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[00:47] <Mase_wk> hey guys, i have a developer who has packaged an application for debian and would like a mentor to  get it into debian. I would also be happy to maintain this package,in either debian or ubuntu.
[00:47] <Mase_wk> http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-symfony/phing.git
[00:47] <Mase_wk> i was wondering how we could go about getting this included in ubuntu /debian
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[02:40] <aroman> hey, I'm working on an ubuntu based linux distro. When I change /etc/lsb-release to be custom to this distro, it breaks most of apt/package management. It tries to look for repositories with the name of my distro, not with maverick. However, if I use "maverick", other things do not display correctly. How can I fix this?
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[04:42] <syn-ack> fta, Nevermind. I found you in here... You around, sir?
[04:42] <micahg> syn-ack: not likely for a few more hours
[04:43] <syn-ack> hrm wanted to see if Chromium misbehaving was a product of the browser or if it may be something else...
[04:44] <syn-ack> I have a feeling its Mutter, but since I couldn't find a bug list for Chromium, I figured I'd hunt him down and get his advice.
[04:44] <micahg> syn-ack: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/
[04:45] <syn-ack> ugh, I feel like such a tool. I went to the PPA for it.
[04:46] <syn-ack> I'm not normally this absent minded.
[04:46] <micahg> syn-ack: don't worry about it
[04:47] <syn-ack> Good evening sabdfl.
[04:47] <sabdfl> hiya syn-ack
[04:48] <syn-ack> sabdfl, Nice to see you around. I don't normally come in to the dev channel so I guess I lucked out for once. ;)
[04:48] <sabdfl> i'm often around, but i'm not the real expert here ;-)
[05:14] <Mase_wk> hey guys, i have a developer who has packaged an application for debian and would like a mentor to  get it into debian. I would also be happy to maintain this package,in either debian or ubuntu.
[05:14] <Mase_wk> http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-symfony/phing.git
[05:14] <Mase_wk> i was wondering how we could go about getting this included in ubuntu /debian
[05:14] <Mase_wk> apparently Nicolas, the guy who packaged this has tried to get a mentor in debian
[05:15] <Mase_wk> but has so far been unsuccessful
[05:16] <Mase_wk> i believe there are now at least 3 frameworks that use this build system and at least two people willing to maintain it, we just need some guidance as to how to procede from here
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[06:52] <didrocks> good morning
[07:23] <pitti> good morning
[07:43] <raphink> good morning
[07:48] <dholbach> good morning
[07:51] <raphink> hi dholbach  :-)
[07:51] <dholbach> hey raphink
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[08:24] <amitk> njpatel: where would a developer look for specs to integrate software with the global menu?
[08:30] <njpatel> amitk, is it non gtk/qt/xul/OO.org software?
[08:31] <njpatel> amitk, if so, I think the best person to speak to is tedg when he's up, as he will know at which point to attack from :)
[08:42] <amitk> njpatel: it is mumble, I filled bug 731302 against it and the developer wants to know how to go about integrating into the global menu
[08:42] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 731302 in mumble (Ubuntu) "mumble not integrated with global menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/731302
[08:42] <amitk> *filed
[08:43] <njpatel> amitk, ah, interesting
[08:43] <njpatel> ted will know for sure
[08:44] <amitk> I'll add him to the bg
[08:44] <amitk> bug
[08:44] <njpatel> I thought mumble was Qt?
[08:44] <amitk> yeah, i think so too
[08:44] <njpatel> or maybe they are doing something different
[08:44] <njpatel> I thought Qt apps were automatically supported
[08:44] <njpatel> anyway, will also ping ted
[08:44] <njpatel> he normally logs in around 2pm GMT
[08:50] <RAOF> Hm.  There'll be some ELF/TLS ABI wizards in here at some point I bet.  Am I correct in my belief that dlopen-ing a shared library with class TLS_STATIC will only work by accident, and cause wierd things like bug #259219 if you're unlucky?
