alphonsohey guys... i'm looking for a nooby way to install the latest build of gnome3... anyone know the apt line for the launchpad repository?00:26
kenvandinealphonso, http://askubuntu.com/questions/22946/how-do-i-install-the-latest-version-of-gnome-300:31
kenvandinei haven't tried it00:31
kenvandinebut there are instructions there00:31
alphonsokenvandine: thanks i'll try that00:41
alphonsokevandine: i already tried that source and i've been getting a dependency error00:42
alphonsokevandine: specifically: ppa:gnome3-team/gnome300:42
chrisccoulsonhmmm, this is really confusing me now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/578131/ :(01:31
cyphermoxTheMuso, what is the best way I can verify that the accessible description strings are properly getting set for indicators?01:41
robert_ancellRAOF, got you a dmesg with my radeon problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/578132/01:41
RAOFrobert_ancell: Full of yummy radeon failure!01:48
RAOFHm.  I suspect mesa 7.10.1 might have broken every python app that loads libGL in some way.01:54
RAOFLet's check, shall we!01:54
robert_ancellRAOF, where should I file this one?02:03
RAOFProbably the kernel, I think.02:05
robert_ancellreportbug ?02:06
robert_ancellreportbug linux-image-2.6.38-6-generic?02:07
RAOFubuntu-bug linux, although you'll probably need to attach that dmesg seperately.02:08
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Gorthaxgood evening all02:57
Gorthaxhi everyone, again03:00
Gorthaxi need help with modelines under X03:02
Gorthaxrunning 10.1003:02
Gorthaxfirst istall since intrepid03:03
Gorthaxusing a panasonic 50" as monitor03:03
didrocksgood morning06:52
pittiGood morning07:23
didrockshey pitti07:24
pittibonjour didrocks07:28
evilvishhi, anyone have a clue what could have caused Bug 732427 ?08:20
ubot2Launchpad bug 732427 in humanity-icon-theme "Regressions in latest release (" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73242708:20
* evilvish looks at other pacakges updated yday08:20
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htorqueevilvish, you say none of the icons were touched in, but according to diff almost all were changed (putting things in style="...")09:01
htorqueevilvish, could this have to do with optimizing svgs to save disk space?09:01
evilvishhtorque: do you notice the same issue?09:02
evilvish http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/natty/humanity-icon-theme/natty/revision/3109:02
htorqueevilvish, i've not yet updated09:02
evilvishstupid lp is offline again :/09:03
htorqueevilvish, just updated and i'm getting the same09:10
evilvishoh well, I no clue09:20
htorqueevilvish, this is the diff for the dark stock_person.svg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/578249/09:23
htorqueevilvish, it looks like gradients were wildly replaced - to me that sounds like an optimizing script working too aggressively ;-)09:24
evilvishnone of those have been touched :s09:24
evilvishah ha! pitti updated the rules recently, maybe thats what is causing this09:25
pittiwhat? me? I haven't touched themes in ages09:25
evilvishpitti: could you have a look at Bug 73242709:25
ubot2evilvish: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: HTTP Error 503: Service Unavailable (https://launchpad.net/bugs/732427)09:25
pitti(or ever really touch them at all)09:25
pittievilvish: no I can't -- LP is offline :)09:25
evilvishboo lp.. ;p09:26
pittievilvish: which rules did I update?09:26
evilvishpitti: if you have the humanity changelog, check it out, you modified the debian/rules09:26
pittiah, these rules09:27
evilvishpitti: i dont know why i just think these might be causing a problem : debian/rules: Build with scour; add python-scour build dependency. , debian/rules: Greatly simplify.09:27
pittievilvish: that might be scour then09:27
pittidebian/rules just changes how the .deb is put together, which doesn't affect shipped .svgs at all; but scour certainly does09:28
evilvishpitti:  cool.. , then you probably know how to fix it .. phew :)09:28
pittiit's an SVG optimizer/compressor09:28
pittievilvish: not until I know what the problem is :)09:28
pittithere's one know scour bug to mess up gradients09:29
pittibug 70242309:29
ubot2pitti: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: HTTP Error 503: Service Unavailable (https://launchpad.net/bugs/702423)09:29
evilvishpitti: sure, it modifies all the svg files … and they look odd09:29
pittiyes, it's meant to modify them all09:29
pittibut they ought to look identical afterwards09:29
evilvishtransparency seems to have been messed up and the gradients are wrong09:30
pittievilvish: ok, that sounds like another instance of above bug thhen09:30
pittievilvish: how many icons does that affect?09:30
evilvisha *lot*09:30
evilvishthat bug has screenshots09:30
pittiok, thanks09:30
pittiI guess we need to wait until LP is back up09:31
chrisccoulsongood morning everyone09:34
pittihey chrisccoulson09:37
pittichrisccoulson: ffox is translated \o/ thanks for fixing the locale detection09:37
chrisccoulsonhi pitti, how are you?09:37
chrisccoulsonoh, that's good :-)09:37
pittichrisccoulson: I'm great, thanks09:37
pittihow about yourself?09:37
chrisccoulsonyeah, i'm not too bad thanks09:37
seb128hey pitti chrisccoulson09:40
pittibonjour seb12809:40
seb128oh, launchpad is already back09:41
evilvishpitti: yay! lp is up Bug #73242709:42
ubot2Launchpad bug 732427 in humanity-icon-theme "Regressions in latest release (" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73242709:42
mvoseb128: oh? I still get 503 on bazaar.launchpad.net09:42
seb128mvo, bug editing works at least09:42
evilvishmvo: came back just a couple of mins ago09:42
chrisccoulsonhi seb128, how are you?09:42
seb128chrisccoulson, I'm fine, what about you?09:42
* mvo merges $stuff09:43
