[02:11] <snap-l> http://www.oobject.com/category/insane-asylum-plans/
[02:12] <snap-l> I find it a little disturbing that there's three insane asylum hospital plans for Michigan
[03:50] <Blazeix> whoa, I just accidentally found out you can resize the Awesome WM layouts using super+right_click.
[03:51] <Blazeix> I'd been wondering if there was a way to do that.
[12:49] <wolfger> Morning, everybody
[12:49] <wolfger> Even rick_h_ who is off enjoying Pycon :-p
[12:50] <rick_h_> woot!
[12:52] <brousch> were you up all night hacking on pyramid?
[12:53] <brousch> whoa, check this job out http://ow.ly/4coLG
[12:53] <brousch> php, python, java, cassandra, $80k - $100k
[12:54] <brousch> xbox360?!
[12:55] <rick_h_> brousch: heh no. Went out with Mark Ramm and some guys
[12:56] <brousch> so you were up all night talking about hacking on pyramid?
[12:56] <rick_h_> closer
[12:57] <rick_h_> we had some django guys at dinner to we teamed up and crushed them
[12:57] <brousch> crushed them?
[12:58] <rick_h_> yea, basically told them all the sucki-ness of django
[12:58] <brousch> did they cry?
[12:58] <rick_h_> almost, we took it easy on them
[12:59] <brousch> so what is sucky besides the orm?
[13:00] <rick_h_> the lack of wsgi, the template layer, the hacks in the codebase itself that make it impossible to read/work on
[13:00] <_stink_> morning
[13:00] <rick_h_> and the community with their stupid irc peeps chasing me out of their channel :)
[13:01] <brousch> i'm sure you were trolling in there
[13:03] <brousch> oh man, my jaw is dropped and will not shut http://www.fcsuper.com/swblog/?p=2662
[13:05] <brousch> free cross-platform 2D CAD from Solidworks. we pay about $1000/seat/yr for autocad
[13:11] <wolfger> Gee... I wonder why they would chase rick_h_ out of their IRC channel with an attitude like that? :-p
[13:12] <wolfger> I mean, it's kinda like going into #gnome to post pro-Unity comments... ;-)
[13:12] <rick_h_> naw, it's a long story
[13:12] <rick_h_> but this was a while ago
[13:13] <rick_h_> snap-l remembers it I'm sure
[13:14] <wolfger> PS: I tried Xmonad last night, for a little bit. I like it for the most part....
[13:14] <rick_h_> <3
[13:14] <wolfger> only thing I don't like is, the nm-applet has no place to live
[13:14] <wolfger> so when I'm having wifi issues, I'm kinda lost
[13:14] <rick_h_> ah, in Awsome I have a tray still
[13:15] <rick_h_> so I run the nm-applet and my dropbox icon gets a home
[13:15] <wolfger> is that default behavior on Awesome, or did you set it up to be that way?
[13:16] <rick_h_> default
[13:16] <rick_h_> yea, I think in xmonad you can run a tray app
[13:17] <rick_h_> yea, with traey
[13:17] <rick_h_> trayer
[13:17] <rick_h_> http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Xmonad/Config_archive/John_Goerzen's_Configuration
[13:18] <wolfger> Good stuff. Thanks!
[13:18] <_stink_> does something like pypanel work in xmonad?
[13:18] <_stink_> at least that's what i used a couple of years ago in stumpwm.
[13:18] <_stink_> and it'll host gnome applets just fine.
[13:21] <wolfger> I'll probably give Awesome, Stumpwm, and Ion all a try (based on a random web endorsement of Ion, and a curiosity about something I've never even heard of before)
[13:27] <_stink_> wolfger: when you get around to stumpwm, let me know.  also, the version in the repo is waay out of date, so grab it from git.
[13:31] <wolfger> Heh. Somebody should file a bug to update stumpwm, then.
[13:31] <wolfger> And then package it for Ubuntu.
