[00:20] <dao> hi
[00:20] <dao> i'm just switching to xubuntu :D
[00:27] <dao> hei cracks?!?
[02:18] <beefsalad> anyone else having issues with FF/flash/youtube in xubuntu 10.04?
[02:18] <beefsalad> any time I play a 2nd video it takes out FF
[12:17] <jordan3456> hello?
[12:18] <lighta> hi
[12:19] <jordan3456> could anyone here point me to a good website for setting up an ati card _without_ having to use xorg?
[12:20] <jordan3456> I did it in gnome and now I forget how I did it
[12:22] <Sysi> 5000-series?
[12:22] <jordan3456> oh no, 9200 if I remember.  I'm on another machine now.
[12:23] <Sysi> if it's old it should work as well as possible by default
[12:23] <jordan3456> when running gnome I used the opensource driver, not the ati driver
[12:23] <Sysi> shouldn't need setting up
[12:24] <jordan3456> don't know.  Under the "display" option in settings xubuntu only shows one monitor.  xrandr shows two.
[12:24] <Sysi> use arandr if you want GUI
[12:26] <jordan3456> okay.  installed whatever arandr version is in the repository.
[12:27] <jordan3456> will arandr let me assign one monitor to the right and one to the left, as if I were manually entering the values into xorg?
[12:33] <Sysi> yes
[12:34] <jordan3456> excellent.  Let me give that a try.  I'll do anything to avoid xorg.
[12:35] <Sysi> i guess you mean xorg.conf
[12:35] <jordan3456> you bet. terrible stuff.  I'm glad that it's not really necessary anymore.
[12:35] <Sysi> wayland is coming
[12:36] <jordan3456> y'know, I'm not sure if I want to run wayland.
[12:36] <jordan3456> most of my computers are too old for that
[12:37] <jordan3456> I can barely run gnome on my 1 ghz/1gb ram machine.  this laptop is 64-bit, but I still run 32 bit kernel and xubuntu on it
[12:38] <Sysi> i ran 32bit xubuntu for year even after gettin 4GB ram, recently updated to 64
[12:40] <jordan3456> this machine is 4gb ram also.  I don't play games, so I don't need a big computer.  lxde is too buggy for me.
[12:40] <jordan3456> but even that would be okay.
[12:40] <Sysi> i like xfce:s preferences
[12:41] <jordan3456> that, and lxde doesn't have an easy, one click way to make launchers.  Rather one has to use ln or make desktop files.  lxde isn't ready for prime time.
[12:42] <jordan3456> anyway, thanks for the help.
[12:42] <Sysi> np
[13:36] <alx_> Hi all
[13:37] <alx_> can someone give me some help I am new to linux
[13:40] <TheSheep> !hi
[15:06] <skinny> greetings
[15:07] <skinny> if anyone has some time I need some help with powerpoint in Xubuntu everything works but the embedded videos are stalled or grey
[15:07] <skinny> if anyone has some time I need some help with powerpoint in Xubuntu everything works but the embedded videos are stalled or grey
[16:30] <mekulot> ilove ubuntu!!!!
[16:40] <TheSheep> it will pass
[16:41] <TheSheep> skinny: I'd check if you have all the necessary codecs
[16:59] <halaszvarig> hey all
[17:00] <halaszvarig> I just finished a google chrome theme matching the new greybird xubuntu look: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/djhdibfheaidnhfnhhnmdngcmjpicpkn
[17:00] <halaszvarig> spread it if you like :)
[17:39] <mterry> Hello!  I'm doing some work on indicator-datetime, and it's preference dialog now covers the same functionality as time-admin.  It also has controls for indicator-datetime.  So for Ubuntu the Product, I want to not have time-admin, but I'm assuming it would still be useful for xubuntu?  Do you guys use indicator-datetime?
[17:40] <charlie-tca> better asked in #xubuntu-devel, where I have copied that too
[17:41] <ochosi> mterry: it's not used by default atm, but generally indicator-support is there by default now
[17:41] <mterry> ochosi, ok.  I'm trying to decide whether to split time-admin out to a separate package or just get rid of it.  Sounds like you guys aren't requiring it by itself
[17:42] <charlie-tca> If the user chooses to remove indicators, will they still have time functions?
[17:42] <mterry> oh wait, you meant indicator-datetime isn't used by default
[17:42] <ochosi> yes
[17:42] <ochosi> xfce4-panel has a few time-plugins itself
[17:42] <ochosi> so we're using that atm
[17:42] <mterry> charlie-tca, the preference dialog is part of the indicator-datetime package right now.  depends how you remove indicators
[17:42] <ochosi> tbh i haven't tried the datetime-indicator in natty
[17:42] <mterry> ochosi, ok, so you don't even use time-admin right now?
