[00:00] <nhandler> Hmm...Looks like we might have lost akgraner :(
[00:00] <pleia2> yeah
[00:00] <pleia2> well, we can probably get started anyway
[00:01] <nhandler> Did you want to start pleia2? Or should I?
[00:01] <pleia2> you can, I already chaired one meeting today :)
[00:01] <nhandler> #startmeeting
[00:01] <Mootbot-UK> Meeting started at 00:01. The chair is nhandler.
[00:01] <Mootbot-UK> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [PROGRESS REPORT], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[00:02] <nhandler> [TOPIC] Rotate all UWN Tasks
[00:02] <Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  Rotate all UWN Tasks
[00:02] <nhandler> I've been meaning to get an email out about this, but that has gotten delayed a bit.
[00:02] <nhandler> Basically, publishing UWN is a pretty large task. Even splitting up the various sections still requires a lot of work from people
[00:03] <pleia2> so we're thinking of taking this and chopping it up a bit? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies/HowToEdit
[00:03] <akgraner> nope I'm here
[00:03] <pleia2> I'm wondering how much of this we can further automate
[00:03] <nhandler> pleia2: Basically. People would sign up to handle various parts of that list on a per-issue basis (instead of for all issues)
[00:04] <akgraner> that would be awesome if people would :-)
[00:04] <pleia2> it was kind of silly how long it takes to do: Updates and Security and Upcoming Meetings and Events
[00:04] <akgraner> I think we can link to those
[00:04] <akgraner> but that's just me
[00:04] <pleia2> there are scripts for these, but humans still need to do stuff
[00:04] <akgraner> nods so we link to the calendar
[00:04] <nhandler> pleia2: Upcoming Meetings and Events is hard to automate due to recurring tasks (they make it rather hard to parse)
[00:05] <akgraner> and link to the update archives
[00:05] <pleia2> akgraner: yeah, maybe we just do that
[00:05] <akgraner> I also think the team reports can just be a link to the wiki page
[00:05] <nhandler> Out of curiosity, is anyone else watching besides me, pleia2, akgraner, and holstein ?
[00:05] <akgraner> b/c they make it LONG
[00:06] <pleia2> akgraner: *nod*
[00:06] <nhandler> akgraner: I've shortened them down to only including the councils and mentioning the teams that had reports
[00:06] <akgraner> and people who read it on a mobile device complain about it's length
[00:06] <holstein> and i gotta run like its my birthday... and it is :)
[00:06] <akgraner> holstein, happy b-day
[00:06] <nhandler> Happy Birthday holstein
[00:06] <pleia2> happy birthday holstein :)
[00:06] <holstein> thanks
[00:06] <holstein> i'll look back over the meeting though
[00:06] <akgraner> I know I was supposed to roll out a new template...
[00:06] <pleia2> I am less concerned about length and more concerned about man power at this point (I like that it's long, but it's too tedious)
[00:07] <akgraner> but that that got put on the back burner
[00:07] <nhandler> +1 pleia2
[00:07] <akgraner> pleia2, that's always been the issue..:-/
[00:07] <pleia2> changing 19-21 into simple links makes things that much easier
[00:07] <nhandler> I think if we get a signup page and email out, we could probably get a few new faces (I don't know if they'll stick around or not)
[00:08] <akgraner> we have some same links on a page
[00:08] <akgraner> I'll have to find that wiki...
[00:08] <akgraner> we can just link to the wiki that has the various sample links for those
[00:08] <akgraner> if you'd like
[00:09] <nhandler> akgraner: I'm not sure if I'm sure what page you are talking about
[00:09] <pleia2> do we want to continue to highlight the minutes of Weekly Ubuntu Development Team Meetings?
[00:09] <akgraner> one sec I'll find it...
[00:09] <akgraner> nah
[00:09] <akgraner> we can pull that
[00:09] <nhandler> Agreed
[00:10] <pleia2> we can toss important stuff in General Community News
[00:10] <akgraner> I had people ask why we didn't add more development stuff so I said I would try that approach
[00:10] <akgraner> we tried it and clearly it wasn't as needed as some thought
[00:10] <akgraner> but you don't know if you don't try
[00:10] <nhandler> If people are really interested in a specific dev team, there are much better ways to stay up-to-date
[00:11]  * pleia2 nods
[00:11] <akgraner> then just pull it..
[00:12] <nhandler> Well, I can finish up the email. If someone can get a wiki page put together (or modify an existing one) so that people can sign up to do a certain step for a particular issue of UWN, that would be helpful
[00:13] <akgraner> don't we have one we just need to modify?
[00:13] <pleia2> looks like Liraz is continuing to do the bug and brainstorm stats, so they can stay :)
[00:13] <nhandler> akgraner: We might from when we were trying to set this up for rotating editors
[00:13] <akgraner> I'll look
[00:13] <akgraner> when does it need to be done by?
[00:14] <nhandler> akgraner: Whenever you get a chance.
[00:14] <akgraner> pleia2, yep I'll let him know we are going to just provide links to Updates and security archives
[00:14] <akgraner> so there will be no need to run the script to pull all the updates anymore...
