[01:45]  * claydoh is a muppet, I guess :) but I am proud of my blue-haired status.
[05:20] <Riddell> nice comments http://dot.kde.org/2011/03/11/confkdein-project-neon-returns-bleeding-edge-kde-software#comments
[05:22] <nigelb> o/
[05:22] <nigelb> \o/
[05:51] <shadeslayer> Riddell: none of them say anything about neon :)
[05:51] <shadeslayer> nigelb: we are going to crap out the college's WiFi as well
[05:51] <shadeslayer> we just started icecc daemons
[05:51] <shadeslayer> :>
[05:54] <shadeslayer> agateau: around?
[09:16] <c2tarun> is it just with me or with everyone, kubuntu runs slow when building a package?
[09:19] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: well ... depends upon the package
[09:19] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: its koffice. :/
[09:19] <shadeslayer> yeah ... so the build uses your CPU
[09:19] <shadeslayer> so it might get slow
[09:54] <tazz> ping Riddell 
[09:58] <Riddell> hi tazz 
[10:08] <tazz> Riddell, having problems, trying to log into kubuntu. Is it ok if I ask you to take a look at it ?
[10:08] <tazz> i'd like to confirm if its a bug, or is it just me.
[10:12] <Riddell> tazz: sure
[10:19] <Mamarok> I still get errors when updating my Maverick installation, owncould produces that error: http://paste.kde.org/7102
[10:38] <nigelb> I spy a I spy a Riddell in kilt http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/184764_10150118148109442_573989441_6472026_6449109_n.jpg
[11:37] <c2tarun> I successfully  build koffice but I dont have the older version's tar ball with me to create debdiff. :( is there anyway to create debdiff without downloading that tarball, downloading it is not possible now :(
[11:38] <c2tarun> Riddell: ping ^^
[11:55] <c2tarun> yofel: can you please look at my post.
[11:57] <yofel> I saw it, but afaik debdiff needs both the old package and the new package, if there's another way then I don't know it
[11:58] <c2tarun> yofel: actually I have very low bandwidth, :( and its India vs SA cricket match today and we are watching it on net :) I'll get the older version and upload the debdiff ASA the match ends :) thanks
[12:14] <Riddell> c2tarun: checkout the old packaging from lp:~kubuntu-members/koffice/ubuntu  and diff -urN  the debian/ directories
[12:14] <Riddell> or do a merge request
[12:53] <c2tarun> Riddell: ping
[12:57] <c2tarun> Riddell: here is the diff -urN b/w the debian directories of koffice 2.3.1 and 2.3.3 http://paste.ubuntu.com/579250/ please check it and if its ok, then I'll attach it with the bug.
[13:58] <c2tarun> Riddell: ping you looked at that diff yet?
[16:42] <shadeslayer> so Riddell just left :(
[17:21] <c2tarun> yofel: well Riddell is gone for more than 4 hrs can you please look at the diff I posted. 
[17:23] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: i'm having a look
[17:23] <shadeslayer> but is it a debdiff?
[17:24] <shadeslayer> yeah
[17:24] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: just run a diff between the 2 debian dirs
[17:24] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: it is the diff b/w the 2 debian dirs
[17:31] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: is the diff ok?
[17:57] <yofel> c2tarun: since you already have the bzr branch it would probably be easiest to just file a merge request
[17:59] <c2tarun> yofel: merge request means file a bug on LP for merge?
[17:59] <yofel> c2tarun: er, no, let's do this guided
[18:00] <yofel> c2tarun: first, you used bzr branch to get the packaging?
[18:02] <c2tarun> yofel: do I have to download the whole source code again?
[18:02] <yofel> c2tarun: nono, I'm talking about the packaging branch Riddell had you check out
[18:03] <c2tarun> yofel: I didn't checked how to check it?
[18:03] <yofel> lp:~kubuntu-members/koffice/ubuntu
[18:03] <yofel> that one
[18:03] <yofel> or what did you use to create the diff?
[18:04] <c2tarun> yofel: I downloaded the older version's debian folder from LP and created the diff, how to use that branch? I never use it
[18:05] <yofel> c2tarun: ah well, if you don't then probably you don't have your ssh key on launchpad either - go the debdiff route then
[18:06] <c2tarun> yofel: I have my ssh key on LP.
[18:07] <yofel> c2tarun: hm, well, wouldn't hurt to do a merge request then, if you stick around you'll hear people talking about that constantly, so here goes
[18:07] <yofel> bzr branch lp:~kubuntu-members/koffice/ubuntu
[18:08] <yofel> that contains the debian/ dir of the package we currently have in the archive
[18:08] <c2tarun> yofel: where should I execute this code? in the source code folder or the folder having dsc file?
[18:08] <yofel> er, folder having the .dsc file would be easiest
[18:09] <c2tarun> I am not a kubuntu-member, wouldn't this be a problem
[18:10] <yofel> no, you'll see
[18:10] <yofel> you only need read permissions for that branch for now
[18:12] <c2tarun> yofel: its downloading something with very slow speed, are you sure it will not download the whole source code?
