjaalton | as a kernel boot option | 08:50 |
| lag | tjaalton: I saw that on a previous bug report | 08:50 |
| lag | tjaalton: I have just installed the latest nVidia driver from their website | 08:51 |
| tjaalton | uh | 08:51 |
| tjaalton | no | 08:51 |
| tjaalton | it won't work | 08:51 |
| lag | :( | 08:51 |
| lag | Why not? | 08:51 |
| tjaalton | unless it's the beta driver | 08:52 |
| tjaalton | this is a kernel bug | 08:52 |
| tjaalton | does 'nopat' help? | 08:52 |
| lag | Don't know yet | 08:53 |
| tjaalton | does the nouveau driver work? | 08:53 |
| tjaalton | if you purge nvidia | 08:53 |
| lag | tjaalton: Trying nopat now | 08:54 |
| lag | tjaalton: I think I'm going to have to uninstall nVidia's driver | 08:59 |
| tjaalton | please :) | 08:59 |
| lag | Okay, that's now uninstalled - trying nopat | 09:04 |
| tjaalton | nopat with nvidia didn't work? | 09:05 |
| lag | Not with nVidia's driver | 09:05 |
| lag | Trying it with nvidia-current | 09:06 |
| lag | Just a purple screen | 09:09 |
| tjaalton | try without nvidia | 09:10 |
| lag | Now some flashing (after 5muns) | 09:10 |
| tjaalton | so it'd load nouveau | 09:10 |
| lag | nvidia-cirrent is still installed | 09:10 |
| tjaalton | purge it | 09:10 |
| lag | [ 43.639] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0) | 09:17 |
| tjaalton | remove xorg.conf | 09:17 |
| lag | Ooooooooo | 09:21 |
| lag | We have a login prompt | 09:21 |
| lag | We have desktop | 09:22 |
| tjaalton | ok so it's a bug in nvidia after all.. | 09:22 |
| lag | So what aren't I going to get? | 09:22 |
| lag | Compiz? | 09:22 |
| tjaalton | right | 09:22 |
| tjaalton | there's libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental, but it's pretty much unsupported | 09:23 |
| lag | And I don't get a choice as to which desktop I want | 09:24 |
| lag | And everything looks just a little bit crap | 09:24 |
| lag | Do you think I should try to install nvidia-current again? | 09:24 |
| tjaalton | unity2d should work | 09:24 |
| lag | I don't get a choice | 09:25 |
| lag | No selection items at the bottom | 09:25 |
| lag | I'm going to try and install nvidia-current again | 09:27 |
| lag | No joy | 09:39 |
| lag | That sucks ass | 09:39 |
| lag | Who picks up nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) bugs? | 09:40 |
| tjaalton | tseliot | 09:40 |
| tseliot | what's up? | 09:40 |
| lag | tseliot: bug 731810 | 09:40 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 731810 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) ""conflicting memory types" -> "Failed to allocate primary buffer: out of memory" (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/731810 | 09:40 |
| tjaalton | tseliot: nouveau works, nvidia fails :) | 09:41 |
| lag | s/:)/:( | 09:41 |
| tseliot | lag: can you try to disable grub's bootsplash? | 09:41 |
| lag | tseliot: I took out splash from the cmdline | 09:42 |
| lag | No difference | 09:42 |
| tseliot | lag: that would be plymouth's splash | 09:42 |
| tseliot | it's not the same thing | 09:42 |
| lag | tseliot: Okay, how do I take out Grub's? | 09:42 |
| tseliot | lag: can you attach your grub.cfg, please? | 09:44 |
| lag | tseliot: Done | 09:46 |
| tseliot | lag: since this is just a temporary thing, please try editing that file as in this patch: | 09:51 |
| tseliot | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/577746/ | 09:51 |
| tseliot | then do *not* update grub but just reboot | 09:51 |
| tseliot | if this works I think I can fix it in the nvidia package | 09:52 |
| lag | tseliot: Do I have to install nvidia again then? | 09:59 |
| tseliot | lag: no, if it's already installed there's nothing else you should do but reboot | 09:59 |
| lag | It's not | 09:59 |
| lag | I had to uninstall it to get a desktop up | 09:59 |
| tseliot | lag: ok, reinstall it then | 10:01 |
| lag | tseliot: Doing that now | 10:02 |
| tseliot | good | 10:02 |
| lag | tseliot: How do I change back settings - will they rectify after one reboot or will I have to revert the patch? | 10:02 |
