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psusiso if a program uses egg_debug()... how do you enable those prints?01:04
qnixhi ppl02:37
qnixquestion, how do you version a beta release?02:37
qnix6.0.0-1~beta1 ?02:37
micahgqnix: no, the beta should be part of the upstream version 6.0.0~beta1-1 (for Debian)02:40
qnixmy tar.gz is named soft-6.0.0-beta1.tar.gz02:40
qnixkk, but I have to rename the tar.gz, right? since the name contains a - ?02:42
micahgqnix: right02:43
qnixcan it contain a ~?02:44
micahgqnix: yep, here's an example: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/4.0~b12+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu102:45
qnixmicahg: thank you.02:45
onehundredthirtyhi. could anyone please review uwsgi package (it's a WSGI server)? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/uwsgi04:08
c2tarunhow can I find the tracker for any problem? like a tracker for new version available, or a tracker for ftbfs or any other?04:28
lifelessc2tarun: what do you mean?04:29
c2tarunI mean there are certain trackers like, http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi  and http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/universe how many other are there?04:32
c2tarunlifeless: ^^04:32
lifelesshow big is the internet04:33
c2tarunlifeless: enormous ;)04:33
lifelessexactly04:34
c2tarunlifeless: hmmm.... so there is no place where I can get the link of such trackers?04:35
lifelessgoogle ?04:35
lifelessI don't really know what you mean04:35
c2tarunlifeless: nevermind :)04:35
lifelessI don't think there is a big list of reports for ubuntu or debian04:36
* c2tarun there should be one, this makes work a lot easier04:37
micahgc2tarun: this might be the closest thing we have http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/04:38
c2tarunmicahg: this is good :) thanks04:39
micahgc2tarun: here's another: http://harvest.ubuntu.com/04:39
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wejaegerHey, anyone up for reviewing l2tp-ipsec-vpn? It's a little applet to configure and manage L2TP IPsec VPN connections. I've just uploaded a new candidate to fix all problems about which micahg and mok0 complained. http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/l2tp-ipsec-vpn06:37
micahgwejaeger: there's no need to post that whole message every time, you ca\n just ask if someone can review the package06:39
c2tarunthere is package in natty archive named darksnow, this package include few log files and a patch inside the patch folder, but no series of 00list file, what are these log files for?07:43
dholbachgood morning07:48
elricLHello07:50
c2tarunthere is package in natty archive named darksnow, this package include few log files and a patch inside the patch folder, but no series of 00list file, what are these log files for?07:52
geserc2tarun: darksnow uses the "simple-patchsys" from cdbs which simply applies all patches it finds in debian/patches in alphabetical order (it doesn't need a 00list or series file)08:03
c2tarungeser: is there any manual or walkthrough for this patch system>08:04
geserc2tarun: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/PatchSystems08:06
geserc2tarun: and what log files? I don't see any in the webview of the packaging branch on LP08:07
c2tarungeser: these are the files in patches folder gcc -g -O2 -g -O2 -DUSE_TOOLTIP -pthread -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgio-2.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lcairo -lpango-1.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lrt -lglib-2.0   -pthread -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/08:08
c2taruninclude/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/include/libdrm   -DVERSION="\"0.6.1\"" darksnow.o interface.o config_files.o tooltips.o -o darksnow08:08
c2tarunoopps sorry08:08
c2tarungeser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/578222/08:08
c2tarungeser: what is a webview? where can i see a webview?08:11
geserc2tarun: sorry don't know, but my guess is that they come from the simple-patchsys08:11
c2tarungeser: ok, may be. thanks :)08:11
geserc2tarun: e.g. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/natty/darksnow/natty/files08:12
geseryou get there by following the "Code" tab on LP for a source package08:12
c2tarungeser: got it, strange there is nothing about these log files there.08:12
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dholbachdirecthex, do you think somebody can commit the debian/control portion of https://code.launchpad.net/~bhaveekdesai-gmail/ubuntu/maverick/boo/bug-729855/+merge/52735 in Debian? O:-)12:13
directhexdholbach, at some point. doesn't seem a high-urgency item for a whole release, but it can go into packaging git12:16
dholbachdirecthex, awesome12:16
* dholbach hugs directhex12:16
acarpinemorning omniscent people! :)12:27
acarpinefixing bug and using bzr, I don't understand when to use bzr branch lp:<pkgname> and when to use bzr branch lp:ubuntu/<pkgname>12:27
acarpineIs there any general rule that I can use?12:28
directhexdholbach, boo's still in svn, which is scarily retro, committed anyway. at some point Laney will volunteer to do a new upstream update && move to git, which can result in new packages12:30
dholbachdirecthex, excellent!12:30
geserlp:<pkgname> is the upstream branch of a programm, lp:ubuntu/<pkgname> is the auto-imported packaging branch of it (assuming a package exists for it) based on the uploads to the archive12:31
Ampelbeinacarpine: always use lp:ubuntu/pkgname (or ubuntu:pkgname), if you use lp:pkgname you get the PROJECT not the ubuntu package12:31
acarpineampelbein: But I thought sometimes can be useful makes change the upstream project...12:33
acarpineampelbein: I thought it depends on what i'm changing...12:34
