[02:07] <lfitz> nhaines, is there a lake forest loco tonight?
[02:12] <nUboon2Age> i'm moving the Ubuntu Hour: SJ that was supposed to be tonight tentatively to the 31st. pleia2, aaditya, jtatum, jledbetter, outofjungle
[02:13] <jledbetter> nUboon2Age, Ok, thank you :)
[02:13] <jledbetter> nUboon2Age, Going to geeknic?
[02:14] <nUboon2Age> sorry to be so last minute.  i'm completely exhausted.  see y'all next week on Tuesday for Ubuntu Hour: Mountain View (moved off St. Pat's day).  hi jledbetter! :-)
[02:14] <nUboon2Age> adios all...
[02:15] <jledbetter> Drat. Moved from St Pat's day? Drat!
[02:16] <jledbetter> That's the second thing moved that week. What in the wide world of sports...
[05:57] <DarkwingDuck> nhaines: Any word on the videos from Ubucon being uploaded yet?
[17:27] <pleia2> hmm, doesn't look like nUboon2Age made any entry/updates/posts for the mt view hour, I assume it'll be at red rock?
[17:27] <pleia2> jtatum: do you know?
[17:44] <jledbetter> pleia2, The one that was moved from St Patrick's day?
[17:45] <pleia2> jledbetter: I assume so, but there wasn't any announcement or loco directory entry for the 17th either
[17:46] <jledbetter> Probably same spot then. Was hoping it was going to be the 17th but at least there's the 19th :)
[17:58] <jtatum> Let me make sure that's all squared away.
[17:59] <jtatum> red rock is correct though
[17:59] <pleia2> thanks jtatum :)
[18:00] <pleia2> unfortunately if it's the 15th that conflicts with jdeslip's talk at balug
[18:01] <pleia2> but there is always next time
[18:09] <jtatum> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/799/detail/
[18:09] <jtatum> it's the 24th
[18:11] <pleia2> oh good, so no st patrick's conflict afterall :)
[18:12] <jtatum> nope, we decided at the last hour to just go a week later for march
[18:12] <jtatum> probably we'll move back because it conflicts with baypiggies on the 24th
[18:12] <pleia2> it usually conflicts with baylisa, which is sad
[18:17] <pleia2> oh bother, the 24th is the HOA meeting
[18:17] <pleia2> I can never win :)
[18:20] <jtatum> seems like you could do something almost every day. figuring out what to go to is an art around here. gotta prioritize and figure out how many to go to before getting people'd out
[18:20] <pleia2> indeed :)
[18:21] <pleia2> my boyfriend is on the board of the HOA, so on HOA meeting nights he comes home early (which means I have no ride home from mt view0
[18:21] <pleia2> well, aside from caltrain, but then it takes me 2 hours to get home
[18:46] <jledbetter> What's wrong with geeking out on St Patrick's day?
[18:47] <jledbetter> Green beer + Ubuntu == fun, eh? ;)
[18:47] <iheartubuntu> yay. wife just got naturalized in ceremony  a few moments ago
[18:48] <iheartubuntu> beer? someone said BEER?
[18:48] <jledbetter> iheartubuntu, Yes, and let's celebrate *that* too! Congratulations to her!
[18:49] <jledbetter> iheartubuntu, Though, not sure what it means but you said "yay" so I say yay. What is it?
[18:49] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: congrats!
[18:50] <iheartubuntu> she became an american citizen
[18:50] <jledbetter> Awesome :)
[18:50] <jledbetter> iheartubuntu, Where's she from?
[18:50] <iheartubuntu> russia
[18:50] <jledbetter> Cool (pun intended)
[18:52] <iheartubuntu> tell me about it :)
[18:52] <iheartubuntu> -30 celsius one new years eve
[18:52] <iheartubuntu> nothing like drinking a bottle of champagne in mcdonalds :)
[18:53] <jledbetter> Wild
[18:54] <iheartubuntu> and double yay she finally switched to skype to talk to her family
[18:54] <iheartubuntu> no more icq withu buntu probs for me
[18:55] <iheartubuntu> no word from my brother in japan
[18:55] <iheartubuntu> usually i hear from him quickly too when something happens
[18:56] <iheartubuntu> must still have power outages
[18:56] <jledbetter> I hope he's alright.
[18:57] <iheartubuntu> ive heard lots of tweeting going on in japan. how are they doing it without electricity and phone outages?
[19:02] <pleia2> jdeslip: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/5518045150/ shall come to your talk on tuesday to cheer you on
[19:02] <pleia2> I have to leave early though, since I need to go to san jose that night to pick up MJ from the airport
[19:03] <jdeslip> Sweet, I'll refer all questions I can't answer to the squishable bugdroid
[19:05] <pleia2> hehe
[19:12] <iheartubuntu> natty boy!
