[00:00] <doug9> How to configure Engenius 3550 to Ubuntu?
[00:00] <andai> thanks eddie
[00:00] <Jordan_U> I am getting an odd problem that seems to only occur when using USB devices that transfer "signifigant" amounts of data, i.e. drives and a USB 3G dongle and likely anything other than a simple keyboard and mouse. The problem is the my system load increases drastically untill I eventually need to reboot. How can I check if this is a hardware issue as it seems to be?
[00:02] <phoenixsampras> how to count the amount of files on a directory?
[00:02] <raido> Jordan_U: It might be interesting to boot a live CD and try to get the same result
[00:03] <dejan_> hi, how to acces packet manager synaptic?
[00:03] <raido> Jordan_U: You cole use 2-3 differnt versions and kernel versions to see if they all do it.
[00:03] <alphonso> does anyone have any recommendations on the cleanest way to run a command (as root) at startup?  ubuntu 10.10
[00:03] <Polah> Dejan_: You mean Synaptic Package Manager. Also, System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[00:03] <Ben64> phoenixsampras: find | wc -l
[00:03] <raido> phoenixsampras: ls -l | wc -l
[00:03] <dejan_> yes
[00:03] <Jordan_U> raido: I have and they all do. I'll try with a LiveCD.
[00:03] <dejan_> thak you
[00:03] <phoenixsampras> raido:  Ben64 thank you gurus
[00:04] <Ben64> phoenixsampras: mine counts recursively, and includes directories
[00:04] <lighta> alphonso, make a bash file ?
[00:04] <inside-out-bunny> alphonso: write a script, put it in /etc/rc.local
[00:04] <alphonso> lighta: no - just want to run /opt/lampp/lampp start to start my dev lampp environment
[00:05] <raido> Jordan_U: Id say you have some faulty hardware if you get the same on the live CDS too.
[00:05] <raido> Jordan_U: Is this s desktop?
[00:05] <dejan_> I installed apache 2.2 but i am not sure how some guy told me from terminal now i want to delete it and install it through packet manager what should i do ?
[00:05] <Jordan_U> raido: Yes.
[00:05] <maxb> My Firefox top-right search box seems to have been forcibly changed from Google to Ask.com with the latest update ?!  Is this known to happen?
[00:05] <raido> Jordan_U: You could try getting an ad in card to slove it
[00:05] <lighta> hmm if is just lap you want to start automatically you can put in in init.d no ? no script to write
[00:06] <dejan_> can anyoe guide me to remove and reinstall apache?
[00:06] <Eighteens> i just installed sendmail, and it's working, I actually got the mail in my inbox, however it took the form like 2 minutes before the page refreshes, and gives confirmation that the mail was sent using the mailform, doesn anyone have a solution as to why sendmail is going so slow
[00:06] <dejan_> it appears installed on Synaptic Package Manager but I installed it through terminal I want to reinstall it through SYPM
[00:06] <alphonso> inside-out-bunny: forgive my noob-ness - but my rc.local file contains logic (a do start statement) do i put the command before that logic?
[00:07] <dejan_> i just installed ubuntu
[00:07] <phoenixsampras> gratz and rocks
[00:07] <inside-out-bunny> alphonso: what does it have in there? by default it should just have comments and an exit statement
[00:07] <Ben64> dejan_: why would you not want to use the one from synaptic?
[00:08] <raido> dejan_: they use the same backend, if SPM shows it installed then your good to go
[00:08] <inside-out-bunny> alphonso: either way it doesn't matter where you put it in rc.local as long as it's before the exit statement.
[00:08] <Ben64> oh i read that wrong
[00:08] <dejan_> it appears i have installed (in Synaptic) : Apache2, Apache 2.2-bin, Apache 2.2-common,  Apache mpm-worker
[00:08] <foureight84> hey guys
[00:08] <dejan_> I select all and complete removal or?
[00:08] <dejan_> I want to delete them
[00:08] <foureight84> do you know how one would go about accessing a cellular carrier's wap website?
[00:08] <alphonso> inside-out-bunny: looks like a do start block with an if/fi condition followed by a case statement with two cases
[00:08] <dejan_> and then install them through Synaptic
[00:08] <raido> dejan_: no. its pointless, youve already installed it
[00:08] <dejan_> i have instaleld them from terminal somehow one guy told me
[00:09] <dejan_> but
[00:09] <alphonso> inside-out-bunny: i didn't alter this - not sure why it doesn't look like the default
[00:09] <inside-out-bunny> alphonso: this isn't a machine you installed/set up?
[00:09] <dejan_> why are so many apache2 apache 2.2 apache 2.2-bin -comon -worker?
[00:09] <dejan_> what are they all ? :S
[00:09] <alphonso> inside-out-bunny: yes, i set it up
[00:09] <inside-out-bunny> dejan_: big packages come in separate pieces
[00:09] <rusopro> hello
[00:09] <dejan_> to remove apache 2.2 i have to remove completely all or?
[00:09] <dejan_> so
[00:09] <inside-out-bunny> alphonso: would you mind pasting it somewhere?
[00:09] <dejan_> :S
[00:09] <dejan_> i am not sure iff I have isntalled right
[00:10] <dejan_> dont wat my server to be hacked :S
[00:10] <raido> dejan_: Its fine.
[00:10] <dejan_> so re these normal and complete all packages for apache 2.2?
[00:10] <inside-out-bunny> alphonso: but either way-- rc.local is just the last thing executed when you boot up.
[00:10] <dejan_> Apache2, Apache 2.2-bin, Apache 2.2-common,  Apache mpm-worker
[00:10] <Ben64> dejan_: using the terminal to install stuff is the same as synaptic
[00:10] <dejan_> apache2-utils
[00:10] <dejan_> ok then
[00:11] <rusopro> hello
[00:11] <dejan_> Ben64: can I use terminal to install stuff in a bad way?
[00:11] <alphonso> inside-out-bunny: sending you the file
[00:12] <Ben64> dejan_: synaptic is just a front end for apt-get, if you used apt-get to install in on the terminal, it works the exact same way
[00:13] <inside-out-bunny> alphonso: just pastebin it somewhere
[00:13] <alphonso> inside-out-bunny: paste it in chat?
[00:13] <Midler> HI
[00:13] <Midler> I have a question
[00:13] <Ben64> alphonso: pastebin.com
[00:13] <inside-out-bunny> http://goo.gl/ixcN9
[00:14] <Midler> the thing is, iam gonna have a computer that runs different games by different logins
[00:14] <Eighteens> is postfix faster than sendmail, anyone?
[00:14] <Midler> example warsow for the user warsow
[00:14] <inside-out-bunny> Eighteens: doesn't matter unless you're sending millions of msg's per sec
[00:14] <Midler> is there anyone that can help me with the logout when exiting the program
[00:14] <inside-out-bunny> Midler: why?
[00:14] <Midler> and should i use gnome sessions
[00:15] <alphonso> inside-out-bunny: http://pastebin.com/J9QCzpZ9
[00:15] <Midler> inside-out-bunny: its meant to be a testing pc
[00:15] <Midler> inside-out-bunny: they will be able to play games and only games
[00:15] <Eighteens> inside-out-bunny, for some reason a mail form i use takes about 2 minutes before confirmation is given that the mail was sent, and the same mailform was used on another server, and it was really fast, just wondering what the delay is
[00:15] <Midler> user warsow -> login -> play warsow -> exit warsow [logout user warsow]
[00:16] <alphonso> ben64: thanks
[00:16] <inside-out-bunny> Eighteens: that's not a performance issue.  both sendmail and postfix are capable of sending/spamming millions per second
[00:17] <dejan_> can someone guide me to install php o ubuntu apache
[00:17] <dejan_> i just installed ubuntu for first time im using linux
[00:17] <dejan_> i must install apache-prefork-dev?
[00:17] <inside-out-bunny> Midler: perhaps put 'exec /path/to/warsow' in their .xsession?
[00:17] <alphonso> dejan: you can use xampp
[00:17] <alphonso> dejan: go to apachefriends.org
[00:17] <dejan_> alphonso:  no no i ont want xamp
[00:17] <Midler> hmm, thanks i guess
[00:17] <dejan_> no o..
[00:17] <dejan_> :S
[00:17] <Midler> i will look it up
[00:18] <dejan_> i have apache
[00:18] <dejan_> now i must install prefork-dev?
[00:18] <alphonso> dejan: what do you want to do?
[00:18] <dejan_> or o
[00:18] <cronus_> dejan_, try sudo tasksel and select LAMP server
[00:18] <FloodBot3> dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:18] <dejan_> install php
[00:18] <dejan_> i have apache
[00:18] <rooferdave> take a look can u help me with this error im compiling a kernel and get this at the end just before making modules, ....http://pastebin.com/FTfHhJQY
[00:18] <dejan_> tell me do i need this apache2-prefork-dev?
[00:19] <alphonso> dejan: php interpreter is installed automatically w/ a lampp stack if you don't want to use xampp, there are others you can try
[00:19] <dejan_> no no lamp xamp pls..
[00:19] <dejan_> lol..
[00:19] <soreau> why is it that totem even offers to search for plugins/codecs for dvd's? It's always going to fail so why does it even try
[00:19] <dejan_> i know how to install phpsql i am not new
[00:19] <dejan_> i just am new to ubuntu..
[00:19] <KM0201> soreau: install DVD codecs, and it won't do it anymore
[00:20] <dejan_> tell me I have apache 2.2 do i need apache2-prefork-dev to install php?
[00:20] <soreau> KM0201: Right, but it doesn't tell you to do that. It just says -failed- and looks poor doing it
[00:20] <dejan_> because it says : This should only be used when you absolutely *must* support a non-threaded
[00:20] <dejan_> environment (for PHP, for example).
[00:21] <KM0201> soreau: dunno.. i usually just install ubuntu-restricted-extras, it all works out.
[00:21] <rnigam> People trying to install openmp on Maverick. Can't remember the package name. Any suggestions? Already tried 'apt-get install libgomp'
[00:22] <alphonso> inside-out-bunny: did you get that paste? http://pastebin.com/J9QCzpZ9
[00:23] <alphonso> dejan: did you get an answer to your php question?
[00:23] <tripelbb> hello.actionparsnip -- the phone I was having trouble with wont get recognized in Windows either. It says, reconnect and if that doesnt work, replace the device. (I changed the USB port and the connector cable). I am now still in Windows. Any suggestions?
[00:24] <tripelbb> How can I ask when ActionParsnip last spoke in this channel?
[00:25] <Polah> Tripelbb: Scroll up
[00:25] <induz> hello
[00:25] <induz> how can I setup Outlook on wine, its not getting mail server??
[00:26] <induz> gmail server setting fails on wine
[00:26] <induz> anyone uses wine here??
[00:26] <bastidrazor>   induz then use evolution that does fine with gmail
[00:26] <aeon-ltd> induz: better off asking in #wine
[00:27] <tripelbb> Pola, I just joined. Backscroll is 3 minutes.
[00:27] <tripelbb> pola, another server I frequestn can do it with !seen nickname
[00:28] <arand> tripelbb: 75min
[00:28] <induz> what should be the incoming mail server for gmail??
[00:29] <tripelbb> arand thanks.
[00:29] <pkh> is it possible to force an application to only see a given network interface (e.g. tun0)
[00:29] <tripelbb> -- the phone I was having trouble with (yesterday in Ubuntu and in #ubuntu) wont get recognized in Windows either. It says, reconnect and if that doesnt work, replace the device. (I changed the USB port and the connector cable). I am now still in Windows. Any suggestions?
[00:30] <bastidrazor> !gmail | induz
[00:30] <bastidrazor> induz: the same settigns can be used in any email client.
[00:30] <alphonso> test
[00:31] <tripelbb> induz: did you try pop.gmail.com  (I can look it up)
[00:31] <_eclark> Are there any ubuntu amazon ami's for Cluster Computer nodes ?
[00:32] <induz> what should be smpt server port
[00:32] <induz> yes i have tried pop the gmai'
[00:32] <induz>  as 993 is port of imapi what should be outgoing port??
[00:33] <tripelbb> induz http://www.emailaddressmanager.com/tips/mail-settings.html
[00:33] <AnubArack> so I used this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1O1R2-rdEU to change my login screen theme ... now how do i stop the theme chooser from appearing every time  I boot ?
[00:34] <alphonso> anyone know how to request a voice in another channel?
[00:34] <peugi> anyone using pinax blog app?
[00:34] <skullboy> where is the tty7 config
[00:34] <itaylor57> KM0201: I tried to tell them at work that I was "allergic" to Microsoft products, so I needed to use open source, didn't work LOL
[00:34] <KM0201> itaylor57: lol.. well, you get an A+ for trying
[00:35] <alphonso> itaylor57: i'm going to try that at my work
[00:35] <tripelbb> induz Google Gmail Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP): smtp.gmail.com The Gmail SMTP server requires authentication (use the same settings as for the incoming mail server) The Google Gmail SMTP Server requires an encrypted connection (SSL) on port 465.
[00:35] <induz> ok so 993 and 465
[00:35] <tripelbb> induz, is that right?
[00:36]  * tripelbb must change clients
[00:36] <smart> i don't know
[00:36] <induz> yes
[00:36] <smart> whois
[00:37] <induz> yes 993 for incoming and 465 for outoing
[00:38] <andrew_46> induz: Which email client are you using?
[00:38] <induz> gmail
[00:38] <induz> and trying to setup otlook
[00:38] <induz> outlook2007
[00:38] <induz> with wine
[00:40] <bousselham_> Hi
[00:40] <induz> wine and outlook 2007 have some problem
[00:41] <induz> or I didt get it right?/
[00:41] <bousselham_> hi
[00:41] <induz> does anyone here use wine and outlook??
[00:41] <skullboy> where is the tty7 config
[00:42] <Elitestatus> need some help with a problem :(
[00:42] <drc> induz: you've been having problems with gmail & imap for day, with every email client one can suggest.  I'd say it pretty sure it's you.
[00:42] <bousselham_> i use wine but i never try to install msoffice before
[00:42] <Elitestatus> i've still got the fixed channel -1 problem and the ignore commands works but when attempting the fake auth it just doesnt work
[00:42] <induz> i was having no problem with ThunderBird but i wanted the look of outlook on it and i got screwed
[00:42] <bousselham_> how know programming rpc with c
[00:43] <induz> now outlook is not working on my wine
[00:43] <rww> wine :(
[00:43] <Elitestatus> anyone?
[00:43] <drc> induz: still you
[00:43] <skullboy> where is the tty7 config
[00:43]  * drc is tired of whiners and losers
[00:43] <induz> drc, it was working fine on TB
[00:44] <skullboy> drv | !lang
[00:44] <skullboy> drc | !lang
[00:44] <Elitestatus> can anyone help me with my problem?
[00:44] <skullboy> drc | !language
[00:44] <Polah> Elitestatus: what is your problem with?
[00:44] <Elitestatus> i've still got the fixed channel -1 problem and the ignore commands works but when attempting the fake auth it just doesnt work
[00:44] <xeon> soy novato en ubuntu pero mol
[00:44] <xeon> aa
[00:45] <xrdodrx> !es | xeon
[00:45] <Polah> Elitestatus: With what? I don't know what you're talking about...
[00:45] <xeon> alone girl in tha home
[00:45] <itaylor57> KM0201: can't wait my birthday is in april and I get to upgrade to new version, best bday ever
[00:45] <rusopro> hello
[00:45] <KM0201> itaylor57: new version of what?
[00:45] <Polah> itaylor57: Natty comes out in April?
[00:45] <Elitestatus> when i try to fix to an ap i get fixed channel mode: -1
[00:45] <KM0201> oh wait, duh
[00:45] <KM0201> lol
[00:45] <Elitestatus> which makes the fakeauth command not work
[00:46] <xeon> cam
[00:46] <skullboy> where is the tty7 config
[00:46] <KM0201> Polah: yes... 11.04 (2011, 4th month)
[00:46] <xrdodrx> itaylor57, the gift that keeps on giving :D (ubuntu usually has a release in April)
[00:46] <Polah> Neato
[00:46] <zach> ubottu, que necisitas?
[00:46] <speedrunnerG55> i have a 40 Gb HDD i cant see in places. i tried reformatting it but i still dont see it
[00:46] <speedrunnerG55> what should i do
[00:46] <skullboy> where is the tty7 config
[00:46] <KM0201> Polah: thats how all the ubuntu version numbers are used... ubuntu 6.06 (2006, 6th month) an so forth
[00:46] <speedrunnerG55> i saw it in disc utility thats how i reformoted it
[00:46] <Elitestatus> so i get agnored :(
[00:47] <Polah> Speedrunnerg55: What do you mean you can't see them?
[00:47] <Cody3290> can ubuntu run .rpm files?
[00:47] <pkh> speedrunnerG55, go and buy yourself a new disk
[00:47] <KM0201> !rpm | Cody3290
[00:47] <Polah> KM0201: Oh, I didn't know that. I thought it was just X.04 and X.10 just as a trend
[00:47] <KM0201> Cody3290: what are you trying to install from RPM?
[00:47] <Cody3290> Java
[00:47] <KM0201> Polah: nope, there's a method to the madness
[00:47] <Polah> KM0201: The more you know (:
[00:47] <Cody3290> I would use the second one then, right?
[00:47] <KM0201> Cody3290: you don't need an RPM to install java, stop making it more difficult than it needs to be
[00:47] <Cody3290> http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en&host=www.java.com
[00:48] <Cody3290> I only was asking if I should use the first or second. thank you
[00:48] <KM0201> !java | Cody3290
[00:48] <skullboy> where is the tty7 config
[00:48] <Cody3290> ty
[00:48] <skullboy> where is the tty7 config
[00:48] <Elitestatus> Dont you just love it when people ignore you.....
[00:48] <skullboy> no
[00:49] <Polah> Elite: I can't help you and evidently no one else can just now. Be patient and someone may appear that can. If we could we would but we can't so we won't
[00:49] <Elitestatus> ok, i thought you guys had a fix for the fixed channel: -1 thing
[00:50] <skullboy> where is the tty7 config
[00:50] <Polah> Elitestatus: If I did I would tell you, but frankly I've no idea what you're on about
[00:50] <Polah> !repeat | skullboy
[00:50] <wxf> hello,everyone
[00:51] <skullboy> hi
[00:51] <skullboy> how r u
[00:51] <alphonso> does anyone know how to unlock a keyring via the command line?
[00:51] <aroman> hi, how can I set docky to start on login? gconf?
[00:51] <Cody3290> Am I correct in assuming that minecraft cannot work without sun JVM?
[00:51] <Elitestatus> Polah: also when scanning for networks for does it show stations not assoiated, i.e its showwing the people, just not what router there connected to
[00:51] <itaylor57> Cody3290: that would be correct
[00:53] <Polah> Cody3290: You can use OpenJDK as well
[00:54] <rww> Cody3290: It works with OpenJDK. In my experience, it works a lot better in Sun Java.
[00:54] <bastidrazor> aroman: docky has the option to run on startup in its preferences
[00:54] <alphonso> anyone know how to unlock a keyring from the command line?
[00:54] <Polah> rww: I've not experienced any major problems. Sometimes a key will continue to register as being pressed but apart from that it runs fine
[00:55] <itaylor57> well I stand corrected
[00:55] <tripelbb> I have a phone with a usb cable. last night it gave errors and would not connect. today I tried it in windows, XP said unplug and try again or else replace device. Any suggestions? (I'm still in WIndows. any suggestions before I return to ubuntu that is.)
[00:55] <xrdodrx> tripelbb, It's the phone, most likely.
[00:56] <dejan_> how i edit files with root privileges?
[00:56] <dejan_> text file i need to edit it
[00:56] <alexanderbandukw> anyone know a good server app for managing a todolist
[00:56] <xrdodrx> dejan_, gksu gedit /path/to/file
[00:57] <xrdodrx> dejan_, or sudo nano if you so choose :)
[00:57] <dejan_> xrdodrx: thaks but gksu and gksudo is same?
[00:57] <xrdodrx> dejan_, yes
[00:57] <dejan_> i broke my apache 2.2 somehow :S
[00:57] <dejan_> i have edit apache2.conf to add soe lies the i believe i delete them
[00:58] <dejan_> and saved
[00:58] <dejan_> and now i cant start it :S
[00:58] <dejan_> can you help?
[00:58] <Ycarene> How hard is it to transition to ossv4 from pulse/alsa in maveric?
[00:58] <speedrunnerG55> Polah in places
[00:58] <xrdodrx> dejan_, sorry, I don't know anything about apache. Try asking here or #apache
[00:58] <speedrunnerG55> Polah?
[00:58] <speedrunnerG55> Polah!
[00:58] <tomasm-> is there a way to filter software on the software center so i see only whats installed in a certain category (ie games installed)? fedora's software manager is so easy =(
[00:59] <dejan_> what is these lines? are they normal for apache2.conf i default ubutu istallation of apache2.2 ? #
[00:59] <dejan_> User apache
[00:59] <dejan_> Group apache
[00:59] <xrdodrx> tomasm-, the software center is meant to be simple :) if you want more ways to sort and manage packages, try using synaptic
[00:59] <dejan_> to completely remove it and install it i remove everything from synaptic that has apache name? :S
[00:59] <dejan_> and then what to install? :S
[01:00] <dejan_> pls
[01:00] <dejan_> apache 2.2
[01:00] <speedrunnerG55> Polah!!!!!!!!!1
[01:00] <FloodBot3> dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:00] <speedrunnerG55> where are you!!
[01:00] <tomasm-> xrdodrx, thanks
[01:00] <xrdodrx> tomasm-, no problem :D
[01:00] <xrdodrx> !attitude | speedrunnerG55
[01:01] <xrdodrx> He may have stepped out for a bit :)
[01:01] <tomasm-> whats this multiverse/universe thing?
[01:01] <xrdodrx> tomasm-, extra software packages for Ubuntu not officially supported by Canonical
[01:01] <tomasm-> whats the difference between multiverse and universe?
[01:02] <hanif> hi
[01:02] <xrdodrx> Multiverse is non-free software and universe is free software (where free is free as in freedom)
[01:03] <Krycek> Oo
[01:04] <hodd> I notice the keyboard speed is slower on linux
[01:04] <hodd> on windows is faster
[01:04] <xrdodrx> hodd, the keyboard "speed"?
[01:04] <hodd> xrdodrx: yes
[01:05] <xrdodrx> hodd, elaborate
[01:07] <Cody3290> how do I run a .jar on ubuntu?
[01:07] <[segfault]> hodd: perhaps you mean the repeat rate and delay?  you can change these under System/Preferences/Keyboard.
[01:07] <surreal7z> hodd, you are saying that you can type paster in windows than in ubuntu?... it simply can't be true.
[01:07] <surreal7z> faster*
[01:08] <Jerkman> anyone know of a good multiplayer console rpg/dungeon game
[01:08] <dejan_> can you help me little i am trying to remove completely and install again apache 2.2
[01:08] <dejan_> what packages i remove?
[01:08] <hoddd> so ya, anyone notice the slower keyboard response in linux?
[01:08] <Polah> dejan_: sudo apt-get remove apache
[01:09] <Polah> It will remove apache and sudo apt-get autoremove after will remove all it's dependencies
[01:09] <dejan_> hoddd check settings i think when you move mouse keyboard is locked check in setting tht optionn
[01:09] <Joi_> testes
[01:09] <Polah> sudo apt-get remove -purge apache will remove configuration for it as well, I believe
[01:09] <patricklandry2> can anyone here help find the best package and frontend for connecting my windows mobile device
[01:09] <dejan_> so how i remove apache 2.2 compeltely pls
[01:10] <dejan_> and then istall it again completely
[01:10] <dejan_> :S
[01:10] <hoddd> no no its just in general
[01:10] <hoddd> if you type fast in linux its not the same as in windows
[01:10] <hoddd> especially if you use cpas lock
[01:10] <hoddd> caps
[01:10] <dejan_> its something with your pc
[01:10] <dejan_> liux is way faster
[01:11] <hoddd> do you know what im talking about dajhorn
[01:11] <dejan_> so i removed apache with sudo
[01:11] <dejan_> now i reinstall pc?
[01:11] <xptical> Does anyone know what part of Compiz breaks the username/logoff button area?
[01:11] <dejan_> restart *
[01:11] <hwilde> how to launch System -> Applications -> Software Sources from the command line ?
[01:11] <dejan_> then install apache or?
[01:11] <tomasm-> when i start firefox, the window is totally white, though when i click, it responds...any idea whats wrong?
[01:11] <dejan_> hoddd: linux in general is waaaaaaay faster then win
[01:11] <dejan_> hoddd: do you made swap file?
[01:12] <KM0201> hwilde: software sources is a GUI tool, why don't you just edit your source list from command line, either w/ gedit, or nano, or whatever?
[01:12] <dejan_> how i istall apache 2.2 now :S
[01:12] <hoddd> ya the operating system is fast
[01:12] <dejan_> should i restart pc because i removed apahe
[01:12] <hoddd> but the keyboard typing has a delay
[01:12] <hwilde> KM0201, becaues I want it to select the fast one and I don't know the name.
[01:12] <bastidrazor> hwilde: gksudo software-center
[01:12] <KM0201> hwilde: well do you have software sources in system/admin?
[01:12] <surreal7z> hoddd, type something in windows.... you need 10 sec do type that.... than type that in ubuntu... it will still be 10 seconds
[01:12] <bastidrazor> hwilde: err..
[01:13] <yenn_2001> hola
[01:13] <m4v>  /wi yenn_2001
[01:13]  * thekkid fail
[01:13] <dejan_> pls how can I install apache 2.2 on ubuntu ?
[01:13] <bastidrazor> hwilde: gksudo software-properties-gtk
[01:14] <hwilde> bastidrazor, ahh yes
[01:14] <KM0201> bastidrazor: or, he can just add software sources to his admin menu... don't see any real reason to start that from command line
[01:14] <Leopsx> boa Noite..........
[01:14] <yenn_2001> alguien en espanol
[01:14] <hwilde> KM0201, you are not helping so just move on
[01:14] <KM0201> hwilde: you're not making sense..
[01:14] <hwilde> don't harass the person who actually gave me the right answer.
[01:14] <bastidrazor> KM0201: yes he could, but his questino was how to run from command line.
[01:14] <dejan_> anyone how to install apache 2.2 ?
[01:14] <hoddd> ... surreal7z not really. For example when I use caps lock instead of shift to start out a sentance with a capital letter, it messes up on linux
[01:15] <hoddd> try it
[01:15] <alphur> what date does karmic reach eol?
[01:15] <KM0201> bastidrazor: nothing like trying to dig a hole with a nail file.. :)
[01:15] <fez> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1024 count=1000000 && sudo mkswap /swapfile && sudo echo "/swapfile none swap sw 0 0" >> /etc/fstab && swapon /swapfile
[01:15] <alphur> exact date, number and month
[01:16] <yenn2001> guien me puede ayudar
[01:16] <KM0201> !eol | alphonso
[01:16] <KM0201> alphur: see above
[01:16] <dejan_> i need apache 2.2 php 5 ad mysql
[01:16] <dejan_> anyone to help me?
[01:16] <hwilde> KM0201, change your tab complete to Last Spoke instead of alphabetical.
[01:16] <KM0201> hwilde: fix your software problem, let me worry about my chat client
[01:17] <alphur> so april what?
[01:17] <hwilde> KM0201, you think you are so smart but you can't even tab complete the right person
[01:17] <KM0201> alphur: usually the middle of the month.
[01:17] <hunterm> dear #ubuntu
[01:17] <hunterm> the link to the natty beta 1 is broken
[01:18] <bastidrazor> hunterm: #ubuntu+1 may be able to help
[01:18] <KM0201> hwilde: lol, ok man.. like i said, i've been here far longer, and probably contributed more to this channel than you will in your life, so move alone
[01:18] <nodelover> how to make  textmate like editor in ubuntu?
[01:18] <hunterm> ah, thankyou
[01:18] <KM0201> hwilde: and who said i couldn't configure it?...
[01:18] <Leopsx> oi
[01:18] <[segfault]> !es | yenn2001
[01:18] <Logan_> !code | nodelover
[01:19] <Leopsx> oi
[01:19] <nodelover> how to make  textmate like editor in ubuntu?
[01:19] <nodelover> how to make  textmate like editor in ubuntu?
[01:19] <Leopsx> oi
[01:19] <nodelover> how to make  textmate like editor in ubuntu?
[01:19] <BaKeR> Do i have to apply ubuntu system updates?
[01:20] <Blue1> i can't get to my inbox in thunderbird.  it's there but I can't access it.
[01:20] <KM0201> BaKeR: no... just hit install, an it will do its thing
[01:20] <alphonso> ubotto: thanks, why are you telling me about end of life?
[01:20] <Blue1> messages come in and go into the inbox, it just won't let me display it.
[01:20] <hwilde> alphonso, you can just ignore that, KM0201 doesn't know how to tab complete :)
[01:20] <BaKeR> yeah cause it runs smoother for me without those updates
[01:20] <KM0201> alphonso: you can ignore hwilde, he doesn't know... anything.
[01:21] <Jerkman> lol km0201
[01:21] <BaKeR> KM0201: do i have to turn it off/ will it autmaticaly  update?
[01:21] <Logan_> !what | alphonso
[01:21] <alphonso> lol
[01:21] <BaKeR> i already did a clean install
[01:22] <alphonso> ok, who is not a bot here?
[01:22] <KM0201> BaKeR: you'll get a window "update manager" that pops up (or you can run it from system/admin)... it will check for updates, then just click install, and it will install and apply them
[01:22] <xrdodrx> alphonso, everyone except floodbot and ubottu we hope :P
[01:22] <hwilde> BaKeR, system -> admin -> update manager -> settings button at the bottom
[01:23] <alphonso> lol... i'm trying to unlock a password remotely from the command line.  whenever i restart my server, i can't connect via vino until the default password is unlocked
[01:23] <BaKeR> What im trying to say is i already had Ubuntu 10.10 installed with the sytem updates
[01:23] <patricklandry2> can anyone here help me with getting the right package and frontend to connect my windows mobile device?
[01:23] <BaKeR> but it runs smother without it the system updates
[01:23] <Logan_> !windows mobile | patricklandry2
[01:23] <BaKeR> so i did a clean install without the updates
[01:24] <hwilde> BaKeR, go where I just said in the settings and you can configure auto updating
[01:24] <KM0201> BaKeR: ok, so install updates
[01:24] <rcmaehl> Okay
[01:24] <patricklandry2> thank you
[01:24] <BaKeR> and woundering if i have to update
[01:24] <rcmaehl> MY pc doesn't seem to want to start gdm on start up however i don't know how to fix this. How do I?
[01:24] <BaKeR> if i install the updates it will run slower
[01:24] <BaKeR> like login in
[01:24] <di_giorgio> Mp3player [Capital Inicial - Vivendo e Aprendendo] CeBoLiNhA 2011
[01:25] <KM0201> BaKeR: then the better solution is to investigate why that is happening, rather than not updating... what are your system specs
[01:25] <rcmaehl> BaKeR: Yep
[01:25] <Logan_> di_giorgio: please turn that off
[01:25] <Rexodus> BaKeR: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade does the job.
[01:25] <dejan_> i deleted apache2
[01:25] <dejan_> and reinstalled
[01:25] <BaKeR> why just not aply the updates
[01:25] <dejan_> and now is not working
[01:25] <dejan_> any idea?
[01:26] <BaKeR> not much need for security
[01:26] <Logan_> !enter | dejan_
[01:26] <dejan_> they kicked me from httpd because there are ome 'people'..
[01:26] <KM0201> BaKeR: you're not making sense, first you ask how to update, then you say you don't want to update because it makes your machine slower, then you say why not just apply the updates.. what exactly is the issue, and what are you tyring to do?
[01:26] <BaKeR> no you got me all worng
[01:26] <BaKeR> i said do i have to update?
[01:26] <overclucker> BaKeR: you don't have to update your system if you don't want to
[01:27] <KM0201> BaKeR: then no, you don't have to update if you don't want to.
[01:27] <overclucker> BaKeR: how secure your system is, is up to you
[01:27] <alphonso> anyone here running a vnc server?
[01:27] <KM0201> BaKeR: however, often time updates are security updates..
[01:27] <PhoenixAndThor> Hello everyone
[01:27] <xrdodrx> !wfm
[01:27] <jack_^> hi
[01:27] <dejan_> the thing ios this
[01:27] <dejan_> i did something to 'own' ww folder
[01:27] <dejan_> because i couldnt opy files there
[01:28] <BaKeR> yeah but serously has anyone efer got a virus or hacked on ubuntu?
[01:28] <dejan_> so i thik that is the problem pls help i am new
[01:28] <dejan_> to ubuntu
[01:28] <rcmaehl> BaKeR: yes
[01:28] <KM0201> BaKeR: would you like to be the first?
[01:28] <BaKeR> maybe get a ip firewall
[01:28] <BaKeR> blocker
[01:28] <bastidrazor> dejan_: can you try to explain your situation on a single line.. trying to track multiple lined posts are difficult
[01:28] <xrdodrx> BaKeR, has anyone ever hacked on Ubuntu? Every day! :D It's one of the main features of a free OS :)
[01:28] <dejan_> ok
[01:28] <KM0201> BaKeR: oh yeah, that will stop a determined attacker for like 5sec
[01:28] <kp> Does anyone if it a workstation install can be changed to a server install remotely?
[01:28] <BaKeR> hack but not hack your system
[01:28] <dejan_> bastidrazor: if you read what i am sayig you would understand..
[01:28] <dejan_> ffs
[01:28] <jack_^> people get hacked all the times. why do they think security patches are released?
[01:29] <Logan_> !ffs | dejan_
[01:29] <PhoenixAndThor> Anyone have any experience with wmii, specifically how to make a window automatically appear on any tag I create? (omnipressent, on all 'desktops')
[01:29] <KM0201> jack_: cuz security administrators need a job!  duh
[01:29] <jack_^> uh huh
[01:29] <bastidrazor> dejan_: ffs.. i am reading it. you are borking things then rambling about it. massive amounts of posts do not help.
[01:29] <Paolo999> !hello
[01:29] <dejan_> i removed completely apache 2.2 (i believe) and i install it through synaptic, now i cant open localhost
[01:29] <jack_^> ffs eh?
[01:29] <econdudeawesome> Howdy! I'm trying to install Matlab on Ubuntu 10.10. The installer won't load. Does anyone have experience with this?
[01:29] <Paolo999> !list
[01:29] <KM0201> Paolo999: they  killed !hello for some reason
[01:29] <KM0201> lol
[01:29] <jack_^> dejan_, is it running?
[01:29] <BaKeR> well im gonna take the chance intell 11.04 comes out
[01:30] <xrdodrx> Paolo999, you can see ubottu 's factoids by sending it a message :)
[01:30] <dejan_> i did something some guy told me to 'own' www folder coz i couldt cipy files there maybe this is problem? also i am not sure i delted config files coz i edit them and fu**ed up last apache
[01:30] <rcmaehl> SO yeahj
[01:30] <dejan_> jack_^: i type localhost othing
[01:30] <jack_^> dejan_, chown?
[01:30] <rcmaehl> ANy ideas for my problem
[01:30] <dejan_> i type start from sudo nothing it says this
[01:30] <dejan_> chown yes
[01:30] <jack_^> dejan_, type this:   netstat -tunap | grep 80
[01:30] <BaKeR> Im shure 90% that im not going to get hacked
[01:30] <rcmaehl> adding GDM to stat a boot
[01:30] <jack_^> dejan_, give me output
[01:30] <rcmaehl> so I can have A GUI at boot
[01:30] <rcmaehl> and not have to go to tty1 login then launch teh gui insecurely as root
[01:30] <Rexodus> BaKeR: stop talking crap.
[01:31] <jack_^> BaKeR, does that mean 1 in every 10 attempts will succeed ?
[01:31] <BaKeR> or get a one in a billion chance of some virus comeing out and me being the first to get it
[01:31] <PhoenixAndThor> ??
[01:32] <dada> ?
[01:32] <BaKeR> well if theres any hackers here im vulneralbe :)
[01:32] <PhoenixAndThor> Okay, I'm not feeling to lucky about the whole hacking thing, so bye
[01:32] <overclucker> BaKeR: there are exploits for any system type
[01:32] <Darwin1> This is my first time using ubuntu and I am trying to install ubuntu 10.10 - I get as far as "who are you" window and the install hualts.  Where it says copying files it now says "Ready when you are".  It will not let me do anything else, the forward button is not active.  I have down loaded it twice and the same thing happens.   Any help would be great.
[01:32] <econdudeawesome> Howdy! I'm trying to install Matlab on Ubuntu 10.10. The installer won't load. Does anyone have experience with this??
[01:32] <bastidrazor> Darwin1: use all lowercase username?
[01:32] <dada> anybody know inotify?
[01:33] <Darwin1> ok will try - thanks
[01:33] <kp> anyone know how to switch from 10.10 workstation to server
[01:33] <rcmaehl> install teh image from your package manager
[01:34] <rcmaehl> or sudo apt-get install ubuntu-server
[01:34] <kp> from a remote location
[01:34] <rcmaehl> ummm
[01:34] <rcmaehl> no
[01:34] <rcmaehl> idk then
[01:34] <Aginor> econdudeawesome: no, but I might be able to help you a bit anyway
[01:35] <Darwin1> bastidrazor:  Thanks very much it worked and is now finishing the install
[01:35] <Aginor> econdudeawesome: how are you running the installer and what errors are you seeing?
[01:35] <insin> can the default tk theme be changed? git gui was about bearable on window, but is eye gouging on Ubuntu :)
[01:35] <bastidrazor> Darwin1: i've seen many people get stuck at that point. you're welcome and hope you enjoy Ubuntu
[01:35] <kp> there has to be a way to do it
[01:35] <insin> s/window/windows/
[01:35] <iflema> !nox kp
[01:36] <lusmus> is linux mint from ubuntu?
[01:36] <rcmaehl> yep
[01:36] <Guest18643> anyone knows how to make my brightness control app work?
[01:36] <rcmaehl> Guest18643: is it on a laptop?
[01:36] <hwilde> !keytouch | Guest18643
[01:36] <Guest18643> i have a gateway ID49C07 laptop with intel gma HD
[01:36] <piepieburger> Hey, is this the ubuntu help channel?
[01:36] <lusmus> uh, why?
[01:36] <Logan_> piepieburger: Yes.
[01:37] <iflema> !nox | kp
[01:37] <piepieburger> ok thanks, i just installed xchat and wanted to make sure i set it up correctly
[01:37] <IsmAvatar> I know 512 MB is a little low for RAM, but is it normal for WinXP to run fairly well when Ubuntu slows to a painful crawl?
[01:37] <Guest18643> hwilde, the keyborad shortcut works
[01:37] <iflema> kp ssh and reconfig grub maybe...
[01:37] <kp> That would work if i was at the machine
[01:37] <kp> the box is about 50 miles from me
[01:37] <rcmaehl> Guest18643: if you want to only do it once you can run pkexec gnome-power-backlight-helper --set-brightness (0-7 here without the parenthesis)
[01:38] <joshdreamland1> I apt-get'd libwxbase-2.8-dev; why is setup.h missing?
[01:38] <alphonso> anyone tried gnome3 with an old ati vid card? ati x1400
[01:38] <iflema> kp ssh to reconfig /etc/default/grub and update-grub
[01:39] <Guest18643> rcmaehl, it doesnt do anything
[01:39] <rcmaehl> not 0-7 but like 5 or 4 or 1
[01:39] <Guest18643> still nope
[01:39] <rcmaehl> O_O
[01:40] <rcmaehl> what laptop brand?
[01:40] <Guest18643> gateway
[01:40] <rcmaehl> you might need a package
[01:40] <ahaziah77> real quick question, i have a friend who needs some help with her computer, might install ubuntu, it is an older xp computer with only 512mb of ram, im not for sure the other specs, but i was wondering what a good version of ubuntu for it would be, can it handle lucid?
[01:40] <skxx> ahaziah77: try xubuntu.  it's made to run well on older computers.
[01:40] <iflema> !lubuntu | ahaziah77
[01:41] <Guest18643> rcmaehl, any specifics?
[01:41] <ahaziah77> cool, so ill check out xubuntu and lubuntu
[01:41] <rcmaehl> Guest18643: I'm lookin
[01:41] <rcmaehl> g
[01:41] <Guest18643> thx
[01:41] <iflema> ahaziah77: lubuntu ;)
[01:41] <lusmus> i would rec lubuntu instead of xu
[01:41] <fisix> lolbuntu
[01:42] <rcmaehl> I wouldn't recommend kubuntu for 512mb
[01:42] <ahaziah77> k, i will have to check out lubuntu, i have heard of xubuntu but not familiar with lubuntu at al
[01:42] <fisix> what's the diff between xu and lu?
[01:42] <skxx> xu runs xfce
[01:42] <skxx> lu runs lxde
[01:43] <skxx> that's be the main difference
[01:43] <fisix> ohhh icic
[01:43] <fisix> what about ubuntu itself?
[01:43] <skxx> that'd*
[01:43] <lusmus> its gnome
[01:43] <skxx> ubuntu uses gnome standard
[01:43] <KM0201> rcmaehl: yeah, no way on KDE.. i'm not sure if gnome would even run that well on that.. that's definitely down to xfce, lxde and openbox levels.
[01:43] <lusmus> yup
[01:43] <ahaziah77> skxx, which makes me beg the question, what is the difference between xfce and lxde?
[01:44] <fisix> other than looks
[01:44] <skxx> well i've never run lxde but xfce is meant to be run on a wider variety of computers than gnome and kde
[01:44]  * iflema their all still buntu with a different frontend
[01:44] <skxx> it runs well on older computers
[01:44] <fisix> ooo
[01:44] <iceroot> ahaziah77: one is using qt, the other is using gtk
[01:44] <skxx> but you can make it looks slick if you have a better comp
[01:44] <fisix> can you strap ubuntu with kde instead of gnome?
[01:44] <KM0201> skxx: over the last couple years, xfce has become just as bloated as gnome.
[01:44] <iflema> !kubuntu
[01:44] <rcmaehl> Guest18643: gddccontrol might help
[01:44] <skxx> you can use whatever you want with vanilla gnome
[01:45] <Guest18643> rcmaehl, already have it
[01:45] <rcmaehl> hmmm
[01:45] <skxx> you just go into your package manager and install a new desktop environment, be it kde, xfce, lxde, fluxbox, openbox, blackbox, afterstep, etc etc etc
[01:46] <skxx> i'm running xubuntu now and it does pretty well
[01:46] <skxx> my printer's being a bit of a bastard right now, though.
[01:46] <rcmaehl> Guest18643: idk can't find anything else
[01:46] <Guest18643> thx anyway
[01:46] <KM0201> skxx: it runs fine, but i think the advantages that xfce had over gnome, are pretty well gone.
[01:46] <KM0201> but it's still a good GUI in my opinion
[01:46] <fisix> ohhh icic skxx
[01:47] <fisix> what's the deal with the whole x windows thing and startx? we don't need to deal with that in ubuntu?
[01:48] <My-Computer> is there a way to get the guest session prompt to show up on the login screen lucid
[01:48] <rcmaehl> My-Computer: yes
[01:48] <rcmaehl> My-Computer: in the control center you can change it to show guest on the logon screen
[01:48] <skxx> fisix: naw x starts up by default
[01:49] <shadghost> I got a error when installing using apt-get http://paste.ubuntu.com/578613/
[01:49] <rcmaehl> skxx: mine doesn't
[01:49] <skxx> fisix: you might need to tink around with your xorg configuration file depending on how ambitious you are
[01:49] <skxx> rcmaehl: are you running vanilla ubuntu
[01:49] <fisix> gotcha
[01:49] <rcmaehl> skxx: I'm running (IDK) i've installed and uninstalled like 20 different linux images and window manager
[01:49] <rcmaehl> s
[01:49] <skxx> haha
[01:49] <EvilPhoenix> how does one go about creating a .deb package so that it can be used as an installer?  and are there any GUI tools to create one?
[01:50] <rcmaehl> shxx`Currently ubuntu 10.10 desktop
[01:50] <rcmaehl> 32-bit gnome
[01:50] <skxx> i used to set mine up to boot to console cuz i felt it was more hardcore
[01:50] <skxx> but i got sick of using w3m as my browser
[01:50] <lusmus> w3m is hardcore man!
[01:51] <skxx> i lubs w3m
[01:51] <rcmaehl> skxx: w3m does get annoyinga t times but nano is awesome
[01:51] <skxx> never really used nano as a browser
[01:51] <rcmaehl> lol
[01:51] <rcmaehl> no
[01:51] <rcmaehl> nano = text editor
[01:51] <fisix> doesn't w3m fail for images?
[01:51] <fisix> and formatting?
[01:52] <rcmaehl> for console
[01:52] <skxx> that's what i thought
[01:52] <skxx> i dig vim for editing
[01:52] <lusmus> haha no images no ads xD
[01:52] <skxx> i still used gvim when i'm in x
[01:52] <fisix> but no images!!!
[01:52] <Ben64> how can i find the version of a package available on apt-get
[01:52] <rcmaehl> Better idea!
[01:53] <fisix> why would you use vim over nano?
[01:53] <rcmaehl> just wget the entire website
[01:53] <dancios> Hello i have a question is adobe flash works normally(10.04/x86/Athlon Xp) ? i have standard open drivers for radeon 9250 and youtube is black&white with deformation. if embededed it seems normal is it common problem ?
[01:53] <lusmus> haha :)
[01:53] <rcmaehl> wget -r google.com
[01:53] <skxx> cuz it's insanely slick. you get all these awesome code-highlighting options
[01:53] <rcmaehl> time remaining: calculating
[01:53] <lusmus> skxx: hi testing :D
[01:53] <skxx> and and extensible(sp) as hell
[01:53] <phoenixsampras> how to open a 7z file?
[01:54] <skxx> lusmus: see ? :)
[01:54] <rcmaehl> phoenixsampras: install p7zip
[01:54] <lusmus> skxx: haha nice :)
[01:54] <fisix> skxx, what do you mean extensibl(sp)?
[01:55] <skxx> fisix: it's insanely configurable and has a metric ass-ton of scripty addon type goodies
[01:55] <fisix> ohhh icic
[01:55] <psusi> emacs for the winz! ;)
[01:55] <skxx> oh hells no
[01:55] <skxx> lol
[01:55] <phoenixsampras> rcmaehl: thank you
[01:56] <fisix> shit i don't even have vim, hahah
[01:56] <skxx> of course the whole idea of "emacs is bloated" doesn't really apply anymore'
[01:56] <skxx> fisix: you should try it out
[01:56] <skxx> fisix: it rocks my socks off
[01:57] <skxx> fisix: it's just about the greatest thing you can use for barebones web editing... and if you code or script it's the bee's friggin knees.
[01:57] <rcmaehl> my netbook w/ ubuntu no play HD videos good it go lag lag lag meh lag derp lag brick lag. What do?
[01:57] <fisix> a bit more of a hassle to use than nano though.. but i guess there's advantage in colour schemes. but then i'd just use gedit or an IDE if i were actually coding..
[01:57]  * psusi currently has a half dozen source files, two shells, a bzr log, a bzr commit entry, and gdb open in emacs... win.
[01:57] <skxx> rcmaehl: lol
[01:57] <AnubArack> what does emerald replace?
[01:57] <skxx> ooo speaking of shells i need to reinstall zsh
[01:58] <lusmus> skxx:  is this same for all irc apps?
[01:58] <rcmaehl> AnubArack: metacity
[01:58] <psusi> hell, I've even been getting on irc in emacs lately at work
[01:58] <skxx> lusmus: for most of them, yes
[01:58] <rcmaehl> The torrent I'm torrenting only has 1 seeder what do?
[01:58] <rcmaehl> And it's 20gb
[01:58] <skxx> rcmaehl: damnit i just laughed my drink into my friggin nostril
[01:58] <AnubArack> rcmaehl, shuld i keep meta ? as I'm gettins so many mixed results ... my theme is gone for nautilus and desktop
[01:58] <AnubArack> and i'm getting pissed as hell
[01:59] <rcmaehl> AnubArack: using emerald is hard and confusing
[02:00] <rcmaehl> AnubArack: however usualy restarting nautilus by killing the process will fix the theme
[02:00] <AnubArack> a theme i use needed it but screw this theme ...
[02:00] <fisix> how do you get out of vim. escape, colon q every time? :S
[02:00] <rcmaehl> AnubArack: Windows 7 Theme?
[02:00] <lusmus> AnubArack: effects isnt good :p
[02:00] <maco> fisix: yes, that's quit. if you want to save&quit you can ZZ
[02:00] <skxx> or escape, :wq to write the file before you leave
[02:00] <fisix> ahh
[02:00] <Rexodus> AnubArack: Ever heard of making backups before messing up your system? :P
[02:01] <skxx> or escape :q! to quit without saving an edited file
[02:01] <fisix> gotcha
[02:01] <AnubArack> idk how to Rexodus
[02:01] <rcmaehl> I screw up my ubuntu system carelessly so I can fix it and learn
[02:01] <Rexodus> ;]
[02:01] <AnubArack> also i'm using a wubi 10.10
[02:01] <rcmaehl> I now know lots of shit not to do and how to fix it
[02:01] <Rexodus> rcmaehl: That's what VM's are for.
[02:02] <rcmaehl> AnubArack: lol there isn't wubi 10.10 it's most likely ubuntu 10.10
[02:02] <skxx> hell if you put /home on a separate partition you can wreck and reinstall all day long without losing anything
[02:02] <rcmaehl> Rexodus: but but but VMs can run on a netbook
[02:02] <AnubArack> well ofc it's not wubi 10.10 ... i shortend out as you all would get it anyway
[02:02] <rcmaehl> they go meh brick
[02:02] <skxx> lol
[02:02] <fisix> why do you guys use VM's anyway?
[02:02] <Rexodus> rcmaehl: Why not?
[02:02] <billybob3> hi, my computer refuses to shut down when i go control + alt+ delete or go to the panel icon then shut down?
[02:03] <skxx> just yank the cable out of the back.
[02:03] <skxx> just kidding, don't do that.
[02:03] <rcmaehl> billybob3: open terminal ctrl + alt + t
[02:03] <rcmaehl> billybob3: then run sudo shutdown -f now
[02:03] <AnubArack> so any easy backup utility for ubuntu ?
[02:03] <rcmaehl> AnubArack: sudo apt-get install backintime
[02:03] <skxx> man cp
[02:03] <phoenixsampras> AnubArack: there is... i cant recall the name
[02:03] <jack_^> tar
[02:03] <Rexodus> AnubArack: dd
[02:03] <jack_^> LOLOL
[02:04] <jack_^> rsync
[02:04] <Rexodus> ;]
[02:04] <phoenixsampras> AnubArack: bacula
[02:04] <billybob3> yea, i know how to shut it down, i just wish i didn't have to typ my passowrd, it's an LTSP/DHCP sevrer, coulc that have anything tot do with it?
[02:04] <AnubArack> i'll go check both out
[02:04] <fisix> questionnn, will sudo rm -rf / actually delete root? if not, what's the biggest (or most crucial) directory it can delete? if deleted, can it be easily recovered?
[02:04] <phoenixsampras> AnubArack: clonezilla
[02:04] <lusmus> rcmaehl: isnt that like the Mac version of time machine?
[02:04] <jack_^> billybob3, i doubt it
[02:04] <jack_^> billybob3, type shutdown -h now (to shutdown)
[02:04] <jack_^> billybob3, or init 6;
[02:05] <jack_^> asctually, id ont think init6 works anymore
[02:05] <skxx> fisix: rm -rf will del anything you have the priveleges to delete
[02:05] <maco> fisix: /lib and /usr/lib are probably the most destructive since then getting any /bin or /usr/bin stuff reinstalled would fail...
[02:05] <billybob3> thanks jack, bye
[02:05] <skxx> fisix: and there's no getting it back.
[02:05] <Rexodus> AnubArack: g4u
[02:05] <maco> fisix: youd have to reinstall the system to recover from removing /
[02:05] <fisix> whoa perfect! thanks guys, hahah
[02:05] <rcmaehl> Fisix I recommend you not rm -rf /
[02:05] <fisix> LOL
[02:05] <skxx> lol
[02:05] <skxx> quoted
[02:05] <Random832> supposedly deleting from / ends up spinning in /proc
[02:05] <fisix> i figured it wouldn't let me though
[02:05] <AnubArack> phoenixsampras, i should of knows there are many but witch one is better or at least easies to use ... it's my second day on linux so i'm not that savvy
[02:05] <qnix> hi.
[02:05] <skxx> no it will
[02:05] <fisix> but i dunno, has anyone tried?
[02:05] <overclucker> sudo shudown -hP now
[02:05] <skxx> you might have to sudo
[02:05] <fisix> it will?!
[02:05] <fisix> wow
[02:06] <fisix> then what happens :S?
[02:06] <fisix> you can't do anything?
[02:06] <maco> fisix: rm has been patched though
[02:06] <jack_^> fisix, put home on a seperate partition and then blow everything up except home. you can just re-install ubuntu and most of your stuff well be fine as it gets saved to home
[02:06] <skxx> then, as rcmaehl would say "brick"
[02:06] <jack_^> fisix, it will die
[02:06] <qnix> I'm experiencing a problem... a table of my database disapear.
[02:06] <rcmaehl> fisix: yeah I've emailed the ubuntu website about it and they still haven't got back to me
[02:06] <AnubArack> something as close to time machine or windows restore would be great
[02:06] <maco> fisix: by default if you try it on / itll warn you. the manpage will explain how to make it "allowed" to do that
[02:06] <jack_^> maco, i want to test that but....
[02:06] <fisix> ohhhh icic
[02:06] <maco> jack_^: just read the manpage
[02:07] <maco> jack_^: itll explain what i'm referring to
[02:07] <fisix> so you could just toss it in a shellscript and own someone?
[02:07] <jack_^> maco, yeah but what if its wrong D: heh
[02:07] <maco> jack_^: it's right. ive seen the warning ;-)
[02:07] <fisix> assuming they sudo pass
[02:07] <jack_^> fisix, they're are much more exciting ways to own someone :D
[02:07] <overclucker> maco: i dont think coreutils was compiled wit hthat warning on ubuntu
[02:07] <fisix> o rly :o
[02:07] <jack_^> maco, is that upstream?
[02:07] <fisix> i'd like to know... hahah
[02:07] <skxx> jack_^: ooo like a logic bomb
[02:07] <maco> jack_^: dunno
[02:07] <maco> overclucker: it is
[02:07] <rcmaehl> sudo rm -rf /bin/rm
[02:07] <maco> overclucker: someone put the bad command in here a few days ago and someone who ran it unawares pasted in "it told me this.... "
[02:08] <skxx> hah cute.
[02:08] <lusmus> you use -i on commands too
[02:08] <jack_^> maco where in the man page?
[02:08] <maco> jack_^: the part about preserving root
[02:08] <jack_^>        --preserve-root
[02:08] <jack_^>               do not remove `/' (default)
[02:08]  * jack_^ fires up a vm to test
[02:08] <rcmaehl> sudo umount /
[02:09] <maco> rcmaehl: bad idea
[02:09] <rcmaehl> wait wait
[02:09] <rcmaehl> sudo mount / /dev/null
[02:09] <fisix> learned about shred
[02:09] <fisix> interesting
[02:09] <fisix> what would mounting dev null do?
[02:09] <fisix> freeze, but restart would be good?
[02:09] <shcherbak> rcmaehl: Instead of bugging people on irc, do it in terminal!
[02:09] <rcmaehl> fisix: /dev/null = blackhole
[02:10] <lusmus> is ubuntu server good if you gonna get a server and still want to learn linux?
[02:10] <fisix> so mounting it would freeze ur comp i'm guessing/
[02:10] <rcmaehl> shcherbak: but I am in terminal
[02:10] <rcmaehl> fisix: sudo mv / /dev/null
[02:10] <shcherbak> rcmaehl: /quit
[02:10] <shcherbak> !ops
[02:10] <skxx> so i'm trying to get this bastard printer to work... it's an hp deskjet 1000 and i'm running xu mav.  i try to print test pages and whatnot, and it says it's queueing jobs but nothings happening, and nothings apparently showing up in the printer queue. halp?
[02:11] <AnubArack> Flyback, as a backup solution, looks promising. Any one used it?
[02:11] <rcmaehl> shcherbak: ... what did I do he knows better as well as everone else
[02:11] <overclucker> it probably isn't a good idea to discuss commands taht could damage your system here
[02:11] <fisix> no way rcmaehl, does that effectively delete root?
[02:11] <skxx> well people need to know about them, and the dangers therein
[02:12] <rcmaehl> fisix: are you trying to like wipe your hard drive or something?
[02:12] <skxx> so when someone says "hey, type sudo rm -rf / into your terminal" they can say... "umm, stfu"
[02:12] <shcherbak> rcmaehl: Someone might not, and this issupport channel, so many come here to learn... constructive aproach
[02:12] <fisix> hahah nah i'm just curious about *nix's allowances to ridiculous things..
[02:12] <craigbass1976> What's the best way to get 64 bit lightning?  The Ubuntu Software Center keeps telling me "the software catalog needs updating."
[02:13] <lusmus> skxx: is ubuntu server good for server and you wanna learn linux?
[02:13] <skxx> fisix: there are so many ways to bone your system if you've got root priveleges.  that's why ubuntu runs without root by default.
[02:13] <Dwarf> What's the best way to link an ata message in dmesg to the mount point in my system?  I have a hard drive (ata7) dying on me according to dmesg, but I have no idea without cracking the box open and tracing the lines which drive it is.  I wanted to figure out what the mount point was so I know whether to fix it quick, or if it's an unused drive.
[02:13] <fisix> ooo
[02:13] <skxx> lusmus: if you wanna learn linux, ubuntu rocks.  vanilla ubuntu is still pretty good with running servers, depending on what you wanna do
[02:13] <craigbass1976> lusmus, just make sure you install openssh-server on it
[02:14] <craigbass1976> I've left a place more than once and realized I forgot that...
[02:14] <Vesuivius> can someone help I am trying to transfer data to my mp3 player but it says its a read only fs
[02:14] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, what's the player?
[02:14] <Vesuivius> Ipod
[02:14] <fisix> what are the differences between distros other than the gui? like why would one choose something (mint,arch) over another
[02:14] <skxx> Vesuivius: ipods are hella tricky
[02:14] <lusmus> skxx: have a like a home server with desktop i think ;)
[02:14] <skxx> lusmus: like a remote desktop?
[02:15] <Vesuivius> skxx : can you help me troubleshoot this
[02:15] <craigbass1976> skxx, we had no trouble, but it was an older one
[02:15] <lusmus> skxx: no
[02:15] <dejan_> hello, how can I install php on ubutu 10.10?
[02:15] <skxx> craigbass1976: what ver of ubuntu are/were you running
[02:15] <lusmus> skxx: which i can use while i programming my webpage or something
[02:15] <craigbass1976> dejan_, google LAMP ubuntu.  I know there's a good tut on the ubuntu sites somewhere
[02:16] <craigbass1976> skxx, lucid 32bit; not sure version of ipod
[02:16] <zach> fisix: Not all linux operating systems are compatible, so kde might have less programs for it than say Ubuntu.
[02:16] <dejan_> why it says that apache2-mpm-worker will be removed and apache2-mpm-prefork will be instaleld
[02:16] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976: its a ipod classic can you help me change it from read only to read and write
[02:16] <dejan_> what this means?
[02:17] <dejan_> craigbass1976: but i dont want lamp
[02:17] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, type mount and see where it got mounted
[02:17] <tsimpson> zach: you can run KDE programs in Ubuntu just fine, and vice-versa
[02:17] <Abhijit> !lamp
[02:17] <fisix> hmmm
[02:17] <skxx> Vesuivius: if it mounts as a disk you should be able to change things around in fstab
[02:17] <craigbass1976> dejan_, but all the php packages you'll want are in the command
[02:17] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976: its mounted in /media/_
[02:17] <dejan_> i knoiw..
[02:17] <dejan_> :S
[02:17] <shcherbak> fisix: Many, installer (we use apt, but rhel rpm), configs, software versions, and different kernels.
[02:18] <zach> tsimpson: But what about RPM and .Deb packages, can you run RPM packages in Ubuntu?
[02:18] <naptastic> hey guys, the apt-mirror package in the main Ubuntu repos appears to be unsigned... it's a little worrisome to me... who should I tell?
[02:18] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, media/?  I like your name by the way...  My kids are both infatuated with volcanoes right now
[02:18] <craigbass1976> What's the best way to get 64 bit lightning?  The Ubuntu Software Center keeps telling me "the software catalog needs updating."
[02:18] <khrm> dejan_ you want to install only php?
[02:18] <shcherbak> ubottu: tell zach about alien
[02:18] <dejan_> khrm: yes then mysql and php my admin
[02:18] <tsimpson> dejan_: if you just want command-line PHP, install php5-cli
[02:18] <dejan_> but amnnually not lamp xamp ect
[02:18] <dejan_> no comand line
[02:18] <craigbass1976> dejan_, sudo apt-get install php5.  I believe there's a php5-cli too, but you'll want to check
[02:19] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976 : its in /media/_
[02:19] <dejan_> i installed php5 but it say in synaptic that will remove apache2-mpm-worker and istall prefork
[02:19] <dejan_> what this means?
[02:19] <fisix> i know there are diff installers and kernel versions.. thus different software available for each linux distro. so one chooses a distro mainly based on the software that it's suited for?
[02:19] <tsimpson> zach: rpm and deb are package formats, and usually can be converted to and from each other, but "KDE" is not an OS btw
[02:19] <zach> how do i view private messages?
[02:19] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, media/disk  or it's just the whole media directory?
[02:19] <dejan_> also where will be php.ini file? :S
[02:19] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976 : its an underscore after /media
[02:20] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976: the directory is "_"
[02:20] <tsimpson> dejan_: /etc/php5/
[02:20] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, try sudo umount /media/_  then type mount again and see if it went away.  Also, remember where the physical device is (/dev/sdb1, etc, etc)
[02:21] <skxx> when did ubuntu stop letting you use /etc/init.d ?
[02:21] <dejan_> tsimpson: ok thanks
[02:21] <shcherbak> fisix: Well software is mainly the same, it is most about comfort, Ubuntu is easier to maintain then... let's say any other distro, it is about how all pieces are connected.
[02:21] <craigbass1976> skxx, I don't think it stopped leting you, just suggests use service.  I noticed it in lucid, but I came up from hardy, so I'm not sure when it happened
[02:22] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976: it went away
[02:22] <skxx> craigbass1976: yeah i started with breezy and i just noticed it
[02:22] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, mmmkay.  Now, sudo mount -t (filesystem type) /dev/(location I said to remember) /mnt
[02:22] <Zeu5> hi there,
[02:23] <fisix> shcherbak: what'r these "pieces" you speak of?
[02:23] <Zeu5> my battery power management settings has it that my laptop suspends when lid closed
[02:23] <craigbass1976> skxx, when was Breezy?  I didn't find ubuntu until dapper (redhat 7.3 and fedora befor ethat)
[02:23] <Zeu5> i closed my lid and opened again. all i get is a black screen with the mouse cursor blinking
[02:23] <skxx> hrm lemme see
[02:23] <KM0201> !breezy | craigbass1976
[02:23] <Zeu5> how can i resume from closing my lid on batter power?
[02:24] <KM0201> !warty | craigbass1976
[02:24] <rcmaehl> Zeu5: powerbutton
[02:24] <skxx> craigbass1976: breezy was 5.10 released in 2005
[02:24] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976: What is the filesystem type
[02:24] <Zeu5> rcmaehl: i end up restarting my laptop :(
[02:24] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, look back in the mount command you typed a while ago; it should have listed it
[02:24] <rcmaehl> Zeu5: just tap the button not hold it
[02:25] <Zeu5> rcmaehl: oops
[02:25] <craigbass1976> Zeu5, I have to hit my arrow keys and wait.  What's your laptop model?  Mine's acer 5517
[02:25] <soreau> I installed ubuntu to usb using startup creator but it's sooo slow to install updates. downloading was fine
[02:25] <Zeu5> craigbass1976: mine is ASUS N43J
[02:26] <Zeu5> craigbass1976: what do you mena by arrow keys? u mean those cursor keys below the enter key?
[02:26] <dejan_> on php.net installation maual what hould i read for ubuntu , unix systems or debia gnu linux?
[02:26] <dejan_> instructions for istallaton
[02:26] <dejan_> i have ubuntu 10.10
[02:26] <craigbass1976> Zeu5, yep
[02:26] <tsimpson> dejan_: ubuntu is based on debian
[02:27] <Cody3290> ok it stopped
[02:27] <Cody3290> that was weird...
[02:27] <craigbass1976> Zeu5, then I think I have to waggle about on the trackpad to get the passwrod screen to come up, but maybe not; I'm probably just impatient
[02:27] <Zeu5> craigbass1976: what key should i press in case my ASUS behaves like your acer
[02:27] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976: ok i executed that command sudo mount -t
[02:27] <Zeu5> i think i waggle craigbass1976but the mouse cursor is just blinking
[02:27] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, and is there something in /mnt ?
[02:27] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, ls /mnt
[02:28] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, you typed the whole command right and raplaced what I had in parentheses with actual stuff?
[02:28] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976 : i cd'd into /mnt and its in there
[02:28] <suee> hey . how to install the antivirus for ubuntu ?
[02:28] <tsimpson> !antivirus | suee
[02:29] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, ls -l /mnt   Is anything rw- ?
[02:29] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, course, it's all owned by root...
[02:29] <skxx> this printer is a haggard pain in my ass.. fml
[02:29] <suee> oic . thanks for the info .
[02:29] <zach> suee: If you want antivirus software you can get for linux at http://www.dotdeb.com/antivirus.php
[02:29] <speedrunnerG55> hi, so i have this HDD
[02:29] <test23> hi all, have an issue on my 10.10 system that i noticed about a week ago. when multiple users are logged in, when one user logs out, the system freezes. any ideas?
[02:29] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976: yea i tried to change ownership before, no success
[02:29] <IdleOne> !language | skxx
[02:30] <speedrunnerG55> thats 40 Gb and i cant see it in places
[02:30] <dejan_> um
[02:30] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, but can you write to the device?  Try sudo touch /mnt/blah.txt
[02:30] <speedrunnerG55> i reformated it in disc utility
[02:30] <speedrunnerG55> what should i do
[02:31] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976 : Read only filesystem
[02:31] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, expletive, expletive, expletive...
[02:32] <dejan_> i have hard time
[02:32] <dejan_> i removed php5 from synaptic
[02:32] <dejan_> i wrote this but it do nothig  why?
[02:32] <dejan_> # apt-get install php5-common libapache2-mod-php5 php5-cli
[02:32] <speedrunnerG55> what shall i do...
[02:32] <tsimpson> dejan_: did you write the '#
[02:32] <dejan_> yes
[02:32] <tsimpson> dejan_: don't, that makes the shell ignore it
[02:32] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976: the touch command failed
[02:33] <dejan_> look what is this
[02:33] <tsimpson> dejan_: that symbol in documents is usually used to just show "run this as root"
[02:33] <dejan_> i try to install it like php net suggest and look
[02:33] <test23> any ideas ppl?
[02:33] <dejan_> i have removed it previously from syaptic only php5
[02:33] <dejan_> dejan@Dejan:/home$ apt-get install php5-common libapache2-mod-php5 php5-cli
[02:33] <dejan_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[02:33] <dejan_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[02:33] <dejan_> dejan@Dejan:/home$
[02:33] <FloodBot3> dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:33] <tsimpson> dejan_: run as root means use sudo
[02:34] <dejan_> dejan@Dejan:/home$ sudo apt-get install php5-common libapache2-mod-php5 php5-cli
[02:34] <dejan_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:34] <dejan_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:34] <dejan_> dejan@Dejan:/home$
[02:34] <dejan_> why is this :S
[02:34] <KM0201> dejan_: are you just not very smart or what?
[02:34] <tsimpson> !paste | dejan_
[02:34] <soreau> dejan_: It asks you a question..
[02:34] <tsimpson> dejan_: close synaptic first
[02:34] <KM0201> jeez..
[02:34] <dejan_> sry
[02:34] <soreau> dejan_: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? <-- the answer is probably 'yes'
[02:34] <dejan_> YES because syaptic was open thanks ALL!
[02:35] <tsimpson> KM0201: please don't insult people
[02:35] <dejan_> good book for linux ?
[02:35] <dejan_> totaly beginner
[02:35] <dejan_> 17 years experience in win hell
[02:35] <frankroa> Hey Everyone, I just updated 10.04 with the last batch of updates and after reboot all i get is grub> what do I do?
[02:35] <soreau> KM0201: Just because you're new doesn't mean you're less intelligent
[02:35] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, I don't know what else to tell you.  It's easier when I've got something in hand to play with.  What you may have to do is tail -f /var/log/messages then unplug and replug the thing in and watch what scrolls by.  Then google for the messages you see; that's how I start.  You can't be the only one with this ipod, and I'm sure someone's got it working.  Search the ubuntu forums for that stuff too, you're more a
[02:35] <craigbass1976> pt to get an answer
[02:35] <dejan_> suggest me some good beginer book for linux pls
[02:35] <soreau> s/new/uninformed
[02:36] <soreau> frankroa: Tried reinstalling grub?
[02:36] <KM0201> soreau: i just asked a question... and sorry, "1400 people ina  channel, so i'll paste a bunch" that would make me think.. i dunno.
[02:36] <craigbass1976> dejan_, I've found the oreilly books a bit dry.
[02:36] <frankroa> i don't even know how to do that
[02:37] <dejan_> um dry?
[02:37] <sguru> hi i need help related mutter
[02:37] <soreau> KM0201: Well in this channel, everyone is considered innocent until proven trolls :P
[02:38] <shcherbak> dejan_: it is called PS1 and $ stand for normal user, where ~ stand fo r root
[02:38] <KM0201> soreau: i'm well aware of that...
[02:38] <iggy19> frankroa: I don't know it off the top of my head, but there is pretty easy instructions for loading your system from a grub command prompt out there.
[02:38] <shcherbak> dejan_: sorry # for root
[02:38] <dejan_> :Oo
[02:38] <dejan_> shcherbak: sry i dot udestand you
[02:38] <sguru> anybody to help me in mutter
[02:38] <dejan_> suggest me some good beginer book for linux pls
[02:38] <frankroa> iggy i've been trying to find but most seem to instructions for duel operating systems
[02:39] <bastidrazor> !manual | dejan_
[02:39] <mjs> hi all, looking for help joining ubuntu maverick to a windows domain...
[02:39] <nit-wit> frankroa, is this a wubi install?
[02:39] <tsimpson> dejan_: if you want to discuss which books may be good, #ubuntu-offtopic is where you should ask
[02:39] <shcherbak> dejan_: sorry me too, trying to read to fast,
[02:39] <dejan_> um sry how i install gd library for php, is it same if i use command line to install it and synaptic?
[02:39] <craigbass1976> dejan_, hard for a beginner.  The nutshell books.  Try something by sams publishers
[02:39] <iggy19> frankroa: don't have time to google for you, but... something like locating your /boot files, your grub install, and then putting it all together and issuing the /bot command
[02:39] <mjs> having no luck on my own
[02:39] <dejan_> how to install gd library for php and exif pls
[02:39] <iggy19> /s/bot command/boot command
[02:39] <dejan_> tsimpson: thanks
[02:39] <noremorse1> mjs: are you using likewise-open?
[02:40] <dejan_> craigbass1976: thanks
[02:40] <frankroa> I made a cd from the 10.04 upgrade from ubuntu i have no idea what wubi is
[02:40] <shcherbak> dejan_: I will call again, when I will start to follow what is going on ;(
[02:40] <LadyNikon> oh yea
[02:40] <dejan_> ?
[02:40] <tsimpson> dejan_: php5-gd is the package you want, use synaptic if you're more comfortable with that
[02:40] <dejan_> yes
[02:40] <craigbass1976> dejan_, I was just trying to find a php book for you that's awesome.  Oh, I think it's downstairs.  brb
[02:40] <iggy19> frankroa: was scary as hell the first time I had to do it, but now that it's been a few years, and I've done it a few times, and I understand the process better, it acutally isn't too bad
[02:40] <dejan_> tsimpson: i am affraid synaptic is ot good
[02:40] <sguru> hi.. anybody to help me in mutter??
[02:40] <craigbass1976> dejan_, or do you just need linux help?
[02:40] <rp21> i love synaptic
[02:41] <mjs> noremorse1, tried using likewise-open got it to work before,  but it's been awhile, and forgotten all of the steps...willing to use ADS or centrify...what ever works...
[02:41] <dejan_> tsimpson: it  install pacages too or just dowload them? also do i have to install additional software for gd and exif library?
[02:41] <tsimpson> sguru: if you ask a specific question people may answer
[02:41] <skxx> rp21: yeps man synaptic is the juice
[02:41] <rp21> how can i configure window handling and placement in Ubuntu 10.10?
[02:41] <nit-wit> frankroa, wubi is a inside windows install
[02:41] <Fiveways> Hey guys, I installed 10.10 this morning and I'm not getting a bootloader. Never had this problem before. I've tried updating grub and everything, I was finally able to get it to generate the menu.lst but still no bootloader when I restart
[02:41] <noremorse1> mjs: talk in private... i just sent you a message
[02:41] <rp21> it keeps giving me options to "theme". I don#t want to theme, i want resize handles that are big enough for me to find them!