| tseliot | lag: if you do update-grub your changes will go away | 10:03 |
| lag | tseliot: Nope | 10:10 |
| lag | tseliot: I received a loging | 10:11 |
| lag | login* | 10:11 |
| lag | tseliot: After logging in, the first window opened (Xchat) then crashed | 10:11 |
| lag | tseliot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577753/ | 10:11 |
| tseliot | lag: can I see your dmesg, please? | 10:26 |
| lag | tseliot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577762/ | 10:31 |
| tseliot | lag: the framebuffer is still there. Can I see your grub.cfg? | 10:36 |
| lag | tseliot: Which one? The edited, or non-edited? | 10:39 |
| tseliot | lag: the one that you used when booting | 10:39 |
| lag | tseliot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577768/ | 10:40 |
| tseliot | hmm... let me see how I did it in my natty machine | 10:42 |
| tjaalton | x loaded fine this time did it not? | 10:42 |
| lag | tjaalton: Well, I don't think fine is the word I'd use | 10:48 |
| lag | The whole thing locked up on login | 10:48 |
| tjaalton | lag: but x loaded up | 10:51 |
| lag | tjaalton: Something did | 10:51 |
| lag | I saw the outline of the first app that was visible (XChat) | 10:51 |
| lag | Then nothing ... | 10:51 |
| tjaalton | so you autoload apps on your session? | 10:52 |
| tseliot | lag: I lost the changes to my grub.cfg file but I guess we can edit the file a little better | 10:52 |
| lag | tjaalton: I do | 10:52 |
| lag | tjaalton: If I had to load them all by hand every day, I'd shoot myself! | 10:52 |
| tjaalton | lag: so the system locks up completely, or does for instance the mouse cursor move? | 10:53 |
| lag | Mouse moves and even changes to the resize cursor when over the edges of the window | 10:53 |
| lag | But I can't actually resize | 10:53 |
| tjaalton | so the session is broken, not the driver | 10:54 |
| lag | Everything's working in the background, I can SSH in | 10:54 |
| tjaalton | that's natty for you | 10:54 |
| tjaalton | try with a classic desktop | 10:54 |
| lag | That is with the Classic Desktop | 10:54 |
| tjaalton | unity is broken here as well | 10:54 |
| tjaalton | then with a clean session | 10:54 |
| lag | How do you mean? | 10:55 |
| tjaalton | failsafe gnome session | 10:55 |
| tjaalton | for instance | 10:55 |
| tjaalton | dunno where the session stuff is stored | 10:56 |
| tjaalton | ah, seems to be .config/gnome-session | 10:56 |
| tjaalton | nope | 10:57 |
| lag | tjaalton: I'll have to do it in a minute, as I have a meeting now | 10:57 |
| tjaalton | .config/autostart maybe | 10:57 |
| tseliot | lag: please try this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/577777/ | 10:57 |
| tjaalton | tseliot: X is up | 10:57 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: yes, it is but vesafb can cause a number of problems with some nvidia and amd cards, not only prevent X from starting | 10:59 |
| tseliot | and vesafb is still in his dmesg | 10:59 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: if it's a bug in Unity i.e. it can't be reproduced using the classic desktop, then it's a different issue | 11:00 |
| lag | Hi honey, I'm home | 12:24 |
| lag | tseliot: | 12:24 |
| lag | [ 44.690] (EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0) | 12:24 |
| lag | [ 44.690] (II) LoadModule: "vesa" | 12:24 |
| tseliot | lag: that's not a problem | 12:24 |
| tseliot | it's just the autoloading stuff | 12:24 |
| lag | Okay | 12:24 |
| tseliot | lag: you have to make sure that dmesg | grep vesa doesn't return anything | 12:25 |
| tseliot | lag: the last diff that I gave you should help | 12:25 |
| tseliot | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/577777/ | 12:25 |
| lag | set gfxpayload=text | 12:25 |
| lag | I did that | 12:25 |
| tseliot | lag: and remove the line that loads the modules | 12:26 |
| tseliot | i.e. if [ "$linux_gfx_mode" != "text" ]; then load_video; fi | 12:26 |
| lag | tseliot: Yep, it's gone | 12:26 |
| tseliot | lag: so, what's the output of "dmesg | grep vesa"? | 12:27 |