[19:13] <DarkwingDuck> iheartubuntu: where was your brother at?
[19:13] <DarkwingDuck> iheartubuntu: military?
[19:13] <iheartubuntu> someplace southwest of tokyo
[19:13] <iheartubuntu> between tokyo and osaka
[19:13] <iheartubuntu> about halfway
[19:13]  * DarkwingDuck nods
[19:13] <DarkwingDuck> Military?
[19:13] <iheartubuntu> i dont remember the perfecture name
[19:14] <iheartubuntu> no
[19:14] <iheartubuntu> retirement sorta :)
[19:14] <DarkwingDuck> ahh
[19:14] <iheartubuntu> BofA programmer of ATM machines back in the 70s
[19:14] <pleia2> my cousin in tokyo updated facebook, she still has power and internet access at her place (11th floor of some highrise downtown)
[19:14] <iheartubuntu> he retired a long time back and has been traveling the world.
[19:15] <iheartubuntu> so she is ok?
[19:15] <iheartubuntu> GOOD
[19:15] <pleia2> yeah, just freaked out, it was all very scary
[19:15] <iheartubuntu> settled in japan. wife is japanese
[19:15] <iheartubuntu> WAIT... lyz you dont know what a real quake is like do you
[19:15] <akk> pleia2: Was it pretty strong in Tokyo? Do they have any damage there?
[19:15] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: nope
[19:16] <pleia2> akk: yes, they sent everyone home from work (she's a bank executive)
[19:16] <akk> I've been through '71 and '89, but I don't know what a real quake is like either. Those were tiny compared to this one.
[19:16] <iheartubuntu> i heard a report late last night that within 10 days california is on high alert for an even larger quake
[19:16] <iheartubuntu> true
[19:17] <pleia2> she lived in NYC during 9/11, compared the hysteria in tokyo to that :(
[19:17] <iheartubuntu> i had the quake down here in montebello area... was big. but only a 6.5 i think
[19:17] <iheartubuntu> that was 87 or so
[19:17] <iheartubuntu> the northridge quake didnt feel that big to me
[19:18] <iheartubuntu> i just fell asleep the other night watching hereafter. not theb est movie to fall asleep to!
[19:20] <iheartubuntu> chile had some major quakes recently too. we are in the ring
[19:21] <pleia2> I was surprised to wake up to tsunami warnings *here* this morning, the pacific is big!
[19:21] <akk> chile and japan usually have the worst quakes (and alaska) -- subduction zones.
[19:21] <akk> and indonesia
[19:23] <iheartubuntu> so im just guessing it could be the recent increase in sun activity
[19:28] <akk> Then you just have to explain the big quakes that happen during solar minimum.
[19:35] <iheartubuntu> i havent really plotted anything. would be interesting to see
[19:35] <iheartubuntu> 8.9 i cannot even imagine that
[19:36] <nhaines> pleia2: Long Beach got 2-foot higher tsunami waves this morning.
[19:36] <jtatum> people try to blame sun cycles for all kinds of stuff so there are a lot of plots already. no correlation. earthquakes don't correlate to anything.
[19:36] <pleia2> nhaines: they were saying just 8" storm surge here (and it hit during low tide), so they closed the beaches and the highway next to the ocean, but there were no problems
[19:37] <nhaines> pleia2: I understand that Crescent City got hammered but I haven't heard specifics other than boats smashed together and docks shattered.
[19:38] <pleia2> nhaines: I watched some of the news for Crescent City, seems a bit of an overreaction :) some private boats got knocked about but there doesn't seem to be any flooding or anything major
[19:39] <nhaines> nhaines: everything seemed to be pointing to a blog post so... yeah, I'm still waiting.  :)
[19:40] <pleia2> "Thirty-five boats have been crushed and the harbor has major damage. Major damage."
[19:40] <pleia2> 35 boats in a coastal town is *nothing*
[19:40] <pleia2> there are probably thousands that are fine
[19:40] <pleia2> I guess there is some flooding reported now
[19:41] <akk> That's still amazing for being so far away from the source of the tsunami!
[19:41] <pleia2> yeah
[19:41] <akk> Crescent City is pretty tiny, I doubt it has thousands of boats.
