[00:17] mhall119: yes [00:24] it's not using the new font yet? [00:30] no :-/ [03:21] does the loco directory Description field accept any kind of formatting? Or does it just display plain text? [03:21] Like, does it accept markdown/etc? [05:07] greg-g: just plain text [05:58] hey jono [06:01] hey nigelb [06:01] http://ubuntu-news.org/2011/03/10/wiki-ubuntu-com-upgrade-update/ wiki update \o/ [06:02] pleia2: I just read that on your blog :) [06:02] * nigelb does happy dance [06:02] :) [06:02] sorry for not posting about this sooner (the CC has been talking with Canonical about this since last month) [07:48] good morning [07:50] dholbach: morning [07:50] morning everyone [07:51] hey kim0 [07:55] good morning dholbach, kim0, and all! [07:56] dpm: morning man [07:56] hola dpm [07:57] hey :) [08:09] dholbach, have you got the id of that bug where you requested to support a sane translations layout for sphinx handy? [08:09] just a sec [08:09] https://bitbucket.org/birkenfeld/sphinx/issue/561/configuration-option-store-translations-in [08:09] cool, thanks :) [08:36] morning\o/ [08:42] nigelb: morning \o/ :) [08:47] kim0: Cloud days getting closer :) [08:47] Yeah they are :) [08:48] w00t [09:16] dpm, danke für das Followup auf dem Bug [09:16] dholbach, kein Problem :) [09:16] :) [09:42] Aloha [09:52] aloha [09:53] how are we all today ? [12:21] good morning [12:29] hey daker, good morning :) [12:30] Hola daker [12:30] hi [12:30] wohoo! dholbach also rocking fixing i18n bugs (bugs 692150) [12:30] Launchpad bug 692150 in gnome-desktop "Untranslated string in a gnome-desktop patch" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/692150 [12:31] dpm, it's my patch pilot day [12:31] you haven't checked in :P [12:31] \m/ [12:32] nigelb, I tried [12:32] topic was too long [12:32] ah, arg [12:44] * popey chuckles at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/654 [12:44] "We handle that very well, I think, though occasionally some muppet calls Kubuntu the blue-headed-stepchild etc etc." [12:47] lol [12:47] I should show this to Riddell tonight :p [12:47] i suspect he's seen it :) [12:48] naw, he's at the conf [12:49] and there's scratchy connectivity there [13:15] I see sabdfl is in a strident mood today [13:17] indeed [13:17] KDE/Kubuntu here we comeeeeeeee!! ;) [13:17] not a chance :) [13:18] I had to use KDE once already this week [13:18] hehe, yea, fixing KDE will be a lot harder than fighting with GNOME ;p [13:18] and I never want to have to do that again [13:18] ETOOMANYOPTIONS! [13:18] heh [13:19] thre was much yelling about how I couldnt find things [13:19] Kubuntu lacks the polish of Ubuntu, but it probably wouldn't take that long to fix [13:19] and also my buttons were in the wrong place [13:19] most flipping annoying [13:19] yeah, they would have to put the buttons on the left where they belong :) [13:20] exactly [13:20] I dont think its polish kde is lacking [13:20] focus [13:20] a desktop that isn't infuriatingly complex to use is what it lacks [13:21] aye [13:26] morning all [13:26] hello duanedesign [13:28] ?c [13:58] doctormo: ping [14:28] jcastro, [14:28] _ _ _ ____ ______ __ ____ ___ ____ _____ _ _ ____ _ __ ___ [14:28] | | | | / \ | _ \| _ \ \ / / | __ )_ _| _ \_ _| | | | _ \ / \\ \ / / | [14:28] | |_| | / _ \ | |_) | |_) \ V / | _ \| || |_) || | | |_| | | | |/ _ \\ V /| | [14:28] | _ |/ ___ \| __/| __/ | | | |_) | || _ < | | | _ | |_| / ___ \| | |_| [14:28] |_| |_/_/ \_\_| |_| |_| |____/___|_| \_\|_| |_| |_|____/_/ \_\_| (_) [14:28] [14:28] * dholbach hugs jcastro [14:41] hah [14:48] jcastro: Happy Birthday [14:48] is it your birthday? [14:48] yes 21 again [14:48] :p [14:50] thanks m4n1sh! [14:51] anyone in Jorge's city to hug him ? [14:53] yep [14:53] who? [14:54] whooo 16 teams are now signed up http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/567/detail/ [14:54] :D [14:54] 27 [14:55] AlanBell: eh ? [14:55] 51 people from 16 LoCos and 12 countries are participating in this event! [14:55] oh, sorry, I am full of fail [14:55] I was trying to do /27 to go to window 27 [14:55] ahhh [14:56] AlanBell: czajkowski Indian LoCo will participate too. Will be finalized in Monday's