pittievilvish: right, seems to be a duplicate indeed09:43
evilvishpitti: maybe we can remove the scour dependancy and rebuilt?09:43
pittievilvish: we could do that; I was going to propose to add extra checks to dh_scour to not touch these kinds of icons09:44
pittievilvish: like comparing before-after results with rsvg09:44
evilvishpitti: ok.. i dont know any of that, so i'll let you handle it ;)09:44
chrisccoulsonseb128 - yeah, good thanks09:44
evilvishpitti: whichever you feel right/quicker09:45
pittievilvish: I'll keep the master bug on my list then, please mark it as a dupe (and perhaps add a humanity task to do a rebuild after whatever fix we apply)09:45
evilvishpitti: ok sure.. thanks :)09:46
chrisccoulsonAmpelbein, what arch are you using?09:47
seb128pitti, bug #70758509:53
ubot2Launchpad bug 707585 in language-selector "gnome-language-selector assert failure: *** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/python: free(): invalid pointer: 0x040223f2 ***" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70758509:53
seb128pitti, it's still happening in current natty09:54
pittiseb128: ah, you can reproduce it? I closed an older duplicate of it two hours ago, as I can't09:54
pittiin bug 709191 -- I'll point to that other bug then, thanks09:55
ubot2Launchpad bug 709191 in pygobject "gnome-language-selector assert failure: *** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/python: munmap_chunk(): invalid pointer: 0x00007f97ec27c3b2 ***" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70919109:55
seb128pitti, right, I read your comment on that bug so I checked the language-selector bug list09:56
pittiseb128: that one still has a bad stack trace, though09:56
seb128pitti, I just got it doing what dholbach said, played with the resize grip and closed language-selector, it crashed09:56
pittiseb128: ooh, do you still have the .crash?09:56
seb128pitti, it's easy to get, open the "install,remove languages" dialog09:57
seb128resize it09:57
seb128close it09:57
seb128l-s crashes09:57
pittinot for me :/09:58
pittiI played with all the dialogs for about 5 mins, installed stuff, removed stuff, reordered stuff, etc.09:58
pittiseb128: do you have the .crash still?09:58
seb128you don't need to interact with any dialog09:58
pittiseb128: ok, hang on before you report it -- I'll kill the dup entry in the db, so that it will generate a new trace09:58
seb128pitti, open the extra language list thing09:59
seb128resize and hit esc on the keyboard to close it09:59
seb128pitti, do it a few time if needed but I crash it in 15 seconds here09:59
pittiseb128: 707585 killed from dup db09:59
pittiseb128: I propose you report it now, and I mark the existing bug as a dupe of your's then, so that we'll get a proper stack trace10:00
seb128ok, will try in a bit10:00
pittiseb128: what's the "extra language list thing"?10:00
seb128right now apport refuses to report it because I didn't upgrade pygoject yet today10:00
seb128pitti, the "install,remove extra languages" button you get at the bottom of the first tab10:01
seb128it just crashed while I was typing on IRC now10:01
seb128it seems like a callback or something lead to the crash, it doesn't crash immediatly on action10:01
pittihm, I tried the cancel button and the close button in the window title10:01
seb128I use the wm x button10:02
pittiyeah, me too10:02
pittiaah, I found a way10:03
pittiopen install/remove, then focus the main window again, and press esc10:03
seb128ok that's likely what I did10:03
pittinot quite obvious to get10:03
seb128because esc doesn't seem to close the extra dialog10:03
seb128I probably switched to IRC to reply and back to the wrong dialog to do esc10:03
seb128pitti, if you have an uptodate system can you report the crash?10:04
seb128or I will a bit later once I upgraded10:04
pittican do10:05
seb128apport refuses to report it now because I've some outdated binaries10:05
seb128pitti, danke10:05
seb128mvo, are things like bug #717621 aptdaemon bugs?10:06
ubot2Launchpad bug 717621 in language-selector "gnome-language-selector crashed with AuthorizationFailed in _run(): org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.Failed: ('system-bus-name', {'name': ':1.34'}): org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71762110:06
seb128or bug #71334610:06
ubot2Launchpad bug 713346 in language-selector "gnome-language-selector crashed with NotAuthorizedError in _run(): org.freedesktop.PolicyKit.Error.NotAuthorized: ('system-bus-name', {'name': ':1.164'}): org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71334610:06
mvoseb128: I guess it should not generate a crash report10:14
seb128mvo, "it" being?10:15
mvoseb128: eh, the bugreport is strange, the user says starting is enough10:15
mvoseb128: yeah10:15
seb128mvo, well it might just be that the polkit daemon is down10:15
mvoaha, that would explain it10:16
pittididrocks: just submitted an upstream MP for bug 727823 -- when do you usually roll the releases, would ted still have time to review that for today's round?10:21
ubot2Launchpad bug 727823 in gnome-control-center "Enable Gnome-Control-Center in Unity, and add "System Settings" link to the session indicator menu" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72782310:22
pittididrocks: if that gets too tight, I'm also happy to do an upload myself tomorrow with a cherrypick (once it landed in trunk)10:22
didrockspitti: I think it will be fine once ted is here. The changes in indicators will be managed by kenvandine though10:23
pittiah, ok10:23
htorqueevilvish, heh, actually it's not just a couple of icons that have visual differences: http://paste.ubuntu.com/578270/ :D (used rsvg/md5sum)10:26
evilvishoh my babies!!!10:27
seb128pitti, indicator stack -> review and commit by ted, update by ken10:43
seb128pitti, tarballs are due today10:43
