/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/03/11/#kubuntu-devel.txt

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Riddell"Implement a new build debian/rules build engine (dubbed dhmk) for Qt/KDE" oh just what the world needs, another debian package build system03:40
macohaha03:40
macowhere'd you read that from?03:40
Riddelljust committed to pkg-kde-tools in debian03:41
nigelbI'm thinking I should fall sick for work and just head to the conf.03:59
* nigelb ponders03:59
valoriedo it, and invoke your cloaking mechanism so the boss can't find you!04:02
nigelbhaha04:03
nigelbI might be stupid and blog or tweet04:03
nigelbso weary04:03
nigelband the boss knows I wnated to go to conf.kde.in so he might turn up there.04:03
valoriehe won't budge, and let you go for even one day?04:03
nigelbNo.04:04
nigelbAt least I met all these folks for dinner twice.04:04
* valorie calls nigelb's boss all kinds of nasty things04:04
nigelbPre-conf party and also last night.04:04
nigelbI've been calling my boss all sorts of nasty things lately.04:04
macoand soon you will call him "ex-boss"!04:05
Daskreechsounds like grounds to look for a new job04:05
valorieduct-tape him to his chair and go!04:05
nigelbmaco: yes, light at the end of the tunnel04:05
nigelbDaskreech: I did, I got.  A few more weeks left ;)04:05
Daskreech;-)04:06
Daskreechcamp KDE! :)04:06
nigelbI now have project neon stickers on my laptop04:06
nigelbI hope there's at least one Kubuntu sticker with Riddell by evening.04:06
valoriejealousy!04:06
nigelbI'm printing Debian stickers for the DD :D04:06
nigelbok, sigh, work time.04:08
valorie{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}} to nigelb04:08
* Daskreech hugs valorie to keep up his schedule04:14
macoDaskreech: you have a hugging schedule?04:14
Daskreech:)04:14
valorie{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}} back04:18
Riddellnigelb: tazz did aquire kubuntu stickers04:20
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shadeslayernigelb: oh nice.04:21
shadeslayernigelb: /me wants04:21
Daskreechhttp://adainitiative.org/projects/census/04:21
tazzshadeslayer, when is your talk ?04:29
Riddelltazz: his is the last one before closing talk04:33
tazzah... the 2nd last one... pressure on shadeslayer... :p04:33
tazzbuild-up for the final keynote for the last talk of conf.kde.in04:34
shadeslayertazz: yeah .... and i don't feel so good as well04:41
tazzshadeslayer, stage fright ?04:42
shadeslayertazz: no... bengaluru food doesn't agree with me04:42
tazzhmm04:43
tazzshadeslayer, eat minimum till your talk.04:43
shadeslayeryeah04:43
shadeslayeri had like half a bread this morning04:43
shadeslayers/bread/bread piece04:43
nigelbRiddell: yes, I know04:46
nigelbshadeslayer: kart_ hasn't mailed them to me yet04:47
nigelbshadeslayer: can poke when ou see him?04:47
shadeslayersure04:47
nigelbvalorie: thanks04:49
nigelbshadeslayer: right.  food doesn't agree with you.04:53
shadeslayernigelb: seriously ....04:53
nigelbok, no comments at the momment :P04:54
nigelbshadeslayer: how much time did it take to print?05:19
ScottKaway05:19
nigelbdarn05:20
* nigelb texts05:21
ScottKOr not.05:21
ScottKapachelogger: The workspace build finished.  The log is named log.workspace and I put it in your home directory on the arm box.  The actual .debs are around too if you need them.05:22
valoriehttp://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0001xgp.html06:39
valorie8.8 in HONSHU06:39
* valorie is hoping persia is nowhere near06:40
nigelbpersia is .jp, but I hope there isn't a tsunami.06:45
valoriethere is, actually06:46
valoriehonshu is japan06:46
nigelboh, ouch :(06:46
nigelbvalorie: jono just said he's okay :)07:10
valoriethanks, nigelb07:10
valorielots of others are not07:11
valorie8.8 is HUGE07:11
nigelbyeah :(07:11
bambeemorning08:37
Riddellbambee: so oyu got ubuntu running on your smartbook thing?09:22