[13:31] <wolfger> :-)
[13:31]  * wolfger looks at _stink_
[13:34] <_stink_> o.o
[13:34] <_stink_> i've thought about it...
[13:48] <snap-l> Yeah, I remember when rick_h_ was chased from Django
[13:48] <snap-l> because he asked about using nose for testing, iirc.
[13:49] <snap-l> http://ac31004.blogspot.com/2011/03/so-you-think-you-own-your-twitter-name.html
[13:50] <rick_h_> snap-l: it was funny because the django fan at dinner was like "we use a django-nose package for that"
[13:50] <rick_h_> and I was like "I KNOW! that came out as a great feature 6mo after I was asking for help with it"
[13:50] <rick_h_> but when I wanted to do it I was a moron, don't do it
[13:50] <rick_h_> 6mo later it's a great django feature
[13:51] <snap-l> rick_h_: Yeah, NIH in action
[14:02] <shortcircuit> wolfger: There's something you said yesterday that I agreed with, but I don't remember exactly what it was.
[14:02] <shortcircuit> Something about mice and keyboard.
[14:13] <wolfger> shortcircuit: Wow, somebody agreed with something I said?
[14:14] <wolfger> I roughly said, the mouse is garbage for productivity use, but essential for leisure use
[14:15] <wolfger> If I'm working on something on my computer, I shouldn't ever have to touch the mouse, but when I'm just chillin'/surfing/being social, I should be able to do everything with one hand.
[14:16] <wolfger> ...and I want a WM that suits both those needs. There doesn't seem to be one. They all go to one extreme or the other.
[14:16] <jjesse> i use an external mouse the same way on my laptop, 90% of the time i use the laptop's mouse but when i need to get somethng done i use the external mouse, hate lifting my hand from the keyboard
[14:16] <brousch> shortcircuit is a friend of mine from over here on the west side. he runs the weekly grlug social meetings and is one of you oddball window manager guys
[14:18] <shortcircuit> wolfger: the 'awesome' wm seems to work reasonably well for me.
[14:19] <shortcircuit> If I hold the Windows key down, I can drag windows around to the tiles I want them in. Otherwise, I use keyboard shortcuts.
[14:19] <greg-g> shortcircuit: welcome to the channel
[14:19] <shortcircuit> Well, actually, I only just discovered the drag-to-tiles a minute ago. I didn't realize it worked in the tiling modes.
[14:20] <shortcircuit> Disclaimer: I'm not a real fan of Ubuntu; I tend to be among the edge case users whose apps and preferences don't work well.
[14:20] <wolfger> Hey, since greg-g started logging this room, we could find exactly what I said. :-)
[14:20] <wolfger> I'm pretty sure I said it better yesterday. Today I'm kinda busy at work :-p
[14:21] <shortcircuit> (Which is the primary reason I'm interested in helping the testing on the east side of the state)
[14:21] <shortcircuit> I'm in here because brousch told me there were some folks in here who like tiling window managers. :)
[14:21] <jjesse> we are not all ubuntu talk all the time
[14:23] <brousch> shortcircuit: if you wander back to about 8:14 this morning you can see the tiling talk
[15:00] <binbrain> quiet here this morning, everybody but me must be at pycon
[15:02] <brousch> it was noisy until 9:25
[15:02] <jjesse> we come and go
[15:02] <jjesse> based on werk
[15:11] <snap-l> or shoveling.
[15:19] <snap-l> http://img.znsinsite.com/screenshots/tech-supp-03-2011.png
[15:21] <greg-g> snap-l: http://www.ntchosting.com/apache-server-linux.html
[15:21] <greg-g> they say they use debian
[15:22] <snap-l> Yeah, but scripts? Never.
[15:22] <greg-g> yeah, they say things like "popular PHP scripts available" when talking about mediawiki/wordpress/etc
[15:22] <greg-g> it is a common word to use for "apps" in some other parts of the world
[15:23] <snap-l> Well, PHP is just a script on steroids
[15:23] <snap-l> ;)
[15:23] <greg-g> very true
[15:23] <greg-g> btw, why did I feel the need to research that?