[02:42] <frankroa> nit-wit then no i wiped the hard drive and an ubuntu only install
[02:42] <tsimpson> dejan_: synaptic both downloads and installs packages, php5-gd is the the default Ubuntu repositories so you don't need to enable anything extra
[02:42] <iggy19> frankroa: the good news is twofold: 1. your system is almost certainly there and bootable, if you can make grub find it, and, 2. there is actuall not much danger of f'ing up your system irreperably based upon the commands you can issue in the grub shell (take that with a grain of salt, but that's been my experience)
[02:42] <sguru> i recently installed ubuntu 10.10 netbook version.. on bootup the font on the taskbar look corrupted and as soon as i take my cursor to dockbar the entire screen restarts
[02:42] <nit-wit> frankroa, run on a live ubuntu cd fdisk -l and paste bin the results
[02:42] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976: any suggestions?
[02:43] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, did you see what I said about tail -f /var/log/messages ?
[02:43] <elbertchuah> #android
[02:43] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976: no, sorry about that
[02:43] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, I don't know what else to tell you.  It's easier when I've got something in hand to play with.  What you may have to do is tail -f /var/log/messages then unplug and replug the thing in and watch what scrolls by.  Then google for the messages you see; that's how I start.  You can't be the only one with this ipod, and I'm sure someone's got it working.  Search the ubuntu forums for that stuff too, you're more a
[02:43] <craigbass1976> pt to get an answer
[02:44] <Fiveways> Hmm
[02:44] <sguru> i recently installed ubuntu 10.10 netbook version.. on bootup the font on the taskbar look corrupted and as soon as i take my cursor to dockbar the entire screen restarts
[02:44] <jasion> test
[02:44] <noremorse1> Anyone have experience getting Ubuntu 10.10 past a GFI Webmonitor proxy?
[02:44] <dejan_> linux is t least 10 times beter then wi
[02:44] <Fiveways> I've installed ubuntu a million times (ok, more like 10, lol) and I've never had an issue with grub not installing properly until now
[02:44] <Fiveways> :(
[02:45] <iggy19> frankroa: http://orgs.man.ac.uk/documentation/grub/grub_4.html
[02:45] <rp21> oh it's alt-F8
[02:46] <Random832> anyone have experience getting an alps touchpad working in ubuntu?
[02:46] <nit-wit> Fiveways, you shouldn't have a menu.list that is grub legacy can you be more descriptive ie whats the set up and if a grub menu is showing at all or with the shift key held down on powering on.
[02:46] <dejan_> ok one more thing
[02:46] <doug9> looking for a site to explain basic networking
[02:47] <dejan_> how to install mysql ?
[02:47] <rcmaehl> hey how do I get my cpu info from terminal?
[02:47] <EnigmaticCoder> Does anyone know how to compile a program from source to another platform (cross compile)?
[02:47] <dejan_> i ahve several files o syaptic dont sure what to install
[02:47] <dejan_> :S
[02:47] <tsimpson> dejan_: so you do want lamp?
[02:47] <dejan_> no no
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> !mysql
[02:47] <bastidrazor> rcmaehl: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:47] <dejan_> :)
[02:47] <iggy19> frankroa: don't forget the huge value of tab-completion within the GRUB environment.  root<TAB> should be useful/instructive.
[02:47] <dejan_> hahah
[02:47] <tsimpson> dejan_: Linux + Apache + MySQL + PHP == lamp
[02:47] <dejan_> tsimpson: get seriosu dude !
[02:47] <dejan_> really?
[02:47] <tsimpson> yes
[02:47] <FloodBot3> dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:47] <dejan_> :)
[02:47] <dejan_> um
[02:48] <Fiveways> nit-wit: I have 4 identical 320gb drives, bios is set to boot from the 1st one, where win 7 is installed. ubuntu is installed on the 3rd disk. when i start the pc it boots straight into 10.10, no list
[02:48] <Fiveways> i can try holding shift when I start it up if that's what I need to do
[02:48] <dejan_> just this more and im gone i promise
[02:48] <ninjai> has anyone had a problem with wine where the mouse loses focus in full screen games when you get close to the edge of the screen?  Havingthis problem with starcraft 2
[02:48] <dejan_> tsimpson: get real! :)
[02:48] <tsimpson> dejan_: what do you mean?
[02:48] <nit-wit> Fiveways, run this script and pastebin all the text. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[02:49] <dejan_> tsimpson: pls help me
[02:49] <tsimpson> dejan_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:49] <Fiveways> nit-wit: will do, just a moment
[02:49] <murphylan> Hi
[02:49] <dejan_> how to install mysql i install mysql-php or mysql-cliennt  5,1?
[02:49] <tsimpson> follow the instruction in the link
[02:49] <phoenixsampras> dejan_: apt-get install mysql-server
[02:49] <doug9> Can someone refer me to a site where I can get basic networking explained?
[02:49] <nit-wit> Fiveways, cool
[02:50] <dejan_> i have apache
[02:50] <sguru> i recently installed ubuntu 10.10 netbook version.. on bootup the font on the taskbar look corrupted and as soon as i take my cursor to dockbar the entire screen restarts
[02:50] <sguru> i used to stop gdm and then startx to have stable desktop... now if i do unity.. i get the dockbar (but still unusable).. but when i do mutter --replace & i see the old problem
[02:50] <dejan_> phoenixsampras: thanks are you sure this is the way?
[02:50] <sguru> so no idea about this problem?
[02:50] <dejan_> will i need additional files for it to conect with apache?
[02:51] <Guest63393> Hey, I'm a newbie to ubuntu so I have a question about the irssi script nicklist.pl
[02:51] <tsimpson> dejan_: follow the instruction in the link
[02:51] <phoenixsampras> dejan_: apt-get install phpmyadmin php5 mysql-server
[02:51] <tsimpson> it tells you *exactly* how to do it
[02:51] <phoenixsampras> should do
[02:51] <Fiveways> nit-wit: http://pastebin.com/BMibhh0p
[02:51] <Guest63393> when I try to use it it says couldn't write to the fifo
[02:52] <dejan_> phoenixsampras: many thanks
[02:52] <doug9> tsimpson: do you have a reference for a basic networking tutorial site?
[02:52] <dejan_> phoenixsampras: will i need client
[02:52] <sguru> so no idea about this problem?
[02:52] <nit-wit> Fiveways, thanks hold on
[02:52] <phoenixsampras> dejan_: nah
[02:52] <dejan_> what is client what is server
[02:52] <dejan_> :S
[02:53] <dejan_> phoenixsampras: with mysql server im goot to go? i have apache ad php intalled
[02:53] <tsimpson> doug9: not really, but there's probably stuff at http://help.ubuntu.com/
[02:53] <doug9> tsimpson: thankx
[02:53] <phoenixsampras> dejan_: yes sri
[02:53] <sguru> anybody to help me out in mutter
[02:53] <bastidrazor> dejan_: if you're not going to actually take ANYONE's advice.. why do you keep asking?
[02:54] <dejan_> guy on #mysql told me i need client too for mysql
[02:54] <chbosky> when I try to open nicklistfifo it tells me I don't have an application for pipe files
[02:54] <dejan_> what is client?
[02:54] <dejan_> :S
[02:54] <chbosky> can anyone tell me what application I need for pipe files?
[02:54] <Abhijit> !mysql
[02:54] <bastidrazor> dejan_: i clearly see why you were banned from #httpd
[02:54] <chbosky> !pipe
[02:54] <Rexodus> chbosky: |
[02:54] <sguru> okay thanks bye
[02:55] <chbosky> so, what application do I need for pipe files?
[02:55] <skutr3> can someone help me with my java plugin please?
[02:56] <nit-wit> Fiveways, is the sde2 the latest Ubuntu install? It has both grub legacy and grub2 installed
[02:56] <iggy19> chbosky: what command are you attempting to issue?
[02:56] <tsimpson> chbosky: none, pipes are a part of the OS
[02:56] <skutr3> it doesnt work
[02:56] <chbosky> I'm trying to open this file for my nicklist.pl script
[02:56] <chbosky> nicklistfifo
[02:56] <oldos2er> chbosky: what do you mean by pipe files?
[02:56] <rootmex1> hello
[02:56] <noobie_> hi
[02:57] <noobie_> can you help me?
[02:57] <tsimpson> oldos2er: fifo's
[02:57] <oldos2er> ask away
[02:57] <skutr3> can someone help me with my java plugin please? i need help creating a symbolic link
[02:57] <noobie_> i have a problem after last update of ubuntu
[02:57] <rootmex1> some people from mexico___
[02:57] <chbosky> so, what do I do then?
[02:58] <iggy19> chbosky: from terminal, "gksudo /<path>/nicklistfifo"
[02:58] <noobie_> when i try to boot it says "modprobe: FATAL: Module index: unexpected error: EOF"
[02:58] <tsimpson> iggy19: what?
[02:58] <soreau> skutr34: ln -s /some/path/somfile /some/path/somesymlink
[02:58] <noobie_> and it wouldn't boot
[02:58] <noobie_> apparently, modprobe doesn't work at all now
[02:59] <oldos2er> skutr34: openjdk or sun (oracle) java?
[02:59] <noobie_> did anyone encounter the same problem?
[02:59] <Rexodus> noobie_: do you have your old kernels?
[02:59] <rcmaehl> how do I strip text in terminal from like a grep result?
[02:59] <noobie_> um, no
[03:00] <maco> rcmaehl: awk or cut or sed
[03:00] <maco> rcmaehl: depending on exactly what you want to get rid of
[03:00] <iggy19> chbosky: from terminal, "gksudo gedit /<path>/nicklistfifo"  --- sorry about the bad command earlier!
[03:00] <noobie_> my oldest one is 2.6.35.27
[03:00] <rcmaehl> marco everything to the left or right
[03:00] <chbosky> oh, ok iggy19
[03:00] <maco> rcmaehl: of the : ?
[03:01] <chbosky> the other one didn't work
[03:01] <chbosky> ?:p
[03:01] <maco> rcmaehl: grep foo | cut -d: -f 1
[03:01] <maco> rcmaehl: for eveything left
[03:01] <maco> rcmaehl: 2 for right
[03:01] <noobie_> neither 2.6.35.27 not 2.6.35.28 work
[03:02] <oldos2er> noobie: can you boot into recovery mode?
[03:02] <noobie_> no
[03:02] <Jasonn> !nick | noobie_
[03:02] <Rexodus> noobie_: does that distro boot from live-cd?
[03:02] <Jasonn> noobie_: Wrong one, sorry
[03:02] <gustavo> alo, alguem em portugues?
[03:02] <Rexodus> noobie_: as should be
[03:02] <Fiveways> nit-wit: sorry, I'm using webchat, had to refresh haha. http://pastebin.com/BMibhh0p
[03:03] <Jasonn> !pt | gustavo
[03:03] <noobie_> seems like modprobe doesn't work at all now, so it can't load fs modules, hence cannot boot
[03:03] <noobie_> i don't have an ubuntu cd on me
[03:03] <gustavo> ei jasoon
[03:03] <nit-wit> Fiveways, I notice a couple of things sde2 looks like the latest install but it has both grus
[03:03] <Rexodus> Can U make 1?
[03:03] <nit-wit> *grubs
[03:03] <noobie_> right now i'm on LFS livecd that's several years old
[03:04] <gustavo> desculpe, não sei usar irc
[03:04] <Rexodus> No, this version ofcourse
[03:04] <noobie_> it worked okay until today's update
[03:04] <tjiggi_fo> !br | gustavo
[03:04] <Fiveways> nit-wit: so what should I do to resolve it? I'm just confused because it says that grub2 is installed on sda
[03:05] <insanity99> hey guys i've got the gog version of heroes of might and magic complete. how can i make it run in ubuntu?
[03:05] <gustavo> muito obrigado!
[03:05] <Rexodus> Yeah, I know. That's why I wanna know if the live-cd works
[03:05] <insanity99> hey guys i've got the gog version of heroes of might and magic complete. how can i make it run in ubuntu?
[03:05] <Charles`> ls
[03:05] <MeanEYE> insanity99: linux version or windows
[03:05] <Charles`> err
[03:05] <nit-wit> Fiveways, yes it loks like you tied to reload grub if so with what disc
[03:05] <insanity99> its an exe
[03:06] <MeanEYE> insanity99: then it's a windows... you can run it using wine but network play will be crippled
[03:06] <nit-wit> Fiveways, I opened a dialogue
[03:06] <noobie_> i could try to burn one, but it's going to take forever to download the image, burn it and boot from it
[03:06] <noobie_> my internet here is not very fast and stable
[03:06] <noobie_> what are the possibilities of what could be the problem?
[03:06] <Rexodus> Hmmm
[03:06] <Rexodus> everything :)
[03:06] <hoddd> action/ slaps johhn with a big large trout
[03:07] <insanity99> MeanEYE, yeah but sound disapears after so long for some reason.
[03:07] <noobie_> did anyone ever encounter something like that?
[03:07] <MeanEYE> insanity99: start winecfg and in sound configuration make sure your sound is emulated. that should fix problems with your sound
[03:07] <dejan_> is it ok to install many packages at same time from synaptic?
[03:07] <MeanEYE> dejan_: da
[03:07] <tsimpson> dejan_: yes, that's what it's designed to do
[03:08] <insanity99> what sound driver should i choose?
[03:08] <oldos2er> noobie: i know this doesn't help you, but I've never encountered a problem with updates that severe
[03:09] <Rexodus> dejan_: no probs.
[03:09] <noobie_> i don't even know if depmod still works in later ubuntu versions
[03:09] <insanity99> MeanEYE, should i use default?
[03:09] <insanity99> ALSA
[03:09] <oldos2er> i usually keep several kernels installed, just in case
[03:09] <MeanEYE> insanity99: don't change the driver (should be either alsa or pulseaudio)... on the bottom of that window you have Hardware Acceleration
[03:10] <insanity99> oh ok set from full to emulation?
[03:10] <MeanEYE> insanity99: yep...
[03:10] <MeanEYE> insanity99: that fixed it in my case anyway
[03:10] <insanity99> thanks
[03:10] <noobie_> is there any way to run depmod from chroot?
[03:11] <Rexodus> oldos2er: I've encountered manny problems during upgrades... All the time.
[03:11] <insanity99> MeanEYE, anything else you recommend i change i config?
[03:11] <Rexodus> That wy I prefer a fresh install
[03:11] <extra11> :D
[03:12] <noobie_> reinstalling is kind of a windows way
[03:12] <MeanEYE> insanity99: for HoMM, no not really. there's a linux version of HoMM but it's only first in HoMM 3 series (not Armageddons Blade or others)...
[03:12] <noobie_> i would prefer to keep my current install
[03:12] <insanity99> ok thanks
[03:12] <speedrunnerG55> hey fellow linux uers
[03:12] <extra11> hey friend
[03:12] <Rexodus> noobie_: I agree. Most of the time..
[03:12] <MeanEYE> speedrunnerG55: hello
[03:13] <rcmaehl> Why doesn't pcspkr work?
[03:13] <charley__> can anyone help with this?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1704587
[03:15] <matthew> ollo
[03:15] <noobie_> so i found there are 2.6.35-27-generic and 2.6.35-28-generic subdirs in my /lib/modules
[03:16] <noobie_> surprisingly, no earlier kernels
[03:16] <gpled> how can i get x window to rebuild?
[03:16] <Guest11439> how to i install firefox 4.0 on ubuntu
[03:16] <MeanEYE> gpled: what do you mean by rebuild?
[03:16] <MeanEYE> gpled: like from the source code, or just restart it?
[03:17] <gpled> MeanEYE: i had to change vidoe cards
[03:17] <Jasonn> Guest11439: Its not recommended, but you have to download the beta .tar.gz from the mozilla website and manually-install it
[03:17] <MeanEYE> gpled: ooh, that... from which to which cared?
[03:17] <fisix> Guest11439: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[03:17] <MeanEYE> card*
[03:17] <Guest11439> thanks
[03:17] <gpled> ati
[03:17] <noobie_> so i chrooted into where my old system root was mounted and did depmod -a 2.6.35.27-generic and depmod -a 2.6.35.28-generic
[03:17] <fisix> Guest11439, search for firefox
[03:17] <gpled> have no x right now
[03:17] <fisix> gpled, then how are you on irc?
[03:18] <insanity99> MeanEYE, sorry but the sound is stuttering
[03:18] <MeanEYE> gpled: if you switched from ati to nvidia, that can be a problem
[03:18] <oldos2er> there's a firefox 4 ppa: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-firefox-4-0-beta-using-ubuntu-ppa.html
[03:18] <insanity99> MeanEYE, sorry but the sound is stuttering
[03:18] <MeanEYE> insanity99: :/ then revert back to hardware acceleration and try a different sound driver
[03:19] <gpled> MeanEYE: its worse. i went from nvidia to ati :(
[03:19] <Xinux> gpled: What do you mean by no X?
[03:19] <Xinux> gpled: As in it's not working / not installed, or it is not running
[03:19] <noobie_> i dunno if it helps, it seems like there was modules.dep file already
[03:19] <gpled> Xinux: i can boot to cli but no x
[03:19] <insanity99> sorry if that was already posted, when i typed it in i realised that the channel was inactive, no messages appearing. keeps happening to me on xchat
[03:20] <oldos2er> gpled: can you run startx?
[03:20] <gpled> oldos2er: it fails
[03:20] <MeanEYE> Xinux: he changed from nVidia to ATI graphic card, and system won't start X
[03:20] <Rexodus> gpled: or gdm?
[03:20] <Rexodus> ok
[03:20] <gpled> i was hoping for some nifty cammand line apt-get to tell x to rescan for current video card
[03:21] <noobie_> anyone knows how this things work in newer ubuntus? with all the late changes i'm not sure anymore
[03:21] <oldos2er> gpled: boot to recovery mode, run apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati
[03:21] <Rexodus> I guess you need to edit your /etc/X11/Xorg.conf.
[03:21] <gpled> grrr, no mouse :)
[03:21] <MeanEYE> oldos2er: hey there! :)
[03:21] <gpled> will try and type it
[03:22] <oldos2er> hey where? :)
[03:22] <speedrunnerG55> .minecraft
[03:22] <gpled> oldos2er: can you pm me that command so it does not scroll off
[03:22] <oldos2er> just a sec.
[03:22] <airtonix> using ubuntu maverick, disconnect from any networks (unplug lan cables, disengage warp drives, etc etc) i launch evince  and it never loads... replug in lan cable and/or other network, evince then loads when requested. whats up with that ?
[03:22] <MeanEYE> oldos2er: here :P... I just remembered your nick from one of threads on ubuntu forums... :D about my file manager, Sunflower :) if you remember
[03:23] <oldos2er> MeanEYE: I remember
[03:23] <insanity99> sound wont work on other drivers :\
[03:23] <MeanEYE> <3
[03:23] <airtonix> since when did evince require a network connection to look at a pdf on my destop?
[03:23] <oldos2er> did you ever find a two pane fm?
[03:23]  * noobie_ sighs
[03:23] <MeanEYE> oldos2er: :D I made my own ... :D
[03:23] <oldos2er> that's one way to solve a problem...
[03:23] <noobie_> well... back to google, i guess
[03:24] <oldos2er> sorry noobie, don't know what to tell you
[03:24] <gpled> ok, got the command in. it is working away
[03:24] <oldos2er> gpled: let us know how it goes
[03:24] <gpled> glad i have irssi :)
[03:24] <gpled> k, off to reboot
[03:24] <gpled> thanks
[03:25] <oldos2er> gpled: me too  :)
[03:26] <charley__> anyone help me with this?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1704587
[03:26] <Guest37756> fuck
[03:26] <dribble> any one know of a speach to text that can take audio <.aup> files and convert to words
[03:26] <Guest37756> hey all
[03:26] <dejan_> i istalled phpmyadmin on ubuntu apache2 with synaptic now it say reconfigure automativly server i have 2 serevrs apache and lighttpd what is lihttpd?
[03:27] <MeanEYE> dejan_: web server just like apache...
[03:27] <dejan_> i installed only apache why is instlled this server too?
[03:27] <bastidrazor> dejan_: have you ever tried to do any research on your own?
[03:27] <dejan_> bastidrazor: yes without success
[03:28] <dribble> is there a text to speach program
[03:28] <MeanEYE> dejan_: if installation is asking to choose one of those two, just choose the one you have installed
[03:28] <KM0201> !info orca | dribble
[03:28] <dejan_> is this some trojan? :(
[03:28] <KM0201> hmm
[03:28] <dejan_> MeanEYE: why the other server is there too
[03:28] <dejan_> is this trojan?
[03:28] <dejan_> i installed only apache
[03:29] <MeanEYE> dribble: there are libraries for python and similar
[03:29] <oldos2er> it's gnome-orca
[03:29] <MeanEYE> dejan_: phpmyadmin can use those 2, it doesn't detect which one you have and no it's not a trojan
[03:29] <dribble> I have a text to speak but I don't know if can do speach to text
[03:29] <dejan_> MeanEYE: ok thanks
[03:29] <Guest37756> u still use phpmyadmin ..                     ///???
[03:29] <dejan_> why not
[03:29] <dejan_> hat to use else?
[03:29] <fizyplankton> is there any way to force ubuntu to uodate the battery info? it says its at 100 % (that was my other battery) but the light on my laptop shows that clearly the batters is dead (and i know that it is dead. i drained it this morning). it pisses me off how i have to wait for it to check the battery status. is there any way to force it to check?
[03:29] <dejan_> what*
[03:30] <kli0rf> morning
[03:30] <oldos2er> evening
[03:30] <\share> night
[03:30] <kli0rf> anyone could tell me what's the name of this theme: http://static.arstechnica.net/assets/2010/03/ubuntu_darktheme-thumb-640xauto-12418.jpg ?
[03:31] <syrinx_> kli0rf: looks like darktheme?
[03:31] <oldos2er> ambiance, i think
[03:31] <kli0rf> is there a place i could download this theme?
[03:31] <dejan_> are there trojans for ubuntu?
[03:31] <syrinx_> its a default
[03:31] <kli0rf> want to install it on debian
[03:31] <johny-b-goode> hello ppl
[03:31] <fizyplankton> dejan_ virtualy no
[03:31] <ivanBliminse> hello all.. i'm trying to type an ascii code into GEDIT but when I hold the alt, it highlights the options at the top.. (like alt+f for file)... anyway around this?
[03:31] <MeanEYE> kli0rf: it's an ambiance theme from 10.04
[03:31] <johny-b-goode> is there a way to downgrade a package?
[03:31] <kli0rf> MeanEYE: thanks! :)
[03:32] <oldos2er> kli0rf: go to packages.ubuntu.com, search for ambiance
[03:32] <dejan_> fizyplankton: virtually what that means
[03:32] <fizyplankton> dejan_, there ARE viruses, but they are EXTREMELY unlikely. macs are 10x more likely to get viruses than linux
[03:32] <sacarlson> dejan_: I could write you one if you  want one.  problem is they would be imposible to install by accident
[03:32] <MeanEYE> kli0rf: on ubuntu-ard.org there should be some similar modifications... but that theme had really ugly progress bars and other controls... to me, new Ambiance is great
[03:33] <josh1> I am using xubuntu, (nobody seems on their channel) how do I make a sd card automount on boot?
[03:33] <dejan_> sacarlson: why imposible to install
[03:33] <dejan_> i istall some software and they can be there?
[03:33] <kli0rf> mmm, but i can't find ambiance on packages.ubuntu.org.. :/
[03:33] <bc81> hi.  i want to update milkytracker from this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~philip5/+archive/extra  but not blender or anything else.  if i apt-add-repository, won't it want to upgrade other software too?  if so, can that be avoided?
[03:33] <sacarlson> dejan_: because this is open source so the code can be seen be millions so you can't hide it
[03:33] <fizyplankton> dejan_ because linux permissions are vastly different that windows
[03:33] <dejan_> so are there any actual viruses esepcially trojans ?
[03:33] <dejan_> um
[03:33] <ivanBliminse> I suppose I need to know how to make gnome highlight the toolbar on a full press of "ALT" instead of just holding it down, does anyone know where that setting is?
[03:33] <fizyplankton> dejan_, yes, but they are EXTREMELY unlikely
[03:33] <maco> dejan_: trojans are not a type of virus.
[03:33] <maco> dejan_: viruses and trojans are both a type of malware
[03:33] <oldos2er> kli0rf, my bad, look for light-themes instead.
[03:34] <Random832> sacarlson: er, how is it impossible to install by accident
[03:34] <\share> there should be a button to close dvd/cdrom drive!
[03:34] <Random832> also, "accident' is a sliding scale
[03:34] <maco> dejan_: the last virus i recall for linux was in 2007. it was an OOo macro virus
[03:34] <\share> eject -T
[03:34] <dejan_> so if i install some software can there be trojan in it? and someone to hack me easy and go into my server pc use my iternet conection slow my pc delte files?
[03:34] <maco> dejan_: there was a trojan on gnome-look.org last year
[03:34] <Random832> you can trick someone into installing it
[03:34] <MeanEYE> dejan_: somewhere I've read there are only 15 or so viruses for linux... most of them for old linuxes, like from 1998 or something like that.
[03:34] <oldos2er> ambiance should be in the light-themes package
[03:34] <thraspic> How can I determine the location of the icon used by the applet "volume control" in my task bar?  I searched for icon files and found loads, but none matched.  I'm using LXDE.
[03:34] <maco> MeanEYE: more like 30, and thats only counting ones released into the wild
[03:34] <Random832> users always want to see the dancing pigs, and DAMMIT they will open a passworded zip file, compile the .c file within, and run it as root if they have to to get the dancing pigs
[03:34] <MeanEYE> maco: still a small number :)
[03:35] <maco> MeanEYE: a few hundred if you count proof-of-concept-to-fix-a-bug-but-never-released
[03:35] <sacarlson> Random832: I think I should have said almost impossible, is that better?
[03:35] <\share> hell ubuntuers how r u
[03:35] <maco> MeanEYE: thats also only counting oens that are *actually* viruses
[03:35] <bc81> \share: you can make one by adding a custom application launcher to your panel etc
[03:35] <maco> MeanEYE: since there are many types of malware that aren't viruses
[03:35] <Random832> there is no way to engineer idiots out of the system
[03:35] <\share> bc81: I use a keyboard shortcut
[03:35] <\share> :p
[03:35] <bc81> \share: ok
[03:35] <MeanEYE> maco: yeah, I know... just saying also community patches things rather quickly
[03:35] <syrinx_> Random832: truer words never spoken
[03:35] <\share> bc81: but thereis a button to close it :\
[03:35] <maco> MeanEYE: sure
[03:36] <sacarlson> Random832: well this is true but that's why if you stay within the repository it is much less likely
[03:36] <johny-b-goode> is there a way to downgrade a package?
[03:36] <Vesuivius> I am having trouble changing permissions and ownership of my ipod in ubuntu, can anyone help?
[03:36] <syrinx_> not always that easy sacarlson
[03:37] <kli0rf> mmm, i found something named maverick
[03:37] <kli0rf> but nothing related to ambiance..
[03:37] <oldos2er> kli0rf: maverick is ubuntu 10.10
[03:38] <MeanEYE> kli0rf: you need maverick ambiance theme?
[03:38] <sacarlson> syrinx_:  Random832: I can't argue that fact
[03:38] <oldos2er> kli0rf: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=light-themes&searchon=names&suite=maverick&section=all
[03:39] <MeanEYE> kli0rf:
[03:39] <kli0rf> i probably need 10.4 theme..
[03:39] <MeanEYE> kli0rf: http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/light-themes
[03:39] <oldos2er> kli0rf: http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/light-themes
[03:39] <oldos2er> d'oh
[03:39] <MeanEYE> haha <3
[03:40] <syrinx_> hivemind
[03:40] <oldos2er> gmta
[03:40] <fizyplankton> is there any way to force ubuntu to uodate the battery info? it says its at 100 % (that was my other battery) but the light on my laptop shows that clearly the batters is dead (and i know that it is dead. i drained it this morning). it pisses me off how i have to wait for it to check the battery status. is there any way to force it to check?
[03:40] <MeanEYE> kli0rf: just change maverick part to lucid
[03:40] <oldos2er> fizyplankton: have you tried asking on ubuntuforums.org?
[03:41] <fizyplankton> oldos2er, no. irc is faster xD
[03:41] <kli0rf> ok, let me try
[03:41] <oldos2er> yes, but more people will see it and possibly know the answer on the forums
[03:41] <fizyplankton> yeah true
[03:41] <oldos2er> i am battery-ignorant
[03:42] <fizyplankton> lol
[03:42] <gpled> here is how i fixed it:  rebooted to safe. selected config graphics. selected restore x to default. and reboot
[03:42] <oldos2er> gpled: you fixed it? great!
[03:42] <gpled> yep, looks good now
[03:42] <kli0rf> wow!
[03:43] <kli0rf> geez, it looks awesome! :)
[03:43] <kli0rf> cool! thanks, guys :)
[03:43] <oldos2er> kli0rf: glad you found it
[03:43] <oldos2er> sure thing
[03:43] <sacarlson> fizyplankton: I read a bit about it in the past and I didn't find a solution withou cycleing the battery,  I'm not sure why that would be.  seems it some how runs partly on time
[03:43] <gpled> oldos2er: cool how old guys still remember command line :)  kind of fun getting in irc with no gui
[03:43] <MeanEYE> kli0rf: np :D have fun
[03:44] <fizyplankton> sacarlson w/o doing what now/???
[03:44] <ivanBliminse> Anyone know how to do ascii keys ?
[03:44] <MeanEYE> gpled: I use to be XChat fan, but irssi i ssooo much economical and better
[03:44] <MeanEYE> straight to the point :)
[03:44] <harmaz> is there a "list" function for apt-get? i haven't found it in the man page. basically, i want to know if [program] is out there before trying to install it
[03:44] <MeanEYE> harmaz: apt-get --help :D
[03:44] <gpled> MeanEYE: yep, irssi can get you out of a jam :)
[03:45] <MeanEYE> harmaz: ooh, you want to see if package exists?
[03:45] <syrinx_> <3 irssi
[03:45] <Aginor> harmaz: apt-cache search <name>
[03:45] <oldos2er> gpled: i was actually on the internet when it was all text.
[03:45] <Aginor> harmaz: or keyword, for example make
[03:45] <oldos2er> just yesterday, 1993
[03:45] <gpled> oldos2er: remember gopher :)
[03:45] <oldos2er> and archie, yeah
[03:45] <fizyplankton> does anyone know a command line irc client? i personally think that linux guis are an insult to the os
[03:46] <oldos2er> irssi!
[03:46] <MeanEYE> fizyplankton: irssi!!! :)
[03:46] <fizyplankton> irssi can be run in terminal?
[03:46] <MeanEYE> yeah
[03:46] <gpled> oldos2er: lol. and think their was a veronica
[03:46] <fizyplankton> whats the package name?
[03:46] <oldos2er> yeah
[03:46] <MeanEYE> fizyplankton: irssi
[03:46] <oldos2er> irssi
[03:46] <ivanBliminse> doh.. noone knows how to do ascii codes in ubuntu 10.04?
[03:46] <MeanEYE> :D
[03:46] <thraspic> irssi is great.
[03:46] <mike23pizzo> Hello.  I'm trying to build the dolphin emulator and seem to be running into some problems.  Is it possible anyone can help me?
[03:47] <gpled> oldos2er: back in the days when you would get banned if you said you want to sell something
[03:47] <MeanEYE> ivanBliminse: do you mean in terminal or any other application?
[03:47] <thraspic> ivanBliminse: not me.  I use the character map.
[03:47] <fizyplankton> ok. i never use the ubuntu software center, b/c i have a piece of crap 2004 dell inspiron 1100 laptop with only 128 FRICKING MEGS of ram. the gui is way too laggy'
[03:47] <oldos2er> yeah, back when i reported every spammer on usenet
[03:47] <sacarlson> fizyplankton: something like this http://www.eastwoodzhao.com/maintaining-and-calibrating-a-laptop-battery-pack/
[03:47] <ivanBliminse> MeanEYE, i'm trying to make a bullet (ALT+183) in GEDIT... but since the menu bar lights up when you hold alt down it wont let me...
[03:47] <fizyplankton> yeah. theres a reason i put linux on this sexy 128 megs of ram not windows
[03:47] <ivanBliminse> thraspic, can't find it there either
[03:47] <Griz64> having 'flash' issues. http://paste.pocoo.org/show/351705  is what i show as installed and most pages work, but some do not. can anyone here shed any light on this?? (purdy pleeze)
[03:48] <LittleRed> you too Griz64?
[03:48] <MeanEYE> ivanBliminse: check this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=383408
[03:48] <gpled> oldos2er: you ever use something call (i think) waffle
[03:48] <Griz64> LittleRed, uh, guess so.
[03:48] <thraspic> ivanBliminse: you could try the command gucharmap or install it
[03:48] <oldos2er> Griz64, try flashaid in firefox to install flash: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/flash-aid/
[03:49] <oldos2er> gpled: don't think i've heard of waffle
[03:49] <LittleRed> I downloaded the adobe 64bit beta, but I'm afraid to install it unless I get some feedback from here
[03:49] <gpled> oldos2er: think it was a bbs for internet berfore gui
[03:49] <oldos2er> LittleRed: 64 bit flash is more stable for me than 32 bit
[03:49] <soreau> I can't believe how long persistent usb takes to install packages. I guess it's significantly slower than disk hdd's
[03:49] <MeanEYE> oldos2er: 10.3?
[03:50] <LittleRed> on 10.10? oldos2er
[03:50] <ivanBliminse> MeanEYE, I think this will help, thanks
[03:50] <oldos2er> yes, on 10.10
[03:50] <oldos2er> whatever the latest flash 64 is
[03:50] <oldos2er> don't know the v. no.
[03:50] <MeanEYE> ivanBliminse: np :D
[03:50] <LittleRed> sweet... I crashed my system yesterday with a kernel upgrade, so I was a bit hesitant
[03:51] <gpled> welp, im off. thanks for the help, and the chat
[03:51] <oldos2er> bye gpled
[03:52] <naptastic> Is anyone else getting warnings / errors about Ubuntu packages being unsigned?
[03:52] <tripelb> hello. new phone - LG 900g., using USB cable. problems getting ubuntu to see it last night. had me to something to see the system errors code. I could not understand last night and too tired to learn it. Today I tried it in windows. Windows told me that it couldnt recognize it and I should disconnect and try it again and if it didnt work I should use another device. -- lastnight looked at fdisk and did - tail -f /var/log/syslog (results a
[03:52] <MeanEYE> naptastic: those are probably from ppa you added
[03:52] <mike23pizzo> Does anyone have any knowledge about installing Dolphin Emulator
[03:52] <LittleRed> naptastic... what version ubuntu?
[03:52] <naptastic> MeanEYE, no they're main. things like apt-mirror and libasound
[03:52] <naptastic> LittleRed, Ubuntu 10.10
[03:52] <oldos2er> naptastic: that's a faq. see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SecureApt
[03:53] <MeanEYE> naptastic: I don't have problems like those :/
[03:53] <LittleRed> no I reloaded 10.4 yestersay and then upgraded, no error messages on unsigned stuff
[03:53] <oldos2er> sometimes you might just need to run sudo apt-get update
[03:55] <oldos2er> see you all later. i gots to go
[03:55] <LittleRed> naptstic... what ones are giving you errors?
[03:57] <Vesuivius> can anyone help with changing permissions of a folder
[03:57] <ilokas> Some applications start but are not in the starting application under preferences, how can I edit them?
[03:58] <smw> Vesuivius, sure. GUI or CLI?
[03:58] <smw> Vesuivius, what file do you want to change the permissions on?
[03:58] <realgod> test
[03:59] <realgod> not pass
[03:59] <Vesuivius> smw: my Ipod that I have mounted is mounting as read only, i need to change it so it has read and write capability
[03:59] <MeanEYE> ilokas: can you rephrase that question with a little bit more details
[03:59] <smw> Vesuivius, that is caused by your ipod and not by linux.
[04:00] <smw> Vesuivius, http://davesource.com/Solutions/20080225.iPod-linux-read-only.html
[04:00] <smw> Vesuivius, google is great :-)
[04:00] <ankers> Hi guys, Can someone help me? :) no sound on ubuntu netbook on sony vaio but mainly need to get hdmi output to my tv but plug the cord in and nothing happens? works fine on windows..
[04:00] <Vesuivius> smw: thanks
[04:01] <ilokas> How do I manually edit the list of applications that start up automatically? I do not see the applications in the preferences -> start up programs (different name in english ubuntu)
[04:01] <smw> ankers, you plug in the cord and there is no video?
[04:01] <ankers> yeah my tv says searching for signals - but on windows7 its fine it comes straight up
[04:01] <smw> ankers, is there a video button?
[04:02] <smw> ankers, maybe one of the function keys has a rectangle with two bars on either side of it?
[04:02] <smw> ankers, on my HP laptop, it is f4
[04:02] <JeffDRO> Guys im trying to burn an ISO image that is a bootable CD. I burn it using brasero but when I try to boot off of it, it does not work
[04:03] <ankers> i have no idea what you mean lol
[04:03] <JeffDRO> what am i doing wrong
[04:03] <JeffDRO> it should be able to boot off but it does not work
[04:03] <ankers> oh ok, ill try that now
[04:03] <smw> ankers, do you have an HP?
[04:03] <ankers> sony vaio
[04:03] <smw> ankers, you found the symbol though?
[04:03] <JeffDRO> can anyone help me
[04:03] <LittleRed> JeffDRO... I'm assuming you did a data burn?
[04:03] <JeffDRO> littlered yes
[04:04] <JeffDRO> was that my problem?
[04:04] <smw> JeffDRO, you need to burn it as an image not data
[04:04] <JeffDRO> how do i burn it as an image?
[04:04] <ilokas> MeanEYE: Skype starts up by itself and also a text document and openoffice but I don't see them in the start up applications window under preferences
[04:04] <smw> JeffDRO, Look for something like "copy disk"
[04:04] <soreau> Hey guys, I cannot get apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade to complete. It fails with http://pastebin.com/u5ZvsHVb
[04:05] <smw> JeffDRO, or "burn image"
[04:05] <LittleRed> I made the mistake of burning iso to data on my MAC
[04:05] <JeffDRO> im using Furious ISO to burn the image
[04:05] <JeffDRO> it uses brasero and says burn image
[04:05] <JeffDRO> but after creating checksum
[04:05] <MeanEYE> ilokas: hm, weird... not sure how to help :/
[04:05] <JeffDRO> it doesn't burn
[04:05] <ankers> smw: i pressed all my F keys lol, in the taskbar were displays are i detect monitors but only laptop screen is on there.. is there somewhere i need to set the hdmi up?
[04:06] <ilokas> MeanEYE: Thank you for trieing
[04:06] <iggy19> So, seeing all the love for irssi (here too), I'm going to hope for some help with an irssi config issue that's been stumping me.
[04:06] <smw> ankers, did you press the fn key also?
[04:06] <JeffDRO> oh i think i got it to work
[04:06] <JeffDRO> its burning now
[04:06] <smw> ankers, let me find an image
[04:06] <MeanEYE> ilokas: ask again, someone might know
[04:06] <JeffDRO> says Burning Image to DVD
[04:07] <JeffDRO> should work right?
[04:07] <tripelb> hello. new phone - LG 900g., using USB cable. problems getting ubuntu to see it last night. had me to something to see the system errors code. I could not understand last night and too tired to learn it. Today I tried it in windows. Windows told me that it couldnt recognize it and I should disconnect and try it again and if it didnt work I should use another device. -- lastnight looked at fdisk and did - tail -f /var/log/syslog (results a
[04:07] <LittleRed> JeffDRO.. sounds right
[04:07] <fizyplankton> for all you irssi ppl, how do i close a "tab" so to speak? like a channel. how can i get it off the queye
[04:07] <MeanEYE> fizyplankton: /window close
[04:07] <ankers> i never knew there was an FN key? my F7 key says [LCD] but that didnt do anything
[04:08] <smw> ankers, odd :-\
[04:08] <MeanEYE> tripelb: is contents of your phone browsable from the phone itself?
[04:08] <tripelb> MeanEYE: yes
[04:08] <JeffDRO> bye bye ubuntu
[04:08] <JeffDRO> i need my windows to game
[04:08] <smw> ankers, FN+F8?
[04:09] <MeanEYE> JeffDRO: nooo, windoze is evil
[04:09] <JeffDRO> i need to play computer games!
[04:09] <LittleRed> JeffDRO install Wine
[04:09] <MeanEYE> tripelb: and windows is not seeing it as well?
[04:09] <gartral> JeffDRO: ubunru runs most games better than windows
[04:09] <smw> ankers, http://www.ehow.com/how_4794887_external-monitor-sony-vaio-laptop.html
[04:09] <LittleRed> or an emulator
[04:09] <iggy19> Basically, I've set up irssi to log me into two different servers, upon startup, each on different chatnets.  Want to identify for a different nick on the two different chatnets (preferred nick is owned on one of the nets), but irssi doesn't seem to hold onto the different nick settings -- that is, i'm iggy19 on both chatnets, despite my identify command apparently working for the other nick on the other net
[04:09] <smw> ankers, step 2
[04:10] <gartral> iggy19: try in #irssi
[04:10] <JeffDRO> gartral how do i run games?
[04:10] <soreau> I need some help with persistent live usb: I cannot get apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade to complete. It fails with http://pastebin.com/u5ZvsHVb
[04:10] <ankers> thanks heaps, ill give it a shot, i did try google it myself but i didnt find anything.. ill try this now
[04:10] <MeanEYE> iggy19: start irssi with --nick :D
[04:10] <JeffDRO> gartral i want to play Team Fortress 2
[04:10] <JeffDRO> which runs off steam
[04:10] <JeffDRO> will i be able to play it?
[04:10] <smw> ankers, what really ticked me off is that I had to change sound settings to get audio through hdmi :-\
[04:11] <gartral> JeffDRO: YES! TF2 runs great in wine
[04:11] <JeffDRO> hmm
[04:11] <JeffDRO> maybe i wont be leaving ubuntu lol
[04:11] <gartral> JeffDRO: first step is too install wine.. then steam :)
[04:11] <nit-wit> soreau, you don't want kernel update on the persistent install
[04:11] <JeffDRO> gartral another reason i was going back to windows was because i need microsoft office for school
[04:11] <needle_> 23:11 -!- Irssi: Join to #ubuntu was synced in 1 secs
[04:11] <JeffDRO> gartral how can i run office in ubuntu?
[04:12] <soreau> nit-wit: Erm, I expect to be able to upgrade it
[04:12] <LittleRed> JeffDRO.. I use open office for work and just save in windows format
[04:12] <smw> !alternatives | JeffDRO
[04:12] <ankers> smw, i have no audio... i have played with alsa and nothing :( but it only really matters if i get picture/sound onto my tv threw hdmi because thats all i use... where is the FN key though? lol
[04:12] <smw> JeffDRO, wrong keyword :-\
[04:12] <gartral> JeffDRO: unless you need the encrypted docs portion of ms office, openoffice will open, and edit those docs..
[04:12] <soreau> nit-wit: At least, I expect apt to be able to complete upgrade
[04:12] <ankers> oh wait i found it
[04:12] <JeffDRO> littlered open office won't work, there are certain features i need that open office doesn't have
[04:12] <smw> ankers, next to the ctrl key
[04:13] <speedrunnerG55> i want to be the verry best
[04:13] <LittleRed> JeffDRO...like what?
[04:13] <speedrunnerG55> that no one ever was
[04:13] <speedrunnerG55> to catch them is my real test
[04:13] <gartral> LittleRed: document security
[04:13] <speedrunnerG55> to train them is my cause
[04:13] <smw> JeffDRO, I have only found one feature that I missed not having on openoffice...
[04:13] <JeffDRO> like creating cover pages, formatting docs, cetain things that i cant do in open office
[04:14] <LittleRed> JeffDRO... you can password it.. and there are encryption tools out there
[04:14] <gartral> JeffDRO: both of those things are available in open office, you jet do them slightly differently
[04:14] <smw> JeffDRO, There are instructions for running it in wine probably. But I have to ask why you want to use linux...
[04:14] <JeffDRO> well im using linux for my programming class
[04:14] <JeffDRO> its a lot easier to use linux than windows
[04:14] <fizy[laptop]> true dat JeffDRO
[04:15] <gartral> smw: thats easy, it's leaner and meaner than windows ever hopes too be
[04:15] <smw> gartral, meaner to users :-P. (sorry, I had to say it)
[04:15] <JeffDRO> the only drawback is open office is giving me troubles with my assignments in my online classes
[04:15] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all! I have a whale of a problem. I want to use a trial version of jacket with matlab. Problem: student version of matlab is only 32 bit, Ubuntu 10.10 is 64 bit, so Jacket uses 64 bit, can't read mex files. Does anyone have any experience with this issue?
[04:15] <smw> JeffDRO, how so?
[04:15] <ankers> smw, no luck.. :( ill try google some more
[04:15] <JeffDRO> thats why i wanted to go back to windows and then install ubuntu back dual boot
[04:16] <smw> ankers, ok, sorry :-(.
[04:16] <fizy[laptop]> lol. i never used word. i just used good ol' monospace font notepad
[04:16] <JeffDRO> well its cause word is a requirement for my class
[04:16] <fizy[laptop]> then that class has issues
[04:16] <JeffDRO> its an online college
[04:16] <smw> JeffDRO, dual boot is good. I still find that openoffice does everything I need for school.
[04:16] <gartral> JeffDRO: i would drop the class till they don't support Word anymore >.>
[04:16] <ankers> thats okay, i posted a thread on ubuntu forums so maybe someone will know on there
[04:17] <JeffDRO> most of the essay assignments are done in word
[04:17] <tripelb> MeanEYE: true windows sees it but knows it cant recognize it. (hopethat makes sense. == sorry for the delay, phone.
[04:17] <JeffDRO> and all of the classes require office
[04:17] <smw> JeffDRO, and? Why not use openoffice anyways
[04:17] <fizy[laptop]> go to wikiversity
[04:17] <smw> JeffDRO, it is compatable with word...
[04:17] <MeanEYE> tripelb: hm, he sees the device itself but filesystem is probably different, any settings on your phone about USB mode or something like that?
[04:18] <smw> JeffDRO, except polynomial regression in spreadsheet... I want that feature!
[04:18] <tripelb> MeanEYE: phone info says it should be transparent
[04:18] <iggy19> MeanEYE: I have a config file set up to issue my identify command to nickserv upon login, which works, but irssi only seems to "remember" on of the nicks.
[04:18] <LittleRed> JeffDRO, I'm a BSA and do all my reuirements in oen office... save as word format and no one in the office has ever noticed
[04:18] <tripelb> MeanEYE:  says it's easy, plug and play http://saveonprepaidphones.com/lg900g_file_transfer_data_cable
[04:19] <LittleRed> wow, I can't type worth shit with acrylic nails!
[04:19] <MeanEYE> iggy19: http://blog.dhampir.no/content/irssi-auto-connect-and-auto-identify
[04:19] <soreau> nit-wit: Is there a way to hold ack all kernel packages so apt-get upgrade will succeed on persistent live usb?
[04:19] <soreau> back*
[04:19] <tripelb> littlerad, someone should make bumpers to fit on your fingers, over the tips, to protect the nails.
[04:20]  * tripelb laffs at sven's svennick
[04:20] <LittleRed> tripelb... I wish.... but hey, thy look awesome!
[04:20] <soreau> LittleRed: not from here
[04:21] <soreau> thy looke leik mispelliengs
[04:21] <ankers> smw, maybe it would help if i install my nvidia drivers first lol, i know its nvidia geforce but not sure what else, is there a way to detect it? seeing as nvidia only supports auto detection on there website for windows
[04:21] <Anon31> which is better? open office, or libreoffice?
[04:21] <nit-wit> soreau, not sure why the upgrade is not working, the kernels can be ticked off in update manager
[04:21] <soreau> nit-wit: ugh, ok
[04:21] <MeanEYE> Anon31: LibreOffice, better support for MS Office files... also it's the right way to go :D
[04:21] <LittleRed> soreau... sorry... but I don't resemle Garcia from Criminal Minds... more like Abby from NCIS
[04:21] <smw> ankers alt+f2 then type gksu jockey-gtk
[04:22] <nit-wit> soreau, your familiar that this type of install has limitations, it is mainly just running gthe ISO
[04:22] <Anon31> oh yeah... i have the exact same problem, for my Acer Aspire M1660
[04:22] <soreau> LittleRed: Anyone anywhere that watches any of those shows is shallow so
[04:22] <Anon31> video drivers...
[04:22] <tripelb> meaneye thanks for reminding me of the name libreoffice. openoffice never works for me. I rank it right up there with Synaptic.
[04:22] <tripelb> down there
[04:22] <smw> ankers, or system -> administration -> additional drivers
[04:23] <MeanEYE> tripelb: np :D...
[04:23] <soreau> nit-wit: No, I'm not. This is my first experience really messing with booting persistent live usb
[04:23] <LittleRed> soreau... thats ok, it's only background noise... I spend most of my days and nights on the 'puter
[04:23] <Anon31> hey, i said Libre office first... :(
[04:23] <ankers> swm, cool, its downloading it now :D
[04:23] <soreau> LittleRed: To buntu-ot with you
[04:23] <Guest13259> I just installed 10.10 with wubi, I've let it update and download ati driverers. After rebooting my bootscreen is not tha ubuntu logo + text and while/orange dots. It's pixelated text 10.10 and the bots are now squares. Like the resolution changed to a lower one
[04:24] <bc81> any milkytracker users in here?  i need help getting it to recognize my input device in Ubuntu 10.10 (http://www.ionaudio.com/discoverkeyboardusb).  the keyboard works in other programs (VMPK, Piano Booster etc.) but not milky (v0.90.85).  any suggestions?
[04:25] <ankers> smw, i need to restart now.. i'll be back shortly as i think im slowly getting there ;D thank you very much
[04:25] <LittleRed> soreau... geez a littl break here... I work from home and need the company... being single sucks
[04:26] <skxx> alright i'm getting sick of all these goofy-ass problems with xu. i'm reintalling vanilla.
[04:27] <tripelb> meaneye any help re the phone?
[04:27] <iggy19> MeanEYE: want to understand why my config (which seems like it should work) is broken.  Going to move to #irssi.  Feel free to follow.  Thanks!
[04:27] <Fiveways> I screwed up when installing ubuntu and overwrote my windows bootloader. I repaired it, updated grub to get it to recognize the windows installation, but when I boot I never see the grub list, it goes straight into ubuntu. any way I can force grub to show itself on boot?
[04:27] <MeanEYE> iggy19: you have fun there :P
[04:27] <skxx> bc81: i use milky but i have no idea how to help you out man.. srry
[04:27] <AnubArack> .ns identify qazqaz
[04:27] <MeanEYE> tripelb: hm, am not quite sure... which OS is on that phone?
[04:27] <AnubArack> ffffffffff
[04:27] <AnubArack> great
[04:27] <tripelb> meaneye maybe it's a bad phone. I want one picture off of it, sob. I was going to return it anyway. I have another one on order, skip story.
[04:28] <FarkingBish> !identify > Guest99836
[04:28] <bc81> skxx: no worries..i'm pulling my hair trying to get it working :-)
[04:28] <iggy19> MeanEYE: we'll see.  ;-)
[04:28] <tripelb> meaneye, it's a java phone. I dont know what the os is and I dont know how to tell
[04:28] <skxx> bc81: what's the problem your having?
[04:28] <skxx> bc81: you're*
[04:28] <MeanEYE> tripelb: :D open www.sendspace.com on your phone... upload the damn thing... download on your computer and return the bastard :D
[04:28] <MeanEYE> tripelb: can you give me the model again?
[04:29] <tripelb> How can I remove openoffice Ub 10.04? I could google how to I suppose.
[04:29] <bc81> skxx: well, i have the MIDI keyboard plugged in via USB.  everything works fine (i can use it in other programs that accept MIDI input) but it won't work in MilyTracker.
[04:29] <tripelb> LG 900g  http://tracfone.deviceanywhere.com/straighttalk/home.seam?custId=STLG900G&locale=en_US  and  http://saveonprepaidphones.com/lg900g_file_transfer_data_cable
[04:29] <AnubArack> so hate it when that happens
[04:29] <MeanEYE> tripelb: :D open synaptic, find open office and remove everything :D
[04:29] <bc81> i know it's possible, from google searching i can't don't know how it's done
[04:29] <AnubArack> tnx for the assist FarkingBish
[04:30] <FarkingBish> np
[04:30] <AnubArack> i guess i need to go to sleep
[04:30] <AnubArack> fut i want to fix this problem first
[04:30] <bc81> skxx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1420392
[04:31] <AnubArack> I just installed 10.10 with wubi, I've let it update and download ati drivers. After rebooting my bootscreen is not tha ubuntu logo + text and while/orange dots. It's pixelated text 10.10 and the bots are now squares. Like the resolution changed to a lower one
[04:31] <tripelb> meaneye your answer just before telling me about synaptic.  (I want to do it in terminal. I have a heckle with synaptic. we come from different worlds. It just annoys me. I have never made it work. yadda yadda) Apt-Forget maybe?
[04:31] <MeanEYE> tripelb: give me a moment to dig out the package name
[04:31] <LittleRed> anubArack... what video card do you have?
[04:32] <AnubArack> Lithrem, Ati Radeon 4600 series
[04:32] <MeanEYE> tripelb: sudo apt-get purge openoffice.org && sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:32] <MeanEYE> tripelb: that should do it
[04:32] <AnubArack> oups wrong tab
[04:32] <LittleRed> is it identified by the OS?
[04:32] <MeanEYE> if not, you need to kill every package manually
[04:32] <AnubArack> LittleRed, ati radeon 4670
[04:33] <tripelb> meaneye, np. I will go and take some chinese medicine.. oh that was fast. and now for the phone. (It's so good that I copied the entire discussion from last night.) I was sick and now I'm weller!
[04:33] <LittleRed> hummm, there is command lne to set the resolution...but I've had too much to drink and can't think of it
[04:33] <nit-wit> Fiveways, did you get back into a working setup?
[04:34] <MeanEYE> tripelb: also you can apt-get purge openoffice.org*
[04:35] <tripelb> meaneye ? Package openoffice.org is not installed, so not removed
[04:35] <tripelb>  -- but it shows in the menu
[04:36] <tripelb> meaneye - hot. that did it.
[04:36] <jiltdil> how to use ssh in wan ?
[04:36] <smw> jiltdil, define "wan"
[04:37] <jiltdil> wide area network
[04:37] <tripelb> meaneye, I'm a cli kind of girl in some ways. It's clean. I remember in the wayback, haha, avoiding learning any JCL. That dates me, eh?
[04:37] <smw> jiltdil, I do not understand what you mean "ssh in wan"
[04:37] <AnubArack> LittleRed, something with # GRUB_GFXMODE ?
[04:38] <LittleRed> AnubArack... give me a sec to get the book
[04:38] <jiltdil> SiiW: ok u don't take tntion
[04:39] <tripelb> meaneye, I've a need to find a teaching book that suits me. learning about linux from an intelligent understanding -not lists of stuff reference- way. Think the mind of early macintoshers. Caltech. I look and look but it's not clear "what does a kernel do?" it's either a gloss or I'm stuck in quicksand
[04:39] <jiltdil> !ssh
[04:39] <LittleRed> AnubArack... have you tried restricted drivers>
[04:40] <LittleRed> I had an icon in the top menu bar... and when I clicked it it opened a window with restriced drivers I could use
[04:41] <AnubArack> LittleRed,  the proprietary ones form ati/amsd
[04:41] <AnubArack> I have those
[04:42] <schibidumm> loeli
[04:42] <AnubArack> LittleRed, http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/29tbdb0y/AdditionalDrivers_001.png
[04:43] <StepNjump> Oh ActionParsnip isn't here tonight? Hi everyone!
[04:43] <StepNjump> Hi Chipzzz
[04:44] <AnubArack> LittleRed, is this any good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfwVWU84cnQ ?
[04:44] <LittleRed> AnubArack try googling command line resolution change in Ubuntu
[04:44] <Zmathews> hello ?
[04:45] <Zmathews> hello ?
[04:45] <StepNjump> Hi guys, I have a USB Wifi dongle. Strangely it works when I have Ubuntu to run under 'trial mode' but after having Ubuntu Maverick installed, it doesn't detect the chipset
[04:45] <Zmathews> anyone going to talk ?
[04:45] <bazhang> Zmathews, ubuntu support question?
[04:45] <StepNjump> hi zmathews... sometimes people sleep
[04:45] <Trae> gnome3...  wut?
[04:45] <nit-wit> Zmathews, stae your problem no hello's
[04:45] <LittleRed> AnubArack... the first time I installed the nvidia driver on my desktop I did it all through command line
[04:46] <LittleRed> I just can't remember the commands
[04:46] <LittleRed> but it is out there
[04:46] <StepNjump> take notes next time!
[04:46] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: check if you have usb-modeswitch package isntalled
[04:46] <StepNjump> tnx MeanEye... I'll chk
[04:46] <Trae> is there a general chat channel where we can takl about things in Ubuntu without messing up #ubuntu?
[04:46] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic Trae
[04:46] <MeanEYE> Trae: ubuntu-offtopic
[04:47] <Trae> hmm ok.
[04:47] <Trae> kinda want to talk about ubuntu but thanks ;)
[04:47] <maco> Trae: its just the not-tech-support channel
[04:47] <maco> Trae: if you want to talk about like....new themes or features or whatever, -ot is good
[04:49] <ankers> smn, holy crap! LOL it updated to nvidia driver, i boot up and my screen is all messed up, like 2 screens and i cant do anything, so i logged on using gnome and i cant see anything... just a black screen, so i plugged in hdmi and it worked, but i cant see the menu all i have is a desktop the resolution is obviously to high and i cant change it, im in recovery mode with networking on irssi atm.. is there a way i can remove the nvidia driver?
[04:50] <AnubArack> ankers, you don't need to remove the drivers, you need to set your resolutions right
[04:51] <StepNjump> MeanEYE: http://paste.ubuntu.com/578670/
[04:52] <ankers> can i do that by shell in recovery mode? i cant see the menu or anything in gnome so i cant get a shell up or the display pannel
[04:52] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: damn :/
[04:52] <LittleRed> ankers... I had to do that...google command line driver purge
[04:52] <teage> where is the (inode/directory) located at?
[04:52] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: can you see your device with lsusb command?
[04:53] <teage> im trying to determine where the heck the mount is for my ipod
[04:53] <teage> its mounting but i cant find its mounting point
[04:54] <gartral> teage: as a drive device?
[04:54] <StepNjump> What do you mean damn MeanEYE?
[04:54] <teage> gartral- not sure
[04:54] <teage> i checked the mnt directory and media directory and there is nothing there
[04:54] <gartral> teage: sudo fdisk -l
[04:55] <ankers> im not in any xwindow, just at the boot menu logged in and in irssi can i change gnomes resolution by command
[04:55] <StepNjump> Yep, it's listed MeanEYE: Bus 001 Device 003: ID 050d:815c Belkin Components F5D8053 N Wireless USB Adapter v3000 [Ralink RT2870]
[04:56] <teage> gartral- the command you gave shows linux  and linux swap but there is one that says extended too
[04:56] <teage> sda2
[04:56] <gartral> teage: weird.. im not sure what too tell you
[04:57] <teage> shouldnt there be a mounting point to all devises? gartral
[04:57] <gartral> teage: yes, that's /media/
[04:58] <StepNjump> MeanEYE, how do you install the  usb-modeswitch package? Is it supposed to install from the main ubuntu repository simply with agt-get install?
[04:58] <StepNjump> oh, it's already installed! ok MeanEYE
[04:58] <suprbly> how goes it ubuntu fans
[04:58] <teage> gartral- thats what i thought but its just not there, guess it means more google hours on my part. lol. thanks for all the help though
[04:59] <gartral> teage: which ipod, just wondering
[04:59] <teage> gartral- ipod touch 2nd generation
[04:59] <dribble> how can I tell if my system is being monitored
[04:59] <StepNjump> Sorry MeanEYE. If you wrote something, I didn't read it because I disconnected
[04:59] <ankers> can someone please tell me the command line to remove the nvidia driver :( :(
[05:00] <soreau> ankers: Depends on how you installed it
[05:00] <StepNjump> MeanEYE: It's weird that it worked on the trial mode!
[05:00] <LittleRed> dribble... I wrote a custom port scanner
[05:00] <jiltdil> if i connected through ssh with a computer in lan then how to copy  data from that computer?
[05:01] <dribble> littlered what does that do
[05:01] <ankers> i didnt get it from the site, i did it from the ubuntu driver update
[05:01] <soreau> ankers: jiltdil You don't need ssh. Use scp
[05:01] <teage> gartral- like i said, it mounts just fine and i can sync in rythmbox too, but to add photos i have to use gtkpod and i need to manually mount for that. since it auto mounts when i plug it in i was thinking i could direct gtkpod to the location of the mount.
[05:01] <LittleRed> it checks to see if someone has 'touched 'the ports... then I close them off
[05:02] <soreau> ankers: sys>admin>additional drivers>remove
[05:02] <dribble> yeah i get parnoid and just disconnect my wireless card
[05:02] <teage> gartral-wishful thinking i guess. thanks anyway
[05:02] <ankers> no no i need a command line, i cant get into X because the driver messed up my screen lol
[05:02] <DanaG> Say, how the heck are the ARROW KEYS considered "typing"?
[05:02] <dribble> ankers i've had the same problem but you should be able to boot in safe graphics mode
[05:03] <DanaG> Whenever I press an arrow key, Gnome freezes my touchpad.
[05:03] <soreau> dribble: You can't really tell if there's someone watching, only if they make requests to your router and/or system
[05:03] <AnubArack> when i did a sudo update-grub i got this : Generating grub.cfg ... cat: /boot/grub/video.lst: No such file or directory  is this bad ?
[05:03] <DanaG> Good luck typing a document with just arrow keys.
[05:03] <jiltdil> soreau:diff between ssh and scp and plz give command related to scp
[05:03] <dribble> is there a log of attempts or anything
[05:03] <soreau> ankers: rm -rf /etc/X11/xorg.conf && reboot
[05:03] <ankers> would it be sudo apt-get remove nvida-glx
[05:03] <ankers> okay :D
[05:04] <DanaG> why rf a single file?
[05:04] <soreau> jiltdil: scp user@192.168.1.101:/home/user/file /some/local/destination/path/
[05:04] <LittleRed>  ankers -- http://www.experts-exchange.com/OS/Linux/Q_25451769.html
[05:05] <jiltdil> soreau:thanx
[05:05] <suprbly> dribble: i here ya man i was haveing problems with people sniffing my router also
[05:05] <ankers> yeah, see i cant look at that... seeing as im only on a shell.. i'll go try some crap see if it works lol
[05:06] <LittleRed> ankers --- give me a sec and I'll pull out the commands for you
[05:06] <jiltdil> soreau: one more prob i want to acess my friend computer that is in WAN how to do this?
[05:06] <soreau> ankapt-get remove nvidia-current
[05:06] <soreau> ugh
[05:06] <soreau> jiltdil: What?
[05:06] <dribble> yeah thats why i've taken up bash trying to write scripts that can pull up the information I need and issue commands to block them you know
[05:06] <jiltdil> soreau: how to acess computer using ssh in WAN?
[05:06] <epicenter> Howdy :) I was curious if someone could help me with something. I am trying to install Win7 but have no drives to do it (USB is out of the question). I have an ISO on my hard disk; how do I configure Grub to add the ISO to the boot selection list? Thank you! :)
[05:07] <LittleRed> ankers -- sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx
[05:07] <soreau> jiltdil: Same way as any other connection..
[05:07] <epicenter> I'm partitioning the disk to dualboot ubuntu 10.10 and win7
[05:07] <soreau> LittleRed: He's gone
[05:07] <jiltdil> soreau:so what should be the  user name?
[05:07] <soreau> jiltdil: Depends on what the user is on the server side
[05:08] <soreau> jiltdil: The system you're trying to ssh into should have openssh-server installed
[05:08] <LittleRed> soreau -- oh well
[05:08] <jiltdil> soreau:thanx for ur guidence
[05:08] <AnubArack> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9087135 <--- is this safe? I get the exact same error
[05:08] <jiltdil> soreau:how to install openssh
[05:09] <jiltdil> soreau: and how to check it if it is installed in my sys or not?
[05:09] <AnubArack> jiltdil, sudo apt-get install openssh ?
[05:10] <epicenter> Does grub not use /boot/grub/menu.lst anymore? The file is not present for me
[05:10] <amh345> i want to add some environment variables in my /etc/profile.  i just opened it up and it is a touch confusing.     can i just add my new definitions to the very bottom of the profile file or should it be structured in a specific way?
[05:10] <soreau> jiltdil: On the system you're sshing from, install ssh. On the system you're sshing into, apt-get install openssh-server and make sure you can ping it's ip
[05:11] <StepNjump> MeanEYE: I don't know what's happened but believe it or not but it seems to be working now
[05:11] <MeanEYE> :)
[05:12] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: sorry for late reply, had breakfast
[05:12] <StepNjump> Very strange
[05:12] <MeanEYE> gladd it's working
[05:12] <StepNjump> Maybe it woke it up!
[05:12] <jiltdil> soreau:thanx a lot
[05:12] <StepNjump> np!
[05:12] <StepNjump> Can't believe it!
[05:12] <StepNjump> Thank you!
[05:12] <nit-wit> epicenter, which distro do you have
[05:12] <epicenter> nit-wit: Ubuntu 10.10
[05:13] <nit-wit> epicenter, it is using grub2
[05:13] <epicenter> It looks like /boot/grub/grub.cfg is what I want to work with
[05:13] <epicenter> er not sure
[05:13] <epicenter> nit-wit: I see where memtest86's image loads and I figure I want to imitate the format of that except specify my win7 iso
[05:13] <StepNjump> MeanEYE: I'm still not fully convinced.. How can I tell for sure it's THIS device working right now rather than the on-board Wifi card working?
[05:13] <StepNjump> Is there a command i could do in Bash to know?
[05:14] <nit-wit> epicenter, not sure I understand you
[05:14] <epicenter> nit-wit: I am trying to reconfigure grub to add a boot option to load an iso image off my hard disk. in this case, a windows 7 install disc
[05:14] <epicenter> (my machine has no dvd reader)
[05:14] <epicenter> (and usb booting is broken)
[05:15] <StepNjump> Can anyone tell me how I could list all my wifi devices and tell which ones are in operation right now in bash?
[05:15] <nit-wit> epicenter, do you have thumb it can be det up in Ubuntu to boot the W7 install
[05:15] <nit-wit> *set
[05:15] <epicenter> nit-wit: What is Thumb
[05:15] <epicenter> nit-wit: if you mean a Thumb drive, usb, then yes
[05:16] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: ifconfig -a should list all network devices
[05:16] <MeanEYE> and their IP addresses
[05:16] <nit-wit> epicenter, hyou can't use the thumb though correct
[05:17] <epicenter> nit-wit: Correct; the BIOS cannot boot a USB device. It has some weird fault.
[05:17] <nit-wit> epicenter, I'm not familiar with looping gthe ISO
[05:17] <epicenter> nit-wit: Once, I used Grub to boot a W7 ISO. I just do not remember how
[05:19] <EvilPhoenix> anyone know how you go about getting a new package added to the repositories?
[05:21] <StepNjump> MeanEYE, please have a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/578680/ --- looks like both wlan0 and wlan1 are both working simultaneously! Is that possible? What I am trying to do here is disable the onboard wifi so I don't get irradiated right on my lap. The USB dongle is on an extension wire, thus further away from me. That's the one I would like to work. How can I disable the other onboard one? And which one do you figure is which?
[05:22] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: it is possible... do ping -I eth1 www.google.com
[05:22] <MeanEYE> or whichever your wlan is
[05:22] <StepNjump> ok le me try
[05:23] <StepNjump> MeanEYE: You don't mean ping -I wlan0 (or 1) www.google.com?
[05:23] <StepNjump> My eth1 is off
[05:23] <MeanEYE> as long as it's there
[05:23] <MeanEYE> that means system recognizes it
[05:23] <Chikokishi> Trying to install Vuze, i tried what the readme said (extract the downloaded files and run...) but it didnt work, so now i did sudo apt-get install azureus...  That should be the same program right?
[05:23] <StepNjump> unknown iface eth1
[05:24] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: wlan1 or 2 :D
[05:24] <orangey> hello all
[05:24] <MeanEYE> sorry :)
[05:24] <MeanEYE> hi orangey
[05:24] <StepNjump> Meaneye: what do you mean wlan or 2?
[05:24] <orangey> my flash plugin literally fails every second youtube video.
[05:24] <orangey> wtf?
[05:24] <orangey> It appears up todate
[05:24] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: ping -I wlan1 www.google.com
[05:25] <jarredverne> hi, I have a problem, is there a help channel?
[05:25] <MeanEYE> but seems to me both cards are working and connected
[05:25] <MeanEYE> jarredverne: this is it
[05:25] <orangey> I've tried completely removing it, then looking for any other signs of libflash - there are none. Still, crash every second video.
[05:25] <orangey> any way to debug that at all?
[05:25] <StepNjump> meaneye: yes that's what I figured
[05:26] <StepNjump> meaneye: cuz in network tools, I see traffic on both wlan0 and wlan1
[05:26] <StepNjump> It's almost like they are fighting to decide who will be 1st and who will be 2nd
[05:27] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: that's ok, linux will use both :D at the same time :)
[05:27] <jarredverne> thanks, I have manually installed new version of nant (by downloading and using make install), removing the old one by apt-get remove, but it could not find mono, mono command works without problems, but nant does not work even if I re-install using apt-get
[05:27] <StepNjump> MeanEYE, yeah but after a while, they will disconnect both
[05:27] <MeanEYE> they will?
[05:27] <ss_> :D
[05:27] <StepNjump> and then i need to unplug the USB wifi MeanEYE and refresh it again. This is not good. I need only one to work
[05:27] <StepNjump> How can I disable one of the two?
[05:27] <jarredverne> I keep getting this message when I use $nant ---> exec: 2: /usr/local/bin/mono: not found
[05:28] <soreau> what is with persistent live usb giving so many issues with simple apt-get update/upgrade?
[05:28] <jarredverne> thanks a lot for any help
[05:28] <StepNjump> Of course, I could always physically disconnect the onboard wifi Meaneye but! It's kind of rough and ready a method
[05:28] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: either with ifconfig wlan1 down or left clicking on network indicator
[05:28] <nit-wit> soreau, have you looked in synaptic for briken oackages.
[05:29] <nit-wit> *broken packages
[05:29] <soreau> nit-wit: No, I only installed 10.10 via ubuntu's startup disk creator then booted it and trying to just get through apt-get update/upgrade-dist-upgrade
[05:30] <soreau> nit-wit: I don't care if I have to shut down kernel upgrades or something, just get upgrade to work
[05:30] <MeanEYE> jarredverne: sorry I don't have any experience with Mono... :/
[05:30] <MeanEYE> maybe someone else can help
[05:30] <soreau> installing packages is a reall pain when apt isn't willing
[05:30] <nit-wit> soreau, since you have activated the upgrade have you opened software sorces and ticked the universe or other repos
[05:30] <soreau> nit-wit: Yes, everything is enabled except cdrom
[05:30] <jarredverne> thanks but I think this is a problem related with path variables, but I'm not much experienced to be honest :)
[05:30] <StepNjump> How can I get to the network indicator
[05:30] <nit-wit> soreau, look in synaptic for broken packages as well
[05:31] <soreau> nit-wit: Alright, I'll do that after this latest apt command fails :P
[05:31] <Ziber> Alright, so, on ubuntu 10.10, I set terminal to open by running /bin/bash ~/.profile. Terminal now opens and closes imeediately. How can I fix this?
[05:31] <MeanEYE> jarredverne: maybe check the output of env ?!... not sure how to help
[05:32] <soreau> nit-wit: I don't know how to use this synaptic mess.. how to view if you have borken packages?
[05:32] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: it should be on your top panel
[05:32] <jarredverne> alright, thanks anyway
[05:33] <StepNjump> You mean where I click in order to choose 'enable networking' and 'enable wireless'?
[05:34] <epicenter> Does anyone know how to force Grub to display a prompt at boot? Right now it goes right to ubuntu without asking. Thanks!
[05:34] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: yep, click with left button there and just disconnect from other wireless card
[05:34] <StepNjump> I tried there but there doesn't seem to be a way to just deactivate any device
[05:34] <Ziber> Alright, so, on ubuntu 10.10, I set terminal to open by running /bin/bash ~/.profile. Terminal now opens and closes imeediately. How can I fix this?
[05:34] <StepNjump> mmm I tried but
[05:34] <gartral> where can i find a ppp_generic module?
[05:34] <StepNjump> let me see what i tried...
[05:34] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: not device, just disconnect from network of second device
[05:35] <StepNjump> mmm network... Where should I click?
[05:35] <suprbly> epicenter: you will have to manually edit your grub i think
[05:35] <StepNjump> there's edit connections MeanEYE
[05:35] <soreau> nit-wit: ?
[05:35] <trism> Ziber: /bin/bash ~/.profile; would attempt to execute ~/.profile and then exit, which is probably not what you want. if you wanted to source a file before running an interactive terminal, you can use the --init-file switch
[05:35] <epicenter> sprbly: that's fine, I just added a new entry but have no way to choose it at boot
[05:36] <nit-wit> soreau, custom filters
[05:36] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: are you sure both connection will disconnect in time?