bambeeRiddell: yup, maverick09:23
bambeeI've many things to fix09:23
bambeebut It works09:23
bambeeRiddell: actually this is ubuntu-netbook with unity, but I will install kubuntu-netbook09:24
bambeeand test with kde :D09:24
Riddellbambee: which ARM image does it use?09:27
bambeeRiddell: an nvidia tegra 2 => cortexA9-based09:28
bambeeRiddell: at the last UDS, canonical did not say that they  would try to discuss with nvidia about the tegra on linux ?09:29
bambee(I can be wrong...)09:29
bambeeRiddell: ohh sorry you asked me about image, I use an image ported by the community and not an official image09:30
bambeehowever I could test with the omap4 image... except the kernel it should work...09:31
c2tarunRiddell: ping09:33
shadeslayerc2tarun: he has a talk in a few minutes, so don't think he is around09:33
c2tarunshadeslayer: ok, sure.09:34
c2tarunshadeslayer: actually I just saw his reply so I pinged09:34
c2tarunRiddell: when you come around please take a look at bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26757709:35
ubottuError: Error getting KDE bug #267577: NotPermitted09:35
bambeeRiddell: good luck for your talk by the way ;)09:36
Riddellbambee: 09:39
bambee?09:39
Riddellbambee: I don't know about nvidia I'm afraid09:40
Riddellc2tarun: sorry no bandwidth for that sort of thing, very limited internet at conf.kde.in09:40
shadeslayeraye09:41
shadeslayerRiddell: but ... but  ... i'm getting 200 KBps09:41
valoriebreak a leg, Riddell!09:42
c2tarunRiddell: its a bug, which needs your approval. whenever you get the bandwidth please take a look.09:42
Riddellc2tarun: why do you need to be on the kde-packagers mailing list?09:44
c2tarunRiddell: yofel suggested me to join that list for notifications related to packaging work for KDE.09:45
shadeslayerRiddell: where are you btw ?09:47
c2tarunRiddell: will you approve?09:52
Riddellhhhhhh09:54
c2tarunRiddell: what does this mean? :(09:55
Riddellit means I keep being dropped from the internet09:55
c2tarunRiddell: oh.... what about that bug?09:56
Riddellc2tarun: I think I'd prefer to see you do some more KDE SC packaging before being on the list09:57
c2tarunok09:58
c2tarunRiddell: where can I get more work about KDE SC packaging?09:58
Riddellit's only for KDE SC pre-releases and security updates not anything else and it important to keep it closed to prevent security leaks09:58
Riddellc2tarun: SC releases are only once a month so there's nothing happening just now09:58
Riddellc2tarun: but I think we are behind on koffice releases?09:59
Riddellcould you check that?09:59
c2tarunRiddell: sure, where can I get the link?10:00
Riddellkoffice.org :)10:00
Riddelland launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/koffice10:00
c2tarunRiddell: I didn't find any work on koffice.org can you please tell where?10:38
debfxapachelogger: how do I use the kde langpack foo for a python package?10:41
c2tarunRiddell seems to be busy, he told me that we are behind on koffice releases, can anyone please tell me where can I find what is left for release?10:46
debfxapachelogger: can I just include /usr/lib/kubuntu-desktop-i18n/debhelper/kubuntu.mk? it uses dh7 rules10:47
debfxc2tarun: http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/koffice-2.3.310:49
c2tarundebfx: I think its for downloading koffice.10:50
debfxc2tarun: yes, didn't you want to package the latest koffice release?10:51
c2tarundebfx: yup but I thought it was some packages which is required by koffice, are you saying whole koffice needs packaging?10:53
debfxyes10:53
c2tarundebfx: ok, thanks I'll try it :)10:53
Riddellc2tarun: see at launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/koffice it says we have 2.3.110:55
Riddelland tomas just said that 2.3.3 exists10:55
Riddellso we are behind10:56
c2tarunRiddell: oh got it :)10:56
c2tarunI'll do for 2.3.3 thanks :)10:56