[00:14] <pleia2> akgraner: that's different than the updates and security
[00:14] <akgraner> right
[00:14] <nhandler> [ACTION] nhandler to draft rotating-postions email
[00:14] <Mootbot-UK> ACTION received:  nhandler to draft rotating-postions email
[00:14] <akgraner> I know
[00:15] <akgraner> he does all of those
[00:15] <nhandler> [ACTION] akgraner to take care of finding/editing signup wiki page
[00:15] <Mootbot-UK> ACTION received:  akgraner to take care of finding/editing signup wiki page
[00:15] <pleia2> oh
[00:15] <akgraner> :-)
[00:15] <pleia2> well if he's doing them there is no need for us to get rid of those sections :)
[00:15] <pleia2> if we have a volunteer who is willing, keep!
[00:16] <akgraner> we does but he also overrides them each week
[00:16]  * nhandler nods
[00:16] <pleia2> ok, let's keep all those sections then
[00:16] <pleia2> these will turn into links:
[00:16] <pleia2> Weekly Ubuntu Development Team Meetings
[00:16] <pleia2> Monthly Team Reports: <MONTH> <YEAR>
[00:16] <pleia2> Upcoming Meetings and Events
[00:16] <akgraner> so someone will need to verify that they are all there from the last publication
[00:16] <akgraner> b/c they will only be the last week
[00:17] <nhandler> pleia2: I'm still not sure about the Team Reports. I'd like to play with a few ideas I have (I think we need to somehow recognize teams that do them)
[00:17] <pleia2> nhandler: ok
[00:17] <akgraner> nhandler, that's you're baby so however you want to do it
[00:17] <nhandler> akgraner: We can sort that out when we finally get in a position to release a new UWN again
[00:17] <nhandler> [TOPIC] Fridge Migration
[00:17] <Mootbot-UK> New Topic:  Fridge Migration
[00:18] <akgraner> other than the feedburner what else is broken?
[00:18] <nhandler> Do we have any information on when we will finally have fridge.ubuntu.com point directly to the server instead of just redirecting to ubuntu-news.org?
[00:18] <akgraner> nope not yet...but I can follow up on that
[00:18] <nhandler> Thanks
[00:19] <nhandler> We were also wondering if you remembered the reasoning for using feedburner rather than the native WP rss feed
[00:19] <akgraner> nope - I emailed Nick as I am sure there was a reason I just don't remember what it was..
[00:19] <nhandler> Thanks akgraner
[00:20] <akgraner> but I'll see him this weekend so if he hasn't answered the email I'll ask him in person
[00:20] <pleia2> (cornering in person)++
[00:20] <pleia2> :)
[00:20] <akgraner> :-)
[00:21] <nhandler> pleia2: I know we talked briefly about this a few weeks ago, but have you noticed any other problems with the interview script?
[00:21]  * nhandler isn't sure if we've had new interviews since then
[00:21] <pleia2> I don't think we've had a new one
[00:21] <pleia2> but other than the tagging, it seems fine
[00:21] <nhandler> pleia2: I /think/ I got the tagging working (but I can't test to confirm)
[00:22]  * pleia2 nods
[00:22] <nhandler> 7
[00:23] <nhandler> The rotating positions thing was my main topic, any other topics people want to discuss?
[00:23] <pleia2> I think that's it
[00:24] <pleia2> should we propose a next publish date for UWN?
[00:24] <nhandler> pleia2: I think that would probably depend on when we get the call for help out (or when we find ourselves with a very free weekend)
[00:24] <akgraner> nhandler, pleia2 thank you all so much!  You all have taken on so much in the last four months
[00:25] <pleia2> nhandler: *nod* ok, we'll talk about that once we have our ducks lined up :)
[00:25] <nhandler> pleia2: My goal would be early April though
[00:25] <pleia2> ok
[00:25] <akgraner> I like the April Idea
[00:25] <nhandler> Thanks for coming everyone, and I'll try to get the email out asap
[00:25] <akgraner> I'll be moved by then
[00:25] <nhandler> #endmeeting
[00:25] <Mootbot-UK> Meeting finished at 00:25.
[00:26] <pleia2> akgraner: I'd also like to do a News thing at UDS (I can put together a blueprint once we start writing such things)
[00:27] <pleia2> drag some other community folks in to help and give input
[00:27] <akgraner> +1
[00:27] <akgraner> pleia2, I can help with the BP if you want
[00:27] <pleia2> great :)
[00:27] <akgraner> Can we do that next week once I get back from PyCon?
[00:27] <pleia2> sure
[00:28] <akgraner> awesome...then Monday or Tuesday we can just knock it out
[00:29] <akgraner> in the meantime I'll find those wiki pages and update then etc
[00:29]  * nhandler hugs akgraner 
[00:29]  * pleia2 hugs all around
[00:30] <pleia2> thanks akgraner and nhandler :)
[00:30] <akgraner> :-) I <3 y'all!
[00:45] <pleia2> nhandler: can you log in to ubuntu-news.org w/ LP?
[00:45] <pleia2> I haven't been able to lately
[00:45] <nhandler> Let me try
[00:46] <pleia2> it sends me to LP, I say "yes, sign me in" and end up with "OpenID login failed: Server denied check_authentication"
[00:47] <akgraner> so if SSO is broken I need to include that in my email
[00:47] <nhandler> pleia2: I just had the same error.
[00:47] <pleia2> ok, akgraner please include this :)
[00:48]  * nhandler goes to see if our plugin is outdated
[00:48] <akgraner> will do :--)
[00:49] <nhandler> Hmm...It says that we don't have libcurl support for PHP or the XRDS-Simple plugin
[05:34] <pleia2> feedburner working again \o/
[12:50] <nhandler> pleia2: Great. Did we figure out why we are using feedburner yet?