[15:23] <greg-g> anyways... goes to a meeting
[15:24] <brousch> bad steroids, tainted with gonorrhea
[15:40] <snap-l> http://ubuntuone.com/p/hEG/
[15:40] <snap-l> Read the bottom of this
[15:53] <jrwren> php is a script on steroids???
[15:53] <jrwren> perl is a sript.
[15:53] <jrwren> python is a script.
[15:53] <jrwren> java is a script on steroids.
[15:54] <jrwren> C# and all .net languages is a script on steroids.
[15:54] <snap-l> Java is not a script, nor is C#
[15:54] <jrwren> how so?
[15:54] <snap-l> It just has a target machine that is not physical
[15:54] <jrwren> my C# is.
[15:54] <snap-l> Isn't C# compiled?
[15:54] <jrwren> so does PHP and Python
[15:54] <snap-l> Ah, I see what you're thinking. :)
[15:55] <jrwren> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=python+bytecode    ;)
[15:55] <snap-l> Yeah, scripts are a poorly-used term
[15:56] <snap-l> I've defined them as something that doesn't require a separate compile step prior to running (me personally, not the computer)
[15:56] <jrwren> poor definition.
[15:56] <wolfger> jrwren: perl is sed/awk on steroids (or so I've been told)
[15:56] <jrwren> i like hte dictionary best.
[15:57] <jrwren> wolfger: you don't know sed/awk?
[15:57] <jrwren> sed+awk=<3
[15:57] <jrwren> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=define%3Ascript  :0
[15:57] <snap-l> jrwren: Generally speaking, if I need sed / awk, I run to perl
[15:57] <snap-l> there's a few simple one-liners where I prefer sed / awk
[15:57] <jrwren> i used too, but I don't anymore.
[15:57] <snap-l> but once it grows beyond that, Perl is my poison
[15:58] <jrwren> definitely love perl.
[15:58] <wolfger> jrwren: I know them. We're not BFF's or next door neighbors, though.
[15:58] <wolfger> wolfger+perl4eva
[15:58] <jrwren> thinking about awk and bash in debian/ubuntu just makes me angry.
[15:59] <jrwren> /dev/tcp in one and not the other is stupid.
[15:59] <jrwren> proof that debianistas are stupid
[15:59] <snap-l> OK, how about General Purpose Dynamic Languages. ;)
[16:00] <jrwren> like C#?
[16:00] <snap-l> and PHP... ;)
[16:00] <jrwren> :)
[16:00]  * snap-l needs to play more with C#
[16:01] <snap-l> not that I really think it's the bee's knees, but it looks like where Java could have gone had they not thrown everything on top of it.
[16:01] <snap-l> and then sat on it, wondering why it wasn't going anywhere.
[16:01] <jrwren> "they" is hte problem with java.
[16:01] <jrwren> if brian had just kept it, it might have lived.
[16:02] <snap-l> Well, had it not become the silver bullet dujour
[16:02] <jrwren> err James rather.
[16:03] <jrwren> but maybe James could have given it to brian :)
[16:04] <jrwren> i wonder if perl would move somewhere if larry gave it away
[16:04] <snap-l> Well, if Brian was in marketing, they shouldn't have given it to him
[16:04] <jrwren> Brian Goetz?
[16:04] <snap-l> No, I mean Brian in Marketing
[16:05] <snap-l> (small attempt at humor)
[16:05] <wolfger> It's not a question of whether or not Brian has it, it's a question of whether the followers of Brian's gourd or the followers of Brian's shoe are correct. That's a nasty battle you don't want any part of.
[16:06] <jrwren> no, I think I do.
[16:06] <jrwren> its a battle that has been a non issue for Linus, Larry and Guido
[16:07] <jrwren> but in Java the players said "this could be a battle" and threw down their weapons and went home and hugged and said, "lets drink together and not be productive at all."