[05:36] <Ziber> trism: How to fix it now tho?
[05:36] <epicenter> sprbly: I see where to set a default entry but not where to make the menu appear
[05:36] <trism> Ziber: using gnome-terminal?
[05:36] <akkad> wtf does one find stddef.h?
[05:36] <Ziber> trism: yes.
[05:36] <trism> Ziber: alt+f2, gnome-terminal -x /bin/bash; fix your profile in the options
[05:37] <tripelb> MeanEYE: you still here. my phone is. :)
[05:37] <Ziber> trism: ah, ty :)
[05:37] <MeanEYE> tripelb: your phone is what/
[05:37] <rickmasta> Hey guys, can anyone recommend a good cheap laptop than can run ubuntu smoothly?
[05:37] <Ziber> trism: /bin/bash --init-file <file>?
[05:38] <MeanEYE> rickmasta: anything from hp :) runs rather well
[05:38] <trism> Ziber: yes
[05:38] <MeanEYE> rickmasta: HP has the best Linux support out there... many other laptops work good as well, also make sure to check hardware database on ubuntu.com
[05:38] <tripelb> meaneye, still here and still not connecting.
[05:38] <suprbly> epicenter: http://www.easy-ubuntu-linux.com/grub-menu-visible.html  try this
[05:39] <MeanEYE> rickmasta: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[05:39] <rickmasta> MeanEYE: Thank you!
[05:39] <MeanEYE> tripelb: you had the same problem yesterday... are you just trying to get those files or you want to make phone work
[05:39] <MeanEYE> rickmasta: np :D
[05:40] <soreau> nit-wit: That didn't do anything. I selected broken packages and it went straight back to the window when I first opened it
[05:40] <tripelb> meaneye. right, you remember me.  (grins) I want one picture off this phone. And I want to solve the problem of how to connect it.
[05:40] <Ziber> trism: not showing a prompt...
[05:41] <soreau> nit-wit: You'll have to be more specific with your explainings about broken packages because I really think I do not have any broken packages
[05:41] <tripelb> meaneye, it's invisible, got no secrets to conceal.
[05:41] <MeanEYE> tripelb: I tried finding that phone online, but failed to do so... am not sure what the problem is
[05:41] <nit-wit> soreau, how big is the thumb
[05:41] <soreau> nit-wit: It's just the usb persistent live session thinks there's no / so it get confused. It's 8GB
[05:41] <soreau> nit-wit: plenty
[05:41] <tripelb> meaneye didnt the links I gave you work?
[05:42] <nit-wit> soreau, you should do a full install.
[05:42] <tripelb> to find the phone
[05:42] <MeanEYE> you gave me links?! didn't saw them
[05:42] <soreau> nit-wit: I *did* do I full install afaik.. but you mean like from cd to usb huh
[05:42] <soreau> nit-wit: Actually I used usb startup creator
[05:42] <tripelb> MeanEYE: asked for docs---  slart http://tracfone.deviceanywhere.com/straighttalk/home.seam?custId=STLG900G&locale=en_US
[05:42] <tripelb> slart, says it's easy, plug and play http://saveonprepaidphones.com/lg900g_file_transfer_data_cable\
[05:42] <soreau> nit-wit: And before this, I tried unetbootin
[05:42] <StepNjump> MeanEYE, looks good now
[05:43] <StepNjump> Let me confirm that
[05:43] <soreau> nit-wit: Ok so I can just install to it like a regular hdd and but.. ok
[05:43] <soreau> frickin aye, what a pita
[05:43] <nit-wit> soreau, exactly but make sure the grub bootloader gores to the thumbs mbr
[05:43] <bird> hello
[05:44] <StepNjump> MeanEYE: Eureka! The bytecount for wlan0 is still whilst the wlan1 increments nicely
[05:44] <StepNjump> MeanEYE: Thank you a million!
[05:44] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: no problem :D
[05:44] <soreau> nit-wit: fine but what fs to choose? Can I use fat32 for /? oO
[05:44] <nit-wit> soreau, the install you did is quite limiting if your not a exsperienced user to some extent, if your trying to update/upgrade that is
[05:44] <soreau> -_-
[05:44] <soreau> nit-wit: What about experience?
[05:44] <bird> I can't understand
[05:44] <htat> ickserv identify qzuht
[05:44] <StepNjump> If you knew how long I've been looking for this to work!
[05:44] <soreau> nit-wit: What about experience.
[05:44] <nit-wit> soreau, format the thumb to a ext4 with gparted from the live cd
[05:45] <StepNjump> Great job. Thanks
[05:45] <soreau> nit-wit: And windows can mount it
[05:45] <htat> Well crap.
[05:45] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: lol, np... I was just poking around in the dark :D
[05:45] <soreau> nit-wit: I kinda need windows to use the fs too
[05:45] <aroman> how can I remove the "Help and Support" menu entry from gnome-panel? (Via the command line0
[05:45] <MeanEYE> tripelb: :/ did you try downloading updated drivers from the LG site
[05:45] <MeanEYE> windows drivers that is
[05:45] <MeanEYE> if windows with latest drivers doesn't work
[05:45] <MeanEYE> i might be the phone got something wrong
[05:46] <recognosco> htat: we didn't see. we promise.
[05:46] <soreau> nit-wit: What should I do?
[05:46] <nit-wit> soreau, windows wont see the thumb with a full install. You can put a fat at the beginning of the drive and the ext4 after and windows will see the fat if its first on the thumb
[05:47] <tripelb> meaneye here is what happens when I connect it... http://paste.ubuntu.com/578686/
[05:47] <bird> Who can help me use X-chat
[05:47] <StepNjump> MeanEYE: I found something else cool too: sudo ifconfig wlan0 down
[05:47] <recognosco> 11 minutes to download 3GB. not bad.
[05:47] <nit-wit> soreau, what is it you actually want?
[05:47] <aroman> bird: I can try :)
[05:47] <tripelb> meaneye, re lg site no. didnt see that. will check the page.
[05:48] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: :D I said that in one of my replies
[05:48] <Gent> has anyone here successfully been able to upload a screencast taken in gtk-recordmydesktop to vimeo?
[05:48] <StepNjump> That's awsome, when doing a ifconfig, wlan0 doesn't even show up! Seems to be working
[05:48] <StepNjump> Ooopsss.. Did you?
[05:48] <StepNjump> LOL
[05:48] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: :D yeah I did...
[05:48] <soreau> nit-wit: I guess I'll have to figure that out in the end :P
[05:48] <StepNjump> At times, I miss replies whilst in my bash shell.. Should make my windows transparent
[05:49] <nit-wit> soreau, good luck
[05:49] <nit-wit> ;)
[05:49] <soreau> nit-wit: Thanks for your help, I wont waste my time with ubuntu startup creator, what a waste of time and a sorry excuse for 'persistent' booting
[05:49] <StepNjump> MeanEYE: Now I really look like a real idiot... lol Ah! I'm happy anyway. Sorry I didn't read that. Like they say GMTA
[05:49] <soreau> idk why I even use this distro sometimes
[05:49] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: it's ok :D everything turned out just nicely
[05:50] <nit-wit> soreau, it works quite well but you have to be a geek somewhat to really get it really useful, somewhat like wubi lol.
[05:50] <StepNjump> Better than I thought inDEED. It's awsome! Thanks again bro...
[05:50] <MeanEYE> np
[05:50] <MeanEYE> :)
[05:51] <soreau> nit-wit: idk what you just said but I'll get it to work, ggek or not
[05:51] <soreau> geek or not
[05:51] <soreau> fuck this keyboard
[05:52] <maco> soreau: language, please
[05:52] <soreau> I just want the usb install to go faster
[05:52] <soreau> maco: right, I'm not in the best spirits tonight
[05:53] <aroman> how can I remove the "Help and Support" menu entry from gnome-panel?
[05:53]  * soreau tries not to say rm -rf /*
[05:53] <soreau> aroman: Right click and select remove?
[05:53] <maco> soreau: how many buttons you wanna push?
[05:54] <aroman> soreau: any idea how to do it from CLI?
[05:55] <soreau> maco: I have 105 :P
[05:55] <soreau> aroman: chmod -x $(which gnome-panel)
[05:55] <aroman> soreau: ...
[05:55] <MeanEYE> aroman: don't execute that
[05:55] <aroman> MeanEYE: yeah no worries
[05:55] <MeanEYE> soreau: don't talk stupid stuff
[05:56] <MeanEYE> if you are not going to help then don't talk at all
[05:56] <soreau> Well i need some help
[05:56] <aroman> i'm using this for a remaster of ubuntu, I know exactly what I'm doing ^^
[05:56] <soreau> aroman: If you knew exactly what you were doing, you wouldn't be here asking questions
[05:56] <kothaguy_ubuntu> hi,i am unable to record video using cheese webcam,can anyone help me how to record video using cheese webcam,my netbook has built in webcam
[05:57] <MeanEYE> aroman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1259898
[05:57] <MeanEYE> answer to your question
[05:57] <aroman> MeanEYE: excellent! Thanks
[05:57] <MeanEYE> aroman: np
[05:57] <ejv> whats a remaster of ubuntu
[05:57] <ejv> never heard that terminology...
[05:57] <MeanEYE> kothaguy_ubuntu: are you sure your cam works?
[05:57] <bazhang> !remaster > ejv
[05:57] <aroman> i should've figured they were .desktops. Wasn't sure of how gnome-panel worked though
[05:58] <kothaguy_ubuntu> MeanEYE, yes ,i am able to take photos,but unable to record videos,when i click start recording,black screen will come
[05:58] <soreau> ejv: You can extract the image, edit it for your purposes, and then remaster it
[05:58] <ejv> cool
[05:58] <ejv> not sure why i'd ever wanna do that
[05:58] <ejv> but cool...
[05:59] <aroman> ejv: you probably never would :)
[05:59] <ejv> you guys have too much free time clearly
[05:59] <ejv> ;)
[05:59] <aroman> heh
[05:59] <HF_acid> ejv: well you yourself prolly not but if your managing a computer lab or some such thing it's easier not to have to edit every computer after install
[05:59] <soreau> ejv: in case you want to boot a live cd and have it configure the way you want or have programs installed so you don't have to install them every time
[05:59] <MeanEYE> kothaguy_ubuntu: so recorded video is just black or only preview is black?
[05:59] <soreau> Very useful in cases of mass boots/ installs
[06:00] <ejv> ah
[06:00] <ejv> gotcha
[06:00] <epicenter> Hello; is there an app that can resize my ext4 partitions to make room for new ntfs ones, after install? Thank you :)
[06:00] <aroman> well in this case its just for an ubuntu-based linux distro
[06:00] <epicenter> I have 70GB of free space at the end of the disk
[06:00] <bazhang> epicenter, gparted live cd
[06:00] <soreau> epicenter: Not sure why you'd want ntfs, but gparted
[06:00] <epicenter> can it be run from within the OS
[06:01] <kothaguy_ubuntu> MeanEYE, :both,when i click on start recording,1-2 minutes it will be black screen,after that,it will struck
[06:01] <epicenter> I cannot boot a liveCD; no cdrom drive
[06:01] <MeanEYE> kothaguy_ubuntu: did you try with different program?
[06:01] <bazhang> epicenter, then put it on usb stick via unetbootin
[06:01] <kothaguy_ubuntu> MeanEYE, :Different programme means?
[06:01] <epicenter> bazhang: I'll try, but my motherboard has a fault that makes it only boot usb every 1 out of 100 times
[06:01] <tripelb> meaneye, well I found a lot more pages. Almost all in europe, none of which mention this model. Except of course the page that says it is "plug and pray", lol.  I'll "hang it up" for tonight. I'm intending to phone tech support tomorrow. - Thanks for putting your mind to this. I am sooo much smarter about this tonight than I was yesterday when I was sick. Peace out.
[06:01] <soreau> nit-wit: wtf: the live installer doesn't even show any usb sticks to use
[06:02]  * soreau is not very impressed
[06:02] <MeanEYE> tripelb: :)
[06:02] <MeanEYE> kothaguy_ubuntu: which program did you use to record video?
[06:02] <soreau> nit-wit: how am I supposed to install ubuntu to 8GB usb drive when it doesn't show up in the partitioner?
[06:03] <epicenter> soreau: It might be a bios setting making it not show up?
[06:03] <epicenter> Try other USB settings like usb 1.x
[06:03] <soreau> epicenter: I doubt it, since I can boot from the same usb stick just fine
[06:03] <soniku> Anybody know anything about the real-time kernel used with Studio?
[06:03] <kothaguy_ubuntu> cheese webcam for recording
[06:04] <soreau> epicenter: nit-wit said i should be able to install from live cd to usb but it's not showing any usb in gparted
[06:04] <soreau> ! anybody | soniku
[06:04] <epicenter> soreau: Sorry, not sure why that would occur. You might try another usb device if at all possible. or another USB port
[06:04] <epicenter> sometimes cases have an external usb port that is wired up wrong or not at all
[06:04] <MeanEYE> kothaguy_ubuntu: try installing different program for recording
[06:04] <soreau> epicenter: Is it your stance that it should show the usb as installation media from gparted?
[06:04] <epicenter> but if you can boot from it it just sounds like a bug in the ubuntu installer.
[06:05] <kothaguy_ubuntu> MeanEYE, :can you tell some apps
[06:05] <epicenter> soreau: I would think it should
[06:05] <soreau> yea, ubiquity is a P.O.S.
[06:05] <epicenter> there are probably bugs in gparted
[06:05] <soreau> I've had nothing but problems with it as of the paste year or so
[06:05] <epicenter> no app's perfect
[06:05] <soreau> past*
[06:06] <soreau> And this god damned keyboard
[06:06] <soreau> ugh
[06:06] <epicenter> mmm paste
[06:06] <soniku> I've finally got Ubuntu installed and now am trying to get the real-time kernel that I keep reading about for Studio, but I don't seem to be able to get it - is there a way to upgrade to that kernel without a Studio disc?
[06:07] <soreau> soniku: You can install an rt kernel but the patches for it usually only support slightly earlier kernels
[06:07] <soreau> GAH
[06:07] <soreau> Why isn't ubuntu showing usb as an installation media option
[06:08]  * soreau stabs ubiquity with an extremely pointy object
[06:08] <soreau> I would even go as far as to say shrrp
[06:08] <soreau> sharp
[06:08]  * soreau bashes keyboard against wall
[06:08] <nit-wit> he he
[06:09] <soreau> pospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospospos
[06:09] <cgcardona> where do I find my apache config file on ubuntu?
[06:09] <recognosco> cgcardona: apache2?
[06:09] <recognosco> cgcardona: /etc/apache2/
[06:09] <epicenter> cgcardona: I think /etc/apache/httpd.conf or something
[06:09] <epicenter> or it used to be
[06:09] <kothaguy_ubuntu> MeanEYE, :which recording sofware should i use?
[06:10] <MeanEYE> kothaguy_ubuntu: am not sure, never done that before... try searching in software centre or someone could suggest one
[06:10] <cgcardona> epicenter: i do have that file at that path but it is empty
[06:10] <epicenter> cgcardona: I guess it's deprecated
[06:10] <epicenter> check the man file for apache
[06:10] <cgcardona> I'm looking for AllowOverride All
[06:10] <epicenter> that's generally a good place to start
[06:10] <epicenter> though man files are often woefully inadequate imho
[06:11] <recognosco> cgcardona: /etc/apache2/httpd.conf is my file.
[06:11] <epicenter> my god how the hell long does it take dd to copy an iso to a flash drive
[06:11] <epicenter> a progress bar would be LOVELY
[06:11] <recognosco> cgcardona: i have the default setup
[06:12] <cgcardona> ok thanks for the help
[06:12] <epicenter> it's like linux apps are designed to be as cryptic as humanly possible
[06:12] <recognosco> cgcardona: oops my bad. /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[06:13] <cgcardona> thanks again
[06:13] <epicenter> welcome sorry i wasn't of more assistance
[06:13] <hiexpo> hello all
[06:13] <harisund> Is there a chvt command equivalent for virtual terminals?
[06:14] <hiexpo> has anything came out yet  for unity 3d web player
[06:14] <San> San
[06:14] <San> hey
[06:15] <San> everybody
[06:18] <eckirchn> hello all
[06:18] <Logan_> hiexpo: they're still working on it: http://feedback.unity3d.com/forums/15792-unity/suggestions/164961-platforms-linux-player-web-player-support
[06:19] <BaKeR> finnaly figgured out how to make compiz run somoother
[06:19] <MeanEYE> do share with us
[06:20] <BaKeR> no more glitchy edges
[06:20] <MeanEYE> edges?
[06:20] <eckirchn> BaKeR: issue with compiz?
[06:21] <BaKeR> yeah i was having ishue where when you move the window with wave effect it
[06:21] <BaKeR> tends to tear
[06:21] <BaKeR> MeanEYe: do you get that ishue
[06:21] <BaKeR> ?
[06:21] <MeanEYE> nope
[06:21] <MeanEYE> plus I don't like that plugin
[06:22] <BaKeR> well alteast i didnt neet a new video cared
[06:22] <BaKeR> card
[06:22] <BaKeR> typp
[06:22] <BaKeR> o
[06:22] <FloodBot1> BaKeR: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:22] <harisund> Anyone knows how to switch between virtual terminals pts/0 pts/1 etc?
[06:22] <MeanEYE> harisund: alt+f1, f2 etc
[06:22] <jiltdil> is there any microsoft office like here to make ppy?
[06:23] <jiltdil> sorry ppt
[06:23] <eckirchn> jiltdil: openoffice
[06:23] <harisund> MeanEYE: not really
[06:23] <MeanEYE> harisund: are you talkig about gnome terminal or ptys?
[06:23] <jiltdil> eckirchm: open office presentation or word proceesor
[06:24] <eckirchn> jiltdil: presenter
[06:24] <jiltdil> ok thanx
[06:24] <eckirchn> jiltdil: install the whole suite
[06:24] <harisund> pts, the ones that are created when you SSH into a server remotely for instance
[06:24] <jiltdil> ok
[06:24] <MeanEYE> harisund: you can't switch as far as I know... you can however make screen sessions and switch them
[06:25] <grg_> hi
[06:25] <harisund> Yeah that's what I am beginning to think too
[06:26] <eckirchn> harisund: from gnome
[06:26] <eckirchn> harisund ?
[06:26] <Chaorain> Hey, I wanted to try out the Netbook edition (10.10) I have a full sized laptop and get an error after selecting "Try Ubuntu" "No required driver detected for Unity."
[06:27] <eckirchn> Chaorain: whyy would you not use the full livecd?
[06:27] <harisund> eckirchn: No gnome, no GUI... all through SSH
[06:27] <MeanEYE> Chaorain: unity requires video drivers... 3d acceleration
[06:27] <Wolfwalker_Prime> I have a new laptop with Windows 7.  I recall something back in the early Vista days about Vista started on a nonstandard cylinder setting, and when you dual booted Ubuntu it messed up your Vista install.
[06:28] <eckirchn> harisund: are you using ctrl-X or something?
[06:28] <Wolfwalker_Prime> Is this the case with Windows 7, or did someone fix something in Ubuntu or GRUB to compensate?
[06:28] <Chaorain> MeanEYE: So I need to install the popriatary drivers?
[06:28] <eckirchn> harisund: in runlevel 3 ctrl Fx whould be the only way to change it
[06:28] <MeanEYE> Chaorain: you are running livecd right?
[06:29] <eckirchn> Chaorain: drivers for what?
[06:29] <Chaorain> MeanEYE: USB, I used the windows method described here. http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook/get-ubuntu/download
[06:30] <Chaorain> kvirdi_: I want to try Netbook Remix
[06:30] <eckirchn> Chaorain: why, a net book is a computer, why use a stripped version, just uninstall the apps you don't want
[06:31] <Chipzzz> MeanEYE: you mean to upgrade to 11.04 I'm going to have to run proprietary drivers for my ATI card?!?!
[06:31] <eckirchn> It's a very different world here then #fedora.. interesting...
[06:31] <Chaorain> I wanted to see Unity allright? Possibly use this as a way to repair other computers
[06:31] <Chaorain> eckirchn: how so?
[06:32] <eckirchn> Chaorain: very different questions...
[06:32] <MeanEYE> Chaorain: as of version 11.04 there will be no Netbook edition of ubuntu. My suggestion would be to try 11.04 version. It's still alpha, but there is one 40ish days to release.
[06:32] <eckirchn> Chaorain: just got on here to see what the ubuntu world was like... :)
[06:32] <MeanEYE> Chaorain: also, that Unity in 10.10 is not good, it's slow and uses different compoziting than new unity.
[06:32] <Wolfwalker_Prime> Chaorain, the best way to repair other computers with Ubuntu is to install it to a USB flash drive, install ClamAV and boot from it on the target computer.
[06:33] <eckirchn> Wolfwalker_Prime: like using chroot?
[06:33] <Wolfwalker_Prime> I don't know how Unity could help with computer repair though...
[06:33] <Chaorain> MeanEYE: I actually have 10.10 Desktop installed,
[06:33] <]i[koN> is there any good anti virus for ubuntu
[06:34] <soreau> ! virus | ]i[koN
[06:34] <MeanEYE> ]i[koN: you don't really need one ;D
[06:34] <]i[koN> thats not true
[06:34] <MeanEYE> then install ClamAV
[06:34] <]i[koN> its not updated
[06:34] <MeanEYE> check for ppa?
[06:34] <Wolfwalker_Prime> Antivirus is good on a portable Ubuntu, installed on a bootable flash drive.  You can boot into a bad Windows and clean house.  :D
[06:35] <]i[koN> i am new at this os
[06:35] <binary01> hey everyone. im having trouble configuring my xerox printer in ubuntu maverick. when I try to print anything i get pages of garbage. can anyone help me out?
[06:35] <Chaorain> MeanEYE: why are they stoppung a netbook release
[06:35] <MeanEYE> ]i[koN: then how do you know anti-virus is needed?
[06:35] <soreau> ]i[koN: You need to read the link ubottu gave
[06:35] <]i[koN> just to be safe
[06:35] <MeanEYE> Chaorain: Unity will be default in desktop
[06:35] <soreau> ]i[koN: read first. You're already safe
[06:36] <]i[koN> also is there any drivers for amd
[06:36] <MeanEYE> amd what?
[06:36] <]i[koN> 6850
[06:36] <MeanEYE> you mean ATI graphics card?
[06:36] <Chaorain> MeanEYE: 0.o thats interesting
[06:36] <]i[koN> yeah
[06:36] <soreau> ]i[koN: You can use the open radeon driver or fglrx
[06:37] <MeanEYE> ]i[koN: ubuntu comes with opensource version of ATI drivers, but you can install additional ones
[06:37] <]i[koN> i did but i cant config my settings
[06:37] <MeanEYE> Chaorain: yeah, :D it might turn out good
[06:37] <soreau> ]i[koN: Why not?
[06:37] <soreau> ! who | ]i[koN
[06:37] <Chaorain> MeanEYE: so I could install 11.04 pre-release to a flash drive and try it that way?
[06:37] <]i[koN> its saying drivers need to be install or no gpu is installed
[06:38] <soreau> ]i[koN: What is saying that?
[06:38] <]i[koN> i dont know
[06:38] <soreau> ???
[06:38] <soreau> -_-
[06:38] <soreau> ]i[koN: You must be doing something for it to give this message
[06:38] <]i[koN> what is it doing
[06:38] <Chaorain> Wolfwalker_Prime: can ClamAV clean viruses off a Windows partition?
[06:39] <MeanEYE> Chaorain: yes, that would be my suggestion. Please bare in mind it's still alpha quality. But like I said some 48 days to full release so you can play with it.
[06:39] <Wolfwalker_Prime> Chaorain, yup.
[06:39] <Chaorain> Wolfwalker_Prime: AWSOME!!!
[06:40] <MeanEYE> Chaorain: yes, that's the correct word to define Linux :D
[06:40] <ksinkar> ubuntu does not have this file .bash_profile in my home directory. What is the equivalent file for .bash_profile
[06:40] <Wolfwalker_Prime> Chaorain, I use it all the time on infected WIndows installs.
[06:40] <MeanEYE> ksinkar: how do you know it's not there?
[06:40] <Wolfwalker_Prime> Install Ubuntu to a flash drive, install some tools like ClamAV and etc, then use it to boot into an infected Windows computer.
[06:40] <soreau> Chaorain: It's been around for awhile now and the lists are constantly being updated
[06:40] <binary01> hey everyone. im having trouble configuring my xerox printer in ubuntu maverick. when I try to print anything i get pages of garbage. can anyone help me out?
[06:40] <MeanEYE> ksinkar: sorry, check .bashrc
[06:41] <Wolfwalker_Prime> Mount the computer's internal hard drive and clean out the junk.
[06:41] <Chaorain> MeanEYE: Uh where is 11.04? and is there a program that will install it to a USB, not just make a live USB?
[06:41] <Wolfwalker_Prime> Chaorain, I always just go through the normal install process, but when I select a disk I select my flash drive.
[06:42] <Wolfwalker_Prime> And BE SURE to tell GRUB to write to the flash drive in step 7, advanced tab.
[06:43] <eckirchn> Wolfwalker_Prime: what program does ubuntu provide to clean windows viruses
[06:43] <MeanEYE> Chaorain: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/alpha3
[06:43] <Wolfwalker_Prime> eckirchn, clamAV.  I sure don't keep it around to defend Ubuntu against viruses.  :P
[06:43] <MeanEYE> Chaorain: you can use program you have in your 10.10 installation
[06:44] <Chaorain> Wolfwalker_Prime: now why didn't I think of that?
[06:44] <eckirchn> Wolfwalker_Prime: it will scan ntfs for viruses?
[06:44] <MeanEYE> Chaorain: System -> Administration -> Startup disk creator
[06:44] <Wolfwalker_Prime> eckirchn, works for me every time.
[06:45] <Chaorain> MeanEYE: thanks, I'll do that right away.
[06:46] <MeanEYE> Chaorain: I wouldn't install 11.04 alpha 3 over your 10.10 ... since it's still alpha...:)
[06:46] <MeanEYE> start it from usb :D
[06:46] <eckirchn> Wolfwalker_Prime: interesting... you get a ton of viruses? think i have had 2 viruses in 10 years.. running WinXP..
[06:46] <Wolfwalker_Prime> I don't get viruses.  My friends do.
[06:46] <Chaorain> MeanEYE: yeah thats what I'm planning on
[06:46] <eckirchn> Wolfwalker_Prime: cleans them effectivly?
[06:46] <Wolfwalker_Prime> Friends who don't even install an antivirus...
[06:46] <eckirchn> Wolfwalker_Prime: i put AVAST on my winxp machines...
[06:47] <Wolfwalker_Prime> And get online every day, have DSL connections up all the time.
[06:47] <Madman> µÄ
[06:47] <Wolfwalker_Prime> And then ask me to clean out their computers.  "Something went wrong, dunno why..."
[06:47] <eckirchn> Wolfwalker_Prime: doesn't everyone?
[06:47] <Wolfwalker_Prime> Doesn't everyone what?  Have a DSL connection, or have one with no antivirus installed?
[06:48] <o2oo> Hi, who know about using the UML tool -> Dia ?
[06:48] <ksinkar> MeanEYE: i can't see it when i do ls -a
[06:48] <eckirchn> Wolfwalker_Prime: have a internet connection permanent?
[06:48] <MeanEYE> ksinkar: yeah I got that :) later... check .bashrc it should be there
[06:49] <ksinkar> MeanEYE: yes i have .bashrc. So is it the equivalent of .bash_profile? Do i make the same changes that I would make to .bash_profile
[06:50] <o2oo> who knows how to draw a "interface" in Dia ?
[06:50] <MeanEYE> ksinkar: I guess... don't know what changes are you refering to?
[06:53] <Wolfwalker_Prime> eckirchn, I don't know.  But my friends who have a permanent connection and no antivirus get lots of viruses.
[06:53] <Wolfwalker_Prime> Their computers are the ones I clean out.
[06:53] <Wolfwalker_Prime> And tell them to get an antivirus, antispyware... there are some good free ones.
[06:54] <Wolfwalker_Prime> Does no good.  They never bother to get any protection.
[06:55] <Timic> hey
[06:55] <Timic> i installed ubuntu on mah laptop
[06:55] <Wolfwalker_Prime> Huzzah!
[06:55] <Timic> and i connected it to a monitor
[06:55] <Timic> my monitor sees the startup of the computer just fine
[06:55] <Timic> but when ubuntu goes part "Ubuntu 10.10"
[06:55] <Timic> the monitor stops working
[06:56] <MeanEYE> Timic: System -> Preferences -> Monitors
[06:56] <MeanEYE> Timic: or use laptop key combo to switch to monitor completely, not sure what you want to do :D
[06:56] <Timic> wuts laptop key combo?
[06:56] <Timic> the screen is broken partially
[06:56] <Timic> i dont want to even see the laptop screen
[06:56] <MeanEYE> Timic: ok, which laptop?
[06:57] <appi_uppi> I am trying to play VCD in ubuntu 9.10, but its not playing in any media player. Could you please help if there are any alternative ways
[06:57] <appi_uppi> ?
[06:57] <Timic> its a compaq that had vista :P
[06:57] <Timic> uum
[06:57] <o2oo> hi, who knows how to draw a "interface" in Dia ?
[06:57] <Timic> where shoudl i look on it
[06:57] <MeanEYE> appi_uppi: did you try VLC Player?
[06:58] <o2oo> is that "interface" just draw as a "class" ?
[06:58] <Timic> nm MeanEYE
[06:58] <Timic> i got it to work using X screen :D
[06:58] <MeanEYE> Timic: you should have a combination of Function key with some other ... that has something like TV or something
[06:59] <Timic> ah yes meaneye, i just needed to do fn+f4
[06:59] <Timic> ty
[06:59] <MeanEYE> Timic: :D np... I just don't know which key is it :D ...
[07:01] <student101> Hey!
[07:01] <Chaorain> MeanEYE: Hey it looks like there still is a Netbook edition
[07:01] <eckirchn> student101: hello
[07:01] <MeanEYE> Chaorain: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/the-end-of-ubuntu-netbook-edition-the-return-of-ubuntu/
[07:02] <eckirchn> Chaorain: why run a netbook installation? i am still confused..
[07:02] <Timic> i got the "fce ultra" app
[07:02] <Timic> and i cant find it in applications
[07:03] <Chaorain> eckirchn: I run 4 different operating systems on my Desktop. I have over 30 different live cds. Thats why
[07:03] <MeanEYE> Timic: if it's not gnome application that's the reason you can't find it... try ALT+F2 and typing it's name
[07:03] <Timic> ah ty
[07:04] <MeanEYE> np
[07:04] <vingtras> hi. i've installed a command line system from the ubuntu alternate cd without setting up an internett connection during install how do i connect once i have internett access?
[07:05] <Chaorain> MeanEYE: ok makes more sense now. I've never seen this site before. I'm exited
[07:05] <eckirchn> Chaorain: are you using a mac running windows and osX and several linux?
[07:05] <MeanEYE> Chaorain: :D it's a good website ;) ...
[07:05] <red2kic> vingtras: Try "sudo ifconfig eth0 up && sudo dh<tab,tab> eth0"  Not sure. :P
[07:05] <eckirchn> are there ubunutu sponsered users here?
[07:06] <soreau> red2kic: dhclient?
[07:06] <MeanEYE> vingtras: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10078 :D there's a nice guide
[07:06] <red2kic> soreau: Yes. In my case, it's dhcpcd.
[07:06] <soreau> red2kic: arch?
[07:06] <red2kic> soreau: Yes.
[07:07] <soreau> red2kic: hint: This is #ubuntu ;)
[07:08] <red2kic> soreau: Yeah. I know that. :)
[07:08] <Chaorain> eckirchn: 2 windows, 2 linux
[07:08] <vingtras> ok, thanks
[07:08] <Chaorain> eckirchn: one of each for testing and stability
[07:08] <eckirchn> Chaorain: holy cow.. you just like to torment yourself?
[07:09] <MeanEYE> red2kic: what's the problem?
[07:09] <chu_> Hey guys, what would be the term I'm looking for if I want to do a "local" compile or software, say in the sense I don't have root privs on a system, and just want to compile something for my own user account?
[07:09] <red2kic> MeanEYE: Nothing.
[07:09] <chu_> "local" compile of* software
[07:09] <MeanEYE> red2kic: oh ok :D I thought you needed help
[07:10] <Chipzzz> MeanEYE: I still can't find it anywhere... can I keep my radeon drivers with unity or am I going to have to suffer with ATI's proprietary ones (or spring for an nVidia card)?
[07:10] <red2kic> chu_: Binary? >_>
[07:10] <MeanEYE> Chipzzz: sorry, you can't find what?
[07:10] <MeanEYE> chu_: you can compile without having root priviledges
[07:11] <red2kic> Executible binary. Meh.
[07:11] <soreau> Chipzzz: If radeon driver does not work OOTB, you should definitely file a bug
[07:11] <Chaorain> eckirchn: I do it for fun, I ENJOY it. oh and both my Linux are not mainstream
[07:11] <Chipzzz> I'm trying to find out if the radeon drivers are going to work with unity... as far as I can tell they don't & from the sounds of the recent discussion here, they might never
[07:12] <taran> is it possible  without restarting the system to switch between XP & Ubuntu on a dual boot system?
[07:12] <chu_> Mmm, ok true, yes I can. But I only have the privs for my local directory (home), I don't have write access to /usr/bin etc.
[07:12] <Chipzzz> soreau: tnx... that's what I was wondering :)
[07:12] <MeanEYE> Chipzzz: Ubuntu 10.10+  has open source drivers built in... which OS are you running?
[07:12] <amin_> I have a problem connecting to my modem any one wants to help
[07:12] <arand> taran: No, but you could run one of them in a virtual machine inside the other
[07:13] <taran> arand: ok
[07:13] <MeanEYE> taran: on the fly no, but there's something called Xen, virtualization, so you can run both at the same time... though that's not what you want
[07:13] <taran> arand: I have both system XP & Ubuntu and laos one XP on Virrtual box? Can I access the main XP available at bood loader through Vbox?
[07:14] <Chipzzz> MeanEYE: I'm running a 10.04 & a 10.10, both with (different) ATI cards. The ATI proprietary drivers are nothing but trouble & the radeon drivers are fine... I was just worried that I might have to go proprietary
[07:14] <amin_> I have a problem connecting to my modem any one wants to help
[07:14] <soreau> amin_: What kind of modem?
[07:14] <eckirchn> amin_: a classic phone line modem?
[07:14] <cinnabarisland12> RT3090BC4 driver (Markus heberling) reboot it works, after another one i doesn't, help please?
[07:15] <arand> taran: You could but running an already installed XP both normally an through virtualbox can be risky, I think.
[07:15] <MeanEYE> Chipzzz: Unity 3D is only available for ubuntu 11.04... Unity 2D is available for 10.10. The Unity you are trying to run is old and outdated. It uses different compositing engine.
[07:15] <taran> arand: ok
[07:15] <amin_> ADSL2+ BUFFALO WBMR-HP-GN
[07:15] <MeanEYE> Chipzzz: and that's the reason it doesn't find suitable drivers
[07:15] <appi_uppi> MeanEYE: Yes I tried VLC, even its not playing
[07:15] <soreau> Chipzzz: Yes, you want natty to test unity
[07:15] <eckirchn> amin_: you connecting via ethernet?
[07:15] <inf0del> when can we expect the next ubuntu release?
[07:15] <amin_> lan of course
[07:16] <inf0del> with the unity interface
[07:16] <soreau> Chipzzz: At least, the implementation of unity with compiz
[07:16] <amin_> I can not go to 192.168.11.1
[07:16] <MeanEYE> appi_uppi: try running VLC from gnome-terminal. You can get some more information. VCD could have some protection preventing anything other than Media Player from running it.
[07:16] <cinnabarisland12> inf0del: In April sometime
[07:16] <inf0del> i cant wait
[07:16] <inf0del> :D
[07:16] <Chipzzz> MeanEYE: the question is moot at the moment... I'm just concerned for the upgrade to 11.04... maybe I'll just cross that bridge when I get to it ;)
[07:16] <cinnabarisland12> inf0del: neither can I but we have to :P
[07:17] <MeanEYE> inf0del: 48 days to go to be precise :)
[07:17] <arand> inf0del: April 28, 2011
[07:17] <soreau> How can you make icons show up for 'system' menu?
[07:17] <MeanEYE> Chipzzz: you shouldn't worry. New Unity is using Compiz to draw stuff. Unity 2D uses Qt
[07:17] <appi_uppi> MeanEYE: Sure, let me try.
[07:17] <inf0del> testing kde desktop
[07:17] <arand> inf0del: However, early unstable alpha versions are available.
[07:17] <inf0del> dont like it
[07:17] <amin_> eckirchn: I can not go to 192.168.11.1
[07:17] <Chipzzz> MeanEYE: tnx :))
[07:17] <eckirchn> inf0del: are you really needing a update?
[07:17] <MeanEYE> inf0del: to me KDE is not usable since version 3 something
[07:17] <Fudge> anyone able to tell me what the text installers like? on alternate cd
[07:17] <MeanEYE> Chipzzz: np :D
[07:18] <inf0del> yeah
[07:18] <inf0del> the desktop feels messed
[07:18] <MeanEYE> inf0del: gnome on the other hand got much better lately
[07:18] <inf0del> indeed
[07:18] <alebartoto> Hello is there a .deb for php5.3 ?
[07:18] <recurs|ve> i have an iso9660-3 file made on ubuntu, i cant mount iton a mac, how can i convert it to level 2
[07:18] <eckirchn> amin_ using what type of protocol? why do you want  192.168.11.1
[07:19] <arand> Fudge: it's basically debian-installer, ncurses-based, installs using tasksel rather than imaging the live system.
[07:19] <MeanEYE> alebartoto: PHP in ubuntu repo is 5.3.3
[07:19] <Fudge> arand  thankingU
[07:19] <alebartoto> thanks
[07:19] <amin_> eckirchn: I want to change my modem setting
[07:20] <CoNFus3D> hey, quick question, I updated the linux kernel, now on grub, it has the old kernel and the new kernel listed as boot items... any idea how to get rid of the old kernel on boot?
[07:20] <MeanEYE> CoNFus3D: try sudo apt-get autoremove... if that doesn't help ... just  open synaptic and remove old kernels manually
[07:20] <CoNFus3D> ok cool thanks
[07:20] <MeanEYE> np
[07:21] <MeanEYE> CoNFus3D: grub menu will be updated automatically
[07:21] <MeanEYE> or you can just try and restart
[07:22] <ArseneRei> amin_: Are you sure you don't want 192.168.1.1?
[07:22] <eckirchn> amin_: based on your IP posting, open http:/192.168.11.1 or http:/192.168.11.254
[07:22] <CoNFus3D> I will try it next time I reboot.. thanks :)
[07:22] <eckirchn> amin_: paste the results of ipconfig
[07:22] <needlez> hey with the new update 11.04 will it be using gnome3?? and if so how will this effect compiz?? or will it??
[07:23] <amin_> eckirchn: http://pastebin.com/QTNAj4CJ
[07:23] <MeanEYE> needlez: default will be Unity with ability to go back to gnome 2.3x... but gnome 3 will be in repos
[07:23] <MeanEYE> compiz won't be affected
[07:23] <amin_> ArseneRe: http://pastebin.com/QTNAj4CJ
[07:23] <Xase> How do I properly update grub, to detect a new bootable drive?
[07:24] <needlez> ok, sounds good, i dont care for unity, and hopefully can still use compiz with gnome like ive been doing
[07:24] <red2kic> Xase: "sudo grub-update"
[07:24] <MeanEYE> needlez: you'll be able to do that
[07:24] <Xase> That's what I thought red2kic
[07:24] <MeanEYE> though unity might turn out good
[07:24] <Xase> However red2kic
[07:25] <nit-wit> suod update-grub
[07:25] <nit-wit> *sudo
[07:25] <Xase> [sudo] password for heather:
[07:25] <Xase> sudo: grub-update: command not found
[07:25] <nit-wit> Xase, sudo update-grub
[07:25] <Xase> Ah ok nit-wit thanks
[07:25] <Xase> Worked this time.
[07:25] <eckirchn> amin_: ok you are not connected to a net connection on the computer you posted ifconfig?
[07:25] <soreau> How can you make icons show up for 'system' menu?
[07:26] <red2kic> Xase: Whoops.
[07:26] <Xase> BRB... gonna try it.
[07:26] <soreau> How can you make icons show up in 'System' menu?
[07:27] <amin_> eckirchn: anything?
[07:27] <red2kic> soreau: gconf-editor. Somewhere in /desktop/gnome/interface/
[07:27] <MeanEYE> soreau: gconf-editor: /desktop/gnome/interface/menus_have_icons
[07:28] <MeanEYE> no clue why ubuntu disabled that :/
[07:28] <red2kic> MeanEYE: Ubuntu have nothing to do with it. It was Gnome's decision.
[07:28] <MeanEYE> really?
[07:28] <MeanEYE> and I was cursing ubuntu all this time
[07:28] <cinnabarisland12> RT3090BC4 driver (Markus heberling) initial reboot it works, after another one it doesn't, help please?
[07:29] <eckirchn> amin_: do you have an internet connection on the machine you posted your ipconfig?
[07:29] <eckirchn> amin_: doesn't look like you do
[07:29] <soreau> red2kic: MeanEYE: Yep, thanks
[07:30] <MeanEYE> np
[07:30] <amin_> eckirchn: az you can see in the paste bin I is the ifconfig of the machine and there is only one machine which I am using right now
[07:30] <Chipzzz> amin_: can you ping the new modem?
[07:30] <cinnabarisland12> RT3090BC4 driver (Markus heberling) initial reboot it works, after another one it doesn't, help please?
[07:31] <soreau> Does anyone know if persistent usb install is designed to not save visual effects=extra setting?
[07:31] <amin_> Chipzzz yes the ping is working
[07:31] <soreau> Would make since if it did, I'm just wondering if it's intended or not
[07:31] <eckirchn> amin_: ya, but it doesn't show in IP address for any connection
[07:31] <c|oneman> how do I install apt-get? I tried yum install apt but It says no such package
[07:31] <eckirchn> c|oneman: Fedora or Ubuntu?
[07:31] <MeanEYE> c|oneman: are you using ubuntu?
[07:31] <c|oneman> ubuntu
[07:32] <MeanEYE> you already have it installed
[07:32] <inf0del> gnome 3 looks pretty sweet
[07:32] <Chipzzz> amin_: then perhaps all you need to do is to change your gateway & name servers to 192.168.11.1
[07:32] <c|oneman> apparently not :/
[07:32] <inf0del> :D
[07:32] <cinnabarisland12> RT3090BC4 driver (Markus heberling) initial reboot it works, after another one it doesn't, help please?
[07:32] <eckirchn> c|oneman: yum is a Fedora package installer
[07:32] <c|oneman> how can I tell which linux this server is running?
[07:33] <eckirchn> c|oneman uname -r
[07:33] <cinnabarisland12> RT3090BC4 driver (Markus heberling) initial reboot it works, after another one it doesn't, help please?
[07:33] <c|oneman> 2.6.18-194.26.1.el5.028stab079.2PAE
[07:34] <MeanEYE> c|oneman: cat /etc/lsb-release
[07:34] <c|oneman> no such file or directory
[07:34] <MeanEYE> there has to be lsb-something
[07:35] <cinnabarisland12> RT3090BC4 driver (Markus heberling) initial reboot it works, after another one it doesn't, help please?
[07:35] <eckirchn> amin_: i can't help you, from what i know.. i don't think your problem is linux, its you router.. typically, your router runs at the same address you do but a xxx.xxx.xxx.001 or xxx.xxx.xxx.254
[07:35] <MeanEYE> c|oneman: cat `ls /etc/*-release`
[07:35] <MeanEYE> try that
[07:35] <Fudge> using alternate isntaller can you install packages before installing?
[07:36] <Fudge> i.e speechd-up to take advantage of speakup screen reader for text installer
[07:36] <c|oneman> heh
[07:36] <c|oneman> CentOS release 5 (Final)
[07:36] <c|oneman> I guess the rebuild didn't work :/
[07:36] <Chipzzz> cjoneman: are you running suse?
[07:36] <Chipzzz> whoops...
[07:36] <eckirchn> is this room moderated?
[07:36] <MeanEYE> c|oneman: CentOS is good, but it's redhat based, why would you install apt-get :D
[07:37] <MeanEYE> eckirchn: should be, why?
[07:37] <c|oneman> MeanEYE: I thought I had ubuntu
[07:37] <MeanEYE> c|oneman: oh, too bad you don't
[07:37] <c|oneman> this vps has a bunch of distros that they 'image on' on demand
[07:37] <c|oneman> I selected ubuntu, but looks like it didnt apply
[07:37] <Chipzzz> ;)
[07:38] <MeanEYE> c|oneman: 1and1?
[07:38] <eckirchn> MeanEYE: i only wonder if there are ubuntu experts here.. my understanding is ubunut is going to implement SELinux.. i can only imagine the questions...
[07:38] <c|oneman> hostrail
[07:38] <c|oneman> costs about 2$/mo ;)
[07:39] <c|oneman> I think I'm just gonna bail, too much trouble dealing with this half-assed setup
[07:39] <eckirchn> c|oneman bail on what?
[07:39] <c|oneman> hostrail's vpsa
[07:39] <c|oneman> -a
[07:40] <eckirchn> c|oneman do you want to run a website from your house?
[07:40] <c|oneman> no
[07:41] <c|oneman> I wanted to find a way to make this 2$ service into something
[07:41] <c|oneman> like a VPN
[07:41] <c|oneman> to watch american hulu and netflix ;)
[07:41] <StepNjump> > I have installed clamav but it tells me it's outdated, what should I do?
[07:42] <eckirchn> c|oneman: why not just intall vpn?
[07:42] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: check if they have ppa
[07:42] <c|oneman> I dunno how to use something that isn't apt-get
[07:42] <StepNjump> Hi again meanEYE, what do you mean ppa?
[07:43] <StepNjump> meaneye: clamav-ppa?
[07:43] <Polah> If I have a shared folder, would that be available automatically on boot without logging in?
[07:44] <StepNjump> I'm installing now the mailscanner
[07:44] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: if they have their own ubuntu archives...
[07:44] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: let me check
[07:44] <eckirchn> Polah: if its in your /etc/fstab file it will
[07:45] <red2kic> Polah: Sure, as long as the service is running at boot.
[07:45] <red2kic> Polah: Samba? (SMB). Things should be same as you set them up.
[07:45] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clamav/+archive/ppa
[07:46] <eckirchn> red2kic Polah: is this a samba share or a NFS share?
[07:47] <StepNjump> MeanEYE btw my connection used to disconnect on a regular basis so I found out:  in IPv4 settings tab I flagged available to all users it works great... for your KB (FYI)
[07:47] <StepNjump> ok tnx MeanEYE, let me check
[07:47] <MeanEYE> oh ok :D
[07:47] <MeanEYE> well time for work
[07:47] <MeanEYE> see you around ppl
[07:49] <eckirchn> n
[07:49] <StepNjump> MeanEye, what does it mean? do I need to add a repository?
[07:49] <eckirchn> opps
[07:49] <mati_> test
[07:49] <StepNjump> MeanEYE Oh yes, by adding ppa:ubuntu-clamav/ppa to your system's Software Sources.
[07:50] <StepNjump> never done that... I'm green
[07:50] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-clamav/ppa && sudo apt-get update
[07:50] <MeanEYE> :D
[07:50] <StepNjump> MeanEYE: The wifi is working sooo smooth! Awsome
[07:50] <MeanEYE> glad to hear that
[07:50] <MeanEYE> gotta run now... :) have fun!
[07:50] <StepNjump> Roger. Thank you. I will take a note of that so I don't bug you with the same questions
[07:52] <DannyButterman> Hi there. Does someone know how to exit pidgin ? I started it unwillingly, and now it has mixed with the usual session manager, and I don't see any way to return to the normal session manager (I'm on 9.04 btw)
[07:53] <StepNjump> MeanEYE: It seems to have updated but when I do a stop and then a start, it tells me the engine is still outdated
[07:54] <StepNjump> freshclam wouldn't help any I don't think.. I did that before
[07:54] <gundas> hi all i have ubuntu 10.10 server and im trying to run a shell script remtotely and want to shutdown my terminal connection but the shell script keeps stopping - is there a way around this
[07:54] <root__> hi
[07:54] <StepNjump> How do I know the version meaneye? clamav -v?
[07:54] <rob_p> StepNjump: It probably also tells you not to panic!  :)
[07:55] <StepNjump> Yep it does!
[07:55] <StepNjump> I'm not panicked! lol
[07:55] <gundas> I tried doing this ./run.sh & but it still outputs to the screen
[07:55] <StepNjump> rob_p, I might panic on windoze
[07:55] <StepNjump> Not worried here
[07:55] <rob_p> StepNjump: If it's fairly recent, I wouldn't worry too much.  As long as your definitions are up to date, you're fine.
[07:56] <StepNjump> Ah ok rob_p, thanks
[07:56] <DannyButterman> Actually I could exit pidgin thanks to kill -9 but I'd like to know a clean way to do it
[07:56] <StepNjump> so this daemon just runs in the background?
[07:56] <StepNjump> when I do a start?
[07:57] <rob_p> StepNjump: It depends on how you have it set up.  I run it, "on demand" whenever the mail scanner calls it.  Other than that, why have it taking up resources?
[07:57] <Guest31331> what folders should I add to BackInTime so I have a good backup if i screw something up ? (i'm on a 10.10 via wubi)
[07:58] <rob_p> StepNjump: But that's on a server that handles mail for a few domains...
[07:58] <rob_p> StepNjump: I don't bother with anti-virus on the Linux desktop boxes.
[07:58] <StepNjump> rob_p ok... yes.. No worries here, it's not windoze after all
[07:58] <rob_p> StepNjump: Exactly!
[07:59] <StepNjump> I was just trying for fun
[07:59] <StepNjump> rob_p, should I worry about installing a firewall?
[07:59] <rob_p> StepNjump: I only bother with it on the server because it handles mail which eventually ends up on Windoze boxes.
[07:59] <rob_p> StepNjump: Depends.
[07:59] <StepNjump> kk
[08:00] <StepNjump> rob_p if I just leave it like that, there's no much problem then?
[08:00] <root> hi all
[08:00] <rob_p> StepNjump: Firewall for your desktop Linux box?  What services are you planning on opening up to the 'Net?
[08:00] <root__> ?
[08:01] <StepNjump> Not much for now
[08:01] <StepNjump> http, pop, smtp
[08:01] <StepNjump> gopher lol
[08:01] <root__> ok
[08:01] <rob_p> StepNjump: ...and do those servers not have the control mechanisms you need to limit access in the ways you want?
[08:01] <Guest61946> i have backtrack but it con't be full screen can somebody help me plz?
[08:02] <StepNjump> rob_p, no server, just my desktop
[08:02] <StepNjump> I was kidding when I said gopher
[08:02] <rob_p> StepNjump: The point is, there's rarely a need for a firewall on a properly configured box.  I only use firewalls where the daemon or server process doesn't give me the control I want over access to it's resources.
[08:02] <root__> for full screen use alt+enter @ guest
[08:03] <yuskhanzab> hello all, here i got some more problems.. its about the panel when sometimes cant display properly.. any idea whats going on?
[08:03] <jingqq5210> how to set Xterm start as full screen
[08:04] <rob_p> StepNjump: On a desktop Linux box, a firewall is next to useless in *most* cases.
[08:04] <StepNjump> Ok I see... I will leave it like that then..
[08:04] <StepNjump> thank you rob_p
[08:04] <rob_p> StepNjump: welcome
[08:04] <StepNjump> rob_p figured! Linux is awsome
[08:04] <rob_p> StepNjump: It is indeed!
[08:05] <rob_p> StepNjump: So is Mac...
[08:05] <StepNjump> rob_p btw, do you know how to fiddle around with xchat settings?
[08:05] <yuskhanzab> cant someone tell me how to fix this?
[08:05] <rob_p> StepNjump: I don't use xchat, sorry.
[08:05] <StepNjump> Yeah I saw that on TV news.. they mentioned just that..!
[08:05] <yuskhanzab> sometimes my top panel cant display properly... and some times missing?
[08:05] <StepNjump> I think Win 7 was built on some linux source code
[08:06] <StepNjump> Ok no problemo
[08:06] <rilee> ^_^
[08:07] <rob_p> StepNjump: Well, the water should be hot enough for my shower so I'm off to get ready for the day..
[08:07] <StepNjump> In case someone might know, I'm trying to set up the log to create a new file each day so I can read what was going on here on the channel later on. I think the way it's set now, it automatically erases my logs every day
[08:08] <StepNjump> Ok rob_p have a good day... A friend of mine told me about this new gadget out there ..
[08:08] <StepNjump> it's a shower head that changes colour based on the temperature of the water
[08:08] <StepNjump> from blue to red lol
[08:08] <StepNjump> so you can tell without having to even touch the water. Ok, have a good day and thanks!
[08:09] <rob_p> StepNjump: I have to flip a switch and wait for an hour or so before I take my shower.  Usually the sun heats the solar panel enough to make a nice hot shower by now.  But it's overcast and cold right now.  So I have to rely on electricty :(
[08:10] <rob_p> StepNjump: Ok, later...
[08:10] <extra11> rob_p that's awesome you manage to use the son to heat up shower water
[08:10] <extra11> bet that costed a fortune
[08:10] <StepNjump> lol ok! good idea.. Good for the environment. there should be more people like you. take care!
[08:10] <rob_p> extra11: It actually works surprisingly well!
[08:10] <extra11> what kinda price range we talkin
[08:11] <Chaorain> I'm trying to install 11.04 Alpha 3 to a flash drive, I would like to use Fat32 so it can be read by Windows but for the pre made mount points it won't let me. Can I still force it to be root?
[08:12] <rob_p> extra11: Less than you'd imagine, I'm sure.  But not always convient!  Plus, you have to live where the sun is usually shining and strong most of the time.
[08:12] <red2kic> Chaorain: More time developing codes. Less time playing with live discs. :)
[08:13] <extra11> :D
[08:13] <Chaorain> red2kic: I'm not a programer
[08:13] <red2kic> Chaorain: Either am I. :(
[08:14] <Engin> how to make a display the default one, I want to see my panels on the external display. There's no such option in Monitors.
[08:14] <tripelb> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/ppa   ---- no trusted public key found. got command from http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/libreoffice-3-3-released/  (UB10.04)
[08:14] <rob_p> extra11: anyway, gotta run...
[08:14] <mgolisch_> Engin: you can change the panel behavior in gconf
[08:14] <extra11> have a good one friend
[08:14] <mgolisch_> Engin: like have it display the panels on one screen only
[08:14] <red2kic> Engin: You can drag the panels over there. Hold ALT and drag it over.
[08:15] <mgolisch_> or do you use xinerama or something?
[08:15] <mgolisch_> like big desktop
[08:15] <Engin> red2kic: that is nice
[08:15] <Engin> dough, it should have been in the Monitors.
[08:15] <Engin> And window resize handle requires first grade FPS skills to catch
[08:16] <tripelb> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/ppa   ---- no trusted public key found. got command from http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/libreoffice-3-3-released/  (UB10.04) ---> but the page says that command is for 10.10
[08:16] <red2kic> Engin: Are you using Nvidia?
[08:17] <Engin> my laptop has dual display adapters, I'm not sure which one ubuntu picked, probably intel one
[08:17] <gedO> Hello. I have some problems with anjuta IDE installation. Can someone help???
[08:17] <arand> !repeat | tripelb
[08:17] <red2kic> Engin: If you're not sure, check "Additional Drivers" -- Anything in there?
[08:17] <red2kic> Engin: Also, it could be in Nvidia Settings. There are option to select primary monitor, not in Monitors.
[08:18] <tripelb> arand, I added an important point to my question. I apologize for not making it clearer to you that I added that.
[08:18] <Chaorain> random question.  If I install Nvidia propriatary drivers on my USB install and run in on a comp with an AMD card would that cause problems?
[08:18] <cyberbob> hi all
[08:18] <gedO> Hello. I have some problems with anjuta IDE installation. Can someone help???
[08:18] <arand> tripelb: It may be that the ubuntu keyserver is having problems and you may have to add the key manually, if you want it
[08:18] <Gnea> !java
[08:18] <cyberbob> Skype for linux is just available for voice conversation can i have a video conversation using my ubuntu box ?
[08:19] <red2kic> cyberbob: It does videos too. I have used it in the past.
[08:20] <arand> tripelb: instructions for adding the key manually should be available at the ppa page
[08:20] <root__> hey guys python or c/c++? which is best?
[08:20] <cyberbob> red2kic: skype for linux offer video conversation too ?
[08:20] <fairuz> root__: depends on what you want to do?
[08:20] <pepee> Engin, tried running in safe graphics mode (or whatever is called)?
[08:20] <tripelb> arand. I have no idea what you are talking about. PPA page?? key???
[08:20] <red2kic> cyberbob: Yes. Why did you said voice conversation in first place?
[08:21] <red2kic> cyberbob: Were you assuming?
[08:21] <pepee> Engin, ubuntu is more like a beta...
[08:21] <Engin> pepee: after I set my resolution to a few fancy settings it worked
[08:21] <tripelb> arand, I've been running ubuntu ofr about 3.5 years, installing things with apt-get and never dealt with either of those two concepts.
[08:21] <root__> @fairuz i want to go for hacking
[08:21] <cyberbob> red2kic: Actually I did'nt find any option i.e vido Call in skype. .
[08:21] <Bardology> Hi guys
[08:21] <pepee> Engin, if you want something more stable try debian
[08:21] <gratidude> cyberbob: red2kic is right. Video is supported. I just used it to video chat with a colleague.
[08:21] <pepee> don't know about other distros
[08:21] <inf0del> lol @root_
[08:22] <arand> tripelb: with that command you are adding an additional repository.
[08:22] <red2kic> cyberbob: Connect with someone. There are a buttow to start a video chat.
[08:22] <root__> :P
[08:22] <Bardology> Having '* * * * * echo "TICK"' should print "TICK" every minute, right?
[08:22] <Bardology> Will that print to standard out?
[08:22] <Bardology> Umm... that's in crontab
[08:22] <red2kic> Bardology: You wouldn't see it, me think. Best to output it to a file so you know it's working. :)
[08:22] <root_> anybody running bt5
[08:22] <Bardology> Good call :)
[08:22] <red2kic> Bardology: Something with $(date)
[08:23] <Bardology> I should just be able to check the modification stamp...
[08:23] <arand> tripelb: You will likely be able to install the new software from the new repository without the key, which is used to confirm the authenticity of the packages.
[08:23] <Bardology> meh, $(date) sounds like a better idea
[08:23] <pepee> Engin, or just install a LTS release
[08:24] <tripelb> anand, that is still not intelligible to me. new repository, huh. not mentioned anywhere. well I wasnt able to install it so the probably fails.
[08:24] <tripelb> nevermind anand I have abiword and I'll do it another day.
[08:24] <tripelb> Meanwhile check out the tsunami in Hawaii.
[08:25] <tripelb> Tsunami sirens just went on in Honolulu, a 3-5m wave from the Honshu quake is due to make landfall within ten minutes
[08:25] <inf0del> 8.9 quake hit japan
[08:25] <arand> tripelb: Well that is the fault of omgubuntu for not giving any information except for the "magic command"
[08:25] <Gnea> inf0del: offtopic, but yes, we know
[08:26] <phonex01> helllo guys
[08:26] <phonex01> help here
[08:26] <phonex01> i need matlab 2010 for ubuntu
[08:26] <phonex01> MATHWORKS_R2010B
[08:26] <FloodBot1> phonex01: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:26] <phonex01> im not floooooding
[08:26] <Gnea> phonex01: say it all on one line, please
[08:26] <gedO> Hello. I have some problems with anjuta IDE installation. Can someone help???
[08:27] <Gnea> phonex01: you'll need to download it and install it from the matlab website
[08:27] <rajvi> i don''t want to set key rings ..is thir a way out??
[08:27] <phonex01> ok hello guys , help here , i need matlab 2010 for ubuntu !
[08:27] <tripelb> ok, really arand, I feel I need to understand what is going on, meanwhile I am grateful for "magic commands". One another hand, I've installed dozens of things and never used a key, unless unknowingly. Ill look it up. But I looked up PPA yesterday and today and what I understood was, installs program and all dependencies. Sort of like a make. (ok)
[08:27] <phonex01> what about the liecnce ?
[08:27] <Gnea> phonex01: pay for it.
[08:27] <Guest31331> what folders should I add to BackInTime so I have a good backup if i screw something up ? (i'm on a 10.10 via wubi)
[08:27] <arunagirinathar> hello all :D
[08:27] <phonex01> pay ?
[08:27] <Chipzzz> phoenx01: http://www.mathworks.com/products/matlab/tryit.html
[08:27] <phonex01> are you kidding ?
[08:28] <Gnea> phonex01: why would I be kidding?
[08:28] <gedO> Guys, what this error means??? "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources."
[08:28] <phonex01> i never payed for a software !
[08:28] <Chipzzz> phoenex01: try piratebay
[08:28] <Gnea> !piracy | Chipzzz
[08:29] <arunagirinathar> Is there any way to sync between two IMAP servers  at regular intervals ?
[08:29] <Chipzzz> sorry... phoenx01: not here!
[08:29] <arunagirinathar> (regular intervals == CRON / Anacron) but the sync functionality in Courier ??
[08:29] <phonex01> hi
[08:29] <phonex01> i found it
[08:29] <Chipzzz> bye
[08:30] <fairuz> Hi, I just need to write a line of code in privileged mode. Is there any way doing this than writing a device driver?
[08:30] <rajvi> install 10.10 via wubi ,.. date n time always wrong ..newbie here
[08:31] <arand> tripelb: You can manually add the key using (presuming the ubuntu keyserver is working): sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 1378B444
[08:31] <arand> tripelb: This is the repository in question: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa
[08:31] <Bardology> red2kic: Workd great, thanks!
[08:32] <Guest31331> rajvi, i know right? I get wrong time too
[08:32] <rajvi> ok any solution
[08:33] <rajvi> its not ableto pickmy bios time n date\
[08:33] <Guest31331> rajvi, lol just change it to the real one
[08:33] <rajvi> i didn't understand
[08:34] <rajvi> i changed it several times but every time i rbbot wrong time n date
[08:34] <Guest31331> go to system -> administration -> Time and Date and change it, rajvi
[08:34] <Chipzzz> rajvi: sudo date [new date]
[08:34] <Guest31331> date is fine
[08:34] <Guest31331> time is messed up
[08:34] <Guest31331> and wtf am i guest :|
[08:34] <Chipzzz> sudo date [new date/time]
[08:35] <gedO> Guys, where all programs are isntalled???
[08:35] <Chipzzz> ged0: a lot of them are in /bin, some in /opt, and others in /usr
[08:36] <elFidel> gedO: the "which" command in terminal might help in such questions
[08:36] <gedO> Chipzzz, Okey, maiby you know how to add workaholic to startup applications?
[08:36] <AnubArack> gedO, there's no equivalent of Program Files if that's what you are wondering
[08:36] <saud12> hi all
[08:36] <AnubArack> hi
[08:37] <saud12> how r u doing today :)
[08:37] <rajvi> thanks chipzzi think its gonna work this Jai Ho Ubuntu :)
[08:37] <AnubArack> gedO, System -> preferences -> Startup Applications
[08:37] <saud12> i love ubnutu  really
[08:38] <Chipzzz> ;)
[08:38] <doogie> plz someone tell me russian channel
[08:38] <red2kic> !ru | doogie
[08:38] <AnubArack> gedO, there you hit ADD and imput the info there
[08:38] <saud12> did there is any linux better than ubnutu ?
[08:38] <Bardology> Hmm, putting "man top" into google doesn't just get the expected man files :|
[08:38] <elFidel> saud12: there is no "best" in general
[08:39] <gedO> AnubArack, I don't know how to write command
[08:39] <AnubArack> saud12, they are tailored for different user bases
[08:39] <elFidel> saud12: at the ends its always a question what you need,want etc
[08:39] <austinium> hi, is it possible to find the version of SquashFS used in a live CD???
[08:39] <saud12> this the think i hope will be
[08:39] <red2kic> saud12: Ubuntu is best for newcomers.
[08:39] <Sonne> AnubArack, i hereby express my respect for you and your nickname <3
[08:39] <AnubArack> gedO, usualy the command is the name of the program itself, try it in terminal, if it launches it then that's the onme
[08:39] <AnubArack> Sonne, ty <3
[08:39] <red2kic> AnubArack: You were here earlier with... gnome-terminal issue?
[08:39] <gedO> okey
[08:40] <AnubArack> red2kic, i was indeed
[08:40] <red2kic> AnubArack: Got it fixed?
[08:40] <AnubArack> was a bitch to fix
[08:40] <rajvi> all packages installs fine but returns  a exit code : -1 stating installation failed but the packages to installs ( Ubuntu 10.10 via Wubi)
[08:40] <thevishy> why java doesnt load randomnly
[08:40] <red2kic> AnubArack: Ah. What was the solution? I think you went on suicidal mission when you tried something without learning how to roll back to graphical.
[08:40] <AnubArack> yeah, went to something like a registry editor (idk the name) and unchecked some options there
[08:40] <gedO> AnubArack, Thx. I just added
[08:40] <pankaj_sharma> hello people
[08:41] <red2kic> AnubArack: Got it.
[08:41] <AnubArack> gedO, now try a log off/ log in and see if it starts
[08:41] <thevishy> when I refresh it does come too at times
[08:41] <AnubArack> red2kic, can't remeber specifics now as i didnt sleep last night >.>
[08:41] <AnubArack> something along the lines of gconfig or smth
[08:42] <saud12> thanks all of you
[08:42] <saud12> see u again
[08:42] <AnubArack> have a great spring day, saud12
[08:42] <saud12> and have a nice weekend
[08:42] <AnubArack> u2
[08:42] <rajvi> all packages installs fine but returns a exit code : -1 stating installation failed but the packages to installs ( Ubuntu 10.10 via Wubi)
[08:42] <yanchunsai> excuse me
[08:43] <pepee> sorry for the offtopic: http://www.weather.gov/ptwc/?region=1&id=pacific.2011.03.11.083004 <- tsunami alert for pacific ocean
[08:43] <AnubArack> pepee, saw it on the news ... sucks :(
[08:43] <pepee> ya
[08:44] <pepee> kinda worrying to me... 8.8 wtf
[08:44] <rajvi> God bless all ameen
[08:44] <yanchunsai> anyone here can Help me
[08:44] <pepee> there is no such thing as god
[08:44] <pepee> !ask | yanchunsai
[08:44] <AnubArack> yanchunsai, ask and you will be assisted if we know
[08:45] <AnubArack> pepee, agreed but it's not nice to slander other people's beliefs :P
[08:45] <pepee> heh
[08:45] <Chipzzz> pepee: I just saw a Japanese island that got hit HARD!
[08:45] <dougztr> like "i changed my motherboard and now eth0 is gone and all i have is eth1. how can i make eth1 boot up as eth0 now?"
[08:45] <pepee> anyway, best of luck to those affected
[08:45] <yanchunsai> i couldn't open the firefox
[08:46] <AnubArack> yanchunsai, error or something ?
[08:46] <yanchunsai> yeah
[08:46] <rajvi> just saw news bad bad
[08:46] <AnubArack> yanchunsai, details, pictures, anything ?
[08:46] <rajvi> india had it hard few years back
[08:46] <pepee> yanchunsai, please type firefox in the console
[08:46] <dougztr> so ... how can i make udev reset its cache so it rescans my modules agin next boot?
[08:47] <AnubArack> yanchunsai, you can also try Alt+F2 and type firefox then hit enter
[08:48] <pankaj_sharma> hello all
[08:48] <AnubArack> i like it when people lauch apps from terminal but end up closing the terminal .... then app goes *puff*
[08:49] <yanchunsai> nothing heppen
[08:49] <pankaj_sharma> dir
[08:49] <Chipzzz> AnubArack: & then they're on the horn with customer service to ask where their data went?
[08:49] <red2kic> AnubArack: Open a terminal. Run "shopt -s huponexit ; gedit ; exit"  It does not go *poof* :)
[08:50] <AnubArack> Sonne, why do you likez mah name ? warcraft fan or alterIWnet user?
[08:50] <Sonne> more of a warcraft fan :)
[08:50] <AnubArack> red2kic, yeah but @ that poit they are newbs ... like me
[08:50] <pankaj_sharma> dota is ma game
[08:50] <Sonne> brb
[08:51] <yanchunsai> my english is so poor that i can't  exprise  clearly
[08:51] <dougztr> i can make out what you're trying to say
[08:51] <AnubArack> damn hard to resize windows in ubuntu
[08:52] <AnubArack> w/o using compiz ofc
[08:52] <pankaj_sharma> i stuck with irrsi
[08:52] <pankaj_sharma> m*
[08:52] <amh345> when i execute "export some_thing blah blah"   where does that actually write to?
[08:52] <iceroot> pankaj_sharma: whats the problem?
[08:52] <ikonia> amh345: shell memory
[08:52] <pankaj_sharma> iceroot: how to switchback to fullscreen mode?
[08:53] <amh345> ikonia: ahh. so when i close shell, it goes away?
[08:53] <arand> AnubArack: Use alt+middlemouse ?
[08:53] <ikonia> correct
[08:53] <amh345> great, thanks
[08:53] <iceroot> ikonia: sure?
[08:53] <ikonia> iceroot: yup
[08:53] <AnubArack> arand, i said w/o compiz
[08:53] <iceroot> ikonia: hm, then why is http_proxy working with export http_proxy...
[08:53] <ikonia> iceroot: you exported it
[08:53] <pankaj_sharma> someone plz tell me how to switchback to fullscreen in irrsi
[08:54] <iceroot> ikonia: yes and closing the terminal
[08:54] <arand> AnubArack: Oh, didn't know that was a compiz-only thing
[08:54] <ikonia> iceroot: because you exported it
[08:54] <iceroot> ikonia: hm, if i am correct, you said, its lost when closing the terminal
[08:54] <AnubArack> arand, ofc i'm not sure as i'm new to this but the setting are in there
[08:54] <arand> pankaj_sharma: fullscreen?
[08:54] <majidPointer_> hi all
[08:54] <majidPointer_> any body there
[08:54] <AnubArack> nope
[08:55] <majidPointer_> :)
[08:55] <pankaj_sharma> arand yes
[08:55] <ikonia> iceroot: for of all, it depends if it's set globally to be "exported" into child processes, or if it's just set within the shell
[08:55] <majidPointer_> do u khnow how can i draw a polygon in QT and change that bear/?
[08:55] <iceroot> ikonia: yes, thats correct, so i think i just get your answer wrong
[08:56] <arand> AnubArack: Nope, that's available in metacity as well, not at all discoverable, but anyways.
[08:56] <iceroot> majidPointer_: #qt i would try
[08:56] <ikonia> iceroot: try it "export ICEROOT="hi"" close the shell, open a new one and echo $ICEROOT
[08:56] <majidPointer_> iceroot : tanx
[08:56] <iceroot> ikonia: hm, strange, its lost
[08:56] <AnubArack> arand, good to know, esp for laptops that i can't get compiz on
[08:57] <ikonia> iceroot: because it's only in that shell and children of that shell
[08:57] <AnubArack> sigh why bother with backup inside linux ... i'll just boot into 7 and copy over the wubi folder
[08:57] <ikonia> AnubArack: don't bother then, it's up to you
[08:58] <iceroot> ikonia: what is the way to have it global without touching /etc/profile or other related files
[08:58] <AnubArack> ikonia, this is my 4th install in 2 days ....
[08:58] <ikonia> iceroot: it depends, for example http_proxy which you referenced earlier I think is coming down from the gnome desktop's "enviornment" into your shell, but I've not looked at the current gnome environment enough to be sure
[08:58] <AnubArack> trying to fox this and that ... and end up ruining the os
[08:59] <Chipzzz> ikonia: so why did his export of the  http_proxy persist beyond his shell?... not taking issue... just curious
[08:59] <ikonia> AnubArack: that doesn't change what I said, it's up to you if you want to backup
[08:59] <ikonia> Chipzzz: it actually doesn't, I think (not looked) it's the gnome desktop enviornment that's populating it
[08:59] <AnubArack> well it's easier to copy 9 gb of file than wait for an install + setting up ...
[08:59] <iceroot> ikonia: hm, ok, normally http_proxy is a normal shell-variable which is working fine without gnome but i think i should to some reading about shell/bash basics
[09:00] <ikonia> iceroot: it is a normal shell varible, however it's also used in gnome
[09:00] <Chipzzz> ikonia: so changing a gnome env variable withing a shell will change it globally?
[09:00] <dougztr> well, here goes. I'm upgrading ubuntu studio from who know when to current. 387 upgraded packages.
[09:00] <ikonia> iceroot: try a test "export HTTP_PROXY="127.0.0.1"" close that shell, open a new one "echo $HTTP_PROXY"
[09:01] <ikonia> Chipzzz: not from the shell, as that varible is still a "shell" varible
[09:02] <iceroot> ikonia: lost, so i think i did something different last time setting http_proxy
[09:02] <ikonia> iceroot: agreed, I think it's set within gnome and being pushed down to your shell
[09:02] <ikonia> iceroot: (for example)
[09:02] <Chipzzz> ikonia: interesting...