[19:41] <pleia2> ah ok
[19:41] <pleia2> I think I'll go visit the animals at sfzoo tomorrow
[19:42] <akk> total population 7,789 according to wikipedia
[19:42] <pleia2> I grew up in a 8k population coastal town, we had thousands of boats, but we had docks that had a lot of out of town people with boats
[19:43] <pleia2> hurricanes were always a mess
[19:43] <pleia2> we did a lot of fishing too (lots of lobster boats)
[19:48] <iheartubuntu> never been in a hurricane
[19:48] <iheartubuntu> no thanks!
[19:49] <iheartubuntu> my mom worked for a guy who had a newspaper article in his office. he was on the cover of the news back in the 80s. he was in a car that was picked up and dropped off 10 miles away fro ma tornado. no thanks :)
[19:50] <iheartubuntu> anyone having gwibber problems?
[19:50] <pleia2> Hurricane Bob (1991) took out a huuuuge cherry tree in our front yard, but we were on vacation in upstate NY when that hit
[19:51] <iheartubuntu> i love upsate NY and VT
[19:51] <iheartubuntu> spent lot of time around there
[19:51] <iheartubuntu> mostly burlington to rutland
[19:52] <iheartubuntu> miss the colors and how crisp the air is and clean visually everything is
[19:52] <iheartubuntu> u dont get that here :)
[19:52] <pleia2> the ice storm in 1998 is probably the worst disaster I've lived through
[19:52] <pleia2> the entire state of maine was declared a disaster area
[19:53] <iheartubuntu> what kind of damage? were you stuck inside for long periods of time?
[19:53] <pleia2> no power, no water, only emergency vehicles allowed on the roads
[19:54] <pleia2> we were in a reasonably populated area, so we were only without power for a day, but it was the beginning of january and it was like 10F degrees out
[19:54] <pleia2> water was back within 3 days, some neighbors a quarter mile away on a well brought us fresh water
[19:55] <pleia2> much of the state had no power for 2+ weeks though
[19:55] <pleia2> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_ice_storm_of_1998
[19:55] <pleia2> "Roughly 700,000 of Maine's 1.2 million residents were without electricity, the Maine National Guard was mobilized, and hundreds of utility crews from as far away as North Carolina arrived to help."
[19:56] <pleia2> was pretty crazy
[19:56] <jtatum> hurricanes are not as bad as they look on the news
[19:56] <pleia2> also, hehe, it's so cute that maine only has 1.2 million people :) how quaint
[19:57] <jtatum> florida news crews are expert at filming every gas station awning and huge, rusted sign that blows over when winds pick up
[19:57] <pleia2> yeah, my grandparents have lived in melborne, fl for over a decade with no ill effects
[20:02] <jtatum> plus, unlike earthquakes, they don't tend to kill people
[20:03] <pleia2> and you see them coming
[20:04] <akk> The swarm of aftershocks in this one is really amazing. I bet I've gotten 50 different USGS notices so far.
[20:05] <iheartubuntu> just those aftershocks are mostly bigger than big ones here
[20:05] <akk> When I first checked my mail this morning, I glanced at the list and said "obviously something is broken with the USGS system, delete-delete-delete"
[20:05] <akk> and found out later they were real
[20:05] <pleia2> hehe
[20:42] <seidos> what's going on?!
[21:00] <iheartubuntu> the lights
[21:01] <iheartubuntu> :D
[21:01] <iheartubuntu> work
[21:05] <seidos> vines
[21:06] <seidos> i just read this tweet:  "Future of Linux in consumer space is commercial mixed-source forks like webOS/Android. GNOME is going nowhere. I switched to a Mac this week"
[21:15] <iheartubuntu> i was thinking about this recently actually. where can ubuntu go if google os and android are going full steam ahead with billions backing them
[21:16] <iheartubuntu> for me its the alternative reason. i read most android and iphone apps are not open source either
[21:16] <iheartubuntu> with ubuntu most everything is
[21:17] <iheartubuntu> its an interesting topic for sure
[21:17] <iheartubuntu> i tried a mac at a friends house recently trying to fix her computer. i kept telling her, you know this would just work in ubuntu. you know you wouldnt have these problems with ubuntu. your dad is using ubuntu for a year now and he never complains about anything anymore
[21:18] <iheartubuntu> when approaching the topic... yah its a good question for sure, but once you realyl start thinking about it... ubuntu is the choice for me
[21:26] <pleia2> hehe, all our east coast clients who call today are all "so, how's the tsunami?"
[21:26]  * pleia2 tells them that the beaches got wet
[21:40] <seidos> there was some bad stuff in san jose i read
[21:40] <seidos> iheartubuntu: if android or web os turns out to be superior, would you stay with ubuntu?