apacheloggerdebfx: yes12:05
apacheloggerdebfx: that is if you have a proper Messages.sh12:05
apacheloggeras the logic how extraction happens is in there12:05
debfxapachelogger: I don't have a Messages.sh12:06
debfxwhat does it need to extract?12:08
* debfx is totally unfamiliar with the translation stuff12:08
apacheloggerdebfx: take a look at the printer applet thing in kdeutils12:10
debfxapachelogger: it doesn't use the kde infrastructure for translations12:10
apacheloggereh?12:11
apacheloggerwhat is it using then?12:11
apacheloggerdebfx: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdeutils/printer-applet/Messages.sh?view=markup12:13
debfxapachelogger: i'm talking about the synaptiks package12:14
debfxit already has a pre-generated .pot file12:14
apacheloggerdebfx: you still need a messages.sh :P12:15
apacheloggerOTOH12:16
apacheloggerwhy not use tht simply?12:16
debfxI still need to process the desktop file, right?12:19
apacheloggerwell12:20
apacheloggerdebfx: from a technical POV we should generate a pot using the process described12:21
apacheloggerso that it is definitely covering the current source base12:21
apacheloggerbut import into launchpad and stuff is all handled by special magic packages that do not require any help to work their magic12:22
apacheloggerScottK: thanks for building12:22
apacheloggerI think we can upload a new workspace12:22
ScottKapachelogger: You're welcome.12:22
apacheloggerI don't get any linkage against libGL12:22
ScottKapachelogger: Do we need to get Qt built with gcc4.5 first?12:22
apacheloggerin neither applets nor dataengines12:23
debfxok, so I just add a Messages.sh and include that makefile12:23
apacheloggerScottK: no12:23
ScottKOK12:23
apacheloggerScottK: did someone already start QAing that btw?12:23
ScottKNot AFAIK.12:23
apacheloggerdebfx: also push that upstream plz, I wonder how upstream generated the pot without that actually :O12:23
apacheloggerdebfx: are there pos too?12:23
apacheloggerScottK: we should get someone from linaro to do it ^^12:24
ScottKThey may have.12:24
* apachelogger has a major hangover12:24
debfxapachelogger: yes, one12:25
apacheloggerkubotu: order bloody mary12:25
* kubotu adds a dashes of Worcestershire Sauce, Tabasco, salt and pepper into a highball glass, pours 4.5 cl Vodka, 9 cl Tomato juice, 1.5 cl Lemon juice and ice cubes in the highball, stirs gently, garnishes with Celery Salt and lemon wedge and slides the cocktail down the bar to apachelogger. VoilĂ  your Bloody Mary.... muhahahahah :P12:25
apacheloggerdebfx: odd enough12:25
apacheloggerdebfx: well, there is a kde techbase page explaining all the l10n mumbo jumbo I blieve12:25
ScottKnixternal: Shut down.12:25
ScottKThanks again.12:25
* apachelogger sips from his bloody mary and wonders about things12:26
debfxapachelogger: who controls in which language pack the pos end up?12:27
apacheloggerdebfx: dpm I believe, or at least he knows who does12:28
debfxaha, looks like it hasn't been imported at all: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/synaptiks/+imports12:28
apacheloggerah12:28
apacheloggerthere are more pos :P12:28
debfxwell upstream tarball only contains de.po12:28
apacheloggeruh :O12:29
dpmdebfx, apachelogger, is that a new module? If so, I can just approve it now. Otherwise we'll have to have a look why it wasn't imported automatically (perhaps upstream module rename, or shifting things around...)12:29
debfxdpm: yes, it's new12:29
apacheloggerdpm: did we get a new tar recently?12:31
apacheloggereh12:31
apacheloggerdebfx: 12:31
apacheloggersry12:31
debfxhmm it isn't really new12:31
debfxit's new in main though12:31
dpmdebfx, ok, approved it. From now on translations should be imported automatically. If we're lucky, they will be imported before 15:00 today and make it to this weekend's language pack12:31
dpmif not, next week's12:31
apacheloggerdpm: thank you :)12:32
