| pleia2 | btw: http://ubuntu-news.org/2011/03/10/wiki-ubuntu-com-upgrade-update/ | 05:57 |
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| pleia2 | so maybe maybe in 2 weeks the wiki shall rise again | 05:57 |
| Sysi | so, have the default applications all been decided, and do we have any space on installation disk? i've talked about adding pavucontrol earlier already, bu i think not in correct place | 15:24 |
| charlie-tca | Good morning | 15:24 |
| charlie-tca | yes, default apps have been decided | 15:25 |
| Sysi | it's a bit weird that we have pulseaudio and only control to it is volume control in xfce4-mixer | 15:26 |
| Sysi | but of course people needing it can install it later | 15:26 |
| charlie-tca | It is also weird that I have never installed that and still get sound? | 15:27 |
| Sysi | well you have that sound control :P | 15:30 |
| Sysi | hum, does switching soundcard from xfce4-mixer work for pulseaudio? | 15:31 |
| charlie-tca | I seem to be in minority too, I think, when it comes to getting sound to work without pavucontrol | 15:31 |
| charlie-tca | I only have one soundcard | 15:31 |
| Sysi | i don't use pulseaudio at all | 15:31 |
| charlie-tca | I use it, because it allows sound from virtualbox machines and the hardware at the same time | 15:32 |
| charlie-tca | ochosi: from #xubunru | 17:04 |
| charlie-tca | <halaszvarig> I just finished a google chrome theme matching the new greybird xubuntu look: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/djhdibfheaidnhfnhhnmdngcmjpicpkn | 17:04 |
| ochosi | charlie-tca: hm, the guy isn't there anymore | 17:07 |
| ochosi | charlie-tca: looks nice, anyhow, greybird has a chrome/chromium style included, so no need for an external theme | 17:08 |
| charlie-tca | Just wanted to pass that on to you | 17:10 |
| charlie-tca | He came and announced and left | 17:10 |
| ochosi | right | 17:10 |
| ochosi | thanks | 17:10 |
| ochosi | well i guess in a way that's rather positive feedback :) | 17:11 |
| charlie-tca | yeah | 17:11 |
| charlie-tca | copy is flattery! | 17:11 |
| ochosi | i might not be able to attend tonight's meeting as i'm currently ill | 17:11 |
| ochosi | and i need to rest again soon | 17:11 |
| charlie-tca | Okay, take care of yourself | 17:12 |
| ochosi | i just wanted to check whether tonight the *final* decision about the wallpaper is taken | 17:12 |
| charlie-tca | hopefully, to give the artist time to change anything needed | 17:12 |
| ochosi | right | 17:12 |
| charlie-tca | but we will see | 17:12 |
| ochosi | ok, so let me quickly pass on my artwork news to you for the meeting | 17:12 |
| charlie-tca | Do we have any new logos to check out? | 17:13 |
| ochosi | i looked into that with knome, there's a problem with how the new panel handles the menu-icon | 17:13 |
| ochosi | i filed a bug about it upstream | 17:13 |
| ochosi | the new app-menu button is always scaled down to square size | 17:13 |
| ochosi | so there's not much room for improvement over the current icon | 17:14 |
| ochosi | i'd suggest we stick to it | 17:14 |
| knome | charlie-tca, i probably can't attend the meeting today, and my wallpaper proposal is not finished. is it a catastrophe? | 17:14 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 17:14 |
| knome | well, i'm going to submit what i have now. | 17:14 |
| charlie-tca | okay | 17:14 |
| charlie-tca | We gave what, 4 months or so notice this time? | 17:15 |
| charlie-tca | ochosi: okay | 17:15 |
| charlie-tca | what else do we have? | 17:15 |
| knome | we have what, this thing called life ? | 17:15 |
| charlie-tca | That's fine | 17:15 |
| ochosi | charlie-tca: in other artwork news: greybird is now fixed to theme gdm | 17:15 |
| ochosi | and i improved the xfce4-notification style so that it's more contrasty | 17:15 |
| ochosi | and easier to see | 17:15 |
| ochosi | also: there has been a new release of the elementary icons upstream as promised and that includes quite a few fixes for us | 17:16 |
| ochosi | i submitted many patches to them | 17:16 |
| charlie-tca | What did we decide on the Education icon? | 17:16 |
| ochosi | nothing just yet | 17:16 |
