[09:06] <Nafallo> https://mozilla-plugin.forge.funambol.org/ ← makes me sad. is this something any of you guys would be interested in contributing to?
[19:50] <micahg> fta: ping
[19:50] <fta> hi
[19:50] <micahg> hi
[19:50] <LLStarks> hai gaiz
[19:50] <micahg> there is apparently a small regression in Chromium 10, ogg audio controls don't update unless there's a mouseover event
[19:51] <LLStarks> lemme test
[19:51] <fta> hm, not part of my usual tests
[19:51] <fta> so it's possible, but i'm not aware of it
[19:51] <micahg> fta: we have a test suite in qa-regression-tools that we run
[19:52] <LLStarks> confirming on 11
[19:52] <LLStarks> btw, chromium icon still isn't updating system-wide
[19:53] <micahg> fta: try loading this file: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/qa-regression-testing/master/view/head:/data/patas_de_trapo.oga
[19:54] <fta> 'this is a binary file' from lp
[19:55] <LLStarks> download and then load into chromium
[19:55] <LLStarks> file:///home/eric/Downloads/patas_de_trapo.oga
[19:55] <LLStarks> like that
[19:55] <micahg> wfm on trynk
[19:55] <micahg> *trnk
[19:55] <micahg> *trunk
[19:56] <micahg> 11.0.699.0
[19:56] <micahg> LLStarks: which version are you running?
[19:56] <LLStarks> 11
[19:56] <LLStarks> menu response is slow
[19:56] <LLStarks> lemme try chrome 10
[19:57] <micahg> LLStarks: which 11?
[19:57] <LLStarks> latest on ucd
[19:57] <micahg> weird, I can't reproduce on that version
[19:57] <fta> hm, the ogg file wfm
[19:58] <micahg> fta: are you running trunk?
[19:58] <fta> oh, i'm using trunk
[19:58] <micahg> yeah
[19:58] <fta> i can't downgrade right now; i'm in the middle of something
[19:59] <micahg> fta: ok, do you think this is a serious enough regression to wait on?
[19:59] <fta> nope, minor. not enough to hold the long list of security fixes
[19:59] <LLStarks> micahg, i was only able to do it wikipedia i think
[20:00] <LLStarks> maybe i'm just having bug bias
[21:07] <LLStarks> micahg, what's the status of bindwood for natty?
[21:07] <micahg> LLStarks: I honestly don't know, chrisccoulson ^^
[21:07]  * micahg thinks it needs porting still
[21:08] <LLStarks> wasn't couchdb dumped though?
[21:16] <chrisccoulson> bindwood has already been ported
[21:16] <chrisccoulson> it just needs uploading
[21:23] <LLStarks> k. thx.
[21:29] <LLStarks> nice. tbird url opening is fixed.
[21:29] <LLStarks> still can't make tbird default though.
[21:33]  * micahg is still having issues with tbirl URLs
[21:36] <LLStarks> build id?
[21:37] <LLStarks> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16pre) Gecko/20110308 Lightning/1.0b2 Shredder/3.1.10pre
[21:41] <chrisccoulson> LLStarks, i seriously doubt that the URL opening is fixed, especially in 3.1
[21:41] <LLStarks> it works
[21:41] <chrisccoulson> seeing as fixing it requires implementing support for gio, which tbird 3.1 doesn't have, at all
[21:41] <LLStarks> no more %crap
[21:41] <chrisccoulson> it works by pure luck because of a stale entry in your gconf settings
[21:41] <LLStarks> ah
[21:41] <chrisccoulson> but it definitely *isn't* fixed
[21:41] <LLStarks> you're right
[21:42] <LLStarks> just tried another link
[21:42] <LLStarks> is this bug still milestone beta/rc?
[21:42] <chrisccoulson> yes
[21:43]  * micahg has it still opening firefox-4.0
[21:43] <chrisccoulson> i take it that's not your preferred browser? ;)
[21:43] <micahg> nope, and xdg-open opend in firefox
[21:44] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i bet that's because /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http/command still says firefox-4.0 ;)
[21:44] <chrisccoulson> that's the old gconf key, which is obsolete, and we need to make tbird not use any more
[21:45] <micahg> nope, set to firefox
[21:45] <chrisccoulson> oh, now that doesn't make sense
[21:46] <micahg> ah, found it, I set the mimetype to open in firefox-4.0 because I couldn't get it to open propely on maverick
[21:46] <micahg> now it works :)
[21:50] <fta> jcastro, didn't you say that the chromium launchers worked better now in unity?