[09:02] <iceroot> ikonia: ah, i know the reason. normally my login-shell is zsh and there it is working, just not working in bash
[09:03] <mushin> Anyone know about any good programming/java channels?
[09:03] <ikonia> iceroot: so you can set ICEROOT="hi" in zsh, close zsh open a new one and echo $ICEROOT and it says "hi"
[09:03] <iceroot> majidPointer_: ##java
[09:03] <cyberbob> Can I use my nokia n95 as web cam with my ubuntu
[09:03] <ikonia> mushin: come on, think about it
[09:03] <mushin> :D
[09:03] <iceroot> mushin: ##java
[09:03] <ikonia> Chipzzz: no
[09:03] <iceroot> majidPointer_: sorry wrong nick
[09:03] <ikonia> Chipzzz: sorry,. not you
[09:03] <ikonia> cyberbob: no
[09:04] <iceroot> ikonia: correct, i dont know if it is zsh default or because of my "funny" .zshrc which is doing very cool things
[09:04] <wollex> hey
[09:04] <Chipzzz> ikonia: np
[09:04] <ikonia> iceroot: I must have a look at that
[09:04] <cyberbob> ikonia: can you please explain a little . .
[09:04] <iceroot> ikonia: but related to bash, you are correct, export-vars are getting lost if the shell is closed
[09:04] <ikonia> cyberbob: "no you can't do that"
[09:05] <ikonia> iceroot: I'm surprised they work in zsh to be honest
[09:06] <iceroot> ikonia: i dont mean, setting something in bash, is seen by zsh, i mean, setting export in zsh will survive closing the shell
[09:06] <ikonia> iceroot: no, I know what you mean, I'm surprised it works in zsh, I'll have a look at it
[09:07] <iceroot> ikonia: my config is holding "global export" which is doing the job
[09:07] <ikonia> iceroot: ah, so it's a specific setting
[09:07] <iceroot> ikonia: correct, not zsh default
[09:08] <iceroot> ikonia: but a default zsh is boring :)
[09:09] <red2kic> iceroot: so is a default bashrc. ;)
[09:09] <cyberbob> ikonia: I found something that might work in my case . .will share when got that working :D
[09:09] <cyberbob> thx for the help
[09:09] <red2kic> I'd say anything default is boring. we must CUSTOMIZE to our likings. :)
[09:10] <iceroot> red2kic: yes more or less but trust me a tuned zsh is much better then bash (as login-shell)
[09:10] <red2kic> iceroot: Maybe I'll give it a go one day.
[09:10] <iceroot> red2kic: i like to call zsh "compiz for the shell"
[09:10] <red2kic> iceroot: I see.
[09:11] <iceroot> red2kic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3k7jpY5GRQ  have a look at zsh
[09:11] <Chipzzz> ikonia: I've been noticing that shell imports into gnome desktops aren't entirely consistent either ;)
[09:13] <red2kic> iceroot: Very nice. I learned something new! +1
[09:14] <Grav> Is flash broken on Ubuntu? Whenever I see some in browser then It breaks my whole system. And all balck colors show this flash...
[09:14] <Sonne> Grav, might be the video drivers actually - which ones are you using?
[09:16] <Grav> Sonne: in administration/additiona drivers -> nvidia drivers, but what version, etc ther is not shown
[09:16] <Sonne> Grav, so you're using the proprietary drivers aye?
[09:16] <Grav> Sonne: yes
[09:17] <Sonne> if you have time at your hand, you could try disabling them and checking if the problem persists - if it doesn't, at least we know what to blame :)
[09:18] <Grav> It's ubuntu. I'm afraid If I disable it i will get more problems. This systems seems to work this way when they are smallest changes:(
[09:19] <Sonne> Grav, that's not how it's supposed to be, but if you don't feel confident enough i can understand it - what about trying with a different browser then? chrome maybe
[09:20] <Grav> I opened flash in FF, and it breaks black colors in other broswers too
[09:20] <Vancha> do you guys mind repeating what the problem is?
[09:20] <Grav> I will try to disable that drivers
[09:20] <Grav> Whenever I see some in browser then It breaks my whole system. And all balck colors show this flash...
[09:21] <Grav> It looks like flash is baked into my monitor, and all black colors in browsers show it
[09:21] <Sonne> Vancha, whenever grav sees a flash content on his browser, the screen gets messed up
[09:21] <Sonne> as in, the video remains on the screen on other windows as well
[09:21] <Vancha> Sonne: thx
[09:22] <Vancha> messed up like stripes, or freezes :S
[09:24] <tavasti> I try to do 'do-release-upgrade' from 8.04 to 10.04, but it fails with 'Failed to fetch http://fi.archive...ttf-umefont_411-_all.deb Hash Sum mismatch'
[09:24] <Vancha> dont do that in the update manager tavasti, always burn it on cd :o
[09:24] <mushin> In an algorithm, what does :1 mean in the statement, for i = n/2:1, aFunction()
[09:25] <tavasti> Vancha, why?
[09:25] <irong33k> i have a backlight problem on ubuntu, i cant figure out...when idle screen is black, thats o.k..when i press any key to get back to what i was doing..the backlight is sooo dim, i try to adjust with the backlight keys..but it shows the backlight is at full percentage..and its still dim
[09:25] <Vancha> tavasti: the update manager is still bugged, a lot of people experience problems with is while updating to another version of ubuntu. for now its safer to stick to the burnign of a cd or USB
[09:25] <red2kic> tavasti: It is faster and far less errors if you commit to a full clean installation instead of upgrading multiple times.
[09:26] <tavasti> full clean install, and 2 days configuring all software again
[09:26] <Vancha> true that red2kic, and the existing user settings might interfere with the installation after it is finished
[09:26] <Vancha> tavasti you can make a backup
[09:26] <Grav> Sonne: I've disabled them and will try to restart
[09:27] <tavasti> does cd-boot support upgrading, or is it allways fresh install?
[09:28] <Vancha> tavasti: not sure, but i dont think it allows upgrading :S
[09:28] <irong33k> i have a backlight problem on ubuntu, i cant figure out...when idle screen is black, thats o.k..when i press any key to get back to what i was doing..the backlight is sooo dim, i try to adjust with the backlight keys..but it shows the backlight is at full percentage..and its still dim
[09:28] <Vancha> tavasti: the best option i think would be to check for backup software, make a backup. do a fresh install, and use that backup to get your settings back
[09:29] <tavasti> still, chekcing what software I have installed, and installing them, configuring all, quite big mess
[09:29] <tavasti> on upgrade something brokes, on fresh install all is missing
[09:30] <Vancha> yeah sorry about that tavasti :(, its just that i also have bad experiences with the update manager :(
[09:30] <tavasti> I have done dozens of upgrades to servers, and seen various problems
[09:30] <tavasti> but still I prefer that
[09:31] <Vancha> its always worth a try ^^ i dont have any important settings or programs installed on my pc, i just deleted my windows and installed ubuntu yesterday
[09:31] <Vancha> formatted the whole thing
[09:32] <tavasti> I removed windows over 15 years ago
[09:32] <tavasti> (was windows 3.11)
[09:32] <Vancha> haha :) i still have some difficulties playing games in ubuntu, but what version where you using?
[09:32] <alex88> hi guys, is there a distributed file system that can be mounted and read/write like any other without special commands/code for doing that?
[09:33] <tavasti> this was 8.04 server, and trying to upgrade to 10.04
[09:33] <tavasti> first server upgrade, dozens to come
[09:34] <Vancha> good luck tavasti, i cant help with that, just make sure you make that backup :o thats all i can say
[09:35] <tavasti> worst thing can happen is that I have to do fresh install, so I have nothing to loose
[09:35] <tavasti> sure, I have backups
[09:35] <r3dux> What is the offtopic room address, please?
[09:35] <zeroburn> Hay can anybody assit me? Running ubuntu 10.04-64bit on a Gigabyte Q1585 notebook and have several issues. mostly graphic/interface related
[09:35] <ghisen> Hi, ive mounted a  filesystem, when trying to access it in nautilus i get, trap divide error..? Anyone know how to fix this?
[09:36] <tavasti> r3dux, #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:36] <Chipzzz> tavasti: congrats on dumping window$ & gl with the upgrades :)
[09:36] <r3dux> zeroburn - you have several graphic issues, you might have to take them one at a time, we can't fix them all at once
[09:36] <tavasti> Chipzzz, thanks
[09:36] <r3dux> Thanks, tavasti - forgot to bookmark
[09:39] <zeroburn> @r3dux - oki, let me start with the one bugging me most.. Sometimes when i open more than one window, either a program and a folder, 2 folders, or 2 programs and more... The windows stop responding. I can interact with the currently open window, but i cant switch or close any windows, have to alt-F4 to desktop, and SOMETIMES that fixes the problem, till i open a second window
[09:40] <r3dux> zeroburn -  why would you try to run a program and open a folder at the same time? I'm genuinely curious and definitely want to help you get everything sorted and working. I'm just wondering why.
[09:40] <Chipzzz> zeroburn: how much memory u have?
[09:41] <r3dux> zeroburn - OR, are you just saying that when more than one window or program is open it gives you issues and the windows stop responding? I might have misread you there!
[09:41] <iAmTheDave> is there a reason a script in /etc/cron.d wouldn't be executing? i have it in the slightly different format where the user is specified as the second argument, etc.
[09:41] <zeroburn> @redux - eg I open audacity and then my music folder to drag the song into audacity.. then the windows stops responding, or copying a file from one folder to the next (seperate windows, not the split window mode)
[09:41] <zeroburn> @Chipzzz - 2Gig ddr3
[09:42] <r3dux> Ah... that doesn't sound good
[09:42] <red2kic> iAmTheDave: Paste the crontab
[09:42] <coz_> zeroburn,   in terminal      free -m
[09:42] <Chipzzz> zeroburn: what kind of video (ati... nVidia...?)
[09:42] <iAmTheDave> red2kic: http://paste.ubuntu.com/578743/
[09:43] <zeroburn> Total 1999
[09:43] <zeroburn> used 566
[09:43] <zeroburn> Free 1432
[09:43] <zeroburn> Shared 0
[09:43] <red2kic> iAmTheDave: I find it best to write something to ~/Desktop/cron.log -- (or /var/log/randomScriptName.log) so you know the script is running.
[09:43] <FloodBot1> zeroburn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:43] <zeroburn> sorry
[09:43] <coz_> zeroburn,   and this is ubuntu 10.10 ...yes?
[09:43] <iAmTheDave> red2kic: yeah considering /etc/rc.local isn't being set to the permissions i have in the file, i doubt it's being executed at all
[09:43] <Chipzzz> zeroburn: don't mind FloodBod1... he's just a bot
[09:43] <red2kic> iAmTheDave: Put them all in crontab, not a script file?
[09:44] <zeroburn> nope 10.04.. and it just happend again when i opend the webbrowser
[09:44] <iAmTheDave> red2kic: that's a file /etc/cron.d/scriptrunner
[09:44] <coz_> zeroburn,  sudo apt-get install  htop
[09:45] <stylishg33k> Hello room. I'm a new  ubuntu user and I'm having some issues running the Netbook version of Ubuntu 10.10
[09:45] <coz_> zeroburn,  open that  under applications/system tools
[09:45] <Chipzzz> zeroburn: I'm suspicious that you might have video driver problems...
[09:45] <iAmTheDave> red2kic: i'm working on getting rackspace cloud servers to build themselves for me, instead of having to maintain images, so i need something to kick off the build process
[09:45] <coz_> Chipzzz,  that doesnt sound unreasonable for sure
[09:45] <zeroburn> @coz Need to restart laptop first, froze again
[09:45] <coz_> zeroburn,  well  hold on
[09:46] <zeroburn> @chipzz how can i chek this? I haven't installed the NVidia drivers
[09:46] <coz_> zeroburn,  instead    hit  ctrl+alt+F  .... log in   then type   sudo  restart gdm
[09:46] <XoD> zeroburn: sounds like video driver problems. if have the likes on many boxen. only workaround is to disable all visual effect in system->preferences->apperance. try that
[09:46] <stylishg33k> I installed the os through the usb method (I'm running on an Alienware M11x R2) and everything worked great. I used the netbook edition, since I figured for the small size of this laptop, it'd be a better fit. However after I did all the updates (including a Nivida update which I'm thinking is the problem) i get to the tty1 command line
[09:46] <coz_> zeroburn,  if you install htop it will let us k now what is eating up resources
[09:47] <zeroburn> oka wait i wil start at top with the install the htop first
[09:47] <red2kic> iAmTheDave: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto -- Look at logs. First, ensure it run fine. I'm not sure about root -- since it may not ran because of password (permissions).
[09:47] <stylishg33k> I edited the grub with "nomodeset" and I'm able to run ubuntu in the normal desktop safe mode (What I'm in now) but I want to know if I can get back to the netbook edition
[09:47] <iAmTheDave> red2kic: thanks, i'll read
[09:47] <red2kic> iAmTheDave: Add log so you know it ran fine, then you can work from there.
[09:47] <Chipzzz> zeroburn: you could try that with system->administration->hardware drivers... but let cos_ try his theory first... the vid problems could take a while
[09:47] <zeroburn> Oka htop is installed?
[09:48] <coz_> stylishg33k,   this was a clean install ...yes?
[09:48] <coz_> zeroburn,  ok open it
[09:48] <stylishg33k> @coz_ clean install. it's running along side win7 however
[09:48] <zeroburn> @coz, oka its running
[09:48] <coz_> stylishg33k,  ok
[09:48] <red2kic> iAmTheDave: Also, try and do it from root. Get in root, and "crontab- e"
[09:48] <coz_> zeroburn,   ok  you will see the topmost listed item as the most resource intensive at the moment
[09:49] <stylishg33k> I've already tried do the sudo commands related to the xorg.conf files and I tried the gdm commands
[09:49] <zeroburn> @coz_ , in short it is the multiload applet, do you want the entire line?
[09:49] <coz_> zeroburn,   multiload applet?
[09:50] <zeroburn> @coz_, ill type the entire "comand" line
[09:50] <Chipzzz> zeroburn: just the name of the top process is ok
[09:50] <coz_> stylishg33k,  mm ..thinking here
[09:50] <caniis> who speak spanish?
[09:50] <coz_> !ubuntu-es | caniis
[09:51] <SwedeMike> !es | caniis
[09:51] <stylishg33k> @coz take your time, I'm tryin to figure it out too lol
[09:51] <caniis> thanks
[09:51] <caniis> xD
[09:51] <coz_> stylishg33k,   I am trying to remember the command to restart  the netbook ... not sure that   restart gdm is correct
[09:51] <zeroburn> /usr/lib/gnome-applets/multiload-applet-2 --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_MultiloadApplet_factory -- (the rest if off screen)
[09:52] <coz_> zeroburn,  what is the "multiload applet?
[09:52] <zeroburn> @coz _, I dont know? that is the command as it is on the terminal screen
[09:53] <coz_> zeroburn,  well it's likely in the gnome panel there...
[09:53] <stylishg33k> @coz That was something I considered but I wasn't sure what the right command would be.
[09:53] <coz_> zeroburn,   open a terminal and try    killall  multiload-applet-2
[09:54] <coz_> stylishg33k,  did you already try   restart gdm
[09:55] <zeroburn> @coz_, it closed the system monitor applet on my gnome panel (The one at the top with the menus)
[09:55] <stylishg33k> coz, yes I tried that
[09:55] <coz_> zeroburn,  ok   now try opening windows
[09:56] <coz_> stylishg33k,  which video card did you say was onboard there?
[09:56] <zeroburn> coz_ , Nope, just froze again
[09:56] <coz_> zeroburn,  and what is showing up in htop
[09:56] <Chipzzz> stylishg33k: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:56] <zeroburn> coz, the very top line now reads htop
[09:57] <scarleo> How can I make my entries in /etc/fstab mount also when switching user?
[09:57] <coz_> zeroburn,   mmm  ... ok  this is a bit puzzling... tell me...this is a clean install  or did you upgrade ubuntu to a newer version
[09:57] <zeroburn> Coz_ nope this is a clean install
[09:57] <stylishg33k> coz Nivida GT335M Geforce
[09:58] <stylishg33k> @Chipzzz would that restart the netbook gui?
[09:58]  * jfm` is away: Je ne suis pas là
[09:58] <Chipzzz> stylishg33k: yes, it restarts gnome
[09:59] <zeroburn> @Coz_ nope this is a clean install
[09:59] <coz_> stylishg33k,  if that doesnt work try   startx
[09:59] <stylishg33k> Ok I'll go try both. Thanks for the help
[09:59] <scarleo> Or maybe if it's possible to do per user mounting?
[10:00] <Chipzzz> coz_: gnome sits on top of the xserver... startx won't do it
[10:01] <zeroburn> just got a new error when i restarted, if i paste in that adress paste.ubuntu.com, will it be visible here?
[10:01] <Chipzzz> zeroburn: yes
[10:02] <Chipzzz> (post the link)
[10:02] <k_89> o.k.... i installed python 3.2 in home/usr/Python3 via config and make,
[10:02] <k_89> how do i append the path to make it work
[10:02] <k_89> and how can i work on python 2 and 3 simultanoeously
[10:03] <zeroburn> @Chipzz, 578756
[10:03] <tavasti> Vancha, problem solved. Squid had corrupted file(s) in it's cache, runnign do-release-upgrade without cache and upgrade starts to progress
[10:04] <coz_> stylishg33k,    I am puzzled for sure
[10:04] <coz_> zeroburn,  same for you guy ,,, this is puzzling..
[10:05] <jbache_away> anyone into development might find this blog interesting http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/03/10/qml-components-for-desktop/
[10:05] <Chipzzz> zeroburn: the whole url, please, not just the node
[10:06] <zeroburn> @coz_ , I have had this error a little while ago, and reinstalled the 3 things the error says may cause the problem...
[10:06] <zeroburn> @Chipzzz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/578756
[10:07] <Chipzzz> zeroburn: tnx... looking
[10:08] <zeroburn> when i get this error message, my bar with the close, minimize and all that disapears
[10:09] <sagaci> Your bar
[10:09] <user> fds
[10:09] <user> ;
[10:11] <zeroburn> @coz_ , after killing the multi-load-applet, the system seems more stable, it haven't frozen after a few window opens and closes
[10:12] <coz_> zeroburn,  ok  then keep that applet out of the equation
[10:12] <stylishg33k> I'm back guys
[10:13] <stylishg33k> @Chipzzz that command you suggested wasn't recongized
[10:13] <zeroburn> @coz_ will do. Will be testing it out a bit without it and see how it goes, but while I am here there is one last question I have
[10:14] <coz_> zeroburn,  shoot  ...what is it?
[10:15] <Chipzzz> stylishg33k: curious... try "ls /etc/init.d/gdm"
[10:15] <zeroburn> @coz_ when I install the NVidia drivers from the hardware drivers program (system - administration - hardware drivers) it causes my screen to freak out, makes 4 small screens on the display and the max resolotion is the 640 one
[10:16] <zeroburn> 640x350
[10:16] <coz_> zeroburn,  o0 ...
[10:16] <coz_> zeroburn,    in terminal    lspci | grep -i vga
[10:17] <stylishg33k> @Chipzzz it returns that same value so it does exist
[10:17] <stylishg33k> weird
[10:17] <Symmetria> Hrm, can you switch IO Schedulers on the fly or do you need to reboot?
[10:17] <Symmetria> I need to move from deadline to cfq
[10:18] <Chipzzz> stylishg33k: maybe you'd better reboot & it'll restart for sure ;)
[10:18] <coz_> Symmetria,  you got me on that one  ,,, if no one here can answer that at this moment try ##linux
[10:18] <zeroburn-laptop> @coz_ , 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 0caf (rev a2)
[10:18] <darkwingduck_> rm *.*
[10:19] <zeroburn> @coz_ , thats without the drivers installed
[10:19]  * jfm` is back (gone 00:20:31)
[10:19] <coz_> zeroburn,  right
[10:19] <darkwingduck_> that will fix it all
[10:19] <oCean> !afk > jfm`
[10:19] <bazz> i've set up dnsmasq and it works fine for things like dig/nslookup/ping, but other things fail to find addresses, for example links and firefox both can't look anything up now.  any idea what this might be?
[10:20] <coz_> zeroburn,   this is very odd considering the issues you are having,,, did everything go well during install?
[10:21] <Chipzzz> bazz: maybe you have to reset your name servers
[10:21] <bazz> Chipzzz: you mean in /etc/resolv.conf?
[10:21] <zeroburn> @coz_, yes. Had zero errors and nothing raised any problems, should a install the drivers and work from there with you? Because after reading up on the internet about the issue, it came to light the drivers cant read from the laptop's display the supportted ressolutions?
[10:22] <vijay_> hi
[10:22] <oCean> Symmetria: that can be done on the fly: echo 'cfq' > /sys/block/DEV/queue/scheduler (where DEV=sda for example)
[10:22] <Chipzzz> bazz: I was thinking in network manager...
[10:23] <coz_> zeroburn,   not sure,,,you could check in the #nvidia channel to see if they have experience with this particular issue
[10:24] <zeroburn> @coz_ , thanks will do.. :)
[10:24] <scarleo> How can I make my NFSv4 mounts from /etc/fstab auto mount also when switching user? They auto mount only when logging in first time after reboot.
[10:24] <bazz> Chipzzz: nm, i'm an idiot.  i was updating my resolv.conf to have just 127.0.0.1 but also telling dnsmasq to use that
[10:24] <Chipzzz> ;)
[10:25] <bazz> Chipzzz: still not sure why dig/nslookup/ping could find hosts though
[10:26] <hid3> Hello everyone. Is there any release shedule set for 11.04?
[10:26] <sagaci> Yeah there is
[10:27] <DJones> hid3: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule
[10:27] <Chipzzz> bazz: *shrugs* jfm (Just Frigging Magic) ;)
[10:27] <hid3> Thanks!
[10:27] <bazz> :)
[10:28] <hid3> lol, my IRC client crashed when I clicked on the link :D
[10:29] <sagaci> What are you using
[10:29] <hid3> This is a crappy PC running mirc v 6.01 lol
[10:30] <zeroburn> @coz_, they dont reply me :(.. lolz
[10:30] <stylishg33k> @Chipzzz I tried the command again and it returned a message telling me to instead of using it, run the regular gdm restart commant
[10:30] <coz_> zeroburn,  it is going to be way slower in #nvidia than here  so you have to just hang out there
[10:31] <stylishg33k> Maybe I'm just not meant to run netbook edition lol. I may try reinstalling, which won't be that bad I suppose
[10:31] <shruggar> I am looking for an "image viewer" program I can use to just display an image on the screen, and do absolutely nothing else (show an image, have a close button, no other features). Does such a program exist?
[10:31] <Chipzzz> stylishg33k: didn't you try that & find that it didn't work?
[10:31] <zeroburn> Coz_ , lolz oki will hang around a while there
[10:32] <zeroburn> @coz_ btw, how do you send a person-specific message liek you are doing? just type the name ahead of the msg?
[10:32] <shruggar> ah, "display" was what I was looking for
[10:32] <stylishg33k> Chipzzz: I hadn't tried reinstalling, no. If you mean netbook edition, it worked at first but after I restarted due to the updates, it won't load. At first i got the tty1 command line, then when I get past it, I am stuck with a blank desktop
[10:33] <sagaci> Pm's aren't encouraged
[10:33] <coz_> zeroburn,  well first type the first 2 or 3 letters of their name and hit the Tab key to complet it then type your message if it shows the correct  name
[10:34] <zeroburn> coz_: aaah oki thats awsum! lolz tnx
[10:34] <sagaci> Called t
[10:34] <coz_> zeroburn,  there you go
[10:34] <sagaci> Tab complete
[10:35] <coz_> zeroburn,  actually everyone should be using the tab complete name  here otherwise it gets very confusiong
[10:36] <zeroburn> coz_: haha tnx, now i can stop using the @. Wll thanks for the help, need to run now, will see if the NVidia ppl can help me later tonight.
[10:36] <zeroburn> coz_: haha I can imagen, but My pidgin has the plugin installed that stops the server msgs, so I just get the 'person' messages :).. lolz
[10:37] <Chipzzz> stylishg33k: sorry... I thought cos_ had you try "restart gdm" & it didn't work... do you currently boot to a tty command line with no gui?
[10:37] <coz_> zeroburn,  ah ok
[10:38] <royale1223> what is the script used to conneect bluetooth mobile ppp in ubuntu?
[10:38] <Bipul`> Chipzzz,  can i pm you
[10:38] <Chipzzz> Bipul': sure
[10:39] <zeroburn> coz_:  jip, its either ignore, or the IRC more, plugin, cant remember just now. But yea. G2g. Thanks again
[10:39] <royale1223> what is the script used to conneect bluetooth mobile ppp in ubuntu?
[10:39] <royale1223> what is the script used to connect bluetooth mobile ppp in ubuntu?
[10:39] <coz_> zeromobi,  understood :)
[10:40] <zeromobi> you must mean zeroburn but I do like getting random :)
[10:40] <royale1223> what is the script used to connect bluetooth mobile ppp in ubuntu?
[10:40] <Gump> hey #ubuntu, anyone awake? someone just added me on msn and i'm using empathy. can't figure out how in hell to accept their request.
[10:41] <coz_> zeromobi,  sorry guy
[10:41] <coz_> zeromobi,   no problem
[10:41] <zeromobi> :)
[10:41] <coz_> again
[10:41] <coz_> oh he left
[10:41] <coz_> zeromobi,   thats why ,,he left and tab brought you up :)
[10:42] <zeromobi> lol coz, I guess that's one reason against nick tab completion ;)
[10:43] <phrozen> #ubuntu-pl
[10:43] <royale1223> what is the script used to connect bluetooth mobile ppp in ubuntu?
[10:43] <coz_> zeromobi,  for sure :)
[10:43] <Gump> yo, anyone?
[10:43] <royale1223> what is the command used to connect bluetooth mobile ppp in ubuntu?
[10:43] <bazhang> Gump, need help with ubuntu?
[10:43] <Gump> empathy
[10:44] <Gump> someone added me and i can't find an option to accept anywhere
[10:44] <Curly_Q> WARNING <----------------------<   If anyone here didn't know that Japan was hit with a 8.9 Richter Scale Earthquake. Hawaii is ready for a Tsunami as well as Japan. WARNING  <------------< if you live in the Philippines, move to high grounds. This is an EMERGENCY NOTICE! FOX News will show you the videos of Japan. Thousands of homes were destroyed.
[10:44] <bazhang> !ot | Curly_Q
[10:44] <Gump> thanks for the heads up. i'm high and dry in texas and read about it on...digg...hours ago
[10:45] <Gump> so...i take it no one uses empathy?
[10:45] <zeromobi> if you're trying to convince someone of something, fox news is not what you should be mentioning.....
[10:45] <royale1223> what is the command used to connect bluetooth mobile ppp?
[10:45] <Chipzzz> Thanks Curly_Q... the real news channels are carrying it too
[10:45] <Gump> hahaha "real news channels"
[10:45] <Curly_Q> OK. I didn't know. Lots of people use the computer and never watch the news.
[10:45] <Gump> fox news is entertainment. it can't get into canada apparently because fabricating the truth is illegal up there
[10:45] <bazhang> Curly_Q, dont spam here
[10:46] <Chipzzz> Gump: sorry, I couldn't help myself ;)
[10:46] <Curly_Q> No one is spamming.
[10:46] <Atharva> how to access shared folder from ubuntu of ubuntu?
[10:46] <Gump> Atharva, ...wat
[10:46] <acicula> Atharva: network browser or connect to server
[10:46] <zeromobi> gump http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-728181%5D-%5Bnew%5D-accept-msn-contact-request-empathy-fails-110007/
[10:46] <royale1223> what is the command used to connect bluetooth mobile ppp?
[10:46] <Curly_Q> A warning is not spam.
[10:46] <acicula> royale1223: its handled by modemmanager
[10:46] <Atharva> i want to access shared folder via lan
[10:47] <Gump> zeromobo thx mang
[10:47] <bazhang> Curly_Q, it has zero to do with ubuntu support.
[10:47] <zeromobi> sign out and back in again and the request should appear.... according to that page
[10:47] <bullgard> Atharva: Use Samba or NFS
[10:47] <Atharva> i have it but i am unable to operate it
[10:47] <royale1223> acicula: how do i run if from terminal?
[10:47] <Curly_Q> Bazhang, you are a cruel and heartless person. I don't care about your opinion. I came here to announce to my friends an emergency.
[10:47] <acicula> royale1223: dunno have a google for ppp and modemmanager?
[10:47] <yeahyeahyeah> Gump, MSN is being funky for me too, on Empathy and Pidign
[10:48] <royale1223> acicula: thanks
[10:48] <Gump> yeah, the request came in but I CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO ACCEPT THE DAMN THING
[10:48]  * Gump RAGEQUITS
[10:48] <hugo___> hihi!
[10:48] <Atharva> @ bullgard : pl hepl
[10:48] <yeahyeahyeah> Gump, try Pidgin, it seems to be less affected for me
[10:49] <hugo___> im using ubuntu 10.10 and in mouse options i have ticked in "disable touchpad while typing" but how can i increase the timeout on this one? the touchpad gets put on a bit to fast
[10:49] <iAmTheDave> i have a file, /etc/cron.d/runthis that is put there by a server build process - it won't run until i open it in nano and save it again. then all is well. any idea why this might be?
[10:49] <zeromobi> gump post #3 says: 1. Turn off all accounts except the account to accept requests with. 2. Restart Empathy. 3. Accept requests. 4. Restart Empathy again.
[10:50] <Gump> hugo___, i don't think you can. why would you want that option anyway? all it ever did was mess my mouse up in games
[10:50] <zeromobi> hopefully if you do that a reuqest popup will appear, i don't use empathy but something should happen
[10:50] <hugo___> Gump: i dont play any games, mostly type. and on my new pc, i very easlily touch the mousepad while typing spacebar... so the mouse may shift windows or even paragraphs when typing.
[10:51] <Gump> heh. i figured it out. only way to accept is by clicking the icon on the gnome bar. problem solved
[10:51] <Gump> hugo___, sucks...you might try looking for a third party utility. i don't think ubuntu can set a time limit
[10:51] <Gump> the process that controls it is called syndaemon, if that's any help starting your search
[10:52] <hugo___> i mean, what script file is setting the disabling in the options? why not just ad a wait 1sec before it gets put on
[10:52] <hugo___> oki
[10:52] <hugo___> il check that
[10:52] <hugo___> Gump: thanks
[10:53] <Gump> IT DIDN'T WORK.
[10:53]  * Gump CLICKS ACCEPT REQUEST. REQUEST DOESN'T GET PROCESSED. RAGEQUITS FOREVER.
[10:53] <hugo___> Gump: seems to be this easy: $ syndaemon -i intTIME -d
[10:53] <Gump> welp, i give up. i choose pidgey!
[10:53] <hugo___> $ syndaemon -i 4 -d
[10:54] <Gump> hugo___, epic. no way i could have figured that out lol
[10:54] <hugo___> :D
[10:55] <hugo___> bear in mind, you have to killall syndaemon before changeing settings
[10:55] <r3dux> Gump - what did you figure out? I'm looking and thinking and looking and thinking...
[10:55] <dr_Willis> i i think you can send sysdaemon some sort of hup command to make it reload its configs
[10:55] <Gump> i switched over to pidgen and it worked perfectly first try
[10:56] <Gump> pidgey used ADD CONTACT. IT'S SUPER EFFECTIVE
[10:56] <r3dux> I know that a HUP will try to renice a process... but not much else
[10:57] <r3dux> Blind Melon - 3 is the Magic Number :)
[10:58] <jiltdil> i am simply able to use ssh in lan but in wan how to do this ?
[10:59] <harisund> Is there anyway to get Ubuntu-10.10 to identify the latest version of iOS? I have a jailbroken iPod Touch with 4.2.1
[11:02] <dirtydevil> hey, Webcam is not working even after using LD_PRELOAD="/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2convert.so" cheese , can anybody help me?
[11:05] <yavuz> hell
[11:05] <yavuz> o
[11:05] <yavuz> 35 male here
[11:06] <yavuz> any woman in here?
[11:06] <dr_Willis> no females at all
[11:06] <bazhang> yavuz, wrong place to ask. just stop
[11:06] <yavuz> ok
[11:06] <yavuz> bye
[11:07] <hrw> hi
[11:07] <hrw> is there a way to change keyboard shortcuts in evolution?
[11:08] <dirtydevil> hey I am having a problem in installing 10.10
[11:08] <dirtydevil> can anybody help me?
[11:08] <dr_Willis> and the problem is ?
[11:08] <dirtydevil> http://paste.ubuntu.com/578774/
[11:09] <dirtydevil> I am getting this whenever I am inserting disc
[11:09] <x404x> can i setup sabnzbd to always download all par files for something ? usually it only downloads enough to complete an archive
[11:09] <dr_Willis> give a summary... not everyone can open a browser
[11:09] <bazhang> !here
[11:10] <dirtydevil> process:357: GLib-WARNING ** : getpwuid_r() : failed due to unknown_userid(0)
[11:10] <dirtydevil> this is the problem
[11:10] <dirtydevil> Whenever I am inserting disc for installation this line popped up and process stops
[11:10] <dirtydevil> :(
[11:10] <bazhang> md5 the iso dirtydevil
[11:11] <dr_Willis> You are  Booting the iso file? or are you just inserting it while running windows?
[11:12] <dirtydevil> bazhang: 59d15a16ce90c8ee97fa7c211b7673a8  this is the output
[11:12] <r3dux> Whenever I put TOAST in drive PC says to me "You have inserted TOAST in drive. Why? Why? You make President Putin CRY by placing toast in drive."
[11:12] <r3dux> I feel bad, but is there anyway to fix it?
[11:12] <bazhang> r3dux, not the place
[11:12] <r3dux> sorry
[11:12] <kothaguy_ubuntu> hi friends,i downloaded cheese latest version,it is in tar.gz format,i etracted it,i don't know how to compile it,can any one tell me the command how to compile it?
[11:12] <dirtydevil> I have 10.04 and I want to install 10.10 so inserted a bootable CD burned from the downloaded iso from Ubuntu's website
[11:13] <dr_Willis> kothaguy_ubuntu:  there may be ppa repos with updated versions.. much easier to use then trying to compile.
[11:13] <bazhang> dirtydevil, you are trying to use the live cd as an upgrade tool?
[11:13] <kothaguy_ubuntu> dr_Willis, :how to get the ppa repos?
[11:14] <dr_Willis> dirtydevil:  so you are trying to upgrade  from a newer desktop cd? im not sure thats possible.
[11:14] <dr_Willis> !ppa
[11:14] <bazhang> dirtydevil, you need the alternate for that
[11:14] <dirtydevil> Actually I want a fresh install
[11:15] <manufort> bjr je suis sur ubuntu et je voudrais redimentionner la partition / comment faire svp
[11:15] <dr_Willis> then boot the cd..  insert it.. rboot.. do the install
[11:15] <jpds> !fr | manufort
[11:15] <dirtydevil> hmm I am doing that but this error is popping up every time
[11:15] <dr_Willis> backup inporntant data first of course.
[11:15] <bazhang> manufort, use gparted
[11:15] <kothaguy_ubuntu> dr_Willis, :the main reason why i downloaded latest unstable version is,i can take photos in my cheese cam,but i cant record any video,just when i click on record,it freezes out,and i have to do force quit,every time
[11:15] <manufort> it's not possible with this
[11:16] <dr_Willis> dirtydevil:  so you get an error when you BOOT the cd then? thats not what you said earlier. Its possible the cd burnt badly. You could make a bootable flash drive.
[11:16] <dirtydevil> I googled it but found it a common bug but can't find any alternative or escape of this
[11:16] <bazhang> manufort, why not
[11:16] <dirtydevil> ok, then probably I should try to boot it again by using a flash drive, may be this will work
[11:16] <Bahman> Anybody knows a way to minimise IRC chats to tray in Empathy?
[11:17] <Chipzzz> dirtydevil: why not do a sudo dist-upgrade ?
[11:17] <dirtydevil> by the way , I am also having a problem with my webcam
[11:17] <dirtydevil> my webcam is not working in 10.04 so I was about to reinstall it but as a thought I tried 10.10
[11:18] <Ycarene> Wow, pulseaudio is like putting a boat anchor on your system performance.
[11:18] <bazhang> Chipzzz, you mean upgrade, dist-upgrade does not do that
[11:18] <qmx_> Hello
[11:18] <dirtydevil> on launching cheese , I am getting this http://paste.ubuntu.com/578784/
[11:19] <Chipzzz> bazhang: sorry, you're right
[11:21] <dirtydevil> bazhang,  dr_Willis : can you help me in this?
[11:21] <dr_Willis> in what exactly dirtydevil?
[11:21] <bazhang> dirtydevil, is it a supported webcam?
[11:22] <dirtydevil> on launching cheese , I am getting this http://paste.ubuntu.com/578784/
[11:22] <dirtydevil> ya
[11:22] <kothaguy_ubuntu> me to waiting for dr_wills response on my cheese webcam
[11:22] <dr_Willis> I dont have a browser to look at web sites right now.
[11:22] <dirtydevil> I am using Dell Inspiron 1525
[11:22] <dr_Willis> and im at work. so am also doing other things.
[11:22] <dirtydevil> ok, its saying libv4l2: error setting pixformat: Device or resource busy, Segmentation fault
[11:23] <vlt> Hello. I installed "hugin" but when I run it I get "segmentation fault" after closing the "tip of the day" popup. Any idea what to do?
[11:23] <dr_Willis> i would have to suggest googling for that exact error message
[11:23] <vlt> ... (on LTS)
[11:23] <erUSUL> !debug
[11:23] <dirtydevil> dr_Willis:  I tried almost all the things :(
[11:24] <dirtydevil> LD_PRELOAD="/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2convert.so" cheese too
[11:26] <enterneo> I am running jaunty, I need a package from marverick, is it possible to include PPA for marverick in jaunty to install this package?
[11:27] <erUSUL> enterneo: no; see if the ppa has support for jaunty
[11:27] <erUSUL> enterneo: you should upgrade anyway...
[11:27] <erUSUL> !jaunty
[11:27] <dirtydevil> !upgrade
[11:27] <erUSUL> jaunty is alrady eoled; upgrade to 10.04 which is a LTS release with extended support
[11:27] <erUSUL> enterneo: ^
[11:28] <dr_Willis> or try compiling from source.
[11:29] <Chipzzz> dr_willis: I was thinking that too...
[11:29] <dr_Willis> i suggest upgradeing..
[11:30] <Chipzzz> ... and then compiling from source
[11:30] <Chipzzz> (?)
[11:31] <enterneo> erUSUL: I know, this is not my laptop, I am just using it
[11:32] <enterneo> the PPA has support for jaunty but the version is lower than what I require
[11:32] <bazhang> enterneo, whats the package/ppa
[11:35] <enterneo> gpsd
[11:35] <tuxinator> hi all
[11:35] <enterneo> 2.38 is available for jaunty
[11:35] <enterneo> i need 2.90+
[11:35] <enterneo> now I thinking to install from source maybe
[11:35] <dr_Willis> time to upgrade. or learn to compile...
[11:36] <bazhang> enterneo, then upgrade to a supported version
[11:36] <dr_Willis> since an older version is in the repos.. that makes it easier
[11:36] <tuxinator> can anybody tell me how the hell to enable network interface statistics monitoring in snmpd in ubuntu? could really not find any information on that
[11:36] <tuxinator> nor on manpages nor elsewhere
[11:36] <dr_Willis> sudo apt-get build-dep PACKAGENAME to pul in needed deps.
[11:36] <xoxinfeiyang> zheshinaliya
[11:36] <bazhang> xoxinfeiyang, #ubuntu-cn for chinese
[11:36] <xoxinfeiyang> where is it?
[11:37] <bazhang> xoxinfeiyang, /join #ubuntu-cn
[11:37] <bazhang> enterneo, its 2.94 on 10.10
[11:37] <enterneo> dr_Willis: do you mean I can install the old dependencies using apt-get and install the package from source?
[11:37] <enterneo> bazhang: yeah
[11:37] <dr_Willis> yes. thats what build-dep does..
[11:38] <enterneo> nice
[11:38] <enterneo> ./configure suceeded
[11:38] <enterneo> running make
[11:38] <xoxinfeiyang> who  can tell me?
[11:38] <dr_Willis> but the newer versions MAY need newer versions of some of he deps
[11:38] <bazhang> xoxinfeiyang, tell you what
[11:38] <bazhang> xoxinfeiyang, this is Ubuntu support
[11:38] <xoxinfeiyang> I'm from chinese
[11:39] <bazhang> xoxinfeiyang, yes, #ubuntu-cn for chinese support of ubuntu
[11:39] <Chipzzz> xoxinfeiyang: welcome :)
[11:41] <enterneo> okay build succeeded, but aaargh
[11:42] <enterneo> actually I am trying to build a ros node, which wants gpsd v2.90+ ; so I removed gpsd using apt-get and compiled 2.95 from source
[11:43] <enterneo> now when I am building my ros node; it cannot find gpsd and does a apt-get install gpsd by itself
[11:43] <enterneo> and installs 2.38 and then complains it needs 2.90
[11:43] <enterneo> how can I make my compiled from source gpsd v2.90+ globally available so that my ros build can find it
[11:44] <dr_Willis> sounds like the ROS installer is sort of messed up.
[11:44] <xoxinfeiyang> thank you
[11:44] <dr_Willis> you could som ehow have the compiled version generate a deb.  and install that.
[11:45] <dr_Willis> bye all.. time to head out.
[11:46] <Chipzzz> bye dr_willis & tnx
[11:47] <enterneo> would putting my compiled from source gpsd to PATH help?
[11:47] <Jerkman> hi
[11:49] <functor> So anyone know the option in OpenSSH to enable bindind remote-forwarding so that non-localhost can see it?
[11:50] <greppy> functor: it should be in the man page.
[11:50] <functor> I dont even know what its called, I am in the man page greppy
[11:51] <madfox> functor, shouldnt you be asking that in an OpenSSH channel/forum/tut?
[11:51] <functor> madfox: its disabled by default on ubuntu specifically, and I already did
[11:52] <madfox> functor, well if it's something disabled then it's probably a configuration page rather than an "option"
[11:53] <functor> madfox: i have no idea where it is, it was referenced in the "putty" documentation as: (in OpenSSH, for example, it's usually disabled by default).
[11:53] <functor> depends on the distro etc
[11:54] <functor> Could be.. GatewayPorts
[11:55] <StepNjump> guys I am trying to create a shortcut using a web shortcut on my desktop, how can i do that?
[11:56] <elHannos> Hi! Is it possible to find out the package that has installed a specific file in the filesystem. Like 'equery belongs' does for gentoo?
[11:57] <erUSUL> elHannos: dpkg -S /path/to/file
[11:57] <th0r> StepNjump: create a shortcut for firefox or chrome, then edit the shortcut to add the url
[11:58] <elHannos> erUSUL: Thank you!
[11:58] <StepNjump> Yes but I want it on my desktop th0r
[11:58] <erUSUL> elHannos: no problem
[11:58] <th0r> StepNjump: so put the shortcut on the desktop
[11:58] <fmax30> i am using TL WN321G for wireless, is there any applet for configureing it?
[11:59] <StepNjump> Ok yes I guess I could do that. I have this program in windoze that allows me to simply right away create it to the desktop. But that's an idea. Thanks
[11:59] <fmax30> using bunutu 10.10
[11:59] <fmax30> *ubuntu
[12:00] <erUSUL> fmax30: the network manager icon in the righ top corner
[12:01] <fmax30> erUSUL: in their it is called RALINK 54M usb ... and also how can i use it as an softap there.
[12:02] <xstation> i have had some success installing apache2 the server with https and www but now I find that I do not have permission to view Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server-what did I do wrong?
[12:02] <Repgahroll> hello guys. I've downloaded a script from registry.gimp.org (python source) and i can't install it... i've tried to put it in the 'plug-ins' and 'scripts' folder but gimp won't load it. :( can someone help please?
[12:03] <Repgahroll> gimp2.6.10 from reppos
[12:04] <root_> hello
[12:04] <enterneo> how about adding marverick repos in jaunty? will it work?
[12:06] <Repgahroll> enterneo, yes. it will work. you may be forced to install/update many dependencies together with any package though.
[12:06] <enterneo> oh !
[12:07] <erUSUL> fmax30: with network manager you can create an "ad hoc" network. for hotap you need to configure hostapd iirc
[12:07] <erUSUL> !wifi | fmax30
[12:07] <monk> anyone here setup an apt-cacher?
[12:08] <paraih> What's the music player(s) of choice these days on linux/ubuntu?  I'm slowly moving away from windoz...
[12:08] <elFidel> clementine
[12:08] <elFidel> paraih:
[12:08] <elFidel> available for osx,windows & linux - based on amarok 1.4
[12:08] <bazhang> !players | paraih choose one
[12:12] <enterneo> Repgahroll: but wouldn't maverick package then conflict with package from jaunty
[12:12] <NotTooDumb3> can anyone tell me how to solve this problem? fatal: Unable to create '.git/index.lock': Permission denied refusing to pull with rebase: your working tree is not up-to-date  i went as root and gave chown 775 -R . but again as normal user still i get that error
[12:13] <elias_> oi
[12:13] <enterneo> Repgahroll: suppose I want to install X, available in both jaunty and maverick with same name (but different version)
[12:13] <enterneo> how would apt-get install know which to install?
[12:13] <Repgahroll> enterneo, no. apt will automatically resolves conflicts or will not allow the installation
[12:13] <erUSUL> NotTooDumb3: maybe you are in the middle of a rebase? ask in #git
[12:15] <Repgahroll> enterneo, unless you send some force parameter, which is highly discouraged because this way you may break something.
[12:16] <Repgahroll> enterneo, to update X however, you will need to update some serious amount of dependencies.
[12:16] <elias_> how can i install intell graphc driver on ubuntu 10.1?
[12:16] <BlackDragonTechy> If you have a intel graphic chip it should be covered in the auto updates.
[12:16] <Repgahroll> elias_, most modern intel chipsets are automatically installed.
[12:17] <Repgahroll> elias_, what is the problem? low resolution?
[12:17] <enterneo> Repgahroll: no I just need to install gpsd from universe
[12:17] <enterneo> Repgahroll: the version in jaunty is lower than what I need
[12:17] <Repgahroll> enterneo, so just install it. are you using synaptic?
[12:17] <enterneo> apt-get
[12:17] <GaLAXY_XZ> Hello, iḿ having quite an annoying problem in my chroot; when trying to start dbus by any means I get 'unknown job'.. upgrading dbus did not seem to help
[12:18] <DenisMcMahon> I just switched my 10 Mbit NIC out of the other machine and installed a 100 Mbit NIC. Link lights indicate hardware is working. lspci shows the hardware is present. However, it's not appearing as eth0. possibly I need to load a module? or need to configure something? but I don't know what. Any suggestions please.
[12:18] <enterneo> Repgahroll: so you suggest, I add maverick' universe repo and then install the newer version?
[12:18] <BlackDragonTechy> I would use aptitude
[12:18] <Repgahroll> enterneo, it is secure. as far as you are not sending any advanced parameter.
[12:18] <DasEi> DenisMcMahon: prbly eth1 now, ; connected by dhcp ?
[12:18] <GaLAXY_XZ> I just need to do some visual checks whilst remastering 10.10ś iso ;p
[12:18] <DenisMcMahon> not dhcp, no
[12:19] <Repgahroll> enterneo, apt will take care of any dependency. if not possible it will not allow you to install
[12:19] <elias_> well i cant play games very well on linux
[12:19] <DasEi> DenisMcMahon: ifconfig says ?
[12:19] <enterneo> Repgahroll: let me try :)
[12:19] <BlackDragonTechy> Intel Graphic Chips are not known for their gaming capability.
[12:19] <DenisMcMahon> ifconfig only shows lo
[12:20] <Repgahroll> BlackDragonTechy, yes, that is a fact elias_ .
[12:20] <elias_> my desktop have  Nvidia and i can play wow very good with wine
[12:20] <BlackDragonTechy> Yes, that's because you have a graphic card.
[12:20] <BlackDragonTechy> Not a chip.'
[12:20] <BlackDragonTechy> Apples and Oranges.
[12:20] <Repgahroll> and intel vgas have bad performance on linux compared to windows (proprietary drivers and directx)
[12:21] <elias_> k
[12:21] <DasEi> DenisMcMahon: then manually go by ifup, if eth0 doesn't work (old mac) then try eth1(and please put nick, or I loose messages)
[12:21] <BlackDragonTechy> The purpose of a intel graphic chip is primarly to provide a desktop experience not a gaming one.
[12:21] <DenisMcMahon> sorry dasei
[12:22] <DenisMcMahon> dasei ifup -a / eth0 error while getting interface flags: no such device
[12:22] <Repgahroll> elias_, just for curiosity, what is the game that you are trying to play?
[12:23] <Guest90826> while trying to install many applications from the "Software Centre", it gives an error named "Requires installation of untrusted packages"... But, I want to install applications from the Software Centre
[12:24] <DasEi> DenisMcMahon: gksudo gedit  /etc/network/interfaces
[12:25] <DenisMcMahon> dasei auto eth0 / iface eth0 inet static / address / netmask / gateway
[12:25] <xstation> i have had some success installing apache2 the server with https and www but now I find that I do not have permission to view Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server-what dmight have I done wrong?
[12:25] <DasEi> DenisMcMahon: match to your desired ip : http://pastebin.com/afDdbcbz
[12:26] <DenisMcMahon> dasei old if was 8209, new if is 8139, is it possible I need to do something to get kernel to talk to new h/w
[12:26] <elias_> Windsurfing mmx, this game worked perfect with windows xp on this laptop
[12:27] <elias_> i tryed to open Wow too , but it have low fps
[12:27] <DenisMcMahon> dasei ifup gives SIOCSIFADDR no such device  as first error
[12:27] <DasEi> DenisMcMahon: configure Interfaces properly, if lspci see's card, unlikely a module problem
[12:28] <DasEi> DenisMcMahon: also lo is mentioned there, I hope
[12:28] <DasEi> DenisMcMahon: when done, sudo ifup -a  should do it
[12:28] <yulapshun> << /nick yulapshun >>
[12:29] <DenisMcMahon> dasei my /etc/network/interfaces matches the pastebin except for the ip addresses
[12:29] <DasEi> DenisMcMahon: with an lo section above, fine : sudo service networking restart
[12:29] <DenisMcMahon> dasei which are address 192.168.1.10  and gateway 192.168.1.254
[12:30] <DasEi> DenisMcMahon: sounds plausible
[12:30] <DenisMcMahon> dasei restart: unknown instance
[12:30] <DasEi> DenisMcMahon:  sudo service networking start
[12:31] <DenisMcMahon> dasei "networking stop waiting" but if "service networking stop" then "stop: unknown instance" ... reboot?
[12:32] <DasEi> DenisMcMahon: tried connecting in running service ?
[12:33] <DenisMcMahon> dasei how do I do that?
[12:33] <DasEi> DenisMcMahon: start service as above, try to connect
[12:34] <DenisMcMahon> dasei when you say try to connect, you mean eg telnet / ping?
[12:34] <DasEi> DenisMcMahon: ping router, f.e.  or use browser
[12:36] <tuxinator> can anybody tell me how the hell to enable network interface statistics monitoring in snmpd in ubuntu? could really not find any information on that
[12:36] <guampa> tuxinator: maybe #ubuntu-server
[12:36] <Tuxiscool> Hi. I've installed XP under VirtualBox on a 10.10 host, but XP is unable to connect to the net. I've tried setting up combinations of: a virtual adapter using NAT, a virtual adapter using "Bridged Adapter", and two virtual adapters, one of each. The devices always show up in the windows settings as not being configured (drivers not installed). Any ideas?
[12:36] <DenisMcMahon> dasei no indication of any running services
[12:37] <tuxinator> guampa: thank you
[12:37] <DasEi> Tuxiscool: wrong chan here, but use another virtual interfaces (intel)
[12:37] <DasEi> DenisMcMahon: can you ping your router ?
[12:38] <DenisMcMahon> dasei yes
[12:38] <DasEi> DenisMcMahon: ah
[12:38] <DenisMcMahon> dasei from this pc yes, not from other one
[12:38] <DasEi> DenisMcMahon: hehe
[12:38] <Repgahroll> if anyone is interested, my problem is solved; it was necessary to chmod+x the scripts :)
[12:38] <Tuxiscool> DasEi: Can you tell me the right channel? & It's currently using one of the Intel interfaces... i'll try some others.
[12:39] <DenisMcMahon> dasei but I seem to have some confused network hardware on this pc too - rebooting
[12:39] <DasEi> Tuxiscool: vbox
[12:39] <DasEi> 'vbox*
[12:39] <lorraine> hi all
[12:40] <john123> hello
[12:40] <lorraine> hi john
[12:40] <john123> I need to set up a streaming server in ubuntu, but I need to get the video from the webcam of another host
[12:40] <john123> is there any software to do that?
[12:41] <Anomynous> hi
[12:41] <lorraine> i am also having problems with my webcam in empathey and skype, and would b very greatful if some1 could help me out
[12:42] <Abhijit> john123, maybe try mythbuntu or boxee
[12:42] <Abhijit> i mean mythtv
[12:42] <Anomynous> does anybody know the game Eternal-Lands
[12:42] <Repgahroll> Anomynous, yes. it is an opensource mmorpg.
[12:43] <Anomynous> is it worth trying out ?
[12:43] <Kruptein> omg I'm feeling like a total retard :D  how is the system called again that runs programs at a certain time interval? :D
[12:43] <Kruptein> I just can't remember it anymore
[12:43] <Pumpkin-> cron
[12:43] <Kruptein> thank you :D
[12:43]  * Kruptein slaps himself
[12:44] <Pumpkin-> we all do it :)
[12:44] <john123> Abhijit: thanks i will
[12:44] <DasEi> john123: motion let's you do, that too
[12:45] <DenisMcMahon> dasei ok, now problem machine has an eth1
[12:45] <Anomynous> is it possible to compile c-files with SciTE ?
[12:45] <th0r> Anomynous: no, you compile them with gcc
[12:45] <DasEi> DenisMcMahon: so use it in interfaces and be done
[12:45] <DenisMcMahon> dasei yes, I don't know why but after rebooting both machines together it came up ok
[12:45] <lorraine> is there a software that i can use to get my webcam working in empathy and skype?
[12:46] <DasEi> john123: motion is quite easy to setup, one config file only, no gui,
[12:46] <th0r> Anomynous: no pm's please...ask here
[12:46] <bunjee> new to ubuntu - where is a desktop calendar?.....anyone?
[12:46] <john123> DasEi: with thatt application, can I stream video?
[12:47] <DasEi> DenisMcMahon: arpwatcch ? idk, something around mac-ethX I assume
[12:47] <john123> with a URL
[12:47] <DasEi> john123: yes, brings an own 'lil server
[12:47] <john123> DasEi: sounds great, and if I need to get the video from another host?
[12:48] <DasEi> john123: this is what the server is for
[12:48] <CoNFuS3D> hey, when I installed unity, the option to change desktops disappeared.... stuck on KDE now, and can't change.... any ideas what happened?
[12:48] <Anomynous> th0r: oh ok
[12:48] <mandeep> Umm. I have dual boot questions [Win7 and Ubuntu 10.10]
[12:48] <mandeep> can anyone help me on that?
[12:48] <Anomynous> so why is there a compile function in the tool menu in SciTE?
[12:48] <Repgahroll> Anomynous, well. it can't be compared to wow... it demands too much time also, and there are some cheaters also (they are banned as soon as reported). if you're a hardcore gamer, you will be disappointed, but if you're not that hardcore, then you should try it imho.
[12:48] <Repgahroll> WoW*
[12:48] <DasEi> john123: on local, where the cam is you use vlc or such to view the record, on remote the url
[12:49] <kobra> 8-)
[12:49] <th0r> Anomynous: scite is a text editor. It has been designed to link to gcc and other things to produce a programmers environment, but scite itself is an editor
[12:49] <Anomynous> Repgahroll, thanks :)
[12:49] <DasEi> mandeep: ask..
[12:50] <mandeep> thanks DasEi. I have dual boot with Win7 but now since Win7 is not booting, I have to install it again
[12:50] <DasEi> mandeep: one hd ?
[12:50] <mandeep> but I know it will overwrite GRUB . So how do I install GRUB after re install of windows
[12:50] <mandeep> yeah
[12:51] <obscurant1st> is there any application by which we can lock an external harddrive?
[12:51] <DasEi> mandeep: you first install win, then grub in the latter mostly finds win7, else run os-prober, whole story of current install ?
[12:51] <obscurant1st> i dont need encryption, its just that no one shouldnt be able to open the drive at all!
[12:52] <mandeep> means i'll have to re-install Ubuntu as well?
[12:52] <DenisMcMahon> dasei ah ... basic problem was in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[12:52] <DasEi> mandeep:  whole story of current install ?
[12:53] <Anomynous> ok thank you th0r, I'll have to use GCC then
[12:53] <mandeep> whole story - 160 GB HDD - 4 partitions , 15 GB Win7 [for Games], 20 GB for Ubuntu [Work], 8 GB for Swap, rest for data
[12:53] <mandeep> did win7 first, then ubuntu automatically took dual boot
[12:54] <classical_> how can i view memory amount in Mb instead of kb in top ?
[12:54] <DasEi> DenisMcMahon: old mac i guess
[12:54] <john123> DasEi: Thanks sounds it is what i am looking for, is there any offical webpage?
[12:54] <DenisMcMahon> dasei yes .... I suspect deleting the file and rebooting would have solved it
[12:55] <lorraine> i have the webcam working now in empathy, and they can see me, but i cant see them???? any help plss
[12:55] <mandeep> DasEi, Win7 is NTFS, Ubuntu is EXT4, Swap is swap and Data is NTFS
[12:55] <DasEi> DenisMcMahon: yes, unless other setttings needed wouldn't suffer
[12:56] <DasEi> mandeep: no, I wanted to know in which way you installed, first win, then ubu, now win is gone ?
[12:57] <mandeep> DasEi, win7 --> Ubuntu. It was working sweetly till i mistakely deleted system32 folder of win7 from Ubuntu. Now it wont boot up [ i get BSOD]
[12:57] <bunjee> I am using 10.10 - where is a desktop calendar?...please?
[12:57] <mandeep> bunjee, i think you mean evolution?
[12:57] <elFidel> bunjee: i guess many users to use cals integrated in email-clients
[12:57] <root_> 你好
[12:58] <ilokas> Is there a way to let ubuntu check itself? I let bastille do some changes, maybe fixed everything but am not sure if everything is correct now
[12:58] <elFidel> ilokas: check what?
[12:58] <DasEi> mandeep: ah, I see , so that's a question for ##windows then, easiest to repair that than, else you would : backup current mbr, install win again, re-back current mbr
[12:58] <elFidel> check if each single config file is correct? based on what?
[12:59] <ghostzali> server students.ittelkom.ac.id:6667
[12:59] <mandeep> DasEi, thanks for info. Now I will try to get backup of GRUB :D
[12:59] <GaLAXY_XZ> :/ I continue to get selinux errors when trying to start dbus in an ubuntu 10.10 chroot.. anybody has an idea? "Failed to open /etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/dbus-contexts File doesnt exist
[12:59] <GaLAXY_XZ> I don t even have any selinux policies set
[12:59] <john123> DasEi: I dont think motion allow me to get the video from a remote host
[13:00] <mandeep> Thanks once again for info, DasEi
[13:01] <DasEi> mandeep: sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=~/Desktop/mbrBA count=1  bs=512
[13:02] <DasEi> john123: why ?
[13:02] <yeahyeahyeah> !empathy
[13:02] <yeahyeahyeah> what's the irc for empathy?
[13:02] <john123> DasEi: it is not in the features list http://www.lavrsen.dk/foswiki/bin/view/Motion/MotionFeatureList
[13:02] <yeahyeahyeah> *channel
[13:02] <DenisMcMahon> dasei yeah, editing /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules (delete old eth0, rename new eth1 to eth0) and /etc/network/interfaces (change rules that were changed to eth1 back to eth0) and reboot and it is now up as eth0 and all services running normally
[13:03] <DasEi> john123: I already used it , so I  know it works, it has an http-server via apache
[13:03] <john123> DasEi: oks thanks
[13:03] <yeahyeahyeah> nvm got it
[13:03] <GaLAXY_XZ> This is really annoying :/ i just cant get dbus to start in my chroot
[13:03] <DasEi> DenisMcMahon: good netting then :)
[13:04] <DenisMcMahon> dasei indeed an ty for all your help :):):):):)
[13:04] <GaLAXY_XZ> quite clueless why im getting failed to open selinux context error in my chroot as i have /proc mounted
[13:05] <pauru> Hi all
[13:06] <lisandros> hi got a  problem with ubundu 10.10 and pc acer:aspire 5672wlmi it probably doesnt recognise  some drivers
[13:06] <doodoo> i have a laptop with ATI card. can i run natty on it?
[13:06] <Andy-at-home> is anyone familiar with Hypervm and can give me some help on using the DNS feature?
[13:06] <cx42net> Hello!
[13:06] <DasEi> doodoo: I think so
[13:06] <lisandros> h
[13:07] <DasEi> doodoo: simply try a live usb (or cd)
[13:07] <cx42net> When I boot my computer, I can see that my raid status is critical but it's too fast I can't read what the problem is. If I goes in the configuration manager, there is no indication of what the problem could be, is there a command line or an application that could show me the state of the raid please ?
[13:08] <bullgard> Why is there a line in /etc/passwd,  which starts with "man"? Why does the program man to identify itself at the system and possibly authenticate?
[13:08] <DasEi> cx42net: softraid mirror ?
[13:08] <doodoo> ok
[13:08] <Kruptein> hm odd,  I have this in my personal crontab  * * * * * /usr/bin/deditor     but the program never runs,   its' the only line in the crontab   so am I doing something wrong?
[13:09] <DasEi> doodoo: else there also is new compatibility list
[13:09] <cx42net> DasEi, well I think, I configured it after the bios has booted and use dmraid under ubuntu
[13:10] <DasEi> cx42net: raid 1 fakeraid so ?
[13:10] <doodoo> DasEi, compatibility list? whats that?
[13:10] <DasEi> doodoo: second, searching link
[13:10] <doodoo> DasEi, ok
[13:10] <cx42net> DasEi, exactly! (I'm googling and just find the exact name :p)
[13:10] <lisandros> hi got a  problem with ubundu 10.10 and pc acer:aspire 5672wlmi it probably doesnt recognise  some drivers
[13:12] <vahid> how can i fix this error?
[13:12] <vahid>  Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[13:13] <cx42net> DasEi, do you have any idea on how I could fix it ?
[13:13] <DasEi> doodoo: http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/ubuntu-hardware-compatability-list-hcl/
[13:14] <doodoo> DasEi, thanks will check it out XD
[13:14] <DasEi> cx42net: you can fsck both drives, unmounted, from a live system
[13:14] <DasEi> vahid: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:15] <cx42net> DasEi,what I need is to resync both disc
[13:15] <DasEi> cx42net: that is done by bios utility in your case, is why, apart from hard-raid, I tend to softraid
[13:16] <cx42net> DasEi, and do you know how I can do that ?
[13:16] <cx42net> DasEi, does I only have to remove the raid and remake it ?
[13:16] <DasEi> cx42net: I don't  know your chip, and prbly you will loose data, time to backup
[13:16] <cx42net> DasEi, yay!
[13:16] <b0o-supermario> Hi suckers
[13:16] <pauru> hi
[13:17] <b0o-supermario> What is preferred license of ubuntu?
[13:17] <pauru> What do you mean?
[13:17] <DasEi> cx42net: consider a mdadm-setup, case reinstall
[13:17] <b0o-supermario> Preferred license
[13:17] <b0o-supermario> Gpl or bsd or x11 or apache?
[13:18] <pauru> Licence for what?
[13:18] <pauru> I think is GPL, not sure though
[13:18] <lisandros> hi got a  problem with ubundu 10.10 and pc acer:aspire 5672wlmi it probably doesnt recognise  some drivers
[13:18] <Bilz> hello. can someone help me with converting ps to pdf. im trying use ps2pdf but it converts it to a pdf half the size of the ps on the page
[13:18] <cx42net> DasEi, well, I'm gonna reboot and see what I can do. Thanks for your help
[13:18] <DasEi> cx42net: unless you have real weak hardware (proc) , it's much metter to controll than this fake raid
[13:18] <DasEi> better*
[13:18] <pauru> You can always google it :P
[13:18] <b0o-supermario> Gpl can't feed 95% programmers' family
[13:18] <b0o-supermario> I can't google it
[13:19] <yeahyeahyeah> b0o-supermario, yes it can
[13:19] <phoenixsampras1> help ! how to test ldap binding string by command line?
[13:19] <acicula> b0o-supermario: dont troll, and to answer your question they are all very different, if its for a buisness consider consulting an expert/lawyer
[13:19] <b0o-supermario> I am an anti-stallman activist
[13:19] <yeahyeahyeah> then leave and use windows
[13:20] <acicula> b0o-supermario: and you are free to be one, but not here
[13:20] <bullgard> b0o-supermario: Do not troll here.
[13:20] <DasEi> ..
[13:20] <b0o-supermario> I think open source and proprietary should help each other and focus on developing technology instead of dumping each other
[13:20] <acicula> !ot | b0o-supermario
[13:20] <b0o-supermario> Answer me and i'll leave
[13:20] <DasEi> !ot | b0o-supermario
[13:21] <b0o-supermario> This is ubuntu related: which is most preferred license?
[13:21] <Pici> b0o-supermario: Its not support related.
[13:21] <lisandros>  hi got a  problem with ubundu 10.10 and pc acer:aspire 5672wlmi it probably doesnt recognise  some drivers
[13:22] <DasEi> !details | lisandros
[13:22] <DasEi> lisandros: some hardware not detected ?
[13:23] <b0o-supermario> O.o
[13:23] <lisandros> ubottu i cant see videos on youtube /i cant use ma camera on skype and i cant play HoN...
[13:23] <DasEi> lisandros: so other issue :
[13:24] <DasEi> lisandros: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras cheese
[13:24] <lisandros> can u tell it more simple im a noob:P
[13:24] <DasEi> lisandros: ubott.. is th channel ro-bot , triggered by "!", sure, nvm
[13:25] <DasEi> lisandros: open a terminal
[13:25] <DasEi> lisandros: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras cheese
[13:26] <DasEi> lisandros: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:26] <zowki> How can I use rsync to merge 2 directories without creating new directories in the destination? (merge only existing directories in destination)
[13:26] <coz_> if you are planning to play DVD's  you want to also run     sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[13:27] <DasEi> lisandros: which distro are you using ?
[13:27] <pauru> He is using 10.10
[13:27] <lisandros> cant do it
[13:28] <lisandros> cant copy
[13:28] <lisandros> w8 a sec
[13:28] <DasEi> lisandros: :)
[13:28] <b0o-supermario> Ubottu: o.o
[13:28] <coz_> zowki,   not sure but did you read through t his?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync
[13:28] <zowki> coz_: yes i read it but i cant find the option i described
[13:28] <coz_> mmm
[13:29] <bullgard> Why is there a line in /etc/passwd,  which starts with "man"? Why does the program man to identify itself at the system and possibly authenticate?
[13:29] <coz_> zowki,   ok if no one here can help try the ##linux channel  ,, someone there might know...but it is a bit slower than this channel...so ask and just hang out
[13:29] <lisandros> ok i m w8ing to finish install
[13:30] <DasEi> zowki: or #debian, you can grep/pipe the syntax. but I also haven't this handy, #bash is there, too
[13:30] <acicula> bullgard: it cant authenticate as
[13:31] <acicula> bullgard: if you look in /etc/passwd none of the system account have a password set, or a shell. which means you cant authenticate as that user. However you, or another program, can become that user
[13:31] <bullgard> acicula: You did not answer my question.
[13:32] <acicula> bullgard: the seperate system accounts are listed because of various reasons, man needs to be able to store formatted man pages
[13:32] <acicula> *separate
[13:32] <Abhijit> what does it mean when some website in browser shows striked https? is it security threat?
[13:33] <KJBobo> Anyone know how to clear wifi cache password?
[13:34] <maya_> my mousepad isn't working, help!
[13:34] <jrib> bullgard: see: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch12.en.html#s-faq-os-users
[13:34] <acicula> KJBobo: click on the network applet and click edit connections
[13:34] <bentkus_> there is always a turn off turn on function for mousepads
[13:34] <DasEi> lisandros: say when done, flash should work then, and don't get overhelmed, but work through : http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-ubuntu-10.10-maverick-meerkat
[13:35] <lisandros> ok
[13:35] <KJBobo> acicula - ok, i'll check it out, can it be done through command line?
[13:36] <Avasz> can i ask question about xubuntu here?
[13:36] <Avasz> actually it maybe ubuntu question too..... how to disable drag and drop in xubuntu?
[13:36] <acicula> KJBobo: yeah i think its stored in the gnome registry so gconftool can probably unset it too (google)
[13:37] <KJBobo> acicula - thanks bud!
[13:43] <bullgard> jrib: Thank you very much for your help.
[13:45] <backboxuser> hii
[13:46] <DasEi> lisandros: I gtg in some time, flash working now ?
[13:47] <lisandros> The installation in the terminal hasn't finished it just stuck
[13:47] <lisandros>  I rebooted and now i have some problems while running the command
[13:48] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[13:49] <DasEi1> lisandros ?
[13:51] <pauru> DasEi1, Dude, it did't work for some reason it stuck
[13:52] <DasEi1> pauru: is this lisandros ?
[13:52] <pauru> DasEi1, I am his friend
[13:52] <Connor93> Ubuntu is amazing <3
[13:52] <DasEi1> pauru: ic, well interrupting apt was a bad idea
[13:52] <Radiobuzz> hi there, is anyone here familiar with mesa and dri? I'm needing some help
[13:53] <pauru> DasEi1, Yeah... anyway this is the output http://pastebin.com/LPGGnvzE
[13:53] <DasEi1> pauru: rather patiences in first time, then correcting sources
[13:53] <ikonia> Radiobuzz: it's better if you just ask your questin, if someone knows, they will respond
[13:53] <usuario> usuario
[13:53] <Radiobuzz> ok then :)
[13:53] <Radiobuzz> after compiling the lastest mesa and installing it, xserver refuses to go up
[13:53] <DasEi1> pauru: TAB to get ok, so no stuck at all
[13:54] <ylmfos> one
[13:54] <Radiobuzz> I have the latest dri and intel drivers
[13:54] <ikonia> Radiobuzz: why did you update the mesa component ?
[13:54] <Radiobuzz> and everything went well while compiling mesa
[13:54] <Radiobuzz> because I want to try something with the latest version
[13:54] <acicula> Radiobuzz: thats sortof expected
[13:54] <ikonia> Radiobuzz: what did you want to try ?
[13:54] <Radiobuzz> I have the correct kernel and xorg version
[13:54] <Avasz> how to disable drang and drop... through command or gui.
[13:54] <DasEi1> pauru:  I gtg soon, tell lisandros : sudo dpkg --configure -a , then the update/grade again, mind want to find fastest mirror by synaptic
[13:55] <ikonia> Avasz: drag and drop is not a feature you disable, it's part of the desktop
[13:55] <Radiobuzz> well, I want to try the opengl support on this new version
[13:55] <usuario> usuario
[13:55] <usuario> usuario
[13:55] <usuario> vakibetiko
[13:55] <Avasz> ikonia, but this is irritating me... or.. can it be driver issue too?
[13:55] <ikonia> Radiobuzz: did you look at it's support/compatability to the xorg version ubuntu is using
[13:55] <ikonia> Avasz: wht is irritating to you ?
[13:55] <pauru> DasEi1, ok so i will tell him to run first "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and then "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras cheese"
[13:56] <Radiobuzz> well, mesa needs xorg 1.5 or superior
[13:56] <Avasz> ikonia, this is something like drag and drop.. it tries to drag and drop anything i click.. hyperlinks.. icons.. etc etc.
[13:56] <Radiobuzz> I checked synaptic and apparently my version is indeed superior to that
[13:56] <DasEi1> pauru: yes, and then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, and TAb-key lets you jump to the OK buttons
[13:56] <ikonia> Avasz: don't drag and drop then
[13:56] <DasEi1> TAB*
[13:57] <Avasz> ikonia, can it be related to my touchpad/eraser head drivers?
[13:57] <ikonia> Radiobuzz: look in the xorg logs then see why it refuses to start
[13:57] <ikonia> Avasz: I have no idea
[13:57] <Avasz> ikonia, no. i dont drag and drop.. it just does it.. whatever i click.
[13:57] <Radiobuzz> yeah, I checked that but I didn't saw anything useful
[13:57] <Radiobuzz> let me put it online so you can check it
[13:57] <coraxx> Here is an odd question...  I have a problem with SSH.  When I connect to a remote computer through a VPN-connection, I can only run commands in the SSH session that has one-line responses ...except 'grep'.  i.e. and can write 'ls -all | grep r' and get a response, but no response when writing just 'ls' ...can't edit files with nano or view them with 'cat' ...what is the problem ?