pittinice, thanks10:43
dholbachhello desktop hackers11:37
dholbachjhunt_ tried to fix something in gdm, but because you people mess around with bzr branches in a weird way it's all confusing :)11:38
seb128dholbach, hello pilot11:38
* dholbach hugs you all :)11:38
seb128dholbach, bzr get lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gdm/ubuntu11:38
pittihttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Bzr :)11:38
seb128hack away, bzr commit, bzr push11:38
dholbachseb128, and where should jhunt_ push his work afterwards?11:38
dholbachpitti, at least it's documented weirdness11:38
dholbachthat's like 5% good :)11:38
pitti~jhunt/gdm/myfixes ?11:38
seb128dholbach, lp:~jhunt_/gdm/lpbug11:39
seb128dholbach, lp:~jhunt_/gdm/ubuntu11:39
dholbachand then propose to merge into lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gdm/ubuntu - ok11:39
dholbachjhunt_, does that make it a bit clearer? it's not a UDD branch, but a regular bzr branch, just containing ./debian/11:40
pittijhunt_: bzr bd-do, bzr bd -S etc. all continue to work11:40
jhunt_Well, I was trying to push to lp:~jamesodhunt/gdm/ubuntu/single-user-mode-fix, but I get a helpful "permission denied" when I attempt that :)11:40
pittijhunt_: just those are 'merge mode' branches, we don't carry the upstream bits nor the weird pre-applied quilt mess11:40
dholbachjhunt_, lp:~jamesodhunt/gdm/ubuntu/single-user-mode-fix is a UDD branch11:41
pittijhunt_: presumably this should be ubuntu/natty/, not ubuntu/ ?11:41
dholbachso LP might get a bit confused :)11:41
seb128jhunt_, lp:~jamesodhunt/gdm/ubuntu should work11:41
dholbachpitti, no11:41
pittithere are no release-less UDD branches AFAIK11:41
pitti(and yes, pushing to an UDD branch would still be wrong, but it ought to work anyway)11:41
pittiI do that with udev all the time11:42
dholbachpitti, mixing UDD and regular branches?11:42
jhunt_well, I'm certainly confused :) Is all this documented somewhere? Why do I need to care that it isn't a UDD branch?11:42
pittidholbach: as I said it shouldn't be done, but it should still work11:42
dholbachok :)11:42
pittijhunt_: you don't really11:42
jhunt_It would be good if there was a bzr plugin/cmd that could offer suggestsions of logical places I could push to, maybe if I could specify a location "prefix" of lp:~jamesodhunt.11:43
pittibzr bd should take care of how to build the source/binaries, and with "bzr bd-do" you get an UDD-like full source tree you can hack in11:43
jhunt_I'll try lp:~jamesodhunt/gdm/ubuntu...11:43
pittibut anyway, I highly doubt that you can push to lp:~jamesodhunt/gdm/ubuntu/single-user-mode-fix even with an UDD branch11:44
pittidistro branches have 5 components, not 4 (always specifying the release)11:44
pittijhunt_: oh, and wrong order; it's owner/distro/release/package/name, not package/release11:45
pittijhunt_: i. e. your's would try to push into the "gdm" distro :)11:46
jhunt_Right, we have a spanky new merge proposal now: https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/gdm/ubuntu/+merge/5283011:50
jhunt_Thx for help. Do we have a wiki page explaining all these naming conventions somewhere?11:51
pittijhunt_: good question; although there's really only two -- project branches (~owner/project/branchname) and distro branches (~owner/distro/release/package/branchname)11:52
jhunt_Ok, but do we document that?11:52
pittijhunt_: (wrong merge target, btw; lp:gdm is the upstream import, you want to merge into lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gdm/ubuntu)11:53
pittithat's why it messed up the review diff11:53
pittibut http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/gdm/ubuntu/revision/309 looks fine11:53
pittijhunt_: I hope so, but I don't know where I'm afraid11:53
pittihttp://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/tutorials/using_bazaar_with_launchpad.html is linked from the launchpad help about code hosting11:54
pittiit doesn't have the distro branches, though; these sohuld be on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/11:55
jhunt_ok, that first link is useful, but is rather sparse on the "personal branches" section which is after all what newbies really want to know about since they are unlikely to have permission to push to project/team branches I'm guessing?11:58
jhunt_Also, since that bzr link is generic, there is no mention of the fact that lp:ubuntu/foo is an alias for lp:~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/natty/foo/natty (I've only just learnt that :)11:59
jhunt_I'm happy to put up some info on the wiki with what you guys have shared with me later today? It would of course require a review from y'all!12:01
jhunt_Looks like these pages need tweaks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/Documentation/SeekingSponsorship and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/Documentation/UploadingAPackage12:02
jhunt_Maybe a new page referenced by both those pages would be appropriate?12:02
pittijhunt_: right, I think it'd be best on the sponsorship documentation pages12:02
jhunt_pitti: ok, thx.12:02
seb128jhunt_, thanks for the work, sorry the desktop layout is non standard and creating confusion12:05
jhunt_np - It's all a learning experience for me :-)12:06
pittiseb128: (not that UDD branches with pre-applied quilt patches would be any easier..)12:07
seb128pitti, there is a reason dx stack is still on source v112:08
dholbachlooks like you guys are figuring it out :)12:09
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seb128jhunt_, the new merge request is still wrong12:15
seb128jhunt_, it's against lp:gdm which is the upstream code import12:16
Sweetsharkpitti: you will find a hyphen and hunspell update here: https://code.launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen they succeded in building already in this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen/+archive/libreoffice-testing12:20