[16:07] <wolfger> and snap-l: wtf with that tech support snapshot?
[16:08] <snap-l> Java is what happens when you have a company try very hard to not let anyone else have fun with it's toys.
[16:08] <snap-l> wolfger: nfc. That was on reddit.
[16:08] <snap-l> But it's a really stupid answer, regardless.
[16:08] <jrwren> yeah.
[16:08] <jrwren> toys!
[16:10] <wolfger> ...and Perl is what happens when you don't lay down any hard rules about how people can play with the toys.
[16:10] <wolfger> and it's great fun.
[16:10] <wolfger> :-)
[16:10] <wolfger> just a little messy
[16:10] <jrwren> i don't think so.
[16:11] <jrwren> perl is what happens when you go home.
[16:11] <jrwren> perl hasn't changed significantly in 10 yrs.
[16:11] <jrwren> I was alluding to language changes.
[16:11] <wolfger> does it need to change?
[16:11] <jrwren> no
[16:11] <jrwren> nothing NEEDS to change :)
[16:12] <jrwren> but it should would be nice to be more efficient
[16:12] <jrwren> to get more done with less
[16:12] <wolfger> depends on your definitions of more and less
[16:12] <wolfger> I'd say Perl already lets us do more with less
[16:12] <wolfger> compared to any other language I've experienced
[16:13] <wolfger> there's other languages that do more
[16:13] <jrwren> hahaha.
[16:13] <wolfger> but certainly not with less
[16:13] <jrwren> I can't agree with that.
[16:14] <wolfger> I think the essential ingredients are missing from your statement. More *of what* with less *of what*
[16:15] <wolfger> More manipulation of text files with less lines of code? Be hard to improve over Perl 5.
[16:16] <wolfger> More maintenance of old code with less headaches? OK, Perl's majorly hurting on that one... :-p
[16:20] <greg-g> wow, my old boss is getting into the retweeting of info about the gnome/canonical craziness, retweeting this link: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2011/03/collaborations-demise.html?showComment=1299807005600#c2417381301530751354
[16:20] <greg-g> I just find it interesting that he (@rejon) is doing that, he normally doesn't too much
[16:21] <greg-g> though, that is a pretty damning comment
[16:23] <wolfger> German word of the day: schwanger
[16:24] <wolfger> means "pregnant"
[16:25] <wolfger> and somehow I knew a word like schwanger had do have something to do with sex...
[16:26] <_stink_> "Es tut mir leid, aber ich habe deinen Schwester schwanger."
[16:35] <jrwren> more of everything with less lines of code.
[16:42] <snap-l> rick_h_: How much was the printed version of the Pyramid guide?
[17:33] <snap-l> Somehow I have a feeling that Segphault is going to get his wish for a commercial company to spearhead the Linux Desktop
[17:33] <snap-l> after seeing the rift between GNOME and Ubuntu, I can see a fork coming in the near future.
[17:33] <snap-l> s/Ubuntu/Canonical/
[17:34] <wolfger> and soon we'll have Gbuntu....
[17:46] <wolfger> sounds like what you say to somebody who sneezed.... *achoo*; "Gbuntu".
[18:33] <rick_h_> snap-l: $70 :/
[18:33] <snap-l> Holy shit, that's expensive.
[18:34] <brousch> geez, is it printed by Steve Jobs himself?
[18:35] <snap-l> God, my VPN is running sllllllloooooooowwwwwwwwww
[18:36] <brousch> hey, He has a lot of things to worry about right now. your VPN is low on His list
[18:37] <snap-l> god is not an iphone. I think he can multitask. ;)
[18:38] <snap-l> > Any idea of how much it will be?
[18:38] <snap-l> Not entirely sure, but somewhere between $40-$50 likely (up to the
[18:38] <snap-l> bookseller himself).