Ampelbeinacarpine: generally, if you want to change something for ubuntu, you use lp:ubuntu/pkg or ubuntu:pkg as branch. you only branch the project if upstream actually uses launchpad for code development (most don't).12:36
acarpineampelbein: ok, so when a project use launchpad for code development I imagine is write in the launchpad page...correct?12:38
Ampelbeinacarpine: yes, it should be on the launchpad project page12:39
acarpineAmpelbein: Really tks, I will use your rule of thumb!12:42
* Laney eyes directhex 14:06
directhex?14:06
Laneyboo! it's a terrifying beast14:07
directhexnot too tricksy14:08
Laneydoes it want updating?14:09
ari-tczewhello14:10
kmdmHi guys, was hoping for some advice... I've made a package that uses cdbs to install a python module & associated daemon script... however when it tries to start the daemon from postinst the python-central triggers haven't run so the module fails to import into python, the daemon fails to start and thus the package install fails... Is there a standard workaround for this? - thanks :)16:52
tumbleweedkmdm: yeah, manually do the necessary byte-compilation in postinst rather than waiting for the trigger. Also python-central is deprecated, use dh_python216:58
kmdmtumbleweed: hm, thanks :) I'm only using whatever CDBS gives me so I'm assuming that'll be dh_python2 once that gets updated?17:08
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geserkmdm: any reason using cdbs and not debhelper?17:16
kmdmgeser: laziness? ;)17:21
ari-tczewcjwatson: merge-o-matic is working already, but I see no changes to lp:merge-o-matic. could you tell the secret how did you do it?17:41
debfxkklimonda: these qt buttons look quite native gtk to me: http://labs.qt.nokia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Screenshot-6.png17:57
RoAkSoAxzul: never mind found the error ;)20:07
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blueyedWhat do you think about including a recent SVN snapshot for (exuberant-)ctags for natty? There are a lot of bugfixes, and no new release in sight.. (I have pinged the author about this a few days ago without any reply)20:28
blueyedI have prepared one based on the debian version in my ppa.20:28
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micahgblueyed: if the snapshot is stable, why not?20:51
micahgblueyed: you're still need an FFe if there are new features20:51
micahg*you'll20:52
blueyedI have not checked the changelog in detail, just ran across bugs in the latest release several times in the last days.20:52
blueyedI have prepared a branch now, and will upload/ask-for-ffe it.20:52
blueyedgiven how essential ctags is, we should really push this.20:53
micahgblueyed: if the snapshot isn't stable, maybe backport some of the bugfixes20:53
blueyedok20:53
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blueyedI really hate FFe paperwork.. even when doing this for free, I would pay somebody 10€ to do it for me.. :/20:58
ari-tczewblueyed: write your views about bureaucracy to dholbach :)21:09
blueyedari-tczew: do you think he would do it for 10€?21:12
ari-tczewblueyed: dunno, he might be an expensive employee :)21:12
blueyedgreat. it fails to build, but without any error apart from the binary not being existent: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/66079994/exuberant-ctags_5.9%7Esvn20110310-0ubuntu1-i386-20110310-2211 - hints? I'm off for some time, but will come back later.21:22
ari-tczewinstall: cannot stat `ctags': No such file or directory21:23
ari-tczewIMO dirs or d/rules needs fixing.21:24
ari-tczewScottK: ping21:43
blueyedari-tczew: well. it seems like the binary "ctags" does not get build and then cannot get installed.21:44
blueyedlooks like the whole configure script is missing in the svn snapshot.21:47
Ampelbeinblueyed: yes, but there should be a autogen.sh file to work the necessary automake/conf/libtool/aclocal-black-magic for you21:48
blueyedAmpelbein: no, there is none. I have taken the tar ball from http://ctags.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/ctags/trunk/ (link at the bottom)21:50
arandAre wildcards availble in package.install files? Can I do excludes?21:56
Ampelbeinblueyed: autotools-dev has an example autogen that should work fine. it just runs the other tools in order21:57
ScottKari-tczew: Pong21:57
blueyedAmpelbein: shouldn't there something in the SVN source itself?22:01
Ampelbeinblueyed: that would be considered nice to have, but isn't strictly needed I guess.22:01
blueyedAmpelbein: I do not have much experience in autotools land. Will look around. thanks.22:02
blueyedAmpelbein: How would I integrate this into the build process?22:06
blueyedor should I maybe just pick configure and other missing files from the last releasE?22:06
Ampelbeinblueyed: the easiest way would be to run the autogen, make distclean, and repack that as orig.tar.gz22:08
blueyedAmpelbein: not so easy apparently. I am getting some help in #geany now - in case you want to join us.. ツ22:24
Ampelbeinlet me get that tarball and have a look ;-)22:25
Ampelbeinblueyed: do you have your packaging somewhere?22:30
blueyedAmpelbein: lp:~blueyed/ubuntu/natty/exuberant-ctags/upstream-snapshot - b4n in #geany could successfully build it now however.22:32
Ampelbeinblueyed: yeah, me too. I just wanted to get the packaging to see how well it integrates22:33
Ampelbeinswitching to geany22:33
blueyedin case anyone wants too look/vote for the ctags upstream freeze exception: see bug 73286023:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 732860 in exuberant-ctags (Ubuntu) "Please upgrade exuberant-ctags to 5.9 SVN snapshot" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73286023:24

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