jhunt_seb128: My branch .bzr/branch/branch.conf shows that parent = "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gdm/ubuntu/" and I took your advice above to push to lp:~jamesodhunt/gdm/ubuntu ?12:22
pittijhunt_: that was correct; the MP should be against lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gdm/ubuntu though, not against lp:gdm (which I suppose Launchpad defaults to)12:22
seb128jhunt_, well I'm not sure what went wrong, can you edit the merge into target?12:22
seb128into -> info12:23
pittino, unfortuantely you can't edit the target of MPs12:23
pittiseb128: but we can still just merge from James' branch and close the MP manually12:23
pittino big deal12:23
pittiso let's not make it harder than it is12:23
seb128still it's annoying that it's so bumpy to get a trivial fix in the sponsoring queue12:23
seb128pitti, well I was rather trying to figure how to avoid going through the same issues each time someone want to do a merge request for a desktop component12:24
seb128we can sure commit that patch in12:24
jhunt_I've spent about 2 hours on this fwiw. The fix took 30 minutes :(12:24
seb128jhunt_, sorry about that :-(12:24
seb128some days I really like the old debdiff way better12:25
Ampelbeinchrisccoulson: hey, my problem with thunderbird-globalmenu has somehow vanished. after today's updates I can use the menu as normal. thanks for your help, though I wish I knew what was wrong.12:25
jhunt_seb128: thx12:25
chrisccoulsonAmpelbein, oh, the other person with the same problem said the same thing this morning too :)12:26
chrisccoulsonnot sure what was happening ;)12:26
Ampelbeinchrisccoulson: maybe the radiation from the sun was abnormally strong yesterday and cause interference with the display bits.12:27
Ampelbeinchrisccoulson: at least it's resolved now ;-)12:27
cyphermoxgood morning!13:12
mterrychrisccoulson, who's this l33t chrisccouls0n character?  :)13:20
mterrychrisccoulson, can you give a quick look at bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/+bug/728825 ?  Similar bugs in the past seem to have been because of xulrunner.  Might be an amd64 thing, as reporters all indicate using it...13:23
ubot2Launchpad bug 728825 in eclipse "Eclipse cannot start: "java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-gtk-3557 or swt-gtk"" [Critical,Confirmed]13:23
chrisccoulsonmterry - sure, i can take a look13:30
chrisccoulsonoh, i'm still logged in to my lucid desktop?13:30
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seb128pitti, bug #729526 is a crash some users ran into14:27
ubot2Launchpad bug 729526 in jockey "jockey-text crashed with UnicodeEncodeError in error_msg(): 'ascii' codec can't encode characters in position 0-2: ordinal not in range(128)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72952614:27
seb128pitti, do you prefer IRC pings for those or should I just assign to you?14:27
pittiseb128: thanks, putting on my list14:27
pittiseb128: just assign them to me; I can still unassign if I don't have time etc.14:27
seb128pitti, ok thanks14:27
pittiseb128: I have language-selector fixed now, FYI14:28
pittiwell, gtk2 really14:28
seb128pitti, I saw your annotation fix earlier14:28
seb128you got the second issue fixed as well?14:28
* pitti wants GTK3 :)14:28
pittiseb128: yes14:28
seb128great ;-)14:28
pittinot sure whether I should do a GTK2 upload just for this, though; I'd just commit the patch into our bzr for now14:29
seb128pitti, I don't think new versions are planned so you can as well upload14:31
seb128pitti, ok, I assigned you a bunch of jockey-text unicode errors14:31
seb128not sure if they are the same bug or not14:31
pittime wants python 3 :)14:32
seb128pedro_, hey14:33
seb128pedro_, do you have a script to clean duplicates or something?14:33
pitti  Uploading language-selector_0.26_source.changes: 2k/3k426 Transfer aborted.  Data connection closed.14:33
pittithat happened twice  now14:33
seb128pedro_, jockey has 29 crashes which matches "crashed with DBusException in call_blocking()"14:33
kenvandineseb128, thx for the tp syncs14:34
seb128would be nice to clean those14:34
seb128kenvandine, hey, you're welcome14:34
pittiseb128: that doesn't say much, I'm afraid -- that just means "the backend has crashed for whatever reason"14:34
pittihey kenvandine, good morning14:34
seb128kenvandine, the glib one didn't build on armel so don't be supprised if the linaro guys run after you14:34
kenvandinehey pitti14:34
pedro_seb128, hello, ok i'll take care of those14:35
pedro_a bug pattern should do the trick14:35
seb128pedro_, in fact they might not be duplicates, see pitti comments14:35
seb128so maybe don't bother14:35
seb128pedro_, how are you btw?14:36
jhunt_pitti, seb128, dholbach: jelmer tells me my last gdm merge request was against the wrong branch. Thus, I spun the roulette wheel again, and we now have this: https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/ubuntu/natty/gdm/single-user-mode-fix/+merge/5286014:37
pedro_seb128, I'm good, thanks. how are you doing?14:37
seb128pedro_, I'm fine thanks14:38
seb128jhunt_, still wrong :-(14:38
jhunt_seb128: I give up.14:39
seb128jhunt_, but stop wasting time on it we will just merge the patch14:39
seb128jhunt_, btw if you feel like to reply do an ubuntu-devel list email about how you spent hours to figure how to do a merge request and failed that would be useful14:39
seb128jhunt_, seems like a flaw in the process we should address14:40
seb128jhunt_, like reply to one of the patch pilot emails on the list or write just about your experience and what didn't work14:40
jhunt_seb128: it might take me a while to get my strength back after this episode, but yes, I agree - the phrase "it shouldn't be this hard" springs to mind very quickly indeed!14:40