[13:57] <ikonia> Radiobuzz: I don't want to check it
[13:57] <ikonia> Radiobuzz: what did the log say was the reason for startup failure ?
[13:58] <Radiobuzz> it said that no screens were found
[13:58] <ikonia> coraxx: what happens when you type "ls"
[13:58] <ikonia> Radiobuzz: yes, but there should be an error before that explaining why no screens are found,
[13:58] <coraxx> ikonia: the cursor freezes after the command line after I hit 'Enter'
[13:58] <ikonia> Radiobuzz: any WW warnings or EE errors ?
[13:59] <ikonia> coraxx: sounds like the remote machine is having a problem
[13:59] <ikonia> coraxx: does it ever "un freeze"
[13:59] <coraxx> ikonia: probably ...but what kind ?
[13:59] <Radiobuzz> no, not really, I'm checking again
[13:59] <ikonia> coraxx: what is the linux version you are sshing into
[13:59] <coraxx> ikonia: no...it freezes completly ...can't even 'Ctrl-C' the session ...I have to close the whole Terminal window.
[14:00] <Radiobuzz> the only EE line says "no devices detected"
[14:00] <coraxx> ikonia: Ubuntu lucid lynx 10.04.2
[14:00] <Radiobuzz> everything before that seems correct
[14:00] <ikonia> Radiobuzz: ok, so there is the problem
[14:00] <ikonia> coraxx: and what linux version are you sshing from
[14:01] <cronus> Avasz, try changing the settings in system > preferenses > mouse
[14:01] <coraxx> ikonia: I have tried both Maverick and Lucid  (don't think its a client issue tho ...I just have multiple workstations here)
[14:01] <ikonia> coraxx: look in the syslogs on the remote machines, it's also possible it's the vpn link
[14:01] <ikonia> coraxx: routing also ?
[14:02] <DasEi1> lisandros: getting by ?
[14:02] <coraxx> ikonia: I have issues in viewing files remotely ...as I can't 'cat' them .... if I know what I'm looking for I can 'grep' it and get a response.
[14:02] <DasEi1> pauru > lisandros
[14:03] <Radiobuzz> ikonia, what should I do?
[14:03] <Avasz> cronus, tried it already. not working. how can i find what is my mouse hardware. lshw?
[14:03] <ikonia> coraxx: obvious things, error, warning etc
[14:03] <ikonia> Radiobuzz: debug why Xorg can't see any devices
[14:03] <coraxx> ikonia: if it was a routing problem the VPN-connection wouldn't be stable and there would be other symptoms is remote controlling it ...however the issue is very consistent.
[14:03] <cronus> Avasz, yes. if it is a usb mous you can use lsusb as well
[14:03] <Radiobuzz> ok, how can I do it?
[14:04] <ikonia> coraxx: yes, routing is unlikly
[14:04] <coraxx> ikonia: (oh...when I say specific things I meant...a specific search-string)
[14:04] <Avasz> cronus, my laptop has one trackpoint and touchpad too
[14:04] <ikonia> Radiobuzz: if you're not in a position to understand how to debug X, why are you testing xorg components ?
[14:04] <ikonia> Radiobuzz: I'll let you work out the debugging,
[14:05] <pauru> DasEil: He did it, but it still doesn't work
[14:05] <Radiobuzz> how very helpful
[14:07] <DasEi1> lisandros:what's up ?
[14:07] <lisandros> I did it but is still doesn't work
[14:08] <cronus> Avasz, and you have the same problem with both of these?
[14:08] <lisandros> DasEil:I did it but is still doesn't work
[14:09] <Avasz> cronus, yes.
[14:09] <coraxx> ikonia: the next best answer I'm looking for is a way of defining the problem, so I can go on a search.  It's just so weird to describe :-)
[14:10] <lisandros> DasEi1, i did it but didnt worked
[14:10] <DasEi1> lisandros: you installed restricted extras and still have no youtube (aka flash ) ?
[14:10] <tim___> Did I do it right?
[14:10] <lisandros> DasEi1, yes..
[14:11] <budington42> I think so...
[14:11] <DasEi1> lisandros: sudo apt-get update, no errors ?
[14:11] <toto654> hello everyone, i created a partition, but ubuntu doesn't give me the right to access..how i change that
[14:12] <lisandros> DasEi1, no errors here
[14:12] <coraxx> toto654: the right ? ....has the partition been formated ?
[14:12] <DasEi1> lisandros: strange , then : sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[14:12] <toto654> coraxx: yes formated...and mounted
[14:13] <lisandros> DasEi1,  unable
[14:13] <coraxx> toto654: if its mounted, in what way are you denied access ?
[14:13] <DasEi1> lisandros: why ?
[14:13] <cronus> Avasz, I used to have the same problem with a high precision mouse, cant remember how I solved it though :(
[14:13] <lisandros> lisandros@lisandros-Aspire-5670:~$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[14:13] <lisandros> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[14:13] <lisandros> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[14:13] <lisandros> lisandros@lisandros-Aspire-5670:~$ ^C
[14:13] <FloodBot3> lisandros: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:14] <DasEi1> lisandros: synaptics open ? other apt running ?
[14:14] <lisandros> DasEi1,  i has synoptic open sry..
[14:14] <DasEi1> nvm, try again
[14:15] <lisandros> DasEi1, done
[14:16] <DasEi1> lisandros: tube  ?
[14:16] <lisandros> DasEi1, still doesnt working youtube videos and ma drivers are like non exist
[14:16] <DasEi1> lisandros: which browser ?
[14:16] <toto654> coraxx: sorry i was away for a mn, trying to put files in that partition, i'm not allowed
[14:17] <lisandros> DasEi1, mozzila
[14:17] <lisandros> DasEi1, The list is empty in my System/Administration/Additional Drivers
[14:17] <coraxx> toto654: ok, no worries :-) ...I think its probably a mounting issue ...did you mount as root  (using sudo) ? ...or did you mount it manually as a user ?
[14:18] <DasEi1> lisandros: firefox ? should do the job now.. , yes, that's for propitary hardwaredriveers, but if your display is fine, that's not the matter
[14:18] <DasEi1> lisandros: start ff from terminal, call youtube-vid and check the output in trml
[14:18] <nixil> anyone can tell me how to express the 3rd to the 6th charactors of the filename to the last with regular expression?
[14:19] <ugliefrog> omg i didnt know you could access another machine on the network from the terminal....ive been running vnc this whole time...Im trying to figure out the nfs file system ..(Pain)
[14:20] <lisandros> i did it
[14:20] <DasEi1> ugliefrog: which purpose ? nfs internal if fine, not recommended via inet
[14:20] <red2kic> ugliefrog: Install ssh. Use "Connect To Server: SSH" -- That's it.
[14:20] <coraxx> ugliefrog: using SSH is the usual way to remote access a machine ... and SCP to copy files via SSH from one machine to another
[14:20] <DasEi1> lisandros: pastie of terminal ?
[14:20] <lisandros> DasEi1,  i did it and error occured
[14:21] <iceroot> nixil: #bash
[14:21] <toto654> coraxx:  again sorry, now i'm back for good, as a user
[14:22] <ugliefrog> DasEi1, Im trying to mount directories on box a so i can see them all the time on box b
[14:22] <coraxx> toto654: which type of filesystem did you create the partition as ?
[14:22] <lisandros> DasEi1, lisandros@lisandros-Aspire-5670:~$ firefox
[14:22] <lisandros> ###!!! [Parent][RPCChannel] Error: Channel error: cannot send/recv
[14:22] <lisandros> ^C
[14:22] <lisandros> lisandros@lisandros-Aspire-5670:~$
[14:22] <FloodBot3> lisandros: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:22] <jj995> a system crashed and in the /var/log/messages file is kernel: [192471.714715] Assertion failed in ../../../../../../../../drivers/2d/lnx/fgl/drm/kernel/hal_r6xx.c at line: 75.  I can't find the file -- anybody know what this message means?
[14:22] <ginnn> how do I generate a xorg.conf file?
[14:22] <DasEi1> !paste | lisandros
[14:22] <DasEi1> lisandros: left link first link of above message ..
[14:23] <DasEi1> lisandros: copy from terminal, paste into browser, press post, give url from browser here
[14:23] <toto654> coraxx: thats what it is, on the partition's property, it tells me onnly roots have the rights
[14:23] <lisandros> http://pastebin.com/GsT6vVQe
[14:23] <lisandros> DasEi1, http://pastebin.com/GsT6vVQe
[14:23] <coraxx> toto654: yep, that's what I thought :-)
[14:23] <hannes__> hey guys, could someone help me with this? i can't login at console login prompt
[14:24] <toto654> coraxx: the thing is i have no idea how to fix that lol
[14:24] <elFidel> hannes__: "define" can't login
[14:24] <coraxx> toto654: is it a removable drive ?
[14:24] <hannes__> i can't type special characters at login prompt
[14:25] <hannes__> with weak passwords it works
[14:25] <toto654> coraxx: no its on the pc
[14:25] <coraxx> toto654: (and what filesystem is it?)
[14:25] <DasEi1> lisandros: does ff start up at all ?
[14:25] <toto654> coraxx: ext4
[14:25] <lisandros> DasEi1,  yeah it does
[14:26] <DasEi1> lisandros: and error comes up when launching the vid or just at starting, already ?
[14:26] <LiquidDemocracy> Hi.
[14:26] <dcorbin_wrk> What's the "right" way to determine which version of a package is installed from the command line?
[14:26] <lisandros> DasEi1,  it just starts
[14:27] <LiquidDemocracy> I just installed the latest google earth 6 on Ubuntu 64 bit 10.10. However when I click on the program nothing happens. I restarted but nothing... Any idea?
[14:27] <jrib> dcorbin_wrk: apt-cache policy PACKAGE  is one right way
[14:27] <DasEi1> dcorbin_wrk: apt-cache show PacketName
[14:27] <DasEi1> policy, yes
[14:27] <coraxx> toto654: ok ... you can unmount a try to remount it by using Gnome ...in user-context.   or ... you can't mount using root (sudo) but with some parameters that defines the user, group and rights (those info can also be put into the 'fstab'-file, if you want the drive mounting at a specific point automatically on every startup)
[14:27] <lisandros> DasEi1, youtube videos still doesnt work
[14:28] <coraxx> toto654: oops...meant " or ... you can"
[14:29] <toto654> coraxx: nothing simpler?
[14:29] <[TK]D-Fender> LiquidDemocracy: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-install-google-earth-in-ubuntu-10-10-maverick
[14:30] <coraxx> toto654: mount in gnome ...while beeing a user...is the simplest ...don't think it can get simpler than that :-)
[14:30] <DasEi1> lisandros: that's aproblem with firefox then, and for now I run out of time. install midori for a quick fix, the channel is around, too, I'll be back in ~ 2h
[14:30] <[TK]D-Fender> LiquidDemocracy: "When installing GoogleEarth 6 (instead of 5) on ubuntu 10.10, the procedure is the same as described in this post plus this fundamental step: ~$ sudo apt-get install lsb-core
[14:30] <DasEi1> sudo apt-get install midori
[14:30] <DasEi1> lisandros: ^
[14:30] <lisandros> DasEi1,  ok but Heroes Of Newearth still doesnt work:P
[14:30] <toto654> coraxx: thats what i did in the first place
[14:30] <lisandros> DasEi1,  i will probably be on
[14:31] <bentech4you> how to authenticate through microsoft ISA server
[14:31] <ugliefrog> I need help translating this in old guy learning linux terms plz http://pastebin.com/JccLJypt
[14:32] <coraxx> toto654: but when you clicked on the drive, that proberly said something like '123 GB Filesystem' were you automatically prompted for a password, to run the mounting process as root ?
[14:32] <toto654> coraxx: it open the folder...i see lost and found in there....but when i try to move files...its denied
[14:33] <LiquidDemocracy> [TK]D-Fender, thx
[14:33] <toto654> coraxx: i will unmount/mount again...
[14:34] <toto654> coraxx: still the same...permission denied
[14:35] <coraxx> toto654: ok...so you were not prompted.  Ok then ... I would try to change the root of the new partition's read/write access of the new partition ...by doing a chmod  (which you have to run as root) ...by the way, is the drive mounted at /media/something ?
[14:36] <sword_less> hi, I want to move my "/home" directory to a new partition. I want to use" usermod" command: usermod -d /home -m [the new directory]. is that the right way?
[14:36] <toto654> coraxx: yep, media...
[14:37] <acicula> sword_less: it would, but why break from the /home/<yourusername> convention?
[14:37] <erUSUL> !separatehome | sword_less
[14:38] <toto654> coraxx: i hate the chmod cmd
[14:38] <coraxx> toto654: you are probably running in to some small difficulties, because the drive is not considered removable.  So the system wants a little info from you about how the drive should be accessed and with what rights.
[14:39] <Pitel> Is there any C library for sound filters? We have to code sound equalizer at school.
[14:39] <LiquidDemocracy> [TK]D-Fender, it does not work
[14:39] <LiquidDemocracy> [TK]D-Fender, same problem
[14:39] <jrib> Pitel: try ##c
[14:39] <LiquidDemocracy> [TK]D-Fender, what do I enter for debian package in the last step?
[14:39] <zerium1> I'm on ubuntu 10.4 LTS trying reinstall coucdb and the init.d script is gone...
[14:40] <zerium1> err couchdb
[14:40] <coraxx> toto654: (be careful ...only use chmod on the mounted partition...and _not_ the root of you systems filesystem)
[14:40] <acicula> zerium1: maybe in /etc/init/ ?
[14:40] <dime_br> Alguem pode me ajudar com hd corrompido? (minha /home esta criptografada)
[14:40] <jrib> zerium1: your question?
[14:40] <dime_br> Sorry...
[14:40] <zerium1> jrib: can i reinstall and have apt regenerate the init.d?
[14:40] <toto654> coraxx: last time i used chmod cmd, i had to reinstall ubuntu
[14:41] <sword_less> so you mean is should be like:usermod -d /home/swordless -m /dev/sda8/home/swordless. "swordless" is my username.
[14:41] <jrib> zerium1: easiest way is to purge the package, then reinstall
[14:41] <[TK]D-Fender> LiquidDemocracy: I only Googled up that guide for you since it had some specific exceptions listed for it.  Scrol through the whole bit, and google up virtually the exact question you asked.  I saw a lot fo guides and reports for how to fix for your situation.
[14:41] <zerium1> jrib: i tired that...
[14:41] <zerium1> jrib: i'll try again though...
[14:41] <dime_br> Somebody can help-me with a hdd corrupted? (home folder is crypted)
[14:41] <jrib> zerium1: why is the file gone anyway?
[14:41] <coraxx> toto654: I donno know if can use nautilus ...but you can start up nautilus with 'sudo nautilus' ...then you have root-privi. ...then you can navigate to you mounting-point ...a maybe change the properties there.
[14:42] <toto654> coraxx: i try that
[14:42] <zerium1> jrib: i accidentally deleted it when trying to upgrade from backports...
[14:42] <BCS-Satori> Does anyone know the maximum number of drives recommended in a mdadm raid 5 before the IO gets to high?
[14:42] <jrib> sword_less: the command you pasted makes no sense, please do not run it on your system
[14:42] <coraxx> toto654: (be careful tho ...use nautilus in root-mode with caution)
[14:42] <jrib> zerium1: k, anyway purging and installing will restore the file
[14:42] <zerium1> jrib: stupid i know... i should have just backed it up
[14:43] <Pitel> jrib: it is a sound library? it looks like mix of C++ and C# :]
[14:43] <zerium1> jrib: i did apitude remove package --purge
[14:43] <jrib> Pitel: no, I mean try the ##c channel on this network
[14:43] <zerium1> and an reinstall... file didn't come back
[14:43] <jrib> zerium1: erm, I don't think that's valid syntax for aptitude
[14:43] <manufort> bjr a tous
[14:44] <hannes__> hello, i can not login via console prompt because i can't type special characters in console. in X (with gdm) it works fine.
[14:44] <zerium1> jrib: purge first?
[14:44] <zerium1> or purge after?
[14:44] <jrib> zerium1: the syntax is « aptitude purge PACKAGE »
[14:44] <toto654> coraxx: initialy i made that partition for arch, but during the installation, i made a mistake, and i lost everything, had to go on live cd to get to my pc lol, but now i have use for that partition
[14:44] <zerium1> jrib: thx trying that now
[14:44] <manufort> pourquoi ma cle usb ne fonctionne pas svp
[14:44] <jrib> !fr | manufort
[14:45] <zerium1> jrib: after i purge couch is still running...
[14:45] <ubontu> ohai
[14:46] <zerium1> jrib: do i need to reboot the box?
[14:46] <ubontu> I would like to know how to disable some kernel modules needed for an app on load, and only load em when this app is about to be launched. Is this even possible?
[14:46] <jrib> zerium1: probably because there's no init script...
[14:46] <zerium1> jrib: ok rebooting...
[14:47] <oisteink> Trying to get Picasa showing in 10.10 netbook launcher. google search result said use AWN - but it's not showhing up. Is there any other way to make a custom icon in launcher?
[14:47] <toto654> coraxx: Nautilus-Share-Message: Called "net usershare info" but it failed: « net usershare » error 255 : net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares.
[14:47] <toto654> coraxx: i made that partition on windows...thats the problem no?
[14:47] <cdtank> i am trying to insdtall 10.10 32-bit via usb using universal usb installer./.. i am getting "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system." when i boot up trough usb stick
[14:48] <coraxx> toto654: yes, than can cause a part of the problem
[14:48] <cdtank> the laptop is a new thinkpad w510
[14:48] <coraxx> coraxx: how did you create an ext4 partition in Windows if I may ask ?
[14:48] <cdtank> any pointers?
[14:49] <toto654> coraxx: i created the partition on windows...than i formatted in linux
[14:49] <coraxx> toto654: ok ... then not a big problem.
[14:50] <axscode> hi i wonder whats the best gui-based apps to format my other partition?
[14:50] <coraxx> axscode: GParted
[14:50] <axscode> thanks
[14:51] <Logan_> !gparted | axscode
[14:51] <bitr> hi i've got a problem with my atheros ar242x in ubuntu
[14:51] <toto654> coraxx: i changed the parameters in sudo nautilus...still denied access...:-/
[14:51] <axscode> if i reformat my /dev/sda1 and my linux runs on /dev/sda3 , my boot sector will never touch right? i still able to boot on my linux.?
[14:51] <zerium1> jrib: gah rebooted and now i cant ssh
[14:52] <ikonia> toto654: gksudo nautilus
[14:52] <Logan_> !atheros | bitr
[14:52] <bitr> i read i have to install some drivers
[14:52] <toto654> ikonia: trying that
[14:52] <coraxx> toto654: did you remount ?
[14:52] <ikonia> toto654: that won't effect permissions, it's just the correct way to launch it
[14:53] <bitr> ok
[14:53] <Potato> hello, anybody cool with alpine?
[14:53] <bitr> but i read i have to install compat-wireless
[14:53] <Logan_> !anyone | Potato
[14:54] <bitr> i don't know how to install i decompress on desktop what i have to do
[14:54] <[TK]D-Fender> axscode: Formatting of partitions has nothing to do with the boot-loader.
[14:55] <axscode> thanks
[14:55] <Logan_> Potato: are you talking about the Alpine Linux distro?
[14:55] <Potato> Logan_, alpine error: imap.gmail.com     reason for failure is---ssl negotiation failed
[14:55] <[TK]D-Fender> axscode: As long as your bootloader points to where it should, yuo should be fine
[14:55] <Logan_> Potato: oh, the mailserver
[14:55] <Potato> nope, email-client
[14:55] <Logan_> *client
[14:55] <Logan_> yeah
[14:56] <axscode> thanks D, one more think vbox under linux, runing win7 will be fine? any thought about its degrade of performance?
[14:56] <zerium1> which kernel should i be using for 10.4 lts on an amd?
[14:56] <toto654> ikonia: ok it works, but without using gksudo and with changing parameters i still have access denied
[14:57] <toto654> ikonia: i will have to use gksudo all the time...it doesn't bother me
[14:57] <malk> r
[14:57] <ikonia> it's the correct way to launch it
[14:57] <toto654> ikonia: thank you so much
[14:58] <malk> welcome
[14:58] <jrib> zerium1: -generic on the desktop -server on the server
[14:58] <cerebellum> hi, is there a way to improve stability of Banshee Media Player?
[15:00] <[TK]D-Fender> axscode: Well if you virtualize anything the of course ti will run shlower than native...
[15:00] <axscode> but im not sure if adobe photoshop cs4 will run on virtual box
[15:01] <cdtank> i am trying to insdtall 10.10 32-bit via usb using universal usb installer./.. i am getting "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system." when i boot up trough usb stick
[15:01] <cdtank> any pointers?
[15:03] <dime_br> someone can help-me to access my encrypted folder with a live cd?
[15:03] <[TK]D-Fender> axeConsidered using Wine?
[15:03] <[TK]D-Fender> axscode: Considered using Wine?
[15:04] <axscode> i hope wine can support adobe cs4 photoshop, without any glitches
[15:04] <ret> i've got an atheros as network interface controller in ubuntu
[15:04] <Potato> Logan_, alpine error: imap.gmail.com     reason for failure is---ssl negotiation failed>what is it?
[15:04] <[TK]D-Fender> dime_br: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-mounting-your-encrypted-home-from-livecd/
[15:04] <axscode> found some forum.. aint nice.
[15:04] <ret> my internet connection does not work
[15:04] <ret> i read i have to install compat wireless driver
[15:05] <[TK]D-Fender> ret: Then this conversation is my most interesting hallucination today ;)
[15:05] <ret> http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/stable/
[15:05] <ret> why hallucination?
[15:05] <ret> sorry i'm not a newbie
[15:06] <ret> maybe i said something funny :)
[15:06] <[TK]D-Fender> ret: You did.  You said your internet connection doesn't work ... to an IRC channel :)
[15:06] <ret> :D
[15:06] <jrib> !encrypted > dime_br
[15:07] <ret> that's true!
[15:07] <ret> (but not on this computer)
[15:07] <ret> it doesn't work on my laptop
[15:07] <toto654> ikonia: i have a question...everything is fine, but i put some files in there, than for testing i put in to the trash bin, but my trash bin is empty...where does it go
[15:07] <Potato> no reply on alpine .....
[15:08] <suee> hey . is there any picture editor software like photoshop for ubuntu ?
[15:08] <bigbang> gimp
[15:08] <jrib> suee: gimp
[15:08] <bullgard> hannes_'man locale': "The locale program writes information about the current locale environment, or all locales, to standard output." What is a "locale environment"?
[15:08] <gcristian> hello guys, does anybody know a command to gather the disk volume name ?
[15:08] <Potato> sorry for people who got washed away with my question
[15:08] <gcristian> or ID... something that could identify the harddisk i'm on
[15:08] <ret> anyway i want to install drivers. I found'em here but how can i do to install it? i decompressed them on desktop
[15:08] <suee> already try it . but its less functional :(
[15:08] <ret> http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/stable/
[15:08] <bullgard> Potato: GParted
[15:08] <jrib> suee: in what way?
[15:09] <ret> any suggestion?
[15:09] <Potato> bullgard , you mean gparted... partition manager?
[15:09] <bullgard> Potato: Yes.
[15:09] <jrib> !wireless > ret
[15:10] <Potato> why ? to wipe out my HDD
[15:10] <Potato> ?
[15:10] <ret> ubottu i already read waht you send me
[15:10] <Potato> !alpine
[15:11] <ret> but anyway i've to fix my problem
[15:11] <cutiyar_> how to mount erased disk ??
[15:11] <ret> anyone can help me^
[15:11] <ret> ?
[15:11] <bullgard> Potato: I addressed you errorneously.
[15:12] <jrib> ret: what card do you have?
[15:12] <Potato> who else is Potato ?
[15:12] <ret> atheros ar242x
[15:12] <bullgard> gcristian:  : GParted
[15:12] <Potato> damn
[15:12] <Krycek> patoto
[15:12] <stag-reseau7> hi there
[15:12] <ret> jrib i need ath5k right?
[15:12] <cutiyar_> how to mount erased disk ??
[15:13] <stag-reseau7> wassup everybody
[15:13] <ret> i mean for atheros ar242x
[15:13] <Krycek> nah
[15:15] <ret> jrib: I read this guide http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/stable/ but i cannot install the packet can you help me?
[15:15] <jrib> ret: I'm reading
[15:15] <ret> ok
[15:15] <fairuz> Hi, I want to use request_irq but have no idea what to put in the irq number?
[15:16] <v4nelle> guys anybody with floola and ubuntu?
[15:17] <jrib> ret: In the meantime, have you checked System -> Administration -> Additional Drivers yet?
[15:17] <Pumpkin-> recommended video cards if I want a hassle free life with X. Is the advice still "buy nvidia" ?.
[15:17] <AnubArack> wow KDE looks badass ....
[15:18] <bullgard> 'man locale': "The locale program writes information about the current locale environment, or all locales, to standard output." What is a "locale environment"?
[15:18] <jrib> bullgard: the current settings of your locale?
[15:18] <ret> jrib yes
[15:19] <jrib> ret: and?
[15:19] <genii-around> bullgard: If you just type locale without arguments it shows you
[15:19] <llutz_> bullgard: "info locale" "man 7 locale"
[15:19] <ret> jrib: yes there are drivers for atheros currently working
[15:20] <jrib> ret: ok, and the issue is?
[15:20] <ret> but I can't see any wireless connection available
[15:21] <Potato> hello genii-around , for some unknown reasons i could not open the link you gave me last time, could you plz help me with alpine?
[15:21] <jrib> ret: did you reboot after enabling the drivers there?
[15:21] <ret> yes many times! :)
[15:22] <jrib> ret: well compat-wireless is in the repositories (apt-cache search compat-wireless) but my guess is that that's what's being used by Additional Drivers anyway
[15:23] <roland> where do I find firefox's plugin folder?
[15:23] <jrib> roland: why?
[15:23] <ammstng> how can i keep ubuntu from freezing up?
[15:23] <ret> jrib: anyway if i don't have this path system-admin.-add. drivers but i have syst-adm-hardware drivers
[15:23] <speedy> AptonCd any one use it is it good to make cd or dvd's from this by adding and removing what is needed
[15:23] <compdoc> ammstng, usually, its not ubuntu
[15:23] <notjohn> is it possible to run apt-get install <pkg> and restrict it to a specific repo in sources.list.d ?
[15:24] <jrib> ret: that's fine, you're on lucid then?
[15:24] <ammstng> what is it then?
[15:24] <compdoc> bad ram, bad motherboard, bad psu
[15:24] <jrib> notjohn: see if -t does what you want (man apt-get)
[15:24] <ret> ad here i can see support for atheros wireless lan card
[15:24] <dime_br> [TK]D-Fender, on "ecryptfs-mount-private" I received: "mount: Operation not permitted"
[15:24] <speedy> aptoncd like a repo of installed software
[15:24] <switch88> hey
[15:24] <ret> driver activated and in use
[15:24] <roland> jrib: flash10 64bit
[15:24] <dime_br> this is the problem
[15:24] <switch88> im runnning backtrack 4, and i wanna use two monitors, any ideas?
[15:25] <jrib> roland: use ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[15:25] <jrib> !backtrack | switch88
[15:25] <ammstng> none are bad, slow processor gona upgrade to dual 3G
[15:25] <switch88> !backtrack
[15:25] <Polarina> The icons in the top panel to the right in GNOME are showing up on the right side of the clock, instead of the left side like in the default installation. How can I move them back?
[15:26] <speedy> the software in aptoncd is good from one machine to another just burn cd or dvd and add it to software sources to install on another box?
[15:26] <ret> jrib: i think i should install compat wireless as you can see from the guide i posted
[15:26] <jrib> ret: compat-wireless is in the repositories.  You can check if it's already installed
[15:26] <speedy> is it safe to remove apt-cache?
[15:27] <speedy> can the apt-cache be backed up
[15:27] <Jubei> howdy guys. Can somebody tell me how I can run that console utility that guesses your keyboard layout? the one that runs during installation
[15:27] <speedy> if  needed later
[15:27] <ret> jrib: Where i have to go? maybe in synaptic package manager?
[15:27] <jrib> ret: sure
[15:28] <mauro__> ciao
[15:28] <acicula> speedy: its part of the apt package which cant(shouldnt) be uninstalled
[15:28] <mauro__> hi there!!!
[15:28] <mauro__> I hv
[15:28] <speedy> acicula : thanks
[15:28] <mauro__> I have a problem with a cron tab some one could you help me?
[15:29] <llutz_> speedy: are you talking about the program "apt-cache" or apt's cache (the data pool)?
[15:29] <speedy> Ailurus app shows clean apt: cache frees 500mbytes
[15:29] <ret> jrib: there isn't
[15:30] <jrib> ret: there isn't what?
[15:30] <speedy> apt-cache i think
[15:30] <ret> jrib: compat wireless to install
[15:30] <acicula> ooh speedy i misunderstood then, its safe to clean the cache of apt
[15:30] <Senix> Guest7148: lrn2nick
[15:30] <acicula> speedy: i thought you ment removing the apt-cache program, which is something different
[15:31] <speedy> acicula this is just a place it holds apps i have installed using apt-get on command line
[15:31] <speedy> no not to remove it
[15:31] <jrib> ret: what is the output of: aptitude search 'compat-wireless'
[15:31] <Guest7148> hi guys when i trying to parse wrong php code my apache returns 500 ( not returns where is the error ) i've opened error_reporting from my php.ini what can i do for it?
[15:31] <acicula> speedy: yeah, apt-get clean will clean out the cache
[15:31] <mauro__> I want to change a gnome background with a script csh but the program works only if I run by the bash with nohup or crontab dosen't work..
[15:31] <speedy> sorry
[15:31] <Zoppa1> does anyone have a way to fix a broken update of the tzdata package?
[15:32] <mazdok> hi there
[15:32] <mazdok> I have a problem with this Makefile
[15:32] <mazdok> http://pastebin.com/2CnvdCMh
[15:32] <Cody3290> hi. In firestarter, what is the difference between the preferred packet rejection methods, and what are the pro's and con's of each one? Drop Silently or Reject with Error  Packet?
[15:32] <Wartoghex> hi guys when i trying to parse wrong php code my apache returns 500 ( not returns where is the error ) i've opened error_reporting from my php.ini what can i do for it?
[15:32] <Senix> Do you have all the dependancies? mazdok
[15:32] <mazdok> does anyone know how can I link the two files?
[15:32] <ret> jrib: nothing i mean it appears a new command line
[15:32] <mauro__> I want to change a gnome background with a script csh but the program works only if I run by the bash with nohup or crontab dosen't work..
[15:32] <jrib> ret: that's pretty strange
[15:32] <mazdok> Senix, yes it's a simple makefile (3 files, 1 .h and 2 .cc)
[15:32] <ret> jrib:yap
[15:33] <d1gital> Is Ubuntu Light available to end-users yet?  Will it ever be?
[15:33] <Senix> mazdok: you should be fine, unless theres a problem with the code, thats the only thing that your pastebin shows.
[15:33] <bullgard> jribI'm sorry but I have to leave.
[15:33] <jrib> ret: pastebin your sources.list
[15:33] <ret> jrib: but i've downloaded compat wireless from that link i posted
[15:33] <jrib> ret: like I've told you, they are in the repositories
[15:34] <jrib> ret: look: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=compat-wireless&searchon=names&suite=lucid&section=all
[15:34] <mazdok> Senix, uhm the problem is that one of that files depend on the other so compiling it I get an error
[15:34] <Pumpkin-> Cody3290: exactly what it sounds like. "Drop" means just through the packet away totally. "Reject" means send back an ICMP error telling the host connecting that it isn't allowed to.
[15:34] <ret> yes but now i'm on a computer and here internet works
[15:34] <mauro__> someone can have some suggestion? please
[15:34] <mazdok> Senix, /home/dany/ToCompile/kinect-apps-playground-fingertip-detection/simple_gesture.cc:313: undefined reference to `FeatureExtractor::Process(unsigned char*, int const*, int)'
[15:34] <mazdok> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[15:34] <mazdok> make: *** [simple_gesture] Error 1
[15:34] <ret> in my laptop it doesn't work
[15:35] <jrib> ret: plug in ethernet
[15:35] <speedy> can the cache b backed up its the apps installed using apt-get on command line coorect? then in the AptonCD uses the apt-cache to make CD's or DVD's correct? if so one could make the backups to cd or dvd then clean the apt-cache out ?
[15:35] <ret> so maybe i have to update to see it in the repository
[15:35] <Senix> mazdok: oh i see, ok so you need to contact the developer for that, or there should be a FAQ you can read, I don't have that certain package at hand so i can't help you, i apologive
[15:35] <Senix> *apologize
[15:36] <Zoppa1> ret: I had the a similar prob with my laptop...ethernet cable ...dl drivers for wireless
[15:36] <jrib> ret: anyway, once you do that, you should be able to grab linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic .  That gets you compat-wireless.  Whether or not that solves your actual problem, I do not know
[15:36] <mazdok> Senix, thx anyway
[15:36] <mazdok> :)
[15:36] <scoup> hi
[15:37] <ret> yes but i don't know where my ethernet wire
[15:37] <dime_br> someone can help-me to access my encrypted folder from a live cd? I just do it http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-mounting-your-encrypted-home-from-livecd/ but, on ecryptfs-mount-private I got  "mount: Operation not permitted"
[15:37] <ret> i'm going to search it
[15:37] <jrib> ret: borrow the one on your desktop :)
[15:37] <scoup> can i get some help in iptables?
[15:37] <genii-around> Potato: Apologies, but I can't help right now, work is needing me away from my computer too much.
[15:37] <McQueen> hi i want to record live stream video for http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/  how can i record this stream?
[15:37] <jrib> scoup: you should ask a specific question, but if you want help with writing iptables rules, #iptables is likely a better bet
[15:37] <ret> if i won't find it i'll do
[15:38] <scoup> ктонить может помочь с iptables? *)
[15:38] <Zoppa1> ret: just plug the laptop in with the ethernet from your desktop into the ethernet port should be on the side or back of the laptop
[15:38] <jrib> scoup: english here please
[15:38] <mauro__> I want to change a gnome background with a script csh but the program works only if I run by the bash with nohup or crontab dosen't work..
[15:38] <Pumpkin-> Recommendations for hassle free video cards ?. Nvidia 8600S's seem okay ?
[15:38] <ret> i know zoppal, i don't have two wire!
[15:39] <ret> :D
[15:39] <jrib> Pumpkin-: should be okay
[15:39] <cloversg> Hiz, I'm looking for help in booting 10.04 off RAID5.  Somehow I am unable to install grub2 on the system.  Can anyone help?
[15:39] <ret> jrib: anyway i'll do but i have to closed my connection with you i'll come back later
[15:39] <jrib> ret: ok, good luck
[15:39] <Pumpkin-> jrib: thanks. I've not run X for years and I'm way out of date on desktop linux in general
[15:40] <Zoppa1> ret just unplug the wire from the back of the desktop and use that one...it has a connection right?
[15:40] <bl4ckcomb> does anyone know a QR code reader (using webcam) for linux?
[15:40] <d1gital> Is it possible to download Ubuntu Light, or at least build something similar?
[15:41] <acicula> d1gital: define ubuntu light, there is xubuntu that has lower hardware requirements
[15:41] <speedy> build a light ubuntu by using the uck
[15:41] <cloversg> anyone with knowledge of booting of RAID5 ?
[15:42] <acicula> uck ?
[15:42] <speedy> ubuntu construction kit
[15:42] <speedy> its in the repos
[15:42] <Jeruvy> speedy, beware, uck is a bit buggy..
[15:43] <mauro__> I want to change a gnome background with a script csh but the program works only if I run by the bash with nohup or crontab dosen't work..
[15:43] <speedy> Jeruvy yes i would agree it needs some tweaks and a few fixes but it does work
[15:43] <speedy> patience
[15:43] <speedy> lots of coffee
[15:43] <d1gital> acicula:  there is an Ubuntu Light edition mentioned on Canonical's Products page that is supposed to boot in 7 seconds.  http://www.canonical.com/engineering-services/oem-services/why-ubuntu/products
[15:44] <Jeruvy> speedy, agreed, not for the impatient.
[15:44] <speedy> no its not
[15:44] <mauro__> !ask
[15:44] <juank_prada> hi guys, does ubuntu-one encrypts files when synchronizing?
[15:44] <mauro__> csh script dosen't work in the crontab
[15:45] <Tadcrazio> hey guys i have a real quick questions i hope i can get answered. My teacher had emailed me a document to take to class in 45 minutes.. It looks like a docx file, when i download it to open it, it shows up as an ashx file? something i never heard of and for the life of me i can't open
[15:45] <acicula> d1gital: dunno if eck lets you strip down ubuntu that far
[15:45] <lusmus> is the some diffreents between ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop, if i choose to install server apps from you know
[15:45] <cloversg> Hiz, I'm looking for help in booting 10.04 off RAID5.  Somehow I am unable to install grub2 on the system.  Can anyone help?
[15:45] <compdoc> docx is the newer MS office
[15:45] <yuly> ^
[15:45] <d1gital> speedy:  thanks!  I've been looking for something like this.  I even paid for a subscription to Reconstructor at one point.. (do not recommend)
[15:45] <cloversg> openoffice reads docx
[15:45] <Senix> Tadcrazio: you can save what you done to the document as the same format, well if you're using open office
[15:46] <jrib> Tadcrazio: openoffice should work, but try google docs if you're in a rush
[15:46] <Senix> Tadcrazio: jrib has a point ->
[15:46] <yuly> ^
[15:46] <speedy> use Novo or remastersys or Reconstructor
[15:47] <Zoppa1> has anyone updated their tzdata today? Is the broken package a problem at my end or the repository?
[15:47] <Tadcrazio> the thing is i cant even open it on my computer because openoffice cant read it and teh file extension is .ashx
[15:47] <speedy> dlgital : ur welcome I have tried them all some not good others need some work and tweaks hopefully one day it will come to light to make this task easier
[15:47] <Zoppa1> Tad: try gedit
[15:48] <speedy> Reconstructor ok i guess had issues with it
[15:49] <lusmus> someone?
[15:49] <Tadcrazio> that doesnt seem to work either..
[15:50] <OerHeks> lusmus, ubuntu server had no gui/desktop
[15:50] <compdoc> lusmus, if you like a desktop gui like gnome, then no need to use the server version
[15:50] <Zoppa1> does vi work?
[15:50] <compdoc> use the desktop version as a server - works fine
[15:50] <lusmus> compdoc: but if i want a have a desktop + server? how do i do?
[15:50] <SkipF> what does 'file <name>.ashx' say about the file?
[15:50] <gcristian> does anybody knows a soft to group filesystem operations into a transaction ?
[15:51] <llutz_> Tadcrazio: ask your teacher what that stuff is and kindly request a readable file instead
[15:51] <gcristian> (python module better)
[15:51] <speedy> dlgital: here is another I have used its not bad here is the link : http://maketecheasier.com/build-your-own-ubuntu-based-distro-with-novo-builder/2010/07/02
[15:51] <OerHeks> Zoppa1, yes
[15:51] <Pumpkin-> lusmus: there are very frw differences between server and desktop. Different default kernel and different default installed packages are about it.
[15:52] <Tadcrazio> what gets me is that my school email on live.com can read it and and googlemail and read it (well view it) but the moment i save it the format changed
[15:52] <lusmus> Pumpkin-: but what is recommended. get server dist, and download desktop to the server?
[15:52] <Tadcrazio> well im going to print it as a pdf from google docs thanks guys
[15:52] <llutz_> Tadcrazio: some googling says ".asp http"... miscrosoft crap
[15:53] <llutz_> html
[15:53] <Zoppa1> tad: http://www.fileinfo.com/extension/ashx
[15:53] <Zoppa1> have you tried document viewer or adobe pdf reader?
[15:54] <speedy> Old Gnome 2.xx or ne Gnome with new shell?
[15:55] <Benkinooby> when using samba shares in nautlius i am asked to enter my domain. what domain do i have to choose?
[15:55] <compdoc> dont have to enter a domain
[15:55] <Pumpkin-> lusmus: I really don't think it matters much
[15:56] <jelly_> can you speak chinese
[15:56] <jelly_> everybody?
[15:56] <cloversg> I can speak chinese, but can't type it
[15:56] <DJones> !cn | jelly_
[15:57] <cloversg> Hiz, I'm looking for help in booting 10.04 off RAID5.  Somehow I am unable to install grub2 on the system.  Can anyone help?
[15:58] <speedy> install Grub on the first sector of boot drive i think example sda sda1 sda2 sda? should go on sda  I think
[15:58] <jelly_> oh no   i'm just play for a well
[15:58] <jonnor> How can I get the source packages from a PPA onto my harddrive?
[15:58] <Zoppa1> does anyone have a suggestion about how to fix a broken package when package manager can't?
[15:58] <jiltdil> ny tips to secure apache web server also documentation link for this
[15:58] <cloversg> speedy - doesn't work.  installer say NO
[15:58] <piloua> salut tt le monded
[15:59] <speedy> not sure? should work unless parttitions r something is not correct
[16:00] <jiltdil> !apache
[16:00] <aeon-ltd> Zoppa1: sudo dpkg -configure -a
[16:00] <cloversg> following Ubuntu's documentation doesn't work as well.  Following GPT's recommendation doesn't work too
[16:00] <sorin7486> I can't get svnserve to start on boot, followed this guide but it doesn't work http://benrobb.com/2007/01/15/howto-start-subversion-at-boot-on-ubuntu/
[16:01] <cloversg> somehow grub doesn't want to go on /dev/sda or /dev/md0
[16:01] <sorin7486> and I can't figure out why
[16:01] <sougata> hi
[16:02] <Benkinooby> compdoc, if i don't enter a domain i can not klcik login
[16:02] <cloversg> sorry sorin not rated on subversion
[16:02] <llutz_> cloversg: tried "sudo grub-install md0"?
[16:02] <speedy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1486655 forum on grub2 and raid5
[16:02] <cloversg> llutz - done that been there
[16:03] <sorin7486> cloversg, it makes no sense, if I run the script from init.d after boot it starts fine
[16:03] <adam_> где вс е?
[16:03] <erUSUL> !ru
[16:03] <sara_> hi
[16:03] <ceo> PLEASE need you help all !!! ASAP.!!!
[16:03] <cloversg> the installer dies at the grub-install, also when I boot from a live-cd to put the grub on, it also compails
[16:03] <ceo> -buntu
[16:03] <cloversg> complains
[16:03] <speedy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1452235 more forum on grub2 and raid
[16:03] <ceo> clear
[16:03] <erUSUL> !ask | ceo
[16:03] <cloversg> sorry sorin, not proficient with subversion
[16:04] <webroasters> i know this is not on topic, but does anyone know someone who can help me setting up my own channel on freenode??
[16:04] <erUSUL> webroasters: ask in #freenode
[16:04] <webroasters> ah lol, sry
[16:04] <webroasters> i didn't know that channel existed
[16:04] <webroasters> thx
[16:04] <cloversg> speedy = yup read that, and even the one that found the EFT-BIOS partition, tried that as well
[16:05] <jelly_> admin
[16:05] <d0lph1n> Hola a todos
[16:05] <erUSUL> !es | d0lph1n
[16:05] <sougata> Any one aware of a C channel ?
[16:05] <d0lph1n> alguien sabe como exportar todas las contraseñas que guarda Ubuntu (creo que se llama openssh)
[16:05] <Cody3290> If i already have Ubuntu installed, can I dual boot windows XP?
[16:06] <Atem18> yes you can
[16:06] <jelly_> yeah
[16:06] <Cody3290> How? Would I just put in the winXP cd?
[16:06] <Atem18> but it will be a little bit hard
[16:06] <Cody3290> ah
[16:06] <jwtiyar> how to mount erased usb memory card?
[16:06] <jelly_> grub can help you
[16:06] <Atem18> you will need to restore the MBR
[16:06] <SwedeMike> Cody3290: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[16:07] <lusmus> SwedeMike: hehe svennis?
[16:07] <speedy> cloversg: here is a good read on Grub2 heres link > http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html
[16:07] <jelly_> how could i use irc?
[16:07] <speedy> run it
[16:07] <cloversg> speedy - yes read that too.  Am trying hard to re-install grub2 via chroot, but not happening
[16:07] <parralelldreamz> hey anyone got a sec to help me ? or know how to fix the "No init found. Try passing init=bootarg." ubuntu problem?
[16:07] <lusmus> you can install irssi :p
[16:08] <lusmus> fun irc app.. that you can use in terminal
[16:08] <jelly_> oh no    i have run it
[16:08] <jelly_> but i donnot know how to use it better
[16:08] <cloversg> speedy - If I have a working raid5 system, any way you can tell what went correct?  Set up a similar system 2 months ago, but did not keep logs,  its still running and chekcing files and partitions, its exactly the same
[16:09] <speedy> if you have read all do not know what to say those sites should help if not send a bug report r send email for support to ubuntu
[16:09] <Cody3290> Damnit
[16:09] <Cody3290> Well, that sucks
[16:09] <Cody3290> >_>
[16:09] <hylian> is it true that 11.04 and beyond are going to automatically come with unity, a program for which my intense hatred burns?
[16:09] <FloodBot3> Cody3290: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:09] <speedy> boot flag set
[16:09] <Cody3290> Ah, sorry.
[16:10] <cloversg> boot flag set - that was the missing part when I created the md0, couldn't find that in the menu (I do remember the original one had that)
[16:10] <juk> hylian: you can use brasero :)
[16:10] <parralelldreamz> hey anyone got a sec to help me ? or know how to fix the "No init found. Try passing init=bootarg." ubuntu problem?
[16:10] <Cody3290> Is there a program I can make a windows partition on and only install to that partition that will not effect my Ubuntu?
[16:10] <cloversg> duplicating the system on VMs works, however not on the physical machine
[16:10] <Cody3290> NTFS rather
[16:10] <hylian> juk, unity is a desktop replacement, i.e. gnome, kde, xfce, etc... i can use brasero with unity..??
[16:10] <cloversg> System boots, and I get the grub prompt
[16:11] <hylian> !unity
[16:11] <oper_> Hi! I have set up 10.10 server. It was working great, now the system will not respond to its hostname on the local network whatsoever
[16:11] <cloversg> I remember that I had to change the boot parameters from UUID to dev but can't find where or when I ddi it
[16:11] <juk> hylian: it's not "end-user" ready yet
[16:12] <cloversg> oper - check resolv.conf and dns settings on your dns server, its probably not registered yet
[16:12] <hylian> can anyone confirm that the netbook edition will no longer be, and that unity will be shipped as the standard/
[16:12] <Dazzled> hi, is there a way to read out the HDD ID without being root ? :/
[16:12] <Dazzled> (as to ensure a program can only be run on certain systems)
[16:12] <hylian> juk, you're telling me. it's buggy, and refuses to let you change the theme, buttons on the right please...
[16:12] <SimonPHOENIX> somebody from sweden here?
[16:12] <Cody3290> Windows XP uses NFTS, correct?
[16:12] <oper_> resolv.conf looks fine, I haven't done anything dns related to it
[16:13] <cloversg> Dazzeled do a ls /dev/disk/by-uuid
[16:13] <compdoc> Cody3290, yes, mainly
[16:13] <compdoc> NTFS
[16:13] <Dazzled> cloversg: thx :)
[16:13] <Cody3290> Ah, sorry
[16:13] <cloversg> Dazzeled if you do a ll or ls -al you should see the mappings
[16:13]  * juk hatred on burning line
[16:13] <switch88> hey guys, im trying to make my dual monitor setup to work, ive installed the linux nvidia drivers, but when i try and use twinview i get a popupbox with this http://pastebin.com/0wiEPvN2
[16:13] <speedy> use gparted to check ur drive and partitions and check ur bootflag
[16:14] <Cody3290> So, could I not just use the program "KDE Partition Manager" to make an NTFS partition and install winXP on that?
[16:14] <oper_> is there a line I can add to resolv.conf to force it to respond to its name on the local network?
[16:14] <cloversg> speedy - better, I use gdisk and sgdisk - looks similar
[16:14] <speedy> ok
[16:14] <cloversg> can't find boot flag as it is raid 5 so md0 using mdadm
[16:14] <hylian> Cody3290, windows xp will remove grub and install it's own bootloader, rendering ubuntu not bootable.
[16:14] <cloversg> reading doc to see whether I can manually boot via gurb prompt
[16:14] <oCean> hylian: read here about unity and netbook edition for next ubuntu release: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/alpha3 Remember support etc for natty is in #ubuntu+1 channel
[16:15] <Dazzled> cloversg: and is there a way to integrate that into C++?
[16:15] <Cody3290> Oh.
[16:15] <hylian> oCean, thanks for the information.
[16:15] <speedy> I have setup raid long time back can't remember the exact settings but it worked
[16:15] <Cody3290> So I have to go through with the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot anyway.
[16:15] <cloversg> dazzled I remember seeing that in a book on C++ and Linux, but don't have it on me now, how about shelling to bash
[16:15] <oCean> hylian: no prob
[16:15] <parralelldreamz> hey anyone got a sec to help me ? or know how to fix the "No init found. Try passing init=bootarg." ubuntu problem?
[16:15] <compdoc> you can install XP on an existing NTFS partition if its done right, but XP likes to format and set it up
[16:16] <Dazzled> yeah, I'm learning shell, but I'm a real beginner at that
[16:16] <sougata> parralelldreamz, http://pinoy-computing-tips.blogspot.com/2010/08/how-to-fix-ubuntu-error-no-init-found.html
[16:16] <cloversg> speedy - It works on my other RAID5 system.  Was asked to duplicate it for a friend but just doesn't work this time.
[16:16] <Kruptein> hm odd,  I have this in my personal crontab  * * * * * /usr/bin/deditor     but the program never runs,   its' the only line in the crontab   so am I doing something wrong?
[16:16] <hylian> Cody3290, you have two options, a) install windows first, and then reinstall ubuntu b) learn how to reinstall grub yourself.
[16:16] <parralelldreamz> ty sougata :)
[16:16] <switch88> so ive tried and setup a dual monitor on my computer, BUT i get a popup saying this http://pastebin.com/0wiEPvN2 and =cant get it to work, halp plz
[16:16] <Cody3290> Hmm, I think I'll choose b. Thank you, hylian
[16:16] <sougata> parralelldreamz, yw
[16:16] <hylian> Cody3290, cool beans. that wasn't much help, but you can do it.
[16:17] <Roasted_> Hey guys - Can I create shortcut links to SMB:// locations on the desktop for my users? I'm used to windows where you can go to new - shortcut - \\server\share. How would I do that in Ubuntu?
[16:17] <cloversg> So far have only found 1 doc for 10.04 that confirms that it works for RAID0,1,5 with Grub2  the others say have a /boot partition
[16:17] <oper_> This is so infuriating! I'm going to have to set this server back up from scratch
[16:17] <oper_> Then god knows when it'll stop responding to its name again
[16:17] <cloversg> Roasted - Yes you can, do a mount
[16:17] <pare> hey guys need help on a simple matter
[16:17] <Roasted_> cloversg, can you elaborate a little more.
[16:17] <Cody3290> Yes, I figure, as long as I'm not 100% computer illiterate, I have a chance.
[16:18] <oper_> Nobody else has an idea?
[16:18] <Cody3290> I've sunk maybe three days into this ubuntu, I don't want to lose all that progress because I wanna dualboot XP.
[16:18] <cloversg> Roasted: let me do a check
[16:18] <speedy> cloversg: is this system just have a clean install? if so reset everything and go through the install when asked to load bootloader on system check tomake sure were and load there r take default should work look at other machine check those settings
[16:18] <Cody3290> Ah, I have another question - Will I be able to transfer files between the two while using one, or do I have to put it to a removfable storage device and then reboot?
[16:19] <cloversg> speedy - yes, have a script using sgdisk to clean out and zap everything both MBR and GPT, boots on a single drive, boots if I have a /boot that is not RAIDed
[16:19] <hylian> Cody3290, there is another option, if your machine has atleasta gig of ram, you could use a emulator like virtualbox. (some 3d games do not work for vbox yet)
[16:19] <Cody3290> I have 2gigs, but the games I want to play do not work or are buggy under vbox
[16:19] <Cody3290> I'd rather just dualboot
[16:20] <cloversg> Roasted:  do a mount -t smbfs ip-address:share /media/share-name and then access using the share-name
[16:20] <hylian> Cody3290, as far as the files are concerned, ubuntu can move files from ext4 to ntfs, for example, but windows can't. you can always opt for ext3 though, and then there is a program that let's windows access ext3 partitions.
[16:20] <oper_> Please, I need help with this that is not composed of 2 lines of vagueness
[16:21] <rob_p> oper_: What's up?
[16:21] <Roasted_> cloversg, I don't wnat to do the whole mount process. I want to add a shortcut to smb://server/share for ALL users to access. I need this to work with ZERO commands as my users are students and commands in this environment wont work.
[16:21] <Roasted_> cloversg, I just want a folder. a link. thats it.
[16:21] <loo0oola> plz how to install orcale 11g
[16:21] <oper_> rob_p, no matter what I do to this machine it absolutely will not respond to its hostname on the local network
[16:21] <cloversg> hmm, let me try with my system
[16:21] <Cody3290> k
[16:21] <oCean> loo0oola: wrong channel
[16:22] <Cody3290> One last thing (probably not, but hey, it's nice to dream) - Ubuntu Maverick Meerkat (10.10) runs Grub2, right?
[16:22] <Cody3290> uses Grub2, rather
[16:22] <pare> couldn't seem to enable visual effects on my ubuntu inside vmware even with vmware tools installed
[16:22] <rob_p> oper_: Is it a fqdn or just a local name?  Also, do you run local nameserver services?
[16:22] <hylian> Cody3290, correct. 10.10 and 10.04 use grub2
[16:22] <Cody3290> Great. Thanks, hylian :)
[16:22] <pare> couldn't seem to enable visual effects on my ubuntu inside vmware even with vmware tools installed, can anyone help?
[16:22] <hylian> Cody3290, no prob :)
[16:22] <oper_> rob_p, just a local name. And no it doesn't host a nameserver or shouldn't be
[16:23] <Ziber> What would be some causes of logging into Ubuntu 10.10 desktop, and continously being prompted to login again?
[16:23] <rob_p> oper_: I guess the question I have is, do you run a local nameserver with an entry that maps your host's name to an IP?
[16:23] <th0r> oper_: did you add the hostname to the hosts file in each computer?
[16:24] <oper_> No I didn't add it to the other machine's hosts file. It was working just great and then nada
[16:24] <pare> couldn't seem to enable visual effects on my ubuntu inside vmware even with vmware tools installed, please help anyone...
[16:24] <oCean> oper_: when using dns you can use 'nsupdate' to send host/ip info to dns server
[16:24] <oper_> There is no nameserver running on the local network
[16:24] <th0r> oper_: without a nameserver I think you will have to add it to the hosts file in every computer on the local network
[16:24] <oCean> oper_: No dsn? in that case there is no way to 'announce' your hostname on the local network
[16:24] <oCean> *dns
[16:24] <cloversg> Roasted:  used the Places>Connect to server Windows Share, created folder and it works
[16:24] <Roasted_> Why is it when I create a network share "bookmark" on the left side in Nautilus, if I mount it and unmount it, it renames it to "smb"? Total PITA.
[16:24] <Cody3290> OK, I lied about the last question thing.
[16:25] <Cody3290> When doing the instructions under "Recovery Using the Ubuntu Desktop/Live CD (RECOMMENDED)", this is before I install WinXP, right?
[16:25] <oper_> This is going nowhere. I'll just get solaris
[16:25] <rob_p> oper_: Ah, so you're probably relying on name services provided by a local samba server or similar.
[16:25] <ubuntu_> i have 2 questions: how to put menus back and how to archive a folder?
[16:25] <Abhijit> oper_, is solaris free of cost still?
[16:25] <pare> please help, how can i enable visual effect on this ubuntu inside vmware
[16:26] <oper_> I don't care if I have to pay for it, it doesn't have mystery issues like this
[16:26] <Abhijit> !compiz | pare
[16:26] <Cody3290> lol
[16:26] <th0r> oper_: when you go to solaris for help....make sure you tell them you will only accept answers you like
[16:26] <rob_p> oper_: Before you throw a tantrum and beat your head against the wall with Solaris, learn how systems find each other and establish communications between themselves.
[16:26] <jiltdil> ubuntu_: to archive a folde use tar -cvf foldername.tar /path
[16:27] <Cody3290> he left already
[16:27] <Cody3290> lol
[16:27] <cloversg> Roasted I remember an article on how to auto mount the folder with username/permissions by placing it in /etc/fstab
[16:28] <rob_p> wow!  He asks for help and then bails...
[16:28] <pare> couldn't seem to enable visual effects on my ubuntu inside vmware even with vmware tools installed, can anyone help?
[16:28] <Roasted_> cloversg, I'm sorry, but there has to be a better way.
[16:28] <Cody3290> Question: When insructions tell me to mount your Ubuntu partition from Places menu, I don't see it under there. Does that mean it's already mounted? Ubuntu is the only thing I have on this HDD
[16:28] <Roasted_> cloversg, I'm working with Ubuntu on a domain, so these systems will be logged in already with several users logging in each time without rebooting. /etc/fstab only applies to fresh boots, so that is not an option.
[16:28] <cloversg> Roasted: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/configure-a-system-to-automount-a-samba-share-with-etcfstab/
[16:29] <Roasted_> cloversg, appreciate it, but I can't do fstab.
[16:29] <Ziber> What would be some causes of logging into Ubuntu 10.10 desktop, and continously being prompted to login again?
[16:29] <ceo> hai all, am have install tuxcut on my ubuntu, how i remove it
[16:29] <cloversg> you could create a read-only share with anonymous mouts
[16:29] <Roasted_> cloversg, I don't want read only.
[16:29] <jiltdil> Ziber:bashrc
[16:29] <pare> couldn't seem to enable visual effects on my ubuntu inside vmware even with vmware tools installed, can anyone help?
[16:29] <pare> couldn't seem to enable visual effects on my ubuntu inside vmware even with vmware tools installed, can anyone help?
[16:29] <Cody3290> ceo, you can try using the Ubuntu Software Center
[16:29] <Roasted_> cloversg, I'm sorry to sound picky but I'm just trying to do a simple task, and oddly it looks hard as hell with Ubuntu.
[16:29] <Ziber> jiltdil: well, how to fix?
[16:29] <oCean> pare: stop repeating please
[16:29] <Roasted_> cloversg, appreciate your help though, but those ideas I already explored and they just won't work.
[16:29] <pare> oh sorry
[16:29] <cloversg> Ziber - I had that, i think I uninstalled something and got stuck at the login
[16:30] <Ziber> cloversg: how to fix?
[16:30] <ceo> can't remove to Cody3290
[16:30] <pare> i just thought i could get help here
[16:30] <jiltdil> Ziber: just edit bashrc u can find there logout  remove that
[16:30] <Cody3290> ceo sorry, then i can't help you o.o
[16:30] <ceo> am have error : BrokenCount >0 how do i fix it
[16:30] <Ziber> jiltdil: how am i supposed to do that if i cant login?
[16:30] <cloversg> Ziber - didn't fix, just logged in using the text mode and later re-installed the bloddy system.  There must be some solution
[16:30] <ceo> am have error : BrokenCount >0 how do i fix it
[16:30] <ceo> that fine Cody3290
[16:31] <jiltdil> Ziber: are u give someone to acess ur system via ssh
[16:31] <rob_p> pare: I've never had sucess with visual effects on a virtualized Ubuntu.  I'm guessing that vmware just doesn't support it.
[16:31] <Roasted_> Hey guys - Can I create shortcut links to SMB:// locations on the desktop for my users? I'm used to windows where you can go to new - shortcut - \\server\share. How would I do that in Ubuntu?
[16:31] <cloversg> check whether you can login via text console Ctrl-Alt-F1, I could so it means I uninstalled something to reduce size of os and that was the problem
[16:31] <Ziber> jiltdil: its a VM running on my laptop, so no.
[16:31] <ceo> am have error : BrokenCount >0 how do i fix it
[16:31] <ghc> I'm testing Natty in my laptop.. It looks fine, but for my desktop I'm not sure. I'm using two 24 inch monitor for my desktop.. today with gnome-shell.. I'm a little afraid that unity is not for big screens.. anybody testing it?
[16:32] <jiltdil> Ziber; are u this time login or not?
[16:32] <th0r> Roasted_: create the mount point in a common area and define a group for ownership of it.. Make each user a member of that group so they can have rw priv to the mount point
[16:32] <ubuntu_> so why GUI fails but tar from terminal works??
[16:32] <Roasted_> th0r, I'm working with Ubuntu on the domain, and since it'll be a network resource that sits on a windows server, permissions are already pre-defined that correspond with the user logged in with domain credentials.
[16:32] <Roasted_> th0r, the concern is, HOW do I create the link?
[16:33] <fisix> nmap finds rendezvous and and unmapped port on 9099. wat do?
[16:33] <th0r> Roasted_: the default home dir is in /etc/skel, but I am not sure if the Desktop folder is there or somewhere else
[16:33] <ret> jrib: i'm back
[16:33] <jiltdil> Ziber; which os r u using in vmware?
[16:33] <Roasted_> th0r, I'm well aware of that. I'm talking about *THE* network resource link though.
[16:33] <Iszak> What are the draw backs of using wubi over partioning?
[16:34] <ceo> hai how do i install gnome-shell on ubuntu 10.10
[16:34] <Roasted_> th0r, let's say the path on a windows server is \\skynet\users\public. On Ubuntu with Samba, that corresponds to SMB://skynet/users/public. Okay, great. HOW do I create that shortcut link though.
[16:34] <Roasted_> th0r, let's just say I want it on the desktop. How do I create it? I don't have a new - shortcut - *type in the path* option like I do on Windows.
[16:34] <oCean> ceo: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[16:35] <rob_p> fisix: Look to see what processes are bound to those ports.  If you didn't install them, something did and you might want to investigate...
[16:35] <th0r> Roasted_:  you don't have each user mount that link separately, you mount it in fstab, put it in maybe /home/media/resource or some such....
[16:35] <Roasted_> th0r, fstab will not work.
[16:35] <cloversg> Roasted: I managed to create a link using the Places>Connect to server
[16:35] <Roasted_> th0r, fstab mounts at login. These users will be logging in/out several times on the SAME boot.
[16:35] <Roasted_> th0r, mounts at boot*
[16:35] <fisix> rob_p, 9099 is unknown. how do i find out the processes bound to em?
[16:35] <ubuntu_> now how to put menus back??
[16:36] <llutz_> fisix: sudo lsof -i :9099
[16:36] <rob_p> fisix: sudo netstat -lpnut
[16:36] <cloversg> you only need to plut in the location of server, and the share
[16:36] <compdoc> how does several uses log in/out during boot?
[16:36] <cloversg> username and password are asked on prompt
[16:36] <fisix> whoa cool, thanks llutz and rob_p
[16:36] <Roasted_> cloversg, username and password are irrelevant in this case. Ubuntu is on the domain, so it authenticates to the domain user.
[16:36] <th0r> Roasted_: do you have a separate resource for each user? a separate smb ?
[16:36] <Roasted_> cloversg, the problem is, how do I create the link.
[16:37] <Roasted_> th0r, I just have a few public resources I want to add shortcuts to.
[16:37] <ceo> oCean=> thnks
[16:37] <Cody3290> Can anyone give me some help on how to dual boot XP and Ubuntu when installing XP after Ubuntu?
[16:37] <rob_p> fisix: welcome
[16:37] <cloversg> on the top menu, use Places, Connect to server, select Windows Share
[16:37] <Roasted_> th0r, my objective here is simple. I want a desktop folder. They click it. It opens up a folder on the Windows server.
[16:37] <Roasted_> cloversg, that wont work. I NEED a link on the desktop. Several links.
[16:37] <Cody3290> I understand that the Boot Manager thing gets overwritten, but I'm not exactly understanding How I am supposed to fix it. These instructions are kind of confusing
[16:37] <th0r> Roasted_: if they are public resources you can do it as I said.
[16:37] <Roasted_> th0r, with fstab?
[16:37] <compdoc> you mean map the share?
[16:37] <cloversg> yes then at the add bookmark (check), put in bookmark name, that is the link on the desktop
[16:38] <Roasted_> cloversg, what... give me a second, let me check this
[16:38] <antares_> hi  everybody i am looking for french server for ubuntu. Any idea
[16:38] <th0r> Roasted_: create a mountpoint, maybe /media/share, and mount it in fstab. Then put a link to /media/share in /etc/skel, and each already existing user
[16:38] <yeahyeahyeah> !fr | antares_
[16:38] <antares_> Ok c est sympas merci
[16:39] <fisix> whoa le francais
[16:39] <Roasted_> th0r, I really fail to see how fstab will work. fstab mounts at boot up. I need several mounts to happen with different users without rebooting.
[16:39] <Cody3290> lol
[16:39] <ubuntu_> now how to put menus back??
[16:39] <Roasted_> cloversg, this method you suggested requires me to save credentials with it. I don't want that.
[16:39] <yeahyeahyeah> antares_, also see my PM
[16:39] <Roasted_> why is this flipping simple thing so difficult in ubuntu
[16:39] <th0r> Roasted_: why can't they all use the same mountpoint?
[16:39] <gaurav_help> how i recover my deleted files from trash is there any way
[16:39] <cloversg> don't save the credentials, I didn't
[16:39] <Combatjuan> I have a broken postgresql package.  It is unconfigured and cannot be configured.  When I try to apt-get purge/remove it, the configure script tries to start postgres and fails then decides it can't be removed.
[16:40] <Combatjuan> How do I beat it into removing the package?
[16:40] <gts19> hi
[16:40] <cloversg> It prompts for my username etc.  if you wanted you could create a default user/default password
[16:40] <yeahyeahyeah> hi
[16:40] <fisix> hi
[16:40] <ranjan> hi all, any body here know some software that can be used for IT Asset Management?
[16:40] <fisix> ranjan, nmap?
[16:40] <Combatjuan> Postgres doesn't remove your data when uninstalled and I know it's trying to protect me from my own stupidity, but I just want it to go away.
[16:41] <Cody3290> couldn't I simply use gubi?
[16:41] <fisix> Cody3290, what's gubi?
[16:41] <Cody3290> maybe i spelled it wrong
[16:41] <Kruptein> Okay I tracked down the error why cron isn't working and I get:  Unable to access the X Display, is $DISPLAY set properly?
[16:41] <Cody3290> hold on, let me pop in my ubuntu disc
[16:41] <Kruptein> what should I do to solve this?
[16:42] <ret> my atheros does not work with ubuntu 8.10
[16:42] <Cody3290> Sorry, fisix, wubi.exe
[16:42] <Cody3290> not gubi
[16:42] <Cody3290> >.<
[16:42] <ret> i'd like to know if it'll work with ubuntu 10.10
[16:42] <ranjan> fisix, no i want to maintain a database and i also want a web interface
[16:42] <Cody3290> I have an atheros wireless card and it is working, ret
[16:42] <cloversg> Roasted: basically what you are doing is a mount -t smbfs with the folder, when you finish it does a unmount
[16:43] <ret> and if i want to continue use ubuntu 8.10 i can install driver
[16:43] <cloversg> Roasted: you could write a small bash script/gnome nautilus script using zenity for prompts and you are done
[16:43] <ret> compat wireless are correct?
[16:43] <jiltdil> how to make .zip file via command and how to unzip this?
[16:43] <fisix> Cody3290, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[16:43] <_cronus_> ret, I used to have an ath5k based card on my old laptop, and it worked without a problem from 9.10 on
[16:43] <ibm> cc
[16:43] <cloversg> jiltdil zip archive.zip *.jpg
[16:43] <ubuntu_> ...how to put menus back to windows??
[16:43] <fisix> ranjan, nessus?
[16:44] <jiltdil> thanx
[16:44] <cloversg> ubuntu_ are you on the right channel?? windows??
[16:44] <ret> cronus: ok but can i update my 8.10 version or i have to install th OS?
[16:44] <Combatjuan> Hmmm... nevermind my postgresql uninstall question.  I ran aptitude purge a few more times and eventually it must have decided to actually destroy the package.  Good aptitude.
[16:44] <Kruptein> cloversg: I think he means resetting global menu to normal menu
[16:45] <ghc> anybody testing unity (natty)?
[16:45] <cloversg> aha .....
[16:45] <ubuntu_> stop teasing me ffs
[16:45] <Cody3290> Can I use wubi if I am installing XP after I installed Ubuntu already to boot up Ubuntu?
[16:45] <_cronus_> ret, don't know... wasn't an ubuntu user back then (slackware)
[16:45] <ceo> how do i update gnome-shell with command
[16:45] <ceo> and how do clean my ubuntu junk
[16:46] <ceo> PLEASE need you help all !!! ASAP.!!!
[16:46] <Logan_> !please | ceo
[16:46] <rob_p> ret: You're better off to save your data and then do a fresh install.
[16:46] <fisix> !please
[16:47] <fisix> ohhh icic
[16:47] <cloversg> ubuntu_  use gconf-editor or see this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1278100
[16:47] <cloversg> ubuntu_ your question should be how to restore menus in nautilus
[16:47] <paralelldreamz> i just tried the  fsck /dev/sda1 command to try fix a boot problem "No init found. Try passing init=bootarg" e2fsck 1.41.12 (17-May-2010) fsck.ext4: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda1 Filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program? any ideas appreciated
[16:47] <ret> rob, i'll do it
[16:47] <ubuntu_> it's not nautilus it's every window
[16:48] <cloversg> well start with that, do you have a menu bar on the desktop?
[16:48] <Kruptein> okay anybody had the $DISPLAY problem with cron before? :s
[16:48] <ubuntu_> yes they are in top panel
[16:48] <cloversg> gconf-editor then apps > nautilus > preferences
[16:49] <rob_p> Kruptein: Is cron generally broken or just having trouble running a specific command?
[16:49] <llutz_> Kruptein: everyone trying to start X-apps from cron
[16:49] <Kruptein> rob_p:  I can't get to run a python gui
[16:49] <Kruptein> llutz_ do you have a work around?
[16:50] <llutz_> Kruptein: set DISPLAY
[16:50] <ceo> PLEASE need you help all !!! ASAP.!!!
[16:50] <Pumpkin-> running an X app from cron seems pretty wierd
[16:50] <Kruptein> !repeat | ceo
[16:50] <Cody3290> Can I use wubi to boot up ubuntu if I am installing XP after I installed Ubuntu already?
[16:50] <Kruptein> !please | ceo
[16:50] <cloversg> gconf-editor then apps > nautilus > preferences check start with toolbar
[16:51] <Kruptein> llutz_  I remember I did that in the past  but I don't remember anymore to what I needed to set it :D  $DISPLAY= ...  something with zeros and exclamation marks ? :f
[16:51] <ubuntu_> cloversg, it checked
[16:51] <llutz_> Kruptein: DISPLAY=:0
[16:51] <rob_p> Kruptein: example:   00 06 * * * env DISPLAY=:0 gui_appname
[16:51] <Kruptein> llutz_ thanks :)
[16:51] <Kruptein> rob_p: thanks too :D
[16:51] <cloversg> then when you start another window it should come up
[16:51] <rob_p> Kruptein: welcome
[16:52] <ubuntu_> another which window?? it's NOT ONLY nautilus!
[16:52] <leaveboy> Cody3290: yes
[16:52] <cloversg> all windows are handled by nautilus
[16:52] <fisix> in soviety russia, all nautilus are handled by windows
[16:53] <yeahyeahyeah> LMFAO
[16:53] <Cody3290> Then I won't need to repair the MBR?
[16:53] <oCean> fisix: don't start
[16:53] <Cody3290> IF i use Wubi?
[16:53] <fisix> :D
[16:53] <oCean> yeahyeahyeah: mind your language
[16:53] <yeahyeahyeah> ok oCean
[16:53] <lisandros> anyone can help a noob like me to fix a problem?
[16:53] <leaveboy> Cody3290: need to repair mbr
[16:53] <Roasted_> Thor^^, are you the same person as th0r?
[16:54] <Cody3290> Even if I use Wubi?
[16:54] <Cody3290> :(
[16:54] <ubuntu_> anyone honest in that channel: how to put menubars back to windows??? not some ass location they stick now?
[16:54] <AnubArack> latest compiz is 0.9.4 ?
[16:54] <rob_p> lisandros: Maybe.  But we can't read your mind! :)
[16:54] <Cody3290> Don't ask to ask, just ask
[16:54] <leaveboy> Cody3290: yes
[16:54] <cloversg> ubuntu_ you may need to restart gdm
[16:55] <cloversg> after checking the options
[16:55] <lisandros> rob_p,  i cant play youtube videos,cant use ma camera on skype and i cant play Heroes of newearth
[16:55] <Cody3290> leaveboy: In that case, how do I fix the MBR? Do I just stick in my ubuntu disk at startup?
[16:55] <ubuntu_> it's allready there dammit, you delusional
[16:55] <vsk_ram21> Dmesg output [ 16.607167] [Firmware Bug]: ACPI(VGA) defines _DOD but not _DOS
[16:55] <vsk_ram21> how do i fix this
[16:56] <lisandros> rob_p, a person helped me i change brower and for a while i could see the videos but now i cant see em again
[16:56] <rob_p> lisandros: Hmmm, I'm going to let someone else help you with that.  I only run Linux servers.  All my desktops/laptops are Mac.
