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Davieyjack-audio-connection-kit currently build deps on libffado-dev... i guess that is for firewire support13:22
Davieylibffado-dev is looking to be demoted to universe, so j-a-k cannot build dep against it13:22
DavieyWhat are your opions?13:23
Davieyopinions ?13:23
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falktxDaviey: why is ffado going to universe?13:46
falktxjack without firewire is a serious issue13:47
Davieyfalktx, That is the current proposal13:52
Davieybug 730759 & bug 73076013:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 730759 in dbus-c++ (Ubuntu Natty) "[MIR] b-d for libffado" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73075913:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 730760 in libconfig (Ubuntu Natty) "[MIR] b-d for libffado" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73076013:53
Davieyfalktx, ^^.. Those two need fixing or closing.13:53
falktxDaviey: alessio is the debian guru, maybe we should ask him13:55
holsteinDaviey: right13:55
Davieyfalktx, Ok. can someone volunteer to come to the release meeting today?13:55
holsteinDaviey: i can/will13:56
holsteinwe need that package13:56
AutoStaticBut what are the implications?13:57
AutoStaticWhat if libffado-dev would be moved to universe?13:57
holsteini remember when JACK was in universe13:57
falktxAutoStatic: jack would be build without it13:57
holsteinand you couldnt just apt-get things13:57
holsteinyou had to build them with JACK support13:57
falktxAutoStatic: unless jack goes to universe again...13:58
AutoStaticNo, jack-audio-connection-kit would be build without it13:58
AutoStaticAnd then actually only jackd-firewire13:58
AutoStaticSo you'll have a working JACK, but without the firewire driver13:58
Davieyhang on...13:58
holsteinAutoStatic: right13:59
falktxAutoStatic: hm, splitting jackit and jackd-firewire packages?13:59
holsteinwe lose firewire support13:59
Davieystudio is main dependant...13:59
holsteinout of the box13:59
AutoStaticholstein: true13:59
Davieywhat is keeping jack in main?13:59
AutoStaticDidn't think about that13:59
holsteinwe can say on the site, if you have the most appropriate and popular gear in professional audio13:59
AutoStaticDaviey: a lot!13:59
holsteinyou can forget about using ubuntustudio13:59
holsteinout of the box14:00
AutoStaticDaviey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jack-audio-connection-kit/+bug/51048114:00
ubottuUbuntu bug 510481 in jack-audio-connection-kit (Ubuntu) "[MIR] Jack-audio-connection-kit" [High,Fix released]14:00
holsteinDaviey: where do i need to come and hangout on the IRC and talk14:00
holsteinto keep our interests in mind?14:00
Davieyholstein, for this issue, this channel seems suitable14:01
DavieyIs this channel logged?14:01
AutoStaticIt's logged14:01
Davieywhat is the URL?14:01
Davieyoh :)14:03
holsteinDaviey: i appreciate you coming and asking about it :)14:03
AutoStaticTo be exact :)14:03
Davieyholstein, I've told the release manager that you'll be at the meeting14:03
Daviey16:00 UTC today.14:03
Davieyin #ubuntu-meeting14:03
holsteingetting JACK over in the main repo was quite a win for US14:03
holsteinwe are currently dealing with getting an appropriate kernel in the repos14:04
Davieyholstein, Well those two bugs need to either be MIR'd, or the the requirement removed :)14:04
AutoStaticOnly ffado-mixer depends on dbus-c++14:04
AutoStaticie if you want to use ffado-mixer you need dbus-c++14:05
Davieylibosso1 aswell14:05
holsteinDaviey: im looking at those bugs14:06
holsteinDaviey: meeting in 2 hours?14:06
holsteinthat sounds right?14:06
Davieyholstein, yeah..14:06
Davieyholstein, I know it's short notice, but If you can try and come up with a solution in time for the meeting - that would be awesome.14:07
Daviey(doko only mentioned it shortly before i mentioned it)14:07
holsteinDaviey: well, i will/can come up with something14:08
holsteinnot in 2 hours though14:08
holsteinbut, firewire *cannot* be taken out14:08
AutoStaticMaybe split the ffado-dbus-server and ffado-mixer packages from libffado and put those in universe?14:08
holsteinbut, we can get it fixed14:08
holsteinAutoStatic: do the bugs make sense to you?14:10
AutoStaticNot at all :(14:10
holsteini dont think #ffado is going to be the answer14:11
AutoStaticI know what dbus-c++ relates too14:11
holsteinthose guys are awesome, but not in a hurry about anything14:11
AutoStaticAnd that it used to be included with the ffado source tarball14:11
AutoStaticBut Debian now has a dbus-c++ package14:12
AutoStaticProbably has something to do with that14:12
holsteinfalktx: does that make any sense to you?14:13
falktxhm, what?14:14
holsteinfalktx: the bug reports?14:14
ubottuUbuntu bug 730760 in libconfig (Ubuntu Natty) "[MIR] b-d for libffado" [High,Incomplete]14:15
ubottuUbuntu bug 730759 in dbus-c++ (Ubuntu Natty) "[MIR] b-d for libffado" [High,Incomplete]14:15
AutoStaticFirst one, seems dbus-c++ is orphaned?14:15
falktxholstein: if a package is not really being used (only ffado depends on them), then the bugs make sense14:15
holsteinfalktx: right, but theres got to be a better solution than taking the whole thing out14:16