jhunt_trouble is, I've deleted all my failed attempts (branches+merges), but once I've regained my sanity, I'll attempt to pen something rant-free to the list...14:42
jhunt_course, that assumes I *do* regain my sanity :)14:42
seb128pitti, did you bzr push --overwrite on gdm?14:47
pittiseb128: I think I removed the older patch for bug 724205 in teh meantime14:48
ubot2Launchpad bug 724205 in gdm "gdm crash on using login button with passwordless login enabled" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72420514:48
pittiand replaced it with the current one14:48
pittiseb128: but that was yesterday14:48
pittiI think I checked that I didn't kill anything else, did I?14:48
seb128pitti, ok but you did --overwrite right?14:48
seb128pitti, I'm trying to figure why r308 is different in jhunt_'s merge request and trunk14:49
seb128pitti, I'm wondering if that's what confused things14:49
seb128pitti, like he did checkout the old revision and you overwrote it14:49
pitti'k, sorry about that14:49
seb128that really confused things for the merge proposal14:49
seb128pitti, no worry, it just makes a bit of sense now14:49
seb128pitti, I'm commiting his patch to trunk14:49
seb128jhunt_, ^ I think you might have got bitten by that as well, pitti did an uncommit, changed a revision to use the official upstream patch and pushed with --overwrite14:50
seb128jhunt_, but that leaded to have a different history in your checkout done before the hack14:50
pittiok, I'll try to avoid that in the future, and just commit a new version replacing the patch14:52
jhunt_seb128: ok, so presumably, when I pushed my branch to below lp:~jamesodhunt, bzr (silently?!) realized the branches had diverged and re-diffed my branch against the new branch history for gdm?14:52
seb128pitti, I do it also sometimes I never though of such cases14:53
jhunt_if true, that sounds like a bug? since if I had privs to push direct to the branch pitti had --overwritten, bzr would have given an error right?14:53
seb128jhunt_, not sure but I'm wondering if that leaded the merge request logic to not find the right merge target14:53
seb128jhunt_, well in any case your patch is in trunk now14:54
jhunt_awesome, I can die happy now - seriously! :-)14:54
seb128jhunt_, do you plan to test on lucid?14:54
seb128jhunt_, if you do don't bother with merge request, just ping me with a diff or tell me if the natty diff applies to lucid14:55
seb128jhunt_, it seems we should fix that in lucid as well14:55
jhunt_can do. I saw this applied to a number of releaes, but unlikely I'll be able to test it today. tomorrow ok?14:56
seb128jhunt_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/gdm/+bug/436936/comments/1014:56
ubot2Launchpad bug 436936 in gdm "gdm upstart job checks /proc/cmdline for single user mode, won't start on post-boot runlevel change" [Medium,Fix committed]14:56
pittiseb128: (pushed a slight changelog fix to bzr, in case you want to upload please pull again)14:56
seb128jhunt_, no hurry, it's not like that was a new issue, next week will do14:56
jhunt_seb128: ack14:56
jhunt_seb128: cool14:57
seb128jhunt_, thanks again!14:57
seb128pitti, just curious but why was that needed? I tend to let the start of the changlog match the uploader14:57
pittiit's the format that dch does by default14:58
seb128pitti, if someone else do dch -r it will put your name in brackets and replace the uploader14:58
pittiso I usually try to keep it consistent14:58
pittiseb128: will it? I had cases where this didn't work14:58
seb128pitti, no it's not the default format14:58
pittiif that got fixed, it was probably unnecessary14:58
seb128it I do dch -r now it replaces the uploader line with my name, add [ pitti ] and I can type on top14:58
seb128it doesn't put my name in brackets14:59
seb128but well it's a detail ;-)14:59
pittiok, so this got fixed then; last time I tried it (a while ago admittedly) it didn't update the first block at all14:59
seb128pitti, well it works for me, didn't run into bugs so far14:59
* pitti uploads new gtk as well, for extra crash fix love14:59
seb128I might just upload gdm as well15:00
seb128there is a crash fix and the new patch now15:00
seb128let me check git if they have anything we could backport as well15:00
pittitedg: good morning15:01
tedgGood morning pitti15:03
pittitedg: I have a nicely working session indicator now with control center link15:07
pittitedg: I wondered if you want to entirely drop the static indicator-session-extra.desktop support?15:08
pittisince with the /usr/share/indicators/session/applications/*.desktop support it's equally easy to add stuff to it, but avoids tramping on each other's foot15:08
tedgpitti, I think so.  I don't see any reason to have the static file other than as a placeholder for not having the directory.  With the directory, it's SO much better :)15:09
pittiagreed; ok, I'll update the branch accordingly15:09
pittitedg: ok, pushed; MP should update itself in a minute15:11
mterrychrisccoulson, are you actively working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/709216 ?  it's annoying me enough that I'm about to try to fix it15:12
ubot2Launchpad bug 709216 in thunderbird "clicking on a link dont open the page " [High,Triaged]15:12
chrisccoulsonmterry - yes. it needs quite a bit of work15:13
mterrychrisccoulson, beyond updating it to use new gio functions for getting default app?15:13
tedgpitti, Cool, thanks!15:13
chrisccoulsonmterry - basically, yes. it's more complicated than that though, as the whole URI handling part of mozilla is a mess15:14
chrisccoulsonmterry, we basically need http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2572312e17df , https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=639467 and https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61195315:17