[08:51] <ubottu> Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/259219)
[08:57] <amitk> njpatel: I wonder if the skype icon not showing up in the systray is also related (it being in Qt as well)
[08:59] <njpatel> amitk, skype should definitely be showing up (I have it now), what version of Unity are you running?
[09:00] <amitk> njpatel: 3.6.2-0ubuntu1
[09:02] <pitti> nooo, Lp offline
[09:03] <njpatel> pitti, yeah, for the next 1.5 hours
[09:03] <pitti> didn't we use to have a yellow warning box about an hour before in the past?
[09:03] <pitti> anyway, /me pats firefox for not eating his very long comment I just typed, when going back a page
[09:03] <njpatel> amitk, hmm,  inside your ~/.Xsession-errors, can you grep for "skype" and see if you got an Accepted or Rejected from Unity?
[09:03] <njpatel> pitti, oh, yes, we definitely did
[09:04] <njpatel> I wonder what happened to that...
[09:05]  * RAOF saw a 10 minute warning, at least.
[09:05] <amitk> njpatel: ** (<unknown>:2434): DEBUG: TrayChild (null): skype Skype
[09:05] <amitk> ** (<unknown>:2434): DEBUG: MaximizeIfBigEnough: Skype window size doesn't fit
[09:06] <njpatel> amitk, press Super+E and see if you can spot the tray in the desktop thumbnails that appear pleace
[09:07] <njpatel> amitk, I wonder if it's just hiding behind the panek
[09:07] <njpatel> and if it is, I've fixed that for today's release
[09:08] <amitk> njpatel: heh, you're right, I can see the green icon there
[09:08] <njpatel> amitk, heh, okay, just wait for todays updates, it should be fixed for you :)
[09:09] <amitk> njpatel: \o/ awesome
[09:16] <dholbach> @pilot in
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[09:17] <dholbach> hum
[09:17] <dholbach> topic a bit long, eh? :)
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[09:19] <dholbach> @pilot out
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[09:19] <dholbach> bah
[09:19] <dholbach> sorry
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[09:19] <dholbach> @pilot in
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[09:19] <dholbach> ok, I give up
[09:19] <dholbach> if you haven't noticed: I'm patch pilot
[09:20]  * amitk wonders who the patch pilot is today...
[09:20]  * dholbach strangles amitk passionately
[09:20] <ion> dholbach: We’re supposed to trust your word? The topic doesn’t agree.
[09:21] <amitk> lol @ dholbach
[09:21] <dholbach> . o O { hippies! }
[09:22] <udienz> dholbach, i'm uploading a new packages before FF but it's was rejected by archive-admin because technical problem (dep3). can i submit it again?
[09:22] <dholbach> udienz, you might have to get a FF exception for it - what is it?
[09:23] <udienz> dholbach, here http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/gkamus
[09:24] <udienz> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-archive/2011-February/039752.html and here is the reason
[09:24] <dholbach> udienz, I can give it another review, but you might want to have a chat with somebody in ~ubuntu-release about it first
[09:25] <dholbach> just to make sure
[09:25] <dholbach> thanks for all the pointers
[09:26] <udienz> dholbach, okay. thanks
[09:26] <dholbach> rock
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[10:49]  * pitti gives up on handling pre-applied patches and .pc in UDD branches; that's ridiculously error prone and fiddly
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[10:53] <Daviey> pitti, not to mention ugly diffs.
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[10:57] <Laney> pitti: do you recommend adding 'unapply-patches' to d/source/local-options when working in UDD then?
[10:58] <pitti> Laney: hm, I thought local-options would by definition not go into source packages?
[10:58] <pitti> and it would again introduce an inconsistency
[10:59] <YokoZar> Anyone else notice "oneiric" isn't even in Ubuntu's english dictionary?  It's got red squiggly lines underneath it as I type it here ;)
[10:59] <Laney> it doesn't go in the generated source package indeed
[10:59] <pitti> but I tried to apply two changes three times, and it always either failed to apply it right away, or mess up the .pc so that quilt got broken
[10:59] <Laney> from the man page: 'It can be useful to  store  a  preference tied to the maintainer or to the VCS repository where the source package is maintained.