| lag | tseliot: Rebooting now - the dmesg was full of crap | 12:27 |
| tseliot | ok | 12:28 |
| lag | tseliot: No Vesa stuff | 12:28 |
| tseliot | lag: good. Now see if you can reproduce the problem | 12:28 |
| tseliot | if you still can, then it's a different issue | 12:28 |
| lag | Yep, still there | 12:29 |
| tjaalton | how do you know you're starting the classic desktop? | 12:29 |
| lag | What log will be most useful now? | 12:29 |
| tjaalton | unless you've chosen it from the gdm menu | 12:29 |
| lag | I did choose it from the menu, the same thing happened | 12:29 |
| tjaalton | then move your .config/autostart away | 12:29 |
| tjaalton | further advice probably from #ubuntu-desktop | 12:30 |
| tseliot | this command should tell you whether you're running unity "grep -i unity ~/.xsession-errors" | 12:31 |
| tseliot | instead of the classic desktop | 12:31 |
| lag | Okay, rebooting | 12:31 |
| tjaalton | classic still shows unity-window-decorator there | 12:32 |
| lag | In fact, with the driver installed I don't get a choice | 12:33 |
| lag | No option at the bottom of the login prompt | 12:33 |
| tseliot | ouch | 12:33 |
| tjaalton | do you still have maverick on sources.list? | 12:34 |
| lag | Starting unity-window-decorator | 12:37 |
| lag | That's the only thing it says | 12:37 |
| tjaalton | create a new user and try with that | 12:38 |
| lag | tjaalton: Lookup | 12:55 |
| lag | tjaalton: Lockup* | 12:55 |
| tjaalton | then it's something for #ubuntu-desktop | 12:56 |
| lag | tjaalton: Nice demonstration of your Teflon shoulders there :D | 12:59 |
| tjaalton | lag: well debugging this started over 4h ago | 13:03 |
| tjaalton | and debugging user sessions is not my expertise | 13:04 |
| apw | does anyone know if vesafb does content handoff to the X server; like the drm drivers do? | 13:39 |
| jcristau | doubt it. | 13:45 |
| cnd | tjaalton, heard of any trackpad issues lately? | 13:53 |
| cnd | a bunch of fixes were pushed to xorg-server yesterday and Kaleo is reporting issues with his trackpad | 13:53 |
| cnd | I'm wondering if anyone else is having issues | 13:54 |
| tjaalton | cnd: haven't seen any new bugs related to that | 13:55 |
| cnd | tjaalton, ok, thanks! | 13:55 |
| Sarvatt | lag: try booting with nopat added to grub | 14:01 |
| lag | Sarvatt: I did | 14:01 |
| tjaalton | suggested already :) | 14:01 |
| Sarvatt | oh, missed that | 14:01 |
| lag | Sarvatt: I also found that on an old bug report :) | 14:01 |
| Amaranth | btw, I found the cause of my excessive i915 wakeups | 14:11 |
| Amaranth | Apparently both evolution and thunderbird are drawing a _lot_, I'm guessing it's the constant progress spinners | 14:12 |
| codemagician | bjsnider, hi. I have a new xorg.log from todays crash. did you add more debug to it? | 15:50 |
| codemagician | bjsnider, http://pastebin.com/jjHCe0FR | 15:50 |
| codemagician | This was X hanging on bootup before any applications started up. My hardware is Asus EN210 (GeForce 210) Nvidia card with 10.10 ubuntu desktop. If anyone can help diagnose why X keeps hanging and reaching 100% cpu, would be most appreciated... | 15:53 |
| bjsnider | there's a generic error message printed on line 327 | 15:54 |
| bjsnider | codemagician, http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=46678 | 15:55 |
| bjsnider | do that thing | 15:55 |
| codemagician | okay | 15:55 |
| codemagician | bjsnider, I guess I should read the link on part 1 for stability? | 15:59 |
| bjsnider | couldn't hurt | 15:59 |
| bjsnider | codemagician, you know you can use the nouveau driver instead of nvidia right? | 16:00 |
| codemagician | may I ask.. why does the log show different version of the kernel to my uname output? | 16:00 |
| codemagician | bjsnider, i didn't know that. | 16:00 |
| bjsnider | if you remove nvidia-current and delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then reboot you'll get nouveau | 16:01 |
| codemagician | how to I remove the nvidia-current with sudo apt-get remove ? | 16:02 |
| bjsnider | right | 16:02 |