[18:38] <snap-l> That's a little much for a book, I'm afraid
[18:38] <rick_h_> snap-l: yea
[18:38] <rick_h_> well there's a bookstore here selling them
[18:39] <rick_h_> so I think that bookstore cranked it
[18:39] <snap-l> That's what I mean
[18:39] <rick_h_> I think you can order them from the self-publish site probably for less
[18:39] <rick_h_> I really shouldn't have bought it
[18:39] <snap-l> > Any idea of how much it will be?
[18:39] <snap-l> Not entirely sure, but somewhere between $40-$50 likely (up to the
[18:39] <snap-l> bookseller himself).
[18:39] <rick_h_> the weight of this giant volume will set me over the backage weight limit
[18:39] <snap-l> Bah, sorry about that
[18:39] <snap-l> http://gobretail.com/pod.php
[18:40] <brousch> rick_h_: mail it to yourself mediamail
[18:40] <brousch> cost like $3
[18:40] <snap-l> brousch: ++
[18:41] <snap-l> or even a oriority mail medium flat rate
[18:41] <snap-l> shouldn't be more than $6.
[18:50] <wolfger> what book are we talking about?
[18:51] <brousch> wow, some of these photos are unbelievable http://news.nationalpost.com/photo_gallery/photos-massive-quake-unleashes-tsunami-on-japan/
[18:51] <wolfger> aren't they?
[18:51] <wolfger> entire buildings, on fire, floating out to sea
[18:52] <wolfger> a massive whirlpool
[18:52] <wolfger> a massive column of fire
[18:53] <brousch> don't piss off poseidon
[18:59] <brousch> ouch, a smackdown frm miguel de icaza: "notes that proprietary systems have advantages — such as video and audio systems that rarely break. 'I spent so many years battling with Linux and something new is broken every time,' he says. 'We as an open source community, we don't seem to get our act together when it comes to understanding the needs of end users on the desktop.'"
[19:01] <wolfger> Miguel++
[19:02] <wolfger> We're a bunch of itch-scratchers
[19:02] <wolfger> if a bug doesn't affect a dev directly, good luck convincing him to work on it.
[19:03] <jjesse> didn't rick_h_ say something like that earlier this week?
[19:03] <wolfger> especially when it comes to hardware driver issues... volunteer coders aren't going to go buy your laptop just to duplicate your problem and fix it.
[19:04] <wolfger> on the flip side, considering what a ragtag bunch we really are, it's damned impressive that Linux works as well as it does.
[19:05] <wolfger> Now how much of that is due to the contributions of companies like Canonical, Google, IBM, etc who have paid devs to work on things? No clue.
[19:05] <snap-l> There's definitely a lot of direction-making in those companies
[19:05] <snap-l> for good or ill
[19:08] <Milyardo> I wouldn't call any direction in a project ill, just sub-optimal
[19:08] <Milyardo> as no direction is always worst than a sub-optimal one
[19:09] <snap-l> I'd argue that bad directions are worse than no directions
[19:09] <snap-l> at least you can pull out of a non-direction.
[19:10] <snap-l> but that said, not everyone would agree on the right direction
[19:12] <wolfger> Hey, that channel-logging is good stuff. Time to fire up the Perl and do evil. }:-)
[19:16] <snap-l> Anyone have a need for any Nokia chargers?
[19:16] <snap-l> I have the one that fits the N700, and two cellphone chargers (slow)
[19:16] <snap-l> one is an in-car charger
[19:17] <snap-l> I'll pay shipping to the lower 48
[19:17] <snap-l> Just want them out of the house. ;)
[19:26] <jrwren> the flip side to that is often our itches do align with regular people and not with corporate interests.  cameras working OOTB on ubuntu but needing drivers to work on windows comes to mind.
[19:27] <jrwren> not to mention the sea of hardware that still works with linux but can't work with Windows7 because they were XP devices and vendors never made newer drivers.
[19:27] <jrwren> or the other way around where people still run XP but can't find drivers.
[19:27] <jrwren> so there is good and bad.