ubot2Mozilla bug 639467 in File Handling "External URI handling broken due to protocol handler registration changes" [Normal,New]15:17
mterrychrisccoulson, so you're saying I shouldn't bother doing anything right now?15:18
chrisccoulsonmterry - right, that's something i'm already working on15:18
* mterry waits patiently15:18
mterrychrisccoulson, OK, awesome  :)  thanks15:18
seb128mterry, hey, I see you are bored? ;-)15:20
mterryseb128, nope!15:20
seb128nice try :p15:20
mterryJust angry at thunderbird  :)15:21
seb128tedg, do you think you will have time to fix karl's merge request on https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-datetime/trunk/+activereviews for today tarball?15:21
seb128tedg, since he's off this week, would be nice to land some fixes at least in the tarball15:22
* bcurtiswx waves to room15:23
seb128hey bcurtiswx15:23
bcurtiswxhi seb12815:23
tedgseb128, Let me check.  I wasn't told he was off :-(15:24
seb128tedg, well he's off for 3 days, but otherwise no worry we will just need to catch up on that next week15:24
bcurtiswxif i take a package without an -ubuntu extension from bzr and merge-upstream , is that still considered a sync?15:32
Laneya sync is copying a package unmodified from debian15:34
Laney(so no)15:34
bcurtiswxOK, so a merge-upstream really only applies to merge request then15:34
bcurtiswxdon't mind me 1000 MegaQuestions here, but merges and sync's can only come from debian or does it matter, or how is it supposed to work?15:40
* kenvandine bcurtiswx15:42
kenvandinecan you send me an IM?15:42
kenvandinebcurtiswx, ^^15:42
bcurtiswxlol, sure15:43
pittididrocks, tedg: whom do I need to whine to to whitelist mumble in the unity systray?16:15
tedgpitti, Let's pretend there isn't a white list :-)16:16
didrockspitti: open a bug against unity-misc and subscribe me. I'll ping design before doing the change16:16
* tedg really doesn't want to see things end up there.16:16
pittithat's a product, I take it16:16
pittihm, no16:17
pittididrocks: what is unity-misc?16:18
didrockspitti: it's the systray16:18
didrocksand history some other code that was removed16:18
pittididrocks: I mean, it's not a binary or source package or launchpad product16:18
didrockslibunity-misc maybe16:18
pittiah, thanks :)16:18
didrocksyeah https://launchpad.net/libunity-misc :)16:19
seb128pitti, one think njpatel wanted is to turn the systray option in mumble off by default16:20
seb128like having close to close and not send to the systray16:21
njpatelthat would save a lot of people headaches16:21
pittididrocks: filed as bug 73268216:21
ubot2Launchpad bug 732682 in libunity-misc "Whitelist mumble for systray" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73268216:21
dobeypitti: hey. i think there's a desktopcouch change in lucid-proposed waiting for approval. could you poke at it please?16:21
pittinjpatel: it's my current number one annoyance with unity really16:21
pittiI can't see whether I'm currently muted or not, or quickly mute myself16:21
didrockspitti: thanks, subscribed16:21
pittiwell, number two, as the actual Control key stealing seems fixed :)16:22
pittidobey: no, it's not, see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=16:22
dobeypitti: ah. hrmm. do the package upload privs also apply to -proposed uploads with dput?16:23
pittidobey: in general yes, but it might be that they weren't fully applied16:23
dobeypitti: hrmm, ok, thanks16:26
Sweetsharkpitti: openthesaurus has also been updated https://code.launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen and https://launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen/+archive/libreoffice-testing16:33
pittithe unstoppable Sweetshark!16:34
pittiseb128: your three jockey bugs are fixed now (just uploaded); bring 'em on!16:35
seb128pitti, were they the same issue?16:35
pittiwell, same root cause16:36
seb128ok, I figured it might be the case16:36
seb128pitti, bug #727169 could be as well?16:36
ubot2Launchpad bug 727169 in jockey "jockey-text crashed with UnicodeEncodeError in ui_progress_start(): 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xe9' in position 13: ordinal not in range(128)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72716916:36
seb128pitti, danke16:37
pittiI need 15 more fixes to catch up with mvo16:37
pittididrocks is way up in the sky, though16:37
seb128pitti, I think jockey seemed cleaned on crashers out of those16:37
* pitti hugs didrocks and mvo16:37
pittiand seb128, too16:37
* seb128 hugs pitti16:37
* didrocks hugs pitti back :)16:37
seb128I'm out of the bugs closing game this cycle16:37
seb128without GNOME updates I can't compete with the unity team :p16:37
didrocksmvo: don't let something not cheating beating you! :)16:37
* didrocks hugs mvo16:38
* mvo hugs pitti and didrocks16:38
mvobeat me on what exactly?16:38
didrocksclosed bug count :)16:38
pittimvo: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/bug-fixing/natty-fixes-report.html16:38
chrisccoulsontedg, were you able to reproduce bug 718926 in anything other than firefox?16:39
ubot2Launchpad bug 718926 in bamf "Some apps don't integrate to appmenu after having their windows closed" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71892616:39
mvogeeeh, didrocks is *so* far in the lead16:39
mvoits not even funny16:39
* mvo hugs didrocks16:39
* didrocks hugs mvo, sorry for this :)16:40
pittimvo: TBH I think he's got an entire team working for him :)16:40
tedgchrisccoulson, I didn't try anything other than Firefox... but, I was able to see the bamf daemon sending the "ViewClosed" signal incorrectly.16:40
pittibut he rocks the hourse anyway!16:40
didrockspitti: see, why I'm picking them on fixing bugs!16:40
chrisccoulsonor, is that "horse"?16:40
didrocksI have a record to beat :)16:40