| codemagician | is nouveau another alternative driver? | 16:03 |
| codemagician | i mean... why are there two | 16:03 |
| bjsnider | you must be very new to linux if you're asking why there are two | 16:04 |
| codemagician | bjsnider, yes, I recently switched from imac | 16:05 |
| codemagician | i guess its open source | 16:05 |
| codemagician | and nvidia are proprietary? | 16:05 |
| bjsnider | nvidia is a proprietary driver produced by nvidia. its license is incompatible with the gpl. nouveau is an open gpl driver already in the kernel produced by many developers | 16:05 |
| codemagician | aha, I see | 16:06 |
| bjsnider | but mostly ben skeggs of red hat (i think that's his name) | 16:06 |
| codemagician | do I need to remove nvidia-current-modaliases nvidia-settings ? | 16:06 |
| bjsnider | no | 16:07 |
| codemagician | so now I just delete the xorg.conf and reboot? | 16:07 |
| bjsnider | codemagician, why didn't you want to use the excellent mac osx? | 16:07 |
| codemagician | bjsnider, I like to get my hands dirty | 16:07 |
| bjsnider | it's such fun to use and so delightfully expensive | 16:07 |
| codemagician | bjsnider, linux seems more fun to learn | 16:08 |
| bjsnider | is this situation you're in now fun? | 16:08 |
| codemagician | bjsnider, actually the most annoying thing about the iMac was the mouse acceleration | 16:08 |
| codemagician | bjsnider, ha ha. good point. well its new install, so I should give it a chance | 16:09 |
| bjsnider | you're installing ubuntu on an imac? | 16:09 |
| codemagician | bjsnider, rome wasn't built in a day | 16:09 |
| codemagician | bjsnider, i gave the mac to my sister and built a new machine | 16:09 |
| bjsnider | you built this computer from scratch? | 16:09 |
| codemagician | bjsnider, yeah, built from parts | 16:09 |
| codemagician | bjsnider, i7 core, P6 asus Mobo, X-25 SSD | 16:10 |
| codemagician | bjsnider, I went for the graphics card because its got a big heatsink with no fan | 16:10 |
| codemagician | bjsnider, i like the silence | 16:10 |
| bjsnider | that should work fine | 16:10 |
| bjsnider | you nough all-intel, which is the right move | 16:11 |
| bjsnider | bought, i mean | 16:11 |
| codemagician | i checked on linux compatible websites first | 16:11 |
| codemagician | i was tempted to go for the i5 with built in GPU | 16:11 |
| codemagician | but I thought having nvidia was going to give me more flexibility in future | 16:11 |
| bjsnider | and you're using maverick? | 16:12 |
| codemagician | i've always had nvidia graphics cards and they've always been great | 16:12 |
| codemagician | yes, maverick | 16:12 |
| bjsnider | how did you install ubuntu? where did you get it? | 16:13 |
| codemagician | would it have been better to go for LTS version | 16:13 |
| codemagician | I downloaded from ubuntu directly and made a USB pen | 16:13 |
| codemagician | using the windows USB installer app | 16:13 |
| bjsnider | are you dual-booting or something? | 16:14 |
| codemagician | no, i used a separate laptop | 16:15 |
| codemagician | i have a windows laptop so I can test websites with IE | 16:16 |
| codemagician | I'll try a reboot now | 16:16 |
| codemagician | hopefully i'll be back in a moment | 16:16 |
| bjsnider | i would have used the amd64 desktop install cd | 16:16 |
| codemagician | i have intel processor | 16:17 |
| codemagician | i read online that 32bit version would give more choice of packages | 16:18 |
| codemagician | i'll reboot. back in a moment! | 16:18 |
| codemagician | I'm on Nouvea now | 16:20 |
| bjsnider | codemagician, amd64 covers all 64-bit processors except the itanium | 16:20 |
| codemagician | I assumed amd meant AMD processors only | 16:20 |
| bjsnider | intel uses amd's code that allows 32-bit code to run on a 64-bit processor | 16:22 |
| codemagician | aha, i see | 16:23 |
| codemagician | i followed the sheep | 16:23 |
| codemagician | performance isn't really an issue | 16:23 |
| codemagician | just stability | 16:23 |