monthly LoCo meeting [14:57] m4n1sh: great stuff [14:57] :D [14:57] the LD map looks fantastic [14:57] the more the merrier [14:57] it does [14:57] :D [14:57] * czajkowski LOVES the LD :D [15:08] jcastro: Happy B-day man :) [15:08] thanks! [15:09] what are the list of yer twitter/identi.ca accounts [15:09] the Ubuntu dev ones? [15:09] cloud ? [15:10] and any video casts. are they all located someonewhere on one wiki page ? [15:12] czajkowski: is this what you want ? http://twitter.com/ubuntucloud http://identi.ca/ubuntucloud [15:12] yes thanks [15:12] who else has an account like that ? [15:12] http://facebook.com/ubuntucloud [15:13] and has a internet show ? be nice to just have them all on one wiki page [15:13] case I want to mail loco teams [15:13] czajkowski: I think same accounts s/cloud/dev/ [15:13] czajkowski: dpm has accounts too [15:13] nods [15:13] and dholbach [15:14] czajkowski, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Contact/ [15:16] dpm: thanks [15:17] the videocast URLs are on this channel's topic [15:18] czajkowski, thanks for the RT :) [15:18] np [15:18] I just want to put all of your info including any tv casts yer doing in one place and mail loco contacts [15:18] as I RT yer stuff using locoteams tag but also for folks not on twitter it'd be nice to reach to another audience [15:21] +1 [15:24] czajkowski: if u need the cloud vids also http://cloud.ubuntu.com/docs/videos/ [15:25] any wiki-admins here? [15:25] duanedesign, #canonical-sysadmin maybe? [15:25] if ound a page on the Ubuntu wiki full of spam attachments [15:26] ah yes, they can probably sort that out [15:26] thank you kind sir [15:26] just check in the topic who's "vanguard" [16:00] getting started now [16:34] hey all [16:36] * czajkowski hugs jono [16:37] * jono hugd czajkowski [16:37] I miss you czajkowski, we need to have a call sometime soon :-) [16:37] YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS [16:38] someone ask me why I am so happy [16:38] jono: I saw we missed outr call last night. I slept [16:38] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/727823 [16:38] j on nthe plus side more teams are signed up for UGJ [16:38] Launchpad bug 727823 in gnome-control-center "Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add "System Settings" link to the session indicator menu" [Medium,In progress] [16:38] I tweeet it once a day [16:38] jono: ^^ [16:38] finally, a control center! [16:38] users, rejoice! [16:39] * czajkowski hugs jcastro [16:39] Dear OFE please go away and leave me alone before I get cranky and you understand my range! [16:39] *RAGE [16:39] jcastro, you are way too happy.../me goes to find a tranquilizer dart for you... [16:40] akgraner: it's the simple things akgraner [16:40] you ever see Zombieland? [16:40] :-) [16:40] always enjoy the simple things [16:40] even if the world turns into a zombie nightmare. [16:40] I do that's why I am married to pgraner..:-P [16:40] akgraner: want a link to AW ? [16:40] czajkowski, yes please [16:40] * czajkowski is going for a lot of BEER tonight [16:40] another Redhatter has left and gone to Canonical:) [16:40] hey, it must be special if czajkowski's going for the beer! [16:41] czajkowski, yeah I have been banging the drum about the UGJ a little [16:41] jono: the ofe have a way of getting under my skin [16:41] jcastro: ^^ [16:41] czajkowski, don't sweat the small stuff [16:41] I've also organised the next docuument freedom day [16:41] :-) [16:42] czajkowski, they are a bit of a shabby operation [16:42] * jcastro organizes czajkowski appreciation day [16:42] but good intentions [16:42] jono: I've had to deal with one guy for hte last 4 months and suffice to say. he's RUDE!patronising and doesnt like dealing with women [16:42] * czajkowski hugs Ubuntu community [16:42] much nicer to deal with [16:44] akgraner: scp link in pm [16:45] thanks! [16:45] sad that some dudes are still like that [16:46] I roll with JFo [16:46] beer, guitars, and rock music [16:46] that's what we need more of around here [16:46] jcastro is my homeboy [16:46] +1 for jcastro 's suggestion [16:46] just sayin' [16:46] * JFo gets the guitars and rock music out [16:47] * JFo makes a run for the beer [16:47] JFo you got homeboy's...:-/ [16:47] and home girls [16:47] they are all my homeskillets ;-) [16:47] you mean homeskillet biscuits :-P [16:47] I do indeed [16:48] k, I need food [16:48] back in a bit [16:57] now I'm hungry too [16:58] I could use some tacos [16:58] jcastro: when do you move to florida? [16:58] august [16:58] cool, I'll have to have you over for a BBQ [16:59] we're going to the Boca Raton area [16:59] whereabouts are you? [16:59] between tampa and orlando [16:59] bit of a drive, but we've had people come from further for our team parties [17:00] * jcastro doesn't mind driving to release parties and all that [17:01] I'd like to do another big team party this year like we did in 2009 [17:01] gah [17:01] * mhall119 hates online systems that store passwords in clear text [17:02] * mhall119 hates it more when said systems email me my password in clear text === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [17:19] ok my friends [17:19] I call it a day [17:20] have a great rest of your day and see you tomorrow [17:20] * dholbach hugs you all [17:20] toodles [17:21] \o/ [17:22] i really should get rid of that "toodles" hilight [18:01] pleia2 / maco: Seen this interesting image? http://literatur.deviantart.com/art/ubuntu-women-200131777 [18:02] nope [18:03] would be interesting to hear the symbolism explained though [18:05] Classy: http://framli.deviantart.com/art/What-s-an-Oneiric-Ocelot-200066261 [18:09] if any of you have stackexchange logons, (askubuntu) I'd appreciate an upvote on our uupc advert... [18:09] http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/1089/community-promotion-ads-1h-2011 [18:22] hey popeys [18:22] * popey hugs jcastro [18:22] yay, we hit 7 [18:23] * popey tails logs to see when we get incoming links from askubuntu ;) [18:23] what kind of specs hw-wise do you guys have for pad.ubuntu-uk [18:23] * popey points jcastro at Daviey [18:23] its his box [18:23] ah ok [18:24] * AlanBell is intrigued that jcastro is asking that question [18:25] AlanBell: I'm just wondering [18:25] I've lost all hope of ever getting rid of gobby [18:25] why? [18:26] we seem to be made to suffer [18:26] it would be trivial to do, nobody uses gobby outside of UDS [18:26] put pad links on the schedule and it would just happen [18:27] I think the first question is, Who mandated that we use Gobby? [18:27] dunno it's always just been there [18:27] it was the collaborative editor [18:28] I used etherpad for a few of my sessions at UDS [18:28] and the old version was accessible [18:28] and no one said anything so *shrug* [18:28] http://code.google.com/p/gdata-issues/issues/detail?id=2457 [18:28] etherpad is nice if its properly hosted. [18:28] new version is silent to screen readers [18:28] JFo: check out that bug report [18:28] * nigelb remembers us killing Daviey's server with AlanBell's lighting talk. [18:28] yeah, Daviey had cut the ram to it [18:28] jcastro, do you have the bug number handy? [18:28] * JFo sees too many bugs by day :-( [18:28] http://code.google.com/p/gdata-issues/issues/detail?id=2457 [18:29] ^^^ this one [18:29] don't worry [18:29] it's not yours [18:29] however primarypad stays up and schools hit that a class at a time [18:29] and ietherpad and the old etherpad site [18:30] jcastro, wow [18:30] AlanBell: yeah, I have an ietherpad account [18:31] AlanBell: if we could write a plugin to etherpad, that could give access to LP teams like ~pad-admin as admins and ~pad-users as members on a pad, that would just rock [18:31] we would have list of pads and we could actually use it at UDS. [18:31] * nigelb thinks its actually quite plausible. [18:32] no need [18:32] * popey would avoid ietherpad for no other reason than that they spam you on twitter [18:33] I wasn't endorsing ietherpad, just declaring it to exist [18:33] why do you need admin access to a pad? what does that even mean? [18:33] I wasn't endorsing ietherpad, just "etherpad" as a product [18:33] AlanBell: admins can delete etc [18:34] well that could be done, but I don't see the need for it [18:34] AlanBell: have you got a pro account on any of the pad hosting thingies