[16:56] <lisandros> rob_p,  ok ty for hearing me
[16:57] <rob_p> lisandros: I'm guessing you just need the Flash plugin or something similar...
[16:57] <leaveboy> Cody3290: grub-install /dev/hda some like that
[16:57] <lisandros> rob_ i setted up this
[16:57] <Cody3290> How do I do that if I can't boot into ubuntu because MBR is broken?
[16:57] <lisandros> rob_p,  didnt worked
[16:57] <ceo> how do i run my gnome-shell ?
[16:58] <ceo> pleae
[16:58] <ceo> PLEASE need you help all !!! ASAP.!!!
[16:58] <ubuntu_> Cody3290, there's known procedure to reinstall grub from livecd
[16:58] <oCean> ceo: stop that
[16:58] <cloversg> cody3290 use a live cd
[16:58] <Cody3290> !please | ceo
[16:58] <paralelldreamz> when i run "fsck -y /dev/sda1" i get the message "e2fsck 1.41.12 (17-May-2010) fsck.ext4: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda1 Filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program?" is there anyway i can check what programs are using it , or how to kill the procecces using it?
[16:58] <rob_p> lisandros: Maybe google for Ubuntu and Flash.
[16:58] <lisandros> rob_p,  ma youtube says that i got a crush but i cant make it
[16:58] <fisix> does anybody know how to get the hacker evolution demo running? for some reason it just does a bunch of tests, then the checksums don't match so it quits...
[16:58] <Cody3290> LiveCD, huh?
[16:58] <ceo> oCean=> what i mush stop
[16:59] <Cody3290> I can't just use my phyiscal CD?
[16:59] <lisandros> rob_ i did
[16:59] <oCean> ceo: if you do not know how to behave in this channel, read this first: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[16:59] <lisandros> rob_ nothing happed:(
[16:59] <llutz_> !attitude | ceo
[16:59] <ceo> my english no to good oCean
[16:59] <fisix> ceo, your english no good
[16:59] <oCean> ceo: this is an english channel ceo.
[16:59] <oCean> !id | ceo
[17:00] <rob_p> lisandros: I see. Well, like I said, I only use Linux for my servers although I do have Ubuntu loaded up as a VM on my Macbook Pro.  Maybe I'll fire it up! :)
[17:00] <Tarantulafudge> how can I regenerate configuration files?
[17:00] <Cody3290> So using a phsyical cd is not the same as using a LiveCD?
[17:00] <fisix> whoa, cool!
[17:00] <ubuntu_> How to put menu bars back to windows??? not some ass location they stick to now?
[17:00] <fisix> !id | ceo
[17:00] <fisix> oh...
[17:00] <lisandros> rob_p,  thanke:)
[17:00] <oCean> fisix: don't do that
[17:00] <rob_p> lisandros: welcome, good luck!
[17:00] <oCean> !bot > fisix
[17:00] <lisandros> rob_p, ty
[17:01] <cloversg> ubuntu_ : To restore nautilus preferences to the default..i.e the ones that ship with ubuntu delete the /home/*yourusername*/.gconf/apps/nautilus folder and then log out and login again.
[17:01] <rob_p> Tarantulafudge: What sort of configuration files?
[17:01] <leaveboy> Cody3290: liveCD is a good chooice
[17:01] <Cody3290> =/
[17:01] <Tarantulafudge> rob_p, like my apache2 /etc/ configuration files
[17:01] <fisix> ohh i see oCean
[17:01] <Tarantulafudge> or asterisk
[17:01] <Cody3290> I don't think you are understanding my question
[17:01] <fisix> thought it was a universal command
[17:02] <ubuntu_> WHY NAUTILUS? stop baiting me!!
[17:02] <Cody3290> I'd rather not download it again, as my internet is very slow. I can't just use my physical ubuntu cd? I *must* use the LiveCD to fix the MBR
[17:02] <Roasted_> cloversg, got it. I just right clicked desktop and went to create launcher. then in the drop down selected location and added smb://server/share. bingo!
[17:02] <Cody3290> ?
[17:02] <oCean> ubuntu_: calm down please
[17:02] <ceo> PLEASE need you help all !!! ASAP.!!!
[17:02] <Cody3290> lol
[17:02] <rob_p> Tarantulafudge: The packages come with example files already.  Simply open them in a text editor, make your changes, save them, and reload the services. Simple! :)
[17:02] <fisix> LOL ceo
[17:02] <cloversg> Roasted_  that is the same as making a temp mount link, but must remember that, it is handy
[17:03] <Tarantulafudge> rob_p, how do I make a new example configuration
[17:03] <Tarantulafudge> rob_p, I want the defautl config
[17:03] <Roasted_> cloversg, appreciate your help bro
[17:03] <cloversg> no probs
[17:03] <ubuntu_> other trouble: if I installed grub2 in partition grub was, will grub survive??
[17:03] <lohmatii> quit
[17:03] <cloversg> ubuntu_ Nautilus is the windows manager
[17:03] <ubuntu_> cloversg, since when?
[17:03] <cloversg> presumably you are on gnome
[17:03] <ceo> fisix=> yes
[17:03] <Cody3290> *sigh*
[17:04] <rob_p> Tarantulafudge: Locate the example config (usually found bundled with the documentation) for the service and copy it to your, "working" location.
[17:04] <cloversg> ubuntu_  gawd!!!
[17:04] <Cody3290> Alright, if I'm not geting a decisive answer, can someone atleast answer me this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#Recovery%20Using%20the%20Ubuntu%20Desktop/Live%20CD%20(RECOMMENDED)
[17:04] <llutz_> ubuntu_: no, grub2 conflicts with grub-legacy
[17:04] <Cody3290> Is using a desktop CD the same as usin a LiveCD
[17:04] <Tarantulafudge> rob_p, is there no way to generate the default /etc/apache2 directory
[17:04] <Cody3290> ?
[17:04] <jiltdil> the indicator under which logout restart shut down etc is missing and when i restarts it comes again(i restarts using alt+ctrl+del) how to fix this and what's the actual probem
[17:04] <ubuntu_> llutz so now I will not boot??
[17:04] <rob_p> Tarantulafudge: Or, if you can't find a local copy, go to the 'Net and grab one.  Any editor will suffice for configuration.
[17:04] <red2kic> Cody3290: Yes.
[17:05] <ubuntu_> I thought window manager is compiz or metacity
[17:05] <Cody3290> Thank you.
[17:05] <red2kic> !livecd | Cody3290
[17:05] <rob_p> Tarantulafudge: What happened to the one that was installed by default?
[17:05] <Tarantulafudge> rob_p, got deleted by accident
[17:05] <rob_p> Tarantulafudge: I see.  Well, you could probably just reinstall Apache2 to get it back.
[17:05] <cloversg> ubuntu_ what version of ubuntu are you running
[17:06] <Cody3290> Oh.
[17:06] <jiltdil> any sol to my q?
[17:06] <red> g
[17:06] <ubuntu_> cloversg, 10-10
[17:06] <Cody3290> Thank you, red2kic
[17:06] <tan> hi
[17:06] <ceo> how i run gnome-shell on my ubuntu, am have install it
[17:06] <samtatr> hi
[17:06] <samtatr> Hello?
[17:07] <llutz_>  18:03 < cloversg> ubuntu_ Nautilus is the windows manager  <- nonsense,  nautilus is a file-manager
[17:07] <tan> hello
[17:07] <Abhijit> hi samtatr
[17:07] <tan> hh
[17:07] <samtatr> I'm having a spot of bother with OSS on Ubuntu
[17:07] <samtatr> Anyone know anything about this?
[17:07]  * ubuntu_ goes for reboot
[17:07] <oCean> !details | samtatr
[17:08] <gildas> Bonjour
[17:08] <Abhijit> what is spot of bother?
[17:08] <samtatr> one sec
[17:08] <leaveboy> blistt
[17:08] <cloversg> ubuntu_ check this site, it has something to reset your "windows" http://www.beakkon.com/geek/10-best-applications-for-ubuntu-10.10
[17:08] <Daboone72> Greetings can you use an Ubuntu 10.10 CD as an update-cd to save download time I got a free one with my Linux Magazine.
[17:08] <cloversg> llutz - I stand corrected,
[17:08] <samtatr> Yes you can
[17:08] <samtatr> Boot into the cd, and choose upgrade
[17:08] <tan> uhm
[17:09] <samtatr> OK?
[17:09] <Cody3290> Can I plug in my HP Officejet J4680 All-in-one and it will work just like that?
[17:09] <Tarantulafudge> rob_p, I can't seem to generate the original config
[17:09] <red2kic> Daboone72: I believe so. Plop in the disc. The update manager should pop up.
[17:09] <tan> hello
[17:09] <red2kic> Daboone72: I could be wrong. May require ALT disc.
[17:09] <samtatr> Cody - no you cant. You need to add it in the System>Administration>Printers menu
[17:09] <rob_p> Tarantulafudge: Do you have anything you are worried about losing within Apache's directories?
[17:09] <red2kic> !alt | Daboone72
[17:09] <Tarantulafudge> rob_p, no
[17:09] <red2kic> Daboone72: "also can be used as an upgrade CD."
[17:09] <llutz_> cloversg: and 2nd: those other things are called "window manager", without s (important) ;)
[17:10] <nestea> how do I combine split rar files through console?
[17:10] <nestea> would lxsplit do it?
[17:10] <rob_p> Tarantulafudge: Then do, "sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2"
[17:10] <llutz_> nestea: unrar e foo.rar
[17:10] <nestea> k
[17:10] <cloversg> llutz_ only realised that when he said compiz and metacity, I'm still on 8.04
[17:11] <Daboone72> Mind you I suppose I won't have to upgrade 1800+ packages again so perhaps I will do it across the net
[17:11] <samtatr> can i make fullscreen windows have rounded corners?
[17:11] <rob_p> Tarantulafudge: After it finishes, then do, "sudo apt-get install apache2"
[17:11] <lusmus> hmm, why are they minimal.. altanative cds?
[17:11] <Tarantulafudge> rob_p, thanks thats what I needed
[17:11] <rob_p> Tarantulafudge: welcome
[17:11] <Daboone72> Thanks ubottu red2ic though that's nice to know
[17:11] <amin_> I have ubuntu x64 10.10 and by install I creat swap and I have install ubuntu 3days ago
[17:11] <ugliefrog> how do i mount a directory on a pc on my network... me box a wants to have box b directory mounted so box a can access it
[17:11] <amin_> do I need swapon -a
[17:12] <samtatr> Does anyone know if I can round corners on fullscreen windows
[17:12] <red2kic> amin_: It's already enabled if you installed it using automatic method provided by installer.
[17:12] <AnubArack> anyone know why I get this error ? http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/4k8ge4k5/Selection_001.png
[17:12] <oCean> amin_: run swapon -s to see your in-use swap space
[17:12] <samtatr> Smeep
[17:12] <guntbert> !repeat | samtatr
[17:13] <Cody3290> OpenOffice froze after trying to copy and paste something into it
[17:13] <samtatr> IRC is awesome
[17:13] <amin_> swapon -s
[17:13] <amin_> Filename				Type		Size	Used	Priority
[17:13] <amin_> /dev/sda2                               partition	4094972	92	-1
[17:13] <cloversg> well gotta go, its been fun
[17:13] <oCean> amin_: there it is
[17:13] <Logan_> !pastebin | amin_
[17:13] <ikonia> amin_: please use a pastebin
[17:14] <Logan_> ikonia: I beat you :D
[17:14] <lusmus> hmm, why are they minimal.. altanative cds?
[17:14] <samtatr> Anyone need any help?
[17:14] <amin_> oCean: is it enabled
[17:14] <ceo> PLEASE need you help all !!! ASAP.!!!
[17:14] <ikonia> samtatr: if they did, they would ask
[17:14] <Logan_> !please | ceo
[17:14] <ikonia> ceo: then ask a question
[17:14] <oCean> amin_: yes
[17:14] <Logan_> ubottu lag?
[17:14] <guntbert> lusmus: I don't understand your question
[17:15] <amin_> ocean when it will be used?
[17:15] <samtatr> !repeat
[17:15] <AnubArack> !attitude
[17:15] <leaveboy> ubottu: u bot tu
[17:15] <lusmus> guntbert: what is the diffrent from all these cds.. like minimal and altanave cds?
[17:15] <leaveboy> !repeat
[17:16] <ikonia> enough messing with the bot now
[17:16] <tzaeru> random question, how long is "Calculating the changes" when using the distro update GUI supposed to take?
[17:16] <Logan_> !botabuse | leaveboy
[17:16] <lusmus> ubottu: you maybe are AI programmed? :o
[17:16] <oCean> leaveboy: Anubisss please stop calling the bot
[17:16] <oCean> Logan_: you don't need to use the bot for everything..
[17:16] <Logan_> oCean: I don't
[17:17] <oCean> amin_: there are several commands to see how much of your swap is used. For example 'free' For more info see (for example) http://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/8208-all-about-linux-swap-space
[17:17] <red2kic> lusmus: Minimal = 12MB iso. You start with console. You install what you want.
[17:17] <guntbert> lusmus: the alternate CD provides a text based installer and the possibility to upgrade from CD
[17:17] <red2kic> !alt | lusmus
[17:17] <red2kic> !mini | lusmus
[17:17] <Wouterdt> I've got a Debian 6 server running with an mdadm raid 5 array (4 disks) will I be able to access this array when I install Ubuntu 10.04 server?
[17:18] <lusmus> i just want a clean install :)
[17:18] <amin_> ocean thanks
[17:18] <ikonia> Wouterdt: yes, just assemble the array
[17:18] <Wouterdt> ikonia: thnx
[17:18] <oCean> amin_: welcome!
[17:18] <red2kic> lusmus: Some people prefer to avoid metapackages (such as ubuntu-desktop) that would pull in more-than-essential packages.
[17:19] <guntbert> lusmus: then use the live CD (you can try the system before installing)
[17:19] <red2kic> lusmus: ALT Disc or Desktop CD will do fine. Go for LiveCD if you're newcomer.
[17:19] <lusmus> guntbert: already did that.. the thing is that i what crame out all the juice from the ubuntu.. so i get left with the scale :p
[17:20] <gakhan> where they put control panel in new ionsterface?
[17:20] <guntbert> lusmus: sorry, I again didn't understand ...
[17:21] <lusmus> guntbert: hehe i meant.. that what rid of all programmes that goes with ubuntu..?
[17:21] <nedrlandr> Hey, I just asked on #freedroid that it would be nice if the 14.1 version of that game could be installed from "install/remove apllications". They kindly told me to ask a debian maintainer. Any debian maintainers around here?
[17:21] <ceo> how i can fix this error on wine : The file '/media/9E80F9D280F9B0BF/Windows Applikasi/Dreamware/Adobe.Dreamweaver.CS5.Lite.Portable/Dreamweaver.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[17:21] <oCean> nedrlandr: even if so, it would be offtopic for this channel
[17:22] <jiltdil> my firefx is unable to open a single site why as it opens all other except a single site and from other comp it is opening why?
[17:22] <guntbert> lusmus: if you want to determine yourself what should be installed then the minimal CD is the best way
[17:22] <ceo> how i can fix this error on wine : The file '/media/9E80F9D280F9B0BF/Windows Applikasi/Dreamware/Adobe.Dreamweaver.CS5.Lite.Portable/Dreamweaver.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[17:22] <lusmus> guntbert: ok thx :)
[17:22] <oCean> ceo: stop please
[17:22] <gakhan> ceo, mount volume manually with exec option
[17:22] <ceo> how i can fix this error on wine : The file '/media/9E80F9D280F9B0BF/Windows Applikasi/Dreamware/Adobe.Dreamweaver.CS5.Lite.Portable/Dreamweaver.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[17:22] <Cody3290> lol
[17:22] <nedrlandr> Ocean, then where should I go?
[17:22] <lusmus> ceo: try type wine in a terminal and drag the file into the terminal and press enter
[17:23] <jiltdil> i have checked  /etc/hosts
[17:23] <gakhan> where can I find CONTROL PANEL now?
[17:23] <jiltdil> any so; to my prob
[17:23] <IdleOne> gakhan: what is the control panel?
[17:23] <red2kic> gakhan: Anything under System! Look up with your beautiful eyes!
[17:23] <Cody3290> I accidentally hid my printer icon on the taskbar thing top right, what can I do to get it back?
[17:24] <root_> lol
[17:24] <gakhan> IdleOne, the stuff that was in system/configuration menu
[17:24] <racoon> hii
[17:24] <dani117> hi
[17:24] <IdleOne> gakhan: there is a lot of stuff in that menu. which verision of ubuntu are you running?
[17:24] <IdleOne> version*
[17:25] <gakhan> 10-10
[17:25] <racoon> 8.04
[17:25] <ubuntu_> hello
[17:25] <ubuntu_> im boot
[17:25] <guntbert> racoon:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[17:25] <IdleOne> gakhan: netbook or regular ubuntu?
[17:25] <racoon> regular
[17:25] <ubuntu_> were is anonymous irc chanel?
[17:26] <samtatr> anyone know any good themes?
[17:26] <gakhan> IdleOne, from desktop iso
[17:26] <ikonia> ubuntu_: there isn't one
[17:26] <IdleOne> !themes
[17:26] <thevishy> what do you mean anonymouse ?
[17:26] <ubuntu_> why
[17:26] <racoon> i am having problem with via unichrome driver
[17:26] <ubuntu_> ?
[17:26] <speedy> gnome-art
[17:26] <leaveboy> samtatr: macubuntu
[17:26] <racoon> it's s***
[17:26] <ikonia> ubuntu_: this channel is for ubuntu support discussion, please try to keep to that
[17:26] <red2kic> samtatr: shiki
[17:26] <IdleOne> gakhan: I am trying to understand if the Applications menu is missing or are the items in the menu missing?
[17:26] <ubuntu_> ok, rigcht
[17:26] <ikonia> racoon: drop the language
[17:27] <gakhan> IdleOne, gnome is missing, there are some new shell with icons on the left
[17:27] <thraspic> Does anyone here use the GLtext screensaver?  I'm looking for similar screensavers that are text oriented.  Any suggestions?
[17:27] <IdleOne> gakhan: ok. Click on the Ubuntu logo in the top left corner
[17:28] <gakhan> IdleOne, dark rectangle appeared
[17:28] <speedy> is here a tool r app to save system wide changes like Cursor - Theme overall settings and look and feel
[17:28] <racoon> hey could anyone help out there for unichrome driver in ubuntu 8.04
[17:28] <IdleOne> gakhan: from there you can search for what you want
[17:28] <ikonia> racoon: in what respect, as you know it has poor support
[17:28] <racoon> yep
[17:28] <samtatr> Does anyone know howto make fullscreen windows have rounded corners?
[17:28] <gakhan> IdleOne, from where? it's empty
[17:28] <ikonia> samtatr: find a theme with round corners
[17:28] <red2kic> samtatr: Pick a different theme or fork from a theme you so much like.
[17:28] <IdleOne> gakhan: there is a search box at the top
[17:29] <leaveboy> thraspic: scrot
[17:29] <samtatr> no, a FULLSCREEN window
[17:29] <ikonia> samtatr: yes, find a theme
[17:29] <Chaorain> Does anyone know of alternative for OneNote in Ubuntu? Specifically the "inking" feature, i.e. writing with a tablet. I don't care about the other features.
[17:30] <samtatr> Evernote under wine isn't bad
[17:30] <samtatr> Dont know if it is what you are looking for
[17:30] <axscode> hi guys, can someone point me how to do dual monitor swapping/shifting with hotkey like Fn-key + Dual monitor selection on Nvidia Grfx card
[17:31] <fisix> hey, does anybody know how to customize what programs appear when you right click a file (e.g., a shellscript)?
[17:31] <red2kic> CharlieSu: You might want to ask inkscape channel. It's not exactly helpful but some of them probably work with tablets.
[17:31] <Guest85862> #quit
[17:31] <Chaorain> samtatr: Basicly I have a tablet and want to be able to write with it
[17:31] <red2kic> Chaorain: See ^
[17:31] <Chaorain> red2kic: ty
[17:31] <samtatr> Chaorain: I dont know then. It would be nice to find it though
[17:34] <samtatr> Hallo, Ich bin Sam
[17:34] <leaveboy> what's the time?
[17:34] <ikonia> samtatr: stop messing around you've had enough warnings
[17:34] <ikonia> leaveboy: it's different in every country, look at a local clock
[17:34] <el_loco> hello
[17:34] <el_loco> i have a list of files that match a regex, im using "ls | grep regexp" to get them, but how can i pipe/redirect this list into cp/mv to move the files into a folder?
[17:35] <ikonia> el_loco: a for loop
[17:35] <el_loco> i'm looking for an inline cmd option
[17:35] <thraspic> leaveboy: missed your message, thanks i'll look at scrot
[17:35] <el_loco> one command in bash
[17:35] <andreas_> scrot is awesome
[17:36] <ikonia> el_loco: you'll have to use a for loop
[17:36] <leaveboy> el_loco: ls | grep regexp > /home/file.txt
[17:36] <ikonia> leaveboy: re-read what he said
[17:37] <Dmarkmkm> hey guys a quick question, can I install ubuntu WITHOUT nouveau?
[17:37] <ikonia> Dmarkmkm: not without it, but you can disable it
[17:37] <gakhan> is there a way to attach menus back to windows?
[17:37] <Dmarkmkm> ikonia: I have everything but the thing isnt going away
[17:37] <IdleOne> gakhan: not in Ubuntu with Unity shell
[17:37] <Kaedenn> When using apt-get install, is there a way to automagically select the recommended packages, rather than going back and typing apt-get install again?
[17:38] <IdleOne> gakhan: you can select your session type at login. Click on the session button and select Classic Desktop.
[17:38] <hayz> MDAC link is not working on winetricks...anyone has figured this out?
[17:38] <el_loco> in one command: find . -regex "regexp" -type f -exec cp '{}' /copy/to/here/'{}'
[17:39] <ikonia> hayz: ask the winetricks guys, it's not an ubuntu product
[17:39] <rijndael> anyone else having problems with libc-2.11.1.so after last upgrade?
[17:39] <ikonia> el_loco: you didn't say you wanted to use find, you said you wanted to pipe the output of ls | grep regex
[17:39] <lusmus> how do i install without need to type my password all the time? :p
[17:39] <Dmarkmkm> so how can I remove nouveau altogether?
[17:39] <leaveboy> ikonia: you are right!
[17:39] <gakhan> IdleOne, classic desktop means gnome? why I was put in this gaudy c..p instead?
[17:39] <axscode> hi guys, can someone point me how to do dual monitor swapping/shifting with hotkey like Fn-key + Dual monitor selection on Nvidia Grfx card
[17:40] <Snakkah> Hi. I have a question. I looked at the "Computer" tab in Nautilus and right-clicked on my file system and went to Properties. It shows that there is 128.2 TB of space taken up in a 250 GB hard drive. How is this possible? Here's the screenshot of it: http://oi55.tinypic.com/qyb6nd.jpg
[17:40] <rob_p> el_loco: for i in `ls | egrep 'regexp'`; do cp $i /some/path; done
[17:40] <IdleOne> gakhan: I don't know, depends which iso you used to install.
[17:41] <Dmarkmkm> nobody? Can u guys at least give me a link where I can learn how to get rid of this nouveau?
[17:41] <andreas_> Snakkah, which themes did you use for gtk and the icons?
[17:41] <ikonia> Dmarkmkm: open the package manager, remove it
[17:42] <Dmarkmkm> ikonia: I already did that. The module keeps loading at startup
[17:42] <codemagician> can anyone tell me what the 2nd column is in ls -l long listing output..?
[17:42] <Snakkah> andreas_, I just modified the Ambience theme.
[17:42] <fisix> hey, does anybody know how to customize what programs appear when you right click a file (e.g., a shellscript)?
[17:42] <ikonia> Dmarkmkm: that's a kernel module, you removed the xorg component most probably, the kernel module on it's own should do nothing, however you can black list the module
[17:42] <Snakkah> andreas_, changed the color of the windows, input boxes, icons, etc.
[17:43] <IdleOne> Dmarkmkm: sudo apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia for more information.
[17:43] <ikonia> fisix: that's a real limitaion in gnome, it's not easy to customise the right click menu
[17:43] <codemagician> can anyone tell me what the 2nd column is in ls -l long listing output..?
[17:43] <ikonia> codemagician: man ls
[17:43] <Dmarkmkm> thanks
[17:43] <codemagician> ikonia, its not in the man page.  its an integer number but im not sure what it represents
[17:43] <k> hey, how can i change the channel?
[17:44] <IdleOne> k: /join #newchannel
[17:44] <Guest64688> ty
[17:44] <fisix> thanks ikonia! i'm just wondering why notepad under wine comes up... so inefficient to edit a text file like that!
[17:44] <jemmy> hae
[17:44] <thraspic> leaveboy: you mentoned scrot as a screensaver, but when I look it up I can only find a screen capture utility or a window manager
[17:44] <cinnabarisland12> R3090BC4 hardware works under Lucid but won't connect to network, keeps asking for WPA key which I know is right, help anyone?
[17:44] <ikonia> codemagician: it's file type,
[17:44] <cinnabarisland12> *Rt3090BC4
[17:45] <jemmy> ikonia
[17:45] <CharlieSu> Hi,  I'm running a long running command inside of a bash script but the output of the long running command doesn't get displayed to stdout until the command is finished?  How can I have its output displayed to STDOUT from within the script like it would if I ran the command from the shell.?
[17:45] <badpenguin86> In Unity, my windows are not getting "decorated", and they show up in the top leftmost corner of the screen. How do I fix it?
[17:45] <tzaeru> so scared atm. removing all applications pulled from different ppa's
[17:45] <ikonia> jemmy: yes ?
[17:45] <tzaeru> as upgrading to 11.04 failed
[17:45] <tzaeru> probably due to those
[17:45] <codemagician> ikonia, its a number
[17:45] <ikonia> codemagician: yes, and it represents a file type in binary
[17:45] <codemagician> ikonia, and there are different numbers on various directories
[17:45] <IdleOne> badpenguin86: that is how it is meant to be
[17:46] <hayz> can KDevelop able to compile source from MSVC++? is there other IDE we compile MSVC++ sources?
[17:46] <codemagician> ikonia, where did you get the info for this please?
[17:46] <jemmy> origin from which ikonia
[17:46] <badpenguin86> IdleOne, But they appear underneath the top bar and I cannot access them
[17:46] <ikonia> codemagician: items in the directory
[17:46] <cinnabarisland12> RT3090BC4 hardware works under Lucid but won't connect to network, keeps asking for WPA key which I know is right, help anyone?
[17:46] <IdleOne> badpenguin86: hover over the top panel with your mouse and the menus will appear
[17:46] <codemagician> ikonia, it doesn't correspond
[17:47] <codemagician> ikonia, i tried testing it and putting number of items in directory
[17:47] <ikonia> codemagician: it matches up perfectly on mine
[17:48] <codemagician> ikonia, by items.. do you mean sub-directories?
[17:49] <leaveboy> thraspic: i mis you mean
[17:49] <ikonia> codemagician: directories are seen as an object yes
[17:49] <codemagician> ikonia, I made a directory called "test" and it has a number of 2 to start out.  I added a file and the number is the same
[17:49] <ikonia> codemagician: yes, it contains two objects, . and ..
[17:49] <codemagician> ikonia, but when I add a sub-directory it goes up by +!
[17:50] <badpenguin86> IdleOne, I don't I explained it well, here is a pic http://ubuntuone.com/p/hFZ/
[17:50] <codemagician> ikonia, okay so . and .. and another sub-directory made 3.  but files inside don't count?
[17:50] <cinnabarisland12> RT3090BC4 hardware works under Lucid but won't connect to network, keeps asking for WPA key which I know is right, help anyone?
[17:50] <thraspic> leaveboy: is scrot a screensaver of some kind?
[17:51] <red2kic> !info scrot | thraspic
[17:51] <ikonia> codemagician: no, if you look at files, they have a "1" next to them as they are 1 object
[17:51] <IdleOne> badpenguin86: yes, that is how Unity is meant to look. if you bring your mouse up to the top panel "bar" do you see the menu?
[17:51] <red2kic> thraspic: "command line screen capture utility" -- typing "scrot" in the terminal will get you a screenshot.
[17:51] <leaveboy> thraspic: scrot is a screenshot
[17:51] <thraspic> yeah, thats what i found, though my question was about screensavers not screen capture.
[17:51] <codemagician> ikonia, if I create a directory called "test" and do ls -l it says 2.  if I add 50 files in there, it still says 2
[17:52] <codemagician> ikonia, so i guess all files have 1
[17:52] <iceroot> codemagician: the number means hardlinks
[17:52] <fisix> ikonia, so can we customize what programs appear in Open With for certain file types?
[17:53] <rekenber> can I ask how to connect irc.gnome.org in x-chat?
[17:53] <iceroot> rekenber: /connect irc.gnome.org
[17:53] <codemagician> iceroot, thanks
[17:55] <asif> auto save ubuntu work?
[17:55] <rekenber> iceroot: can't connect: it says not an IRC operator
[17:55] <rekenber> sorry a bit noobish one here :P
[17:55] <Camarata> rekenber, can try /server irc.gnome.org
[17:55] <IdleOne> rekenber: /server irc.gnome.org
[17:55] <kimimben_009> Is there any way (option) to set VLC to start always on minimize GUI ? I always use VLC for every media type. Because of that when i open VLC to listen musics, i need to minimize the GUI of VLC with mouse everytime if last time i have watched any video on VLC...
[17:55] <mneptok> rekenber: not "connect" but "server"
[17:56] <JuJuBee> How do I figure out what /dev my serial port is using so I can use minicom to connect to console port on a switch?
[17:57] <jarleb_> I've copied a /home folder to an external hd and reinstalled my friends laptop - but I can't change the owner of the files on the external hd, befor I copy them
[17:57] <mneptok> jarleb_: what filesystem does the external HD use?
[17:57] <Photocopy> ...
[17:58] <leaveboy> JuJuBee: /dev/ttyUSBX X is num
[17:58] <gakhan> don't tell me I cannot have taskbar in unity too??
[17:58] <andreas_> in my experience /dev/ttyUSB0 is most likely
[17:58] <Photocopy> I set my computer to log into my (the only) user accountt automatically on startup. Now, I get prompted a total of four consecutive times to enter my password to unlock the keyring on startup. How can I make it just ask me once?
[17:58] <JuJuBee> leaveboy: but the serial port is not USB, it is standard db9 com port
[17:58] <leaveboy> JuJuBee: of course I mean you using  USB
[17:58] <jarleb_> mneptok, fat32
[17:59] <mneptok> jarleb_: FAT32 has no concept of file ownership
[17:59] <leaveboy> JuJuBee: and it must start with tty
[17:59] <HeIsRisen> what shell am I in when I open a terminal with 10.10?
[17:59] <ledbettj> JuJuBee: check /dev/ttyS<num>
[17:59] <rob_p> JuJuBee: /dev/ttySx where x is the com port number
[17:59] <ugliefrog> how do i mount a directory on a pc on my network... me box a wants to have box b directory mounted so box a can access it
[17:59] <mneptok> HeIsRisen: echo $SHELL
[17:59] <jarleb_> mneptok, thanks -
[17:59] <_cronus_> JuJuBee, is it a usb connection?
[17:59] <bob__525> how can I change drive (linux terminal) to sdb?
[17:59] <leaveboy> HeIsRisen: gnome-termal
[17:59] <HeIsRisen> mneptok tried it ... but it doesn't return anything
[18:00] <[TK]D-Fender> bob__525: what does "change drive" mean?
[18:00] <HeIsRisen> leaveboy where do find the RC file for it?
[18:00] <JuJuBee> 0-4
[18:00] <JuJuBee> rob_p: thanks, now I just need to figure out which one it is...
[18:00] <Photocopy> I set my computer to log into my (the only) user account automatically on startup. Now, I get prompted a total of four consecutive times to enter my password to unlock the keyring on startup. How can I make it just ask me once?
[18:00] <mneptok> HeIsRisen: chsh
[18:00] <rob_p> JuJuBee: Should be pretty easy.  It's likely /dev/ttyS0 though.
[18:00] <HeIsRisen> mneptok that is the terminal I am using or gnome-terminal?
[18:01] <leaveboy> HeIsRisen: right click per
[18:01] <jarleb_> mneptok, Then I copy them to a folder in /home and chown ?
[18:01] <bob__525> TKD-Fender: change from sda to sdb on listing
[18:01] <mneptok> HeIsRisen: gnome-terminal is a GUI app. it has no bearing on what shell you use.
[18:01] <mneptok> jarleb_: correct
[18:01] <leaveboy> JuJuBee: most like the big
[18:01] <HeIsRisen> mneptok ... is there a way to get bash?
[18:01] <librarat> I'm trying to run a dd_rescue on a drive that is part of a windows raid0 array.  The drive has experienced SMART failure, so I need to image it to reimage to a new drive. That being said, I have the drive hooked up to my laptop via a USB->SATA adapter, and linux isn't seeing the raid drive. Why/what can I do to fix this so I can image it?
[18:02] <mneptok> HeIsRisen: Ubuntu uses bash by default
[18:02] <domjohnson> Sorry to spam...but here is a petition on having a no-fly zone in Libya - https://secure.avaaz.org/en/libya_no_fly_zone_1/
[18:02] <HeIsRisen> So where is the rc file for it? trying to adjust the path for something
[18:02] <[TK]D-Fender> [13:01]	<bob__525>	TKD-Fender: change from sda to sdb on listing <- What listing?
[18:02] <mneptok> HeIsRisen: ~/.bashrc
[18:03] <HeIsRisen> I don't see it in root
[18:03] <mneptok> HeIsRisen: why do you want to change root's bashrc?
[18:03] <Cody3290> My printer will not print
[18:03] <HeIsRisen> So I can use ADB from any directory within terminal
[18:03] <[TK]D-Fender> librarat: "the drive"?  a single drive out of a RAID 1 array is useless
[18:04] <Cody3290> i checked and my version of hplip or w/e is compatable with it
[18:04] <kimimben_009> Is there any way (option) to set VLC to start always on minimize GUI ? I always use VLC for every media type. Because of that when i open VLC to listen musics, i need to minimize the GUI of VLC with mouse everytime if last time i have watched any video on VLC...
[18:04] <mneptok> HeIsRisen: "ADB?"
[18:04] <librarat> [TK]D-Fender: Why? I can't even image is sector by secor? I DO NOT want to mount it.
[18:04] <leaveboy> JuJuBee: /dev/ttyS will be you want
[18:04] <gakhan> how to RESTART compiz??
[18:04] <[TK]D-Fender> librarat: then you should be able to "dd" it from one to another.
[18:04] <HeIsRisen> android debug bridge
[18:05] <bob__525> [TK]D-Fender: linux command window - I want to look at 'New Volume' (sdb)
[18:05] <mneptok> HeIsRisen: adding it to root's environment will not help your user
[18:05] <librarat> [TK]D-Fender: Not if Linux won't even see the drive :)  How can I get ubuntu to see the drive at all?
[18:05] <jaympo_> domjohnson, check my PM
[18:05] <mneptok> HeIsRisen: and you can add PATH statements in .bashrc, .bash-Profile, or other environment files
[18:06] <mneptok> s/P/p/
[18:06] <[TK]D-Fender> librarat: Hrmmm..
[18:06] <linux-noob> how to evolution minimize to tray when closed ubuntu 10.10
[18:06] <qba> menu....exit?
[18:06] <HeIsRisen> Wow, will have to come back later for more help. That messed me all up.
[18:07] <gakhan> how to RESTART compiz?
[18:07] <linuxNoob> how to evolution minimize to tray when closed ubuntu 10.10
[18:07] <rob_p> HeIsRisen: You developing android apps?
[18:07] <HeIsRisen> I was told I had to... create new udev rules so the device node is created with proper permissions / add my binary path to my shells rc file
[18:07] <kimimben_009>  linuxNoob: research for alltray ...
[18:07] <jarleb_> every norwegian specific letter has been corrupted in copying from an external hd to /home - can I run a for in sentence to change all % letters in a filename into ø?
[18:08] <HeIsRisen> rob_p I am trying to learn to do some theme stuff and use eventually learn to develop
[18:08] <kimimben_009> gakhan:  "killall compiz" and than "compiz"
[18:08] <HeIsRisen> familiar with Java, but I just switched to linux recently ... so this is all new to meh
[18:08] <kimimben_009> Is there any way (option) to set VLC to start always on minimize GUI ? I always use VLC for every media type. Because of that when i open VLC to listen musics, i need to minimize the GUI of VLC with mouse everytime if last time i have watched any video on VLC...
[18:08] <_cronus_> librarat, have you checked the kernel message log after you connect the drive?
[18:09] <gakhan> compiz (core) fatal cannot open display ;(
[18:09] <rob_p> HeIsRisen: I see.  Good luck with it.  I just installed the android SDK and Eclipse Development Environment this week!
[18:09] <librarat> _cronus_: No I have not. How can I check it?
[18:09] <inveratulo> jarleb_: sounds like a job for sed
[18:09] <HeIsRisen> Yeah I did all that Rob ... now I want to be able to run adb from anywhere within my shell
[18:09] <gildas> BOnsoir, il y a des Fr ,
[18:09] <HeIsRisen> bbl
[18:09] <_cronus_> librarat, dmesg|tail
[18:09] <ThinkT510> !fr | gildas
[18:10] <gakhan> help me tol aunch compiz :((
[18:10] <librarat> _cronus_:
[18:10] <librarat> [12195.229808] sr 0:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Illegal mode for this track
[18:10] <librarat> [12195.229812] sr 0:0:0:0: [sr0] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00
[18:10] <librarat> [12195.229818] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 0
[18:10] <librarat> [12195.232102] sr 0:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
[18:10] <FloodBot1> librarat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:10] <FloodBot3> librarat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:10] <librarat> [12195.232105] sr 0:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current]
[18:10] <Cody3290> wow
[18:10] <Cody3290> They called in anohter floodbot
[18:10] <librarat> >.< I fail
[18:10] <Cody3290> >_>
[18:11] <rob_p> HeIsRisen: I'm pretty stoked that the platform is so open... and it's Linux!  Of course I'm developing my android apps from within Mac.
[18:11] <gakhan> wht's linux?
[18:11] <MarconM> hi everyone
[18:11]  * Fireblasto is away: Auto-away after 30 mins idle (gone at 11th Mar, 18:11:49)
[18:12] <Galaxor> Hiya.  Anybody want to help me with a wget command?  I'm trying to mirror this site, but it's not following the links, it just stops at the index page.  Why is that?  The command I'm using is:  wget -r -N -l inf -k http://battlemesh.org/BattleMeshV4
[18:12] <ThinkT510> !linux | gakhan
[18:12] <JuJuBee> anybody have experience with minicom?  I tried all 4 serial ports ttyS0 - ttyS3 and none of them work it seems...
[18:12] <leaveboy> !linux | ThinkT510
[18:12] <gakhan> HOW to START compiz or metacity? that c..p died
[18:13] <rob_p> JuJuBee: Did you cycle through the baud rates for each setting?
[18:13] <librarat> _cronus_: http://pastebin.com/vcvA6XdR
[18:13] <_cronus_> librarat, it is probably better to connect your drive directly to a computer with sata port. there might be a problem with sata to usb dongle
[18:13] <JuJuBee> no, I   usually use 9600 8N1 when I use a usb connector
[18:13] <jerk_> hey... every time I update my kernel, it adds two entries to the boot menu... and now there are about eight of those... can I please know how to trim down the list a bit?
[18:13] <librarat> _cronus_: that's unfortunate. I'll see what I can do
[18:13] <ThinkT510> leaveboy: can i help you?
[18:13] <librarat> _cronus_: thank you for the input :)
[18:14] <rob_p> JuJuBee: Usually you want baudrate, 1 parity bit,8 data bits, and no hardware flow control
[18:14] <JuJuBee> rob_p: what baudrate should I use, I usually use 9600
[18:15] <rob_p> JuJuBee: Ok, so if you set minicom to 9600,1,8,none then you should be good to go.
[18:15] <ricorx7> jerk_: when you do sudo apt-get update, i think it tells you the command to remove the old stuff, can't remember what it was
[18:15] <rob_p> ricorx7: apt-get autoremove
[18:15] <leaveboy> ThinkT510: just test
[18:15] <fisix> Halal has quit
[18:15] <fisix> HAH
[18:15] <prime> @search our lady of darkness
[18:15] <jarleb_> can anybody help me with a sentence using sed to change any ? in a filename into p?
[18:15] <gakhan> ubuntu grow worse each year
[18:15] <jarleb_> can anybody help me with a sentence using sed to change any ? in a filename into p
[18:16] <prime> sorry wrong forum
[18:16] <fisix> LOL prime
[18:16] <wizards> _
[18:16] <JuJuBee> rob_p: I did and tried all 4 serial ports ttyS0 - ttyS1 and restarted minicom between each and no go
[18:16] <rob_p> jarleb_: echo "sometext?" | sed 's/\?/p/g'
[18:16] <prime> gakhan why?
[18:17] <ThinkT510> !bot | leaveboy
[18:17] <rob_p> JuJuBee: Hmmm... then I don't know what to tell ya.  Sorry!
[18:17] <leaveboy> ThinkT510: ....
[18:17] <JuJuBee> jarleb_: sed -i 's/?/p?/g' filename ?  maybe need to escape the ?'s though not sure...
[18:17] <JuJuBee> my bad, didnt see the second post without second ?
[18:18] <jerk_> ricorx7: I use update manager....
[18:18] <rob_p> jarleb_: JuJuBee: Yes.  You need to escape the, "?" in the sed command.
[18:18] <gakhan> gakhan, because it's more and more buggy and no damned improvements whatsoever
[18:18] <JuJuBee> rob_p: bummer ...
[18:19] <JuJuBee> How do I test to see if ubuntu actuall recognizes the serial ports?
[18:19] <ricorx7> jerk_: you can use the console
[18:19] <jarleb_> JuJuBee, I'll try yours, but not quite sure what you mean by escape the "?"
[18:19] <rob_p> JuJuBee: Look to see if the device nodes actually exist.
[18:19] <gakhan> for example some idiot made shift+capslock a keyboard switch, that beyound any reason
[18:19] <red2kic> gakhan: You forget you had a choice. You made a switch to linux. Why don't you do something about it? Remove packages that does not have your interests.
[18:19] <gakhan> jarleb_, \?
[18:19] <JuJuBee> rob_p: in /dev ?  like /dev/ttyS0 ?
[18:19] <rob_p> JuJuBee: Yup.
[18:19] <JuJuBee> they do
[18:20] <jarleb_> gakhan, ok
[18:20] <rob_p> JuJuBee: Again, it should just work.  Not sure why it's not.
[18:21] <gilles_> hey quick question ..i have a i7 920 -4 cores .. is ubuntu by default using all my cpu power ?
[18:21] <erUSUL> gilles_: yes
[18:21] <jerk_> ricorx7: how's tha?
[18:21] <gilles_> ok .. i just find that its slow to open application alot of the times ?>
[18:21] <ricorx7> jerk_: open the console and give the command "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[18:22] <rob_p> jarleb_: Did you try mine?  The, "?" is escaped in my example.
[18:22] <red2kic> gilles_: Run "uname -m"
[18:22] <erUSUL> gilles_: that's a i/o bound operation afaics
[18:22] <ghc> gilles_, what application?
[18:23] <gilles_> anything i open really ..
[18:23] <[TK]D-Fender> gilles_: Slow compared to what?  What applications?  What kernel (as you were already requested).  What hardware?
[18:23] <JuJuBee> rob_p: hmmm  minicom shows status as offline.  How do I make online?  Does it go automagically when it connects?
[18:23] <erUSUL> gilles_: i.e. the slow part in the system is the hard disk
[18:23] <gilles_> Yes it does .. oehing applicactions like a game or music .. anythiung
[18:23] <rob_p> JuJuBee: I haven't used minicom for years.  I don't remember how it behaves. Sorry.
[18:23] <gilles_> ok
[18:23] <Guest89962> !language
[18:24] <ghc> gilles_, slow like what? 1s, 10s, 30s ?
[18:24] <gilles_> 5-10 secs
[18:24] <Guest89962> !languages setting
[18:24] <gilles_> i just find windows abit more responsive that way
[18:24] <erUSUL> Guest89962: what is your problem with language?
[18:24] <[TK]D-Fender> gilles_: You are blaming an OS for different APPLICATIONS so far.
[18:24] <_cronus_> JuJuBee, try GTKterminal - is is much simpler
[18:24] <[TK]D-Fender> gilles_: again, please provide actual details.
[18:24] <jerk_> ricorx7: actually I was checking out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/removing-old-kernels and it says no
[18:25] <JuJuBee> _cronus_: Thanks, I  will give that a try and thanks for trying rob_p
[18:25] <_cronus_> JuJuBee, *GTKTerm
[18:25] <gilles_> nvm thx for your help
[18:25] <rob_p> JuJuBee: welcome, good luck!
[18:25] <Guest89962> @erUSUL  nothing...  I was just trying to fin more information about it! :-)
[18:25] <gakhan> which package defines default keyboard layout in X apps?
[18:26] <ghc> gilles_, I think that linux desktop have more latency than windows. You can google for how minimize it.
[18:26] <erUSUL> gakhan: system>Preferences>keyboard
[18:26] <lusmus> hmm, what shall install now.. then i have installed with minimal cd :)
[18:26] <gakhan> now read the question and try once again
[18:27] <ThinkT510> lusmus: depends what you want to use your system for
[18:27] <oCean> gakhan: that attitude is getting you nowhere
[18:27] <lusmus> ThinkT510: hehe i dont know.. really? the main thing i want to do is programming my website hehe
[18:28] <ThinkT510> lusmus: then you'll need a graphical environment (gnome, kde or xfce or others)
[18:28] <JuJuBee> _cronus_: same problem with GTKTerm  none of the serial ports seem to work
[18:28] <AnubArack> is anyone on Chrome 11 dev channel ?
[18:29] <lusmus> ThinkT510: is it neccesary?
[18:29] <MeanEYE> evening ever1
[18:29] <rob_p> MeanEYE: good evening
[18:30] <apocalyptiq> hi o/
[18:30] <ThinkT510> lusmus: if you are testing websites then you need a browser to view them and that requires a graphical environment (unless your websites are entirely text based)
[18:30] <leaveboy> lusmus: actually ,it is not!
[18:30] <JuJuBee> _cronus_: although when I used ttyS1 i get errors on conolse... Control Signal Reads... Input/Output errors
[18:30] <lusmus> ThinkT510: im just want to test my knowledge :p you know
[18:31] <leaveboy> lusmus: ....
[18:31] <leaveboy> lusmus: learn 4 learn
[18:32] <soreau> On a persistent live usb, the system time it reports is 7 hours ahead. I want the system time to be correct but even though I set the location, it's still not right
[18:32] <leaveboy> soreau: UTC
[18:32] <MeanEYE> soreau: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[18:32] <zachlr> So the update manager is spontaneously working again after 3 weeks of "Could not calculate the upgrade."  There are about 600MB of updates ready, but I was wondering if it would be a good idea to update them now, or after upgrading to 10.10?
[18:33] <soreau> leaveboy: Yes, how can I set that?
[18:33] <MeanEYE> zachlr: system will upgrade those during version upgrade so if you upgrade now, less download later :D either way it's the same
[18:33] <alexisr> Hola
[18:34] <MeanEYE> alexisr: hi
[18:34] <lusmus> someone that can recommend me some apps?
[18:34] <gakhan> which package defines default keyboard layout in X apps?
[18:34] <zachlr> MeanEYE, alright, cool.  Thanks.
[18:34] <soreau> MeanEYE: Oh yea, that worked, thanks
[18:34] <MeanEYE> soreau: np :D
[18:34] <soreau> ! es | alexisr
[18:34] <MeanEYE> lusmus: apps for what? :D
[18:34] <leaveboy> soreau: /etc/default/rcS UTC=yes
[18:34] <leaveboy> soreau: UTC=no
[18:35] <soreau> leaveboy: ok thanks
[18:35] <lusmus> MeanEYE:  i dont know really :p
[18:35] <MeanEYE> lusmus: kind of hard to recommend something :D...
[18:35] <leaveboy> soreau: welcome
[18:35] <alexisr> anyone knows why "sudo os-prober" return nothing ? y  have winXP in dev/sda1
[18:35] <lisandros> DasEi, hey
[18:35] <lisandros> Hello, im looking someone to help a noob like me to solve some problems on ma pc...
[18:35] <lisandros> anyone here?
[18:35] <MeanEYE> lusmus: I can recommend my own application :P if you wish
[18:35] <MeanEYE> lisandros: just ask, :D
[18:36] <MeanEYE> we'll try
[18:36] <User_007> i need help... the applet that used to show my social networks on Ubuntu just gone..
[18:36] <DenverDave> howdy.. I have an ubuntu and xp hd, I would like to boot the ubuntu hd and see if I can use KVM or virtualbox to access apps on the windows hd.. is this even possible? if so how? thanks
[18:36] <MeanEYE> User_007: you mean Me Menu?
[18:36] <soreau> alexisr: maybe try #grub
[18:36] <soreau> User_007: Where was this applet?
[18:36] <AnubArack> is anyone on Chrome 11 dev channel ?
[18:36] <alexisr> ok but grub works fine, its extrange bye bye ! tnks
[18:37] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: VMWare had options to do that but software is not free(if I remember correctly)... VBox can run XP but you can't access physical partitions
[18:37] <MeanEYE> AnubArack: Chrome question or bug report?
[18:37] <masdi> hello, need help here. My ubuntu can't logon to wpa2 wifi network. i can logon if i set "open".
[18:37] <MeanEYE> masdi: did you try with wpa1?
[18:37] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: ok thanks.. I knew it was a long shot
[18:37] <ricorx7> i can access windows partitions in ubuntu vbox
[18:38] <DenverDave> ricorx7 : do tell
[18:38] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: there are tutorials online on how to transfer windows installation on to virtual drive VBox can use... google it :D
[18:38] <ricorx7> Use shared folders in setting
[18:38] <DenverDave> MeanEYE ah ha!! very cool
[18:38] <Jordan_> Hello
[18:38] <DenverDave> ricorx7 that is true but I want to run apps
[18:38] <User_007> soreau it used to be on the right side of the clock
[18:39] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: if I understood you correctly you want to run applications? if you just need to read files ubuntu can do that
[18:39] <Jordan_> IS ANYONE GOOD WITH PROBLEMS WITH UBUNTU
[18:39] <masdi> MeanEYE :what is wpal?
[18:39] <AnubArack> MeanEYE, i need someone to take a screenshot (or at least check) of the Set up sync pop-up ... i have no passwords toggle :(
[18:39] <ricorx7> Ya, not run apps, just view files
[18:39] <drmorphias> hey how do you obtain where a package is installed in terminal?
[18:39] <Jordan_> HELLO?!
[18:39] <DenverDave> MeanEYE : yes I want to run apps in vbox under ubuntu
[18:39] <ricorx7> drmorphias: which
[18:39] <DenverDave> Jordan_ quit shoutig in all caps please
[18:39] <MeanEYE> masdi: just WPA (I wrote WPA one)
[18:39]  * leaveboy < Jordan_> IS ANYONE GOOD WITH PROBLEMS WITH UBUNTU
[18:39] <ThinkT510> Jordan_: tell us your problem and we may help
[18:39] <DenverDave> will get you further
[18:40] <User_007> soreau, it come with ubuntu
[18:40] <tjiggi_fo> !caps | Jordan_
[18:40] <Jinxed-_> I copied my crontab file from one computer to my current one, and it no longer starts the bash scripts that are specified in the file? Any idea why?
[18:40] <ricorx7> DenverDave: windows apps in ubuntu?
[18:40] <tjiggi_fo> anyone | Jordan_
[18:40] <MeanEYE> AnubArack: sync pop-up?
[18:40] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: then try finding that tutorial :D
[18:40] <tjiggi_fo> !anyone | Jordan_
[18:40] <User_007> soreau, it had my username
[18:40] <drmorphias> for example, ricorx7, if i wanted to find out where openjdk-6-jdk is without opening synaptic package manager... how would i go about doing that?
[18:40] <DenverDave> ricorx7 yes  I play poker and those apps do not run natively under linux nor do some of my helper programs
[18:40] <masdi> MeanEYE : it cant connect to wep/wpa or wpa2.
[18:41] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: did you try with wine?
[18:41] <Jordan_> I install ubuntu 10.10 from a disk i ordered and i get a error /dev/sda1 is missing when it is there when i log into Windows.
[18:41] <MeanEYE> masdi: which authentication method are you using... PSK or other?
[18:41] <User_007> soreau, between the clock and the power button
[18:41] <AnubArack> MeanEYE, http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/tqabhyot/Setupsync_002.png
[18:41] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: I have not tried wine as i dont want to install on the ubuntu hd as I have lots of data on the windows hd I want intact
[18:41] <ricorx7> drmorphias: "which appname" or "find | grep  folder"
[18:41] <soreau> User_007: Oh that's something you can readd to your gnome-panel
[18:41] <Jinxed-_> Is this the correct channel to ask about crontab problems in ubuntu?
[18:42] <soreau> User_007: Just right click and select Add to Panel
[18:42] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: I thinkmaybe I will google the vbox way of absorbing an xp install into it
[18:42] <MeanEYE> Jordan_: is your dvd-rom primary master?
[18:43] <johnny_X> Hi all!  What is the best replacement Photo app for Ristretto?
[18:43] <User_007> soreau, i already tried ... no one of them are the lost app
[18:43] <JohnFlux> When I view:  http://kanji.koohii.com/study/kanji/228
[18:43] <masdi> MeanEYE :wpa-psk now using D-link  2640B router-modem
[18:43] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: you have ubuntu installed right?
[18:43] <soreau> User_007: Not even user switcher?
[18:43] <JohnFlux> The big kanji for 葉   is rendered badly
[18:43] <MeanEYE> masdi: does it work now?
[18:43] <overclucker> DenverDave: expect a challlenge, windows doesn't like hardware changes
[18:43] <JohnFlux> Where do I report font bugs?
[18:43]  * Fireblasto is away: Auto-away after 30 mins idle (gone at 11th Mar, 18:43:54)
[18:43] <MeanEYE> JohnFlux: ubuntu font bugs?
[18:43] <User_007> nope\
[18:44] <lisandros> Hello, im looking someone to help a noob like me to solve some problems on ma pc...(cant play youtube videos,cant play HoN cant you ma camera on skype)
[18:44] <User_007> socram, it used to have a balloon showing my gtalk status (
[18:44] <JohnFlux> MeanEYE: I don't know
[18:44] <MeanEYE> AnubArack: ok, just saw the picture... sorry for late reply... what seems to be the problem
[18:45] <lisandros> Hello, im looking someone to help a noob like me to solve some problems on ma pc...(cant play youtube videos,cant play HoN cant you ma camera on skype)
[18:45] <ThinkT510> lisandros: have you installed flash?
[18:45] <MeanEYE> JohnFlux: which version of ubuntu?
[18:45] <lisandros> ThinkT510,  yep
[18:45] <AnubArack> MeanEYE, no problem. I have no passwords toggle ... so no passwords got synced :(
[18:45] <ThinkT510> lisandros: what browser are you using?
 ubunt-restricted-extras?
[18:45] <johnny_X> What is the best replacement Photo app besides Ristretto?
 ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[18:46] <lisandros> ThinkT510,  mozzila and opera
[18:46] <lisandros> dotlegend, what u mean?
[18:46] <MeanEYE> AnubArack: you are running Chrome 11?
[18:46] <AnubArack> MeanEYE, yes. dev channel latest build 11.0.696.3
[18:46] <MeanEYE> AnubArack: I don't have that option either (yet)... so it might be possible google is still preparing release with that  option included
 terminal: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:47] <MeanEYE> AnubArack: additionally you can go to code.google.com/p/chromium and report bug there
[18:47] <ThinkT510> lisandros: how did you install flash? through the package manager?
[18:47] <User_007> soreau, it used to have a balloon showing my gtalk status (
[18:47] <AnubArack> MeanEYE, I had my password synced yesterday on the same browser. I had to reinstall ubuntu and now no passwords
[18:47] <lisandros> ThinkT510, 1 friend did it
[18:47] <lisandros> ThinkT510,  i dont know
[18:47] <lisandros> dotlegend, w8 a sec
[18:48] <MeanEYE> AnubArack: that's weird... did you check on version. sorry I know it's stupid but I can't think of anything else
[18:48] <soreau> User_007: Maybe indicator applet or notification area?
[18:48] <Jinxed-_> Is there a difference between doing EDITOR=VI & crontab -e and editing your crontab file directly with vi /etc/crontab in ubuntu 10.04?
[18:48] <AnubArack> MeanEYE, yes i did check. Was first place I looked
[18:48] <JohnFlux> MeanEYE: this is in 10.10 sorry
[18:48] <sideone> hey all.. i need to write a script to pull all XLS files matching ABCD????.xls .. i can use wget for this, however, the files will be placed in directories matching the ???? (the ???? == date) .. i will not know the directory names or filenames that are needed, so a little bit of logic will need to be used. Does anyone know a wget(ish) type of program that can scour directory links to pull any
[18:48] <sideone> items matching ABCD????.xls ?
[18:48] <lisandros> dotlegend, i already got the latest it says
[18:48] <MeanEYE> Jinxed-_: yes
[18:48] <JohnFlux> MeanEYE: do you also see it if you go   http://kanji.koohii.com/study/kanji/228  in firefox?
[18:49] <User_007> soreau, neither them
[18:49] <soreau> Is there a way to tell metacity to place all windows in the center of the screen?
[18:49] <MeanEYE> AnubArack: did you check if there is an upgrade ready. on first install google adds its own repo... might need an upgrade
[18:49] <soreau> User_007: I'm having trouble finding it here myself.. maybe it's some applet
[18:49] <MeanEYE> JohnFlux: I think ff uses its own fonts. I don't use FF
[18:49] <Jinxed-_> MeanEYE: ... I was always able to get my scripts to start up just editing the /etc/crontab file but I copied one from an old machine to this machine and now none of my scripts start
[18:49] <AnubArack> MeanEYE, i did check that as well :(
[18:49] <johnny_X> What's the best Ristretto replacement app for Xubuntu 10.04?
[18:49] <Jinxed-_> MeanEYE: I googled and the results were old but mentioned editing the crontab file with crontab -e
[18:50] <soreau> User_007: Try Indicator Applet Session
[18:50] <soreau> User_007: pretty sure that's it
[18:50] <Lasivian> Hey all. Anyone know if Ubuntu has a better drive test tool than WD Diags for a WD drive? Thanks
[18:50] <User_007> soreau, i think so... but i tryed to add every applet an noone
[18:50] <MeanEYE> JohnFlux: and yes I can see those fonts ... but in any case you need japanese support... go to System -> Administration -> Language Support and check japanese, that will install additional fonts
[18:50] <socram> User_007: ?
[18:50] <User_007> socram, sorry
[18:50] <soreau> socram: auto-tab-complete-failure ;)
[18:51] <Lasivian> maybe I should simplify.. "What is the Linux drive diagnostic tool called?" thanks :)
[18:51] <MeanEYE> Jinxed-_: did you try editing again with crontab -e, just add and remove something and then save it again check if that fixes it
[18:51] <User_007> soreau, i think so... but i tryed to add every applet an noone of them are the lost one
[18:51] <soreau> Lasivian: Where do you find it?
[18:51] <DenverDave> MeanEYE thanks for the help.. I will now go search on stuff later
[18:51] <soreau> User_007: Well I really think it's Indicator Applet Session
[18:51] <MeanEYE> Lasivian: System -> Administration -> Disk tools
[18:52] <soreau> User_007: If all else fails, reset your panel to defaults
[18:52] <Lasivian> MeanEYE: thanks
[18:52] <MeanEYE> Lasivian: sorry Disk Utility
[18:52] <soreau> resetpanel | User_007
[18:52] <soreau> ! resetpanel | User_007
[18:52] <Lasivian> soreau: What MeanEYE just said
[18:52] <gakhan> how to customize workspaces count?
[18:52] <MeanEYE> gakhan: right click on it, properties
[18:52] <soreau> Lasivian: palimpsest
[18:52] <MeanEYE> gakhan: ppreferences
[18:52] <MeanEYE> what's wrong with me tonight, am missing all the names
[18:53] <gakhan> MeanEYE, it has no context menu
[18:53] <soreau> Lasivian: You can see the real name of any app in the menu by selecting properties on an element in Sys>prefs>Main Menu (alacarte)
[18:53] <ff> heyy
[18:53] <MeanEYE> gakhan: are we talking about workspaces widget on panel?
[18:53] <User_007> soreau, i have created another user and nothing... maybe it have been uninstalled
[18:53] <ff> heyy can you help about c++
[18:53] <gakhan> about widget in unity sidebar
[18:53] <infid> how can i save a streaming flash video?
[18:54] <ff> pls
[18:54] <MeanEYE> ff: I don't have much experience, but shoot
[18:54] <MeanEYE> gakhan: you can probably install ccsm (compiz config settings manager) and change there
[18:54] <aseem> msg NickServ identify dbd19881
[18:54] <ff> can you give a tutorial about c lang
[18:55] <MeanEYE> gakhan: bare in mind Unity is still in development, I wouldn't be surprised if there is no options
[18:55] <JohnFlux> MeanEYE: The problem is that it looks like:  http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/8972/snapshot1bq.png
[18:55] <ff> can you give a tutorial about c lang
[18:55] <MeanEYE> ff: hm, sorry I don't know C or C++, just the basic stuff
[18:55] <gakhan> ff, go buy a book
[18:55] <MeanEYE> JohnFlux: did you try with chrome or any other browser?
[18:55] <ThinkT510> aseem: i suggest you change your password and only identify when not in a logged channel
[18:55] <ricorx7> ff: ##c
[18:56] <soreau> User_007: What app do you use for this little messaging thing? pidgin?
[18:56] <mimor> Why is the Nagios from repository so different from the one compiled from source?
[18:56] <ff> do you know where to download a good tuto
[18:56] <aseem> ThinkT510,already did. sorry for the blunder.
[18:56] <ff> ricorx7 whats ##c
[18:56] <MeanEYE> mimor: ubuntu tends to keep one version of software in repository... they call it debian freeze. they usually rollout changes much later. probably due to changes. you can almost always find ppa for program you are looking for and have up-to-date version
[18:57] <ki__> Anyone recommend a secure and user friendly password manager for linux?
[18:57] <ThinkT510> aseem: glad to see you security concious :)
[18:57] <ricorx7> ff: channel for C
[18:57] <mimor> MeanEYE: thx for the explanation ;)
[18:57] <User_007> soreau, on 10.10 we have empathy
[18:57] <ff> ##c
[18:57] <MeanEYE> mimor: np glad I could help... if you have trouble finding their ppa let me know
[18:58] <test> ff: /join ##c
[18:58] <leaveboy> soreau: irssi
[18:58] <lusmus> hmm, what is most lightweighted desktop thingy ;)
[18:58] <soreau> User_007: Well I don't really know what happened then. Typically if you have an app that shows an icon, it's visible in notification area
[18:58] <Starminn> I'm trying to update my packages (using the "Update Manager") and it's telling me to check my internet connection. My Internet is fine (as I'm on IRC no problem), so what could the problem be? The issue it's having is it can't get the crap from "http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/pool/main/g/google-chrome-stable/google-chrome-stable_10.0.648.127-r76697_i386.deb" so how do I tell it to just skip that, perhaps? Or fix that?
[18:58] <MeanEYE> ki__: http://lastpass.com/
[18:58] <leaveboy> sleep now bye
[18:59] <ThinkT510> lusmus: i've heard good things about lxde
[18:59] <ff> how to hack fb man
[18:59] <MeanEYE> lusmus: anything other than kde and gnoem :D ... I prefer enlightenment some prefer fluxbox :D
[18:59] <ff> does anybody knows how to hack facebook
[19:00] <lusmus> hmm ok, who of them are the flexible and lightweigthed? :p
[19:00] <Vespero> How is that relevant to Ubuntu?
[19:00] <ff> ??
[19:00] <ThinkT510> ff: we don't encourage such behaviour here
[19:00] <Starminn> ff: That's not exactly appropriate for this channel. Please take it somewhere else
[19:00] <MeanEYE> Starminn: he should skip automatically but it could be your local server is down... check in Settings -> Ubuntu Software -> Download from
[19:00] <drmorphias> ff, this isn't the place for that
[19:00] <ff> suggest me a channel pls to hack fb
[19:00] <MeanEYE> lusmus: enlightenment is really minimalistic, great looking and highly configurable... fluxbox is just minimalistic
[19:00] <ff> ??
[19:01] <test> ff, no
[19:01] <Vespero> ff, don't even ask about that kind of stuff.
[19:01] <ff> pls??
[19:01] <Vespero> It's bad for the channel.
[19:01] <xormor> ff: #hacking
[19:01] <gakhan> !ops
[19:01] <MeanEYE> lusmus: also as mentioned LXDE is good :) as well
[19:01] <Jasonn> !abuse | ff
[19:01] <lusmus> hmm, let try them out..
[19:01] <lusmus> how do i get them?
[19:01] <maco> ff: illegal discussions are not permitted here
[19:02] <Jasonn> ff: stick around for a min
[19:02] <ThinkT510> !install | lusmus
[19:02] <Starminn> MeanEYE: http://imagebin.org/142421
[19:02] <MeanEYE> lusmus: which one?... most of them are in repository
[19:02] <ThinkT510> lusmus: oops, sorry wrong factoid
[19:02] <drmorphias> so whos excited for the 11.04?
[19:02] <lusmus> ubottu: i cant click on links im using terminal and its the only thing i have :p
[19:02] <lisandros> Hello, im looking someone to help a noob like me to solve some problems on ma pc...(cant play youtube videos,cant play HoN cant you ma camera on skype)
[19:02] <ff> what soft to hack fb pls man
[19:02] <Starminn> ff: Stop it.
[19:03] <lusmus> ff:lol are you kidding?
[19:03] <jsoftw> ff: You cant be serious.
[19:03] <drmorphias> ff - You are NOT going to find an answer here for illegal activity.
[19:03] <ugliefrog> Help please how do i fix this error (mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting xxx.xxx.x.xxx:/var/lib/recordings/)
[19:03] <ff> i have a problem with an email adrre so i need it man
[19:03] <drmorphias> ff - Take that **** and go someplace else
[19:03] <MeanEYE> Starminn: hm, is your DNS working?
[19:03] <MeanEYE> Starminn: try dig www.google.com
[19:03] <Starminn> !illegal > ff
[19:03] <wviana> hey, somebody that know C can help me?
[19:04] <Starminn> MeanEYE: Yeah, I can load and itneract with pages fine. And I'm on IRC now on this same computer.
[19:04] <cinnabarisland12> can't get RT3090BC4 to work more than once, help a noob out?
[19:04] <MeanEYE> whoa, lot's of C questions tonight
[19:04] <drmorphias> wviana, i know C# ...
[19:04] <Starminn> wviana: Try in ##c
[19:04] <ff> ok but i lost my email pass which i need so much what can i do now pls hwlp me
[19:04] <xormor> wviana: I know C and C++.
[19:04] <Starminn> ff: So tell them about it. Hacking is overkill.
[19:04] <MeanEYE> Starminn: can you try running update from the console (sudo apt-get upgrade)
[19:04] <drmorphias> ff - go to facebook.com and ask them
[19:05] <IdleOne> ff: click on the forgot password button. and please stop asking for help with cracking passwords
[19:05] <wviana> the problem is this: I am declaring a string, and i am trying to convert it to float, with the function atof()
[19:05] <ff> its a school adress and i need asap
[19:05] <ff> what doft
[19:05] <Starminn> MeanEYE: http://pastebin.com/1MpsNknQ
[19:05] <MeanEYE> maco: plz, little help here... am loosing track of important stuff
[19:05] <Jasonn> ff: im sorry, do you need help to click forgot password?
[19:06] <ThinkT510> can someone kick ff, he's not listening
[19:06] <wviana> char numero[]="15";
[19:06] <wviana> 	float num = atof(numero);
[19:06] <Starminn> ff: Do the forgot password thing. Problem solved.
[19:06] <ff> come on gys do nt be so rude
[19:06] <jaympo_> let's ignore ff ^^
[19:06] <MeanEYE> Starminn: ok, google repo is failing... from update manager Settings -> Other Software and disable google repo for a moment
[19:06] <Starminn> wviana: This is Ubuntu. Go to the C channel for C help.
[19:06] <Starminn> MeanEYE: Thought as much.
[19:06] <wviana> whats is the channel name ?
[19:07] <ff> its only educational not for bad purpose
[19:07] <cinnabarisland12> can anyone help with my RT3090BC4?
[19:07] <tsimpson> wviana: ##c
[19:07] <jaympo_> thx xD
[19:07] <lusmus> Starminn: haha how many channels in ubuntu are their? :)
[19:07] <MeanEYE> Starminn: could be they changed it, if you reinstall chrome it will be automatically added back
[19:07] <wviana> thx
[19:07] <MeanEYE> lusmus: a lot :D
[19:07] <MeanEYE> tsimpson: thank you!
[19:08] <Starminn> lusmus: #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic. Oh, and #ubuntu-bots, and I think one for ops. Then you've got #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #lubuntu, all the *buntu-based channels, and so on.
[19:08] <cmanns> Hey
[19:08] <infid> how can i save a streaming flash video?
[19:08] <wviana> it sad that is only to invited persons
[19:08] <cmanns> how the hell do I get the firmware for b43?
[19:08] <tsimpson> !channels | lusmus
[19:08] <MeanEYE> infid: from which site and which browser?
[19:08] <Gagatan_> weird.. karmic found my screen automatically.. reinstalled with maveric, and only get 1024x768 on part of screen and no recognized screen.. any help appreciated
[19:08] <ThinkT510> !register | wviana
[19:08] <MeanEYE> Gagatan_: which video card?
[19:08] <cmanns> I'm very upset at this, I downloaded abunch of firmwares n such. How do you guys expect us to setup wireless on a laptopw hen theres no internet? It says my firmwares out of date, yet i downloaded it from recent
[19:09] <cinnabarisland12> anyone help with my rt3090bc4 only wrking on one login?#
[19:09] <cmanns> So any links to what i need to download on my windows installed is appriciated, since I gotta boot into internetless-ubuntu
[19:09] <Jasonn> !wifi cmanns
[19:09] <Jasonn> !wifi | cmanns
[19:09] <cmanns> Already been there the documents are bullshit
[19:10] <lusmus> smartbot hehe
[19:10] <Gagatan_> MeanEYE: Intel 82852/855GM (Dell X300) according to lspci
[19:10] <cmanns> links me to sites where I have to apt-get b3-fwcutter and such, I have no internet..... :)
[19:10] <Jasonn> cmanns: i guess you have to use an ethernet cable in this case, bud
[19:10] <cmanns> I have no ethernet
[19:10] <cmanns> this is wireless-only area
[19:10] <MeanEYE> Gagatan_: Intel drivers are included with OS. Everything should work. Problem is with limited resolution?
[19:10] <Jasonn> cmanns: do you have more than one computer?
[19:10] <ThinkT510> !offline | cmanns
[19:10] <cinnabarisland12> anyone help with my rt3090BC4?
[19:10] <cmanns> Jason nope
[19:11] <cmanns> http://us.ubuntu.cafuego.net/
[19:11] <lisandros> Hello, im looking someone to help a noob like me to solve some problems on ma pc...(cant play youtube videos,cant play HoN cant you ma camera on skype)
[19:11] <Starminn> MeanEYE: Yeah, as expected it worked without the google download. I don't use Chrome anyway so I'll re-enable the link in a week or so and try again.
[19:11] <cmanns> suposidly that has what i want but no links :|
[19:11] <dcorbin_wrk> I've inherited an ubuntu (9.1) machine - When it boots, it never "finishes" and gives me a login.  It does have logins that work on "alternate virtual consoles".  What should I do to diagnose this problem?
[19:11] <MeanEYE> Starminn: :D ok...
[19:11] <Gagatan_> MeanEYE: yep.. System->Preference->Monitors shows no recognized monitors.. so I cannot set it to 1920x1200 or whatever
[19:11] <Jasonn> cmanns: get someone elses laptop and use it as a wireless bridge
[19:11] <MeanEYE> Gagatan_: we are talking about a laptop right... you can't set resolution to external monitor or built-in?
[19:12] <cinnabarisland12> can anyone help me with my rt3090bc4 card? I need a workaround urgently
[19:12] <cmanns> I don't know anybody who has internet or a computer where I'm located
[19:12] <Gagatan_> MeanEYE: yes, laptop. external monitor.. benq 24". laptop is in dockingstation with lid/screen down
[19:12] <cmanns> Just a lonesome sysadmin trying to get some ubuntu packages offline, why can't we download packages offline over http?
[19:12] <lisandros> Hello, im looking someone to help a noob like me to solve some problems on ma pc...(cant play youtube videos,cant play HoN cant you ma camera on skype)
[19:12] <cmanns> normally you can from ubuntu site i guess
[19:12] <MeanEYE> Gagatan_: is picture on both screens on?