[17:43] <mterry> "you" = "xubuntu"
[17:43] <ochosi> mterry: atm you can only remove indicators from the panel by uninstalling them, the plugin isn't very advanced yet
[17:43] <mterry> ochosi, well, indicator-datetime-preferences actually has a checkbox for showing the clock or not
[17:43] <ochosi> ok
[17:44] <ochosi> mterry: well give me 5min and i'll reboot to my natty testinstall
[17:44] <ochosi> brb
[17:44] <mterry> ochosi, heh, well, that preference doesn't work right now... but you'll get the idea.  i'm working on that right now
[17:46] <ochosi> mterry: the time-admin is installed by default
[17:46] <ochosi> it's in our menu too
[17:46] <mterry> ochosi, indicator-datetime is in the menu or the gnome clock is?
[17:46] <ochosi> neither, xfce4-clock plugin is ;)
[17:47] <mterry> ochosi, :)  OK.  So...  the indicator-datetime bits of the preference dialog would not be appropriate for xubuntu then
[17:47] <ochosi> yep i guess that's the conclusion
[17:47] <ochosi> ok the clock seems to work ok
[17:47] <ochosi> i mean indicator-datetime
[17:48] <mterry> ochosi, so perhaps I'll just split it out for safety's sake, and a seeding change would be needed to add it back in?  unless you guys decide you love indicator-datetime, but since we're post FF, I guess not
[17:48] <ochosi> yeah, possibly we can't add it anymore, don't know, that's something we'd have to discuss
[17:49] <ochosi> but thanks for the heads-up, we might well look into that for the next cycle
[17:49] <ochosi> indicators were introduced quite late this cycle, you know
[17:49] <mterry> ochosi, OK.  They were added quite late to xubuntu?
[17:49] <ochosi> mterry: yes, the support was kinda broken before
[17:50] <mterry> oh well neat that it's working now.  I didn't know they had problems.  I'm guilty of not paying close attention to xubuntu
[17:50] <ochosi> :)
[17:50] <mterry> despite working with cody-somerville sometimes  :)
[17:50] <ochosi> sry mterry, g2g now
[17:50] <mterry> k, thanks!
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[19:40] <skinny> thanks Sheep>>>>thanks  how to check codecs  I thought I updated these with a sudo command   I have VLC installed too and just uninstalled wine still no luck
[19:41] <TheSheep> !codecs
[19:41] <TheSheep> skinny: this should get you started
[19:41] <TheSheep> skinny: please use the public channel, this way others can learn too
[19:42] <skinny> okdokey
[19:44] <skinny> hmmm apt-gets  I think i tried this but will try again and report back
[19:51] <skinny> well it installed but has no effect
[19:51] <skinny> perhaps a reboot?
[19:52] <skinny> it must be a open office thing since the videos play fine in vlc and parole
[19:52] <skinny> suggestions>
[19:58] <beefsalad> whats the issue?
[19:58] <beefsalad> too much crap in my buffer to try and pick out the conversation
[20:01] <skinny> i have issue playing video in powerpoint
[20:01] <skinny> they just appear as greyed out or one frame of paused video
[20:02] <skinny> i installed the retricted codec pkg no change unless I need to reboot>?
[20:03] <skinny> other than that i like xubu  I am new to linux
[20:03] <skinny> and of course ppt is the ONE thing I really need to do with this notebook
[20:04] <skinny> i havent used irc since the freakin 90s  I am having flashbacks
[20:04] <skinny> good times...
[20:11] <beefsalad> powerpoint....
[20:11] <TheSheep> skinny: sorry, was distracted
[20:11] <TheSheep> skinny: no idea what else could be wrong
[20:11] <beefsalad> DRM'ed video?
[20:12] <TheSheep> skinny: btw, it's probably openoffice's impress, not powerpoint
[20:12] <skinny> i am asking on #go-oo thanks
[20:13] <skinny> i say pp but i am using 00   but there is also a way i have run it via pptview.exe  a standalone
[20:15] <skinny> no video is not drm   although I couldnt play netflix dvd for awhile   I think I can only still play my own burned dvds   but thats another issue   netflix dvds are almost history anyway  :-)
[20:15] <skinny> what about rebooting after that restricetd codecs install  should i try that  I have yet to
[20:17] <TheSheep> skinny: you shouldn't need to do that
[20:17] <TheSheep> skinny: I doubt it would help
[20:19] <skinny> cool beans
[20:19] <skinny> peace out