like ietherpad? [18:34] yes [18:34] i have a pro account on a few pads [18:34] I don't have a pro account [18:34] i dont see the need for access controls either [18:34] I only really use pad.ubuntu-uk.org [18:34] Yeah, the good thing, which I thingk popey blogged about, is when you have a pro pad, you get to see pad list [18:34] there are none on gobby and that's worked [18:34] that's all. [18:34] yup [18:35] but if people name the pads sensibly thats a non issue [18:35] or [18:35] and if they link to them in irc channels (bots could do this) [18:35] if we worked pad names into summit [18:35] its just an http link [18:35] that'd work too [18:35] exactly [18:35] i think you're overthinking it [18:35] 1) put up pad [18:35] 2) use it [18:35] 3) ??? [18:35] 4) profit! [18:35] spread lik [18:36] *link [18:36] popey: I agree. I'm overthinking. [18:36] jcastro, Were you at the UDS session last time regarding etherpad? [18:37] I wonder if its actually in debian yet [18:37] nigelb, it aint. [18:37] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=576998 [18:37] Debian bug 576998 in wnpp "ITP: etherpad -- web based collaborative real-time editor" [Wishlist,Open] [18:37] it would be a trivial patch to summit to make pad links on all the sessions [18:38] AlanBell: yeah, very trivial. [18:38] and yes, the session on it at UDS was rather negative [18:38] where did the negativity come from? [18:38] *cough* not us *cough* [18:39] I just met a few debian folks today [18:39] let me talk to them tomorrow if they can help me package this giant [18:39] I don't recall names, but the feeling seemed to be that gobby is packaged, etherpad isn't therefore we won't change anything [18:39] i think Daviey had a go at it some while back [18:40] quite why a single server instance requires packaging I don't know [18:40] Daviey: can help me if I get stuck? :) [18:40] Daviey: how hard is it to spin up etherpad? [18:40] we could just have the package in Ubuntu, it is not necessary it has to be in Debian [18:40] AlanBell: well, think of wiki update and how it would be easy if it was apt-get update [18:40] I don't get why we just don't fire off an EC2 instance of it and rock it [18:41] popey, Yeah.. but i didn't have enough time to make suitable for upload [18:41] nigelb: wouldn't help at all, because the problem is that they hacked it about too much. the wiki *is* packaged. [18:41] Its not necessary, but its duplication of work. I'd prefer working as upstream as possible. [18:41] There is /possibly/ some licence issues [18:41] AlanBell: exactly. [18:41] http://apt.etherpad.org [18:41] The upstream code ships some binary. [18:41] http://apt.etherpad.org/binary-i386/ [18:41] I've done some work on etherpad some time back, probably should take a shot. [18:42] (result of me googling etherpad debian package) [18:42] http://mclear.co.uk/2010/03/10/installing-etherpad-on-debian/ [18:42] * Daviey has commit access to upstream, so i can land fixes :) [18:42] :) [18:42] so it might not be dfsg clean and ready to sit in debian testing for a few years to mature [18:42] * nigelb remembers he can poke Daviey for upstream pull requests :D [18:43] AlanBell: hrm, that means direct to Ubuntu or PPA isn't such a bad idea. [18:43] jcastro, I would suggest allowing session leaders to pick gobby vs non-canonical hosted etherpad. [18:43] I don't think that addresses the concerns that were raised, but I wasn't in the room [18:43] Daviey: well for my sessions I just picked etherpad last time [18:44] but the gobby server was also not working [18:44] jcastro, Well - we can put auto generated URL's into summit for the sessions.. [18:44] eventually, it'll catch on :) [18:44] jcastro, Have you seen etherpad hash tagging? [18:44] and prepopulate the pages with hash tags [18:44] no [18:44] AlanBell, jinxx [18:44] great minds :) [18:45] Daviey: well, see what IS thinks and guarantee me that it won't explode and I'll propose the idea to jono [18:45] * popey wonders if we could use uds.ubuntu-uk.org as the host for it ;) [18:45] jcastro, last time it was discussed at UDS, - IS - were the nackers [18:45] if you put #UbuntuTheProject in a pad it will auto link that to