[10:59] <pitti> Laney: and the .pc/ stuff and applied patches are already in the bzr branches, so I doublt that this would even help
[11:00] <pitti> Laney: did you try that?
[11:00] <pitti> Laney: I'm not sure what the auto-importer does -- wouldn't it just stomp on the changes and overwrite htem with what got uploaded?
[11:00] <Laney> it would help for subsequent uploads
[11:00] <Laney> I imagine you'd have to commit the initial patch removing .pc though
[11:01] <pitti> right, but as archive trumps bzr, the importer would usually overwrite it, or does it have special handling of this?
[11:01] <Laney> it'd be the same as normal UDD usage I guess
[11:01] <Laney> i.e. it gets stomped if someone doesn't usse UDD in the future
[11:01] <Laney> (just guessing)
[11:04] <Laney> I agree it's irritating behaviour though; maybe the importer could add it by default (or bzr-bd)
[11:04] <soren> YokoZar: For the longest time, "Ubuntu" wasn't in Ubuntu's dictionaries.
[11:05] <YokoZar> soren: to be fair, we did popularize the term ;)
[11:05] <soren> YokoZar: bug 93843
[11:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 93843 in mesa (Ubuntu Natty) "Broken TLS support in libGL.so" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93843
[11:05] <soren> Whoops.
[11:05] <soren> ?!?
[11:06] <soren> That *is* the right bug number.
[11:06] <soren> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aspell-en/+bug/93843
[11:06] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 93843 in aspell-en (Ubuntu) ""Ubuntu" and "Debian" are not in the dictionary" [Wishlist,Fix released]
[11:06] <soren> Err.... Who's in charge of ubottu?
[11:06] <soren> It seems to be on crack.
[11:06] <Hobbsee> ubuntu irc team
[11:06] <Hobbsee> or at least, they'll point in the right direction
[11:08] <soren> I seem to (indirectly) be a member of that team. :-/
[11:09] <Hobbsee> likely, for cloaks
[11:09] <Hobbsee> ubuntu ops team, more likely.  ask in #ubuntu-ops
[11:10] <soren> Hobbsee: Ta
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[12:35] <dpm> hi cjwatson, could you moderate the message I sent re: AppDeveloperWeek in ubuntu-devel when you've got a minute? thanks!
[13:12] <dholbach> @pilot out
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[13:52] <rcaskey> is there a way to prevent unity from auto-placing windows where they will cause the side bar to hide?
[14:11] <mterry> rcaskey, I think that's considered a bug, not a feature.  There's an LP bug about it somewhere
[14:12] <c2tarun> Daviey: ping
[14:13] <rcaskey> mterry, on the plus side I didn't _mean_ to upgrade to unity but compositing is not crashy now like it has been in every release for the last 3 years
[14:13] <mterry> \o/
[14:15] <Daviey> c2tarun, o/
[14:15] <c2tarun> Daviey: hi :) can you please look at bug 730653 debian fixed this, should I request for a sync now?
[14:15] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 730653 in alex4 (Ubuntu) "Package alex4-1.1-3 failed to build from source with "ld --as-needed" option" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/730653
[14:18] <c2tarun> Daviey: I just pulled the source code from debian and it failed to build on natty again, why so?
[14:20] <Daviey> c2tarun, Okay, doesn't look like it's yet been uploaded to Debian... The person commented that they have uploaded it to a holding area, mentors.debian.org - and is looking for someone to sponsor it into Debian.  We should wait for that to happen before doing anything.
[14:21] <Daviey> c2tarun, The package he uploaded to mentors is failing to build on natty?
[14:21] <c2tarun> Daviey: got, it, so how do I know that the package is uploaded in debian?