pittichrisccoulson: speling is ovreratd16:41
mvofull of hidden talents!16:41
chrisccoulsontedg - i only got it in firefox so far. i'm not sure how to debug it, i'd like to get it fixed :)16:41
* pitti holds up a cardboard sign: For sale: spare 'R'16:42
chrisccoulsonheh :)16:42
tedgchrisccoulson, Stop minimizing Firefox; no issue :)16:42
chrisccoulsonlets remove the minimize buttons!16:42
chrisccoulsonproblem solved :)16:42
tedgchrisccoulson, It's going to be in the bowels of BAMF.  You can look there, but it's scary.16:43
chrisccoulsontedg - bamf didn't change recently though :(16:43
chrisccoulsoni thought that perhaps it might be a compiz issue, but i tried downgrading that and still got the same issue16:43
tedgchrisccoulson, Yes, I think that indicator-appmenu changed to make it more sensitive to this error.16:43
tedgchrisccoulson, Since the destruction was moved from the WindowMenus object up a step I think that has made this issue visible.16:44
chrisccoulsonah, ok16:44
Sweetsharkpitti: openoffice.org transitionals has also been updated https://code.launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen and https://launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen/+archive/libreoffice-testing17:08
Sweetsharkoh, hmm17:09
Sweetsharksemms not to be there yet.17:09
pittiSweetshark: hm, I don't see transitionals on https://code.launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen17:12
Sweetsharkah, right. that was a copy paste error as the transitionals are on git17:14
bcurtiswxseb128, from the versions page.  For consolekit, since the ubuntu version doesn't have the ubuntu tag, is that a package I can work on, or does it need higher privileges ?17:21
seb128we can probably just sync this one from debian17:22
bcurtiswxseb128, is there anything I could do to get it ready?17:22
pittibcurtiswx: for these (pkg-utopia) I actually prefer committing directly to the debian git and sync17:23
pittiavoids having to do stuff twice17:23
pittibcurtiswx: so if you feel like it, send a format-patch against git://git.debian.org/git/pkg-utopia/consolekit17:24
seb128bcurtiswx, you can update bug-buggy or merge gnome-pkg-tools I guess17:24
bcurtiswxpitti, i was just talking about getting it packaged for ubuntu, i have nothing to change in it17:24
seb128bcurtiswx, it's packaged17:24
seb128bcurtiswx, we are just a minor revision behind and the commits in the new ones are mostly for systemd17:25
seb128consolekit that it17:25
pittiyeah, I guess we can sync, but I haven't tested or reviewed NEWS17:25
bcurtiswxpitti, seb128, OK i think my questions been answered.. thanks :)17:26
pittibcurtiswx: so if you feel like testing 0.4.4-1, please go ahead and let me know17:26
seb128it's like 3 git commits and they are for systemd17:26
pittiah, right; so, not really interesting17:27
seb128no, it would just make extra green on versions ;-)17:27
pittiSweetshark: oo.o uploading now, too17:28
bcurtiswxpitti, yea, i'm just interested in getting some more packages worked on.  Eventually i'll add these items to an MOTU application :)17:28
mterryseb128, heyo.  question for ya.  now that indicator-datetime-preferences is a thing, time-admin is redundant.  Is it most appropriate to not install it at all or to split it into a separate binary package?17:34
seb128mterry, does it covert the same functionalities, like ntp syncing?17:35
mterryseb128, yup17:35
seb128I guess check with xubuntu maybe17:36
seb128not sure if they use it or not17:36
seb128if they do we should split it in a new binary17:36
mterryseb128, ok17:37
pittiwow, versions.html is quick -- it shows new nux/unity even before didrocks uploads them ;)17:38
didrocksahah :)17:38
didrockspitti: I'm building stuff on my netbook right now17:39
didrocksbecause of my dead laptop :/17:39
pittididrocks: hah, I knew it can't beat you17:39
pittididrocks: what happened with it?17:39
didrockspitti: I started yesterday morning, rebooted and got something like that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wINkdSpU2o17:40
didrocksseems to be a well-known issue from dell with nvidia card17:40
didrocksbasically, the "fix" is to put it in the oven17:40
pittiyou're kidding, right?17:41
didrocks(no need to see the 3D doesn't even work)17:41
didrocksno, I'm not17:41
didrocksthere are tons of videos/threads on the subject17:41
didrocksbasically, the graphic card joins are disabled17:41
pittididrocks: are these stripes reflection or the problem?17:41
pittididrocks: you don't have 24/7 support for this one?17:42
didrockspitti: yeah, it's the issue and no acceleration…17:42
didrocksno, the laptop is more than 3 years old17:42
didrocksand dell tells "it's 400€ for a new card"17:43
didrockspeople sometimes changed it17:43
didrocksand it broke again 4 months after17:43
* pitti grabs a quick dinner before TB meeting17:43
Sarvattdidrocks: nvidia gpu?17:48
didrocksSarvatt: yeah :/17:48
Sarvattdidrocks: I'm getting a new laptop out of that from HP, http://www.nvidiasettlement.com/17:49
SarvattUS only though :(17:49
didrocksSarvatt: seems people are trying to get the same with Dell, not as good reseller…17:49
Sarvattgeforce 8xxx series right?17:50
didrocksSarvatt: 7900 GS17:53
Sarvattdidrocks: hrm, 7900 GS is high end enough that should be on a separate MXM card17:59
Sarvattdidrocks: you cant get a replacement for cheap on ebay?17:59
Sarvattdidrocks: ehh that is kind of spendy, $150 USD18:00
Sarvattfor such an old GPU18:01
didrocksSarvatt: right :/18:02
didrocksSarvatt: hence I'll try the "oven trick"18:03
didrockssee how long it can work…18:03
SarvattI did something similar on an old ibook that had a BGA mounted gpu that screwed up with the same problem and it's lasted 7 years after, burned a tea candle directly on the core :)18:05
didrockswaow ;)18:08
didrockshow much time for heating it?18:08