dpmno worries :)12:32
apacheloggerdebfx: oh, ah, 0.4 had translations 0.5 does not12:32
apacheloggerI suggest threatening upstream to get beatins' or something :P12:33
apacheloggerthat is no godo thing to strip all translations on a new release12:33
apacheloggeror maybe they just messed up release tarballing12:33
debfxI guess the old translations don't cover most of the strings in 0.512:34
dpmhey kubuntu devs, here's for something else - can you think of any cool topics to cover related to Kubuntu/KDE/Qt technologies to build apps on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek/?12:34
debfxapachelogger: looks like it has its own script to generate the pot file: https://github.com/lunaryorn/synaptiks/blob/master/synaptiks/setup/l10n.py12:46
apacheloggerdpm: sure we can, just that as usual no one wants to do the talks :S12:47
dpmapachelogger, perhaps we can just start listing a few topics on  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek/Prep and then start threath... err persuading people to run the sessions?12:49
apacheloggerright, I'll add them after lunch12:49
dpmcool, thanks apachelogger!12:50
apacheloggerScottK: it turns out it did not link recursive at all, ldd just displayed it recursively -.-13:18
ScottKAh.  U/I issue.13:18
apacheloggerdpm: I added Qt, KDE, QtQuick, PlasmaWidgets and Phonon as topics13:25
apacheloggergroovy13:25
apacheloggerScottK: I haz gl it seems13:25
apacheloggerat least the broken font rendering in the widget explorer suggests that :O13:26
dpmapachelogger, oh, awesome, thanks13:26
apacheloggeroh lawd13:48
* apachelogger imagined plasma-mobile with opengl to work better :S13:48
debfxapachelogger: could you have a quick look at http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/synaptiks_0.5.3-0ubuntu1.dsc14:04
debfxit seems to be working, po/ contains de.po, desktop_synaptiks.pot and synaptiks.pot after the build14:05
apacheloggerlooks good14:11
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debfxokay, uploaded14:23
apacheloggervalorie: pingy14:27
=== txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger
debfxdpm: could you please approve the desktop_synaptiks template?15:14
apacheloggerScottK: so, the good news is everything is workingy, also gles now seems to work in plasma-mobile15:18
apacheloggerBUT15:18
apacheloggeropengl does not improve plasma's performance a lot15:18
apacheloggerinstead it adds rendering problems with text15:18
ScottKLovely.15:19
ScottKIt's a tech preview ....15:19
apacheloggerin particular it would actually appear that the animation parts (e.g. switchin from front of the containment to the back, where one finds menu items and stuff) are not done in gl at all15:19
ScottKWho's bug?15:19
apachelogger*shrug*15:20
apacheloggerwell15:20
apacheloggerI'll polish the default settings a bit15:20
ScottKOK.15:20
apacheloggerdesktop effects need to go, style needs to be plastique and all that stuff15:20
apacheloggerbigger fonts15:20
c2tarunkoffice failed after several hours of building :( here is the error log http://paste.kde.org/7055/  what should I do? Do i have to do whole building again?15:45
tsimpsonc2tarun: fix the errors and run "dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -nc" to continue the build15:50
c2taruntsimpson: sorry but I have no idea how to fix those errors, can you please help?15:51
yofelkformula went missing, you'll need to find out why15:51
c2tarunyofel: what is an kformula? how can I find more about it?15:52
tsimpsonlook in debian/control ;)15:52
yofelc2tarun: the executable went missing15:52
yofelfrom your build log:15:52
yofelcp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/usr/bin/kformula': No such file or directory15:52
tsimpsonit's one of the packages your building apparently15:52
c2tarundo you mean to say that kformula is a package that is needed for building and went missing? 15:53