a search URL returning all pads tagged thusly [18:46] Daviey: well we should ask [18:46] * evilvish gah! got tricked by popey and thought that page uds.ubuntu-uk.org existed ;p [18:46] evilvish, give me 5 mins... :) [18:46] :) [18:46] \o/ [18:47] i'm not going to... :) [18:48] AlanBell, fancy making a branch for summit to auto link to a settings.ETHERPAD-URL + "/" + session title ? [18:49] sure [18:49] in a couple of days [18:49] hey [18:49] Don't know if we can merge it, but if the code is there we are a step there [18:49] is it possible [18:49] to have a page that lists all the pages? [18:49] but broken down by hashtag? [18:49] god, that would be awesome [18:49] jcastro, yes [18:49] that would be summit [18:49] with summit, we can do cool stuff :D [18:49] #uds-o #server [18:49] summit then becomes the index to the pages [18:50] as well as the multiple hashtag things in the pad server itself [18:50] and the bot can query summit and announce over IRC. [18:50] nigelb, Fancy investigating how feasible it would be to encode a list of hash tags that the pad should be pre-populated with? [18:50] Daviey: yup, can do. will coordinate with AlanBell. [18:51] nigelb, http://pad.example.org/some-page?tags=uds-o,desktop,etc would be AWESOME. [18:51] oh what the hell, I'll look right now. [18:51] we can set it all up and point at pad.ubuntu-uk.org for testing and then point it somewhere else later [18:51] people use pad. though [18:51] better not to mess with one that people are actually using? [18:52] Anyone know of somone good with css ? [18:52] o/ not great, but can manage a bit [18:52] popey: I wasn't talking about messing with the pad, just with summit [18:52] oh [18:52] sorry my bad [18:52] nigelb, Well if you want to take on more work :), fancy trying to hack up a nice ubuntu-ish theme? :) [18:52] just creating regular pages on the pad [18:52] Daviey: ooooooh, yes yes. I can poke at that too. [18:52] (i'd like to land that on pad.ubuntu-uk.org at least nigelb ) [18:53] I have the source of etherpad sitting right here on the laptop :) [18:53] Daviey: yeah, that'd rock. Though I thought you ran trunk on pad.ubuntu-uk.org [18:53] All you summit talkers need to attend the summit global jam event: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/729/detail/ [18:53] Daviey: did you get those fixes I landed. I think 2 or 3 bug fixes. [18:53] nigelb, uh? [18:54] Daviey: oh hey did you guys sort the mobile client thing with davidm? [18:54] Daviey: I did have a fix for the 'undefined' problem [18:54] Still waiting on a call for the mobile client last i heard [18:54] nigelb, did someone commit that? [18:54] * jcastro acks [18:54] Daviey: yup [18:54] Daviey: redhog did [18:54] ooooo [18:54] jcastro, Think so, it is progressing. [18:54] nigelb: cool, the undifined window title is annoying [18:54] i would _love_ to be able to use etherpad on $unnamed_tablet_shaped_device [18:54] AlanBell: yeah :) [18:55] Daviey: man when that's sorted we'll print out QR codes of the schedule and put them around the venue [18:55] jcastro: omg, that's awesome [18:55] scan, BLAM, UDS Schedule. FTW. [18:55] we're dreaming big baby :) [18:55] @popey keybuk used summit on unnamed tablet device [18:55] jcastro: QR codes, check, can do. [18:55] and then accidentally multitouched and ruined the schedule [18:56] so he reverted it and removed himself from summit admin, heh [18:56] lol [18:56] jcastro: opinion on bug 731443 please [18:56] Launchpad bug 731443 in ubuntu-website "photo slide show on uds.u.c goes too fast" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/731443 [18:56] jcastro: not etherpad he didnt [18:56] jcastro, since then, people have to click 'edit'.. [18:57] popey: I meant summit [18:57] QR code to the pad URL on the paper that gets printed and stuck to the doors would be cool [18:57] etherpad is broken on safari mobile [18:57] oh [18:57] AlanBell: oh man [18:57] summit i care less about :) [18:57] jcastro, admins used to always hae the edit view [18:57] Daviey: yeah [18:57] finally, something broken on iphone that popey does admit to. [18:57] * nigelb runs. Fast. 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