[19:12] <ThinkT510> !offline | cmanns
[19:13] <Jasonn> lisandros: please do not double paste, we help whoever we can, double pasting only spams the channel
[19:13] <Aerosonic> Hey peeps
[19:13] <MeanEYE> Aerosonic: hi
[19:13] <cmanns> no such package ThinkT510
[19:14] <cmanns> This si what I'm saying, it's absolutely difficult to get this firmware
[19:14] <lisandros> jasonn sorry i mate they told me to repeat from time to time:) i wont do it again
[19:14] <ThinkT510> cmanns: what card you got?
[19:14] <Starminn> lisandros: You're fine. Just wait a little longer, that's all.
[19:14] <cmanns> I mean I could go get intel agn firmware from intel site easy, not saying it's yall fault. I been trying for a day to get firmware
[19:14] <MeanEYE> lisandros: suggestion, one problem at a time... it's easier for ppl to help
[19:14] <cmanns> bcm4311 g using latest B43 on lucid
[19:15] <masdi> MeanEYE : still cannot access wep/wpa/wpa2 wifi
[19:15] <cinnabarisland12> can anyone help me with my wifi card too?
[19:15] <th0r> cmanns: how you going to get intel firmware from the intel site if you have no net?
[19:15] <cmanns> I had another card but I didn't think ubuntu needed drivers for this card haha
[19:15] <cmanns> I have net on here
[19:15] <cmanns> and ubuntu works to read my other OS
[19:15] <lusmus> what fun it would be if i could watch youtube in ascii :)
[19:15] <cmanns> thus I got the v3 firmware from the recent documents
[19:15] <Gagatan_> MeanEYE: I thought it wasn't. but I opened the lid/screen and now have mirrored screens
[19:15] <cmanns> sadly i need v4 firmware
[19:15] <User_007> soreau, i think aptitude may have deleted it
[19:15] <cmanns> for lucid...
[19:15] <masdi> MeanEYE : it failed to authenticate key..i guess
[19:15] <lisandros> MeanEYE,  can u help on one problem?
[19:15] <soreau> User_007: But what app was it?
[19:15] <MeanEYE> masdi: System -> Administration -> Log file viewer, there should be in messages or something
[19:16] <triptec> is there any audio visualizers for ubuntu that uses pulse so I can use any music player I want??
[19:16] <Jasonn> lisandros: just a friendly reminder
[19:16] <MeanEYE> masdi: then you can be sure what's the problem
[19:16] <th0r> cmanns: if you have net, can't you get the packages from packages.ubuntu.com?
[19:16] <unc0nn3ct3d> Afternoon everyone.  When I make changes to my alsa.conf do I need to reboot or can I just force-reload alsa?
[19:16] <MeanEYE> Gagatan_: there in lies your problem... on your laptop there should be function key to switch completely to external display... then resolution will be ok
[19:16] <cmanns> yes I have b43-fwcutter but it tries to download the firmware from separate source when ubuntu has no net
[19:16] <lisandros> jasonn its ok i dont missunderstood ya:P
[19:16] <cmanns> so I'm trying to get the proper download...
[19:16] <MeanEYE> lisandros: can you repeat them, am having problems tracking things
[19:16] <ThinkT510> cmanns: have you checked https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[19:16] <cmanns> no will do, 1 sec
[19:17] <cmanns> On 3g so my speeds limited, thus on IRC, ty
[19:17] <MeanEYE> unc0nn3ct3d: :D windows logic doesn't work in linux... just restart service :D
[19:17] <lisandros> meaneye cant play HoN
[19:17] <cinnabarisland12> RT3090BC4 not working for more than one login can anyone help?
[19:17] <MeanEYE> lisandros: HoN?
[19:17] <unc0nn3ct3d> MeanEYE: thought so, just too many threads on the forums saying reboot.. yay
[19:17] <Gagatan_> MeanEYE: Fn-F8 you mean? seems it doesn't want to jump to external only..
[19:17] <infid> MeanEYE: any site, google chrome preferably
[19:17] <MeanEYE> unc0nn3ct3d: basically only kernel update requires reboot
[19:17] <lisandros> MeanEYE, cant play hon its a game  HeroesOfNewearth www.heoresofnewearth.com
[19:18] <MeanEYE> Gagatan_: try few times as it cycles trough modes...
[19:18] <iceroot> MeanEYE: libc and dbus-updates also
[19:18] <MeanEYE> infid: for chrome, download the whole flash video and you can find it in ~/.cache/google-chrome
[19:18] <cmanns> Can anyone run b43-fwcutter and lmk which dl link it tries to download from or maybe rapidupload me the tar from openwrt?
[19:18] <MeanEYE> iceroot: really?
[19:18] <iceroot> MeanEYE: sure
[19:18] <cmanns> I downloaded verison 4.1 and then on a 08 thread I see version 4.8
[19:18] <MeanEYE> iceroot: well libc makes sense :D
[19:19] <cmanns> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=763995
[19:19] <sven_oostenbrink> What program can take a bunch of mpg's from the video camera from my dad, make a selection menu, and burn it all to DVD?
[19:19] <sven_oostenbrink> in the *simplest* way possible?
[19:19] <cmanns> ^ So i bet verison 4.8 is prob out of date too for lucid LOL
[19:19] <Jinxed-_> MeanEYE: with the sudo crontab -e ... how do you specify if the script should be run as root or the user level....
[19:19] <cinnabarisland12> lisandros: http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/download.php there's a linux client avilable
[19:19] <cmanns> Ohh guys
[19:19] <xiamx> MX record in DNS, 10 and 20 which has higher priority?
[19:19] <cmanns> Whoever can, just look for openwrt in /usr/share/b43-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh
[19:19] <MeanEYE> Jinxed-_: whichever user runs crontab -e is running that script, so if you run that command as root ... that's a root execution
[19:19] <cmanns> it'll have the url's if you could pastebin and /msg me i suppose :)
[19:20] <infid> MeanEYE: all i see in that directory are files with no extension
[19:20] <MeanEYE> lisandros: hm, link doesn't work... never heard of that game...
[19:20] <Gagatan_> MeanEYE: nopes.. I'll try restarting on misc level
[19:20] <[TK]D-Fender> xiamx: the lower #
[19:20] <ugliefrog> Help please how do i fix this error (mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting xxx.xxx.x.xxx:/var/lib/recordings/)
[19:20] <soreau> Man, this sucks. Trying to use a live persistent usb but every single package I install tries to setup the kernel, update initrd etc but fails and takes a long time doing it
[19:20] <lisandros> cinnabarisland12, i know i download it and installed it but when i click on it it doesnt start the aplycation
[19:20] <MeanEYE> infid: sadly, yes... but that's where flv files are stored, aslo you could check chrome extensions for something more simpler
[19:20] <ThinkT510> !usb | soreau
[19:20] <MeanEYE> Gagatan_: nope what? sorry problems tracking everything :D
[19:21] <lisandros> MeanEYE,  its really good:P its like dota (scenario of frozenthrone )
[19:21] <cinnabarisland12> lisandros: ah well, that's as far as my expertise in Linux Land go :P
[19:21] <masdi> MeanEYE : here msg >>ERROR!!! RTMPCancelTimer failed, Timer hasn't been initialize!
[19:21] <MeanEYE> lisandros: oh, nice nice...
[19:21] <xiamx> [TK]D-Fender, thx
[19:21] <lisandros> cinnabarisland12, :P:P
[19:21] <infid> MeanEYE: well is there a way to play the cached file
[19:21] <cmanns> soreau, I had a issue where usb wouldn't even boot w/out cd
[19:21] <MeanEYE> masdi: that's not it... do you have any other device you can check and see if you are typing the real password
[19:21] <cmanns> or it'd say no media in my cdm rom LOL
[19:21] <MeanEYE> infid: yes, just rename it to something.flv and play it with vlc or whatever
[19:21] <cmanns> So can anyone cat /usr/share/b43-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh | grep openwrt ?
[19:22] <lisandros> MeanEYE,  i download it and installed it but when i click on it, it doesnt start the aplycation
[19:22] <MeanEYE> lisandros: do you know where it's installed?
[19:22] <User_007> soreau, http://i52.tinypic.com/15xl5j7.png
[19:23] <User_007> this app
[19:23] <infid> MeanEYE: how do you know which one of those files is a flv or not if they have no extensions?
[19:23] <cinnabarisland12> hi guys I was wondering if using a WUBI install wuld affect my hardware? wifi doesn't work after another login
[19:23] <lisandros> MeanEYE,  home
[19:23] <Bill-Carson> Hi
[19:23] <MeanEYE> infid: they are the big ones...
[19:23] <User_007> soreau, i get it on Wikipedia Ubuntu article
[19:23] <soreau> User_007: That is Indicator Applet Session
[19:23] <MeanEYE> lisandros: try starding a game from terminal (if you know how) it will probably give you more info
[19:24] <soreau> User_007: I'm %100 positive because adding it produces this information on the panel
[19:24] <lisandros> MeanEYE, can ya tell me how?
[19:24] <MeanEYE> infid: if you need downloads from youtube mostly, there's application named minitube... which is imho much better solution
[19:24] <User_007> soreau, well, when i add an indicator applet Session i just get the power button
[19:24] <MeanEYE> lisandros: sure, do you know how to open a terminal?
[19:24] <Amithiel> guys, since gnome shell is more close to release, i suppose its stable enough to use. i want to install, however i'm kinda lost. i see some PPAS, but are too outdated, i see compiling from the source, compiling from the guit. Actually, what's the best way to install gnome shell, and get it updated of course?
[19:24] <lisandros> MeanEYE, yeah
[19:24] <lisandros> MeanEYE, pened it
[19:24] <soreau> User_007: You should right click on it and try to move it
[19:24] <infid> MeanEYE: you're a genius it worked
[19:24] <sajad> hi
[19:25] <MeanEYE> Amithiel: my suggestion is to wait, might screw up your OS
[19:25] <soreau> User_007: It might be covered up due to a bug or anything
[19:25] <MeanEYE> infid: np :D and thank you
[19:25] <vooze> Anyone having some experience with 3g-modems on ubuntu 10.10?? I have an huwai e1752 modem and works just fine out of the box.. but its really slow.. i can run 5-6mbit in windows but only 2mbit in linux.. any ideas??
[19:25] <MeanEYE> lisandros: where in home is it installed?
[19:25] <sajad> iran ?
[19:25] <sajad> kasi inja hast ?
[19:25] <User_007> soreau, i moved... nothing happens
[19:25] <cinnabarisland12> would a WUBI install use my hardware differently than on a normal install?
[19:25] <MeanEYE> vooze: check if usb-modeswitch is installed
[19:25] <sajad> ha ?
[19:25] <Amithiel> MeanEYE, oh, i see. tanks for the info
[19:25] <secretary_linux> Hi all. At some point likewise-open was installed on my system, but it is no longer. Now there are a bunch of services in /etc/init.d that shouldn't be there anymore (the removal was apparently faulty). Can anyone give me a list of likewise-open services that could be safely removed from a system without likewise installed?
[19:25] <MeanEYE> cinnabarisland12: no, just different file system which is slower
[19:25] <lisandros> MeanEYE,  in a folder called HoN
[19:26] <ThinkT510> !ir | sajad
[19:26] <MeanEYE> lisandros: ok type in cd ~/HoN
[19:26] <vooze> MeanEYE, it is.
[19:26] <bigbang> what could i use to access threw web my music collection and create playlists listen and access album covers all threw my browser ?..
[19:26] <lisandros> mean cd?
[19:26] <cinnabarisland12> MeanEYE: damn, I was hoping it might explain why my wifi's not working for two consecutive logins
[19:26] <MeanEYE> vooze: :/ give me a moment to check something
[19:26] <User_007> soreau, i moved... maybe some bug on applet
[19:27] <MeanEYE> cinnabarisland12: once Linux kernel boots, there's nothing more to relate to windows other than crappy ntfs
[19:27] <masdi> MeanEYE : error related to Ralink wifi , need to study more.
[19:27] <soreau> User_007: Does it show the whole thing?
[19:27] <MeanEYE> masdi: :/ sorry I wasnt able to help
[19:27] <User_007> soreau, it just show the power button
[19:27] <masdi> MeanEYE : np, thanks
[19:27] <soreau> User_007: I don't understand why it would do that
[19:28] <MeanEYE> vooze: ooh it works? are you sure it's not up to your provider...
[19:28] <cinnabarisland12> MeanEYE: alright I'm glad it isn't the crappy FS then but it still doesn't explain why the wifi suddenly decides to stop working on next login
[19:28] <r0me0> hola
[19:28] <MeanEYE> vooze: do you see some CPU spikes ?
[19:28] <User_007> soreau, neither am i
[19:28] <Jasonn> !es | r0me0
[19:28] <soreau> User_007: Did you try resetting the entire panel?
[19:28] <MeanEYE> cinnabarisland12: did you check apply for all users?
[19:28] <r0me0> necesito ayuda
[19:28] <soreau> ! resetpanel | User_007
[19:28] <r0me0> alguien español
[19:28] <cinnabarisland12> MeanEYE: I'm theonly user so yes :/
[19:28] <User_007> soreau, yes... and already tried adding another user and login as it
[19:29] <Jasonn> r0me0: yo hablo espanol
[19:29] <Jasonn> !es | r0me0
[19:29] <lisandros> MeanEYE, i did...lisandros@lisandros-Aspire-5670:~/HoN$ ^C
[19:29] <lisandros> lisandros@lisandros-Aspire-5670:~/HoN$
[19:29] <MeanEYE> cinnabarisland12: hm, is the connection still there?
[19:29] <User_007> soreau, the same error...
[19:29] <r0me0> oye tengo kiero hacer una conexion remota a un sistema de windows
[19:29] <vooze> MeanEYE, a little, not more than usual i think
[19:29] <r0me0> cual programa puedo utilizar
[19:29] <r0me0> jason
[19:29] <MeanEYE> lisandros: use pastebin.ubuntu.com and do: ls
[19:29] <cinnabarisland12> MeanEYE: no it disappears and then when I try to connect it keeps asking fo the WPA key I gave it before
[19:29] <r0me0> tengo xubuntu
[19:29] <Starminn> !es | r0me0
[19:29] <r0me0> 10.10
[19:29] <MeanEYE> vooze: :/ not sure why it's working with half the speed
[19:29] <bullgard> 1es | r0me0
[19:30] <cinnabarisland12> MeanEYE: doesn't automatically connect to it either
[19:30] <lisandros> MeanEYE,  ls?
[19:30] <Jasonn> !es | r0me0
[19:30] <bullgard> !es | r0me0
[19:30] <MeanEYE> lisandros: yes just: ls
[19:30] <MeanEYE> cinnabarisland12: do you have automatic login turned on?
[19:30] <cinnabarisland12> MeanEYE: nope never do
[19:30] <MeanEYE> cinnabarisland12: strange behavior then. not sure why it's not remembering your password and connection :/
[19:31] <infid> MeanEYE: what's strange is that cache dir only has files in it from 2010 even thoguh i've watched videos this year
[19:31] <vooze> MeanEYE, yeah, its quite weird.. :/
[19:31] <lisandros> MeanEYE, http://pastebin.com/dF3aQHAN   what is ls?
[19:31] <vooze> MeanEYE, just sucks, just moved and need to wait 2 months for "real internet" :(
[19:31] <MeanEYE> infid: they might be located somewhere else in that folder... also chrome automatically manages those files...so I can't guarantee they are there
[19:31] <Warwolt_> Hi, I'm a complete beginner with Ubuntu. I'm trying to get Spotify to run on Ubuntu and found some stuff on a forum that might help, and right now I need to access "~/.wine/drive_c/windows/profiles/[username]/Application Data/Spotify". the ~ seems to suggest I should find my own way to .wine but I have NO idea how to do that. Help?
[19:31] <cinnabarisland12> MeanEYE: I don't know, one minute it's fine then a logout/in or reboot later and it doesn't
[19:32] <xormor> Warwolt_: ̃  is home dir
[19:32] <erUSUL> Warwolt_: no ~ is your home folder
[19:32] <MeanEYE> lisandros: type in ls command and press enter
[19:32] <ThinkT510> Warwolt_: /home/username/
[19:32] <infid> MeanEYE: there are no other dirs in that folder hmm
[19:32] <MeanEYE> cinnabarisland12: maybe someone else can help, am lost :)
[19:32] <erUSUL> Warwolt_: run this in a terminal « nautilus ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/profiles/ »
[19:32] <MeanEYE> infid: maybe that's the reason you can't run the game
[19:32] <erUSUL> Warwolt_: browse from there
[19:33] <lisandros> MeanEYE,  what is ls?
[19:33] <MeanEYE> infid: sorry... :D wrong problem
[19:33] <MeanEYE> lisandros: lists files
[19:33] <cinnabarisland12> MeanEYE: lol thanks anyway, I suppose it could be the chip but if it has the right drivers there's no reason it should suddenly stop working and forget
[19:33] <Warwolt_> erUSUL_: Strange, I have Wine installed but it claims that the directory doesn't exist1
[19:33] <MeanEYE> cinnabarisland12: naah it's not the chip... since am guessing it works until you log out
[19:33] <infid> MeanEYE: oh there's another dir called Default/Cache that has them
[19:34] <MeanEYE> infid: see :D
[19:34] <erUSUL> Warwolt_: have you run it at least once?
[19:34] <sadff> hey one query ... when replying to someone .... do u again and again write the nick or is there some other way
[19:34] <Warwolt_> erUSUL_: Yeah, several times actually.
[19:34] <MeanEYE> cinnabarisland12: I'd still try one more time configuring connection manually (editing it actually) and then applying to whole system
[19:34] <MeanEYE> sadff: with nick plz... it's chaos here ;D as you can see
[19:34] <Somelauw> compiz is cool
[19:34] <erUSUL> Warwolt_: maybe windows does not exist in your install ... run this in a terminal « nautilus ~/.wine/drive_c/ »
[19:34] <ThinkT510> sadff: you can tabcomplete names in irc
[19:34] <lisandros> MeanEYE, http://pastebin.com/gwdwgwip
[19:34] <bittyx-laptop> hi guys! i've got a philosophical question about permissions. say i want to run a command that's only accessible to su, like apt-get install. now, for some reason, i want to call this command from a script. how is this handled? are the permissions checked on whether the owner of the script file has su permissions, or the user who starts the script (regardless of it's owner), or both?
[19:34] <cinnabarisland12> MeanEYE: lol how do I do that? (total noob :( )
[19:34] <erUSUL> !tab | sadff
[19:35] <lisandros> MeanEYE, i think thats it
[19:35] <rob_p> sadff: Type the first 2 or 3 letters of the person's nick and hit tab to complete it.
[19:35] <sadff> cool ...thanks all
[19:35] <erUSUL> bittyx-laptop: run « sudo script  »
[19:35] <Warwolt_> erUSUL_: I'm in! Thanks, should be able to navigate me from here!
[19:35] <Somelauw> sa[tab]
[19:35] <Somelauw> s[tab]
[19:35] <MeanEYE> cinnabarisland12: you have that connection manager thing in panel right?... then right click on it and go to edit connections... while editing... there's a checkbox saying "Available to all users"
[19:36] <User_007> soreau, i installed some packages an now it's working
[19:36] <Jasonn> bittyx-laptop: add sudo in front, and then you will have to enter your password, you can also add it to the visudo list so ou dont have to enter your password.
[19:36] <User_007> ty
[19:36] <MeanEYE> lisandros: type now ./hon.sh
[19:36] <MeanEYE> lisandros: don't forget ./
[19:36] <kira> bonjour
[19:36] <cinnabarisland12> MeanEYE: ok I'll install again and try that
[19:37] <cinnabarisland12> MeanEYE: thanks for the help
[19:37] <bittyx-laptop> Jasonn: so it doesn't matter who created the file, the user who starts it needs su permissions?
[19:37] <Jordan_U> bittyx-laptop: Correct.
[19:37] <lisandros> MeanEYE, http://pastebin.com/6WaZm6QU
[19:37] <MeanEYE> bittyx-laptop: sudo command... but user will always be asked about it
[19:37] <Jasonn> bittyx-laptop: or you can put into the visudo list and then you wont have to enter password
[19:37] <MeanEYE> cinnabarisland12: np :D
[19:38] <MeanEYE> lisandros: nothing I can help you with... you can contact game developers with log file and try with them
[19:38] <Jordan_U> bittyx-laptop: With compiled executables you can use the setuid bit to change that but 1: DO NOT DO THAT, setuid is a serious security vulnerability on anything but the most well audited code and 2: You can't use the setuid bit with scripts.
[19:38] <lisandros> MeanEYE,  ty for ur time
[19:39] <MeanEYE> lisandros: sorry I was unable to help
[19:39] <lisandros> MeanEYE,  you did much dud:)
[19:39] <bittyx-laptop> Jasonn: if i put it in visudo, that means that anyone can then do "sudo script" and it will run?
[19:39] <liddell> Hi!
[19:39] <MeanEYE> liddell: hi
[19:39] <bittyx-laptop> Jasonn: and the script can call whatever sudo app it needs, right?
[19:39] <Jasonn> yeah
[19:40] <liddell> I'm having this bug I run into all the time where I reboot after a crash and my network displays as "Unmanaged" after that. In trying to fix it I seem to have deleted my nm-system-settings.conf file. Is there a command to recreate it, or would one of you helpful people post the contents of yours so I can manually transcribe it? Thanks!
[19:40] <Jordan_U> bittyx-laptop: Are you trying to accomplish something in particular?
[19:41] <bittyx-laptop> well, a question in #php got me thinking about it. if php needs to call a shell script to do some stuff (and by some stuff, i mean something that only a su could do), what would be necessary to accomplish that safely.
[19:41] <MeanEYE> liddell: /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf?
[19:41] <liddell> Yeah
[19:41] <bittyx-laptop> ie. you could give apache su permissions, but that's just asking for trouble
[19:41] <erUSUL> bittyx-laptop: first stop using php if you want security ;P
[19:41] <bittyx-laptop> so i was trying to figure a way to do it safely
[19:42] <jiltdil> should i give half-half space to host os and virtual box os?
[19:42]  * erUSUL just trolling
[19:42] <bittyx-laptop> erUSUL: i see :P
[19:42] <shlm> hello there
[19:42] <jiltdil> means half half size of my total hdd
[19:42] <MeanEYE> liddell: sudo dpkg-reconfigure network-manager
[19:43] <bittyx-laptop> erUSUL: it's not that php is inherently unsafe (most software is, more or less), it's that php is really a magnet for new programmers, who don't pay attention to security
[19:43] <svirik1> Hello,i got bug in my Ubuntu 10.10: When i switch to another (Rus) language my left mouse's button stop working, whats wrong, and how can i fix it?
[19:43] <bittyx-laptop> so it has a bad rep because it's being used improperly :P
[19:43] <jiltdil> channel for bactrack?
[19:43] <MeanEYE> jiltdil: RAM?
[19:43] <oDesk> hello all,  after upgrade to 11.04 the mouse vertical scroll isn't working
[19:43] <jiltdil> MeanEYE? no hd space
[19:43] <brontosaurusrexw> bittyx-laptop, an example?
[19:43] <liddell> MeanEye: Neat, thanks! Testing it now...
[19:43] <MeanEYE> jiltdil: with virtual box?
[19:43] <oDesk> that's on the usb mouse not the touch-pad one
[19:43] <ThinkT510> !backtrack | jiltdil
[19:43] <MeanEYE> liddell: np
[19:44] <bittyx-laptop> brontosaurusrexw: an example of what? php being used improperly?
[19:44] <brontosaurusrexw> bittyx-laptop, yes
[19:44] <fawkes> test
[19:44] <Gagatan_> MeanEYE: no changes even with rebooting with both screens up. with karmic it found both screens and I could disable one of them if I liked to. now it only find 1 screen but its undetected
[19:44] <jaympo_> fawkes, passed
[19:44] <jiltdil> MeanEYE:yes?
[19:45] <Gagatan_> MeanEYE: and Fn-F8 one or more tries doesn't work either
[19:45] <MeanEYE> Gagatan_: and the function key is not working?
[19:45] <MeanEYE> damn
[19:45] <Gagatan_> it blanks the screen, and then returns
[19:45] <shlm> i got a folder on /var/www/website1, where that folder is owned by user1 but /var is owned by root and www too , my question is the user1 is he able to make a changes on his directory, which website1 ?
[19:45] <bittyx-laptop> brontosaurusrexw: well i dunno, for example, if you hang out in #php, a lot of newbies come and paste their code asking for help. half of that code is full of sql injection possibilities. sometimes they just call eval on something a user does, or shell_exec in a way that enables a user to start anything they want
[19:45] <MeanEYE> jiltdil: vbox makes virtual drives as files on linux file system, so there's no need to leave space for it
[19:46] <brontosaurusrexw> bittyx-laptop, ok
[19:46] <MeanEYE> shlm: no, every file and directory has its own permissions and system obeys those permissions
[19:46] <MeanEYE> shlm: user should be able to make changes to it
[19:47] <svirik1> Hello,i got bug in my Ubuntu 10.10: When i switch to another (Rus) language my left mouse's button stop working, whats wrong, and how can i fix it? can anyone talk about it in privat room?
[19:47] <bittyx-laptop> brontosaurusrexw: any specific reason you've asked?
[19:47] <bittyx-laptop> svirik1: does your right mouse button work?
[19:47] <MeanEYE> Gagatan_: you got me stuck. :)... problem with resolution is that screens are in mirror mode and max resolution represents max resolution of your laptop monitor
[19:47] <svirik1> Yes
[19:48] <brontosaurusrexw> bittyx-laptop, just that people keep talking about silly newbs, while it appears to me that high level language should not really have low-level injection bugs possible, so to me it looks more like silly php in the 1st place
[19:48] <shlm> unfortunately not i done chmod -R 777 but my user can't do modification, what could be wrong ? MeanEYE
[19:49] <MeanEYE> shlm: did you check user and group?
[19:49] <Krycek> nah
[19:50] <brontosaurusrexw> bittyx-laptop, on the other hand, the very high level methods are so fricking abstract that most noobs will not understand them, or should i say non-professional coders
[19:50] <wildfire100> hello
[19:50] <W43372> Hi everybody.
[19:50] <bittyx-laptop> brontosaurusrexw: what? do you think php should, for example automatically escape user input? i consider myself a relatively experienced programmer, and i wouldn't want my language to do this for me.
[19:50] <Christopher> Hola.  I'm using ubuntu 10.10.  I did apt-get remove openoffice* so I could switch to Libreoffice and it made my title and task bars dissapear.  Then I went into recovery mode and reset X to default and now I can only get to CLI, and startx command crashes my computer and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does nothing.
[19:50] <MeanEYE> brontosaurusrexw: there's a saying... if you don't know why you are doing what your are doing then you are just macro that happens to breathe
[19:50] <shlm> i don't know how to check it MeanEYE
[19:50] <svirik1> bittyx-laptop plz look at your privat messages from me
[19:50] <bittyx-laptop> brontosaurusrexw: and if you really need such stuff, there are plenty of libraries that'll do that for you
[19:50] <MeanEYE> shlm: ls -l
[19:50] <wildfire100> hey, guys i think my bandwidth may be choking, how do i find out how much bandwidth i am using in uuntu please
[19:51] <Logan_> ]!om | svirik1
[19:51] <bittyx-laptop> brontosaurusrexw: apart from manually protecting yourself of course
[19:51] <Logan_> oops
[19:51] <Logan_> !pm | svirik1
[19:51] <erUSUL> Christopher: probably you removed half your desktop. install it again
[19:51] <MeanEYE> wildfire100: gnome-system-monitor :D (or in System -> Administration -> System Monitor)
[19:51] <erUSUL> Christopher: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:51] <ThinkT510> Christopher: libreoffice will be available in the next release
[19:52] <wildfire100> MeanEYE, i do not have System Monitor in my administarion, just system testing
[19:52] <MeanEYE> wildfire100: which os is it?
[19:52] <Christopher> erUSUL: thanks, i'll try that
[19:52] <wildfire100> MeanEYE,  dont worry i found it, just being stupid
[19:52] <brontosaurusrexw> MeanEYE, no, if you are a coder, then you code becouse you need to code, thats a pretty boring statement for me, i have certain ideas for example, and my coding sucks a bit, so, well, we are not all the same.
[19:52] <Christopher> ThinkT510: i know, but i just wanted to try it out :P
[19:52] <shlm> how to check the group permission ?
[19:52] <bittyx-laptop> brontosaurusrexw: i mean, the methods do exactly what they say. also, the man pages mostly mention the exploit possibilities (ie. they warn you to watch out for stuff). so it's mostly people not paying attention/reading thoroughly.
[19:53] <liddell> MeanEYE: So it did not seem to create the file, but it did create NetworkManager.conf, which has inside of it the tag I need to change to fix the issue [change managed=false to managed=true]. But I try to open it with a sudo Kate and it just says "No protocol specified. kate:cannot connect to X server :0"
[19:53] <bittyx-laptop> brontosaurusrexw: and sure, php has bugs as well, but most languages do
[19:53] <MeanEYE> brontosaurusrexw: it's not a boring :D statement... you need to knoe why something is good and something is not... programming is not copy pasta
[19:53] <wildfire100> how do i know if my bandwidth is choking MeanEYE ??
[19:53] <dcorbin_wrk> Is there an apt.sources location I can use that is specific to Ubuntu 9.1?
[19:53] <ThinkT510> !9.10 | dcorbin_wrk
[19:54] <gakhan> liddell, use console editor like nano
[19:54] <MeanEYE> liddell: gksu kate , sudo is terminal command
[19:54] <brontosaurusrexw> MeanEYE, you need to know what your doing is the same as : spend a life-time reading about coding, and the answer is NO of course :)
[19:54] <bittyx-laptop> brontosaurusrexw: also, apps/companies that need high security should hire a dedicated security expert anyway, since it's a rather different discipline from programming in general
[19:54] <vooze> MeanEYE: hey, found a little solution to the 3g modem thing.. Seems it just "takes" a while for it to fully connect.. it runs 3½ mbit now, and with a bit better ping..
[19:54] <svirik1> i got bug in my Ubuntu 10.10: When i switch to another (Rus) language my left mouse's button stop working, whats wrong, and how can i fix it?(Right button works well)
[19:54] <denverdave> ok im back with new problems lol cant get screen past 640x480 have tried searching but cant run tools as they are too big for screen
[19:54] <MeanEYE> brontosaurusrexw: ofc no... :D but there are no universal solutions... am just saying
[19:54] <shlm> how to check the group permission ? MeanEYE
[19:55] <wildfire100> MeanEYE, ??
[19:55] <MeanEYE> vooze: great thing, thanks for letting me know
[19:55] <MeanEYE> wildfire100: in system monitor there's resources tab... there you can see down/up speed
[19:55] <brontosaurusrexw> bittyx-laptop, well anyway, may latest 'app' got like 10000 unique hits in a year and its still up, so i have some basic clues....
[19:55] <dcorbin_wrk> ThinkT510: I find nothing that that answers the question.
[19:56] <wildfire100> ok
[19:56] <gakhan> lol ubity uses Win+# shortcuts
[19:56] <ThinkT510> dcorbin_wrk: sorry, i thought it might have links to 9.10 repos
[19:56] <wildfire100> MeanEYE,  its because my minecraft is really laggy, my pc specs are fine though
[19:57] <MeanEYE> gakhan: that's not actually :D windows key, it's just another mod key... if you take a look at System76 laptops they have ubuntu key there
[19:57] <bittyx-laptop> brontosaurusrexw: i didn't say anything about you, i'm just speaking in general.
[19:57] <MeanEYE> wildfire100: a whole bunch of things can cause that...
[19:58] <MeanEYE> wildfire100: little related to OS
[19:58] <denverdave> MeanEYE,  sorry to bug any ideas or links to get better resolution than 640x480?
[19:59] <MeanEYE> denverdave: hm, can you :D please repeat the whole problem... am not keeping track :D of the chat unless my nick is mentioned and even then am not that good :D
[19:59] <W43372> I just put 10.10 on a new netbook and it's not remembering some of my settings when I reboot, things like the clock and volume
[20:00] <brontosaurusrexw> bittyx-laptop, yeah, iam saying that things are lots of times very different that my appear from forums/chats, for example the other day i was trying to figure out why my international domain (unicode domain) is geting punnycode display in firefox, at the end i trashed directly to main country registrar and mozilla fundation not having a correct deal, so call me a noob editing apache till 3 in the morning ;)
[20:00] <denverdave> MeanEYE: I just fired up my ubuntu hd, on it now, and cant get any better resolution than 640x480 cant use tools as they are off the screen
[20:01] <phet> hi
[20:01] <phet> how can I install ubuntu on a usb disk?
[20:01] <MeanEYE> denverdave: hm, which graphics card?
[20:01] <ThinkT510> !usb | phet
[20:01] <Jinxed-_> How would I start certain bash scripts (some at root some at user level) to start automatically when ubuntu boots in a way that I could connect with the terminals to view the scripts when I wanted to but I could also close the windows?
[20:01] <phet> ubottu: thank you
[20:02] <MeanEYE> ThinkT510: thanks, you are quite fast with commands :P
[20:02] <phet> ThinkT510: thank you
[20:02] <ThinkT510> MeanEYE: thanks
[20:02] <ThinkT510> phet: pleasure to help
[20:02] <MeanEYE> ThinkT510: I should probably learn more commands, :D might save me the trouble :D
[20:02] <wildfire100> MeanEYE,  what else can i do to stop my lag?
[20:03] <lusmus> where shall i install my programm?
[20:03] <MeanEYE> wildfire100: well am not sure, as it's most likely related to your ISP
[20:03] <lusmus> like jdk
[20:03] <wildfire100> whats my ISP
[20:03] <MeanEYE> wildfire100: internet service provider
[20:03]  * W43372 just lost the game.
[20:04] <MeanEYE> W43372: I'd like to help but I have no clue what the problem is...
[20:04] <MeanEYE> W43372: am just saying so you know you are not being ignored...
[20:04] <denverdave> MeanEYE: nvidia 220 gt
[20:04] <bittyx-laptop> brontosaurusrexw: yeah, but there are a lot of articles on at least a basic level of security. not bothering to read these (even though most tutorials will mention them) is just being ignorant.
[20:04] <wildfire100> ok, thanks
[20:04] <gakhan> lusmus, /opt
[20:04] <W43372> MeanEYE: My clock is wrong every time I reboot.
[20:05] <MeanEYE> denverdave: do you have drivers installed?
[20:05] <lusmus> gakhan: opt folder?
[20:05] <MeanEYE> W43372: to which time clock resets?
[20:05] <iplaythisgame> I used  update-rc.d /etc/init.d/sickbeard.sh defaults     but on reboot I dont see it running   (headless)  I have the same problem with my dropbox service.   Is there a way to tell if the program is somehow ending itself prematurely or even started at all?
[20:05] <gakhan> yes
[20:05] <MeanEYE> lusmus: what program?
[20:05] <W43372> MeanEYE: Do what?
[20:05] <lusmus> MeanEYE: JDK
[20:06] <zak_> how to start google chromium fro mkonsole , it cant start from the cassical menu
[20:06] <MeanEYE> lusmus: you have jdk in repos...
[20:06] <jaympo_> zak_, chromium-browser
[20:06] <MeanEYE> zak_: google-chrome
[20:06] <guntbert> iplaythisgame: usually you search the logs in/under /var/log
[20:06] <iplaythisgame> guntbert: any specific log?
[20:06] <MeanEYE> W43372: when you restart your computer what time is on your clock
[20:07] <W43372> MeanEYE: It's different every time.
[20:07] <lusmus> MeanEYE: lol and i did compile it by my self lol
[20:07] <liddell> MeanEYE: Okay I don't have gksu installed, but I used Nano to edit the file and got the ethernet working, but the wireless is still missing. I vaugely recall last time this happened having to enable something by editing another file, something having to do with interfaces and eth0, eth1, etc. Any insight there? If not, thanks for your help up to this point!
[20:07] <MeanEYE> W43372: is it like + or - some hours from your time?
[20:07] <W43372> MeanEYE: It's about five hours behind.
[20:07] <denverdave> MeanEYE: It appears i do
[20:07] <cinnabarisland12> MeanEYE: hey, thanks very muchly for the 'Available to all users' trick for the network, I don't know why or how it worked but it did :-D
[20:07] <guntbert> iplaythisgame: the general log is /var/log/syslog, but there are other ones and your applications may have their own ones
[20:07] <W43372> MeanEYE: Like my timezone is right, and it lists the right city, the time is just off.
[20:08] <denverdave> MeanEYE: I just cant get better resolutions in the list when I run the nvidia config too
[20:08] <MeanEYE> W43372: then your clock might be in the wrong time zone...
[20:08] <MeanEYE> denverdave: :/ tried reconnecting monitor?
[20:08] <denverdave> MeanEYE: not yet
[20:08] <MeanEYE> W43372: hm, and it's always 5 hours behind?
[20:08] <lusmus> do'h cant scroll uup on this irssi or i dont really know :/
[20:09] <jwtiyar> i didnt know and i erased my usb card from make usb creater and can't mount , how to fix it?
[20:09] <MeanEYE> cinnabarisland12: np:D... you probably didn't have keychain so it was unable to remember password... making it global helps :D everytime
[20:09] <MeanEYE> lusmus: pg up/down
[20:10] <denverdave> bbiab
[20:10] <MeanEYE> liddell: can you fill me in again what is it you are trying to do... I keep forgetting, sorry
[20:10] <lusmus> MeanEYE: how shall i install to get jdk via repo?
[20:11] <MeanEYE> lusmus: sudo apt-get install default-jdk
[20:11] <itaylor57> !java | lusmus
[20:11] <MeanEYE> lusmus: that will probably install open-jdk but it's ok unless you insist on sun
[20:11] <gakhan> oracle
[20:11] <MeanEYE> itaylor57: jdk not jre
[20:11] <itaylor57> MeanEYE: sorry
[20:11] <MeanEYE> np :D
[20:12] <jwtiyar> any one can see my msg?
[20:12] <starwhale2011> hi all =)
[20:12] <MeanEYE> jwtiyar: yes we can
[20:12]  * starwhale2011 waves to all
[20:12] <W43372> MeanEYE: I guess I assumed that when I typed my city in it would pick the time zone on it's own. I just went in and fixed all of it.
[20:12] <ThinkT510> !find jdk | lusmus
[20:12] <lusmus> MeanEYE: Sun yEA
[20:12] <MeanEYE> liddell: ok got it... /etc/network/interfaces
[20:12] <MeanEYE> lusmus: anu particular reason?
[20:13] <MeanEYE> W43372: is it ok now?
[20:13] <liddell> MeanEYE: Whenever I do a hard reboot, my network manager says everything is 'Unmanaged" and I have to go into configuration files to change lines that say "mangaged=false" to managed=true" to get it up again, but it only seems to be fixing the ethernet connection this time around, and I would guess that it's because I deleted the Network manager config file earlier. [it's back now]
[20:13] <W43372> MeanEYE: Yeah, it's all good. But while I'
[20:13] <lusmus> MeanEYE: not really.. just use a while
[20:13] <MeanEYE> lusmus: go with open source... dont cave in to propriatary software ;D
[20:14] <MeanEYE> liddell: do you have gnome? because network manager could do all this for you automatically
[20:14] <tzaeru> hi. tried to update to 11.4, and when updating xorg, ran into this: http://tinypaste.com/90106 basically it's a bunch of dependency problems in style of E: xserver-xorg-video-geode: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[20:14] <lusmus> ok.. but was the diffrents?
[20:14] <MeanEYE> tzaeru: there are problems with closed source drivers...
[20:14] <ThinkT510> !11.04 | tzaeru
[20:14] <W43372> MeanEYE:  But while I've got you here; I've noticed a few times when the machine is shutting down in the text part before it turns off there's a little red * and it says something about pulse audio, but the screen goes blank too fast for me to read anything about it
[20:15] <MeanEYE> lusmus: open-jdk is open source and it's not that optimized as sun's... though I didn't notice any difference
[20:15] <starwhale2011> if u want to talk to people privately (even though you probs already know this) enter /msg <nick> <message>
[20:15] <MeanEYE> W43372: messages can be found in /var/log/messages :D
[20:16] <tzaeru> MeanEYE, I'm not even trying to use them tho. well. to #ubuntu+1 ->
[20:16] <skrewler> i have a package I want aptitude to 'ignore' when doing aptitude upgrade and such.  how can i do this?
[20:16] <MeanEYE> tzaeru: if you have nvidia or ati, you won't be able to run X due to changes in Xorg server...
[20:16] <liddell> MeanEYE: I don't. [I'm in here because the Kubuntu channel is silent.] But I've had this exact same problem several times with GNOME as well...
[20:16] <tzaeru> MeanEYE, well, I am aiming for the open drivers anyway
[20:17] <tzaeru> which actually are why I am updating: the PPA of the open drivers have mandatory stuff I need which isn't available on maverick's ppa
[20:17] <MeanEYE> liddell: well /etc/network/interfaces is the file you are looking for
[20:17] <MeanEYE> tzaeru: sorry I can't really help you much with 11.04. I didn't run it nor do I have experience with it. also being alpha version means it chages a lot so it's hard to support something like that, too unpredictable
[20:18] <liddell> MeanEYE: So I've got /etc/network/interfaces open in nano. Is there a place you might know of on the web where I can find what it's supposed to look like? Or I could transcribe it here if you know how to parse it...
[20:18] <MeanEYE> liddell: sure let me find it
[20:18] <iplaythisgame> guntbert: in boot.log    its calling it, cut saying  /home/administrator/.sickbeard  No such file or directory?  Any idea
[20:18] <MeanEYE> liddell: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10078
[20:18] <jiltdil> can we use ssh via virtual box OS to connect to   host OS and how?
[20:18] <ssureshot> how can I tell if my usb ports are 1.1 or 2.0?
[20:18] <ssureshot> through the os
[20:19] <gakhan> jiltdil, what is host os?
[20:19] <MeanEYE> jiltdil: you can, there's a vbox virtual network adapter... if you have ssh set up in guest os, check it's ip and just ssh ip
[20:19] <jiltdil> gakhan:ubuntu
[20:19] <MeanEYE> ssureshot: lsusb... should say if your hubs are 2.0
[20:19] <jiltdil> MeanEYE:thanx
[20:19] <gakhan> jiltdil, then start  ssh demon and enable connections from VMs subnet
[20:19] <MeanEYE> jiltdil: np
[20:19] <esperegu> is it possible to see how a program was compiled? (with which configure options??)
[20:20] <ssureshot> MeanEYE: ah I completely missed that one.. thank you
[20:20] <MeanEYE> esperegu: not really
[20:20] <Pumpkin-> esperegu: only if the program provides a method. Some do, some don't.
[20:20] <guntbert> iplaythisgame: sorry, I have no idea about sickbeard -- does /home/administrator exist?  does an account administrator exist at all? if yes you could try to create that directory
[20:20] <MeanEYE> ssureshot: np :D that's why we are here
[20:20] <Pici> esperegu: Take a look at the build logs on launchpad for that program.
[20:20] <Pici> ssureshot: s/program/source package/
[20:20] <Jordan_U> esperegu: Yes, look at the source package.
[20:20] <W43372> MeanEYE thanks but i gotta go
[20:20] <jiltdil> hi m new to ubuntu how to start ssh in it as i know service sshd start but it doenot workingin ubuntu
[20:20] <MeanEYE> Pici: I think he's saying about configure --with-this --with-that stuff
[20:21] <Pici> ssureshot: sore, wrong person.
[20:21] <Pumpkin-> that works too, if the program you are refering to is one thats come out a package.
[20:21] <Pici> MeanEYE: Yes, I realize that.
[20:21] <ThinkT510> !ssh | jiltdil
[20:21] <ssureshot> pici: lol I was wonderin lol
[20:21] <Jordan_U> jiltdil: sudo service ssh start
[20:21] <esperegu> Jordan_U: I have the source. but I want to know which options they used to compile the current binary I have ;-)
[20:21] <Pici> esperegu: A package thats in Ubuntu?
[20:21] <Jordan_U> esperegu: Do you have the source *package*? It contains all of the rules used to build the binary package.
[20:23] <gakhan> jiltdil, what netstat -l --inet says?
[20:23] <GaryD> If I install nouveau-firmware on natty will it fix the issue of nouveau drivers not displaying all colors. My screen looks "grayed" out and most things are unidentifiable. If not, how can I use xserver-xorg-video-nv instead of xserver-xorg-video-nouveau?
[20:23] <jiltdil> jordan_u:thanx
[20:23] <nick> hey at all
[20:23] <Pici> GaryD: Natty support is in #ubuntu+1, not here.
[20:23] <iplaythisgame> guntbert: thats a user and it does exist, copy paste the cd command and it goes there.  The directory is there and it has the files in it.  I can run the sickbeard.sh update-rc-d is calling and the process starts no problems(which still has that line in it calling that directory)  Is there a reason home directories wouldn't show up till later in the boot?.
[20:24] <Jordan_U> jiltdil: You're welcome.
[20:24] <Will09600> hi
[20:24] <GaryD> Pici: thanks.
[20:24] <jiltdil> jordan_u: but it says ssh: unrecognized service
[20:24] <guntbert> iplaythisgame: only if they are on a separate volume, mounted later (in my opinion)
[20:25] <gakhan>  lol what'
[20:25] <Will09600> does anyone know how to use remastersys correctly ?
[20:25] <gakhan> s ipp tcp service?
[20:25] <lusmus> hm how do i run a jar file that is red?
[20:25] <DerSuperGeilerHa> eure videos sind schlecht muhaha
[20:25] <lusmus> in ls
[20:26] <epicenter> I hope this is a simple Q: I have onboard video and that works awesomely. But I also have a PCIe video card hooked up to a 2nd monitor and out of the box, ubuntu isn't firing it up.
[20:26] <epicenter> Thx for any help
[20:26] <jiltdil> gakhan:Active Internet connections (only servers)
[20:26] <jiltdil> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State
[20:26] <jiltdil> tcp        0      0 localhost.localdoma:ipp *:*                     LISTEN
[20:26] <jiltdil> udp        0      0 *:mdns                  *:*
[20:26] <jiltdil> udp        0      0 *:56644                 *:*
[20:26] <FloodBot1> jiltdil: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:26] <MeanEYE> lusmus: as a security measure you need to set executable bit to that file
[20:26] <gakhan> lusmus, red == broken symlink
[20:26] <esperegu> Jordan_U: were to find a source package+
[20:26] <gakhan> jiltdil, ssh daemon notr running on your system
[20:27] <lusmus> MeanEYE: how?
[20:27] <MeanEYE> lusmus: chmod +x file.jar
[20:27] <lusmus> MeanEYE: oh ok
[20:27] <jiltdil> gakhan: yes but how to install m using ubuntu firstly and its command is quite opposite to red hat so m confused tell me
[20:28] <ubuntu_> .t'
[20:28] <jiltdil> gakhan: service sshd start didn't work here
[20:29] <iplaythisgame> guntbert: maybe it has something to do with encryption    same disk but i think i used the ecrypted home option
[20:29] <gakhan> jiltdil, had you installed 'ssh' package>
[20:29] <jiltdil> gakhan: ok buddy i installed it
[20:29] <jiltdil> gakhan:its acttive now
[20:31] <DerSuperGeilerHa> helllolooo obdpsdfhglkusdhgsd
[20:31] <DerSuperGeilerHa> tsd
[20:31] <DerSuperGeilerHa> gfs
[20:31] <DerSuperGeilerHa> dr
[20:31] <DerSuperGeilerHa> wet
[20:31] <FloodBot1> DerSuperGeilerHa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:31] <DerSuperGeilerHa> we
[20:31] <Tita02> hi :)
[20:31] <MeanEYE> as if freenode is from yesterday
[20:31] <guntbert> iplaythisgame: that is possible, but as I have no idea about sickbeard I'm afraid I cannot help you -- wait: for testing you could create another user without encrypted home directory (and sudo right) and set up sickbeard from that new account
[20:32] <liddell> MeanEYE: I'm trying to figure out how to add a wireless interface here in the /etc/network/interfaces file and I can't seem to pin it down. I tried adding another few lines to it only changing the eth0 to eth1, but that just added another wired connection...
[20:32] <kwtm> Hi. Anyone use playdeb.net for repositories of Ubuntu games?  Is there any reason to distrust them, security-wise?  (trojans, etc.)
[20:33] <MeanEYE> liddell: ifconfig -a will list all interfaces
[20:33] <gakhan> liddell, you can see what interface was assigned in system log
[20:34] <gakhan> *which
[20:34] <arand> kwtm: Depends if you trust the four people responsible.
[20:34] <epicenter> I hope this is a simple Q: I have onboard video and that works awesomely. But I also have a PCIe video card hooked up to a 2nd monitor and out of the box, ubuntu isn't firing it up.
[20:34] <liddell> MeanEYE: okay I have eth0 and lo [I deleted the extra wired one I added already]
[20:34] <epicenter> Thx for any help
[20:34] <arand> kwtm: https://launchpad.net/~getdeb-package-managers/+members
[20:34] <MeanEYE> liddell: I've never configured wlan that way... only lan
[20:34] <grendal_prime> hey guys im trying to zip something with ..just...well zip.  and im calling a scrpt from /home/user/  but the files i want to zip are in /home/user/stuff/ziptheseup.  when i open the zips up they have all that path info inside the zip....whats the switch for have it dump the path and just zip the stuff that is in the dir i specify.
[20:35] <liddell> gakhan: As in see what interfaces I had before all this? That sounds incredibly useful! Where would I find the system log?
[20:35] <arand> kwtm: In general, I think playdeb is trusted amongst the community.
[20:35] <MeanEYE> grendal_prime: just cd in script... easiest :D
[20:35] <gakhan> liddell, less dmesg
[20:35] <grendal_prime> grrr
[20:35] <MeanEYE> grendal_prime: ?!
[20:36] <grendal_prime> im calling it from inside php.
[20:36] <kwtm> Thanks arand.  I know (of) Joao Pinto.  I'll go ahead and trust them.
[20:36] <MeanEYE> grendal_prime: then cd /to/whereever && zip...
[20:36] <grendal_prime> dont like having to do that...i thought there was a switch like -t target..
[20:36] <MeanEYE> grendal_prime: let me check
[20:37] <Tita02> I have really newbie question. I have problem with connection to any other then ubuntu server.... Does anyone have experiance with this?
[20:37] <liddell> gakhan: Woah thats a lot of info. What am I looking for in here?
[20:37] <atpa8a> hello
[20:37] <grendal_prime> ill try it this way but you know..kinda sucks to do that in some casses
[20:37] <atpa8a> any idea how i can check if a sysvinit script is run during boot or manually?..
[20:37] <tsimpson> grendal_prime: -j
[20:38] <ThinkT510> liddell: what is the output of iwconfig?
[20:38] <gakhan> liddell, for lines which mention your wireless device
[20:38] <grendal_prime> ive been scouring that manpage where did you find that
[20:38] <grendal_prime> or how for that matter
[20:38] <MeanEYE> grendal_prime: well, it's not an ugly solution... am looking at switches now and zip doens't have anything like that
[20:38] <tsimpson> grendal_prime: in the man page ;)
[20:38] <MeanEYE> grendal_prime: common knowledge I guess... I did some "backuping" with tar :D
[20:38] <tsimpson> grendal_prime: somewhere around line 654 for me
[20:39] <liddell> gakhan: As in, Belkin Wireless? Or is it coded to something like eth1 sort of thing?
[20:39] <grendal_prime> ya MeanEYE its -j
[20:39] <grendal_prime> i just didnt see it there thanks tsimpson
[20:39] <MeanEYE> grendal_prime: oh yea I see it
[20:39] <MeanEYE> stupid me :D
[20:39] <tsimpson> :)
[20:39] <liddell> ThinkT510: "lo: no wireless extensions. eth0:no wireless extensions"
[20:39] <gakhan> liddell, it depends on driver; and it should have it's ethX name and MAC listed
[20:40] <grendal_prime> dont feel bad ive been looking at the man page for like 10 min couldnt find it
[20:40] <dv-> If I disable grsecurity RBAC can I use it together with apparmor or are the two totally exclusive?
[20:40] <gakhan> grendal_prime, /text
[20:41] <gakhan> also ?text
[20:41] <MeanEYE> today is just not my day... :D too many mistakes
[20:42] <bastidrazor> MeanEYE: maybe you should be called stinkEYE
[20:42] <MeanEYE> why is that?
[20:42] <epicenter> I hope this is a simple Q: I have onboard video and that works awesomely. But I also have a PCIe video card hooked up to a 2nd monitor and out of the box, ubuntu isn't firing it up.
[20:42] <ThinkT510> MeanEYE: you're still helping people, keep it up. :)
[20:42] <MeanEYE> ThinkT510: thanks
[20:42] <epicenter> Where should I be looking to diagnose the issue?
[20:43] <ramzy_> lu all!! need help!! comment reactiver Gnome Login Manager??
[20:43] <MeanEYE> epicenter: bios first
[20:43] <ramzy_> lu all!! need help!! comment reactiver Gnome Login Manager??
[20:43] <liddell> gakhan: Okay I went through the whole log, the only reference to ethX is "eth0: no IPv5 routers present"
[20:43] <ramzy_> lu all!! need help!! comment reactiver Gnome Login Manager??
[20:43] <FloodBot1> ramzy_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:44] <[segfault]> !fr | ramzy_
[20:44] <ramzy_> join #ubuntu-fr
[20:44] <gakhan> liddell, it means your device was not recognized... or is missing firmware
[20:45] <[segfault]> ramzy_: use /JOIN instead of just join
[20:45] <lusmus> use j instead of join
[20:45] <lusmus> :
[20:45] <lusmus> :P
[20:45] <silentz0r> hello, how can I forward my speaker's audio to network using pulseaudio?
[20:45] <MeanEYE> lusmus: doesn't work always, since /j is an alias :D
[20:46] <Um_cara_Qualquer> how can i compress an iso file in several parts?
[20:46] <Um_cara_Qualquer> there's no "compress" option on right button menu
[20:47] <liddell> hmm
[20:47] <gakhan> is it safe to delete kernel modules?
[20:47] <earthmeLon> Im freaking out.  I can not delete/create playlists on my iPad using Rhythmbox.  I dont have to use Rhythmbox, but I would really like to be able to create/modify playlists, as well as delete songs.
[20:48] <GeekyAdam> is there anything that makes the shutdown command better or worse than using the runlevels method of shutting down or restarting a server?
[20:48] <guntbert> !runlevel | GeekyAdam
[20:48] <oCean> gakhan: not if you're planning on using them
[20:49] <gakhan> obviously I don't, noone asked me I want them
[20:49] <tsimpson> GeekyAdam: shutdown can also tell the system to power-down or reboot, rather than just halt
[20:49] <gakhan> 114 MB of bloatware
[20:49] <GeekyAdam> tsimpson: thank you
[20:49] <oCean> gakhan: no, not really
[20:51] <tsimpson> gakhan: if you can be absolutely, 100%, totally sure exactly what the module is for and that you will never need it, and moreover no other module will ever need it, then in that case... probably
[20:52] <darkjedi> How do I remove all the entries at boot
[20:52] <ThinkT510> !grub2 | darkjedi
[20:52] <Habstinat> Is there a terminal command or other way to keep a key held down?
[20:52] <bcraigdog> is there a channel for newbies using xubuntu? if so how do i get there?
[20:53] <tsimpson> bcraigdog: you can try #xubuntu
[20:53] <gakhan> bcraigdog, that channel is dead as xubuntu itself
[20:53] <MeanEYE> Habstinat: playing wow ?! :P
[20:53] <gakhan> Habstinat, adhesive tape
[20:53] <Habstinat> MeanEYE: Minecraft actually XD, want to stay in sneak mode.
[20:53] <ThinkT510> darkjedi: if you just want to remove some of the kernels from updates you can uninstall them via synaptic and grub2 will be updated
[20:54] <MeanEYE> Habstinat: haha, knew it... maybe make a signal emitter
[20:54] <darkjedi> I'm not sure which version of grub I have but every time I update it adds an entry
[20:54] <MeanEYE> or something like that
[20:54] <lusmus> cmon play runescape instead of minecraft :p
[20:54] <gakhan> darkjedi, remove the culprits
[20:55] <MeanEYE> Habstinat: did you try binding sneak to caps lock? :D might work :P
[20:55] <ThinkT510> darkjedi: in that case just uninstall them, make sure you uninstall the right ones
[20:55] <darkjedi> is there a command I can use in terminal
[20:56] <ThinkT510> !apt | darkjedi
[20:56] <Habstinat> MeanEYE: Just tried that... Nope.
[20:56] <MeanEYE> Habstinat: just an idea
[20:58] <Thedemon666> Hello
[20:58] <Thedemon666> I have an error that ubuntu does not start I is left with an error in the screen that says: error ath5k phy0: can't register ieee80211 hw
[20:58] <darkjedi> ok I had to install apt
[20:59] <Habstinat> MEANEYE: GOT IT: LET"S JUST SAY IT INVOLVES A STAPLER AND A LOT OF TAPE
[20:59] <MeanEYE> Habstinat: >:D haha, am more of a software guy
[21:00] <Thedemon666>  I have an error that ubuntu does not start I is left with an error in the screen that says: error ath5k phy0: can't register ieee80211 hw
[21:00] <[segfault]> darkjedi: You can type "sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.conf" and edit out the ones you don't want by putting # in front of them.  If you are running an older grub, you will want to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst instead.
[21:00] <Habstinat> MeanEYE: That was kind of a joke, obviously I would prefer a software solution if anyone has one
[21:01] <MeanEYE> Habstinat: I've never thought about that actually
[21:02] <sms74> hello
[21:02] <Thedemon666>  I have an error that ubuntu does not start I is left with an error in the screen that says: error ath5k phy0: can't register ieee80211 hw
[21:02] <sms74> first time using irc
[21:02] <MeanEYE> Habstinat: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=67115
[21:03] <MeanEYE> sms74: hi
[21:03] <Nexus-Wind> Hey how can I tell what a computer's CPU architecture?
[21:03] <Nexus-Wind> I dont think its i386
[21:03] <[segfault]> Nexus-Wind: uname -m
[21:03] <MeanEYE> Nexus-Wind: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[21:04] <MeanEYE> ooh, os architecture... :D I thought CPU
[21:04] <Nexus-Wind> I have a boot USB thats all
[21:04] <ivorensis> I installed all the bisigi themes and now I can't find a way to delete them. Any help
[21:04] <ivorensis> ?
[21:04] <darkjedi> ok gedit opens a blank txt
[21:04] <MeanEYE> ivorensis: installed  how?
[21:04] <Thedemon666> I have an error that ubuntu does not start I is left with an error in the screen that says: error ath5k phy0: can't register ieee80211 hw
[21:04] <Thedemon666> help
[21:05] <MeanEYE> ivorensis: using repository or just clicked install from appearance
[21:05] <MeanEYE> Thedemon666: is it a network card
[21:05] <[segfault]> darkjedi: did you try to edit menu.lst or grub.cfg?
[21:05] <sms74> is there an irc for windows7 ?
[21:05] <ivorensis> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bisigi/ppa, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install bisigi-themes
[21:05] <MeanEYE> sms74: no clue, doubt
[21:05] <anr78> Anyone here running Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro? I'm about to install, and wonder if I should go for 32 or 64 bit.
[21:05] <Thedemon666> 01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[21:05] <ivorensis> I want to delete them, MeanEYE.
[21:05] <MeanEYE> ivorensis: sudo apt-get remove bisigi-themes
[21:06] <ivorensis> Doesn't work
[21:06] <[segfault]> anr78: unless you have a special 64-bit application need, 32-bit is recommended for most folks.
[21:06] <MeanEYE> ivorensis: what doest it say
[21:06] <Thedemon666>   	
[21:06] <Thedemon666> 	
[21:06] <Thedemon666> If this error does not allow me to start ubuntu
[21:06] <FloodBot1> Thedemon666: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:06] <MeanEYE> Thedemon666: does the card work?
[21:06] <Thedemon666> ok
[21:06] <MeanEYE> Thedemon666: does the card work?
[21:06] <darkjedi> [segfault] I got gedit to open with grub.cfg nothing hapens with menu.lst
[21:07] <ivorensis> Oh, I think I managed to delete them with autoremove.
[21:07] <MeanEYE> ivorensis: ok
[21:07] <Thedemon666>   	
[21:07] <Thedemon666> 	
[21:07] <Thedemon666> the card was working just right that haora can not start ubuntu
[21:07] <FloodBot1> Thedemon666: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:07] <Krycek> I
[21:07] <[segfault]> darkjedi: well, depending on what version of grub you have, it will only open one or the other.  just edit out the entire menuentry section for each one you don't want in the list.
[21:08] <darkjedi> ok thanks
[21:08] <Thedemon666> I am running a live cd and the card works well
[21:08] <jj995> I've got a 3 monitor setup in Ubuntu 10.10, and when rdesktop is running in one monitor, the cursor is distorted inside the rdesktop window.  it doesn't happen on any other monitor though.  Any ideas what could cause this and how to fix it?
[21:09] <mongy> !grub2 | darkjedi
[21:09] <MeanEYE> jj995: sounds like a bug...
[21:09] <[segfault]> darkjedi: I also recommend backing up that file so you can restore it in case you manage to break something.
[21:09] <darkjedi> I have ubuntu 10.4
[21:09] <Nexus-Wind> MeanEye: I did  cat /proc/cpuinfo now what? How do I know which version of linux to use? regular linux isnt working
[21:09] <darkjedi> so I have Grub2 then
[21:10] <mongy> darkjedi, you edit /etc/default/grub to make changes, then sudo update-grun
[21:10] <[segfault]> darkjedi: yep
[21:10] <mongy> grub*
[21:10] <anr78> Why does www.ubuntu.com say that 32 bit is recommended? Is 64 bit still considered unstable?
[21:10] <MeanEYE> Nexus-Wind: what do you want to find out?
[21:10] <mongy> anr78, just the safe option if you dont know any better.
[21:10] <Nexus-Wind> which version of linux to use
[21:10] <mongy> anr78, if you have a 64bit cpu and 4gig+ ram, use 64bit, its fine.
[21:10] <Nexus-Wind> as in, my 'architechure' is different
[21:11] <Thedemon666> http://pastebin.com/nfXkVC9h
[21:11] <Nexus-Wind> im restoring a compaq presario 2200
[21:11] <anr78> mongy: yeah. I'm on a mac that satisfies both requirements :)
[21:11] <anr78> thanks
[21:11] <MeanEYE> Nexus-Wind: lsb_release -a will tell you which linux it is... uname -a will tell you cpu architecture
[21:11] <Nexus-Wind> thanks brb
[21:11] <mongy> anr78, I think ubuntu now uses the pae kernel if it detects more than 3gig of ram anyway so you get to use all your ram if you use 32bit
[21:11] <[segfault]> anr78: yeah, and if you want to run certain 32-bit binaries, you will have to install 32-bit libraries which is a hassle
[21:12] <gakhan> how to quit unity by keyboard?
[21:12] <mongy> anr78, I been 64bit since 9.10, works fine.
[21:13] <Thedemon666> Hello
[21:14] <guntbert> MeanEYE: uname -a will only tell you what kernel is installed (can be 32bit even if the cpu supports 64bit)
[21:14] <anr78> [segfault]: that was an argument *for* 32 bit, right?
[21:14] <gakhan> how to remove indicator with my username?
[21:14] <MeanEYE> yes that's true
[21:15] <anr78> I use 32 bits with pae at work
[21:15] <dgtl> hi there, is there currently a way to watch hdtv (as in 1080i) with ubuntu? is there an application such as kaffeine (uses libxine) which is able to use the VDPAU driver?
[21:15] <MeanEYE> gakhan: from unity?
[21:15] <gakhan> MeanEYE, yup
[21:15] <opaqe> hi
[21:15] <dgtl> i'm using ubuntu 10.10 btw.
[21:16] <[segfault]> anr78: well, the ia32-libs are a couple hundred MB to d/l plus some dependencies, so it's not that big a deal if you have a decent broadband connection, but there is really no performance to be gained on 64-bit
[21:16] <earthmeLon> Is there an application that works better than Rhythmbox at syncing apple devices (specifically the iPad)?
[21:16] <MeanEYE> guntbert: yes, you can run 32bit os on 64bit processors... but cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep name will tell you which processor is it so you can check if it supports 64bit
[21:16] <MeanEYE> gakhan: I don't think you can
[21:16] <earthmeLon> Playlist creation/deletion with Rhythmbox is not working for my iPad
[21:16] <mongy> if an app is 32bit only, then ia32libs is installed.  easy
[21:16] <yuzodo> earthmeLon, check my PM
[21:17] <gakhan> wow that shell is worse than gnome, an achievement of sorts
[21:17] <Thedemon666> error ath5k phy0: can't register ieee80211 hw
[21:17] <guntbert> MeanEYE: right :-)
[21:17] <earthmeLon> Thanks yuzodo, I'll try gtkpod
[21:17] <[segfault]> anr78: mongy: exactly... just depends on what you prefer to do, really.
[21:17] <jiltdil> iwhen i want to acess my host OS from virtual box OS via ssh it says connect to host ip port 22;network is unreachable but before sometime it is connectig to host OS
[21:17] <mongy> I see no reason to not use 64bit.
[21:18] <jiltdil> any idea?
[21:18] <anr78> 64 bit it is :)
[21:18] <dgtl> this sucks, still no easy way to watch hdtv (1080i) using linux
[21:19] <jiltdil> when i want to acess my host OS from virtual box OS via ssh it says connect to host ip port 22;network is unreachable but before sometime it is connectig to host OS
[21:19] <Green1> l
[21:19] <freewilly> just use mplayer, opengl is good too for hdtv
[21:19] <mongy> jiltdil, #vbox
[21:19] <[segfault]> mongy: the only reason I don't really recommend it when asked is because a new user may not know what to do when faced with 'file not found' trying to run a 32-bit app that is right there staring them in the face.  plus, a slow internet connection can be a pain to get those ia32-libs.
[21:20] <mongy> [segfault], slow internet can be a pain when getting ubuntu-restricted-extras which everyone is told to get to fix just flash :)
[21:20] <Thedemon666> I have an error that ubuntu does not start I is left with an error in the screen that says: error ath5k phy0: can't register ieee80211 hw
[21:20] <overclucker> jiltdil: are you running a ssh server on the box?, if so can you ping the box?
[21:20] <[segfault]> mongy: hehe, good point. :)
[21:20] <dgtl> freewilly, using opengl driver for 1080i content will let my cpu burn
[21:21] <jiltdil> overcluker:ping the vbox os or the host?
[21:21] <mongy> jiltdil, is it using nat for networking (your vm guest) (also, best place for this is #vbox)
[21:21] <dgtl> freewilly, and i dont wanna use mplayer for 'watching tv' come on..
[21:21] <yuzodo> mongy, how about just downloading chrome? comes with a built in flash
[21:21] <mongy> dgtl, I use mthtv
[21:21] <dgtl> it is a big pain that there is no application which does 1080i hdtv using vdpau
[21:21] <jiltdil> mongy: but 5 to 10 min before i was connecting via ssh to host
[21:21] <mongy> yuzodo, good point.
[21:22] <freewilly> ok then dgtl! i salute you
[21:22] <Nexus-Wind> where can I find an ubuntu for i686?
[21:22] <dgtl> mongy, i dont wanna set up mythtv, i dont want a mediacenter, i just want to watch tv every now and then
[21:22] <mongy> but at the end of the day, if downloading 100mb or more is a problem, dont use ubuntu (see updates + kernel_
[21:22] <mongy> dgtl, only other prog I know is metv
[21:22] <freewilly> aah mythtv still a mystery for me to set sql up
[21:22] <DenverDave> back still trying to get nvida 220 gt card to get past 640x480 resolution cant boot to single user mode screen wont come up
[21:23] <mongy> dgtl, tried vlc?
[21:23] <dgtl> mongy, me-tv doesn't seem to be able using the VDPAU driver
[21:23] <infid> MeanEYE: any idea why some flash videos will cache and i can see the cache file growing in ~/.cache/google-chrome/Default/Cache but then it stops caching and deletes itself. and if cp the file to /tmp when it reaches its max size it's still only not even half of the video?
[21:23] <dgtl> mongy, not yet, no, i have no compatible channels.conf which can be read my vlc
[21:24] <MeanEYE> infid: probably has to do something with HTML headers allowing caching or not
[21:24] <mongy> dgtl, thought there was a way to get vlc to scan?  I havent used it myself, just read somewhere.
[21:24] <DenverDave> meaneye: howdy again lol
[21:24] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: hi
[21:24] <MeanEYE> :D
[21:24] <MeanEYE> is this a sign am spending too much time here?
[21:25] <dgtl> mongy, me-tv is also using libxine compiled for vdpau (there is no binary libxine-package available which allready includes vdpau-functionality)
[21:25] <DenverDave> meaneye: nope Im a dope lol
[21:25] <mongy> infid, think its some 'feature' with the newer flash
[21:25] <dgtl> and compiling libxine with VDPAU is a bad pain
[21:25] <kasansweat> In the middle of using the default installer -- and I'm trying to figure out if the ntfs resizer is hanging or is just really slow-- i popped out into a terminal and am running "top" -- ntfs resize is switching back and forth from "running" to "uninterruptible sleep"
[21:25] <dgtl> tried it for an hour or so..
[21:25] <kasansweat> any ideas on that?
[21:25] <mongy> infid, if you are 64bit you can try the 64bit alpha/beta whatever plugin, that still uses plain /tmp I think.
[21:26] <iplaythisgame> Trying to use a script at boot with update-rc.d          I created a simple script to change the dir, which is what it's hanging on, called crap.sh      code:       http://pastebin.com/529dD6fL     this is giving a error "/etc/rc2.d/S99crap.sh: line 3: cd: /home/administrator/downloads: No such file or directory"  however if the script is only cd /home/administrator  it has no problems.  I think this may be related to an encry
[21:26] <dgtl> mongy, i will google over vlc scanning for channels, thx for the hint
[21:26] <MeanEYE> kasansweat: if ntfs is fragmented resizer will probably defragment
[21:26] <DenverDave> meaneye: I tried to install the latest nvidia driver but it said I was running X so I tried to boot to terminal but still says im running X so I tried telenit 1 and the screen has colors at top but no real screen
[21:26] <mongy> kasansweat, it can take a while,  would have been better to use windows tool of choice to resize.
[21:27] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: can you paste exactly what it said?
[21:28] <gilles__> how do i add to my panel my chat/email that comes originally with ubuntu install?
[21:28] <DenverDave> meaneye let me sign off from my laptop and log on from ubuntu.. care to suggest a better irc client than xchat?
[21:28] <gilles__> i had an error an had to delete it
[21:28] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: am currently using irssi
[21:28] <kasansweat> Is there any way to get a better idea of whether the ntfsresizer is hanging or not --  e.g. through ps or top, etc?
[21:28] <MeanEYE> terminal based
[21:29] <shiftingcontrol> how can i redirect wget o/p ex =>wget 'www.c.com/read.html' to directory content
[21:29] <DenverDave> meaneye: got ya let me try that instead
[21:29] <mongy> kasansweat, if iotop was installed maybe
[21:29] <DenverDave> bbiab
[21:29] <beachbum_Bob> Firefos's  Chatzilla    it's free
[21:30] <arand> MeanEYE: Resizer will probably not defragment afaik, if you are talking about gparted and such.
[21:30] <MeanEYE> arand: no I think he's refering to auto resizer during ubuntu installation
[21:30] <gilles__>  how do i add to my panel my chat/email that comes originally with ubuntu install? Evolution mail i think
[21:30] <kasansweat> aha -- perhaps the fact that ntfsresize stopped and mkfs.vfat started means I'm good to go -- thanks anyway folks
[21:31] <mgolisch_> gilles__: its named indicator applet
[21:31] <mongy> iin my experience, linux tools have taken a long time to resize because they move all the data, resize and move again
[21:31] <arand> MeanEYE: That one to, it will likely just see the FS as being largen thatn it is due to frgmentation, and honour that.
[21:31] <gilles__> and how do i add it again ?
[21:31] <AnubArack> what's a better alternative to Empathy ?
[21:31] <Nexus-Wind> ubuntu download available for i686?
[21:32] <mongy> right click, add to panel, indicator applet
[21:32] <gilles__> nvm .. found it
[21:32] <arand> AnubArack: pidgin, if you want multiple protocols
[21:32] <mongy> AnubArack, pidgin
[21:32] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: woo hoo
[21:32] <AnubArack> does it integrate into the "letter" icon next to the clock ?
[21:32] <MeanEYE> arand: not sure, since it never fails to resize ntfs
[21:32] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: welcome
[21:32] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: thanks.. what error would you like to see?
[21:32] <Jinxed-_> HoW can I get a script to run at startup with root access?
[21:33] <Nexus-Wind> MeanEye: can you help me? I cant find an ubuntu release for i686. I dont care if its jsut shell, ill install LXDE anyways
[21:33] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: forgot
[21:33] <mongy> Jinxed-, /etc/rc.local
[21:33] <MeanEYE> Nexus-Wind: either i386 or amd64
[21:33] <Jinxed-_> mongy: anyway I can do it without putting my script there?
[21:33] <[segfault]> shiftingcontrol: can you clarify that?
[21:33] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: lol np I am trying to install the latest nvidia driver but it says i am running X
[21:33] <MnCC> where can i find when the next kernel releases are planned ?
[21:33] <mongy> Jinxed-, its a file you put commands/scripts in
[21:33] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: ok ... did you try with jockey-gtk?
[21:33] <gilles__> how to i  add me connection settings.. where it indicated my wired connection ?