tsimpsonno, it's produced from the build15:53
tsimpsonit's one of the packages in koffice15:54
yofelc2tarun: it's trying to create the kformula package according to the install file, but one of the files the install file contains (usr/bin/kformula) isn't there, you need to find out why it wasn't built and installed15:54
c2tarunok, I can see in control file that kformula package must be build. here is the control file. http://paste.ubuntu.com/578876/15:56
c2tarunyofel: but I am sorry I dont know how to check why it wasn't built :( can you please give me some hint.15:56
yofeler... look at the build log, maybe the configure script was missing something and decided to build it, maybe kformula was renamed or removed, check the changes file or koffice changelog somwhere15:57
yofel*decided not to build it15:58
c2tarunyofel: kformula is not removed, do you suggest looking at the several hours build log? ;'( well its impossible to scroll over and look into it, do we have any log file anywhere?16:02
yofelwell, the package was configured somewhere before it was built, that's the place you need to start16:02
yofelthe configure or cmake output16:02
c2tarunshould I run cmake and see the o/p?16:02
yofeldoes kformula exist in the source?16:03
yofelc2tarun: your package build log has that o/p already, look there, it might be different from a local cmake run16:03
c2tarunyofel: yup there is a folder with name kformula with its files in it. and what do you mean by package build log? where is it?16:04
dpmdebfx, done16:04
bambeew00t, plasma-netbook rocks on a smartbook ;)16:04
yofelc2tarun: how did you build it?16:04
c2tarunyofel: debuild16:04
debfxthanks16:04
bambeeshadeslayer, Riddell:  how were your presentations ?16:05
yofeloh.. that probably doesn't have one..., run debuild again and abort after it runs cmake16:05
debfxdpm: hm synaptiks is back to "needs review"16:05
c2tarunok, will it spoil the previous debuild? what other ways are there for building?16:06
c2tarunyofel: ^^16:06
dpmdebfx, yeah, but don't worry, it will be imported automatically soon. The imporant bit is the text below the entry: "Will be imported into Template "synaptiks" in Ubuntu Natty package "synaptiks""16:07
dpmall entries start on the "Needs Review" status16:07
dpmand then they are processed by the auto-approver script16:07
yofelc2tarun: well, debuild is one, there is an option you can give it to not delete the previous build, I can't remember it, look at the manpage, the other way to build packages is to use pbuilder https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Intro/Pbuilder  - or pbuilder-dist16:07
ScottKRiddell: Are you around for the release meeting?16:08
c2tarunyofel: I think if I exit my chroot now than it wont spoil the debuild than I can use pbuilder-dist for building.16:09
yofelc2tarun: wait16:10
yofelc2tarun: how did you get into the chroot?16:10
c2tarunsure16:10
c2tarunyofel: I have a chroot for natty and a pbuilder-dist chroot for natty, I used schroot to get into my simple natty chroot.16:10
yofelc2tarun: if you're in a chroot, that is properly set up for natty, then you can probably create a build folder and run cmake there after all16:11
yofelc2tarun: just don't run cmake in the source root, and remove the build folder again before you run debuild again16:11
c2tarunyofel: I am not getting what do you mean by build folder?16:12
yofelc2tarun: in the source root, run 'mkdir build && cd build && cmake ..'16:12
yofelthat way you'll keep your source clean16:13
c2tarunyofel: just that?16:13
* c2tarun trying16:13
yofelI don't know if koffice has any custom cmake flags set in rules, but start with that16:13
c2tarunyofel: by running cmake I am getting the help command list for cmake :/16:14
yofelc2tarun: are you sure koffice uses cmake? Is there a file called configure?16:15
yofeldid you run 'cmake ..' ?16:16