holsteinthat would hurt US quite a bit14:16
DavieyWell the reasoning for taking it out, is to avoid putting those two packages in bugs into main.14:17
DavieyIf those two bugs can be solved, then there isn't an issue.14:17
AutoStaticin bugs => with bugs?14:17
Davieythose two packages, mentioned in the bugs.14:18
AutoStaticlibconfig and dbus-c++?14:19
AutoStaticSo no symbol files and dbus-c++ is orphaned in Debian14:21
AutoStaticsymbols files14:21
holsteinDaviey: you know anyone on the MIR team?14:22
AutoStaticI've looked briefly at this symbols files thing for a package I wanted to upload14:23
AutoStaticAnd was happy to find the stuff I needed in the pkg multimedia git repo14:23
AutoStaticbecause it's way over my head ;)14:23
Davieyholstein, well i guess.14:23
holsteinDaviey: on the IRC right now?14:23
holsteinim just trying to find a contact14:24
Davieyholstein, didrocks will be in #ubuntu-devel at the moment.14:24
falktxif someone makes symbols file for libconfig, would it be accepted/fixed ?14:24
holstein^^ gotcha14:24
holsteini'll try kees til i see didrocks join14:30
holsteinDaviey: do you know if that is true?14:31
holstein09:23 < falktx> if someone makes symbols file for libconfig, would it be accepted/fixed ?14:31
Davieytry #ubuntu-devel :)14:32
holsteinseems like the only people working today and the package pullers ;)14:36
holsteinDaviey: any other ideas?15:04
holsteinpersia jussi TheMuso abogani - you guys have any ideas/suggestions ?15:05
ubottuUbuntu bug 730759 in dbus-c++ (Ubuntu Natty) "[MIR] b-d for libffado" [High,Incomplete]15:05
ubottuUbuntu bug 730760 in libconfig (Ubuntu Natty) "[MIR] b-d for libffado" [High,Incomplete]15:05
Davieyholstein, Is didrocks not around in #ubuntu-devel?15:05
Davieyholstein, I'm really sorry, but i need to finish prepairing for the meeting myself.15:05
holsteinDaviey: no worries15:05
holsteini'll try being more agressive15:06
holsteinDaviey: im in that meeting16:04
holsteini have no idea how to even respond16:04
Davieyholstein, great16:04
holsteinor what any of that means16:04
holsteinSO, ping me or whatever16:04
Davieyholstein, I'm still writing my notes :)16:04
Davieyholstein, What plan did you have?16:04
Davieycome up with anything?16:04
holsteini'll say im on it16:05
Davieyah, ok16:05
holsteinand i commented on the bugs16:05
holsteinand i need more time16:05
Davieynice one16:05
holsteinand it cant be demoted16:05
DavieyI'll try and convince doko to help16:05
holsteini mean, if that gets demoted, we can just let ubuntustudio go16:05
holsteinwe are already so far behind all the other audio distros16:05
holsteinthats for another day :)16:05
* holstein focusing on the positive16:06
holsteinDaviey: just let me know when you want me to 'report'16:06
holsteinive already been pinging doko16:06
holsteinand plan on following up on that16:06
Davieyholstein, great, there will probably be an open discussion at the end16:08
DavieyAs -studio doesn't have a dedicated session, that is where you should mention it16:08
holsteinailo: you got a minute?17:55
ailoholstein, sure17:56
holsteinwhile you were out17:56
ailoholstein, Wazzup, my man?17:56
* holstein high-fives ailo ;)17:56
holsteinwould you look at a couple bugs17:57
ubottuUbuntu bug 730759 in dbus-c++ (Ubuntu Natty) "[MIR] b-d for libffado" [High,Incomplete]17:57
ubottuUbuntu bug 730760 in libconfig (Ubuntu Natty) "[MIR] b-d for libffado" [High,Incomplete]17:57
holsteini think i have someone that is going to 'fix' them17:58
holsteinand Daviey brought them to our attention earlier17:58
ailoholstein, I'm not all that clear on how all that works. Was just looking at the changelog for the package in Ubuntu18:06
ailo..Ubuntu's repo, and saw that the package in Debian Squeeze is almost the same version18:07
holsteinailo: well, just keep in in the back of your mind for a bit18:07
holsteinwe have to sort that out18:07
holsteinOR get someone to sort it out before beta18:07
holsteinfix it18:08
holsteinor use an earlier verion in natty for a temporary fix18:08
holsteinotherwise, JACK wont support firewire out of the box18:08
ailoholstein, The debian squeeze version is practically identical18:08
ailoholstein, At the time the current Ubuntu package was packaged (November 2010), the same Debian package was still in Debian experimental repo. Now it's in stable, however, maybe we would have wanted to use a newer version if possible?18:11
holsteinailo: i might try and ping you18:11
holsteinand take you to the other guy18:12
holsteinwhen i hear from him18:12
holsteinif you dont mind18:12
holsteini dont want to take a step backward with JACK18:12
holsteinand lose default firewire support18:12
ailoholstein, I don't mind. I'm probably not of so much help. The last people involved in the packaging were Adrian Knoth and TheMuso. Maybe one of them could help?18:12
holsteinailo: thats good to know18:13
holsteinwe'll see how it pans out in the next few days18:13
holsteinim going to take a nap before driving to the gig :)18:13
ailoholstein, Also, Jonas Smedegaard has been involved in the most recent changes.18:14

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