didrocksI read, put at the room temperature -> 200°C 10min18:09
didrocksthen open the door and let it cool down in the over shutted down18:09
Sarvattyep thats what I'm reading too18:10
* didrocks crosses fingers for 7 years as well :)18:13
pittididrocks: that just sounds crazy18:19
Sarvattdidrocks: http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware/385973-how-repair-your-dead-graphics-card-your-alienware.html18:19
didrockspitti: yeah, I had the same reaction, but reading and digging a lot in foroms yesterday evening showed me it's not a fake18:19
pittiexposing all these plastic bits, sensitive chips, and the HD to such high temperatures sounds like you'd only get a molten lump back..18:19
pittididrocks: well, it can't get much worse..18:20
Sarvatthis gpu is on a separate card18:20
pittididrocks: but for building, you could use ssh or VNC and use the laptop for package builds?18:20
didrockspitti: it's only the GPU card :)18:20
pittididrocks: ah, you can take it out and put that into the oven?18:20
didrockspitti: yeah, but right now, I started to remove the card…18:20
pittiah, *phew*18:21
pittididrocks: I thought the whole thing, with TFT and plastic pieces18:21
didrocksno, of course :)18:21
pittiso that'll melt just enough to bond the broken circuit paths back together :)18:22
didrockspitti: hopefully :)18:24
didrocksSarvatt: yeah, I read a similar tutorial, I'll just avoid the termal chock though18:24
mterrypitti, heyo, I'm off tomorrow, btw, in case anyone is looking for me.  (debt collectors, people with dbusmenu bugs to assign, etc)18:54
pittihey mterry; noted, thanks18:54
pittienjoy the day off!18:55
* pitti hugs didrocks for alt+f219:04
* didrocks hugs pitti back :)19:05
didrockspitti: wait that I can push it though :)19:05
pitti"Dash needs keyboard navigation" yay!19:06
pittididrocks: just reading -changes@ :)19:06
pitti"Pressing ENTER in the dash during a search should open the first19:06
pitti      displayed item"19:06
didrocksyeah, was much needed for alt + F2 :)19:06
evilvishpitti: once you've fixed the scour bug, pls pull from the lp:~ubuntu-art-pkg/humanity/release branch before rebuilding it.. it has 1 new rev i fixed a bug there19:08
pittievilvish: that's the main vcs-bzr, right?19:09
pittii. e. no merge necessary19:09
pittiokay; I do that anyway19:09
pittievilvish: you don't use "UNRELEASED"?19:10
pittiit says "natty" in the changelog already19:10
evilvishpitti: usually no, that branch is just meant for Natty..19:10
evilvishi mean for release19:10
evilvishpitti: we have a different working branch19:11
* pitti waves good nght19:13
pittinight, even19:13
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dobeyhrmm, i can't seem to upload my package20:02
dobeykeep getting this:20:03
dobey  Uploading ubuntuone-client_1.5.6-0ubuntu2_source.changes: 2k/3k426 Transfer aborted.  Data connection closed.20:03
micahgdobey: bug 73263820:03
ubot2Launchpad bug 732638 in launchpad "Poppy FTP server returning "426 transfer aborted" errors for .changes files" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73263820:03
dobeyah fun :-/20:03
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tkamppeterdobey, but your package got uploaded anyway. For me the same happened with HPLIP.20:31
dobeyyes i see that20:38
dobeyas documented in the bug20:38
broderDoes anybody know of good documentation on the _NET_WM_SYNC_REQUEST protocol? I'm reading the EWMH spec and I don't really understand the order of sync requests vs. XConfigureWindow calls vs. ConfigureNotify events, etc21:24
broder(In particular, from my reading of the spec, the WM isn't really supposed to send more one sync request/XConfigureWindow pair at a time, but compiz doesn't seem to have anything to limit that)21:26
didrockspitti, Sarvatt: FYI, the over trick worked \o/21:29
seb128mpt, hey22:14
mpthi seb12822:14
seb128mpt, bug #732794, when did you log in your user account for the first time?22:14
ubot2Launchpad bug 732794 in unity "Guest session has "Home Folder" in launcher while normal account does not" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73279422:14
seb128mpt, the icon was changed to be the user dir one in today, if you have a launcher config created before that it has the old icon because there is no migration code during unstable cycles22:15
seb128new installs or new accounts should get the same icon that the guest session22:15
mptseb128, I first logged in to that account yesterday22:15
seb128so that's not a bug22:15
seb128you just have a launcher config created from the old version22:16
mptfair enough22:16
seb128mpt, you can try to do "gsettings reset com.canonical.Unity.Launcher favorites"22:17
seb128on a command line22:17
seb128to restart your launcher22:17
seb128mpt, bug #732785, you mean you get not decorations right?22:18
ubot2Launchpad bug 732785 in unity "Guest session has menu bar and launcher, but no window title bars" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73278522:18
chrisccoulsonhmmm, jo logged in to her user account on my laptop today and ended up with no decorations too22:19
seb128there is a known issue pitti was talking about this week22:20
seb128bug #73049522:21
ubot2Launchpad bug 730495 in compiz "unity-window-decorator doesn't start on secondary X session" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73049522:21
mptseb128, that's another way of describing it, yes22:22
seb128mpt, ok, so it's a duplicate22:22
seb128mpt, do you want me to close the launcher issue or will you do it?22:22
mptI don't mind22:23
seb128mpt, ok, I'm closing it22:23
chrisccoulsonmpt, what's with the "sniffles" btw? ;)23:31
mptchrisccoulson, JohnLea asked Canonical's Unity designers to use that tag on all the bugs we reported about Unity23:31
chrisccoulsonah, ok23:32

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