c2tarunyofel: there is no file like configure but there are many files with cmake in there name.16:16
yofelc2tarun: ok, how did you run cmake then?16:16
c2tarunok sorry I just executed cmake and no dots16:16
yofelah, that'll be the problem ^^16:16
c2tarunyofel: I am getting this error CMake Error: The source directory "/" does not appear to contain CMakeLists.txt.16:17
yofelc2tarun: ok, where did you get the source tar from? Or I'll have to continue with guessing all the time...16:18
c2tarunyofel: let me confirm one thing, where you exactly wanted me to make build directory? I think I made it in wrong place. do you want me to make build in the source code folder?16:19
yofelyes16:19
yofelwell, not important, but you must give cmake the path to the source16:20
yofel.. was assuming that the folder was created in the source16:20
ScottKRiddell: I'm guessing that's a no.  I'll do the release team report.16:22
c2tarunyofel: here is the messages I got after running cmake, http://paste.kde.org/7056/16:22
yofelc2tarun: ok, I fear I'll need the whole build log, as that seems correct, where you building koffice 2.3.3 ?16:23
c2tarunyofel: here is the location of my source code folder http://paste.ubuntu.com/578889/16:24
c2tarunyofel: how can I get you whole build log?16:28
c2tarunyofel: I dont think I can copy and pastebinit from terminal, because its too big.16:28
yofelc2tarun: I'll try to build it myself16:29
c2tarunyofel: it will take hours :( there must be some way,16:29
c2tarunyofel: I found the build log16:30
yofeloh?16:30
c2tarunyofel: just tell me how can I show it to you?16:30
yofelwell, upload it somewhere..16:31
c2tarunyofel: ok please wait, I have slow connection and its of 13MB so it will take around 10-15 mins16:32
c2tarunyofel: http://uploading.com/files/9fm18826/koffice_2.3.3-0ubuntu1_i386.build/16:49
c2tarunyofel: ping16:58
yofelgive me a minute16:58
c2tarunsure16:59
yofelc2tarun: hm... it does build a file kformula_bin, but that is never installed, only the documentation and libraries and the install commands are indeed commented out in kformula/CMakeLists.txt17:15
c2tarunyofel: who commented them?17:17
yofelwas trying to find that out, but koffice has moved to git and I can't find kformula now...17:17
c2tarunyofel: I dont think any lines are commented check this out http://paste.ubuntu.com/578915/17:19
c2tarun+ there is no patch which is touching CMakeLists.txt file17:19
yofel*that* is the main CMakeLists.txt17:20
yofelI was talking about kformula/CMakeLists.txt17:20
yofeland it was commented out upstream17:20
yofelno idea why17:20
c2tarunyofel: yup got it, should I uncomment them?17:21
yofelI have personally never touched koffice, so I'm the wrong person to ask, but you can certainly add a patch to enable it again17:22
c2tarunyofel: ok, adding patch means whole build again :/17:22
yofelc2tarun: you should ask Riddell when he gets back, he usually looks at koffice17:23
c2tarunyofel: sure I'll do that :) meanwhile I am asking about this in #koffice let C if somebody replies17:24
c2tarunwell this might be a silly question but kubuntu is shipped with openoffice and not with koffice, why?17:31
jjessebecause ubuntu ships it?17:31
c2tarunyofel: I asked on #koffice and the guy said that I have to update the configuration of .deb any idea that does that mean?17:34
yofelc2tarun: also openoffice has much better support for diverse file formats than koffice, so we use openoffice same as ubuntu17:44
yofelc2tarun: and ok, from what he said in #koffice update the kformula install file, i.e. comment the files that are missing out17:44
c2tarunyofel: comment the files that are missing out means, ignore kformula?17:45
yofelc2tarun: yes, as the intentionally don't install it17:46
yofel*they17:46
c2tarunyofel: ok, I am not very much familiar with cmake, can you please help me in finding the install file for kformula?17:46