| ochosi | tbh i didn't get what the final point was in "freedesktop-icon-spec vs. freedesktop-menu-spec" | 17:17 |
| ochosi | but i can add an icon for it in elementaryXubuntu | 17:17 |
| charlie-tca | We only have about two weeks left now to make these things happen | 17:18 |
| ochosi | i think we might be able to slim that down a bit, since much of what it contained is now in upstream as well | 17:18 |
| ochosi | i know | 17:18 |
| ochosi | right, i guess that's about it for artwork atm | 17:20 |
| charlie-tca | okay, I will pass that stuff along | 17:20 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks | 17:20 |
| ochosi | thanks | 17:20 |
| ochosi | :) | 17:20 |
| charlie-tca | get some rest? | 17:20 |
| ochosi | btw, about the wallpapers, i'd be happy if it were something not just grey or blue | 17:21 |
| ochosi | i submitted to green photos myself that i like a lot | 17:21 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, me too. But I think we can ask for a change to them, too | 17:21 |
| ochosi | s/to/two | 17:21 |
| knome | http://www.flickr.com/photos/emunkki/5515380336/in/pool-uawt-7 | 17:21 |
| charlie-tca | non-photos can always be changed a bit, right? | 17:22 |
| ochosi | sure, also photos can be changed | 17:22 |
| ochosi | anyhow, to be honest there are quite a lot submissions that i don't like... | 17:22 |
| charlie-tca | I kind of like http://www.flickr.com/photos/57470087@N03/5297409903/in/pool-uawt-7 | 17:24 |
| charlie-tca | and the balloons | 17:24 |
| mr_pouit | Not sure I'll be on time for the meeting (I'll be either 20 min late or 20 min too early ;-). | 17:27 |
| charlie-tca | Well, that is a pickle | 17:27 |
| charlie-tca | hm, could be a real short meeting, now | 17:28 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: Did you have a choice or two on wallpaper? | 17:29 |
| mr_pouit | yeah, the one from knome, and possibly a second one, with a man flying with an umbrella | 17:32 |
| mr_pouit | (I don't have the url right now) | 17:32 |
| charlie-tca | I see the umbrella one | 17:34 |
| mr_pouit | and the packaging/dev report, nothing much: uploaded new greybird, fixed a few default settings' issues, and blacklisted a few indicators in xfce4-indicator (e.g. indicator-appmenu, we don't want it) | 17:34 |
| charlie-tca | Okay | 17:35 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks | 17:35 |
| mr_pouit | oh, also fixed a crash in xfce4-terminal, and patched xfce4-settings to solve the long standing bugs wrt sticky keys | 17:36 |
| charlie-tca | even better | 17:36 |
| mr_pouit | I have to leave now, maybe I'll make it on time ;-) | 17:37 |
| ochosi | ah, one note on the reboot/logout issue: it also happens with the logout-window that is called from the menu | 17:37 |
| ochosi | so it's really something independent | 17:37 |
| ochosi | not depending on the session-menu or any othre panel plugin | 17:37 |
| charlie-tca | but does it happen if you remove session menu completely, and use the action buttons ? | 17:37 |
| ochosi | it does | 17:38 |
| Sysi | happened to me | 17:38 |
| charlie-tca | All my restart/shutdown issues disappeared with session menu, and they were there no matter what else I did | 17:38 |
| charlie-tca | <mterry> Hello! I'm doing some work on indicator-datetime, and it's preference dialog now covers the same functionality as time-admin. It also has controls for indicator-datetime. So for Ubuntu the Product, I want to not have time-admin, but I'm assuming it would still be useful for xubuntu? Do you guys use indicator-datetime? | 17:40 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: ^ ^ | 17:40 |
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu community meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 10 minutes. Everyone is invited to attend. Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings | 17:51 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: aren't you an hour early? | 17:51 |
| ochosi | yeah, just thought the same :) | 17:51 |
| charlie-tca | That's wrong, isn't it? | 17:51 |
| charlie-tca | huh | 17:51 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: date -u | 17:51 |