[14:22] <Daviey> c2tarun, The debian bug will have an update "We believe this has been fixed ..." similar to how our bugs gets closed on Launchpad.
[14:23] <Daviey> c2tarun, Not immediately, but also the Debian entry on the launchpad bug will be marked "Fixed Released"
[14:35] <pitti> is that just me, or do other people also get a "426 Transfer aborted.  Data connection closed." on dput? I tried on two different hosts now
[14:39] <c2tarun> pitti: yup I am also getting same error.
[14:41] <seb128> pitti, likely the launchpad update from this morning, did you check on #launchpad?
[14:43] <geser> pitti: janimo just asked the same question on #launchpad
[14:52] <pitti> hm, the dput actually worked
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[14:54] <janimo> pitti, same here
[14:54] <janimo> pitti I get warnings on my GPG key, not being certified or somesuch
[14:54] <janimo> LP folk say this may be the cause
[14:57] <pitti> dpm: btw, all natty and maverick langpacks are built now
[15:02] <abhinav-> ttx, bug 297675 . can I work on this ?
[15:03] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 297675 in tomcat6 (Ubuntu) "Eclipse can't find catalina.policy and bootstrap.jar where it expects them" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/297675
[15:08] <m4n1sh> abhinav-: is permission required to work?
[15:09] <m4n1sh> I just consult if someone is working on it
[15:09] <m4n1sh> attach the patch
[15:09] <abhinav-> m4n1sh, no its an old bug, no one ever worked on it. its worth working if only it will be useful :)
[15:09] <dpm> thanks pitti, I sent the call for testing as well https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-translators/2011-March/004496.html
[15:10] <m4n1sh> abhinav-: if the same version is present in supported series and upcoming then yes, it is useful
[15:10] <m4n1sh> series = versions
[15:11] <abhinav-> m4n1sh,  yes. the latest revisions have the same problem. Infact it has only worsen, eclipse now demands more files for its configuration which are not there
[15:12] <abhinav-> developers have to create symlinks for those files
[15:12] <m4n1sh> bad. just too bad
[15:12] <abhinav-> yeah. I am going to work on this right now :-)
[15:13] <m4n1sh> abhinav-: GO GO GO :)
[15:17] <ttx> abhinav-: GO GO GO :)
[15:17] <abhinav-> thanks :-)
[15:42] <jhunt_> cjwatson: fyi, I've updated lp:~jamesodhunt/ubuntu/natty/upstart/proposed-stage2.
[15:43] <ion> Stage 2 of what, btw?
[15:48] <jhunt_> ion: see bug 723846
[15:48] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 723846 in upstart (Ubuntu Natty) "Feature Freeze Exception request for Upstart in Natty" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723846
[15:49] <ion> Ah
[15:49] <ion> I’ve read that but i forgot about the stages.
[15:52] <YokoZar> pitti: poke
[15:52] <pitti> hi YokoZar
[15:52] <YokoZar> pitti: Just noticed you last touched branding-ubuntu...what do you think of the approach here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/branding-ubuntu/+bug/394093
[15:52] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 394093 in branding-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "branding-ubuntu should use config-package-dev" [Low,In progress]
[15:53] <YokoZar> I guess avoiding cdbs and manual entries in the rules file is a good thing
[15:53] <pitti> hm, no patch in the pacakge
[15:54] <pitti> YokoZar: the current 0.5 package is already quite simple, though; using dh now
[15:54] <YokoZar> Yeah, I'm inclined to just go from current and drop the one in the bug report
[15:54] <YokoZar> even though it was better than what existed at the time it was suggested ;)
[15:54] <pitti> simplifying the diversions would make sense, though
[15:55] <pitti> I don't know config-package-dev at all, though, so I can't say how good it is
[15:55] <pitti> needs a MIR first, though
[15:55] <YokoZar> me neither
[15:55] <YokoZar> I'll tell you one thing
[15:56] <YokoZar> I was trying his version and installed it with dpkg -i and somehow I got warnings about dpkg-diversions existing for the files in the package.  I managed to fix it by removing the package and then reinstalling it.