yofelthat has nothing to do with cmake17:46
yofelI meant the debian/kformula.install17:47
yofelyou need to update the packaging17:47
c2tarunyofel: there is a long list of files in that .install file, and error was pointing to the very first file, I think on commenting it I'll get an error for second file and so on, here is the file koffice_2.3.3-0ubuntu1_i386.build I think I should remove the whole fiel17:52
yofelc2tarun: it probably isn't the only file missing, but according to the build log some files ARE installed, maybe remove the file, check the list-missing output later and then refresh the file using that as reference, that will only require one more build18:00
yofeland there was some flag for debuild to rebuild the package without recompiling, can't remember it though18:01
yofelah, -nc 18:02
shadeslayerdoes one need sudo with do-release-upgrade?18:18
c2tarunyofel: sorry this might be a silly question but, you guys reply when I write ping and your IRC id but on simple messages sometimes, you dont notice. Is there any sound notification with ping word?18:18
yofelshadeslayer: yep18:18
shadeslayerhmm18:18
shadeslayeri thought it didn't ....18:19
apacheloggerI once did an upgrade18:19
apacheloggerit broke my system18:19
yofelc2tarun: if you have sound enabled yes, the reason I didn't immediately reply was that I was away from my keyboard18:19
shadeslayer:D18:19
apacheloggermust have been in 1783 I believe18:19
shadeslayeryofel: apachelogger seen dot.kde.org :D18:19
yofelshadeslayer: oh, not yet18:19
* yofel goes looking18:19
shadeslayerhttp://dot.kde.org/2011/03/11/confkdein-project-neon-returns-bleeding-edge-kde-software18:19
yofel:D18:19
shadeslayeryep ... we are in buisness18:20
shadeslayeraltho i should get rid of this laptop18:20
yofelheh, even with a shot of you :P18:20
shadeslayershitty nvidia card didn't work again18:20
shadeslayeryofel: yeah :P18:20
yofelI'll fix the techbase page later, as someone said in kde-devel a few days ago my installing instructions are incomplete (I reference the env script without telling to install -common)18:21
shadeslayeryeah18:21
wolfpackI was planning to add print functionality into a project.  The thing is it should be lightweight while fullfilling basic print functionalities. Can someone tell me what are the best options?18:39
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c2tarunyofel: I am getting this error: dpkg-genchanges: error: cannot read ../koffice_2.3.3-0ubuntu1.dsc: No such file or directory should I build the source pacakge first?18:48
yofelyes, the .dsc is generated by debuild -S18:49
c2tarunyofel: but its first time I am getting this error, I always build binary package first and then the source package.18:49
yofelwell, debuild will also create the .dsc - if it runs *successfully*18:50
c2tarunyofel: ok I'll build source pacakge first and then the binary package.18:51
shadeslayerherp derp18:55
shadeslayerdo-release-upgrade isn't working18:55
c2tarunyofel: http://paste.kde.org/7068/ this is the error I am getting on building the source package.18:55
c2tarunshadeslayer: are you trying to upgrade to natty?18:55
yofelshadeslayer: haha, what's the problem?18:55
shadeslayeryofel: stuck at calculating changes18:56
shadeslayer>.>18:56
yofelc2tarun: go to source, rm -rf build, and then try again18:56
shadeslayerpersia: are you OK?18:56
yofelyou didn't remove the build directory as I told you before running debuild18:56
c2tarunyofel: oh... very sorry I forgot18:56
yofelshadeslayer: ouch, let's see if I get hold packages here18:57
ScottKshadeslayer: I recall someone mentioning that they'd heard he was.18:57
shadeslayerah okay18:58
shadeslayeryofel: http://paste.kde.org/707018:58
yofelshadeslayer: no idea, I don't have anything held back here in natty18:58
shadeslayer:S18:59
shadeslayeri could just dist upgrade18:59
yofelprobably19:00
