[05:57] btw: http://ubuntu-news.org/2011/03/10/wiki-ubuntu-com-upgrade-update/ [05:57] so maybe maybe in 2 weeks the wiki shall rise again [15:24] so, have the default applications all been decided, and do we have any space on installation disk? i've talked about adding pavucontrol earlier already, bu i think not in correct place [15:24] Good morning [15:25] yes, default apps have been decided [15:26] it's a bit weird that we have pulseaudio and only control to it is volume control in xfce4-mixer [15:26] but of course people needing it can install it later [15:27] It is also weird that I have never installed that and still get sound? [15:30] well you have that sound control :P [15:31] hum, does switching soundcard from xfce4-mixer work for pulseaudio? [15:31] I seem to be in minority too, I think, when it comes to getting sound to work without pavucontrol [15:31] I only have one soundcard [15:31] i don't use pulseaudio at all [15:32] I use it, because it allows sound from virtualbox machines and the hardware at the same time [17:04] ochosi: from #xubunru [17:04] I just finished a google chrome theme matching the new greybird xubuntu look: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/djhdibfheaidnhfnhhnmdngcmjpicpkn [17:07] charlie-tca: hm, the guy isn't there anymore [17:08] charlie-tca: looks nice, anyhow, greybird has a chrome/chromium style included, so no need for an external theme [17:10] Just wanted to pass that on to you [17:10] He came and announced and left [17:10] right [17:10] thanks [17:11] well i guess in a way that's rather positive feedback :) [17:11] yeah [17:11] copy is flattery! [17:11] i might not be able to attend tonight's meeting as i'm currently ill [17:11] and i need to rest again soon [17:12] Okay, take care of yourself [17:12] i just wanted to check whether tonight the *final* decision about the wallpaper is taken [17:12] hopefully, to give the artist time to change anything needed [17:12] right [17:12] but we will see [17:12] ok, so let me quickly pass on my artwork news to you for the meeting [17:13] Do we have any new logos to check out? [17:13] i looked into that with knome, there's a problem with how the new panel handles the menu-icon [17:13] i filed a bug about it upstream [17:13] the new app-menu button is always scaled down to square size [17:14] so there's not much room for improvement over the current icon [17:14] i'd suggest we stick to it [17:14] charlie-tca, i probably can't attend the meeting today, and my wallpaper proposal is not finished. is it a catastrophe? [17:14] yes [17:14] well, i'm going to submit what i have now. [17:14] okay [17:15] We gave what, 4 months or so notice this time? [17:15] ochosi: okay [17:15] what else do we have? [17:15] we have what, this thing called life ? [17:15] That's fine [17:15] charlie-tca: in other artwork news: greybird is now fixed to theme gdm [17:15] and i improved the xfce4-notification style so that it's more contrasty [17:15] and easier to see [17:16] also: there has been a new release of the elementary icons upstream as promised and that includes quite a few fixes for us [17:16] i submitted many patches to them [17:16] What did we decide on the Education icon? [17:16] nothing just yet [17:17] tbh i didn't get what the final point was in "freedesktop-icon-spec vs. freedesktop-menu-spec" [17:17] but i can add an icon for it in elementaryXubuntu [17:18] We only have about two weeks left now to make these things happen [17:18] i think we might be able to slim that down a bit, since much of what it contained is now in upstream as well [17:18] i know [17:20] right, i guess that's about it for artwork atm [17:20] okay, I will pass that stuff along [17:20] Thanks [17:20] thanks [17:20] :) [17:20] get some rest? [17:21] btw, about the wallpapers, i'd be happy if it were something not just grey or blue [17:21] i submitted to green photos myself that i like a lot [17:21] Yeah, me too. But I think we can ask for a change to them, too [17:21] s/to/two [17:21] http://www.flickr.com/photos/emunkki/5515380336/in/pool-uawt-7 [17:22] non-photos can always be changed a bit, right? [17:22] sure, also photos can be changed [17:22] anyhow, to be honest there are quite a lot submissions that i don't like... [17:24] I kind of like http://www.flickr.com/photos/57470087@N03/5297409903/in/pool-uawt-7 [17:24] and the balloons [17:27] Not sure I'll be on time for the meeting (I'll be either 20 min late or 20 min too early ;-). [17:27] Well, that is a pickle [17:28] hm, could be a real short meeting, now [17:29] mr_pouit: Did you have a choice or two on wallpaper? [17:32] yeah, the one from knome, and possibly a second one, with a man flying with an umbrella [17:32] (I don't have the url right now) [17:34] I see the umbrella one [17:34] and the packaging/dev report, nothing much: uploaded new greybird, fixed a few default settings' issues, and blacklisted a few indicators in xfce4-indicator (e.g. indicator-appmenu, we don't want it) [17:35] Okay [17:35] Thanks [17:36] oh, also fixed a crash in xfce4-terminal, and patched xfce4-settings to solve the long standing bugs wrt sticky keys [17:36] even better [17:37] I have to leave now, maybe I'll make it on time ;-) [17:37] ah, one note on the reboot/logout issue: it also happens with the logout-window that is called from the menu [17:37] so it's really something independent [17:37] not depending on the session-menu or any othre panel plugin [17:37] but does it happen if you remove session menu completely, and use the action buttons ? [17:38] it does [17:38] happened to me [17:38] All my restart/shutdown issues disappeared with session menu, and they were there no matter what else I did [17:40] Hello! I'm doing some work on indicator-datetime, and it's preference dialog now covers the same functionality as time-admin. It also has controls for indicator-datetime. So for Ubuntu the Product, I want to not have time-admin, but I'm assuming it would still be useful for xubuntu? Do you guys use indicator-datetime? [17:40] mr_pouit: ^ ^ [17:51] Xubuntu community meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 10 minutes. Everyone is invited to attend. Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings [17:51] charlie-tca: aren't you an hour early? [17:51] yeah, just thought the same :) [17:51] That's wrong, isn't it? [17:51] huh [17:51] charlie-tca: date -u [17:52] Xubuntu community meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 70 minutes. Everyone is invited to attend. Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings [17:52] :) [17:52] Sorry for the confusion [17:57] So, If I held the meeting an hour early, can I make it a shorter meeting? [17:58] no, we'll file an appeal to the community council :P [17:59] Maybe you would make it if it is earlier? [17:59] hm, appears Technical board gets the room first [17:59] doesn't really matter. i shouldn't be here now either, but i'm forced to work with inkscape on windows 2000 [18:05] knome, http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=4064 [18:07] yeah, ETA 2 week starting next week.. in the canonical schedule that means it's ready 2014! [18:09] looks like a good thing to me [18:09] yea, lets be positive for once even if knome might be right :P [18:10] knome might be wrong, and it will happen before natty releases, too! [18:10] \o/ [18:22] charlie-tca, can we move the wp issue to first on the agenda?? [18:24] I can put it after the old business [18:27] better than nothing, i guess [18:32] A draft for Xubuntu Natty wallpaper including green and blue colors blurred so the wallpaper stays on the background. Designed to work well with the Greybird theme. [18:32] errr [18:32] http://www.flickr.com/photos/emunkki/5515540418/in/pool-uawt-7#/photos/emunkki/5515540418/in/pool-1546142@N20/ [18:34] Why did that get under emunkki instead of in the pool as it's own submission? [18:35] How many different places do we have submissions for this? [18:36] I should be able to look at http://www.flickr.com/groups/uawt-7/pool/ and see every submitted wallpaper, it seems that is not possible? [18:37] * micahg is missing the title bar now [18:38] charlie-tca, it *is* submitted to the pool, just reload the page [18:38] Thank you [18:38] charlie-tca, that's just how flickr is. [18:39] charlie-tca, it first shows the author when you go to any photo page [18:39] oh, I am sorry [18:39] np [18:42] Heads up, I am proposing we put the top 5 wallpapers in backgrounds, for the users to have for the entire release [18:43] anyone lose their title bar in the latest updates? [18:43] what title bar, in the windows? [18:43] yep [18:43] charlie-tca, okay for me, but we still need a default ;] [18:43] I have the menus, but no title bar now [18:43] micahg: Alt+F2, xfwm4 & [18:44] & is not actually needed with xfrun4 [18:44] charlie-tca: ah, thanks, you know what happened [18:44] yup [18:45] probably had all windows that were open at shutdown piled on top of each other in workspace 1, too [18:45] was playing with unity 2d [18:48] micahg: I get that everytime I restart with the "session menu" installed in the panel [18:51] Xubuntu community meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 10 minutes. Everyone is invited to attend. Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings [18:51] I got it right this time, didn't I? [18:51] yup [18:51] though it was 9 minutes [18:51] ;) [18:52] yup [18:52] but I usually start one minute late [18:52] :-) [19:32] charlie-tca, suggestion: if we get to choose the five best, let's upload those and leave artists one week to finish off the designs and let's decide the default one week from now?