LPCIBotYippie, build fixed!02:05
LPCIBotProject windmill build #44: FIXED in 52 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/windmill/44/02:05
wgrantStevenK: It failed to detect the testrunner breakage :(02:13
StevenKWhee, subunit bug02:55
lifeless * 367 Time Outs04:23
wgrantOh, I read the wrong one this morning :(04:25
wgrantI saw 1225 and was pretty disappointed.04:25
wgrantWe had less than 2000 hard OOPSes/timeouts. Not bad.04:26
wgrantAnd about 400 exceptions are fixed by stuff in the deploy queue.04:27
lifelesswe're getting there04:27
StevenKlifeless: Are you happy with the teams progress?05:06
lifelessStevenK: I think we're making fantastic progress on maintenance05:49
lifelessStevenK: recipes are looking awesome, but I think the transition off them has been a little fuzzy05:50
lifelessStevenK: message shared/bug subscriptions seem to be coming along well05:50
lifelessStevenK: and derived distros has only had one week now, so no opinion05:50
LPCIBotProject windmill build #45: FAILURE in 1 hr 10 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/windmill/45/06:23
StevenKlifeless: the transition off recipes has been fuzzy? What do you mean?06:43
* StevenK wonders if he can fetch an SPR by ID using the API06:44
wgrantStevenK: SPRs aren't exposed, so no.06:45
wgrantYou're wanting to check the changelogs?06:45
StevenKJust one or two, yes06:45
wgrantI ran it for a while on DF and it seemed sane there.06:46
wgrantso I've already qa-ok'd it.06:46
StevenKSo on qastaging it looks to be doing around 500 in 15 minutes.06:48
StevenKAnd we have what, 600,000 that are unset?06:49
wgrantI don't recall the number, but that seems plausible.06:49
StevenKWhich means 1200 runs to finish06:49
wgrantOn overloaded asuka.06:50
StevenKYes, we should silence garbo-hourly on Tuesday06:50
StevenKI was thinking when it starts running on production.06:50
StevenK1200/23 is 52, so, almost 2 months?06:51
StevenKAm I doing that right?06:51
wgrantBut !asuka should be faster.06:51
wgrantAt least a bit.06:51
wgrantBut we're still only running at 25% of what I had initially planned, so it's going to take a while.06:52
StevenKI don't restrict the archive?06:52
wgrantIt is only running for 15 minutes out of every 60.06:52
StevenKAh well.06:52
StevenKAnd garbo-hourly loses an hour to garbo-nightly doesn't?06:53
StevenKEr, doesn't it06:53
wgrantI'm not sure.06:53
StevenKLFA is exposed, isn't it?06:53
wgrantSome files are exposed, but not LFA itself.06:53
StevenKCan I trivially go from LFA ID to URL?06:54
wgrantIf you know the filename.06:54
StevenKThey're all "changelog"06:54
wgrantEr, qastaging, but yeah.06:55
StevenKlifeless: When you care, "SELECT id, changelog from SourcePackageRelease WHERE id IN (63623, 63624, 63625);" on qastaging06:55
wgrantStevenK: You could also guess.06:56
wgrantAdd an attachment to get an idea of where the IDs are, then search around there.06:56
StevenKThat doesn't sound nearly as much fun as bugging lifeless.06:56
wgrantIt is more fun when it leads to security holes :)06:57
* StevenK ponders when to start on the Poulet Sauté Au Vinaigre06:57
StevenKIt sounds better in French06:58
StevenK"Chicken in Vinegar" doesn't sound very appealing.06:58
StevenKwgrant: Current plan is to average six runs on production and work out length from there.06:59
wgrantStevenK: You might also consider a graph.07:01
wgrantI believe they're pretty easy to add.07:01
lifelessStevenK:   id   | changelog07:01
lifeless 63623 |  6429522407:01
lifeless 63624 |  6429522507:01
lifeless 63625 |  6429522607:01
lifelessStevenK: lfa isn't exposed because lfa is just a join07:03
lifelessfiles don't have standalone existence, you need a containing object07:03
lifelesslike spr, bug, etc07:03
lifelessit would be like exposing message07:03
wgrantlifeless: Uh...07:05
lifelesswgrant: bug07:05
StevenKRight, those 3 look good07:08
StevenKlifeless: And thank you07:09
lifelessde nada07:09
lifelessStevenK: do my answers on team progress vs happiness make sense?07:13
StevenK[17:43] < StevenK> lifeless: the transition off recipes has been fuzzy? What do you mean?07:15
lifelessits dragging on07:29
lifelessat bit07:29
StevenKlifeless: I think that might be a little unfair, since it is the first transition since the move to squads.07:38
wgrantI think it's inevitable.07:39
wgrantFor a feature like that.07:39
StevenKI think transitions need to handled with an iron fist -- finish off anything you have in progress, then pick up criticals07:39
wgrantThat requires completion to be declared at a reasonable point.07:40
wgrantAnd that's difficult.07:40
wgrantI think recipes can be considered delivered, but not done.07:40
lifelessStevenK: I didn't say anyone had done anything wrong07:54
lifelessStevenK: I think its reasonable to assess how we do dispassionately-  haven't dug into causes yet07:54
jmlas far as I'm concerned, recipes aren't delivered as long as they have the beta flag up10:09
wgrantWell, that's a matter of LOSA.10:13
StevenKjml: Isn't that waiting for you to review it again?10:23
LPCIBotProject windmill build #46: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 9 min: https://hudson.wedontsleep.org/job/windmill/46/10:37
m4n1shso in Launchpad API's bug representation "owner_link" is used for "Reported by"19:07
m4n1shor is it represented by some other field. Cant find it19:08
=== almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan
lifelessowner_link, yes19:25
=== al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away

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