yofelthat's what I usually do (with aptitude) since I manage my source by hand anyway19:00
shadeslayerhmm19:00
yofel*sources.list19:00
yofelbtw. any reason we backported qtcreator 2.1 beta1 in the beta PPA for maverick but never backported 2.1 final?19:06
nigelbshadeslayer: I thought you were going to bed early? :P19:16
nigelbdarn19:16
nigelbI forgot to get stickers from Riddell :(19:16
danttiis there a way to use kmail without akonady mysql stuff?19:25
dantticause akonadi does not start and I can't use kmail because of that19:25
_Groo_dantti: why doesnt akonadi start?19:34
dantti_Groo_: it doesnt connect with mysql which wasn't installed but after installed I don't know what to do to create the db it want's19:35
danttiwhich would be easier if it use postgres since I have it installed 19:36
danttiI only don't get why amarok uses embeded mysql and akonadi doesn't19:36
_Groo_dantti: remove the akonadi config files and ~/.kde/share/apps/akonadi19:36
_Groo_dantti: then use akonadiconsole or systemsettings to point to an external mysql19:37
_Groo_dantti: and let it recreate the db19:37
danttiit does not have any config files19:37
danttiwhere in ss I do that?19:38
_Groo_dantti: let me check, its been a while19:38
_Groo_dantti: personal configuration19:40
_Groo_dantti: but akonadiconsole is a separate package i think19:40
_Groo_dantti: yeah you need akonadiconsole in order to configure a external server19:41
_Groo_dantti: it defaults for a internal mysql, which you should have too19:41
dantti_Groo_: but is it really needed just for kmail19:41
danttilast time I used kmail it wasn't needed (4.4) or so19:41
_Groo_dantti: are you using kmail default or kmail beta aka 4.5.96.119:42
_Groo_or 4.6.96.1, whatever19:42
dantti4.6 from backports ppa19:42
danttiakonadiconsole fails to connect too19:43
_Groo_dantti: theres an option to configure the server, along with start/stop19:43
_Groo_dantti: look around and see whats going on19:43
danttiit crashes19:43
_Groo_what version shows up for kmail? the package version number19:44
dantti4:4.4.9-0ubuntu1~19:44
_Groo_dantti: thats the old one, you DONT need akonadi to use kmail, its optional19:46
_Groo_dantti: run kmail from the command line and see what it says19:46
dantti_Groo_: kmail runs but when I try to setup my email account the akonadi thing shows saing that some stuff is not running and the only button closes kmail19:47
_Groo_can you remove akonadi? with purge?19:48
_Groo_just for testing purposes19:48
dantti_Groo_: which package? last time I tried it tried to remove more things19:48
_Groo_dantti: ok, run akonadiconsole19:49
_Groo_dantti: does it show anything in the browser tab?19:50
dantti_Groo_: http://pastebin.com/tWPHyLCF19:50
_Groo_dantti: remove /home/daniel/.local/share/akonadi19:51
_Groo_try again19:51
dantti_Groo_: same issue19:52
_Groo_dantti: your akonadi install is broken, thats for sure19:57
_Groo_pastebin the version of kmail, akonadi, nepomuk and kdelibs19:57
dantti_Groo_: http://pastebin.com/hzQpgNn520:00
_Groo_dantti: all *akonadi* packages pls20:03
dantti_Groo_: sorry for the delay http://pastebin.com/8Rmdgqb320:10
_Groo_dantti: pt ou br?20:12
danttibr20:13
_Groo_dantti: kdepim-runtime version? paste here, its one liner20:13
_Groo_entao veio20:13
_Groo_tem alguma coisa errada com o teu akonadi20:13
dantti4:4.4.9-0ubuntu1~20:14
dantti_Groo_: probably because I remember trying to get rid of it20:14
danttiisn't there more files to remove?20:14
_Groo_probably20:14
_Groo_you broken akonadi, and consequently kmail20:15
_Groo_force remove with dpkg -r --force-all packages20:15
dantti:( need to go now, thanks for the help... :P20:15
_Groo_all libakonadi, and all kdepim stuff20:15
dantticya20:15
_Groo_and let apt-get -f install remake it20:15
ScottKGonna upload qt4-x11 to build against gcc4.5 on armel again.20:44
ScottKqt4-x11 uploaded.22:43

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