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu community meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 70 minutes. Everyone is invited to attend. Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings | 17:52 |
| micahg | :) | 17:52 |
| charlie-tca | Sorry for the confusion | 17:52 |
| charlie-tca | So, If I held the meeting an hour early, can I make it a shorter meeting? | 17:57 |
| knome | no, we'll file an appeal to the community council :P | 17:58 |
| charlie-tca | Maybe you would make it if it is earlier? | 17:59 |
| charlie-tca | hm, appears Technical board gets the room first | 17:59 |
| knome | doesn't really matter. i shouldn't be here now either, but i'm forced to work with inkscape on windows 2000 | 17:59 |
| cody-somerville | knome, http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=4064 | 18:05 |
| knome | yeah, ETA 2 week starting next week.. in the canonical schedule that means it's ready 2014! | 18:07 |
| charlie-tca | looks like a good thing to me | 18:09 |
| cody-somerville | yea, lets be positive for once even if knome might be right :P | 18:09 |
| charlie-tca | knome might be wrong, and it will happen before natty releases, too! | 18:10 |
| cody-somerville | \o/ | 18:10 |
| knome | charlie-tca, can we move the wp issue to first on the agenda?? | 18:22 |
| charlie-tca | I can put it after the old business | 18:24 |
| knome | better than nothing, i guess | 18:27 |
| knome | A draft for Xubuntu Natty wallpaper including green and blue colors blurred so the wallpaper stays on the background. Designed to work well with the Greybird theme. | 18:32 |
| knome | errr | 18:32 |
| knome | http://www.flickr.com/photos/emunkki/5515540418/in/pool-uawt-7#/photos/emunkki/5515540418/in/pool-1546142@N20/ | 18:32 |
| charlie-tca | Why did that get under emunkki instead of in the pool as it's own submission? | 18:34 |
| charlie-tca | How many different places do we have submissions for this? | 18:35 |
| charlie-tca | I should be able to look at http://www.flickr.com/groups/uawt-7/pool/ and see every submitted wallpaper, it seems that is not possible? | 18:36 |
| * micahg is missing the title bar now | 18:37 | |
| knome | charlie-tca, it *is* submitted to the pool, just reload the page | 18:38 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you | 18:38 |
| knome | charlie-tca, that's just how flickr is. | 18:38 |
| knome | charlie-tca, it first shows the author when you go to any photo page | 18:39 |
| charlie-tca | oh, I am sorry | 18:39 |
| knome | np | 18:39 |
| charlie-tca | Heads up, I am proposing we put the top 5 wallpapers in backgrounds, for the users to have for the entire release | 18:42 |
| micahg | anyone lose their title bar in the latest updates? | 18:43 |
| charlie-tca | what title bar, in the windows? | 18:43 |
| micahg | yep | 18:43 |
| knome | charlie-tca, okay for me, but we still need a default ;] | 18:43 |
| micahg | I have the menus, but no title bar now | 18:43 |
| charlie-tca | micahg: Alt+F2, xfwm4 & | 18:43 |
| Sysi | & is not actually needed with xfrun4 | 18:44 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: ah, thanks, you know what happened | 18:44 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 18:44 |
| charlie-tca | probably had all windows that were open at shutdown piled on top of each other in workspace 1, too | 18:45 |
| micahg | was playing with unity 2d | 18:45 |
| charlie-tca | micahg: I get that everytime I restart with the "session menu" installed in the panel | 18:48 |
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu community meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 10 minutes. Everyone is invited to attend. Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings | 18:51 |
| charlie-tca | I got it right this time, didn't I? | 18:51 |
| knome | yup | 18:51 |
| knome | though it was 9 minutes | 18:51 |
| knome | ;) | 18:51 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 18:52 |
| charlie-tca | but I usually start one minute late | 18:52 |
| charlie-tca | :-) | 18:52 |
| knome | charlie-tca, suggestion: if we get to choose the five best, let's upload those and leave artists one week to finish off the designs and let's decide the default one week from now? | 19:32 |
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