[21:51] <jcastro> fta: the bug is fixed in chromium
[21:51] <jcastro> they export WM_CLASS now
[21:51] <fta> jcastro, i just rebooted, for me, it's far worse.
[21:51] <jcastro> we just need to fix BAMF to recognize it
[21:51] <jcastro> but jason was out sick yesterday and just got back so he probably hasn't look at it yet
[21:51] <fta> uh? isn't that WM_CLASS class in the desktop file?
[21:51] <jcastro> dunno, evmar and neil were discussing it over mail and I totally got lost
[21:52] <jcastro> fta: I'm going to annoy dbo every day from now on to fix the bamf thing
[21:52] <fta> and with the lp ftp disaster, i can't upload, so fixes in chromium will be delayed too
[21:52] <jcastro> http://i.imgur.com/qwHwY.png
[21:53] <jcastro> here, this will make you feel better
[21:53] <jcastro> :)
[21:53] <chrisccoulson> heh, i just saw that :)
[21:53] <chrisccoulson> nice, m_conley \o/
[21:54] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: :D
[21:54] <fta> what am i supposed to see?
[21:54] <jcastro> fta: new mail # on the launcher
[21:54] <m_conley> fta: I'm working on getting TB nice and snug with Unity
[21:54] <fta> oh, i use evo
[21:54] <m_conley> fta: k. :)
[21:55] <fta> but i'm annoyed by the (new?) tooltip that often sticks
[21:55] <fta> it's in the screenshot too
[21:55] <chrisccoulson> fta - the tooltip sticking annoyed me too, but i haven't noticed it for a couple of days
[21:56] <chrisccoulson> i thought it was fixed ;)
[21:56] <fta> i didn't reboot much this week, busy repairing a server that died during the week end
[21:57] <chrisccoulson> fta - so, kees has fixed bug 729839 now (i know that chrome has another issue affecting breakpad too though)
[21:57] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 729839 in linux "PR_SET_PTRACER does not work from a thread" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/729839
[21:58] <fta> m_conley, i wish evo was able to let me choose which folders i want to see notifications for
[21:58] <fta> is tb able to do that?
[21:59] <m_conley> fta: not yet. i'll add it to the list. :)
[21:59] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, feel free if you want me to help with anything. i feel like i've not given the tbird work much attention for a few weeks ;)
[21:59] <chrisccoulson> **feel free to ask me
[21:59] <chrisccoulson> urgh
[21:59]  * chrisccoulson should check before sending
[22:00] <chrisccoulson> :)
[22:00] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: it'd be nice to get messagingmenu-extension into the packages if possible...AMO doesn't let me do things like have versions for different arch's.
[22:00] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i'll do that tomorrow. that's a good end-of-the-week activity :)
[22:00] <fta> chrisccoulson, if you want a task, the evo thingy would make me jump of joy for hours ;)
[22:01] <micahg> chrisccoulson: uploading stuff that can break everything at 5PM on Friday?
[22:01] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yes, that's what i like!
[22:01] <chrisccoulson> heh
[22:01] <chrisccoulson> but, in this case, we're just talking about providing these tbird extensions in a PPA
[22:01] <micahg> oh, ok
[22:01] <micahg> there was a question on askubuntu.com about it
[22:02] <chrisccoulson> fta - i could look at it if i get some spare time, but my involvement with most desktop parts at the moment consists of fixing memory leaks and crashers
[22:02] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: a code review on messagingmenu-extension might be in order before you do that though.  I'd hate to bork anybody.  :p
[22:02] <chrisccoulson> sure, no problem
[22:03] <chrisccoulson> fta - so, if you have any dbusmenu related crashes, then you can ping me about those ;)
[22:04] <fta> hm, too bad, just wiped my /var/crash, i had some
[22:04] <fta> i'm no longer reporting them, none of the dozen crashes i reported moved
[22:06] <chrisccoulson> fta - hopefully, some of them are fixed now
[22:06] <chrisccoulson> we've fixed quite a lot the last couple of weeks
[22:07] <fta> well, just upgraded and rebooted, compiz crashed on startup
[22:07] <fta> just got nautilus, nothing else
[22:08] <fta> it's not new, weeks old bug
[22:21] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: ping
[22:21] <fta> chrisccoulson, was that ptracer bug relevant to breakpad?