[19:33] <snap-l> Yeah, that's very true
[20:05] <rick_h_> ugh, of course work crap breaks while I'm afk at a conference
[20:05] <rick_h_> wheeee
[20:07] <snap-l> rick_h_: Never fails
[20:07]  * snap-l is ownloading .net microframework to check something for a customer.
[20:07] <rick_h_> so sitting in my room fixing crap
[20:07] <rick_h_> wooo! you win!
[20:10] <snap-l> yeah, especially since it needs VS to run
[20:11] <brousch> good luck with that monstrous download and install
[20:11] <snap-l> Installing the C# portion just for grins
[20:11] <snap-l> We'll see how far it goes
[20:12] <snap-l> Apparently my bitching karma is coming around to slap me. :)
[20:12] <snap-l> bitching karma: bitch about something long enough, and it becomes part of my job. :)
[20:12] <Blazeix> heh, fwiw, I like VS2010 better than eclipse.
[20:12] <snap-l> ie: bitch about java, and eventually I'll be installing Netbeans
[20:12] <Blazeix> As long as you stay away from the whole "integrated everything" stack and just code.
[20:13] <snap-l> I'm just looking to consume a wsdl to see what the error someone is getting
[20:13] <snap-l> and see if they're doing something wonky.
[20:13] <snap-l> no  development for me
[20:14] <Blazeix> uhoh, consuming wsdl is the start of the integrated everything route
[20:14] <snap-l> yeah, figures. :)
[20:14]  * snap-l wishes he had a VM for Windows
[20:15] <Blazeix> you were complaining a while back about VB, right? Be careful.
[20:15] <snap-l> I will quit
[20:15] <snap-l> also, thank you for reminding karma of that
[20:15] <Blazeix> heh.
[20:15] <snap-l> I hope you have a couch that I can sleep on
[20:16] <snap-l> and of course, I'm over at my parents while JoDee does laundry, using up their 1.5Mbps DSL
[20:27] <Milyardo> I think its time I upgraded from my Dream soon, but I'm not sure what I should get
[20:27] <Milyardo> I was thinking maybe the Nexus S?
[20:28] <Milyardo> Not sure whats the best Android phone on the market at the moment
[20:29] <Blazeix> when I was browsing android phones I liked phandroid.com
[20:29] <Milyardo> Or even the better custom ROMs either, Dream development has really slowed down
[20:34] <Blazeix> I've been running the cyanogenmod 7 nightlies for a while. I highly recommend it.
[20:34] <Milyardo> For the Dream?
[20:34] <Milyardo> I didn't think cyanogen did dream nightlys anymore
[20:34] <Blazeix> hm, looks like it isn't available for the dream :(
[20:34] <Milyardo> Yeah
[20:36] <brousch> i really need to try CM
[20:39] <snap-l> Only Microsoft would require you to restart your machine to install a fucking IDE.
[20:40] <snap-l> Fuck me for being productive.
[20:40] <brousch> if you're lucky you'll only need 1 reboot
[20:40] <snap-l> not helping. :)
[20:41] <jjesse> dont forget all the updates
[20:41] <snap-l> Hey, lookie thar... http://j.mp/eTicd4
[20:42] <snap-l> Twitter doesn't care about app people.
[20:46] <Milyardo> Translations:Advertisers on our network don't like it when they aren't seen in trending streams on 3rd party clients, so we're going to display all that suff for you!
[20:48] <snap-l> Well, when your favorite android app breaks because Twitter says it should say "favorite" instead of "like", just remember that identi.ca don't care. ;)
[20:52] <jcastro> right, instead you'd get flamed for using seesmic because it isn't floss
[21:08] <snap-l> jcastro: and you can't say "fuck 'em?"
[21:09] <greg-g> silently ignore
[21:09] <snap-l> that's what the block button is for
[21:09] <snap-l> keeps the fucknuts at bay.
[21:10] <greg-g> hah
[21:10] <brousch> but i can follow you and greg-g on twitter. all the rest are fucknuts, so who needs identica?