[15:56] <YokoZar> So somehow it failed in the upgrade case but not the uninstall->install case
[15:56] <YokoZar> and that makes no sense to me at all
[15:57]  * YokoZar has new artwork to put into branding-ubuntu
[15:57] <pitti> SpamapS: hm, the one time I need some -proposed uploads there aren't any..
[15:58] <pitti> YokoZar: that should certainly be investigated before switching to this; if you still have the output, you might send that to the bug report and let the reporter comment?
[15:58] <YokoZar> pitti: I'm just trying to figure out how it's even possible.  Does apt run different maintainer scripts for uninstall->install than it does on upgrade?
[15:58] <YokoZar> err dpkg rather
[15:59] <pitti> YokoZar: no, but on upgrade you'd have an already existing diversion while on a fresh install you don't
[15:59] <pitti> YokoZar: it does run the scripts with different arguments, though
[15:59] <YokoZar> So something went bad when there was a diversion from an earlier version of the package
[15:59] <pitti> "install" vs "upgrade" for $1, and the versino number for $2
[16:00] <YokoZar> I think I'll just put the new artwork into the current version of the package, see if it breaks, and if it doesn't not bother
[16:01] <YokoZar> we're probably already overengineering by just talking about it so much
[16:02] <SpamapS> pitti: If only somebody would sponsor my openssh MP's ;)
[16:02] <pitti> SpamapS: ... which you then couldn't approve :)
[16:02] <SpamapS> Right! An opportunity to demonstrate the checks and balances of the process.
[16:02]  * pitti goes to fix the broken queue count on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html
[16:03] <SpamapS> pitti: we can do it tomorrow at 16:00 UTC .. in fact that would probably be easier for me.
[16:03] <pitti> SpamapS: I have release team meeting
[16:03] <pitti> let's talk on IRC next week, when there actually are uploads
[16:05] <SpamapS> That sounds good. I'll ping you when I'm on since my TZ doesn't overlap much with yours. ;)
[16:16] <mdz> cjwatson, are you chairing TB today? if you can't, let me know and I will
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[16:30] <mvo> slangasek: new apt is uploaded (just fyi)
[16:31] <slangasek> mvo: saw the Debian bug closures, thanks!
[16:32] <mvo> thank you for your fixed
[16:33] <mvo> fixes
[16:33]  * mvo can't type today
[16:34] <mvo> eh, my dput just closed the connection on me, so no apt just yet :/
[16:36] <Sarvatt> mvo: yeah its been dying all morning, but it actually does complete
[16:38] <mvo> aha, ok
[16:38] <Sarvatt> it's spitting out an error when it was successful, your apt is up there. at least you didn't upload fglrx multiple times like tseliot :P
[16:39] <mvo> just apt three times :)
[16:39] <tseliot> yes, 68mb twice...
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[17:08] <pitti> mvo, cjwatson: with the latest apt upload, should we revert the casper hack to symlink /cdrom again?
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[17:18] <jelmer> jhunt_: hi
[17:18] <jhunt_> jelmer: hi
[17:18] <jelmer> jhunt_, I noticed you just updated the UDD wiki page - you can also use "bzr branch deb:packagename" to access a branch using the Vcs-Bzr URL
[17:19] <jhunt_> jelmer: thx. I'll add this. I am able to update wiki pages, but seemingly updating the gdm package approximates "impossible" without copious numbers of chickens a sharp knife, and a bagful of blue moons and flying pigs.
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[17:37] <jelmer> jhunt_: You should always be able to use deb:, even for Launchpad branches
[17:38] <jelmer> as bzr will happily work with http:// URLs to access Launchpad branches
[17:40] <pitti> jelmer: oh, I didn't know that one -- so that will use Vcs-Bzr if it exists, and fall back to lp:ubuntu/pkg if not?