[21:34] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: no dont know how
[21:34] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: are you in X?
[21:34] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: yes
[21:34] <mongy> Jinxed-, I put apt-get clean in there for instance.
[21:34] <Nexus-Wind> meaneye: so i686 will work?
[21:34] <Nexus-Wind> I mean cant I get an ubuntu core of an old version for i686?
[21:34] <MeanEYE> Nexus-Wind: yes...
[21:34] <shiftingcontrol> [segfault]:in current directory i have sub directory called x ,wget 'someurl' o/p of wget should be stored in x directory
[21:35] <MeanEYE> Nexus-Wind: just go with i386
[21:35] <Nexus-Wind> I dont think it will work
[21:35] <Nexus-Wind> okay ill try
[21:35] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: System -> Administration -> Additional Drivers
[21:35] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: I have tried that but I cant see all the screen when that runs
[21:36] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: no biggie, open terminal and type jockey-text :D
[21:36] <DenverDave> MeanEYE:  doing that now one sec
[21:37] <SeshuCL> Hello can anybody help me set one of my pam module right next to pam_permit.so
[21:37] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: no output from jockey-text
[21:37] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: sorry jockey-text --list
[21:37] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: k running now
[21:38] <[segfault]> shiftingcontrol: try using the -P parameter and specify a directory like: wget -P x www.c.com/read.html
[21:39] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: results: xorg:nvidia_current - NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (Proprietary, Enabled, In use)
[21:39] <tripelb> )fumes, hating synaptic. I have never sucessfully installed anything with synaptic( all I want is libreoffice. I want to install it in TERMINAL, thank you very much.  --
[21:39] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: :/
[21:39] <shiftingcontrol> [segfault]:no i don't want wget to save the files in directory(host) from which it was run
[21:40] <ThinkT510> tripelb: libreoffice will be available in 11.04
[21:40] <Jinxed-_> mongy: how do I specify what level the script should be run at?
[21:40] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: yea tell me about it.. wondering why I dont have full range fo resolutions
[21:41] <[segfault]> shiftingcontrol: so you want wget to send whatever it downloads to a directory on another networked machine?
[21:41] <tripelb> ThinkT510: that's nice. but - I want to use this as a learning experience. "Can I?" install it in 10.04?
[21:41] <mongy> Jinxed-, you dont.
[21:41] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: do you have another monitor you can play with... am still aiming at that stuff...
[21:41] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: though you could try and install older version of driver
[21:41] <MeanEYE> but I doubt it will help
[21:41] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: negative on the monitor
[21:41] <tripelb> .. reading in google <epository libre office ubuntu>
[21:41] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: roger roger, what's your  vector victor
[21:41] <MeanEYE> :D
[21:41] <ThinkT510> tripelb: i'm not sure if it's in the backports repo, you could look for a ppa of it
[21:42] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: huh? lol
[21:42] <MeanEYE> ThinkT510: LO repo?
[21:42] <shiftingcontrol> [segfault]:not to other machine but in same machine in different directory
[21:42] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: flipping out, sorry
[21:42] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: love that movie
[21:42] <ThinkT510> !ppa | tripelb
[21:42] <tripelb> ThinkT510: I dont know what backports means, I dont know how to look for a ppa of it.
[21:42] <mongy> Jinxed-, well its like the last thing to run before X and desktop starts up, so its multiuser level
[21:42] <tripelb> ahhhh
[21:42] <ewok> hey hey im new here and to ubuntu, wanted to ask you people if you could help me...
[21:43] <mongy> tripelb, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/ppa
[21:43] <DenverDave> ewok: you found the right place
[21:43] <MeanEYE> tripelb: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:libreoffice/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[21:43] <[segfault]> shiftingcontrol: well, I don't think wget was really designed for that.. wouldn't moving files around be a task more suited to a ssh or telnet session?
[21:43] <ThinkT510> MeanEYE: thanks
[21:43] <tripelb> <3 MeanEYE
[21:43] <MeanEYE> ^^ mongy was faster
[21:43] <tripelb> ADDS to saved stuff that helps me
[21:43] <mongy> add libreoffice-gnome  also
[21:43] <fizy[laptop]> is there anywhere i can see a log of the ctrl alt f7 screen?
[21:44] <lyounion> 123
[21:44] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: how can i install older version of nvidia driver via cli?
[21:44] <MeanEYE> fizy[laptop]: nothign is logged, though there is a history
[21:44] <shiftingcontrol> [segfault]:ok,i write a python script which will use os.system and os.chdir to do that
[21:44] <fizy[laptop]> MeanEYE: how can i get to the history?
[21:44] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: jockey-text --enable=xorg:nvidia_173 or any other from the list
[21:44] <th0r> fizy[laptop]: alt-ctl-f1?
[21:44] <MeanEYE> fizy[laptop]: history
[21:44] <MeanEYE> :D
[21:45] <fizy[laptop]> th0r no the f7 screen
[21:45] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: I will go back 3 versions to see.. brb
[21:45] <MeanEYE> fizy[laptop]: history is merged I think...
[21:45] <lyounion> every body hello
[21:45] <MeanEYE> fizy[laptop]: history of commands, sorry for not being clear
[21:45] <th0r> fizy[laptop]: the f7 screen is X...and f1 used to show what was happening 'behind the scenes'....not sure if they have kept that in the latest releases
[21:46] <LeGambitteur> hi there
[21:46] <th0r> fizy[laptop]: also, you can see a lot of what is going on in /var/log/messages
[21:46] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: jockey-text --enable=xorg:nvidia_194
[21:46] <DenverDave> Unknown driver: xorg:nvidia_194
[21:46] <DenverDave> Use --list to see available drivers
[21:46] <ewok> yay ive just installed ubuntu today, not sure what i did wrong but it doesnt open, like it didnt exist, im sure its there but cant do like a dual boot along with my windows? finds only windows,
[21:46] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: am pretty sure I wrote 173
[21:46] <ThinkT510> !grub2 | ewok
[21:46] <DenverDave> MeanEYE:  let me try that
[21:47] <fizy[laptop]> th0r and MeanEYE i need to see a log of the f7 screen because my graphics card frequantly throws temper tantrums and i can see the f7 screen for like 1 frame every 5-15 seconds, so i cant tell what it says
[21:47] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: but you can list as well :D
[21:47] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: unknown driver
[21:47] <tripelb> MeanEYE: is this (on the page) the same? --- webpage http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/install-libreoffice-ppa-ubuntu/  --- trying to understand. Must go for a while now, IRL.
[21:47] <MeanEYE> fizy[laptop]: then check /var/log files...
[21:47] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: the list has only nvidia_current
[21:47] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: it does o_0
[21:47] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: do a --update-db
[21:48] <th0r> fizy[laptop]: go to F2 (-F6) and type 'tail -f /var/log/messages' that will follow the log and if your screen freezes the errors might show up there
[21:48] <crimsonmane> im sorry to ask here, perhaps someone will know. where can i go for VLC support?
[21:48] <fizy[laptop]> th0r what do you mean f2 (-f6)?
[21:48] <th0r> fizy[laptop]: there might be other logs that might help also....you could follow any of them in the same way
[21:48] <iceroot> crimsonmane: #vlc or #videolan
[21:48] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: jockey-text --update-db right?
[21:49] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: yea
[21:49] <th0r> fizy[laptop]: you should have virtual terminals in F1 through F6....any one should work
[21:49] <ewok> i have windows installed first, does it change anything? shouldnt ubuntu add it while installing? do you always have to do it manually?
[21:49] <Jinxed-_> mongy: what is multiuser level
[21:49] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: no change if I run with --list
[21:49] <th0r> fizy[laptop]: F2 through F6.....F1 is (I think) still the one running X
[21:49] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: fist with update then list... also try update with -m any
[21:49] <fizy[laptop]> no. th0r f8 is the one running the gui, and f7 is the one with the info i need
[21:49] <DenverDave> ewok: there are some great dual boot guides you should look at
[21:50] <ThinkT510> ewok: it should detect it automatically, do you see a boot list when you turn your computer on?
[21:50] <th0r> fizy[laptop]: ok....beena while since I looked <smile>
[21:50] <DenverDave> MeanEYE:  no change bro
[21:50] <ewok> no, thats why im asking, once it opened but found only windows
[21:50] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: weird let me check something
[21:51] <GatorAlli> Hellos, how can I set an existing file as an active cron script?
[21:51] <LeGambitteur> need some help guys
[21:51] <edbian> LeGambitteur, with what
[21:51] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: wanna try something different?
[21:51] <edbian> GatorAlli, Make a cron job.  Make the command point to the file
[21:51] <LeGambitteur> I'm using maverick, every time I reboot I need to change the visual settings
[21:51] <mongy> Jinxed-, just use rc.local, thats what its there for.
[21:51] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: with 640x480 resolution ill try anything lol
[21:52] <edbian> LeGambitteur, Can I see the pastebin of this: ls -la ~
[21:52] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:nvidia-vdpau/ppa
[21:52] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: then apt-get update and upgrade
[21:52] <skullboy> how do i get qingy working
[21:52] <fizy[laptop]> th0r is it neccessary to use a virtual terminal? my laptop's graphics card doesnt always survive graphics mode changes without throwing one of its signature temper tantrums
[21:52] <GatorAlli> Yeah im configuring an environment in python and I would like to set the cron job in only one command
[21:52] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: wait!
[21:53] <th0r> fizy[laptop]: you could try it in a terminal, but if the X screen freezes, I would expect the terminal to freeze also
[21:53] <GatorAlli> Without having to go into crontab
[21:53] <ThinkT510> DenverDave: have you tried specifying your own xorg.conf file
[21:53] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: ?
[21:53] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: nope how to do?
[21:53] <MeanEYE> wrong ppa :D
[21:53] <shamster_> hey all, is anyone familiar with the process of altering a nic's mac via /etc/network/interfaces?
[21:53] <th0r> fizy[laptop]: that is 'gnome-terminal' as opposed to the virtual terminals
[21:53] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: ran the command already hehe
[21:53] <MeanEYE> gah
[21:54] <fizy[laptop]> th0r it doesnt freeze. it goes on a loop. it shows nothing. then it shows black and white bars in the middle of the screen. then it shows the f7 screen. then the loop starts over again
[21:54] <edbian> skullboy, It looks quite elaborate: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/qingy
[21:54] <LeGambitteur> edbian: for all the files ?
[21:54] <edbian> LeGambitteur, I know it will be huge.  Please pastebin the entire thing.
[21:54] <th0r> fizy[laptop]: that you wouldn't be able to see the gnome-terminal anyway....so I suspect the vt is your best bet
[21:54] <GatorAlli> Can I set a cronjob without having to go into crontab?
[21:55] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates that's the right ppa... don't worry about the last one, no maverick in there anyway
[21:55] <edbian> LeGambitteur, I'm betting the settings aren't being saved properly in your home due to some permissions
[21:55] <th0r> fizy[laptop]: once in the vt you could check the logs in /var/log and see if there are any other indications of the problem as well
[21:55] <skullboy> edbain: already tryed that
[21:55] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: also install package named ppa-purge
[21:55] <edbian> GatorAlli, You can place scripts in the folders /etc/cron.XXXX
[21:55] <MeanEYE> just in case :)
[21:55] <fizy[laptop]> th0r i did it in gnome terminal, and it doesnt show anything usefull. does it only show stuff from one session?
[21:55] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: ok I cant scroll back what other commands do I need?
[21:56] <edbian> skullboy, I have no experience.  I was just pointing you to the guide.  Maybe you can be more specific and I can help.
[21:56] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: pg up/down for scroll but sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[21:56] <GatorAlli> So there's no way to set a cron job without having to open the crontab editor
[21:56] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: oh cool lol did that one
[21:56] <edbian> GatorAlli, Did you not see what I said?  You can place scripts in the cron folders in /etc/
[21:57] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: with this repo???
[21:57] <th0r> fizy[laptop]: I think /var/log/messages restarts with a reboot...but not sure
[21:57] <gus> hi there
[21:57] <fizy[laptop]> th0r the only way to get my graphics card to stop spazzing is to reboot :p
[21:57] <GatorAlli> Yeah but the specifications have to be more specific like on e every 15 minutes
[21:57] <gus> how to set variable on csh
[21:57] <edbian> GatorAlli, Then you have to edit cron
[21:57] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: yes with xswat repo
[21:57] <skullboy> edbain: never mind i figured it out
[21:57] <MeanEYE> gus: set?
[21:58] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[21:58] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: now running upgrade after update
[21:58] <edbian> skullboy, awesome :)
[21:58] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: be sure to install ppa-purge before restarting system
[21:58] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: roger Roger
[21:58] <MeanEYE> :D
[21:58] <hiexpo> hey all
[21:59] <m4rzh4ll> hi =)
[21:59] <th0r> fizy[laptop]: this might help http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-gnome-system-log-viewer/
[21:59] <Obituary37> hola
[21:59] <m4rzh4ll> italian speak?
[21:59] <Obituary37> spanish,xd
[21:59] <hiexpo> !it
[21:59] <iceroot> !it | m4rzh4ll
[21:59] <paszo2008bis> hi anybody using webmin on ubuntu 10.10 64bit ?
[21:59] <gus> MeanEye: I need to make happed a script in csh on crontab or nohup..I need to see if is a problem of $path how I can do that?
[21:59] <iceroot> paszo2008bis: not supported in ubuntu (and no reason to use it)
[22:00] <m4rzh4ll> !it
[22:00] <skullboy> paszo2008bis: go on
[22:00] <MeanEYE> gus: never used csh :/ sorry ...
[22:00] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: ok ran sudo apt-get install ppa-purge\
[22:00] <marsfligth> is it possible to have a search box in the applications menu like ms vista?
[22:00] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: I guess its reboot time eh?
[22:00] <paszo2008bis> the bootup and shutdown module seems not to work in webmin on ubuntu 10.10
[22:00] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: hm, did it upgrade nvidia-display-drivers
[22:01] <paszo2008bis> alls actions are marked as no (on bootup)
[22:01] <hiexpo> marsfligth, what you mean searchbox
[22:01] <skullboy> marsfligth: yes it is
[22:01] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: jockey-text --list time ?
[22:01] <MeanEYE> yeah sure
[22:01] <edbian> marsfligth, The easiest way is probably to use KDE
[22:01] <hiexpo> sure
[22:01] <Mike__> hi. why glxgears fps is so low (FPS=51) under macbook 2,1 (ubuntu 10.10).  Under mac os x is 2100...
[22:01] <paszo2008bis> iceroot : could you suggest any alternative ?
[22:01] <iceroot> paszo2008bis: ssh
[22:01] <crimsonmane> question please, if any knows... im trying to use VLC to convert from one format to another. what appears to be the progress bar shows Streaming and takes 1 to 15 seconds per 1 second of what i'm hoping is a conversation taking place. is there a faster method? reply via private message please, to keep the room on-top
[22:01] <marsfligth> hiexpo: I'm using Gnome
[22:02] <crimsonmane> topic* even
[22:02] <hiexpo> what you wanna search like a folder  marsfligth
[22:02] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: how to tellif it upgraded? jockey-text --list not very detailed
[22:02] <gus> how to  change wallpaper with csh script on crontab
[22:02] <MeanEYE> DenverDave: restart and see what happens
[22:03] <LeGambitteur> edbian: is it safe to post it here ?
[22:03] <DenverDave> MeanEYE: okies.. bbiab
[22:03] <hiexpo> !pastebin
[22:03] <edbian> LeGambitteur, no, use pastebin   (www.pastebin.com)
[22:03] <edbian> LeGambitteur, It isn't unsafe to post in the channel, it's just annoying to others and bad form
[22:03] <paszo2008bis> iceroot is this problem with last version of ubuntu or general problems with ubuntu?
[22:03] <LeGambitteur> ok
[22:04] <iceroot> paszo2008bis: i dont know, dont use webmin, use ssh, webmin is not supported in ubuntu/debian
[22:04] <erkan^> !compiz
[22:05] <marsfligth> hiexpo: I'm looking for a search field in the applications menu to search applications quickly. Exactly like vista
[22:05] <cutiyar_> my pidgin and empathy will damage suddenly i dont know why?
[22:05] <iceroot> !webmin | paszo2008bis
[22:05] <jakuza> test
[22:05] <EvilPhoenix> anyone here running 10.04: is there a python-nmap in your repository list(s)?
[22:05] <Omen_20> ok, im fully aware that Windows sucks compared to anything and everything... but this right here has got me near the point of breaking something.
[22:06] <paszo2008bis> ok i see thank you
[22:06] <denverdave> MeanEYE: YOU da man.. I know have a reasonable resolution thanks so mucn.. the beer is on me!!
[22:06] <guntbert> !ot | Omen_20
[22:06] <MeanEYE> denverdave: glad it helped :D though am a bit slow :P
[22:06] <ThinkT510> !yay | denverdave
[22:06] <MeanEYE> EvilPhoenix: on 10.10 there i s
[22:06] <iceroot> EvilPhoenix: only in 10.10
[22:06] <edbian> Omen_20, What is your problem?
[22:06] <hiexpo> marsfligth, hmm not quit understanding what ya wanna do do but ya can search and > apps if your unsure just open synaptic and use its search and it will help u
[22:07] <EvilPhoenix> *grumble* yet ANOTHER thing to stab the repo maintainers about
[22:07] <cutiyar_> iam identified?please any one answer
[22:07] <DasEi> EvilPhoenix: nope, sorry
[22:07] <denverdave> MeanEYE: slow and steady win the race
[22:07] <edbian> hiexpo, He wants a search for the applications that are already installed on his system.
[22:07] <iceroot> EvilPhoenix: why? at the time from 10.04 python-nmap was not stable
[22:07] <MeanEYE> denverdave: am so sleepy I thought about leaving :D ... you are lucky am still here... well am lazy that's why am here but :D still :P
[22:07] <MeanEYE> be happy
[22:07] <denverdave> now to figure how how to vbox over to my xp system
[22:07] <guntbert> cutiyar_: according to my client: no  - ask for help in #freenode
[22:08] <WXZ> does anyone know a table/spreadsheet editor where you can put a table inside a cell?
[22:08] <DasEi> EvilPhoenix: looked at zenmap ?
[22:08] <MeanEYE> WXZ: HTML!? :D
[22:08] <gus> some one know csh?
[22:08] <cutiyar_> guntbert, then u can see my msg?
[22:08] <WXZ> MeanEYE: would I have to write it myself?
[22:08] <iceroot> WXZ: LaTeX
[22:08] <EvilPhoenix> DasEi:  i need the python-nmap package, its required for a certain feature for an IRC bot being packaged into .deb
[22:09] <WXZ> iceroot: no
[22:09] <denverdave> gus you may want to try a Linux channel or solaris one hehehe
[22:09] <bio-tty> hi.  my network manager app disapeared from the tool bar.
[22:09] <bio-tty> i need it to enable a vpn.  i am talking about the network manager app icon on the tool bar.  it disapeared
[22:09] <MeanEYE> WXZ: there are some wysiwyg editors out there
[22:09] <EvilPhoenix> time to find someone willing to backport it
[22:09] <guntbert> cutiyar_: yes, what is your problem?
[22:09] <skullboy> WXZ: would you have to write what
[22:09] <bio-tty> how can i get it back?  (i do not see it in the add app menu)
[22:09] <iceroot> EvilPhoenix: have a look at the dependecies, maybe you can install the 10.10 version
[22:09] <WXZ> skullboy: the spreadsheet app
[22:09] <cutiyar_> ok ,   my pidgin and empathy will damage suddenly i dont know why?
[22:09] <WXZ> skullboy: I don't think it can be called an app though
[22:09] <mongy> bio-tty, check its enabled in startup applications
[22:09] <EvilPhoenix> iceroot:  gotta find the source first, and compiling stuff from source usually ends badly for me
[22:10] <hiexpo> edbian, the best way i think is use synaptic and click installed and read each one but i don't know
[22:10] <iceroot> EvilPhoenix: why? download the deb and use dpkg i filename.deb
[22:10] <WXZ> MeanEYE: so basically yes, I'll have to modify code
[22:10] <iceroot> EvilPhoenix: dpkg -i filename.deb
[22:10] <pattie> hi, anyone know how to get audio to work on a giada cube n3?
[22:10] <iceroot> EvilPhoenix: nothing to compile
[22:10] <MeanEYE> WXZ: sorry didn't follow, modify which code?
[22:10] <edbian> hiexpo, mmm, that is one way.  Little bit low level.  Also, he wants something in the menu
[22:10] <FloridaGuy> isent there a list of mirrors where you choose where you want to download from
[22:10] <skullboy> WXZ: no there is plenty of open source spread sheet apps
[22:10] <bio-tty> mongy: i checked now.  yes, it is enabled.  also the nm-app proces is running.
[22:10] <pattie> :(
[22:10] <pattie> everything else works..
[22:10] <WXZ> MeanEYE: wysiswyg editor code
[22:11] <WXZ> skullboy: yes, but I need a spreadsheet app where I can fit another table inside a cell
[22:11] <EvilPhoenix> iceroot:  know where i can download the .deb?
[22:11] <MeanEYE> WXZ: what's the goal with table inside table? Xibit style? :P
[22:11] <iceroot> EvilPhoenix: packages.ubuntu.com
[22:11] <cutiyar_> guntbert,  my pidgin and empathy will damage suddenly i dont know why?
[22:11] <bio-tty> mongy: seems to be just the app icon that is missing.  can i start it myself from a shell, by the way?
[22:11] <skullboy> WXZ: what the hell are you talking about
[22:11] <FloridaGuy> !mirrors
[22:11] <nospleen> hi, i am having wireless issues, i use the rt5090 or rt3090 driver. I have once before got it to recognize wireless networks, and it still would not accept the password, which works in all other computers. Now, however it will not even sho up in network mannager, meaning it does not even give me the choice for wireless...please help...the driver was somehow deleted but never really worked in the first place
[22:11] <mongy> bio-tty, that usually means your interface is managed by other means, like in /etc/network/interfaces
[22:11] <hiexpo> edbian, hmmm an do the command to output the entire output of everything installed long ashe has not compiled anything without checkinstall
[22:11] <WXZ> MeanEYE: for storing arrays, say you have a last name and you want the cell beside that last name to contain all the names of the members
[22:12] <DasEi> EvilPhoenix: well on own risk compile it then
[22:12] <ThinkT510> cutiyar_: what do you mean by "will damage suddenly"?
[22:12] <guntbert> cutiyar_: (I have no experience with pidgin or empathy), what do you mean by "damage"?
[22:12] <denverdave> MeanEYE: well thanks again, I need to hook up the other xp hd and see what I can do there.. take it easy man
[22:12] <skullboy> WXZ: what the hell are you talking about
[22:12] <MeanEYE> denverdave: np :D have fun
[22:12] <bio-tty> mongy: hmm.  i used it to activate a vpn.  how can i access this now then.  i would prefer having it back.
[22:12] <MeanEYE> WXZ: am not following you but ok...
[22:12] <mongy> bio-tty, you could try running it I guess in a run prompt 'nm-applet --sm-disable'
[22:12] <WXZ> skullboy: let me explain to MeanEYE first, because I can't explain to both
[22:12] <WXZ> or just listen along
[22:13] <cutiyar_> ThinkT510, for example in pidgin i click to accounts button the program stop and after 1 minute come back
[22:13] <FloridaGuy> http://releases.ubuntu.com/  ....isent what i want...i want to choose my download location
[22:13] <hiexpo> edbian, meant ^or
[22:13] <nospleen> hi, i am having wireless issues, i use the rt5090 or rt3090 driver. I have once before got it to recognize wireless networks, and it still would not accept the password, which works in all other computers. Now, however it will not even sho up in network mannager, meaning it does not even give me the choice for wireless...please help...the driver was somehow deleted but never really worked in the first place
[22:13] <bio-tty> mongy: would be good.  but it gives "Couldn't initialize the D-Bus manager"
[22:13] <CyberGabber> bio-tty: Please don't crosspost to #debian. Ubuntu and Debian colud be different, and there's already answerd in debian
[22:13] <bio-tty> CyberGabber: i asked the first question to both yes.  but then i chose the ubuntu channel only.
[22:14] <WXZ> MeanEYE: say I have a column, with a list of last names (corresponding to families); and beside each last name I want all the first names of the people in that family, I can ofcourse just seperate each first name with a space
[22:14] <mongy> bio-tty, Im not the best person to ask, I dont use any applet, I just use interfaces file for my wifi..
[22:14] <nospleen> hi, i am having wireless issues, i use the rt5090 or rt3090 driver. I have once before got it to recognize wireless networks, and it still would not accept the password, which works in all other computers. Now, however it will not even sho up in network mannager, meaning it does not even give me the choice for wireless...please help...the driver was somehow deleted but never really worked in the first place
[22:14] <WXZ> MeanEYE: but then, what if I want beside each first name the "family member type", i.e mother, father, daughter, son, pet etc.
[22:14] <bio-tty> mongy: maybe i can use the interface file for what i did from the applet?  should that be possible?
[22:14] <Polah> How do I set up Rhythmbox to work with Last.FM?
[22:14] <WXZ> MeanEYE: I can ofcourse do sally, daughter
[22:14] <WXZ> sorry, pressed space too early
[22:15] <MeanEYE> WXZ: I wish I could do sally as well :D
[22:15] <bio-tty> mongy: i see nothing mentioned about vpn in /etc/network/interfaces tho
[22:15] <skullboy> nospleen: mabie the wrong encryption type???
[22:15] <WXZ> MeanEYE: sally, daughter \n rob, father \n james, son etc.
[22:15] <mongy> bio-tty, what about your main interace?
[22:15] <nospleen> possibly, elaborate
[22:15] <cutiyar_> ThinkT510, u have an  idea about it?
[22:15] <nospleen> i know some command prompt but not in this area
[22:15] <CyberGabber> bio-tty: Did you already try a logout/login? ( or restart x-server )
[22:15] <WXZ> MeanEYE: but as you can already tell, that gets really, really messy
[22:15] <homosaur> is there a way to force apt-get or aptitude to reinstall and force overwrites of existing files?
[22:16] <WXZ> do you get the jist of what I'm trying to  do now though, and skullboy.. were you reading?
[22:16] <nospleen> skullboy what do you think
[22:16] <hiexpo> homosaur, just removeit and do a reinstall
[22:16] <bio-tty> CyberGabber: yes.  i figured there was a file i had moved, for vpn use, so i moved it back.  then i re-booted
[22:16] <ThinkT510> cutiyar_: sorry, i haven't experienced problems when using pidgin, not sure what would cause your delay
[22:16] <FloridaGuy> http://releases.ubuntu.com/    .dont want that....i want to choose the location where i download from
[22:16] <iceroot> homosaur: apt-get remove --purge foobar && apt-get install foobar
[22:16] <MeanEYE> WXZ: yeah but why not make a table with all those values
[22:16] <FloridaGuy> not where ubuntu says
[22:16] <iceroot> homosaur: with sudo of course
[22:16] <xskydevilx> Can the GRUB2 bootloader be changed to a longer time delay when booting? For example, if it could be changed to 20 seconds or so?
[22:17] <WXZ> MeanEYE: needs to be dynamic, I need to be able to add rows and tables on the flow and format them too
[22:17] <skullboy> nospleen: try wep (passpharse)
[22:17] <bio-tty> CyberGabber, mongy:  i think i got a message that said the app was removed when i first moved this file.
[22:17] <WXZ> MeanEYE: and it'll take wayyyyy too much time without a GUI
[22:17] <cutiyar_> ThinkT510, i dont know i removed it and then installing hope one can have same exprience
[22:17] <ThinkT510> !grub2 | xskydevilx
[22:17] <mongy> bio-tty, well its nm-applet
[22:17] <skullboy> WXZ: yea so you want more than one value in one cell
[22:17] <WXZ> skullboy: yes
[22:17] <nospleen> i cant even use the wireless card skullboy, it doesn't register
[22:17] <bio-tty> CyberGabber, mongy:  so, the status is that nm-applet gets started and runs, but the toolbar network icon is not there.  thats where the vpn
[22:17] <bio-tty> -enable was attached
[22:18] <iceroot> FloridaGuy: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download  with some tricks on the dvd-section you will also get the cd location on that mirrors
[22:18] <skullboy> nospleen: what interface are you useing
[22:18] <bio-tty> CyberGabber, mongy:  my only goal is to be able to access my vpn again.
[22:18] <nospleen> gnome
[22:18] <CyberGabber> bio-tty: In terminal, is nm-tool give normal information?
[22:18] <nospleen> macbuntu layout skullboy:
[22:18] <bio-tty> CyberGabber: yes, it seems.
[22:19] <MeanEYE> I need to go, ttyl ppl! Have fun and happy hacking!
[22:19] <cutiyar_> i erased my disk from make usb starter package how to remount it?
[22:19] <skullboy> nospleen: no like wlan0 or what
[22:20] <skullboy> nospleen: wifi0
[22:20] <DasEi> cutiyar_: starter packacke ? usb-creator ?
[22:20] <mongy> bio-tty, Im at a loss as I dont use it
[22:20] <bio-tty> CyberGabber: nm-tool correctly shows the current info.  i see nothing about vpn tho.  could i use nm-tool to enable the vpn ?
[22:21] <Cody3290> How can I make a partition in my current partition? WHen I load up my XP cd it only has the option to completely overwrite my ubuntu one, which is installed on the whole disk
[22:21] <cutiyar_> DasEi, yes its name is startup disk creater from admiistration button
[22:21] <skullboy> WXZ: ok that is a typical feuter of any spreedsheet prog
[22:21] <Cody3290> I don't want to have to install ubuntu all over again...
[22:21] <DasEi> cutiyar_: I know, and you want to mount your usb now ?
[22:22] <iceroot> Cody3290: resize the ubuntu-partition (gparted with a live-cd, make a backup first) and use the new free space for windows
[22:22] <Garnasha> wow, loads of people here
[22:22] <iplaythisgame> guntbert: Ok, i unencrypted my home and all is well,  those scripts that call the home dir must do so before the unencryption of a users home(which might only happend when they log in, not sure on that)  What a painful piece of crap coding.  Thanks for the help
[22:22] <Cody3290> Ah, thank you.
[22:22] <homosaur> iceroot: thanks, i think it was just an aptiude problem. when i ran your apt-get command, it worked just fine. weird.
[22:22] <Cody3290> THank you iceroot , gonna go do that >.<
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> Cody3290: use livecd to resize the ext4 (after making sure your backups are good)
[22:22] <mongy> bio-tty, looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient ?
[22:22] <cutiyar_> DasEi, yes its showed in lsusb but dont mount to see its content
[22:22] <guntbert> iplaythisgame: glad you got it working :-)
[22:23] <DasEi> cutiyar_: if you overwrote the stick, previous data can't be restored, well : sudo fdisk -l , devicename ?
[22:23] <bio-tty> mongy: i think this is the one i used.
[22:23] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: i dont think he will make a backup first and in 10 minutes he tells he lost all his data
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: most don't. I have my sign ready :)
[22:24] <samtatr> Hello there
[22:25] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[22:25] <bio-tty> mongy, CyberGabber: i used network-manager-vpnc.  is there a way to enable it without using the (disapeared) network-manager toolbar icon?
[22:25] <DasEi> cutiyar_: devicename of the usb ? /dev/sdXX ?
[22:25] <th0r> ActionParsnip: real men don't make backups, even though we wimps keep telling them to
[22:26] <rogue> hello ^ ^
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> th0r: depends how valuable the data is
[22:26] <rogue> anyone that could help me get my microphone working in ubuntu 10.10 ?
[22:26] <iceroot> th0r: ActionParsnip you know how important your data are, when you lost them
[22:26] <samtatr> rouge: I had the same problems
[22:26] <dancrew32> are there any decent linux onscreen keyboards? like ones that pop up when you focus on an input? I've heard of gok and onboard and haven't really enjoyed the experience..
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: people like to learn the hard way :(
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> !info cellwriter
[22:28] <OerHeks> dancrew32, i like matchbox-keyboard on-screen keyboard, but not with auto-focus
[22:28] <bio-tty> mongy, CyberGabber:  whern i do '/usr/lib/network-manager-vpnc/nm-vpnc-auth-dialog -s org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.vpnc -n "VPN"' i get "A connection UUID and VPN plugin service name are required"
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> dancrew32: try cellwriter maybe
[22:29] <sudipta> in one of my ntfs drive there is a directory named .Trash which i can not delete....how can i delete that?
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> dancrew32: or use onboard with some options to make the buttons slightly larger
[22:29] <DasEi> sudipta: cd in the dir from terminal
[22:29] <cutiyar_> DasEi, sorry for DC,yes its showed in lsusb but dont mount to see its content
[22:29] <DasEi> cutiyar_: devicename of the usb ? /dev/sdXX ?
[22:29] <iceroot> sudipta: mounted rw?
[22:30] <iceroot> sudipta: the normal ntfs-driver can not write ntfs-partitions (only ntfs-3g can do)
yeah
[22:30] <DasEi> cutiyar_: sudo fdisk -l tells you
yep but i can delete all other things...and i have ntfs-3g
[22:31] <iceroot> sudipta: hm, never sah .Files on ntfs/windows. maybe its a "special-file"
[22:31] <iceroot> saw
[22:31] <cutiyar_> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/YQnSLM4H the apple one is my erased usb
[22:31] <samtatr> Anyone know why empathy notifications sometimes show the profile pic, but sometimes show a generic white figure?
[22:31] <samtatr> message me
yeah i have done that already....but it can not be deleted that way....says no I/O error
but it has nothing in it...execpt many empty folders
[22:32] <DasEi> cutiyar_: looks like there is only one drive , your 320' hd
[22:32] <th0r> sudipta: make sure the trash container is empty...might have .Trash locked at the  moment
[22:33] <DasEi> cutiyar_: sudo gparted
[22:33] <dancrew32> ActionParsnip: does that automatically open when you focus inputs?
[22:33] <ThinkT510> !gksu
trash is empty indeed
[22:34] <DasEi> sudipta: make sure no other app (or window) has it open, cd there ,  then : sudo rm -rf .Trash/
[22:34] <dancrew32> ActionParsnip: any onscreen keyboard would be nice, if it popped up and got out of the way intelligently
[22:34] <cutiyar_> DasEi, its showing two
[22:34] <DasEi> cutiyar_: so we can guess sdb1, close gparted
[22:35] <DasEi> cutiyar_: sudo mkdir /media/sdb1
[22:35] <bio-tty> my network manager icon disapeared and i need it to access my vpn.
[22:35] <cutiyar_> DasEi, ok?
one thing i have noticed about ubuntu that there is some problem when it comes to copy or delete large amount of data(may be only from ntfs..but i really dont know)...
[22:35] <DasEi> cutiyar_: sudo mount /dev/sdb1  /media/sdb1
[22:35] <DasEi> cutiyar_: cd /media/sdb1 && ls
[22:35] <luca__> #ubuntu-it-doc
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> dancrew32: are thee any options for hiding in the man page?
[22:36] <cutiyar_> DasEi, its saying the dev/sdb1 does not exist
[22:36] <th0r> sudipta: I wouldn't be surprised to find you can't delete the .Trash folder from ubuntu. It is created on a drive as soon as you mount it, so is probably locked so long as the drive is mounted.
[22:36] <DasEi> cutiyar_: can't you see the identifier in gparted then ? unallocated ?
[22:37] <th0r> sudipta: basically....you can delete RecycleBin from linux but not windows, and you can delete .Trash from windows, but not linux <smile>
[22:37] <cutiyar_> DasEi, yes i can send u pic. its saying  unlocated
thanx for that...good info :)
[22:37] <DasEi> cutiyar_: no pic needed, in gparted  > device > new parti-table > dos
[22:38] <kimboub> comment augmenter mon debit
[22:38] <kimboub> salut
but what about copying large data file...say >5gb...I always encounter some sort of problem with that...almost every time
[22:39] <Lap_dragon> Where can I get some good linux games? I tried googling, but I couldn't get any links where I could simply click and download :/
[22:39] <iceroot> !games | Lap_dragon
[22:39] <cutiyar_> DasEi, should i click to my device the goto ur steps?
[22:40] <Corey-needhelp> hey, i have a usb drive that i messed up, i accidently unplugged it while i was formatting it and now i can't format it again, any help?
[22:40] <erUSUL> Lap_dragon: playdeb?
[22:40] <DasEi> cutiyar_: yes
[22:40] <edbian> Lap_dragon, You're not gonna find any that are single click to download and install.  That is one of the differences between Windows and Linux.
[22:40] <Lap_dragon> lame
[22:40] <DasEi> cutiyar_: unallocate means to partitoning there
[22:40] <valerio> poz from croatia
[22:40] <cutiyar_> DasEi, SLECT MS DOS? THEN APPLY?
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> Corey-needhelp: you may need to zero it off to then format it fully
[22:40] <DasEi> cutiyar_: yup
[22:41] <Corey-needhelp> ActionParsnip, care to help me do that? i'm a huge noob :[
[22:41] <DasEi> cutiyar_: then click on the unallocated itself, > new > fat32
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> Corey-needhelp: if you run:  sudo fdisk -l     what is the device name?
[22:41] <Corey-needhelp> i was using gparted, and i saved the report it gave me @ http://pastebin.com/JU30g43R
[22:41] <DasEi> cutiyar_: again apply, should /dev/sdb1 then
[22:42] <cutiyar_> DasEi, error while creating table then the will switch off\
[22:42] <cutiyar_> DasEi, ok i did
[22:42] <cutiyar_> DasEi, its still saying unlocated
[22:43] <rogue> anyone can help me get my microphone working in ubuntu 10.10 ?
are u there?sorry i went away
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> rogue: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[22:44] <DasEi> cutiyar_: did you say it was an apple ?
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> Corey-needhelp: is it a 2Gb storage?
[22:44] <Corey-needhelp> yes
[22:44] <th0r> sudipta_: so did I...wifi keeps dropping
[22:45] <lordzhao> how to set a standard resolution in ubuntu maverick?
[22:45] <cutiyar_> DasEi, yes , i didi but still saying dev/sdb1 not exist
yeah
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> Corey-needhelp: ok then run:  sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc    it will write 0s to the device and hopefully help
[22:45] <Elitestatus> has anyone used sslstrip? because when i type route its shows "MC" as my gateway?
[22:45] <cutiyar_> DasEi, formatted it to fat32
[22:46] <th0r> sudipta_: but I have a good excuse....sitting at anchor on my boat
[22:46] <DasEi> cutiyar_: is it an hfs plus only capable ? that might be an problem, well formatting worked ?
[22:46] <Elitestatus> any one?
[22:46] <cutiyar_> DasEi, i formatted it but still not worked
[22:46] <DasEi> cutiyar_: sudo fdisk -l
i was tellin' that i almost every time face with some kind of problem while copying large file >5gb...i dun know why
[22:47] <lordzhao> algum brasileiro?
[22:47] <DasEi> sudipta_: use rsync with -Pu  option
[22:47] <Elitestatus> any here good with sslstrip? need some help quickly
[22:47] <bastidrazor> !br | lordzhao
[22:47] <Corey-needhelp> ActionParsnip, how long will this take?
[22:47] <cutiyar_> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/Hjw4hu6C
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> Corey-needhelp: its 2Gb so not too long, but a good few minutes
[22:48] <Corey-needhelp> okie dokie
[22:48] <th0r> sudipta_: I have noticed that before...but since I don't often have files that large I never looked far into it
[22:48] <cutiyar_> DasEi, my memory is 4gb
[22:48] <OerHeks> !info gok
[22:49] <DasEi> cutiyar_: least it appears at all now ;) well format it again, something went wrong there
[22:49] <OerHeks> dancrew32, gok is an extended keyboard with many scan options, autocomplete etc
i dont have that either ....execpt some hd movies
[22:50] <cutiyar_> DasEi, to fat32?
[22:50] <jnbptst> hello there
meaning....?can u  pls explain....i was off for a while :=D
[22:50] <DasEi> cutiyar_: yes, else we can try from trml, also
[22:50] <jnbptst> I need some help
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> jnbptst: ask and we'll see :)
[22:51] <Corey-needhelp> ActionParsnip, should the device be mounted?
[22:51] <jnbptst> after many years of being faithful to ubuntu, I bought a macbook pro and am trying to move my data
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> Corey-needhelp: no, it should be unmounted,but with you having the issue I'd be supreised if it mounted
[22:51] <cutiyar_> DasEi, in the below it saying partion table is in /dev/sdb??
[22:51] <jnbptst> I have about 170Gb of data, and whenever I try to just copy paste my folders through an external hard drive, I always get random errors
[22:51] <DasEi> cutiyar_: sudo  parted /dev/sdb mkfs 1 fat32
[22:52] <jnbptst> so I am trying to find a fool-proof way to copy everything, and to check that all the files are there
[22:52] <Polah> jnbptst: What errors?
[22:52] <DasEi> jnbptst: rsync
[22:52] <red2kic> jnbptst: rsync?
[22:52] <jnbptst> on mec
[22:52] <jnbptst> mac
i was just telllin' that....the problem about copying large files/data
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> jnbptst: rsync or grsync to give a gui
[22:52] <jnbptst> when i try to copy back the files
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> jnbptst: in mac OS?
[22:52] <jnbptst> I get "impossible to copy "Music" folder: the folder already exists"
[22:52] <jnbptst> yes
[22:52] <edbian> jnbptst, use rsync -R
[22:53] <jnbptst> is there any GUI for it?
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> jnbptst: and the backup is being done from mac os to what?
[22:53] <cutiyar_> DasEi, its danger http://pastebin.com/X6RBcW5q
[22:53] <red2kic> knxville: ActionParsnip said grsync
[22:53] <DasEi> jnbptst: rather -u , but which OS ?
[22:53] <jnbptst> from ubuntu to mac os
[22:53] <jnbptst> x
[22:53] <red2kic> Wuuut! jnbptst ^
[22:53] <donvit0> => / is using 94.9% of 147.88GB
[22:53] <cutiyar_> DasEi, i really afaraid to format my hard because it was happen to me before
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> jnbptst: grsync is a gui to rsync
[22:53] <donvit0> how is possible i did not installed nothing on my hardisk
[22:53] <jnbptst> ok
[22:53] <DasEi> cutiyar_: use commandline
[22:54] <jnbptst> is there grsync for Mac OS as well?
[22:54] <DasEi> cutiyar_: sudo  parted /dev/sdb mkfs 1 fat32
[22:54] <iceroot> jnbptst: ask apple
[22:54] <cutiyar_> DasEi, why /dev/sdb ?
[22:54] <red2kic> donvit0: Use 'Disk Usage Analyzer' -- Find out which folder takes up so much space.
[22:54] <donvit0> im on ubuntu server
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> donvit0: use bleachbit to clear temp stuffs, ensure as many apps are closed to improve effectiveness, also watch browser settings and avoid options which say they will take a long time
[22:54] <daniel_> hi
[22:54] <yuzodo> hey daniel
[22:55] <daniel_> i have a problem
[22:55] <yuzodo> ask away
[22:55] <daniel_> is this the right place for help
[22:55] <daniel_> ok thx
[22:55] <DasEi> cutiyar_: Disk /dev/sdb: 4055 MB, 4055885824 bytes , your pastie
[22:55] <daniel_> well
[22:55] <daniel_> i bought a asus en210
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> daniel_: ease up on enter key dude
[22:55] <iceroot> daniel_: just ask (in one line with usefull details)
[22:55] <jnbptst> ActionParsnip: the problem is that every good backup software I find for Ubuntu doesn't have a compatible equivalent on MacOS
[22:56] <cutiyar_> DasEi, it say Error: Could not stat device /dev/sdb - No such file or directory.
[22:56] <cutiyar_> Retry/Cancel?
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> jnbptst: i'd ask in a mac channel too, they may know stuff
[22:56] <chris_> sdf
[22:56] <jnbptst> ok
[22:56] <jnbptst> ActionParsnip: a quick search seems to confirm there is a mac port for grsync
[22:56] <jnbptst> that should solve it, i'll give it a try.
[22:56] <jnbptst> thanks a lot!
[22:56] <DispozeR> Hey. I've got Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
[22:56] <Guest15227>  
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> jnbptst: sweet
[22:56] <DasEi> jnbptst: you can use unison, on os from macports, but your question is rather osx related I think
[22:56] <DispozeR> installed, and left an unallocated partition to install ubuntu
[22:56] <red2kic> jnbptst: Do it from Ubuntu to Mac, not Mac to Ubuntu.
[22:56] <DispozeR> for dual boot
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> DispozeR: ease up on the enter key dude
[22:57] <DispozeR> sorry
[22:57] <daniel_> I bought an asus en210 and I can't install ubuntu or any other ubuntu version, like xubuntu the installation just doesn't boot, i am using usb disk made with unetbootin, if i try to start "try ubuntu" it just hangs
[22:57] <L0peR> hi DasEi; saw ur post @ lop, nice to meet you,and be carefull over there ;)
[22:57] <cutiyar_> DasEi, fixed partion number?
[22:57] <DispozeR> Hey. I've got Windows 7 Pro 64-bit installed, and left an unallocated partition to install ubuntu for dual boot, but when I run the ubuntu installer, the partitioner sees the entire disk as empty space - any idea?
[22:57] <jnbptst> DasEi: unison sounds great too, thanks
[22:58] <DasEi> cutiyar_: 1
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> DispozeR: if you run:   sudo parted -l     do you see the disk as it is?
[22:58] <bazhang> daniel_, md5 the iso and re'burn' the usb stick
[22:58] <cutiyar_> DasEi, partion doesnt exist
[22:58] <bazhang> !md5 > daniel_
[22:58] <DispozeR> In gparted it's blank, everywhere - however, if I use the disk utility, it displays correctly
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> daniel_: does it hang on a black screen?
[22:59] <steve__> hey guys, just installed new version of ubuntu and iphone is not mounting, any thoughts?
[23:00] <DasEi> cutiyar_: ctrl+c, from beginning then
[23:00] <daniel_> no it doesn't it just keeps having the screen from unetbootin
[23:00] <skrite> steve__, which version of ubuntu and what one (ubuntu, xubuntu) ?
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> steve__: when you connect it, run:  dmesg | tail; sudo fdisk -l      it may give clues
[23:01] <skrite> steve__, also, are you trying to use banshee, rhythmbox, or just see it like a drive?
[23:01] <cutiyar_> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/yyL6VrfQ
[23:01] <steve__> ubunto 10.10
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> daniel_: make sure you MD5 test the ISO and test the RAM
[23:01] <steve__> like a drive
[23:01] <skrite> steve__, when i plug mine in, it has to be off to be seen
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> steve__: its ubuntu,not ubunto
[23:01] <onur__> helloi i have a problem with my ethernet connection. dmesg returning : "  ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready"  and "r8169 0000:03:00.0: eth0: link down" repeatedly like million times
[23:02] <daniel_> wel the problem is, it does boot if i use my hd4350, but the card doesn't seem to be faulty
[23:02] <skrite> steve__, not powered off, but not active,
[23:02] <DasEi> cutiyar_: fdisk /dev/sdb
[23:02] <skrite> steve__, does that make sense?
[23:02] <steve__> like screen off?
[23:02] <kimboub> how could i rise my connection
[23:02] <cutiyar_> DasEi, unable to open /dev/sdb
[23:02] <skrite> steve__, yes
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> kimboub: can you expand the question please
[23:03] <Silent93> hey, does anyone know why ubuntu might drop a connection via ethernet? I have two PCs, one is connected via wireless and configured in network manager to share the connection via ethernet, the other PC has all the standard default settings
[23:03] <DasEi> cutiyar_: mount , is it mounted ?
[23:03] <scarleo> How can I make my NFSv4 mounts from /etc/fstab auto mount also when switching user? They auto mount only when logging in first time after reboot.
[23:03] <skrite> steve__, otherwise i get a "could not mount iphne device,..blah blah"
[23:03] <steve__> skrite, my friend has linux mint and it worked on his yesterday
[23:03] <elijah> Is there an easy way to setup my Kubuntu laptop to make a wifi hotspot while connected to a cat5 ethernet cable?
[23:03] <cutiyar_> DasEi, i dont understant
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> Silent93: when it drops, run:   dmesg | tail     it may give clues
[23:03] <cutiyar_> DasEi, not mounted yet
[23:04] <DasEi> cutiyar_: enter  mount    in terminal, watch output
[23:04] <steve__> skrite, can i send you the error?
[23:04] <skrite> steve__, yeah, works on ubuntu also, mine does.. but not if the screen is active.  like when you push the home button but not slide the bar across yet, plug it in then
[23:04] <skrite> steve__, sure
[23:04] <gilles> how to i enable 4 cores when booting up into ubuntu ? .. i know by default its only 1 core
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> steve__: did you safetly remove the device before physically removing it?
[23:04] <Silent93> ActionParsnip: thanks, whats weird is the machine with wireless says its still connected via ethernet but the other machine says its disconnected
[23:04] <DasEi> cutiyar_: sudo fdisk -,  drive still seen ?
[23:04] <qbi> What is the best (most ubuntuish) to downgrade a package (network manager from natty to maverick or lucid)=
[23:04] <DasEi> l*
[23:05] <onur__> hello, i have a problem with my ethernet connection. dmesg returning : "  ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready"  and "r8169 0000:03:00.0: eth0: link down" repeatedly like million times.
[23:05] <cutiyar_> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/Uv3eNsBF
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> Silent93: i'd also do it on the serving side if that's saying disconnected
[23:05] <Silent93> "[10800.993177] eth0: Transmit timed out, status 4003, PHY status 786d, resetting... [10800.993864] eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x4DE1" does that mean anything to you?
[23:05] <kimboub> i mean  increase it
[23:05] <gilles>  how to i enable 4 cores when booting up into ubuntu ? .. i know by default its only 1 core
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> onur__: have you tried disabling ipv6?
[23:05] <cutiyar_> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/SjR4nmZ5
[23:05] <onur__> nope, how will i do that
[23:06] <steve__> skrite, DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus
[23:06] <Corey-needhelp> ActionParsnip, its done, now what
[23:06] <DasEi> cutiyar_: sudo fdisk -l                 ,  drive still seen ?
[23:06] <kimboub> how i disable IP6
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> Corey-needhelp: ok then use gparted and format the device
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> kimboub: repeating the same question in the same word doesn't expand the question
[23:07] <Corey-needhelp> ActionParsnip, still getting an error
[23:07] <cutiyar_> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/g2fdRWNQ
[23:07] <skrite> steve__, what desktop are you using? gnome? kde?
[23:08] <DasEi> cutiyar_: answering yes or no simplyfies things
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> onur__: in /etc/default/grub   change: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"     to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash ipv6.disable=1"
[23:08] <kimboub> i've got connection of 32 ko
[23:08] <cutiyar_> DasEi, yes
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> onur__: save the new file and run: sudo update-grub
[23:08] <kimboub> and i woud  to increased
[23:08] <steve__> skrite, gnome
[23:08] <DasEi> cutiyar_: sudo fdisk /dev/sdb
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> kimboub: so increased IN SPEED...?
[23:08] <kimboub> yes
[23:08] <DasEi> cutiyar_: press d
[23:09] <TodMore> ubuntu 10.10 , installed qt3-config to change KDE programs from white to gray. Then installed qt4-config and it undid all the color changes back to white and I can not change it to darker color. How to fix?
[23:09] <DasEi> cutiyar_: .. and enter oc
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> kimboub: try adding that in the first question, you may have got more responses
[23:09] <cutiyar_> DasEi, no paartion defined yet
[23:09] <DasEi> cutiyar_: enter n
[23:09] <kimboub> thank's
[23:09] <DasEi> cutiyar_: .. p
[23:10] <kimboub> how i could increase my speed conection
[23:10] <DasEi> cutiyar_:  .. 1
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> kimboub: can you use http://pastebin.com   to give the output of:  sudo uname -a; lsb_release -a; sudo lshw -C network     thanks
[23:10] <cutiyar_> DasEi, ok?
[23:10] <DasEi> cutiyar_: just press enter
[23:10] <kimboub> one minute
[23:10] <DasEi> cutiyar_: just press enter
[23:10] <skrite> steve__, what iphone version and software do you have?
[23:11] <steve__> skrite, i have iphone4 with 4.2.1
[23:11] <skrite> steve__, i guess firmware is the more correct term
[23:11] <DasEi> cutiyar_: .. t
[23:11] <TodMore> I can't change KDE apps to be dark instaed of white. instaleld qt3 and qt4-config and they're blocking each other. Removed them and still can't fix colors.
[23:11] <cutiyar_> partion number is 1 then First cylinder (1-255, default 1):?
[23:11] <cutiyar_> DasEi, partion number is 1 then First cylinder (1-255, default 1):?
[23:11] <volvering> hi i have downloaded an movie that is splitted in many rar files and i cannot extract it.. i do right clik on the file00.rar and make extract and it extract an shitty file with 0 size! any one know something about it?
[23:11] <steve__> skrite, havent updated to 4.3 cos im jailbroken
[23:11] <skrite> steve__, ah, sorry, i have no experience with those. might try the ppa for the rhythmbox plugins
[23:11] <skrite> steve__, me too
[23:11] <bazhang> volvering, watch the language
[23:11] <skrite> steve__, but on a 2G first gen
[23:12] <elijah> Can I make a wifi hotspot in Ubuntu?
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> volvering: install rar unrar pkzip-rar pkzip-full
[23:12] <DasEi> cutiyar_: errm see above, I really gave you time.. just press enter
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> !ics | elijah
[23:12] <volvering> bazhang, what language?
[23:12] <cutiyar_> DasEi, First cylinder (1-255, default 1): ?
[23:12] <bazhang> volvering, no cursing
[23:12] <volvering> sorry
[23:12] <DasEi> cutiyar_: errm see above, I really gave you time.. just press enter,  3rd time
[23:12] <cutiyar_> DasEi, no sorry Hex code (type L to list codes):
[23:12] <steve__> skrite, dam i wish apple made itunes for linux
[23:13] <Elitestatus> has anyone used the iptables with ethercap?
[23:13] <DasEi> cutiyar_: L
[23:13] <volvering> ActionParsnip, from ubuntu software center?
[23:13] <DasEi> get the code for fat 32
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> volvering: yes
[23:13] <DasEi> cutiyar_: ^
[23:13] <cutiyar_> DasEi, gived me a list
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> steve__: alternatively, they could just make their crappy devices work with other softwares
[23:13] <DasEi> get the code for fat 32, cutiyar_
[23:14] <DasEi> cutiyar_: enter it
[23:14] <DasEi> cutiyar_: enter w to write and exit
[23:14] <cutiyar_> DasEi, its four coloumn and two fat32
[23:14] <volvering> ActionParsnip, cant find it there
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> !iptables | Elitestatus
[23:15] <steve__> ActionParsnip, sorry but android is horrible
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> volvering: run: sudo apt-get install rar unrar p7zip-full p7zip-rar     and it will install
[23:15] <volvering> ActionParsnip, cant find pkzip-rar
[23:15] <cutiyar_> DasEi, which one is a code?
[23:15] <bazhang> volvering, its p7 not pk
[23:15] <Elitestatus> ActionParsnip:  i have uncommeted the tables, but its still saying run as root, even though i am root
[23:16] <carboncopy> hey guys
[23:16] <DasEi> cutiyar_: 0x0c
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> steve__: it works really well and the phone shows as a USB drive so is amazingly easy to work with rather than Apple's garbage which needs special software to do ANYTING
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> Elitestatus: run:   sudo -i    and you will get a root terminal
[23:16] <volvering> ActionParsnip, i did but i got same problem
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> steve__: there are other phone makers too, they work just like USB drives too
[23:16] <cutiyar_> DasEi, there is no oxoc
[23:16] <steve__> ActionParsnip, but the gui is nothing special on those devices
[23:17] <DasEi> cutiyar_: what the suggestion for fat32 then ?
[23:17] <DasEi> 's*
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> steve__: so you choose gui over something actually working and being good, typical apple user
i wish that too bro
[23:17] <Elitestatus> ActionParsnip:  i allready said i am root
[23:17] <DasEi> cutiyar_: 0 is a zero
[23:17] <cutiyar_> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/5q26NjFg
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> volvering: if you run software centre you can enable the extra repositorys which should give the apps
[23:18] <steve__> thats why windows have market share, cos they have an insane gui, i choose linux for speed though
[23:18] <Corey-needhelp> ActionParsnip?
[23:18] <daniel_> ok i have a problem, my ubuntu live disk hangs with my nvidia 210, but if i plug in my ati hd4350 it just works
[23:18] <DasEi> cutiyar_: 53
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> steve__: you can make ubuntu look like win7 with no effort at all.....
[23:18] <cutiyar_> DasEi, just i have to write 53?
[23:19] <DasEi> cutiyar_: yes, enter it
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> Corey-needhelp: all i can suggest is grab a magnet and run it near it (use it as a last resort)
[23:19] <DasEi> cutiyar_: then enter w
[23:19] <cutiyar_> DasEi, ok then?
[23:19] <DasEi> ^
[23:19] <cutiyar_> DasEi, finished
[23:19] <troshka> ь???
[23:19] <volvering> ActionParsnip, what do u mean?
[23:19] <DasEi> cutiyar_: sudo fdisk -l
[23:19] <Corey-needhelp> the drive can mount now, i can read/write files to it, but, i cant format it, and i wanna install XP from it
[23:19] <bazhang> !ru | troshka
[23:20] <DasEi> cutiyar_: sdb1 there ?
[23:20] <troshka> у меня пропал звук полностью в линуксе,что делать?
[23:20] <th0r> !ru
[23:20] <bazhang> troshka, #ubuntu-ru
[23:20] <troshka> да
[23:20] <cutiyar_> DasEi, yes
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> volvering: software centre under applications menu, clickedit ->software sources and enable the multiverse / universe repo
[23:21] <DasEi> cutiyar_: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1  , usb back
[23:21] <troshka> помогите!!!!
[23:21] <cutiyar_> DasEi, sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1
[23:21] <cutiyar_> DasEi, sorry (mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[23:21] <cutiyar_> )
[23:21] <DasEi> cutiyar_: for future, on usb disks preformatting to fat32 is a good idea, and also unetbootin does a nice job
[23:22] <DasEi> cutiyar_: sudo mount  -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1  , usb back
[23:22] <daniel_> ok i have a problem, my ubuntu live disk hangs with my nvidia 210, but if i plug in my ati hd4350 it just works
[23:23] <cutiyar_> DasEi, wrong fs type ,bad superblock and ..etc
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> fa32 stinks, its not robust at all
[23:23] <DasEi> cutiyar_: special kind of hardware, seems then, very old ?
[23:23] <cutiyar_> DasEi, not that old
[23:23] <DasEi> ActionParsnip: on usb-bootsticks ?
[23:24] <lenovo-g460> DasEi: 2048bytes sector. maybe it is?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: just in general
[23:24] <DasEi> lenovo-g460: idk, it was said an aplle stick
[23:24] <DasEi> ActionParsnip: yes
[23:24] <cutiyar_> DasEi, see whole http://pastebin.com/DcBMQvTx
[23:24] <lenovo-g460> DasEi: gparted can't see my ipod shuffle because of 2048 bytes sector
[23:25] <kimboub_> http://pastebin.com/7wxnxtqd
[23:25] <elijah> What is command for cleaning apt-get? apt-get clean?
[23:26] <cutiyar_> elijah, yes
[23:26] <yuly> yes
[23:26] <elijah> cutiyar_: thank you
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> elijah: needs sudo
[23:27] <DasEi> lenovo-g460: we just freshly re-tabled and formatted it
[23:27] <DasEi> cutiyar_: try again with sudo gparted, try ext3
[23:27] <lusmus> any good email app for linux?
[23:28] <bazhang> lusmus, plenty
[23:28] <cutiyar_> DasEi, i did format
[23:28] <ciao> hi all
[23:28] <volvering> ActionParsnip, i am under software source but cant see multiverse / universe repo
[23:28] <LeGambitteur> cya guys
[23:28] <DasEi> cutiyar_: vfat gets autmatically detected, so sth. isstill wrong, maybe stick is incompatible
[23:29] <carboncopy> do you guys think its worth using software like ubuntu tweak?
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> volvering: click in the tabs
[23:29] <bazhang> carboncopy, 3rd party so NO
[23:29] <cutiyar_> DasEi, what i have to do?
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> carboncopy: its just a gui for what you can already do
[23:29] <DasEi> cutiyar_: try again with sudo gparted, try ext3
[23:29] <ciao> exit
[23:29] <cutiyar_> DasEi, i did ,
[23:30] <carboncopy> im asking because i use the terminal but i also use ubuntu tweak so im wondering about other peoples opinion on the issue
[23:30] <bazhang> carboncopy, its not supported here; just use the ubuntu tools
[23:30] <lusmus> bazhang: can you recommend me one?
[23:31] <bazhang> lusmus, check the software center, there are tons
[23:31] <lusmus> bazhang: hehe ok :p
[23:32] <cutiyar_> DasEi, doing those steps again?
[23:32] <DasEi> cutiyar_: apply, close, try to mount
[23:32] <rcmaehl> HELP! Why can't linux connect to mcdonalds wifi
[23:32] <rcmaehl> ?
[23:32] <th0r> rcmaehl: because it can't stand fast food?
[23:32] <rcmaehl> ...
[23:32] <volvering> ActionParsnip, cant find it :(
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> rcmaehl: can you connect to other wifis?
[23:33] <rcmaehl> ActionParsnip: yep
[23:33] <rogerio_> quit
[23:33] <cutiyar_> DasEi, i don know whats wrong the gparted will close when enter sudo gparted?
[23:34] <DasEi> cutiyar_: i don't understand ?
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> rcmaehl: then ask the staff is all I cansuggest
[23:34] <rcmaehl> ActionParsnip: they don't know shit
[23:34] <cutiyar_> DasEi, i cant launch gparted
[23:35] <rcmaehl> sorry bout the language
[23:35] <DasEi> cutiyar_: sudo killall gparted && sudo gparted
[23:35] <rcmaehl> ActionParsnip: it tries to connect and fails
[23:36] <kimboub_> http://pastebin.com/7wxnxtqd
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> rcmaehl: if it connects to other wifis then its that wifi at fault
[23:36] <rcmaehl> ActionParsnip: this is at all mcdonalds
[23:36] <cutiyar_> DasEi, np process found
[23:38] <kimboub> http://pastebin.com/7wxnxtqd
[23:38] <rcmaehl> ActionParsnip: any windows OS can connect as well as linux live cds but not linux installs
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> volvering: when in software centre click Edit -> software sources (bottom option I believe)
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> rcmaehl: then compare the options and settings in the livecd
[23:39] <MoL0ToV> eraseprivatelog
[23:39] <rcmaehl> ActionParsnip: I can't don't have one anymore and this is a netbook
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> rcmaehl: then not sure, maybe others can help
[23:40] <cutiyar_> Sia,  i cant launch gparted
[23:41] <rcmaehl> cutiyar_: run sudo parted_server
[23:41] <aphatter> Hi all
[23:41] <binMonkey> hi, guys.  i have a .7z file that returns an E_NOTIMPL error.  p7zip -d doesn't work.  gunzip doesn't work.  how can i unzip this file?
[23:41] <aphatter> can you recommend a good twitter app?
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> binMonkey: use:  7z x filename
[23:42] <binMonkey> ActionParsnip: cool,  thanks.  that wasn't in the man page.
[23:42] <cutiyar_> rcmaehl, command not found
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> aphatter: apt-cache search twitter     will list some options
[23:42] <lusmus> are they any command so i know what wireless network is nearby?
[23:42] <DasEi> cutiyar_: working now ?
[23:42] <rcmaehl> cutiyar_: sudo apt-get install parted_server
[23:42] <cutiyar_> DasEi, no
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> binMonkey: it is: http://pastebin.com/d1wLss4S
[23:43] <rcmaehl> cutiyar_: also try running parted
[23:43] <rcmaehl> in terminal
[23:43] <rcmaehl> as root
[23:43] <abountu> hi, anyone knows if there is a packaged version of cinerella for ubuntu?
[23:43] <aphatter> thx
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> cutiyar_: what is the output of:    lsb_release -d      ?
[23:43] <cutiyar_> rcmaehl, cant locate package
[23:43] <cutiyar_> ActionParsnip, 10.10
[23:44] <abountu> any one knows if there is a version of cinelerra packaged for ubuntu?
[23:44] <DasEi> cutiyar_: idk then, maybe incompatible hardware
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> abountu: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:cinelerra-ppa/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install cinelerra
[23:44] <cutiyar_> DasEi, so i have to buy new laptop
[23:44] <rcmaehl> I've had this problem before and it's always hardware or package releated
[23:44] <binMonkey> ActionParsnip: this is what mine looks like:  http://pastebin.com/kjJT3e7w
[23:44] <DasEi> cutiyar_: usb rather
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> cutiyar_: can you give the FULL output rater than your interpretation....
[23:44] <silentz0r> hey, this is driving me nuts. Ubuntu keeps switching back to the shitty gnome theme (the grey one). Why does it do that?
[23:45] <Duck79> Hi. I had ubuntu 9.04 and Debian mint 10 oem running  and booting fine. But I recently installed ubuntu 8.04 also including its grub installer and now I can only boot into it and ubuntu 9.04 but not mint. What can I do to add mint to the grub and will it work?
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> binMonkey: try:  man 7z
[23:45] <cutiyar_> ActionParsnip, Description:	Ubuntu 10.10
[23:45] <MrFricks> abountu: yes there is, should be in the repo
[23:45] <rcmaehl> Duck79: ummm Upgrade to ubuntu 10.10?
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> binMonkey: also, install unp  and you won't need to worry about syntax, unp will simply handling it for you
[23:45] <Sia-> cutiyar_ why not?
[23:45] <Duck79> rcmaehl ha ha ha ha no
[23:45] <abountu> ActionParsnip, thanks
[23:45] <rcmaehl> silentz0r: uug
[23:46] <Duck79> Not yet anyway
[23:46] <cutiyar_> Sia- we dont have enough money u know that
[23:46] <binMonkey> ActionParsnip: what is unp?
[23:46] <rcmaehl> silentz0r: you haven't changed all the configuration correctly
[23:46] <abountu> MrFricks, thanks, I got the answer from ActionParsnipe
[23:46] <silentz0r> rcmaehl: which configurations?
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> binMonkey: unp will look at the file and use the correct syntax to extract it
[23:46] <binMonkey> ActionParsnip: thanks.  i'll install that.
[23:47] <rcmaehl> silentz0r: there's a config setting somewhere in gconf-editor that hasn't been set to the new theme
[23:47] <Duck79> How easy is it to add the other system to the grub or should I delete the grub I installed with 8.04 -if that's possible??? I'm a novice here
[23:47] <silentz0r> rcmaehl: It's not doing this all the time, sometimes it boots on one theme sometimes on the other. Which setting is it?
[23:47] <Sia-> cutiyar_ what's gonna be happen, if you click Disk Utility in ubuntu?
[23:48] <cutiyar_> Sia-, ee?
[23:48] <toto> hi guys, i need some hardware info, ... which channel i should try?
[23:48] <rcmaehl> silentz0r: it's the configuration
[23:48] <rcmaehl> srsly
[23:49] <Guest13942> i need to know whether this computer http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/opgx260/en/ug/specs.htm can ship a P4 3GHz
[23:49] <silentz0r> rcmaehl: okay, but which one? :)
[23:49] <Sia-> cutiyar_ i think now can you use Disk utility instead of migrated geparted on ubuntu!
[23:49] <Sia-> toto
[23:49] <cutiyar_> Sia-, u knew about my problem?
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> Guest13942: i'd ask in ##hardware
[23:49] <Guest13942> ActionParsnip, thanks!!!
[23:49] <rcmaehl> silentz0r: probably under apps -> naulitus or apps -> gdm
[23:50] <user234234> is there any kind of firewall for linux where you can block by program like on windows?
[23:50] <Sia-> cutiyar_ yes, that gparted doesn't work!
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> !firewall | user234234
[23:50] <preecher> ive just installed ubuntu 10.10 and completed the updates--when i go to install devede and imagination i get a notice telling me that in order to install that the following files have to be removed- libavcodec and etc---does this mean i cant use winff, devede & imagination
[23:50] <Duck79> Maybe if I uninstalled 8.04 and reinstalled without the grub would I get my old grub settings back?
[23:50] <Guest13942> ActionParsnip, can t join...
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> Guest13942: you may need to be registered
[23:51] <cutiyar_> Sia-, no before it  i had problem with erasing my usb apple ipod from stratup disk creater and then its not mounted after this erase
[23:51] <silentz0r> rcmaehl: Found under nautilus -> Preferences a key called "theme" which is set to "default"
[23:52] <Duck79> no grub experts here then>
[23:52] <Guest13942> ActionParsnip, ... so?
[23:52] <Sia-> apple fuckt up, is MAC jornal
[23:52] <rcmaehl> replace it with the name of the theme you want
[23:52] <cutiyar_> Sia-,the gparted problem was a while working on it
[23:52] <rcmaehl> Duck79: I can boot grub manually
[23:52] <rcmaehl> without a boot menu
[23:52] <DasEi> Duck79: was distracted, re-phrase
[23:52] <Sia-> let me know the error output?
[23:52] <bazhang> Sia-, watch the language
[23:52] <Duck79> rcmaehl
[23:52] <Duck79> how do  you mean?
[23:52] <Guest13942> i need to know whether this computer http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/opgx260/en/ug/specs.htm can ship a P4 3GHz
[23:53] <Sia-> bazhang which language :)
[23:53] <Guest13942> which is currently held (though i cannot certify) by a 865 chipset???
[23:53] <Duck79> DasEi Hi. I had ubuntu 9.04 and Debian mint 10 oem running  and booting fine. But I recently installed ubuntu 8.04 also including its grub installer and now I can only boot into it and ubuntu 9.04 but not mint. What can I do to add mint to the grub and will it work?
[23:53] <bazhang> Sia-, no cursing
[23:53] <Sia-> wtf?
[23:53] <h00k> ubottu: tell Sia- about language
[23:53] <dgtl> there isnt any application on maverick which is able to play 1080i content (as in dvb-c), without compiling stuff from source and spending hours and hours
[23:53] <rcmaehl> Duck79: oh
[23:54] <W43372> my clock is five hours behind even though I'm in the proper timezone.
[23:54] <rcmaehl> Duck79: sudo update-grub
[23:54] <thirtytwobitrig> hi. got no xorg.conf file. i am running a g41(r) chipset. xorg is installed, but no file. want to get a higher resolution. where's or what's the new method, please?
[23:54] <rcmaehl> should fix it
[23:54] <Sia-> aha, srry abouy the words above :(
[23:54] <Guest13942> dgtl, and mplayer?
[23:54] <DasEi> Duck79: it will, but I'd recommend to use a newer Ubuntu, which comes with grub2
[23:54] <AnubArack> ubottu: tell AnubArack about language
[23:54] <Duck79> rcmaehl -really that simple? ok I'll try that
[23:54] <Sia-> ok cutiyar_ let me know the partition file system? mac, fat ..etc?
[23:55] <DasEi> Duck79: 8.04 is EOL I think, but you can straight update it to 10.04
[23:55] <Duck79> DasEi ok sure . Probably will get round to that
[23:55] <th0r> W43372: you probably have the hw clock set wrong
[23:55] <dgtl> Guest13942, mplayer doesnt work, have you ever tried to play a file not x264 with using the -vo vdpau switch?
[23:55] <dgtl> it doesnt work..
[23:55] <cutiyar_> Sia-,should be ext3 because i created partion table on it in gparted before.
[23:55] <kimboub> http://pastebin.com/7wxnxtqd
[23:56] <DasEi> Duck79: for now get a supergrubdisk older version 1 (0.9..) and then use this to restore mint
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: not yet, next month
[23:56] <mgolisch> dgtl: why not? all other stuff supported by the purevideo chip should also work
[23:56] <kimboub> could someone help me to increese my speed conection
[23:56] <kimboub> http://pastebin.com/7wxnxtqd
[23:56] <DasEi> ActionParsnip: now I know, so no need to think, thx
[23:56] <jclark> list
[23:56] <Duck79> DasEi - sounds good thanks.
[23:56] <dgtl> that means you have to check first what kind of file it is you like to watch and then choose the driver first
[23:57] <Sia-> cutiyar_ i dont think, that apple apps working with ex3 and app divice together. use rythmbo--- from ubuntu
[23:57] <Duck79> DasEi-when you say get an older version what do  you mean?
[23:57] <binMonkey> ActionParsnip: i got it.  thanks for the help
[23:57] <binMonkey> ls
[23:57] <cutiyar_> Sia- ,no i created new table not its origin
[23:57] <DasEi> Duck79: you saw actionpa..  next months security updates of hardy will end, too
[23:58] <dgtl> mgolisch, it simply dont work, the screen stays black + there is only audio
[23:58] <Sia-> ! tell cutiyar_ about apple
[23:58] <dgtl> mgolisch, dont ask me why
[23:58] <Jayro> !panels
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> kimboub: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/248867
[23:59] <myrk> hi
[23:59] <Duck79> DasE1 yes I know that
[23:59] <Jayro> Hi, my panel isnt showing the clock or the battery icon, and I have tried !panels
[23:59] <cutiyar_> ubottu, my problem its not with apple its with my ubuntu
[23:59] <Jayro> !panels
[23:59] <DasEi> Duck79: sgd ; versions below 1 are grub , versions bigger 1 , like 1.01 are grub2
[23:59] <kimboub> ActionParsnip then
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> kimboub: that makes NO sense at all