| bjsnider | i386 gets you an easier time with flash, maybe some 3d games if that's your thing. otherwise amd64 is faster | 16:24 |
| codemagician | the adobe flash player crashes my firefox every other youtube video | 16:26 |
| bjsnider | ooooook | 16:29 |
| apw | bryceh_, about? i've almost got a PPA to test for the vesafb triggered GPU hangs | 18:06 |
| Sarvatt | Amaranth: ^^ | 18:13 |
| Amaranth | cool | 18:14 |
| Amaranth | is there a ppa for intel-drm-next? | 18:14 |
| Sarvatt | just http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-intel-next/ | 18:14 |
| apw | bryceh_, well once the kernels finish building my ppa:apw/purple is worth a test | 18:17 |
| Amaranth | whoops, if you install an image without installing the headers first you get lots of dkms failure fun :) | 18:19 |
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| bryceh_ | apw, awesome | 18:35 |
| bryceh_ | apw, ok, I'll keep an eye on the build and go beat the bushes for testers once the .deb is ready. thanks! | 18:52 |
| Amaranth | ok so it seems drm-intel-next has some really weird failure | 18:58 |
| Amaranth | gdm starts and I even get a tooltip because the mouse is on something but the keyboard and mouse don't work and based on the way the power button and ctrl-alt-del work I think X isn't getting keyboard/mouse grabs | 18:59 |
| Sarvatt | hmm, quite a lot of things on https://launchpad.net/~sarvatt/+uploaded-packages show failures to build in the archive now because they were copied to a screwed up test build archive but they built in ubuntu fine, what the heck | 21:45 |
| RAOF | Amaranth: That sounds like X just hasn't loaded any input drivers. | 21:51 |
| Amaranth | RAOF: why would changing the kernel cause that? | 21:52 |
| RAOF | Dunno? | 21:52 |
| RAOF | Did you happen to change anything else at the same time? | 21:52 |
| RAOF | Can you flip the keyboard into raw mode and VT switch? | 21:53 |
| Sarvatt | if you move the mouse, switch to a vt and come back is the mouse in a different spot? | 21:53 |
| RAOF | Of course, you can only switch to a VT if (a) X has loaded a keyboard driver or (b) you've raw-mode'd the keyboard :) | 21:53 |
| Sarvatt | chvt over ssh | 21:57 |
| RAOF | Well, that too. | 21:57 |
| Sarvatt | looks like page flipping might be a problem on agp radeons too, need to keep an eye out on ati freeze reports and have them try disabling it | 22:35 |
| Sarvatt | darn, vish isn't here | 22:36 |
| Sarvatt | I remember him saying his rv515 was freezing on .38 | 22:36 |
| Sarvatt | may end up having to make that disable pageflip on palm patch disable unconditionally by default | 22:39 |
| RAOF | Sarvatt: Do we have any metrics on that? Obviously my radeon hardware is perfectly happy with pageflip.\ | 22:54 |
| Sarvatt | nope, just something to keep an eye on for now | 22:55 |
| Sarvatt | ati bugs must be going to other packages, hardly anything in natty | 22:56 |
| Sarvatt | compiz/unity soaking up all our bugs? :P | 22:56 |
| RAOF | >:) | 22:57 |
| Sarvatt | here's one potentially https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/725580 | 23:02 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 725580 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) "black screen on boot on radeon 9200 (affects: 2) (heat: 347)" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 23:02 |
| Sarvatt | info->ChipFamily <= CHIP_FAMILY_RV350 would cover a big chunk of the AGP's | 23:15 |
| RAOF | Heh. | 23:16 |
| Sarvatt | err can just do all agp directly instead of chip families if it turns out to be the case, yeah i need to get off the pc for the night :P | 23:17 |
| Sarvatt | info->cardType == CARD_AGP | 23:21 |
| Sarvatt | hmm https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30052#c10 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/727620 seem to conflict | 23:31 |
| ubot4` | bugzilla.kernel.org bug 30052 in Video(DRI - non Intel) "Fails to start X with intel+Ati video, whith modeset=1" [Normal,New] | 23:31 |
| Sarvatt | ahh acer, bah :) | 23:31 |
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