[21:13] <greg-g> there are a few people on identi.ca who aren't on twitter that I wish to follow, friends and other foss geeks that aren't fucknuts
[21:15] <snap-l> yeah, same here
[21:15] <snap-l> and I care about openness on the platform
[21:16] <snap-l> http://scripting.com/stories/2011/03/11/twittersNewDeveloperRoadma.html
[21:16] <snap-l> 1. If you make a Twitter client, you have a bit of time to get out of that business. If you were thinking about writing one, don't.
[21:19] <snap-l> jcastro: Are you going to see Rush next month?
[21:22] <snap-l> *sigh*
[21:23] <snap-l> jrwren: You're a better man than I, because I can't figure this shit out
[21:23] <snap-l> what to download, etc.
[21:24] <brousch> snap-l: it's almost as bad as eclipse
[21:25] <brousch> then the fact that you're using windows and microsoft software makes it worse
[21:25] <snap-l> that's damning
[21:29] <snap-l> brillant... I can't get a copy of Visual Studio 2008 Express.
[21:30] <snap-l> It's only 2010, and the micro framework SDK that I downloaded only works with 2008-2010, or 2008 express.
[21:34] <greg-g> http://evan.status.net/conversation/717972  "I bet if we cut this goose open we can get all the gold out without having to wait for each egg!"
[21:35] <greg-g> btw, THAT LINK is why I love statusnet and will stay with it. Do you see what is happening there? StatusNet is forcing twitter to have conversation view. Ingenious. Pretty. Needed.
[21:35] <greg-g> now, we'll see if it can still do this in 6 months, but for now it is the best thing since sliced bread
[21:43] <snap-l> greg-g: Yep, that's a lifesaver, especially when someone you respect says something like "@person: Yep, I couldn't agree more!"
[21:43] <snap-l> Couldn't agree more on what?
[21:44] <snap-l> global warming? OSS use in education? Sarah Palin is an escaped insane asulum patient?
[21:45] <greg-g> :)
[21:45] <snap-l> timmy fell down a well?
[21:45] <snap-l> what, boy, speak!
[21:46] <rick_h_> snap-l: getting our podcast some love
[21:46] <snap-l> rick_h_: Awesome. What do I have to edit? :)
[21:46] <rick_h_> Amber is down here, chat with her for a bit and she got us another interview person
[21:46] <snap-l> Awesomesauce.
[21:46] <rick_h_> nothing yet, will see about my nightly tonight, but looks like joint recording stuff will be sunday
[21:46] <rick_h_> with the FPIP guys
[21:46] <greg-g> rock!
[21:46] <rick_h_> and then after that will be sprint stuff
[21:47] <snap-l> Awesome... Ididn't know that the First phillipine industrial park was using python
[21:47] <rick_h_> we also chat about getting some linkage on some of the stuff she's working on
[21:47] <snap-l> (and no, I didn't know what you meant until about the 4th link)
[21:51] <brousch> hootsuite gives twitter conversation view ;)
[22:08] <rick_h_> greg-g: ping
[22:08] <rick_h_> who was the openstack community guy you were checking the newsletter for?
[22:09] <greg-g> rick_h_: well, I was doing it out of my own interest, but the guy who mans @openstack_com_manger or some such crappy twitter name
[22:09] <rick_h_> ok, I think I'm sitting with him at an openspace bof for openstack
[22:09] <rick_h_> you ever send that feedback in? Or I'll just not bring it up
[22:10] <greg-g> Stephen Spector
[22:10] <greg-g> I didn't bring it up with him
[22:10] <rick_h_> k, just checking
[22:10] <greg-g> but feel free to (but mention my name, please, I'm trying to get some connections there)
[22:11] <rick_h_> k
[22:11] <greg-g> @opnstk_com_mgr
[22:14]  * greg-g goes home
[23:13] <rick_h_> greg-g: ping
[23:59] <rick_h_> Tiling BoF at 8pm woo!