[17:40] <pitti> jelmer: that's even better than debcheckout then
[17:41] <jelmer> pitti: Ah, no it won't fall back to lp:ubuntu/pkg; the wiki page says to manually translate Vcs-Bzr: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/... to lp: though, and that's not necessary
[17:42] <pitti> ah, so it's similar to debcheckout
[17:45] <jelmer> pitti: yeah, the main difference is that it will always checkout into a bzr format, even if Vcs-Git or Vcs-Svn is set.
[17:53] <ari-tczew> does change on Makefile needs run autoreconf?
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[17:59] <jhunt_> pitti, jelmer: I've updated the udd pages GettingTheSource and SeekingSponsorship, however from the gdm discussions, I think we need a bit of detail on the branch to push to *and* the (different) branch to raise the merge proposal on?
[18:00] <pitti> jhunt_: in general you should propose to merge into the branch you were branching from
[18:00] <jhunt_> pitti: ok, I'll add that now...
[18:00] <pitti> jhunt_: I wish bzr lp-propose-merge would actually work
[18:01] <pitti> locally it already knows the "from" branch, so it could set up things correctly; but it keeps failing for me
[18:02] <jelmer> pitti, how does it fail?
[18:03] <pitti> $ bzr lp-propose
[18:03] <pitti> bzr: ERROR: No reviewer specified
[18:03] <pitti> jelmer: that's difficulty #1 -- I don't know the default reviewer
[18:04] <YokoZar> mvo: slangasek: new apt...multiarch imminent?
[18:04] <ari-tczew> pitti: about sane-backends last upload. you did a change "debian/rules: Drop "acl" dependency." <- is it forwardable or rather ubuntu-specific?
[18:04] <pitti> jelmer: (that's a branch from lp:indicator-session)
[18:04] <pitti> jelmer: if I explicitly specify bzr lp-propose lp:indicator-session, then I get "bzr: ERROR: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/%2Bbranch/indicator-session/ is not registered on Launchpad"
[18:04] <jelmer> pitti, that bug is fixed
[18:04] <jelmer> the default reviewer I mean
[18:05] <pitti> (    push branch: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~pitti/indicator-session/extra-launcher-dir/
[18:05] <pitti>   parent branch: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/%2Bbranch/indicator-session/
[18:05] <pitti> so the branch does exist
[18:05] <pitti> jelmer: ah, cool
[18:05] <pitti> jelmer: (lagging, have meeting now)
[18:05] <jelmer> pitti, the second issue is a Launchpad issue - when it looks up a branch URL it doesn't support "%2B", only "~"
[18:06] <pitti> ah
[18:06] <jelmer> pitti, https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/704606
[18:06] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 704606 in Launchpad itself "launchpad.branches.getByUrl() doesn't support properly urlencoded URLs" [Medium,Triaged]
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[18:07] <jhunt_> pitti, jelmer: I've just added a new paragraph at the end of section 2 (Pushing to lp) here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/Documentation/SeekingSponsorship - could you sanity check at some point please?
[18:08] <pitti> jhunt_: I find "bzr lp-open" quite convenient -- it opens the LP page for your push branch
[18:09] <pitti> jhunt_: (if you don't specify one)
[18:09] <pitti> that's easier than xdg-open
[18:13] <slangasek> YokoZar: yes
[18:13] <YokoZar> slangasek: I feel like we should have a party
[18:17] <slangasek> YokoZar: a little early yet for the party, there's still work to do to make it useful :)
[18:33] <ari-tczew> pitti: about sane-backends last upload. you did a change "debian/rules: Drop "acl" dependency." <- is it forwardable or rather ubuntu-specific?