[21:40] <seidos> i don't have any delusions that if ubuntu can't compete, it will likely be abandoned
[21:59] <iheartubuntu> radiation levels at nuke plant in japan 1000x times normal
[22:01] <iheartubuntu> pleia2 jsut curious if you are using your cr48 for most tasks or use it as an extra computer? travel computer? etc?
[22:01] <iheartubuntu> in front of the tv computer? :)
[22:02] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: travel is still always the netbook (it's smaller), but at home in front of the tv etc I switch between my netbook and cr48 depending on what I'm doing
[22:03] <pleia2> cr48 is good when I want to focus on email or writing in my blog, fewer distractions
[22:03] <pleia2> and I use it for watching video.pbs.org
[22:06] <iheartubuntu> im a sucker for create tv
[22:06] <iheartubuntu> ohh wow pbs website is a lot nicer than i recall it
[22:07] <pleia2> yeah, and they have loads of streaming stuff
[22:08] <iheartubuntu> austin city limits cool
[22:08] <iheartubuntu> dave matthews band... they used to be sooo popular in the NE
[22:09] <DarkwingDuck> And it gets worse in Japan... http://goo.gl/8lYg7
[22:09] <akk> "please log in"
[22:10] <iheartubuntu> hmm. chrome doesnt want to play pbs
[22:10] <DarkwingDuck> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703597804576194123030511478.html?mod=e2tw
[22:10] <akk> firefox wouldn't play bbc when I tried this morning.
[22:10] <DarkwingDuck> Firfox played just fine for me.
[22:11] <akk> DarkwingDuck: ugh, I hope they get it cooled off in time.
[22:11] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah...
[22:13] <iheartubuntu> i really like the NYT and USAtoday  chrome apps... too bad other newspapers arent doing similar. LA times, etc
[22:20] <iheartubuntu> wheres crescent city? santa cruz got hit pretty good
[22:20] <pleia2> waaay up northern california
[22:20] <pleia2> crescent city seems to be much worse than santa cruz
[22:23] <akk> Crescent City is very tsunami-prone for some reason.
[22:24] <akk> Looking at the NOAA wave-height diagram, it looks like maybe the ocean floor is concentrating waves in a few directions.
[22:24] <akk> http://www.nnvl.noaa.gov/images/high_resolution/680_20110311-TsunamiWaveHeight.jpg
[22:25] <akk> CC may be at the focus of some complicated ocean-floor funnel.
[22:32] <iheartubuntu> ok north of eureka even
[22:32] <iheartubuntu> we have any ubuntu hours there? :)
[22:35] <iheartubuntu> i havent kept up - did the tsunami in japan happen after the quake or at the same time?
[22:37] <pleia2> after
[22:37] <akk> caused by
[22:56] <iheartubuntu> im curious what the eta from the quake to when the tsunami hit
[22:57] <iheartubuntu> i heard on the radio this AM that all twitter tweets are recorded and sent to the library of congress
[22:59] <jbermudes> iheartubuntu: it was about 45 minutes IIRC
[22:59] <iheartubuntu> aa thanks
[22:59] <iheartubuntu> hiya jess!
[22:59] <iheartubuntu> im having all sorts of probs with my email lately. hope you got that one about ubuntu hour starting in pasadena
[23:00] <jbermudes> yeah, I did. I'm looking forward to it!
[23:00] <iheartubuntu> i should send it to the mailing list also
[23:00] <jbermudes> yeah, good idea
[23:04] <seidos> apparently a dude was swept out to sea in california:  http://abcnews.go.com/US/california-man-swept-sea-tsunami/story?id=13112901
[23:04] <seidos> dag
[23:12] <iheartubuntu> sheez
[23:29] <seidos> clement sauve died, he was 33 :|
[23:32] <pleia2> http://www.berkeleyside.com/2011/03/11/tsunami-makes-it-to-bay-area-photographed-in-emeryville/
[23:32] <pleia2> pretty neat
[23:33] <seidos> i swear i'm going to piss someone off and get blasted in the face someday.  it'll be w/ the ULUG.  i'll say something on irc and then we'll meet for some LUGish thing and then *blasted* right in the face
[23:33] <pleia2> (there is a video in the comments too)
[23:33] <seidos> pleia2: have you seen the movie "north shore"?
[23:34] <seidos> it was a cheezy 80s surf movie.  i thought it was so cool when i was a kid.
[23:34] <pleia2> nope
[23:34] <seidos> to this day, i wish my name was "turtle"
[23:34] <akk> There's a Barbara Kingsolver book that has a kid character named Turtle.
[23:36] <iheartubuntu> does anyone know offhand what sort of backup file MS outlook creates and if evolution can take it and restore it?
[23:37] <iheartubuntu> i'll be showing ubuntu to an old XP user tomorrow