[22:25] <chrisccoulson> fta - yeah, it broke breakpad if a crash happened off the main thread
[22:25] <chrisccoulson> hi m_conley
[22:26] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: hey - so the context menu options in the Launcher need to be set via the thunderbird.desktop file...an extension really has no access to this file.  So how would you suggest I add these context menu items with my extension?  I imagine we could probably manage something with the packages, by having the unitylauncher-extension alter the thunderbird.desktop file...
[22:27] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: but for users getting it from AMO, I gather they'd be out of luck
[22:27] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: unless I went the long way around, and registered dynamic menuitems in the Launcher
[22:28] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: so I guess my question is:  is there a way for AMO downloaders to get the context menu items without me having to dynamically construct them?  Is there a local user thunderbird.desktop file that my extension would have permission to alter?
[22:28] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, hmmm, i'm not too sure about that one. i guess you could have the extension modiy the system desktop file and store it in ~/.local/share/applications
[22:28] <chrisccoulson> i'd need to have a think about that though
[22:29] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: alright.  I imagine I'd want to do something similar for messagingmenu-extension, to get Thunderbird in there when it's not running.
[22:29] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: this is all candy for the extensions though.  When this stuff gets integrated, I imagine the Ubuntu Thunderbird package's thunderbird.desktop file will be updated
[22:29] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: I guess I just want the extensions to mimic the future behaviour as much as possible.  :p
[22:29] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, yeah. i did think about this when i was thinking about working on it, but i can't remember the conclusion i came to in the end ;)
[22:30] <chrisccoulson> i need to look at the wiki again to figure out how all this works
[22:30] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: I don't see anything wrong with munging about with ~/.local/share/applications - I wasn't aware that this was an option.  Sounds good to me.
[22:31] <chrisccoulson> note, that in thunderbird 3.3, you'll even be able to properly find the appropriate desktop file ;)
[22:31] <m_conley> whee! :)
[22:32] <chrisccoulson> you'll be able to use nsIGIOService::CreateAppFromCommand, using the command in the MOZ_APP_LAUNCHER environment variable
[22:32] <chrisccoulson> but it doesn't work just yet
[22:32] <chrisccoulson> and the nsIGIOMimeApp returned is basically a representation of the desktop file
[22:33] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: oh, that's handy
[22:33] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: but yeah, if it's not ready, I gather I should just do it by hand for now.
[22:34] <chrisccoulson> actually, i'm not sure if that would actually work. i don't think gio exposes the path of the desktop file
[22:35] <chrisccoulson> it exposes an ID, whatever that is :/
[22:35] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: well, it wouldn't really matter.  If it's a wrapper, I don't need to know the file.
[22:35] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: unless I misunderstood.  :)
[22:40] <fta> micahg, chrisccoulson: http://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/group/chromium-dev/browse_thread/thread/7b30efc17901bb97#
[22:42] <micahg> fta: that would be nice :), maybe if they could use more system libs :)
[22:43] <chrisccoulson> fta - nice!
[22:43] <chrisccoulson> heh, talking of system libs, i've switched the tbird 3.3 nightlies to use all bundled libs ;)
[22:43] <chrisccoulson> it might be useful to compare the sizes
[22:43] <micahg> chrisccoulson: why?
[22:44] <chrisccoulson> same reason as firefox really (and we want to use breakpad too)
[22:45] <chrisccoulson> brb, session restart
[22:49] <chrisccoulson> oh, nice. scrollwheel works in places now \o/
[22:50] <chrisccoulson> oh, the places have got some nice additions with todays updates
[22:51] <chrisccoulson> the "Apps available for download" section is pretty neat
[22:57] <fta> no scrollwheel in places here :(