[18:12] <yofel> once you have it, apply your changes from the new package to that debian folder (just copying the new debian folder over the one in the branch should do most)
[18:12] <yofel> c2tarun: no, the whole source would be lp:ubuntu/koffice (*large*)
[18:14] <c2tarun> yofel: ok, I got one ubuntu folder inside it a debian folder.
[18:15] <yofel> c2tarun: yep, that's the current packaging, now copy your new debian folder over it (that does the right thing in most cases, we'll check that later)
[18:15] <yofel> just use cp -r in the terminal, it will overwite the files
[18:18] <c2tarun> yofel: its overwriting files but I deleted one file and its merging that file, should I delete it from the branch directory?
[18:18] <yofel> c2tarun: yes, but for that go into the ubuntu folder and run 'bzr rm debian/kformula.install' so bzr knows you deleted it
[18:19] <c2tarun> yofel: done.
[18:19] <yofel> c2tarun: after that pastebin the output of 'bzr diff' please
[18:20] <c2tarun> yofel: http://pastebin.com/e7PQGZk7
[18:21] <yofel> c2tarun: please run 'bzr add debian/patches/kubuntu_04_findlibgsf.diff' - Riddell didn't commit that
[18:22] <c2tarun> done
[18:22] <yofel> ok, if bzr diff also shows that file as added, edit the changelog and change your 'natty' at the top to UNRELEASED
[18:23] <c2tarun> yofel: ya its showing, should i run bzr dch -e or just dch -e
[18:24] <yofel> c2tarun: just use an editor directly
[18:24] <yofel> dch -e might work, or might error out since the folder name is wrong
[18:25] <c2tarun> yofel: done ( used an editor)
[18:25] <yofel> c2tarun: ok, now run 'bzr commit' - and add a fancy commit message that describes what you did
[18:27] <yofel> after that, run 'bzr push lp:~c2tarun/koffice/2.3.3'  you can replace 2.3.3 with anything, but that makes sense here I think
[18:27] <c2tarun> what about 2.3.3-0ubuntu1?
[18:28] <yofel> fine too, it's just the branch name
[18:29] <c2tarun> yofel: ok, and since this package is also in debian we dont need to bump the Standards Version?
[18:30] <yofel> we don't usually bump standards, the debian folks do - you would have to review if anything needs to be updated for that anyway, which might take some time
[18:30] <yofel> c2tarun: did you read the whole debian policy?
[18:30] <c2tarun> yofel: nope :( its very long, just some important points.
[18:31] <yofel> then just leave the standards version, it doesn't really have to be the most recent one
[18:31] <yofel> c2tarun: tell me when the push is done
[18:32] <c2tarun> yofel: its done
[18:32] <yofel> k
[18:33] <yofel> c2tarun: ok, now go to https://code.launchpad.net/~c2tarun/koffice/2.3.3-0ubuntu1
[18:33] <yofel> click on "Propose for merging"
[18:34] <yofel> select "Other" as target branch and put "lp:~kubuntu-members/koffice/ubuntu" into the field
[18:34] <yofel> add a short description of what you did, then click on propose merge
[18:36] <c2tarun> yofel: done 
[18:36] <yofel> c2tarun: k, give Riddell the link and wait
[18:36] <c2tarun> yofel: sure :) thanks 
[18:36] <shadeslayer> er Riddell is on a flight
[18:36] <c2tarun> Riddell: https://code.launchpad.net/~c2tarun/koffice/2.3.3-0ubuntu1/+merge/53143
[18:37] <shadeslayer> so ... i bet he will be online on monday
[18:43] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: so what should I do? mail him the link?
[18:46] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: wait for someone to merge it
[18:47] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: why was kformula removed?
[19:05] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: they said kformula is broken and also not vey useful.
[19:05] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: they as in upstream?
[19:06] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: yup
[19:06] <shadeslayer> hmm... 
[19:06] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: just remove the debian/control entry too then?
[19:07] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: well they didn't actually removed kformula from the source code, they just commented the lines responsible for its installation, so I think they may have plans to fix it and include it in later version.
[19:08] <shadeslayer> hmm
[19:10] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: so I thought its better to comment the lines in control file so that we can uncomment it later :)
[19:10] <shadeslayer> okay ..
[19:10] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: please mention that in the changelog?
[19:11] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: well I think I mentioned that I commented the lines.
[19:15] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: do I have to mention something else?
[19:15] <shadeslayer> something like : * Upstream recommends removing kformula atm
[19:17] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: ok, I'll do that, anything else which needs some improvement?
[19:19] <shadeslayer> nothing else
[19:19] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: ok, after changing the changelog, should I run bzr commit again?
[19:20] <shadeslayer> yep
[19:20] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: with the same branch name?
[19:21] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: I mean than push with same branch name?
[19:21] <shadeslayer> ues
[19:21] <shadeslayer> *yes
[19:24] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: ok, I made the change and pushed the branch again.
[19:24] <shadeslayer> okay