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[18:33] <pitti> ari-tczew: in principle yes, but the explicit setfacl call shoudl then be removed from the udev rule as well
[18:49] <Nafallo> hi. anyone want to help me boot natty? apparently the magic to account for / on btrfs disappeared (upgraded this morning)
[18:51]  * Nafallo goes to search launchpad for open bugs in the meantime
[18:52] <alkisg> Nafallo: maybe that's a question for #ubuntu+1
[18:53] <mvo> YokoZar: party! (a bit early, but it could be a multarch warmup party)
[18:54] <YokoZar> mvo: and by "join the party" we mean "start on the 1000+ packages we need multiarch aware"
[18:56] <ogra> can't party enough
[18:57] <didrocks> hum? am I the only one not being to push to hudson? (I just rebooted so no log of the chan :/)
[18:58] <didrocks> hum, sorry, not hudson, the buildds
[18:59] <didrocks> I read the thread about the new ftp authentication, should be linked of course :)
[19:02] <hyperair> hi. can someone from ubuntu-sru please handle https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bzr/+bug/659590?
[19:02] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 659590 in bzr (Ubuntu) "[SRU] dput sftp upload hangs after all files successfully uploaded" [Undecided,In progress]
[19:03] <hyperair> for some reason, my ftp uploads are screwing up at the end-point
[19:03] <hyperair> and my sftp uploads hang so i need to ^C the process
[19:03] <hyperair> which makes dput via sftp impossible to use for automated scripts.
[19:04] <didrocks> hyperair: same issue for me
[19:04] <didrocks> can't push unity
[19:04] <hyperair> didrocks: ftp screwing up?
[19:04] <didrocks> hyperair: yeah
[19:04] <hyperair> it seems to return a 426 error
[19:04] <hyperair> =\
[19:04] <hyperair> didrocks: for the time being you can upload via sftp
[19:04] <hyperair> and ^C when you're done
[19:04] <didrocks> let's try
[19:04] <hyperair> but your automated scripts are screwed
[19:09] <didrocks> ok, the uploads succeeded in fact, even if the .changes got an error and I don't have a .upload file then
[19:11] <Ampelbein> yes that's bug 732638
[19:11] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 732638 in Launchpad itself "Poppy FTP server returning "426 transfer aborted" errors for .changes files" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/732638
[19:12] <didrocks> as long as it uploads :)
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[19:28] <hyperair> heh
[19:31] <Nafallo> so ehrm. for some reason my btrfs didn't get mounted with the default subvolume. adding rootflags=subvol=@ to my grub command line fixed it. since I'm not sure about the root cause, do you guys still want me to file a bug about it?
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[19:39] <tkamppeter> Someone around who can help me on an upload problem?
[19:40] <nigelb> !anyone
[19:40] <ubottu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.
[19:40] <nigelb> ;)
[19:41] <tkamppeter> When uploading HPLIP I get the error "2k/3k426 Transfer aborted.  Data connection closed." on the .changes file. Does someone know what has happened?
[19:42] <micahg> tkamppeter: bug 732638
[19:42] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 732638 in Launchpad itself "Poppy FTP server returning "426 transfer aborted" errors for .changes files" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/732638
[19:42] <nigelb> the new ftp server giving trouble?
[19:42] <nigelb> gah, too slow
[19:43] <tkamppeter> nigelb, can I do something or have I to wait for the bug getting fixed?
[19:44] <nigelb> I think the good folks at #launchpad can give you the answer
[19:44] <nigelb> isn't it am already for lifeless...
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[19:50] <tkamppeter> nigelb, thanks, will be boring for whom does an update on his Natty in the next hours ...
[19:51] <nigelb> hehe
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[20:02] <kees> @pilot in
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[20:09] <tkamppeter> nigelb, will not get boring, uploads work anyway.
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[20:32] <nigelb> tkamppeter: yay :)
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[20:45] <hallyn> Is there a 'proper' automatic way to get m4/introspection.m4 (like libdbusmenu has), or does one just copy it from a package that has it?
[20:46] <hallyn> I'd have thought that autoreconf -fi would create it
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